FBI's Three Favorite Narrative Engineers Update Background Status of IG Report…

When former FBI ‘small group’ members Andrew McCabe, James Baker, Mike Kortan, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page were working on their political operation to protect Hillary Clinton and remove Donald Trump they had three specific journalists (narrative engineers) atop their speed dials.

Texts, emails, and documents released over the past three years showed that whenever the small group wanted to leak they preferred: Devlin Barrett, Robert Costa and Matt Zapotosky at the Washington Post.  [Example – source, pg 5]
So when we see Barrett, Costa and Zapotosky getting the gang back together to write about the upcoming IG report, it is worth reviewing their carefully engineered narrative. [All emphasis mine]

(Via Washington Post) Justice Department officials are trying to release in the coming weeks a potentially explosive inspector general report about the FBI’s investigation into President Trump’s 2016 campaign, according to multiple people familiar with the effort.

Interesting start to the expository: “trying to release“; the implication here is somewhat of an internal struggle between two opposing forces.  Those who are defending the deep state, and by extension the small group, and those attempting sunlight.

Of course the customary anonymous disclaimer “people familiar with the effort”, relates to those inside the FBI/DOJ who are still working earnestly to carry on the corrupt endeavor. Unfortunately it is not a surprise that FBI Director Chris Wray and AG Bill Barr have not removed the career resistance operatives inside the institutions.

[…] One person involved in the discussions said the target date for the report’s release has been Nov. 20, but another indicated that the Justice Department is unlikely to deliver it by then and that it is more likely to come after Thanksgiving because of the complicated and contentious mix of legal, classification and political issues at play.

Where “complicated and contentious” is again representative of the internal dynamic between those who are hell bent on covering-up the corruption, and those who are less inclined.   Those who want the full disinfecting distribution want a faster release; those who want the diluted version, prefer delay.

[…] The report’s findings will mark a major public test of Attorney General William P. Barr’s credibility, given his past suggestions of significant problems with the investigative decisions made by former FBI leaders involved in the case.

Whereby if AG Bill Barr allows the toxic scale of the group’s activity to be diluted, then he will be “credible” to the institution.  However, if Barr supports an aggressive report, which outlines the full scale of corruption, then he is “less credible” to those who cherish the institutions.  All of the sources for this WaPo expository are, as you would expect, career members of the institutional preservation effort.

[…] The findings by Inspector General Michael Horowitz also will set the stage for the separate but related investigation led by U.S. Attorney John Durham, who is investigating how U.S. intelligence agencies pursued allegations that Russian agents might have conspired with Trump associates during the 2016 campaign. Officials have recently said that investigation is pursuing potential crimes.

Despite the Mueller report stating conclusively that no Americans participated with any Russian interest to actively influence the 2016 election, the Washington Post must keep the resistance narrative. Hence: “might have conspired”..   Apparently the conduct being criminal in scope remains a concern for the usurping agents.

[…] Barr has spent weeks working on the declassification decisions, as Horowitz scrutinized large volumes of classified information to assess how the FBI launched and pursued the investigation and related cases, people familiar with the matter said. Like others, they spoke on the condition of anonymity because the report is not yet public.

Again, anonymous leakers inside the current DOJ and FBI apparatus.  This ongoing process of members of the intelligence community leaking to the media should simply be recognition that Barr and Wray have changed little within the environment.  If there was concern, there would be no leaking.  There is no concern.

But a number of key figures in the probe have yet to receive draft sections of the inspector general’s findings, suggesting that the public release is still at least a week away, according to people familiar with the matter. It is possible, too, that as draft language of the report is shared with different people, the entire process could become bogged down by disputes about the accuracy of certain passages.

This paragraph is interesting.  Aside from our previous predictions of how the internal battle would evidence by how the ‘executive summary’ is written; the small group members have not yet received their “Principal Review” segments.
This is specifically Comey, McCabe, Baker, Strzok, Page, Yates, Rosenstein and McCord speaking to the Washington Post.   Those officials would likely be recipients of the report specific to their conduct.  Apparently the principal review has not taken place.

[…] Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, plans to meet Wednesday with Barr to talk about the report’s planned rollout, according to people familiar with the matter. The inspector general’s work is independent of the attorney general, but in this case, the two must work closely on the release because the inspector general does not have the authority to declassify information. Barr does. Horowitz is not expected to attend the meeting with Graham, these people said.

Interesting projection here from within the small group in that they view any discussions between Bill Barr and politicians as a “planned rollout”.   The rolling out of a specific narrative is exactly the process the small group used when they engaged with their media co-conspirators for the Russia Collusion narrative.

[…]  Current and former law enforcement officials have said the Russia investigation began in late July 2016 with an examination of George Papadopoulos, a Trump campaign adviser whose statements and behavior raised suspicions among diplomats and intelligence officials. After Trump fired FBI Director James B. Comey in May 2017, the Russia investigation was handed over to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, who filed a lengthy two-volume report of his conclusions earlier this year, deciding there was no proof of a conspiracy between Trump associates and the Kremlin, and declining to reach a conclusion about whether the president obstructed justice. Barr examined Mueller’s evidence and concluded he had not.

The small group is sticking to their origination date of July 31st for “Crossfire Hurricane” and they are informing all fellow participants to stick to that date.

[…]  The current and former officials insist the investigation was handled correctly and carefully, and argue it would have been a dereliction of duty on their part not to investigate alarming allegations that members of a presidential campaign were conspiring with a foreign power. (read full article)

The engineers almost said by the book, but realized it might not be a good catch-phrase all things considered.  Again, it’s interesting to pause and consider who was defining the crazy investigative predicate as “alarming allegations”?… when you consider they affirm all of the predicate surrounds George Papadopoulos (here’s where the Mifsud aspect is so key).
If Mifsud is a western intelligence asset, everything about the origination of crossfire hurricane is an extinction level event for the claims of the CIA, FBI and DOJ participants.
Keep in mind, a few days AFTER the Mueller team used the Papadopoulos mistake of wrongfully remembering the date of first contact with Mifsud to charge him with a 1001 violation of lying to investigators; and therein specifically identifying Mifsud as a Russian operative attempting to influence Papadopoulos; the same Joseph Mifsud is pictured (October 21st, 2017) hanging out with Boris Johnson & other officials in London.

If Mifsud, the Russian operative, was such a danger, why was he innocuously hanging out with western politicians without a care in the world? ….

Joseph Mifsud (left), Boris Johnson (center), Prasenjit Kumar (right)

Joseph Mifsud is the Maltese Fulcrum !

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224 Responses to FBI's Three Favorite Narrative Engineers Update Background Status of IG Report…

  1. Elric VIII says:

    All of this media spin is making me dizzy. Attorney General Barr said that he would “Let the chips fall as they may.” Good enough for me, as long as the entire truth comes out. And there are some very big chips placed on certain bets. Our Republic is at stake.

    • Michael Kunz says:

      The Maltese Fulcrum, indeed! Excellent.

      • Patrick Healy says:

        Indeed Michael,
        It comes as no surprise to see Boris Johson pictured above with the other spies.
        I have been saying for ages that he is not a friend of your great President and will stab him in the back as he is one of the New World Order gangsters.
        If he were anything other we would be out of the satanic EU by now.

        • Maquis says:

          Damn straight! No Deal is the best deal! A No Deal Brexit would also see an immediate Trump Deal that would bless Britian greatly. Corbyn may be the Devil himserlf, but that doesn’t mean Boris has to dance with him. Bollocks!

        • Tom says:

          A descendant of Charles II, a big customer of the Rothschilds – what can be expected of such genes?

    • The Demon Slick says:

      Long as they’re not cow chips.

    • Pyrthroes says:

      Our sentiments exactly. How Sundance manages to parse this stuff without committing to a rehab center is a cosmic mystery.

      • Sugarhillhardrock says:

        Pyr,
        Sundance has been unrelentingly dogged and sleuthful.
        I know he is deeply skeptical that the truth will out, and he has history on his side. Still, we have an AG that openly discusses the root causes for our societal rot, and appears to be a traditional classical thinker.
        We know what PDJT thinks and that he has resolved it should never happen again.
        The track record of this great President causes me to have faith that he means it.

        • Doug Amos says:

          3 years ago we were watching football; now we watch Sundance. He has brought us a long way; amazing what sunlight can do to a pack of rats.

          • Dekester says:

            Amos, that is the truth.
            TCTH and its posters are infinitely more entertaining than anything to do with Sport or Entertainment.
            Never mind the mind blowing education that one gets.
            God bless PDJT

        • When the wolf is at your door, you can’t waste time bemoaning your sins in allowing it to happen; you have to deal with the wolf at your door first. When Barr talks about “the root causes for our societal rot”, he is avoiding the immediate problem, and that is fatal to a good outcome, for anyone other than the wolves.

          • Jederman says:

            It reminds me of the old saying …if you want to save the world, start with yourself… .
            I agree, Barr pontificates about societal rot (writ large) while he is surrounded by immediate institutional rot, that he is (ostensively) in charge of.

        • bullseye500yards says:

          Thank God that president Trump has such a STRONG back, he certainly needs it to carry the burden that has been placed upon him.

      • Sundance gets beamed up to the starship Voyager from time-to-time to get his brain cells regenerated and then beamed down again.

    • Zimbalistjunior says:

      This article is also a message to Schiff and Co to speed up the impeachment scam and have it really rolling by thanksgiving. So they can spin the Horowitz report as attempt to counteract impeachment or some such nonsense.

      • History, and everything I have seen, says everyone, including Barr, is working hard to delay the IG report to GIVE them all the time they need. The report will probably come out, metaphorically speaking, in the dead of night and while the public is entirely focused on its daily concerns — say the weekend before Christmas.

    • vml9000 says:

      Not real certain about Barr being with us anymore since he praise Chris Wray to the hilt last week or so!

      • Yippeekiyay says:

        That concerns me too, vml9000.

      • harleeryder says:

        Maybe he’s using one of Trump’s ploys, remember Trump speaking highly of and praising both Kim and Xi while negotiating with them? Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

      • Bob Parker says:

        The time is fast approaching where we will indeed find out if AG Barr is either Mr AG Good Barr or AG FuBar(r).
        We pray for the former & pray against the latter.
        A Nation trembles while we await the final verdict based upon both AG Barr & Prosecutor Durham actions, findings, & end-game.

    • swal106 says:

      I have a near zero confidence in ANY of the Federal DOJ. You cannot tell me that every one of these people involved on both sides of this issue, which are all close friends will seek prosecution of the others. ZERO confidence. Total corruption…

    • fhb says:

      the impeachment INQUIRY was always a sop to hollywood.liberals and the squad: schiff now wants an ethics complaint against HIS OWN STAFF (?)…sounds like THE excuse for a “no finding of prosecutable offenses” and must close up shop…especially since he screwed the pooch on opening day with his PARODY . nance only moved forward after message sent via the death of Mrs. Clyburn. also her son would have been and probably will be caught up in the net. bidens and staff expendable

  2. evergreen says:

    Barrett, Zapotosky, Costa. Thought momentarily that I was reading about Zaphod Beeblebrox.
    Those were some out-there scripts, but this whole saga is something altogether improbable. I guess it just had to happen that way.

  3. hokkoda says:

    If the principles have not yet reviewed the IG Report, it is because Durham is using it in the grand jury or questioning of these people. There have been reports to the effect that Durham is using the report as a roadmap. Why on earth would you show the roadmap to the targets of the investigation? You wouldn’t, hence the delays.
    If the report rubber stamped the small group’s story, it would have been released by now. If the FISA documents were legal, it would have been released by now. If none of the principals were referred for prosecution, they would have seen it, and it would have been released by now.
    Whatever Horowitz concluded is exceptionally grave. There are no leaks possible that would allow the small group and the media to spin the report as old news. Otherwise we’d have seem preemptive leaks by now. Anything they leak of substance would be altogether bad, so mum’s the word, and the keep saying the same things over and over like broken records in the WaPost.
    This doesn’t feel Iike infighting over messaging. It feels like bad news is coming. Maybe in parallel with indictments. Politically, that gives Barr and Durham the most cover and the strongest hand to say their investigation is a-political.

    • gda53 says:

      You make a lot of sense.
      I do recall a discussion that if the IG Report was released too soon we would know the whitewash was in effect. I think it was Joe DiG who was concerned about that happening.
      The fact(?) that none(?) of the principals have seen their relevant ‘draft sections’ of the Report YET is, IMO, ominous news for them.
      And good news for us.
      Midnight raids for everyone! Alert CNN.

      • Tl Howard says:

        Yes, Joe Di said weeks and weeks ago that the longer it took Barr to release, the more it meant Durham was doing his thing.

        • wightmanfarm says:

          Or the longer the Deep state has to cover “stuff”.

        • Mr e-man says:

          “Those who want the full disinfecting distribution want a faster release; those who want the diluted version, prefer delay.”
          So these delays have been going on for months. Per the article, that would indicate a more diluted version.

          • WRB says:

            You are basing your conclusion on a wapo article? Experience tells us not to do that.
            Here is a better (my) conclusion:
            The IG report will be very long, with little redactions, and will conclude that the FISAs were illegally obtained.

      • littleanniefannie says:

        Don’t alert CNDNC, send crews to record Mr. Zucker (or Sucker). He should have a taste of his own medicine. Don’t know what time he normally goes to work but the raid on his bedroom should be 4 hours prior to his normal work time! Might send a crew for Rachel Madcow too. Especially if there are arrest raids for Mr. Brennan and Mr. Clapper!

    • Newt Love says:

      US Atty Durham is on the inside. He’s already seen the raw IG Horowitz report, before the classified redactions are made. It’s too late for our opponents. The fight for what is released to the public is irrelevant to the wheels of justice that are grinding everything in their path with a voracious maw.

      • Durham might be on the inside, but AG Barr controls the door for him to come out. The more SD infers AG Barr is more interested in protecting the institutions than in exposing corruption, the more discouraged I become. SAD

        • We the people know says:

          Will the Truth, the whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth destroy the institutions or save them?

          • Green Bucket says:

            Either way, all of these institutions need to be burned to the ground and NOT started over! They have been corrupt from the beginning and they must not be allowed to regroup and do this to us again!!

          • Ernie Hemway says:

            The wise discern the destruction has already taken place. Choose and live accordingly.

        • steph_gray says:

          Sundance’s implications on AG Barr have stuck to the facts, as they should. He does indeed tend to the cynical, but has not rendered a definitive final opinion yet that I can see.
          And in this case yes, I do believe, along with Joe D, that time is on our side and Durham’s. Many thanks to all the patient treepers here. We need all the patience we can muster.
          Also, what a great job of annotating this article! We not only get the great real-world analysis, but we get the wit along with it. Puts a zing in my covfefe.

          • DV Meca says:

            Sundance doesn’t just analyze these issues. His opinion and tone can actually influence outcomes. If Sundance’s attitude was more optimistic and positive towards Barr right now, there would be less pressure on Barr to do what is right. Conversely, Sundance being skeptical and somewhat critical of Barr makes it clear that Barr cannot expect it to slide if he compromises on justice in order to protect institutions (or for any other reason).
            Even if someone in Sundance’s position thought Barr was PROBABLY going to do the right thing, the correct move would STILL be to hold Barr’s feet to the fire. After all, the stakes are massive and any influence in the right direction is immensely valuable.

    • Boots says:

      Maybe in parallel with indictments.
      ——–
      Oh please, not this fantasy again.

      • hokkoda says:

        I’m a cynic about the government, and with good reason. I expect, and have said so many times, the Government Party to sweep those under the rug. That way they can get back to the true purpose of government: impeaching Trump and then turning their sights on regular citizens.
        It is entirely possible that they release the IG Report, having gutted its contents, and that the DOJ “declines to prosecute” any referrals. And that Durham is silent, nothing to see here. All entirely possible.
        But the unprecedented radio-silence is not something the Government Party does. Before the last report, about Comey breaking the law by leaking his memos, we knew the “news” before the report came out. The basic conclusions were preemptively leaked to diffuse the impact.
        That’s not happening here, which is, in a word, unusual.

        • wightmanfarm says:

          They are, right now, busy setting up “FBI training sessions” to educate all agents on what they shouldn’t do. Then when the report drops (in “two weeks”) they can say, “Oh my, this was very bad but we have already taken corrective measures to ensure that this never happens again.” This “problem” has been fixed.
          See how this works ?

          • Zippy says:

            “See how this works ?”
            Exactly. “Better, modified training”:
            FISA Court Rolls Over, Plays Dead
            Aug 28, 2013
            https://www.forbes.com/sites/jennifergranick/2013/08/28/fisa-court-rolls-over-plays-dead/#2b26114763ae
            A newly declassified opinion shows FISA court “oversight” in the face of egregious, unconstitutional and potentially criminal government misconduct means nothing.
            Last week, thanks to the Electronic Frontier Foundation’s excellent FOIA work, we got the gift of a newly declassified 2011 FISA court opinion. The opinion finds that the government misled the FISA court for over three years about the details of its illegal and unconstitutional surveillance programs. These lies hid from the court the fact that every year, the NSA is collecting at least 56,000 emails – and possibly many more — between innocent Americans who have no foreign connections and are suspected of no crimes.
            That’s bad, but the worst part of it is, when the government’s lies were finally exposed the FISA court demanded … that NSA analysts read our private messages right away, so they can be used or deleted more quickly. In other words, the government got not a slap on the wrist, but a pat on the back.
            This was the third lie in less than three years that the FISA court had learned about. The judge described one such pattern of lying in Footnote 14 of this newly declassified opinion. There, the clearly outraged judge said the NSA had misrepresented so frequently and systematically how it conducted its program to collect and query Americans’ phone call records that the agency had utterly subverted the Court-mandated oversight regime for that program.
            So in the face of illegal, unconstitutional and potentially criminal conduct — conduct about which the NSA repeatedly lied to the FISA court — the FISA court “corrected” the problem by requiring … banner warnings that something might be an MCT, and an extra round of review by NSA analysts. The real problem – that the NSA regularly collects Americans’ most private communications that the law does not permit it to collect and lies about it to the FISA court – was simply waved away.

            • Doppler says:

              “At least 56,000 – possibly many more” Should be “every email (and other digital communication sent over the internet, at least 56,000 emails of which belonging to Americans, were illegally looked at.”
              “Read them and destroy them faster,” shows abject technical ignorance by the court, either fostered by the government, or clung to by the judge, too intimidated to demand that this global total surveillance system be destroyed in keeping with the 4th Amendment.

            • lolli says:

              Zippy,
              What do you think of Barr’s Precrime unit? I see this as a federal red flag law. Makes all the spying on citizens legal based on thought crime.
              I am trying to get some feedback on this. It seems a big deal, but being ignored.
              Any positive you can see, I appreciate it.
              There are various sites with articles. I just grabbed one for a link.
              https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/33885-ag-bill-barr-quietly-reveals-plan-to-establish-federal-pre-crime-unit

          • hokkoda says:

            I worked in government for a long time, about 20 years, trust me…I know.

    • chuckyschmucky says:

      Yep — no news is bad news for the corrupt cabal.

    • covfefe999 says:

      If the principles have not yet reviewed the IG Report
      There were multiple reports from October that the report was already in the review process. So I think Sundance is correct, there’s a struggle going on. Not surprising considering the subject of the report, FISA abuse. Big stuff.

      • hokkoda says:

        But I also remember people like Brennan seemed truly clueless about the report’s contents. It’s quite possible that certain people were not permitted to review…because they had yet to be questioned. So, for example, they give Horowitz one answer about Mifsud/PapaD, but the blackberry tells a different story, and they want to question the principals before they all get a chance to try and get their story straight. That’s why they’re fixated on 31 July 16 for the investigation…they have to keep their story straight. And you don’t want to give them a chance to see what Horowitz reports because you do want to see if they change important details.
        On top of this is the normal agency infighting trying to protect their equities. Especially the FBI. Can you imagine if we learn the FBI falsified evidence, and that this was orchestrated at the highest levels of the Bureau? They’re looking at a ripple effect across thousands of cases stretching back years. Anything remotely political that was touched by Comey/McCabe/Strzok is now tainted. Not just Trump-related matters. Everything. So I can see why FBI would fight it.
        Not saying they’re right, only that what is alleged is so serious that nobody will ever trust the FBI ever again, especially Republicans/conservatives. Their sources can dry up. People just refuse to talk at all. Everyone assumes every prosecution is actually a persecution.

        • steph_gray says:

          Can you imagine if we learn the FBI falsified evidence, and that this was orchestrated at the highest levels of the Bureau?
          There’s no if about it. Sidney Powell has proven it conclusively in her briefs in the Flynn case.
          And yes, you are correct, it is monumental and the Deep State is terrified to have it come out.
          But, in Yoda-speak: Come out, it will.
          Those chips are a-goin’ to be fallin’!

          • hokkoda says:

            She hasn’t proven it until she gets the materials in question. Until those materials are released, we can speculate, and we can draw inferences, but we do not have proof. We just don’t. Hence the “even if” statement by the Government attorney…there is not direct evidence only conjecture. Maybe she even has leaked versions and is using them. But until the government discloses, this is all an assumption we are making.
            Yes, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck… But we do not yet physically have the evidence in hand imho.

          • owtolunch says:

            Wouldn’t be the first time…. Look at Flight 800 — plane that went down off Long Island…. hundreds of witnesses saw a rocket hit the plane but the 302 narratives didn’t mention much of what was reported…. the official narrative became “the fuel tank blew up” anything other than that was rejected… … they went so far as to have Sandia Labs find a way to make a fuel tank blow up so they could use that as a “scientific reason” no matter how remote…they had quite a time trying to get a fuel tank to blow up… it took lots of tries…over and over and over……

        • Green Bucket says:

          If they tell the truth the ripple effect will be real and have serious consequences. However, the consequence of doing nothing will be the loss of the republic. It’s not even a hard decision, the truth must prevail.
          None of the alphabet agencies in our current government can be trusted, and in my opinion they will never be trusted again. They need to be shut down and all participants held to account. For the good of America!

        • Donzo says:

          “Everyone assumes every prosecution is actually a persecution.”
          Great line. Perfectly sums up exactly what our Deep State – parallel government is doing to undermine our Constitution and freedom-loving way of life. Kudos to you, hokkoda.

  4. Harry says:

    BREAKING NEWS: FBI director Wray is renting new space for FBI training center which will be required after IG report. He will include picture of the new training facility when he will testify to congress about upcoming IG report. So he is fully supporting the probe and taking it seriously.
    You got the point.

  5. Uncle Max says:

    Great write-up. I just finished a hour ( plus ) listening to interview on YT of Lee Smith by the Epoch Times. I don’t have the book yet. I highly recommend this interview. IDK if someone else has yet. My takeaway… and Lee’s… we’re still in the middle of a coup… it’s ongoing. Good, sober, stuff.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvkmJsTk9RQ

    • Raptors2020 says:

      Uncle Max:
      Perhaps more a great schism than a coup? The Virginia State election results make clear the Centre-Left Globalist elitist planners for America and the world are only irritated by Trump, not dissuaded. The future can only be a steady march to socialism and central planning. Capitalists like Trump remain evil and ignorant.
      The 2020 election will be the next watershed in the plot to wait Trump out. Note Miss Lindsey’s announced intention to hold the Judiciary Committee Chairmanship until 2021, presumably doing little or nothing, then turn it over to Grassley.
      Chicago just had a ceremonial strike from their teachers. The new Mayor told the truth, that they can’t afford to give their teachers a raise; they had a per forma two-week strike, then they got their raise. This perfidy will continue until the money truly runs out, as Margaret Thatcher foretold it always does, then perhaps capitalists, like Trump, who can create a budget, and stick to it, will become indispensable.
      A bump in the interest paid on government debt would be more of a revolutionary event than the election of any politician. The current fantasy on the Left that debt doesn’t matter would be shattered into a million pieces by running headlong into the reality of compound interest, good and hard.

      • Except that when they run out of “their” money, they start taking more of ours.

      • snellvillebob says:

        I would like to see these commie teachers lose their pensions and high pay with the phrase: “You did not earn that”.

      • Jederman says:

        “…The future can only be a steady march to socialism and central planning.”
        Yet all our anger and frustration is focused on the errand boys like the McCabes, Brennans, obamas, clinton’s… instead of identifying, and targeting the “center.” Whoever and or whatever that center may be.

  6. Jase says:

    An optimist might conclude that Comey, McCabe et al may not have received the sections pertaining to them because those sections proved very fertile for Durham and his team.
    The same optimist might also conclude that the report release is delayed and Barr doesn’ want to tip off the coup plotters as to what Durham may have, because the indictments will be announced at the same time the report is handed down.
    Well, its a nice thought.

  7. Sharon says:

    They are completely despicable.

  8. intercesser says:

    I have minimal confidence in Horowitz and the IG . I suspect that we will be looking at a wishy washy watered down consensus product. The only thing that really matters is testimony given under oath. The corrupt usual suspects in government are using their favorite outlets in the media to advance their agenda. But now we can see through the propaganda. These recent revelations about ABC News covering up for Jeffrey Epstein and his cronies once again emphasize for the American people that all of these elitists insiders are covering for each other and working together. It becomes more and more obvious, to more and more people, that these corrupt elitist insiders think we’re just a bunch of gullible fools . If James Comey, and John Brennan, and James Clapper, and Andrew McCabe , and all the rest of them cannot use the media to deceptively manipulate public opinion, then they are finished. All they ever really had were lies and deception and manipulation and propaganda. They never had any facts on their side , or any truth on their side . And eventually somebody’s going to decide that they just don’t want to end up like Jeffrey Epstein .

    • GP says:

      Please don’t let Lucy (NOT referring to SD) convince you she won’t pull the football again. NO ONE IS GOING TO JAIL. These IG report delays are intentional. And all the ‘moral high ground talk lately from Barr is just to set the stage, for “we must never let this happen again”
      When the smoke clears and every last drop of ad rev can be wrung from SpyGate this is what we will be told:
      1-Some good people with good intentions did some questionable, perhaps unethical things
      2-We must make sure this never happens again
      3-Accordingly, we will hire endless contractors, paid for by YOU, to conduct training sessions
      Now for the good of the country, it’s time to move on

      • Rob says:

        Followed by indictments of anyone supportive of President Trump, as the country cannot allow hatred to prevail.
        I hope this will not be the case.

    • Zippy says:

      “It becomes more and more obvious, to more and more people, that these corrupt elitist insiders think we’re just a bunch of gullible fools.”
      We here are not, but a large percentage of those surrounding us and VOTING are. The IQ bell curve alone guarantees that. Our “educational” system (never teaching CRITICAL THOUGHT) and the leftist swamp lapdog media then greatly exacerbates the problem.
      That’s how SLIME like these SpyGate and UkraineGate perps have been able to get us where we are today and get away with what they have in the past. It is an eternal problem against which the Founders designed our government, long since compromised.
      “A Republic, if you can keep it.” We haven’t.

  9. Zorro says:

    Are the leaks entirely from the “small group” who are now outsiders, entirely from insiders still employed at DOJ/FBI, or a combination? Doesn’t the narrative of “conflict” mean there is some good news coming?

  10. Retired IG says:

    Thank you Sundance and Hokkada. So forking sick of the Washington Post (Bezos) “reporting.” ALL HEARSAY. And Lindsey Graham, GET OVER YOURSELF. So sick of his posturing. He just loves the TV camera on himself too much for my liking. No Lindsey, DON”T NEED YOUR VIEWs. CAN READ THE REPORT WITH MY OWN EYES.
    That the Post wrote the IG is “trying to release” the report, and that the “principals” (how the hell would the WP know) of the report haven’t received their chance to comment TAKES THE CAKE TO AN ALL TIME HIGH OF UTTER STUPIDITY. So many unsubstantiated and unattributed assumptions. Morons all. What are they doing? Writing a headline for Rachael Maddow’s histrionic “reporting?”
    Horowitz to his credit, has run a REALLY TIGHT SHIP. Everything the “press” writes is PURE CONJECTURE.
    All I know is that when an audit has findings that are referred for criminal investigations, it might take YEARS for any of us to know the outcome of them. Period.
    Surely, Bezos and his WP (once a great newspaper) can rest assured Horowitz will most likely NOT be naming them as unindicted coconspirators to this whole coup against the President of the United States. In my dreams. But they ARE.

    • littleanniefannie says:

      Like the Covington kids. WaPo tried to railroad those kids for personal and corporate gain. The kids deserve a piece of the WaPo pie. After all, people feel that athletes deserve to be paid for college athletics. The Covington kids are way more entitled to advertising money from WaPo than athletes getting paid to play.

      • askmeanythinginthelight says:

        Little A/F. So right. The !msm and certain politicians could have gotten those kids seriously hurt orworse. I often keep them iin my thoughts..

  11. Newt Love says:

    The real start date was before (staff work time) but officially when CIA Director Brennan sent his EC to Comey.

    • Maquis says:

      Yet conceived much earlier with Obama approval, mostly to defend against the discovery of unprecedented(TM) corruption.

  12. JohnCasper says:

    My own view is that the FBI and CIA are being used as a dumping ground by a superior civilization, to get rid of the most criminally insane among them. I can’t prove it, but no one can disprove it either and the circumstantial evidence is truly overwhelming.

  13. WSB says:

    Can someone remind me why Lindsey Graham is reviewing this? Because this is only the IG report?

    • The Demon Slick says:

      Lindsey Graham is this seasons Brutus. Hopefully Barr is prepared for an adversary using an ally’s words. Whatever Graham wants, no matter how innocent it seems don’t commit to it.

    • WRB says:

      LG will call the IG to testify, and he wants to firm up the schedule.

      • WSB says:

        Well, let’s hope. Wonder if it will do anything?
        Nothing can really be said until the report is out. And then the DOJ acts.

  14. mr.piddles says:

    I find it hilarious to think of Comey and the Coup Crew sitting around, fidgeting nervously, waiting for their draft copies, while Durham is off in Italy eating Tortellini and collecting Blackberry’s.

  15. Greg says:

    The aim is to impeach Trump before Horowitz reports

    • oldfiredude says:

      The President has NOTHING TO LOOSE, declassify EVERYTHING! He was trying to demonstrate fairness by allowing Barr to declassify as needed. Now he needs to release every text, email, document if the entire sick show! This includes the Ukraine, The Wiener Laptop, Clinton Foundation, everything! Don’t just sit there and be cooked by the lying ass Dems! Show the world the depth and breadth of the corruption of the USG!

      • Rob says:

        Declassifying something does not guarantee it’s release. Somebody with access to it must release it. The president does not have physical access to anything.

      • steph_gray says:

        Ristvan has made the case that the declassification is for Durham’s benefit. The first stage is not for the public.
        The declassified material will appear as part of the trial records.
        It’s important to keep in mind that the chunk of the country that needs to be persuaded to the truth of the coup (de-brainwashed of years of yellowstream lies) would not be predisposed to look at and understand/believe an overnight declassified dump.
        However, when that same information is evidence in a trial, it will have the weight it needs.
        If that does not happen and for any reason Barr and Durham don’t follow through, that’s when a wholesale declassification might become an option.
        But the President has a far better option right now. I believe that’s why he is keeping his powder dry for the moment.

  16. armie says:

    Just preparing the battlefield, and trying to install their owns rules before the first shot’s fired. The administration needs to be very careful to fight the battle on its own terms.

  17. Mark says:

    Barr received the draft report from Horowitz Fox News reported September 13. What exactly is taking so long that Senator Grassley has to comment on the fact that he thinks it’s being covered up. I have zero confidence in Barr or Durham at this point. These institutions are so corrupt they will never be reformed.

    • bulwarker says:

      Their goal is to outlast the Trump administration with delays and obfuscation. The president must shoulder the blame for his appointments, and he’s made several very bad choices based on RINO, Bushite and Never-Trumper recommendations.
      I have no doubt the IG report will be a whitewash and the criminal investigation will fail to net any major players (if anyone).
      It all comes down to 2020, and Trump given a second chance to put real reformers in these positions.

  18. mg says:

    Lindsey is as deep state as you can get.

  19. Merkin Muffley says:

    I strongly suspect that Lawfare is handling all representation of the Coup Plotters, including their selective leaks to the press. “Multiple people familiar with the effort” could easily apply to them.

    • steph_gray says:

      Very astute! You are probably right.
      Slowly but surely the Lawfare group, who always intended to operate entirely in the shadows of the DeepState, will be among those exposed to harsh and cleansing sunlight by this entire debacle.
      They have stuck their necks out into chopping position now.

  20. historicus says:

    Rosenstein seems to have received immunity

  21. Despicable Me says:

    What even your average bear understands to be “leaks” is probably viewed by the leaking participants themselves as just drinking pal banter or pillow talk. Unfortunately for the drinking pals and mere lovers (but fortunately for those of us who revere truth and accountability and take a dim view of leaking), they don’t possess any privilege against compelled testimony as spouses, attorneys, clergy and members of the media do. These people are navigating the various legal privileges…..who can I tell without being required to testify at some point. It’s why they all have the same attorneys.

  22. beach lover says:

    So, let me get this straight. The IG will give the findings individually to each of the small group, with a chance for them to correct or dispute? I assume this is a process that can not be litigated if it should only take a few days. Also, waiting until the last minute tells me it has to be coordinated with Durham.
    I am encouraged that the Post doesn’t seem to have insider information on this one. I also can’t help but wonder if Barr doesn’t realize that the stakes are getting pretty big with the impeachment now thrown in the mix. The Dems are showing their flop sweat.

    • Each major player is entitled to see the report, and to write a rebuttal which will be added to the report – possibly accompanied by the IG Office’s subsequent rebuttal to that. They can also suggest, but not demand, that certain materials should or should not be classified.
      So, if the report was “about you,” you won’t be blindsided by reading about it for the first time in the morning papers.

      • Marina Sapir says:

        This rule got to be created within the government. And the only purpose of this rule is to defend current and former higher ups within the government against any control.

        • L4grasshopper says:

          Wrong.
          An IG Report is an internal investigation of government operations. It is NOT a criminal investigation. It’s primary purpose is to review actions and policies of government organizations and personnel about how they are doing their jobs.
          As such, any employee noted in the Report for improper, unethical, or even illegal behavior in course of doing their jobs has a RIGHT to know what the IG claims he found because, by definition, it might impact their employment. So they get a say in this internal inspection process.

  23. Bubby says:

    Sundance your analytical, legal, and wordsmithing skills are extraordinary, a marvel to me. You have been blessed with these gifts from the Almighty! Reading this blog I feel I’m in the very presence of someone far more gifted than I ever was and it is a joy! If I had read that Washington Post article I wouldn’t have understood very little of the workings of the FBI’s small group and their msm “speed dial” so called “journalists”! Again thank you!

  24. I’m pretty happy if the coup plotters are continuing to listen to Lawfare, because so far their legal advice has been horrible, and yet they keep the plotters motivated and engaged … which causes them to make even more stupid mistakes.
    The IG’s report is going to be damning and some portion of it is going to be classified, and although I would wish that AG Barr would simply order the whole thing declassified I’m pretty sure he won’t do that. (And, perhaps, shouldn’t.) It needs to drive and to now initiate positive recriminating actions: an actual investigation by Sens. Graham and Grassley, and of course the unsealing of indictments by Durham. Enough time has now passed for these people to have done a thorough job. Let the games begin.

    • dwpender says:

      Mike — Do you REALLY believe there are any sealed indictments of consequence? In the alternative (or, in addition), do you believe any indictments of consequence are coming anytime soon (say, by the end of the year)?

  25. MLK says:

    A few comments.
    * “Texts, emails, and documents released over the past three years showed that whenever the small group wanted to leak they preferred: Devlin Barrett, Robert Costa and Matt Zapotosky at the Washington Post.”
    Yes, this joint authorship is a signal in and of itself. After all, in any normal circumstance a reputable newspaper would have long ago removed these reporters and assigned new ones. It indicates that the WP is maintaining closed ranks until the bitter end. I’ve frequently mentioned weakness masquerading as strength. That’s possibly the case here but we can be sure until after the fact because what alternative would the WP have? Imagine how all hell would have broken loose at any point up until now if the editors had removed one or all of these reporters per proper protocol?
    * A really obvious dog that isn’t barking is the complete absence of the names of any of the subjects of the IG Report and Barr/Durham investigation. There are no attributions whatsoever of any actions on the part of any of them. Comey is the only one mentioned, and only as having been fired (Poor Thing!) by terrible, awful Trump followed by this doozy:
    “After Trump fired FBI Director James B. Comey in May 2017, the Russia investigation was handed over to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III . . . ”
    Yeah, that’s it, it was “handed over!”
    Again, that weakness/strength thingie, the WP is constrained because if it were to mention any of them, at least at this point it would have to indicate it sought out their comment (and they declined).
    * Think about that last point, it makes this reporting the very opposite of what any journalist was taught about basic journalistic practices, or any reputable American newspaper, let alone a prestige one like the WP, would do to protect or reacquire its credibility.
    Therefore, this article strikes me as having rather limited, though essential objectives. Most importantly as to Horowitz/Barr/Durham timing. The importance of which cannot be overstated in the context of impeachment. I noted in 2018, that they needed Mueller to go last. Barr put paid to that. The current impeachment fiasco is their substitute leverage, such as it is. In other words, I’m not convinced that Horowitz/Barr/Durham “roll out” delays are a bad sign. Perhaps quite the opposite in that it’s much preferred that Schiff/Pelosi have to pull the impeachment trigger first — and their clock is running down fast, Horowitz/Barr/Durham not so much.
    Dollars to donuts, the IG Report doesn’t drop until the first days of December, with Barr/Durham announcing indictments on the 4th or 5th. That would put Pelosi in the untenable position of somehow having to delay for a month.

    • wightmanfarm says:

      “Two more weeks”

    • MLK says:

      The following likely explains MSNBC/CNN alluding last night to a bribery impeachment article:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=330&v=99cj1NJEQGE
      Key takeaway from Rand Paul: “No court in the land will let there be a trial of President Trump without allowing him to confront his accusers.”
      Consider at this moment where we are in the most general terms. House Democrats are under enormous and increasing by the day pressure to fish or cut bait. But it’s problematical, to say the least, for them to send a report to Nadler/Judiciary until Horowitz/Barr/Durham go public
      Republicans have made it clear they will litigate over the House Democrats tainted impeachment process BEFORE passage of Articles of Impeachment, let alone a Senate trial. Republicans are signaling a constitutional Due Process challenge the moment Schiff/Intelligence transmits to Nadler/Judiciary.
      That will make Pelosi et. al. wholly responsible for dragging the Supreme Court into this mess. Make no mistake, the entirety of the Court, especially the liberal wing, will be none to pleased. It will put the Court in an untenable position of either breaking along partisan lines before a Senate trial or putting chief Justice Roberts in a position where he might have to recuse from pressing over a Senate trial.

    • WRB says:

      I do not like your guess (you are correct) that we do not see the IG report until December, but you are one smart poster!

  26. Marina Sapir says:

    In other words, the report is (may be) coming “in two weeks, on Friday”. The leaks entirely consistent and predictable.
    Again, there is the “narrative” about a war of good vs evil in DOJ. But why shall we believe one part of the “narrative” and not another? May be, DOJ is totally unified in their desire to postpone or avoid the release of any report. May be, the goal of the leaks is to pacify Trump and his supporters. Is it possible?
    There got to be a change coming around Christmas. Either the report will appear (unlikely, in my pessimistic view), or they will say that the report can not be released in election year to avoid interference.
    This will be a major defeat for Trump. But I do not expect him even to acknowledge it, let alone fight back.

    • wightmanfarm says:

      It’s been “two more weeks” for at least 3 months.

      • Marina Sapir says:

        Exactly. There is no surprises here. So, what do these regular identical leaks signal?
        It seems, they serve as a source of hope for Republicans. And, probably, this is their goal: to keep us hoping.

      • dwpender says:

        Remember when this long-awaited, much ballyhooed IG Report was “expected” in May or early June?
        I recall Maria B’s first Sunday show in June, where she began with words to the effect that “we all anxiously await IG Horowitz’s Report on FISA abuse, which is expected any day now.”
        Let’s not forget that President Trump ordered substantial declassification in September, 2018 (14 months ago!), but reversed course in days, saying that Horowitz “had agreed” to review these materials “on an expedited basis.”

    • sDee says:

      “This will be a major defeat for Trump. But I do not expect him even to acknowledge it, let alone fight back.”
      This is our last chance. Donald Trump has laid it our feet.
      Your scenario would be our defeat, not President’s Trump’s.
      It would signal our sacred duty to remove the traitors, or, to resign ourselves, our children and our grandchildren to an illusion of liberty under global tyranny.

      • Marina Sapir says:

        Our government serves our government first. DOJ defends our government. IC is used to preserve our government. It was like this at least since FBI was created.
        Now, Americans go against government. And government defends itself against Americans.
        We still can hope for the Trump’s second term. He may get stronger if he wins.

  27. TradeBait says:

    Here’s how it works in the club.
    “It’s inappropriate for the president to be talking with foreign governments about investigating his political opponents, but impeachment would be a mistake. An election, which is just around the corner, is the right way to decide who should be president. Impeachment has never removed a president. It will only divide the country further.”
    That is retiring RINO Senator Lamar Alexander’s pertinent response to my email to support PDT relating to the impeachment circus. I will not address the obvious errors in that one statement. However, this is a clear plan of action for Senators of his kind. Being a Never Trumper, he still plans to vote against impeachment if a “trial” happens if there is no real evidence of whatever the left comes up with as he obviously believes the American public will vote PDT out in 2020. Sen. Alexander is as clueless and wrong as he has always been and will be replaced in 2020 by a true conservative, MAGA businessman who is a PDT supporter.
    I point this out as it is indicative of what is happening within the DOJ/FBI and the administration relating to the IG report. They are in a politicization war over what will be released. That activity alone confirms the guilt of the respective parties. At this stage I am asking the Lord to make them as the arrogant, prideful pagans as in the Tower of Babel story. I expect nothing good to happen to restore our faith in America, yet, strangely still hope that it will. Whatever happens I will use to teach life lessons to family and friends.

    • Zorro says:

      But it’s apparently completely appropriate for the Deep State to be investigating their political opponents. Good riddens Senator.

    • Jederman says:

      The quote, your first sentence, is a prime example of Lefty narrative and perception management. The fact that biden is running for prezzy is merely a related fact.
      There is corruption and there is the CS server as the real interest of the WH. Biden’s vain third attempt at the presidency is incidental. In addition, anyone with common sense knows intuitively that biden would be crushed by PT anywhere, any time. With or without additional corruption pinned on slow joe.
      I reject the constant tweaking of the narrative conjurers.

  28. ale81inn says:

    Wray and others at the FBI, just like Mueller and Comey before him, are in some sense accidental players in this drama. By this I mean that although they are willing participants in the fraud, their motives are more rooted in the protection of their beloved institution: the Bureau. The FBI has been unconstitutional from it’s inception, but no one cares to belabor this point any more. Want a look into the sick minds and motivations of the these Bureau spooks? Ford Wenty has got the dirt: part 1 from 2018, http://ale81inn.com/2018/04/22/the-unvarnished-truth-about-the-mueller-investigation-beware-when-axolotls-frolic/ , and part 2 update from Oct. 25, 2019, http://ale81inn.com/2019/10/25/agent-muellers-last-ride/

  29. Tess from Philly says:

    Does Horowitz have to give his report to its subjects if they’ve already left their government positions? Is the protocol on DOJ IG reports written down anywhere that all can see?

    • Marina Sapir says:

      It is a practical joke on Trump’s followers. Current DOJ is. We are told Barr is our savior, but he can not make a step without an approval of former heads of the Department.

      • Tess from Philly says:

        I understand your frustration. But my question is why does everyone think the Lawfare attorneys are going to have the courtesy of being able to review the report simply because their clients are starring in it. I see online the IG process for lots of other government agencies, but not the DOJ. None of the other agencies show (defendant) attorney review as part of the process before issuing the report. Is it expected simply because it’s a courtesy that’s always been extended or is it a procedure written in stone in the employee handbook?

        • Marina Sapir says:

          This is very interesting.
          If this is not a standard procedure for other departments, it just confirms that Barr is a figurehead. Former heads of the department still have all the power there.
          They do not declare the rule explicitly to avoid exactly the comparison you made.

          • Tess from Philly says:

            I don’t see it as confirmation. First, it may well be formal DOJ procedure to have an attorney review. I can’t find it written down either way. In any case, it’s clear that there’s been a precedent of attorney review prior to this present boondoggle.

            • Marina Sapir says:

              “It may well be formal DOJ procedure”? If this is, I would, definitely, want to know what the rule is, when it was established, by whom, why, and if there are such formal procedures in other departments. Those are your questions, and it is very interesting that there is no ready answers. Nobody cares to explain. As if, whatever government does, is not our business.

    • dwpender says:

      Regardless of what DOJ Rules may say, or practice may be, it would NOT be a defense to any indictment to say “hey, the DOJ failed to tell me in advance that a not yet released IG Report criticized my behavior and made a criminal referral.”
      Durham is under no obligation to wait on Horowitz, or on internal DOJ investigations.

  30. snellvillebob says:

    After reading Sidney Powell’s book and reading of her going thru all that again defending Flynn, I hope the control of 302’s and evidence is taken away from prosecutors. The current control by the prosecutors keeps creating the perfect “total power corrupts totally” situation. The trouble is, who gets to control it? Who gets to hire, nominate or approve of them. Are they political? Can the Corruptocrats continue to stack the deck? I do not have a solution for that. One might consider control by the Supreme Court but look at how the FISA Court has been used corruptly.

    • sDee says:

      What is clear from all this this is that the FD-302 form and process must be ended. We have far better technology for a more open process.
      The 302 allows the agent to draft a subjective (biased) memo of what the witness said. Any interview must be recorded and transcribed to text real-time during the interview. Digital signatures of both must be attached to detect/compare edits or transcription errors.
      Copies of the audio, text and digital signatures must be given to subject of the interview at the conclusion of the interview.
      Any summary of the interview must be made by the agent who conducted it. Any speculation, interpretation or recommendation by that agent must reference and include the exact quotes and mating audio.
      Simple stuff with basic digital technology.

      • snellvillebob says:

        Another problem is the prosecutors get to decide what parts of the 302s is released or worse, they can create their own summary which most judges have no choice but accept as true.
        Sidney Powell, in the Merrill Lynch case, found where the Prosecutors had highlighted parts of 302s that proved her defendant innocent, and left those out of their summary which was then used in court.

      • J.Thomas says:

        As we are currently politically constituted, this would be difficult to do. However, you are 100% correct. It would be very easy to make the FBI process more just. The FBI is not interested in being more just. It takes political will to force this to happen.
        This is a bipartisan justice issue that if brought honestly before the American people would be an easy thing to move forward. But that doesn’t appear to be how our government works anymore.
        We’re not even honest about how our government works. Voting doesn’t even really do much anymore.

  31. Zorro says:

    What happens from here depends on how swamp Sullivan is. I bet Lawfare is already generating excuses for the judge, if swamp, and definitely helping out Liu and VanCrack.

    • We the people know says:

      VanCrack, a name that would make Dickens proud.

    • steph_gray says:

      As another poster above pointed out –
      Lawfare lawyers are dreadful! They are entitled buffoons who have never been in a real legal fight in their entire lives. Inept is their trademark. They haven’t been right once in this. Pajama boys in fancy suits.
      And we have Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani, and Jay Sekulow, among others.
      Take heart.

      • Linus in W.PA. says:

        I think you are grossly underestimating Lawfare.
        They are cunning, ruthless, and unprincipled. They are expanding the envelope of legal morass.

    • snellvillebob says:

      Judge Sullivan has been one of the best judges over the years. At one time he appointed a special prosecutor to investigate how the DOJ prosecutors manage 302s with respect to court cases. It was during the Senator Stephens case and the hidden 302s proved his innocence. This case caused Stephens to lose his election and transferred the power of the Senate to the Demoncrats. It caused the DOJ to clean up their act until such as Weissman came back and corrupted it again.

  32. CTH Fan says:

    IMO, and I know everybody has one, Senator Graham is the Deep State’s last backup plan. His refusal to hold hearings is their final protection. Clearly what most people seem to be missing is Lindsey is heavily conflicted because he has participated in the Ukrain debacle on so many levels. Why would he open hearings when he might very well be implicating himself.
    As for the coup, remember he supposedly told McCain to take the Steele garbage to the FBI. He was part and parcel of the public initiation of the coup. Once more, he may be implicating himself if the truth would come out.
    Remember Senator McCain’s funeral. Senator Graham clearly has a strong relationship with Huma, HC’s confidant. Hillary must laughing her rear end off right now.
    Mitch was very strategic in placing Lindsey as chairman of judiciary. Placing a highly conflicted Senator in that position ensures that POTUS has no real protection and no real action will be taken against the conspirators.
    Mr. President, as I have said on many occasions, use extreme caution while dealing with these characters. The only protection you have is we the people.
    AG Barr, why would you allow a lone Senator dictate to you how the IG report will be rolled out? Is it just procedure. Just curiousity on my behalf. No accusation implied by any means. So far I have faith in you.
    Having said all of this I have faith in knowing that there are truly good and great patriots out there and we will survive this nightmare with the USA staying the truly great Republic it was and is meant to be.
    Be Blessed Everyone

    • steph_gray says:

      I don’t for a moment assume that because AG Barr is meeting with Lindsay, that he is allowing Lindsay to dictate to him. AG Barr understands the separation of powers far too well for that nonsense.
      I suspect Barr is just giving Lindsay a courtesy briefing. I don’t assume Lindsay will do the right thing with information on any given day, of course.

  33. Alfred Brown says:

    After Reading Sundance’s analysis this morning, I looked at everyones notes this morning to see if anyone else saw Lindsay Graham on Hannity last night. Lindsay said “after Reading John Solomon’s latest report outing emails and text messages linking the Bidens with Influencing State Department employees vis s vi the Ukraine, HE IS NOW comfortable with going forward with an investigation (but not in His Committee) starting in the Foreign Relations Committee by questioning the State Department about what was going on!
    If we wait for the Stalwart, Big Talking Graham who told his Judicial Committee colleagues he was coming after them to take action, President Pence will be ending his second term before we get any answers.

  34. bluebongo says:

    This is really pretty simple; once these reports which will detail how invasive the surveillance operation was under the T-1 warrant against a sitting President are released our republic will never allow it to be repeated again. The 3 letters, the establishment rulers, and the deep state spokespeople (media) will all face the wrath of a deeply angered voter block that will historically change our representation and way we do business in 2020. President Trump has already mentioned this potential several times.
    Bad news doesn’t get better with time.

  35. Ken Mars says:

    The Regovocrat Party is currently making sure the anointed class does not get taken down in the release. Lindsey Graham’s meeting with Barr is for this purpose. Warner, Ryan, McConnell, McCain and Feinstein’s complicity will be protected – Mark my words.

  36. Mike in a Truck says:

    The whole stinking FBI,CIA ,NSC, State Department needs to be decontaminated. I dont know what’s used now but years ago we used STB- Super Tropical Bleach to decontaminate our track laying armored vehicles, trucks and artillery. The whole lot of them needs to be hosed and flushed out with STB.

  37. 1riot1ranger says:

    You’ve become the nation’s top expert on deciphering MediaSpeak

    • 1riot1ranger says:

      I mean that seriously. I am only halfway through your article and you are nailing the true meanings statement by statement

  38. mylabs5 says:

    I want to put in my thought on the phrase “by the book”.
    Now I know this sounds a little crazy, BUT..
    I believe that is a reference to a CT (counter terrorism) fictional novel that they all have read and use to communicate. That’s the ” book” . Why? Because it all reads like a fiction novel which is why it’s confusing to rational thinking people. They are playing out the plot of a book. Just like being actors in a play. Psychologically, these types of minds all work in one dimension and don’t have the creativity to put this extravagant type of thing together with all it’s many threads. it’s the psychopathy of their one dimensional thinking.
    I’m not sure which book and it would take some time/effort to find out.
    I finished watching season 2 of Clancy’s Jack Ryan last night. It’s very much realistic as to how analysis is don’t for spec ops (except the messiness for action’s sake but the basics are there). The ending is 180 degrees from reality, but could it be a Clancy book?
    As SD has written, all this has been planned for years. That’s connecting dots. Find the book and you’ll find the plan…ergo you can stop the plan a’priori.
    Take the various strange tweets and emails (Comey, Brennan, Holder, Clapper, Lynch, Obama,et al) put them together then connect the dots to find the book. Something in those will give it away.
    Those are my initial thoughts.

  39. Is it ever going to come out?

  40. islandpalmtrees says:

    IS THIS LEAKING OR PROPAGANDA
    When you have the government (James Baker in the Department of Defense Office of National Assessment.”) picking up the bill and directing activities to provide false statements to Dave Ignatius then have we moved from leaking to PROPAGANDA. We all know, by now that Stefan Halper was being paid by the FBI and CIA.
    SCOOP: CIA, FBI Informant Was Washington Post Source For Russiagate Smears
    By Margot Cleveland
    NOVEMBER 4, 2019
    “The Federalist has learned that the now-outed CIA and FBI informant Stefan Halper served as a source for Washington Post reporter David Ignatius, providing more evidence that the intelligence community has co-opted the press to push anti-Trump conspiracy theories. In addition, an email recently obtained by The Federalist from the MI5-connected Christopher Andrew bragging that his long-time friend Ignatius has the “‘inside track’ on Flynn” adds further confirmation of this conclusion.
    Svetlana Lokhova, the Russian-born English citizen and Soviet-era scholar, told The Federalist that she only realized the significance of her communications with and about Ignatius following the filing of attorney Sidney Powell’s reply brief in the Michael Flynn case.
    In last week’s court filing, Powell highlighted how the CIA, FBI, Halper, and possibly James Baker used the unnamed and unaware Lokhova and the complicit Ignatius to destroy Flynn. This James Baker is not the one who worked under James Comey at the FBI, but a James Baker in the Department of Defense Office of National Assessment.”
    http://thefederalist.com/2019/11/04/scoop-cia-fbi-informant-was-washington-post-source-for-russiagate-smears/

  41. islandpalmtrees says:

    Many of us know that propaganda used on American Citizens is now legal based on a law passed by Obama. So will these people ever be prosecuted for their leaking or propaganda since I am not sure that we can tell the difference. Does anyone no the difference?

  42. beach lover says:

    Judical Watch.. still doing the heavy lifting..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvZANNnHELg&feature=youtu.be

  43. Bryan Alexander says:

    Big picture look at this.
    William Barr is in an almost incomprehensibly tough position. If he “burns it down” or “goes nuclear” on these miscreants, the results will be catastrophic for the Justice system, as a whole. Consider just a few of the ramifications
    1. Thousands of cases handled by these people would be re-examined by defense lawyers and tens of thousands of motions for new trials would be filed. This would choke the court system down to a near standstill. I’m talking about cases that have nothing to do with this at all, just that they are in the same jurisdiction as some of the reviews and appeals would be done.
    2. There are TONS of reforms that need to come out of this. For example, it should be made law that any sit-down interview with FBI agents must be audio-recorded, at a minimum and both audio and video recorded if done in a Federal Building. That needs to be codified into law by Congress. What are the chances of THAT happening right now? Basically, zero.
    3. FISA. What do you do? Turn off the electronics looking for actual terrorists? You know there is SOME good done in this by the NSA. But this system is being abused so badly that it is almost impossible to use it without violating the civil rights of innocent Americans.
    4. The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. How do you expose and punish Warner and all those complicit in leaking the Carter Page FISA Warrant?
    5. How do you get the Main Stream Media into a position where it actually stops pushing an agenda and reports news and facts without spinning it to political benefit? Barring (no pun intended) several hours-long presidential addresses to the nation exposing the entire plot and plotters, where A*L*L of the media required to broadcast it, many Americans will not pay attention to any of it, but will still vote guided by a 15 second soundbite generated by political talking heads.
    We could go pages and pages and pages of problems that are coming out of this scandal. We really can not even begin to think about fixing it because still don’t know what all is broken and how badly it is broken.
    Here is his conundrum: If you nuke the individuals, you will likely have to destroy large parts of the overall structure. In order to preserve most portions of the structure, you will likely have to let some people go without full/any punishment.
    How do you stop the abuses without destroying the structure? Yes, we need the structure. You can’t let lawbreaking go unprosecuted. If we are to be a nation of laws, then we have to have a structure to punish lawbreakers. Right now, the lawmakers are bitterly divided.
    This has the potential to be as big as the American Civil War. If we can’t have a system where ALL lawbreakers are punished equally, the country WILL divide.
    Right now, I will not criticize Barr TOO much. He is in a position to destroy the US justice system and provoke a Civil War, OR, solidify and empower the actions of people conducting a soft coup. I know what I WANT to have happen, but I don’t know if Barr can make that happen or if the country can survive if he does try to make it happen.

    • Marina Sapir says:

      Got it. Indicting Comey will destroy our great justice system and Justice itself. Which will immediately cause Civil War. So, let Comey go. And let us keep everything as is. It is perfect.

    • jus wundrin says:

      Burn it down, and rebuild from scratch. You cant fix what is unfixable.

    • islandpalmtrees says:

      IS IT TIME TO TURN BACK THE CLOCK?
      All very good questions. Perhaps it’s time to do a reset of our own. By reset, I mean turning back all the laws to a point prior to a specific date. Right now, software developers would recognize what we are doing as forward fixing. A process full of errors and prone to failures.
      How many times have we seen the FISA Act fail. How many times have we seen the NSA implicated in illegal spying. How many times have we seen the IC exceed their authority. I could continue for a long, long time.
      The Present law makers in large part are clearly unable to cope with their own jobs. The justice department is full of Judges operating outside of the law and their leadership seems to have turned a blind eye.

  44. islandpalmtrees says:

    Just, how does that work?
    Do we have little spots of legal propaganda distribution in our government and if the misleading or false information does not come from one of these authorized leak points. Then do we have a real leak. Or, can the upper leadership of our government just say whatever they want under the protection of the propaganda law and we get to call it a leak.

  45. Ivehadit says:

    Another possible angle to me is…It all seems like a game of chicken…who will make the first move-congress or Barr. (The inquiry is NOT an impeachment process.) Both waiting for maximum leverage with the public and/or other things, imho. Whomever shows their cards first usually loses.
    We know our VSG president loves maximum leverage! We shall see.

  46. JeffP. says:

    Devlin Barrett, Robert Costa and Matt Zapotosky at the Washington Post. Enemies of the People, Patriots. Those in D.C. are close to most of them at least some of the time. Just saying….

  47. An says:

    > Keep in mind, a few days AFTER the Mueller team used the Papadopoulos mistake of wrongfully remembering the date of first contact with Mifsud to charge him with a 1001 violation of lying to investigators; and therein specifically identifying Mifsud as a Russian operative attempting to influence Papadopoulos; the same Joseph Mifsud is pictured (October 21st, 2017) hanging out with Boris Johnson & other officials in London.
    If you’re wondering what’s up, just read this news:
    https://www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnsons-conservatives-receive-surge-in-cash-from-russians-2019-11

  48. willthesuevi says:

    Any conservative, conservatarian, or even a disgusting RINO, buying anything off of Amazon is cutting our own throat.
    Every dime you put in Jeff Bezos’s pocket funds WaPo.
    Quit supporting people that hate you. Almost impossible I know, but if we can do our best to eschew convenience for liberty we can make an impact.

    • I’m sorry but when you live in a smaller population area you have to buy things where you find them for the best price.

    • Marina Sapir says:

      I love Amazon. It improves my quality of life greatly, in rural Maine. WaPo was the CIA platform since its creation. It was always an outlet of the deep state.
      It did not change a bit since Bezos bought it.

      • willthesuevi says:

        BS. Despite being a CIA mouthpiece, WaPo used to make an attempt and appear to be a real news agency.
        Bezos gave them permission to be partisan hacks and force a leftist narrative in every single aspect of their reporting.
        You are free to trade convenience for liberty if you want.

  49. Pokey says:

    I am very concerned that Durham won’t live long enough to push a prosecution through. As soon as he tries the Deep State Bureaucracies will launch into stage 4, 5,6 or whatever it is now. The message will be clear as Durham will be out walking his dog late at night and have an unexpected heart attack. Or maybe he will just be found dead from natural causes. Or maybe he will commit suicide with a sheet hanging from a bed post….. I hope everyone can get this drift. It is over 4 years since the Deep State began this operation and they are keen to see it ended before the 2020 election gets cranked up. Many of them are close to collecting their pensions, you know.
    I have been watching for over 50 years and no Demcommie Bureaucrat has ever been put in jail for criminal behavior. When I see that track record changing substantially, I will begin to hope our Republic can be saved.
    For now, I will just say that the patient is losing the battle with the collectivist claptrap of George Soros and the lemmings he controls with his money. There are literally hundreds of intertwined organizations, dedicated to open borders and globalist style communism, that are financially supported by Soros. And many of those appear to be our failing mainstream media corporations.
    Wake me up if Durham and Barr ever get any Bureaucrat into a courtroom or if any Federal Bureaucracy gets downsisized or eliminated.

  50. marsouin says:

    Wikileaks revealed back in 2016 the frightening intimacy among the Deep State, the DNC, and news media with each other. It’s as though they are all different sides of the same organization. Yet, Conservatism, Inc. made no effort to bring this attention to the general public.

  51. Sunshine78 says:

    The detail these reporters have is mind boggling. Aren’t leaks illegal? Where is the investigation into these leaks? Wasn’t McCabe fired for leaking?

    • Republicanvet91 says:

      It would be interesting to know how many people have access to Barr’s schedule to know he is meeting with Graham.

  52. I Will Not Comply says:

    Can we start a go fund me page, donate to the Clinton Foundation and just have them take these people out? I’m guessing for the right price they would be more than happy to help out. Isn’t that how things are done now days? Asking for a friend. I hate these people!

  53. Zippy says:

    “Joseph Mifsud is the Maltese Fulcrum!”
    Which even we here have known for a LONG time and, yet, Trump’s “allies” didn’t get around to (supposedly) getting his input by listening to his TAPED deposition (since his likely PHONY cover story of fearing for his life justifies keeping him PERMANENTLY in hiding… as if the people who might want to harm him couldn’t find him if they wanted to, just as Trump’s “allies” couldn’t have found him if THEY had wanted to… which they didn’t) rather than using the assets of a 4.2 TRILLION dollar government to track him down LONG ago.
    He’s not been hiding out in a cave in Syria. The fact that the guy who could have OBLITERATED Mueller’s probe from day one wasn’t hunted down LONG ago makes EVERYTHING that has (and hasn’t) happened thus far fail the smell test very badly.

  54. WRB says:

    The colonists, who had convened the Stamp Act Congress in October 1765 to vocalize their opposition to the impending enactment, greeted the arrival of the stamps with outrage and violence. Most Americans called for a boycott of British goods, and some organized attacks on the customhouses and homes of tax collectors.

  55. dayallaxeded says:

    Ok, I know I read like a broken record sounds, but
    VSGPDJT, PLEASE RELEASE THE F’N KRAKEN!
    Declassify and order release to the public of all classified and other source material regarding the HELLary emails, Mulehead travesty, and all pending IG investigations. If lackies continue to obstruct, can ’em with no mercy.

    • gda53 says:

      This is the greatest reality show EVER!
      PDJT is the MASTER of the reality show. He virtually invented it.
      The first season of this grand reality show ends Nov 3, 2020.
      Difficult to believe PDJT allows anyone to interfere with his main plot line.
      All will be revealed at the right and proper time. Every one of the major players have their cues and will hit their mark.
      Trust in the brilliance of our VSG. Don’t get distracted by all the minor sub-plots that may SEEM important. They aren’t.
      .

  56. hawkins6 says:

    sundance’s articles about the mutually beneficial arrangements between different select groups of co-operative reporters at the Wa Po, the NYT, Isikoff at Yahoo News etc and corrupt leakers in a specific Intel or Law Enforcement agency are very revealing but I have not seen these “illicit” relationships mentioned anywhere else.
    It’s disgusting that “.. FBI Director Chris Wray and AG Bill Barr have not removed the career resistance operatives inside the institutions.” The same corrupt leaks and relationships are continuing unabated so SD’s quote is undoubtedly accurate. The 2 tiered system is alive and even thriving under the Barr/Wray watch, while the President is being harassed with yet another nefarious hoax and the release of the IG Report is being effectively delayed by the Dem operatives. When you only indict or harass one side nothing changes but the side with the free passes is emboldened. This is definitely a “Groundhog Day” scenario with only a few minor alterations.

  57. Joe says:

    And as a bonus, General Flynn is finally getting the trial he deserves. Funny, once his savings was gone he was put in a legal sleeper hold until he plead guilty. And now we find out his first lawyer had a conflict with the DOJ that everyone conveniently forgot about.
    I hope Barr puts some of these cops in jail soon. If he doesn’t the Dems will revise the narrative forever.

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