NEC Director Larry Kudlow Discusses Economic Impact of Coronavirus…

National Economic Council Director Larry Kudlow discusses what economic options the U.S. government has to mitigate and assist businesses and individuals dealing with the financial impacts of coronavirus.

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Note to Mr. Kudlow: Do not trust Dr. Anthony Fauci.

Fauci is a purposeful panic seller. His goals are not the administrations goals.

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217 Responses to NEC Director Larry Kudlow Discusses Economic Impact of Coronavirus…

  1. I’d like to know internally if they are doing a red team/blue team strategy/tactical response to this or some other tool to inject contrary opinions.

    We can all end up on the road to Abilene otherwise.

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  2. Questioning says:

    Well…. if Fauci has been at this for 40 years, with a significant amount of that time spent in positions of authority in government, why was the system found to be so inadequate? So inadequate that a public/private consortium has revamped, from top to bottom, a screening/testing system in a few weeks?

    How many people are we going to let these ‘experts’ kill to prove their point?

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  3. California Joe says:

    Wrong! Fauci said last week that the Kung Flu outbreak would die off once the warm weather arrives. China had only 10 new cases on Saturday and just over 3,000 deaths total out of 1.5 billion people…chain smokers in the most air polluted country in the world. Why did Fauci talk about hundreds of thousands of Americans dying because of this flu yesterday? He’s not supposed to add to the Democrats and news media hysteria!

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  4. cheryl says:

    He said this virus was 10 times more lethal than the flu. Sounds like selling panic to me.

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    • Tiffthis says:

      Cheryl, if the flu has a death rate of .1, then multiply it by 10 and get 1.0% death rate for corona. I find that Fauci’s faults happen when he leaves too much up for interpretation. He needs to do the simple math for Americans so the news can’t spin it. (Btw- I’m not implying that you can’t do math 😇)

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    • Tl Howard says:

      I’ve been reading science blogs for years and they were sounding the panic long before I heard of Fauci. 1) NO IMMUNITY to a virus that we know very little about 2) Mobile world population 3) Lies from the nation that knew the most about it 4) a world unprepared for an actual pandemic 4) first world nations with large, large populations of seniors

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    • jeffsn4 says:

      He was referring to the fatality rate of 0.1% for the flu and 1.0% for this.

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  5. kb says:

    I’m not downplaying this health scare, I do think the number infected will be in the hundreds of thousands but I hope the death toll remains extremely low. But the biggest threat as of this minute is a major recession. Yes the economy was a solid footing but this situation is actually shutting businesses down for an extended period of time. The administration better throw it’s entire might behind fortune 500 companies, small businesses and the general population to attack the thought of a recession head on.

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    • Tl Howard says:

      Our best hope is that the virus has mutated to a less virulent strain than the strain that first attacked people in Wuhan, but Americans MUST understand that ANY respiratory virus is ALWAYS dangerous and it’s especially dangerous when the numbers of people it strikes overwhelms our medical facilities.

      The numbers scare the researchers and policy makers because this virus spread (is simply MORE CONTAGIOUS) to more folks than the “regular flus” we often see. Data from other nations show that most folks hospitalized for it WILL survive but ONLY if they are able to get that treatment. They won’t be able to if their numbers overwhelm the system.

      I’m sick of folks not understanding that that is the MAIN difference between it and the “other flus.” THE NUMBERS and the MEDICAL SYSTems IN PLACE.

      If a teacher has one or two acting out kids in a class, order can be maintained. IF 20% do so, chaos is the result, esp. if there is no place to isolate and “treat” those troublemakers.

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      • L4grasshopper says:

        Who says that the strain in Wuhan is any different from now?

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        • I’m afraid that the reality is that this is a common-cold virus. Cases typically run just like colds do. A very small number of people, mostly compromised already, develop more serious cases. We haven’t been tracking this virus until recently so we really don’t know how many cases there are which are “un-confirmed.” But there’s nothing in this virus which actually justifies the irrational public response which has been afforded to it. Neither have we afforded any such response to anything at all since polio.

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        • Toenail says:

          L4grasshopper – It is the MSM and you know they always strive for the truth. IMO China, South Korea, and Italy are not good places to compare with the US. Maybe with Chicago.

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        • zekness says:

          https://www.newscientist.com/article/2236544-coronavirus-are-there-two-strains-and-is-one-more-deadly/

          But we can’t say for sure. The study only represents 103 cases. A larger, online database has collated the sequencing results from 166 cases. Both represent a drop in the ocean of the almost 100,000 officially reported cases.

          Jones says we can expect more strains to emerge. Epidemiologists generally agree that, once a person is infected with the coronavirus, they are unlikely to be infected again – unless the virus mutates to allow it to overcome the immune system’s defences.

          This “selection pressure” could lead to the outbreak of a new strain, says Jones. This is the case with seasonal flu – new variants crop up every year that can infect people whether or not they’ve had flu in the past.

          key: the selective pressure in a pandemic outbreak will ALWAYS lead to variants overcome the immune system defences. We see this annually as the “new” flu is capable of infecting all of the former people infected from last year’s strain….

          we should expect that SARS-Cov-2 WILL mutate and efficiently based on what WE KNOW already

          1. it has a long incubation period.
          2. it is a corona virus and it is novel…(humans have not had contact with this virus at any other time…humans therefore have no “memory” to develop an immune response (unlike “seasonal” flu bugs
          3. It is a pandemic. Worldwide…in 49 states in the US and 140 countries worldwide….this means the virus is unlimited in how it will transmit and has the “advantage” of both time in hosts, and a very large number of separate people to develop to new strains.
          4. there is no vaccine…and unlikely to have one developed effectively…the reasons for this are numerous….by the time “A vaccine is developed, this bug will likely have mutated and as such the vacinne will unlikely be effective..good for the “old”…nothing for the new.
          5. asymptomatic transmission is KNOWN…shedding happens before the symptoms are realized. Some people will never feel ill, or they will have confusing mild symptoms that will go unreported (I just got a cold)…so “super-spreaders” in a global pandemic situation means this virus will continue to make the rounds…for a long long time.
          6. old people are generally at highest risk..or those that are immune challenged. when this happens, these people who likely are being cared for by family members, who have to work and travel…will likely be a transmission point…so see grandma and you just got here sick..unwittingly…others visit grandma and then they carry the virus right back home..and the cycle goes round and round.
          7. some people, some states, some countries will refuse to be smart….in fact, a very high number of people just DONT CARE…or are just ignorant and uninformed.
          8. as the global supply chain breaks in a hard way..and it will…desperation will become the new norm. as the economy hits the street…and it will…people will begin to panic…all the restrictions orders will create realized hysteria that will go sideways….people will protest, gather, and paradoxially, the very thing they demand in protest, will cause more disease and spread…compounding the threat…
          9. testing will be ineffective for the same reasons that points above about vaccine will be unrealistic….many people will get a test and decide “I’m good to go”…

          what can change all of this?

          the disease is showing us what WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW to HALT IT.

          stop all travel and social engagements.

          realistic?

          no

          but anyone that is telling you that some balance is possible or that current efforts are going to make a difference….they just have no idea …they are making opinions based on agendas that have zero relation to what this virus is showing what it is capable of doing.

          a balance…..sadly, this is deciding that results in a very high number of people dead.

          I know what I am doing..

          and it certainly isn’t traveling about and getting anywhere close to anyone outside of a very small group that also has decided to self isolate.

          I don’t plan nor do I feel a need to march into the fire.

          this disease is showing us what it is capable of.

          take action.

          hunker down now and decide who you can trust to be around in your immediate vicinity to follow the same precautions….

          hard to do?

          depends on what you value most I suppose.

          do you know what the economy means?

          nothing if you are dead.

          that’s what it means..

          take this virus very seriously…

          the lesson of the initial outbreaks should be very clear…

          do NOT WAIT until you start hearing it made it’s way to your area.

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          • Bo Long says:

            How is C-10 different from, say H1N1, in terms of mutability? Given global population mixing, which was certainly roaring along during the H1N1 epidemic, has H1N1 figured prominently anywhere on the planet since that particular virus ran its course?

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            • zekness says:

              the answer to that question is

              we do KNOW that all corona virus DO mutate…HOWEVER MANY factors determine that “rate” and velocity/trajectory of the mutation. IT IS those factors that have this highest impact on mutation happening….

              I listed some of these main factors above, but I will try and explain as best I can what these factors mean and discuss other factors.

              H1n1 is NOT SAR-Cov-2! It is a very different virus and the disease that it causes even for those that survive it, are vastly different. In addition, the human population has been exposed to h1n1 for a long time…each year for quite some time, including it strains (and there are many strains of it…not just the simplified A and B)

              H1n1 is NOW a seasonal virus endemic (technically it’s a pandemic)…but it has far less killing power in all of it genomic “strains” (there are 19 KNOWN strains of h1n1.)

              Humans have and showed the ability to natural immune to h1n1 after first infection..this is well studied and agreed upon…no KNOWN strains of h1n1 demonstrate a feature that the typical healthy body cannot effectively resist…

              h1n1 because it is seasonal, the virus takes a vacation during the summer/heat.this means that one portion of the hemisphere is always “naturally” protected while the other suffers. This very important factor means “time”…it is the total time in host that introduces risk of mutating to something far more serious. Those short breaks literally means there is much less potential for the virus to mutate in one side of the population to achieve a serious mutation….

              incubation…h1n1 has a much shorter incubation…once infected, you are going to see symptoms rapidly. This means those that are infected are more likely to be isolated from other quicker…reduces the scope of spreading.

              asymptomatic shedding/transmission…h1n1 has a very very low demonstrated observed asymptomatic spreading.

              h1n1 has a very low mortality rate..EVENTUALLY THIS WAS REALIZED AFTER THE FACT and because of very focused effort to isolate and restrict travel/contact…..remember, we had “time” (and still do) wrt h1n1….each summer we can re-establish our efforts and focus very fast with great results to limit spreading. We have opportunity to anticipate….and to prepare in advance…and to develop therapeutics and to treat people….and then relieve the pressure of health care workers, hospitals, and emerging disease researchers and labs….to devote in preparing for the new season.

              there are MANY effective therapeutics for h1n1…and it turns out each of these are designed to treat varying stages of infection and symptoms. this was years or hard work…and billions and billions of research and work.

              one cannot really talk about how one disease compares to another without understand that we are dealing with something very new…and the features it is presenting a very very different…both the science…and obviously to the human body.

              I hope this helps.

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              • Maquis says:

                Sure do help. Also illustrates the massive amount of non-stop intra- and inter-national communication and cooperative effort required to get and try to stay on top of these viri which leads any sane minded soul to condemn the globally inflicted destructiveness of the Chinese Communist Party’s anti-transparency and shameless perfidy.

                Build the next Wall around China.

                GBPDJT
                🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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          • trialbytruth says:

            Panic zekness ? Sounds like you already have. Any reason to believe that this virus unlike any before it can find host in 100% of humans. A symptomatic shedding (please source this) would not be very effective if i am not sneezing coughing or snotting all over the place I am a not a very efficient carrier

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    • ILOT says:

      My concern now is that much of our fate is in the hands of state / local wannabes. We have passed the threshold where there is zero chance of a politician doing “too much” to fight this “global health crisis” while all of them stand in fear of being accused of doing “too little”. I fear folks like Whitmer who is apparently running for VP and what she might do to set herself apart….there are others. The slightest pushback gets you criticized for downplaying it, or worse being a cold hearted capitalist that doesn’t care about elder health. This will get crazier as loons leverage it for their activist agenda….I submit the gun grabbing mayor in Illinois…

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    • The death toll will remain extremely low with the whole world shut down. This thing is going to be over in no time, in some ways thanks to the massive overreaction. But it was far too over-hyped to begin with.

      China has now shut down the last of it’s dozen special hospital set-ups to deal with the virus because there of the very small amount of new cases now being reported. THINK ABOUT IT… In the originating country, where there was no forewarning or preparation, and in a country with a population of 1.44 billion people living in poor environmental conditions, only just over 3,200 people have died from it. That’s 0.000002% of the population – and it now seems to have run it’s course there. So what are the chances it’s going to be any worse than that in countries that have had time to prepare, with cleaner air and water?

      In ALL of North AND South America there are still less than 100 deaths. This thing is going nowhere. I predict more bankruptcies than deaths, due to the panicking to shut down all these businesses and lay off employees.

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      • JohninMK says:

        I can understand your point of view but I pray that it is not misplaced.

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      • buzzybee says:

        Carole, you said some key words that I hope we’ll all remember….. “THINK ABOUT IT”.
        When people are fearful, they do not think well. And our society has been dumbed down by the left for too many years, not just in government schools, but also the fake news media.

        Yes, China is entirely different. I’m reminded that the communist leaders lied to their people. Their government is different and their climate is different (hope the climate alarmists keep that in mind). Their whole society is different. I feel so blessed to live in the USA with the awesome president we currently have.

        That said, I hope the panicking serves to expose the true colors of our enemies. I’m reminded of how some of our enemies danced in the streets over our pain and grief when 9-11 happened. Yes, truly, we need to be THINKING. Having PDJT in office has bought us some time. I pray we make good use of it.

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        • Maquis says:

          Interesting enough, Hong Kong shares many of those characteristics, and a border except they enjoy relative Freedom and many Western derived values and are also a fairly highly disciplined people with significant social cohesion and thusly this has barely slipped their radar as a result.

          Culture Matters.

          GBPDJT
          🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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      • CC says:

        Hospitals will not benefit, as the reimbursements will not cover operating costs, (if there is a patient surge in critical care units).

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        • Carol Joy says:

          Hospitals have overcharged everyone for so long that I doubt they will suffer. However, the average person, forced to stay home out of this total surrender of our government on the Fed, state and County level to abide by curfews and quarantining in place will end up impoverished. (Eighty percent of all renters only have two paychecks by which to get thru any calamity. A month of being quarantined will end their lives, unless Trump imposes charity from landlords for rents, etc.)

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      • zekness says:

        3.7 percent mortality of KNOWN CONFIRMED DEATHS / KNOWN CONFIRMED infections is NOT LOW. It is exceedingly high. ( we will re-visit your 1.44 billion number below)

        china, the epicenter has the benefit (if you assume this JUST ONLY in a narrow view) of effectively locking down 14 million plus people in short order. There are NO other countries that have implemented anything CLOSE to that order. We must also assume there is a very economic and political reason why China may be re-starting the manufacturing segment. They have been radio silent about immunity (the risk of re-infection)….this is RED FLAG. If china would state they scientific data to support the risk of re-infection or that this local pandemic has been somehow miraculously isolated and limited, we would have heard about it. We have not. This relaxation and risk taking is directly related to recovering and mitigating the economic risk of the china one model. We shall see in another month how that plays out. I have my serious doubts they are acting in good faith wrt disease control..more likely they have made a purely economic choice to go forward with a recovery of operations plan knowing many people will likely continue to die in the process..we should be very very concerned about the motives in this latest act. The first act was responsible…this latest act, seems desperate and totally out of whack wrt pandemic control.

        china has a “lead time” somewhere between 5 weeks and 7 weeks in terms of known confirmed cases to any other country outside of mainland asia. So, we would expect given the effectively (albeit draconian approaches), the numbers to drop rapidly….

        the “long tail” will determine who useful the china strategies are. With a serious level of skepticism they will be as transparent…it’s complex..they don’t want to lose business, money and influence…nor do they want to be correctly accused of putting their national china one interest above the health of the world…so expect some very sick messaging and propaganda.

        fortunately…there are some very good covert reporting going on..and some talented hackers who are tearing down some walls to peer inside policy makers and also the official health centers. We will know what is going on…even if the china official policy is to mislead the world about it.

        it’s a strange (yet predictable) debacle we are going to deal with…eventually, as this disease becomes far more serious..and it will..other countries with self interest will attempt to perform the same rhetoric.

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    • bob says:

      If 35% of workers have interrupted work that’s about 60 million people. If we send them each $700 per week that is only 500 billion over 3 months. It’s cheap and highly effective.

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    • vikingmom says:

      The administration is well aware of the potential problems AND knows how to mitigate them. Unfortunately the MSM and the Swamp are working to make sure those steps are NOT implemented! They do not give a damn how many people’s lives, businesses, and retirement savings are destroyed, as long as it benefits them and keeps them out of prison!

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    • Carol Joy says:

      The American public is mostly outraged over this whole takeover of our government by the World Health Org and the Elite that is now underway.

      Of course there is no real discussion of what is going on economically.

      Why would there be? When has the American public ever been offered any truth, small or large truths, regarding such items as the Bay of Tonkin, The Vietnam War, the Iran Contra situation, the Iraq War I, or the Iraq War II? (Remember we were gonna go in and do Shock and Awe and leave, but we are still there. This month we are marking the 26 th year since Shock and Awe March 23 2003 events that began the decimation of that once great nation.)

      And then we had the financial collapse, in which we were assured that the Middle Class Main Street economy should be handed over to the Big Financial Boys, cuz afer all, they know how to manage money and look out for us, right?

      Donald Trump ran with a pledge that if elected he would end the Fed. Instead the Fed just reset its interest rates to Zero, which signals some trade offs going on under the surface that will be most damaging to the American middle and lower classes, and the poor people everywhere in the world.

      One of the things that will be traded off is our health. There is no real way to produce an effective vaccine against the n-corona virus 19, as those watching it from inside their research labs know it is already mutating.

      So by the time someone has a vaccine, that vaccine will offer around 23% protection. (A sugar placebo will give you 26% protection.)

      Once the ineffective vaccine is produced and ready for distribution, Sell Out Trump will allow a vaccine mandate to go into effect. This will immediately transfer some 132 billions of dollars from Big Insurers coffers, and those of county, state and Fed government agencies that back up the Obama Care Exchange programs and programs like MediCare, MediCaid and MediCal. (The math behind this is 330 million warm bodies X $ 400 per jab of ineffective vax material.)

      I notice it is hard to find any discussion regarding how the American public will survive. Most Americans – at least 80 percent of people – live paycheck to paycheck, with maybe only 2 paychecks held in advance of any catastrophe to be serving as a backup. Many people rely on being able to sell things, should they be laid off from work. (Jewelry, electronics, etc.) But if everyone is quarantined, who can you sell to?

      Other governments have already confiscated cash, claiming that it serves as a way for the dread n corona virus to proliferate.

      Illinois and Ohio now have government officials stating that restaurants and bars must be shut down. In the UK, a person over the age of 70 who is found out and about must be fined 1,000 lbs per incident! And now Gov Newsom in Calif is insisting that those over 65 must shelter in place. Give me a break!

      This is totalitarianism. Brought to us by the Average America numbskull letting the TV Fake News people talk us into one weird and unruly calamity after another. All on account of this year seeing a heavy duty flu virus. Which is not even the dread corona. (A mere one to two percent of all very sick people now test positive for the n corona – and since 70 to 80 percent of the test results are inaccurate, it means maybe far fewer people have it.)

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    • trialbytruth says:

      I am anticipating a 5 to 10% infection rate ( typically 10% for flu in the US ). I am assuming that this slowing of transmission may reduce total cases, if the virus becomes less effective in warmer weather. If not I believe it will max out at 10%.

      The princess cruise had a 20% transfer rate in a human petri dish. In the open with our relatively light population density even in our cities transmission rate should never reach more then 10% 35 million people.

      My max bad news scenario is 250,000-300,000 hospitalized (normally I would guess 200,000 but uncle Sam is paying the bill) I’m going to assume a better then flu survival rate because medical attention will exceed anything we have seen before. So worse case scenario 20 to 30 thousand mostly senior mortality.

      I am not a doctor but I like numbers and know more about just about everything than CNN

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  6. theasdgamer says:

    I think that he likes his face on the video screen and maybe hopes to make a buck on a book later.

    If we have a dearth of respirators, ambu bags can be used instead for people with ARDS. They are a pain to use in place of respirators, but they are a backstop. Just have to mobilize med students and retired doctors and nurses.

    I don’t see a problem with hospital beds. More likely a problem with ICU beds. Probably have to ease up on hospital compliance enforcement so that they can do makeshift ICU beds for a time.

    Rural populations are not much at risk.

    Probably there will be more additional deaths from the CYA-induced strain on medical resources than from covid19.

    Coronavirus Derangement Syndrome is a real threat.

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  7. AnotherView says:

    I flat out don’t trust anything out of NIH nor the CDC. Just look at their skewed, politically correct reports and stats. They’re nothing but expensive labs, black holes that suck up billions taxpayer money and produce nothing of value in return. Both should be abolished.

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    • Niagara Frontier says:

      And good luck trying to hold anyone in the senior leadership ranks accountable for mistakes and malfeasance. The penalty for failure at that level is either a lateral reassignment at the same rate of pay, or an offer of early retirement with a good recommendation, i.e. a “clean SF-50”.

      There’s rarely a third option. Trust me, I’ve seen it first hand.

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      • Despicable Me says:

        Sadly, I have to agree with your assessment.

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      • mostlyogauge says:

        Yes, sad but true. No one at any level of gov’t ever gets fired. I’ve seen it first hand too. I’ve spent my career in the private sector in IT. You knew what the rules were and you followed them or you were canned. Yes, there were favorites of the powers that be, but not even close to what I’ve seen in gov’t. I’ve been in my current job in gov’t for over 3 years. I was told during the hiring process that they wanted private sector ways of doing things and thinking, new ideas, yadda yadda. Nope. Not as advertised. I saw someone make a $2 MILLION dollar mistake. Nothing happened.

        I recently read an article where the Air Force finally pulled the plug on a software project that had been going on for years. They spent $4 billion, $7 billion? I don’t remember the number, but it was multiples of BILLIONS. No one was fired, demoted, or anything. What is the incentive for giving a crap? None.

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      • coldanger says:

        There’s always the promotion option. I’ve witnessed that myself…

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      • woodstuff says:

        The penalty for failure is usually a promotion and a pay increase.

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    • grumpyqs says:

      Did you make a typo Another? If you substitute FBI and DOJ for NIH and CDC; your statement still makes good sense!

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      • Toenail says:

        grumpyqs – I don’t see how you can say that. Without the FBI and CIA we might never have avoided things like the Boston bombing, twin towers, and several other incidents oh wait we didn’t avoid them hmmmmm.

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    • realeyecandy1 says:

      I have said from DAY ONE that the CDC needs to be investigated by the Senate OverSight They deliberately have botched this from DAY ONE … you see that big fat arse Litchefield is never at briefings now. He and Fauci have lied and slow walked this to hurt the POTUs

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    • Carol Joy says:

      Most of my friends call the CDC “The Center for Disease Creation.” With good reason.

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  8. Jade says:

    He just contradicts almost everything President Trump says that’s all.

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  9. theasdgamer says:

    We need a blood test for SARS-2 antibodies so that we can make curative vaccines and determine what percent of the population has already been exposed. We’d have to do some random sampling in major metro areas.

    (No, I’m not a doctor nor do I play one on tv.)

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  10. My concern is that this is not truly “the economic impact of Coronavirus,” but the economic impact of irrational and unwarranted responses to Coronavirus.

    Coronaviruses are one of the two families of viruses usually responsible for “the common cold,” and while it was first formally identified a few months ago it’s probably been in circulation for a much longer time. Since we have not been testing for it, and since it usually causes “a cold,” we really don’t know how dangerous it is. It appears, though: “not much.”

    Nevertheless, this virus suddenly turned into headlines. And those headlines turned into irrational and unjustified knee-jerk response.

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    • Exactly right, Mike Robinson. My thought about the whole thing is that there are a lot of people involved with this who really want to take President Trump down. The rest are coming under the spell of herd mentality hysteria.

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    • zekness says:

      here is how to properly tackle both problems

      1. no one can control the irrational of humans….
      2. no one can control the irrational markets.

      one can only control SELF.

      God never intended or designed humans to be inter-dependent on one another for intelligent choices….otherwise, he would have just made one…and only one.

      the exercise of his power to create MANY and give to each the natural right and power to make SELF choices…was by design.

      there is a much deeper meaning of god’s immeasurable mastery of creation …

      I challenge everyone to really consider the implications and the beauty of this design….even if we cannot imagine totally what it really means..we can certainly experience it….as humans..but also truly as agents of god.

      one can only control self.

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    • theasdgamer says:

      Tucker Carlson has to bear some responsibility for the panic, along with the NHS and CDC staff and Trump.

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  11. Bob Lynch says:

    Well, it appears to me that the too big to fail bankers have done it again. Hopefully President Trump will not fall for their fraudulent scam a second time. I would suggest he seize all financial assets held by the big banks and financial institutions as trustee on behalf of the legitimate depositors and immediately arrest any and all of these bankers and confiscate their billions of dollars they have illegally obtained. Their massive fraud is the real crisis in this country. Even Sleepy Joe recognizes that it is time for arrests.

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    • YeahYouRight says:

      Come again?

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    • dottygal says:

      POTUS wants to get rid of the central bank system. Looks like it might happen.

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    • Mike in a Truck says:

      Fauci has become captivated by the cameras lights. Time to make him the Chief Medical Officer on a cruise ship.Silver lining? Pharmaceutical production must return to the U.S. Warehousing kids in Government run public schools is a failed experiment whose only purpose is to indoctrinate them and perpetuate teachers unions.Countries are now realizing PDJT was right- borders mean something. Best of all- Red China is being exposed for the anti-humanity skunks that they are.

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      • Paul Vincent Zecchino says:

        As high school kids in 1972, we knew that Kissinger’s ping-pong diplomacy, the supposed opening of China and beginning of a new era of peace and prosperity was bull. Absolute bull.

        The chicom regime’s official state policy has always been, ‘use capitalism to build communism to destroy the West.’

        Thus far, all’s going swimmingly.

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        • WSB says:

          I still believe that Nixon was forced into this. Nixon’s entire persona was the exact opposite of trusting the Chinese. He barely trusted anyone other than his own mother!

          Rant over.

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      • Olivia Robbins says:

        Summarized and analyzed very well. Agree with you wholeheartedly. Fauci was suspicious to me from the outset. Used words like “failed” when being quizzed by Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Didn’t make any effort to soften or reduce his answers – all superlatives.

        This crisis will bring about a greater good. Red China revealed for the skunks that they are. All of what you said is true.

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  12. calbear84 says:

    Keep in mind that the current bull market run is 11 years old and the longest in history. Taking profits has got to be tempting at this point, politics and manufactured crises aside. We may have a dip in GDP for a quarter or two, but the US economy will come roaring back thanks to PDJT.

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    • jnr2d2 says:

      It’s margin calls !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • zekness says:

        that is some of it yes.

        it is mostly a very real global supply chain of goods crisis…thanks to this virus and the china one model with all the related economic impact that follows…which will take quite a long time to restore even if this virus was to disappear tomorrow.

        the global stock markets are crashing mostly due to a intelligent flight to cash principle….one doesn’t want to tempt fate and deal with a massive liquidity issue….although I could argue we probably are beyond that tipping point.

        maybe this will help people discover gadgets, gizmos, cheap crappy stuff at walmart isn’t necessary to live a full and abundant life.

        maybe….

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  13. Tl Howard says:

    Fauci did say the other day, Friday, I believe, that it would make sense that more rural populations would not need to take the same actions as urban areas. That is common sense.

    Wherever you have high density and mobile people, you have problems. Period.

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  14. maggie0987 says:

    And here is another one to watch –
    https://www.spectator.com.au/2020/03/dr-who/

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  15. UberRight says:

    Newt Gingrich lost me on this. Now he is spreading panic. More big government. Italy is different than USA. Elderly population with high levels of smokers.

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    • Tl Howard says:

      WEll, he was or is in Italy and sees the hospitals overwhelmed. That can tend to wake a person up.

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    • ILOT says:

      Average age of the deceased in Italy is 81. The region where it is most prevalent also has a high concentration of Chinese that have settled in the North for the textile industry. When I sense the “experts” understand Italy, I’ll trust them with developing a state side plan. Until then, I’ll stay vigilant, informed and suspicious. The MIT econ prof that said this event will go down as the single largest market manipulation in history, at minimum has my attention.

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    • Ninja7 says:

      Plus a large Chinese population from Wigan in northern Italy. That flew home for the New Year and came back🤔🤔🤔.
      Strange how that happened.

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      • ILOT says:

        You are precisely right Ninja. Why the heck can’t we get the straight story on all this and your point on the Chinese New Year is spot on. High travel rate = high transfer rate. everything you Don’t want. Italy saw this back in December when we did…if the media did THEIR job all this would pointed out. If Italy took the action PDJT did and were willing to take the hits of being called a xenophobe by the likes of that clown Nadler, where would this be? Instead…our side was sleeping and dreaming of impeachment the whole month of December and January as this took place. Not to mention it was NEVER a topic of questioning during the debates the last 3 MONTHS. Aggravating.

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      • listingstarboard says:

        Why is there such a large outbreak in Iran?

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    • Ninja7 says:

      Hate autocorrect should be Wuhan

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  16. dasantacroce says:

    Here in CT. Governor Lamont says not even to think about leaving!

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  17. YeahYouRight says:

    Couldn’t agree more on Fauci.

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    • Flova says:

      Fauci is an egotistical money grubbing leftist. He backed obama in 2014 when NO quarantine or travel ban was issued during Ebola scare. It was also crickets from him when zero would not issue national emergency order in 2009 until after 1000 Americans were dead 100 of them children. All of a sudden he’s on the shutdown bandwagon.

      Fauci sabotaged Trump during the hearing and is speaking out of three sides of his mouth. He came out with this rhetoric after Rod Rosenstein’s sister was exposed for her relationship to the traitor. She went away and out comes Fauci to take down Trump.

      May God help us because these people are out for total destruction of our way of life. To see DeBlasio and other communists leading their states into misery is demonic.

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  18. maggie0987 says:

    Sorry, should explain a bit! This is about the WHO boss – Director-General, Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus,- not inspiring much confidence?

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  19. California Joe says:

    Dr. Messonnier’s CDC TRANSCRIPT: Reports out of China that looked at more than 70,000 COVID-19 patients found that about 80% of illness had — was mild and people recovered. 15 to 20% developed serious illness. Let’s talk about who those people are. So far it seems like it’s not children. Of the 70,000 cases, only about 2% were in people younger than 19. This seems to be a disease that affects adults. And most seriously older adults. Starting at age 60, there is an increasing risk of disease and the risk increases with age. The highest risk of serious illness and death is in people older than 80 years. People with serious underlying health conditions also are more likely to develop serious outcomes including death. The people who are at greatest risk are those older and who also have serious long-term health conditions like diabetes, heart disease, or lung disease.

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  20. rustybritches says:

    I live in a small community and this morning they said that there is a family here who has the Virus but we shall see I asked the postmaster where they were tested and no one seems to know

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  21. labrat says:

    I have never trusted Fauci, since back in the 80’s with HIV. AZT killed a lot of people.

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  22. L4grasshopper says:

    Fauci should be asked about how the death rate for the flu of .1% is derived, and why that is any comparison to how the death rate for COVID-19 is valid, since the two rates are calculated from completely different denominators — the flu uses the CDC estimate of infected, but the COVID-19 uses only the known, tested infection number.

    The flu death rate from the CDC using the known, tested for the flu number as denominator is 10% — the .1% comes from using the CDC estimated number of 36,000,000.

    At present there is no — and because of lack of data, cannot be — any death rate for COVID-19 using a reliable estimate of infected.

    But based on using the RATE calculated for both using death/tested infected — the flu is 10% and COVID-19 is just 2%.

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    • Sentient says:

      The denominator is a moving target, but so is that number of deceased. Epidemiologists understand this and do their best to take those facts into account in their educated guesses about Case Fatality Rates. The CFR and stats regarding percentages who need intensive care have been remarkably similar from China to Italy.

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      • thedoc00 says:

        The other thing remarkably similar is some of the lower standards of hygiene in heavily populated areas.

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      • ElGato says:

        Perhaps I should start self-identifying as a 28 year old.

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      • Guffman says:

        Did the 14 dead below the age of 50 have pre-existing health issues?… my guess is yes. Perhaps heavy smokers with bad lungs (a lot of those in Italy)?

        The median age of death is 81 for those succumbing to the virus. Mainly old people in poor health with pre-existing conditions. This is no different than the seasonal flu which kills up to 650,000 worldwide per year.

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      • theasdgamer says:

        Not only is the denominator a moving target, but its meaning changes depending on the narrative being pushed.

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    • Sentient says:

      Also, everyone takes hope from the lower CFR in South Korea, but their pool of total infected was unusually young because of that weird church/cult that purposely infected its members – most of whom are in their 20’s. With continued spread, their median age of infected has risen and the CFR is rising accordingly. South Korea’s .6% CFR unfortunately looks like an outlier and a fleeting one.

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    • Bob Lynch says:

      If a person has a severe underlying health problem, becomes infected with the coronavirus, and dies. What is the cause of death? The underlying health problem, or the virus. Which does the doctor list on the death certificate.

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    • trialbytruth says:

      Many likes and thank you L4grasshopper. Numbers are hard for folks and great for Liars . As twain reminded us “three kinds of lies, lies, damn lies, and statistics.

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    • Beverly says:

      EXCELLENT POINT, Grasshopper!

      Also bear in mind, everyone: The Leftwing Media (BIRM) are going to be hysterically proclaiming the “Rising number of cases!” in breathless tones with melodramatic chyrons, as more testing is done.

      But….

      Picture a lake. It has fish in it. Yes, they reproduce, but…. We’ve never fished in it, so we have no idea how many there are. Then a fisherman throws in a hook and catches a trout. Then more fishermen arrive — more hooks: OMG, MORE TROUT!!! the number of trout in the lake is SKYROCKETING!

      Nope. Just more hooks [tests] in the pond.

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  23. TradeBait says:

    So when this is over in the next few weeks, as it will undoubtedly be, will there be anybody raked over the coals and exposed for this insanity? When there is less than 50 K Americans verified as having caught this, a small fraction of a flu outbreak – what will the narrative be?

    Stupid is a stupid does.

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    • Conservative_302 says:

      I agree with you. This panic is stupid. Stock market has gone nuts and all for nothing. It’s like nobody has any faith in God anymore. Looking to man to fix everything is why people are panicking. Earth is not heaven. There is no guarantee down here. Never was and never will be. God is the way.

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      • Ninja7 says:

        Man is on earth, GOD is in Heaven.
        Man plans and GOD laughs 😊🤗🤔

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        • JC1974 says:

          Every time I read Twitter I want to Darth Vader meme “I find your lack of faith disturbing”. Particularly during Lent. Everyone seems to think they are the President, so I suppose it isn’t hard for them to think they are God too.

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          • buzzybee says:

            Nothing new. From the start in Genesis, man was told he could be like God. Typical lie. Amazing how humans are so easily deceived.

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    • Renate says:

      It will be President Trump’s fault, of course.

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  24. Patience says:

    At this rate………….. The future may be going backwards.
    There just may be a whole lot of empty buildings; as working and learning will be done at home via phone and computer. People will travel less; as they did before airplanes. Live entertainment (music, theater, sports, …… Disney type parks, etc) ???

    Neighborhoods may become ‘Mayberry’; neighbors fussy and curious about newcomers.

    >vaudeville and the tented circus

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    • thedoc00 says:

      That IS NOT backwards. That is the path to destruction and total loss of community and allegiance to anything or anybody. That is 100%, the exact opposite of what the USA was. You are utterly wrong about Mayberry as well. “Neighbors” actually knew each other, helped each other and looked out for each other.

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      • buzzybee says:

        Yes, thedocoo. We do not live in the same society as in the days of Mayberry. It’s a nice little Utopian type dream though. But actually, last time I thought about it, Mayberry was just a Hollywood set. What was life actually like for the audience WATCHING Mayberry?
        And compare that to today, with technology so different, etc.

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      • Dixie says:

        Thank you for the common sense, thedocoo. This thread had gone off the rails.

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  25. JohnCasper says:

    “Note to Mr. Kudlow: Do not trust Dr. Anthony Fauci. Fauci is a purposeful panic seller. His goals are not the administrations goals.”

    The Holy Corono Virus (Anthony Fauci, High Priest and Ayatollah) belief system:
    1) All roads start with Corono Virus.
    2) All roads end with Corono Virus.
    3) The Sun revolves around the Corono Virus.
    4) The Moon revolves around the Corono Virus.
    5) The Stars revolve around the Corono Virus.
    6) If all the earth’s inhabitants do not surrender all their rights to Big Brother are not immediately put in solitary confinement, the ying and the yang of the Earth will become profoundly unbalanced and all remaining Corono Viruses in the entire Universe, C19 thru C1000000 will hit the Earth and we will all die a countless number of agonizing deaths.

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  26. Roger Duroid says:

    If that fauci makes any more public speeches or appears on any news shows, Pence should be removed for continuing to allow it. How can PDJT allow this fear mongering sob to continue to promote his media hyped stories? We COULD all be killed by an asteroid next week. There is more danger from the continued leakage of radiation into the Pacific ocean from Fukushima than this virus.

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    • Sentient says:

      That’s a great idea. Not. Get everybody in a total panic because politicians are muzzling the scientists.

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      • buzzybee says:

        I thought we were all going to die from climate change. Then along comes this virus to save us from that worry. But then there’s the radiation from cell phone use, etc. Then again a panicked and stampeding crowd can also do the trick if one is in the wrong place at the wrong time (like a mosh pit at a concert or something).

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    • John Bosley says:

      Ah yes Fukushima , the silent killer.
      Now that there is one clustersuck and it ain’t over till the fat lady sings.
      Half life can be a beotch.

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    • IGiveUp says:

      ” How can PDJT allow this fear mongering sob to continue to promote his media hyped stories? ”

      It boggles the mind. This happens over and over. Someone in a position of authority in the Trump admin. tries to destroy it from the inside. I guess since nobody gets prosecuted or goes to jail for anything there’s no real fear of being caught. Whatever.

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  27. Mike in a Truck says:

    Somebody help me out.Im not the brightest bulb on the dash. ISIS has warned its Jihadists not to go to Europe. Jihadist: “I go to Europe, blow myself up, kill many infidels.” But you can catch the Chinese bat flu. Jihadist: “I do not want to die”.

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    • buzzybee says:

      Mike, here is my understanding; Jihadists believe that if they kill infidels, they will end up in paradise. They cannot kill infidels thru suicide bombs if they are already dead from a virus. It isn’t that they don’t want to die. They just don’t want to die from a virus, without opportunity to kill infidels.

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    • GB Bari says:

      Yeah I was scratching my head too.

      The only answer I could think of, is that the jihadists that are being told this aren’t the poor schmucks who wear the “vests”. OR, that the jihadists need to stay healthy longer to plot and plan their final task. Or some combination of the above.

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  28. joeknuckles says:

    We need a placebo vaccine to quell the hysteria.

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  29. Bo Long says:

    I am seeing a growing legion of people online describing what has been dubbed rather generically “not the flue/worse than a cold,” and many of the reports go back to early December. Many Chinese citizens are saying that this virus actually became known in the grapevine in early November, so there was ample opportunity for it to travel from China far and wide.
    I too had this unusual “not a flu/worse than cold” in early January about a week after travelling on 3 airplanes to get home from New York. It caught my notice because of its tenacity but never felt life threatening – dry, hacking cough, bronchial pneumonia, a couple of days of light fever. It was not a bed-slammer like the flue can be, but it was a bit of a tussle. I treated it with Coricidin, humidifier with “On/Guard” essential oil on it, vitamin C, and vitaminD3. After two weeks of that I started to develop “six-pack abs” from all the coughing and at times tempestuous sneezing fits. LOL. Took about 2 weeks to quit coughing with another week of tapering little coughs. This is the exact MO heard often online in comments sections, and everybody thought it had an unusual “personality.”
    I never felt compelled to visit a doctor, and since this was just before the Wuhan thing really got going in the media, I did not make a connection to C-19 at the time.
    I am 66 years old, in reasonably good health and eat right.

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    • FL_GUY says:

      This has been my experience too with people I know. I didn’t get it but I know a few people who did, none spring chickens and they are still alive and kicking. If people knew it’s been here for months and they’ve already been exposed to it and have lived to tell the tale, this manufactured panic would grind to a halt.

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    • highdezertgator says:

      Ditto that… early Feb…4 planes.. two airports.. 2 nights in Vegas… Chinese in LV everywhere! For me..worst “cold” in years…dry hacking for 2 weeks… Wuhan Cough Pao

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    • Chris Maurer says:

      6 pack abs from sneezing and coughing. Yay! I pay 60 bucks a month for gym membership and have been chasing that 6 pack for months lol.

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    • dawg says:

      exact same thing happened to my 69 year old mom about the exact same time

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      • JohninMK says:

        Really strange. I am 74 and in England, not traveled overseas, but I had exactly the same symptoms at the same time. Worst cough I ever had, really deep almost uncontrollable and muscle straining.

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    • jebg46 says:

      I had the same thing right afterChristmas and Italian month to feel better.

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    • Interesting, now that you and others mention it here, I went through something notable and similar earlier this year too. I didn’t really get sick, as I used to (I’m 72 now), but I had to fight something that got past my outer defenses into my stomach (so it was notably quick to get in, I remember thinking at the time) for about a week. I just took more echinacea (with goldenseal) — more frequently, as I felt the need, not as the instructions on the bottle said (I know me better than they do) — and drank diluted Bragg’s apple cider vinegar as I felt the need for it, and I kept up using the chili powder (with garlic powder) and hot sauce in tiny doses in my mouth, and was careful what I ate. In about a week, it gave up and my body went back to normal — I never developed a fever, or coughing spells (I keep my nose and throat clean), or felt really sick; it kept knocking and I kept denying it a foothold.

      If it was this virus, there should have been a nationwide epidemic of “tough, quick flu, or cold” at the time. I don’t get sick, so I don’t follow these things.

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    • paper doll says:

      This is what happened to me in January…but exactly

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  30. FL_GUY says:

    From personal observation and with people I know, I think that this virus has been here at least since December back before it had a label. I know several people who had the worst case of flu they ever had but got over it; it was more intense than usual and took a bit longer to get over but they got over it just doing what you normally do for the flu.

    This is all a big scam and exercise in psychological warfare, IMHO. Just look how primarily d-rat politicians are using it as an excuse to become dictators which if not stopped, will destroy the economy. If people knew the virus has been operating here since at least Dec, and maybe even Nov, they would put two and two together and realize they are being fed a line of crap because they’ve likely already been exposed to it and either didn’t get sick or got it and got over it, just like the flu.

    I think it is very telling that last fall, I read where Bill “the moron” Gates sponsored an exercise with a scenario about this very virus creating a “pandemic”. Either he’s psychic (snowball’s chance in hell) or someone is playing dangerous games with this country and perhaps the world. The moslems in Europe have killed more people than this so-called killer virus.

    I was born before vaccines and treatments existed for most communicable diseases. Every year, there were the polio epidemics. Every winter, people died of pneumonia, diptheria, scarlet fever, etc. The list was extensive, there was no treatment and guess what, humanity survived.

    This entire fiasco reminds me of a Twilight Zone episode where a group of extra-terrestrials land near a neighborhood and began messing with the people by manipulating the power grid; turning it on and off selectively to various houses. They had people violently turning on other people. At the end, you see the aliens outside their ship operating a control panel and commenting on how easy it was to manipulate earthlings. IMHO, that is what is happening now. Sad.

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    • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

      “This entire fiasco reminds me of a Twilight Zone episode…”

      Here you go, titled The Monsters are Due on Maple Street.

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    • swissik says:

      You have your viewpoint, I have mine. I am taking this virus seriously as does my family. Many years ago I read a book titles “Emerging Viruses”. Don’t have it anymore but I remember it was prescient and extremely worrisome. There are scientists who believe that this 19 virus is suspect inasmuch as they have suspicions it may be a concoction of up to four different viruses and produced for biological warfare.

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  31. joeknuckles says:

    I find myself in a very irritable mood today. Tired of all the BS, business is dead, so nothing to occupy my time with. To top it off, I can’t even go workout because the damn gym is closed. Cold and raining out, too.

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    • Landslide says:

      I hear ya. I think many Americans are in the same, frustrated frame of mind. We are resourceful, though. And creative. So much to be thankful for, too. Personally, we have 100’s of small projects/chores we can do around our house. We also are taking pleasure in simple things like taking a drive, watching the deer outside, facetiming with relatives, and making a food challenge to see how far we can stretch it! Reading more books, watching movies, etc. Ultimately, God is our strength.👍🏻🙏🏼🇺🇸

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      • Dixie says:

        Books…..books…..thank God I’ve got books. Takes my mind off all the bad stuff. Check out “Where the Crawdads Sing”. Fabulous riveting book.

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    • Skippy says:

      Not sleeping well either!

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    • You are too young; try some good morning, sunshine…

      “You and me and rain on the roof,
      caught up in a summer shower,
      maybe we’ll be caught for hours —
      waiting out the Sun.”

      The 60s was THE BEST decade for good music.

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    • WSB says:

      Joe, do you have stairs or a yard to run around the house? If so, get out, get wet and get dirty…get cleaned up and straighten out those five drawers that are a mess!!!!!

      Or you could always hep SD with research!!!!!!

      ❤️ Me

      😎

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      • joeknuckles says:

        I have very bad knees and a wore out hip, but I can still tear it up at the gym with the low impact cardio machines (elyptical) and the weight machines. I’m actually in very good shape, especially considering that probably need multiple joint replacements.
        I find it really helps with relieving stress and keeping a positive outlook, too.
        I’m going to have to figure something out, the gym is closed until at least April 7th and now I can’t even do much business for a while, either.

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        • WSB says:

          Can you press with the dog? Or maybe do some heavy lifting with a garage cleanout or cinder blocks?!

          Keep it positive, Joe! There are innovative ways coming your way!

          God bless you, Joe!

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          • joeknuckles says:

            I have 2 little dogs, so I guess I could use them like dumbells. They are about 25lbs each, so that could work. I’m not sure how they’re gonna feel about it, though.

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            • WSB says:

              HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

              Joe, I am in stitches!!!!

              I am literally in tears, and we are not supposed to touch our faces. Kleenex to the rescue!!!

              OK, I want video or pictures of the doggie-dumbells!!!

              We must do our best to endorse the CoronaCounterMeasures…and two patriotic 25 lb dogies gonna do it for the team!!!!

              Carry on!!!!

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            • WSB says:

              Joe, I’m still dyin’ here!!!!!

              HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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  32. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    Wonder what Kudlow thinks about this? Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) is calling for the federal government to issue a $1,000 check “to each American” to help offset the cost of dealing with the coronavirus. Make that every working person and senior citizen; not every man, woman, and child.
    The feds can turn around and take the money from the upcoming increased tariffs on Chinese products. Do it for like two months until this China Flu mania fades away. If city and state governments can shut down private enterprises willy-nilly then something needs to be done to offset citizen losses and a payroll tax break isn’t it.

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  33. Just Beachy says:

    One of the very first press conferences was telling: Before anything much had been said we got the question: Is Dr. Fauci being muzzled? This was foreshadowing. Maybe the MSM got ahead of their talking points.

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    • This is their (the Insane Left’s) chance to rehabilitate themselves, in the minds of very low information voters (their base), just in time for the election. Meanwhile, I have to put up with criminals vying for the highest positions in the country. We do not have a legitimate federal government (and, of course, that goes for lots of state governments too).

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  34. Will says:

    San Francisco Bay Area just locked down 6.7 million people in 6 counties. Full Commie!

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/local-politics/article/Bay-Area-must-shelter-in-place-Only-15135014.php

    Six Bay Area counties are expected to announce a “shelter in place” order for all residents on Monday, directing everyone to stay inside their homes and away from others as much as possible for the next three weeks as public health officials desperately try to curb the rapid spread of coronavirus across the region.

    County authorities were expected to announce the move at 1 p.m. and gave a draft of the order to media outlets to prepare. The Chronicle is reporting the story after a television station published the news early.

    The directive begins at 12:01 a.m. Tuesday and involves San Francisco, Santa Clara, San Mateo, Marin, Contra Costa and Alameda counties — a combined population of more than 6.7 million. It is to stay in place until at least April 7.

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    • swissik says:

      I live in Santa Clara Cty. and we have currently the highest number of corona cases in the bay area. We probably also have the highest number of business travellers flying all over the world, especially to Asia. There might be a connection to the number of cases.

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  35. There are 2 things causing the hysteria. Shortages at the supermarket, like bathroom tissue, and the collapse of the stock market. I am convinced the problems with shortages will be solve by Easter. The Stock Market may not recover till after the Election this Fall. There may be a housing slump this Summer. If President Trump is re-elected the Economy will recover by early next year. How bad of a economic down turn there will be is unknown. It is likely we will have a negative 1st quarter for the GDP.

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    • muckeyduck says:

      I know from stories my parents told when times were hard, and from watching films about the great depression, that people were consumed with simply putting food on the table. “We didn’t know where our next meal was coming from”, we’ve heard people of that time to say.

      I don’t recall seeing even one film clip, not do I believe I ever heard a first person account of someone saying, “we did not know how we were going to wipe out butts”.

      Back during Great Depression, I don’t sense that figuring what you would going to do with the outgoing, was nearly as important as how you were going to get the incoming.

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  36. JohninMK says:

    One of the effects of the reactions around the World is the very rapid grounding of airline fleets. Most major European airlines now only have 25% or less of their fleets in the air. Many are putting their staff on unpaid leave, Virgin for 8 weeks.

    This will not affect only passengers as, along with luggage, under the passengers feet there is almost always large amounts of cargo and especially perishable goods. Taking the UK as an example, most of Scotland’s exports of salmon fly out of Heathrow, whilst most of the out of season fruit and vegetables (like beans from Kenya and asparagus from Mexico) fly in. As these aircraft with their marginal cost freight rates stop flying so will those producers lose their markets and income as many, if not most won’t be able to absorb the cost of 100% air freighters.

    If you enjoy Atlantic salmon, fresh or smoked, it might pay you to pop a little in your freezer as the main producers are Norway and Scotland and both are an air flight away from their largest markets.

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    • Beverly says:

      Millions of tons of food will go to waste with the restaurants being forced to close for no damn reason. Hardest hit: everyone in that business, and the farmers who supply them.

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  37. I will write yet again, personal responsibility is the real key:

    conservative treehouse

    Relying on “modern medicine” for everything has made us all less able to fend off infections. I used to have to rely on a 10-day dosing of penicillin (later amoxicillin) every 12 to 18 months, until I studied what might keep me from getting sick, regardless of infection (bacterial or viral). And I found it, as I’ve written. Kill the little boogers in the back of your mouth, at the first, least sign of unease (and this is where “know thyself” comes directly into play). ALL of the “experts” and “leaders” who are not making individual responsibility the key, and giving the information to help them monitor and treat themselves, are FAR from competent. And people’s reliance on vaccines — going back to the success of Salk (polio, in the 1940s), and Pasteur long before him — is NOT healthy, in the final analysis (as the comments about new outbreaks every year, even after vaccination, should warn people).

    Bottom line: A virus is not Superman, vulnerable only, or even predominantly, to a “Kryptonite” vaccine. It has natural — not man-made — enemies, the most potent being those that can kill it at the point of infection, before it can get “in the door”.

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    • Skippy says:

      Nice post, Mr. D Huffman!

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    • WSB says:

      Not sure I know what this means,”Kill the little boogers in the back of your mouth, at the first, least sign of unease (and this is where “know thyself” comes directly into play).”

      I do not keep penicillin. I do know when my throat has a ‘hollow’ feeling to it or when my ears start ‘popping’, so I load up on Zinc, C, all vitamins and hit the mattress for 24 hours. Is this what you mean?

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  38. Doug Amos says:

    In PA 10% of 7000 tested were positive; no deaths. Over at the stock market, 90% are positive and only 10% will survive the mountain of debt. The world is no place for dreamers.

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  39. candyman says:

    Thanks for the Bay Area update.
    “People who are homeless are exempt from the order but encouraged to find shelter.”
    Are the illegals exempt also? If not, its racist… I know they all have a Get out of Jail card. /sarc

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  40. Magabear says:

    As with 9/11 and any other national emergency (real or not), the least patriotic people are the wall street wheelers and dealers. Hey, let’s F the economy while we’re dealing with, most likely, a minor flu situation. You people suck.

    I’m sure the short sellers are licking their chops at making great gains tomorrow. Why this kind of nonsense is even allowed is beyond me. They should’ve just shut the market down today.

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  41. Pokey says:

    Bankrupting every small business in our country will never help to solve this problem. Where are the most insidious problems with diseases? In countries that have pitiful economies that cannot support their people. We are trying to turn our country into a third world hell hole( as they say ) just to keep a few people from dying of a particularly fast moving virus? I don’t think we are doing many things right here and the reasons are easy to see when we look at our political climate and watch our media perform like marionettes.

    Oops. I hear the wooden body cart coming up my street. Got to go now.

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  42. Davenh says:

    I found this article to be interesting and informative. I’m certainly no medical professional but I believe this is the most likely scenario we are looking at. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8076395/Leading-doctor-claims-coronavirus-isnt-deadly-feared-death-rate-1.html

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  43. CNN_sucks says:

    How much are these globalists plot to overtake, control the stock market and starve small investors of their 401k?

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  44. cherokeepeople says:

    PT needs to either institute the uptick rule as they have in europe or shut down the stock market,as we can’t have groups of more then 10 people.just basically freeze the market til further notice.

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  45. Risa says:

    If the elderly and others with health vulnerabilities are the major at-risk group, with it being mild for younger, healthier people, why not just quarantine that group? Why are we destroying our economy for everyone’s when we could simply inconvenience a smaller group?

    I am in the 60+ group and I would gladly sit in my home and allow this to blow over. The pain this is inflicting on younger people is heart-breaking.

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  46. theasdgamer says:

    The title should read, “Larry Kudlow discusses…economic impact of Coronavirus Derangement Syndrome.”

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  47. theasdgamer says:

    We need some academic studies showing the expected impact of the CDS actions on overall health care…200,000 more deaths, etc.

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