Devin Nunes Discusses Partisan Impeachment, Ukraine and State Dept Involvement….

Devin Nunes appears on Fox News with Sean Hannity to discuss the manipulated one party procedures within Pelosi’s impeachment program.

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Speaker Pelosi cannot engage the courts for support against the Executive Branch because the House has not created their judicial authority.  As a result of their lack of a vote to initiate the House “impeachment inquiry” there is no penalty for non-compliance behind any committee subpoena.

Attempting to compel testimony that crosses through the separation of powers; and goes even further in an attempt to penetrate the firewall around executive privilege; requires the House -or a committee therein- to carry “Judicial Authority“.

“Judicial Authority” is not absolute authority, but rather a legal reference and framework that forms the basis for an impeachment ‘compulsion demand‘ (or subpoena) by the House.  Judicial Authority is the House saying they have a legal basis to make a demand.

The reason judicial authority is necessary, is because creating Judicial authority, via the Legislative Branch full chamber vote, gives the Executive Branch access to appeal any legislative demand via the Judicial Branch (federal courts).

Repeat for emphasis:

…The reason judicial authority is constitutionally required, is because creating Judicial authority, gives the Executive Branch a process to appeal any legislative demand via the Judicial Branch (federal courts)….

Absent the creation of judicial authority the House has not created a penalty for non-compliance.  However, absent a penalty for non-compliance the Executive Branch has no process to engage an appellate review by federal courts.   This is the purposeful trick within the Pelosi/Lawfare road-map.

Speaker Pelosi’s current Lawfare-inspired road-map (House and committee rule changes therein) attempts to construct a path to impeachment that avoids asserting House “judicial authority”; because they fear losses from a Judicial Branch ruling.  Those who constructed the road-map are also concerned about outright blocks by the courts in their proceedings.

This process issue was argued by Lawfare member Douglas Letter today during a hearing on the topic of the House Judiciary Committee gaining access to Weissmann/Mueller’s grand jury evidence.  [Expanded Here]

Here’s the bottom line: “Judicial Authority”, granted by a full House vote, gives the House of Representatives more authority in their impeachment construct.  However, “judicial authority” also grants the Executive Branch a path to appeal via the Judicial Branch.

Because the Lawfare/Pelosi roadmap intends to subvert judicial authority, it is destined by design to end up running head-first into a constitutional problem; specifically separation of power and executive privilege.  That predictable constitutional issue will end up with arguments to The Supreme Court.  THAT is why the Democrats have been working for months to delegitimize the Supreme Court.

Please let me repeat for emphasis.  The Lawfare impeachment road-map is designed to conflict with the constitution.  It is a necessary -and unavoidable- feature of the plan, not a flaw.  Pelosi and the Lawfare group know they are creating a constitutional crisis; that is why the background attacks against the Supreme Court were started months ago.

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141 Responses to Devin Nunes Discusses Partisan Impeachment, Ukraine and State Dept Involvement….

    • bluebongo says:

      The letter the President’s team sent to Pelosi cut the Gordian knot. There isn’t a trial of any sort without witnesses. Kind of tough to justify impeachment. Most Americans see this as a sham, the Democrats will pay dearly in a year.

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      • islandpalmtrees says:

        They know that it’s a sham. Sundance told us that their true target is “designed to conflict with the constitution”. They want the conflict.

        It looks to be a true and open coup.

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        • FrogTongue says:

          Sundance, to what end . . . ?

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        • KAR says:

          Since the “impeachment” is a sham, why doesn’t Trump just ignore it? I don’t get this AT ALL. Trump could just say, “I’ll respond to impeachment if legal impeachment occurs,” and never say anything publicly beyond this. His spokespeople could just say, “No comment.” It seems to me Trump is making the faux impeachment more real by reacting to it. Like running from a dog makes it chase you. IS THIS SOME KIND OF STRATEGY or something?? Seems dangerous to me.

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          • Many many people are STILL unaware of the shenanigans going on, thanks to distractions provided and common sense omitted by venues of influence.

            Trump ‘trumpets’ reality and people who are oblivious REALLY ‘awaken’ to it finally.

            So many say that they don’t want secrets, want transparency…well despite US knowing what is going on there are millions who are only beginning to awaken to the fact that we are not on a course that has allowed administrations to operate one after the other without attempts to impose tyranny.

            All of the coups going on and the events like Hong Kong and Venezuela are MINIMALLY broadcast by mainstream media and the reality of the situation is revised to reflect attitudes that globalists want every human being to swallow and absorb without exception.

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        • and not one of these lard a**ed, cortisol bellied, bodyguarded individuals would have the stamina to fight even the most mild battle against American civilians determined to bring them to justice that our founders empowered us to impose.

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      • oldarmyblog says:

        Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. The unending 24/7 negative propaganda of the media will have an effect. Will enough people be able to see through the lies of the Democrats? Well I hope so, but am pessimistic about all the ignorant soccer moms and social justice warriors. Public education has produced several generations that don’t know how to think for themselves. Even if Trump wins a second term, the long range prospects for the Republic do not look good. Welcome to the USSA.

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    • The Akh says:

      I just posted this in the general thread.

      Anybody know what Rudy is up to? “Watch Romania” line from Rudy has me intrigued.

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      • felipe says:

        Akh:
        Rudy said “Watch Romania” and that there would be other [countries] named. And someone else today said “Watch Kazakhstan”. Sounds like a pretty steady drip of foreign corruption activities are about to drop. Prepping the battlefield for the Weiner laptop info to see the light of day? One can hope.

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        • Bogeyfree says:

          Sounds like possibly massive pay for play or more money laundering schemes IMO.

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        • mtk says:

          Nah, it can not have anything to do with 30,000 delete emails.

          I will say it agian, “much hay was made about classified intell on the server and no proscutitoral intent.
          The real question is not the classified intell, the real question is the stuff in between classified intell and ‘hot sauce’, cat memes and wedding planning.

          Again(/sarc) nothing to do with pay to play. Nah, it is just more victimhood leveraging designed to cash in on the scam.

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        • cali says:

          @felipe: Kazakhstan leads to uranium one via Frank Guistra (Canadian) who owned the uranium mine there. Bill and Hillary Clinton are big money benefactors Of Guistra via CF.

          They opened a big can of worms singling out Ukraine as a means to start their impeachment coup.

          These people are stupid!

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        • My ‘inside’ information, given to me by a wealthy globalist who mistook my friendship for blind acceptance of his every view, exposed to me that the plan was for Hillary to win, ALL national borders disappeared and the wealthy globalists INVESTING in regions deemed viable for profit. They would each choose one that was closest to their heart and invest money into schools and financial training, providing the means out of poverty and into wealth and conformity to a religion of money, sex and essentially compassionate tyranny.

          When I pointed out that many of BILLIONS did not live in regions that were sufficiently developed or were torn by unrest that made them financially NON-viable, he gave a shrug that Mengeles would have done Mengeles proud, conceding that many would indeed die.
          NO thought to any fight to free or defend those treated so badly, as in the Sudan.

          MONEY would be the cornerstone of the world and a liberal, anything goes morality, such that ‘perversion’ and ‘terrorist’ would be inappropriate; and Christianity and Judaism would be essentially surrendered to genocide, troubling as they are in an ‘advanced’ society that embraces narcissism and secularism.

          No word on what would be done with Mohammed’s spawn who of course would not be conforming to any of that and would of course be laughing at rich and ‘benevolent’ leaders who eschewed all violence and expected a ‘kumbaya’ bliss shared by all.

          What I learned is that his cronies are WORLDWIDE and they had been expecting all through Obama’s regime to be shortly coming out of the shadows and governing and influencing out in the open as they have been doing underground for decades.

          I don’t know how aware he was of the level of perversion that WEinstein on the west coast and Epstein on the east coast and the clinton “pizza gate’ scandal in DC that was only whispered about, indicates exists.

          Sundance and others may already be aware of these but being tied to pro life and learning how young prostitutes are quickly brought for abortions that either kill them or not and those babies are sold for MILLIONS and the surviving prostitutes let back out on the streets or out to “Lolita” flights …well the SCANDAL if the world knew that globalist leaders have been actively protecting or investing in or indulging in the sex trafficking, baby selling, and gruesome abuse of children…

          Something like that would drive a panicked to left to behave as desperately…as they are, dismissing and disregarding all of our guardrails and checks on corruption in a race against being exposed to the world.

          Drug cartels have been left alone by politicians. Gruesome abortion mills have been left alone by politicians. SEx trafficking and enslavement have been left alone by politicians. Gang related violence and homicide have been left alone by politicians.

          Crime ignored by people who have mysteriously been getting wealthy while in jobs as ‘public servants’, are all too likely crimes that have fattened their wallets and even been indulged in shamelessly (and I do mean SHAMELESS in the most profound moral definition of the word) . OBama had some of the most horrible Islamist terrorists visit him regularly to teh White House as he ordered intelligence to prohibit the terms ‘terrorist’ and “Islam” from intelligence. RAhm Emmanuel hobnobbed with the bottom of the barrel in Chicago while homicide skyrocketed and convictions stalled to a level that would indicate no crime existed. San Francisco has pretty much let scot free illegals who KILL innocent citizens.

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      • A2 says:

        Maybe a reference to this report

        “Romanian media reported in 2017 HUNTER BIDEN tried to help the embattled real estate mogul (who had just been convicted of corruption), including by making his case before Congress.
        No details in report, but Biden hasn’t been registered to lobby since ’08.”
        http://ipad.hotnews.ro/21936402

        NYT also reported it back in May.

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      • The swamp is GLOBAL. From the onset, for VSG President Donald J. Trump, it’s been a global effort so he can ensure the “false song of globalism” is destroyed.

        Period.

        Gotta love it.

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      • BitterC says:

        Interestingly, this article says Rudy was a legal advisor to same Romanian corrupt businessman. Rudy does have chutzpah

        https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joe-bidens-son-advised-crooked-romanian-businessman-sentenced-over-corruption

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        • GB Bari says:

          Rudy is not stupid. If he was involved in shady dealings he would not have ever brought up the persons name and country. But anyone who thinks Giuliani would be involved that way is deliberately ignoring the mans entire professional career and record.
          Chutzpah? I’d call it more accurately “bold justified aggression.”

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      • WSB says:

        More Bidenisms.

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      • snellvillebob says:

        Rudy also said he had all sorts of investigative incidents on Biden as VP. And when he was done with that, he had even more incidents over the 30 years as a Senator.

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    • A2 says:

      Very detailed report on the companies of the Bidens.

      “Hunter Biden’s web of interests
      His ties span the globe and raise questions about the overlap of business and politics”

      https://www.ft.com/content/3904f888-e8ef-11e9-a240-3b065ef5fc55

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    • ann says:

      The letter by the President’s attorney really clarified the House procedures for their impeachment drive is set up like a FISC hearing.
      No defense, disclosure,, etc. Welcome to the outing of the Tyranny Party.

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    • Trouble is they have already had witnesses (albeit questionable ones) so they basically go ahead and draw up articles from that. Under Nancy’s rules, they can refer whatever they have over to Nadler to draw up articles then there will be no choice but for the Senate to take it up or dismiss it. No getting around this. Apparently.

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    • SDNY arrested two Ukrainian nationals that were working with R.W. Giuliani to investigate DNC-Ukraine collusion at Dulles today. SDNY alleges campaign finance violations.

      SDNY statement on arrest of Guiliani associates Lev Parnas:

      “Democrats like Nellie Ohr, Alexandria Chalupa, Glenn Simpson, Chris Steele, Sidney Blumenthal, Cody Sherer, and FusionGPS conduct lawful investigations based on credible allegations working with our allies…”

      “… Republicans like Giuliani pressure and collude with foreign powers to manufacture dirt on their political enemies to illegally influence elections…”

      I’m not sure how much longer our Republic will survive with this overt, in-your-face, tyrannical police state, two-tiered system of justice.

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    • Yippeekiyay says:

      Thank you, sundance. Great video and article. Understanding the process answers a lot of questions.

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  1. CopperTop says:

    Feature not a flaw. Also in that interview, Nunes seemed to understand that an impeachment is headed to the Senate regardless of WH pushback and that Pelosi is going to do this just before the FISA IG drop.

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    • Kleen says:

      Trump’s team has to drop a few MOABS of truth ( declassify) on the cowards before they get a chance to accomplish their fake impeachment.

      Has to!

      Come on!!!!

      They got the goodies, drop some. Detonate their scam once and for all. Release some dirt on swampy Congress. We all know they are involved in endless corruption. Take them down!!!!

      Declassify!!!!!!

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    • Jan says:

      The IG report is coming out Oct. 17, apparently it’s “telephone book size.” I don’t think Nasty can move impeachment through that fast. But that’s just MHAO.

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      • stripmallgrackle says:

        Pelosi may need more time to digest the report, but the CNN’s crack team of rapid response speed readers will have a full analysis loaded on the TelePrompter in less than fifteen minutes. They’re that good.

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    • justlizzyp says:

      Can she get that done in 1 week?

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    • Mr e-man says:

      I see a problem though. The construct was using the whistleleaker report to create a false narrative of what Trump said. Specifically, they were going to use the speech Schiff made up. That would infuriate the public and push the Dem holdouts to finally come over and support impeachment.

      However, each one would still have a problem at home in 2020. I am sure they fully expect Nancy to push the whole Trump should be impeached and the Senate Republicans should be thrown out of office for not removing him. This would also be her protection of those Dems in Trump districts as well as appeasing her rabid base. It’s a Hail Mary but they have nothing left to lose.

      When Trump published the transcript, he blew that up. Schiff got exposed as a liar. Nancy got exposed as starting impeachment based on a whistleleaker report not supported by the actual phone call and she didn’t wait for facts. Nervous Dems see all that playing out. Even though they are using the MSM to cover for them and spout their narrative 24/7 to get the holdout Dem support, it isn’t going over well with the public. The “narrative” is not supported by the transcript so they fell short.

      I am not sure she can get the 218 votes needed. She can only lose about 17-20 Dems and there are close to 30 in Trump districts. Will they all fall on the sword for the team, especially knowing it will not result in Trumps removal from office but quite possibly result in their own removal in 2020?

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  2. Dekester says:

    I made a mistake and checked the Fox site. Man what a fool, I was.

    Polls are fake I know, but the level of dis information and lies is surreal.

    I won’t quote them here, but F**k I am angry, and as regards this anger is a wasted emotion.

    But really, the MSM needs to be seriously flogged..

    Go Nunes, Giuliani and others.

    Sorry for the rant.

    God bless PDJT

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    • pucecatt says:

      Those polls are left leaning if you look at the breakdown of each party it’s high on the dem side of course ..

      Liked by 3 people

      • stripmallgrackle says:

        Don’t discount the unregistered Guatemalan vote. It’s a big block, and no law says they can’t be polled. First amendment rights, and all that. Beto is counting on them to do the heavy lifting next year.

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    • Niagara Frontier says:

      I saw the reporting on that poll too. The usual suspects on Fox seemed absolutely giddy reporting how now a majority of Americans supposedly have “turned against” the President and not only support impeachment but removal from office. You’d think these frauds would at least try to hide their glee.

      I will be sorely disappointed if a few media personalities aren’t also swept up in some of the forthcoming criminal indictments.

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      • Jan says:

        FOX polls are always inaccurate, probably because the same analysts that called the 2018 mid-term elections early conduct these polls. This is all crap news and yes, except for a few on FOX, FOX is going to fake news, anti-Trump as Paul Ryan has been urging them to do.

        Thank God they haven’t gotten to Catherine Herridge yet.

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      • stripmallgrackle says:

        Did they mention whether or not the walls were closing in? For three years I’ve watched as professional anchor after professional anchor has announced that “this could be the end for the Trump administration”. Now I wear my bug-out bag everywhere I go. Clearly, Wolf Blitzer is convinced that he knows something. What it is, I can’t say. Ignoring that wouldn’t be prudent.

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    • Check the fine print, Independents had a margin of error +-8%! That is a 16pt swing, meaning it is useless. The Rep had a +-5% MOE, another useless number. The Dems were 3.5% MOE, more in line with normal poll MOE. This was a pure narrative poll, no science at all.

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      • GB Bari says:

        The vast majority of news consumers have NO IDEA how to interpret a poll when those statistics are provided. If the samples aren’t of LIKELY VOTERS ONLY and sufficiently large and random to provide +/- 3% sampling error or less, the poll is useless and meaningless.

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      • stripmallgrackle says:

        8% is nothing. NASA confirmed that 2015 as the hottest year on record with a 36% certainty. That’s what I call settled science. I think the smart kids know what they’er doing.

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    • Rynn69 says:

      Dekester: I would bet 99.9% of the Democrat internal polling is bad for them. If it was good, they would not be publishing fake polls. They wouldn’t need to.

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    • patti says:

      Hi Dekster…FYI on the Fox News poll.

      The company that did that poll is Braun Research. Owned by progressive activists.

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    • Faux has always been phake news Dekester, but they used to be a bit more “slick” about it when Ailes was still around.

      The cats been outta the bag furreal ever since.

      Your anger will subside as The Big Ugly kicks into fourth gear… in my consistent opinion.

      😀

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    • WSB says:

      Always weighted + 8% or more for Dimms, and the independents always are estimated at 28% rather than the 40% they currently are.

      FUBAR always!

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    • People still believe in polls after 2016?

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      • Dekester says:

        Thanks folks,

        I am calmer now. A flaw of mine is that blantant injustice truly gets at me, especially when the smears and lies are directed at a family as genuine as the Trumps.

        Stuck, it’s not that I believe polls. I don’t, however many do, and up this way ( Canada) even half decent folks are getting a little “ wobbly” at the impeachment vitriol. It’s relentless and the haters are breathless in their hate for PDJT.

        Its 24/7 Trump hate on the MSM, I don’t watch it. But it is in Gyms, Restaurants, Hospital waiting rooms, Dentist/ Dr offices. Even my barbers.

        I even said to my barber just last week, that if she wasn’t such a nice lady I couldn’t come into the store because of the news channel that was on.

        The sound was down, but the continual loop of the banner along the bottom was irritating.

        She doesn’t notice it ( lucky her) but the owner likes it on.

        I know to “ let it go” but it is a challenge.

        God bless PDJT

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  3. pucecatt says:

    Thank you for the breakdown and easy understanding of this circus 🎪

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  4. Deplorable Cancuk says:

    So has Trump’s position been strengthened by his two SCOTUS appointments and the majority in the senate? He seems impervious to impeachment on these grounds? Perhaps I am misunderstanding? This seems like a very long shot for the Demtards.

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    • babrightlight says:

      True. The only wild card is Chief Justice Roberts–he would be the judge. As many on this site have noted, Roberts appears compromised. I think Obama found dirt on him (illegal adoption?) prior to the Obamacare vote which he flipped flopped on at the last minute. He’s voted strangely in several other cases. This would be big so he may be highly pressured/coerced to give much latitude to the Dem prosecutors. That said, I can’t image 19 Repub senators voting for Impeachment.

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    • TPW says:

      Not if they can manufacture a good enough reason to sway the never Trumpers in Senate. I hope at some point we get fed up enough to do something about all of this. Barr is even siding with FIB on the arrest of the 2 guys that helped Rudy. I hope PT squeezes Barr till he is Blue in the face.

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  5. islandpalmtrees says:

    Are the actions of the Lawfare Group and Speaker Pelosi a form of Sedition since they seek subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent towards?

    Definition of Sedition:
    Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent towards, or resistance against established authority

    Sundance writes:
    “Please let me repeat for emphasis. The Lawfare impeachment road-map is designed to conflict with the constitution. It is a necessary -and unavoidable- feature of the plan, not a flaw. Pelosi and the Lawfare group know they are creating a constitutional crisis; that is why the background attacks against the Supreme Court were started months ago”

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  6. Right to reply says:

    Vote them out, keep them out!

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  7. All Too Much says:

    Spying on journalists. That’s a nice twist.
    I wonder what the NYT, Post, et al. think about that.

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  8. Republicanvet91 says:

    In that screen clip of the video, Nunes looks defeated and tired. I know that is not so, but still.

    Hoping he perseveres.

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    • Jan says:

      I love Nunes, but he is always quiet and laid back. He lets his actions speak for him. He gets to go on with his lawsuit against Twitter, so big news for him yesterday.

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      • Republicanvet91 says:

        That IS good news. I think he has been pretty sharp throughout this nonsense, and believe it was one of the more disgraceful things Ryan ever did when he forced him to recuse for a period.

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  9. islandpalmtrees says:

    Could the Executive Branch file a complaint against Lawfare Group and Speaker Pelosi since they are now denying elected members of the House and Executive Branch their rights provided to them under the Constitution. In effect violating their rights under the Color of Law?

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    • All Too Much says:

      In what forum what the complaint be filed?
      As of now, no court has jurisdiction to hear any complaint or appeal.
      Read SD’s analysis above and those linked inside.

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      • islandpalmtrees says:

        Supreme Court is designed to be a tie breaker between the Legislative and Executive Branch, right? And, right now they are denying elected republican members of the house the right to participate in what the Democrats are calling an impeachment. You don’t involve the White House, just the lack of legal participation for the republican members of the house. You make them move.

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      • islandpalmtrees says:

        House members have rights under the Color of Law, that is the right to participate.

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  10. Magabear says:

    So basically, Sundance is saying what I’ve been saying……just more eloquently. :😉

    The demonrats only “win” here is if their compliant media allies can fool enough people with their 24/7 BS. It would be nice if our alleged friends in the media like Fox would stop parroting the lefts talking points though (e.g. issuing subpoenas).

    We need to stop legitimizing leftist mouthpieces like the NYT and WP by quoting from them as if they’re legitimate sources of news. They’re anything but that.

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      Forget the media bias, Barr either upholds the rule of law and indicts these traitors who planned and staged this coup or there is no more rule of law for all or a Republic as we know it today!

      IMO – 2 people decide the fate of this country – AG Barr & John Durham

      Remember those names!

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      • JoeMeek says:

        Dear AG William Barr, cc.John Durham
        Decency, security and liberty alike demand that government officials shall be subjected to the same rules of conduct that are commands to the citizen. In a government of laws, existence of the government will be imperiled if it fails to observe the law scrupulously. Our Government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the Government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.
        – Justice Brandeis, Olimstead v. United States 277 U.S. 438 (1928)

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      • At this point and with global awareness, and with nowhere to hide, one might think they will choose wisely…

        Might. Barr’s history is not one I would want as my own.

        But, this is but a battle in this war started by the globalists against us, so we shouldn’t think it’s the end all of everything. President Trump didn’t get to the Oval Office by “mistake”!

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  11. Bogeyfree says:

    Corruption in DC is rampant and a total cesspool.

    Between the non stop spying, unmasking, pay for play, kickbacks, leaking, misusing classified information, money laundering, bias media and 2 attempted coups on a sitting President with the most recent using a hearsay WB to create an illusion of obstruction is absolutely despicable.

    AG Barr, We know you want to save the Institutions but the entire Republic and the rule of law are on fire.

    There are no institutions as you have know them if there is not a Republic and the Rule of Law.

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  12. The Gipper Lives says:

    Trying to provoke a Constitutional Crisis suits the Democrats’ purposes better than a straight inquiry. They need Gorilla Dust for the Big Ugly, not the Gorilla. So they will continue to act out, not unlike Peggy Shippen faking hysteria to avoid being charged with treason for her spying with Benedict Arnold and John Andre.

    Something else is bothering them, too. The Kubler-Ross Democrats know deep down that the Obama/Clinton Junta is guilty of the Police State Coup Attempt against Donald Trump–not to mention the trial run against Mitt Romney. The awesome surveillance powers of the Security State were like catnip to these Communists. Nothing within them said “Stop!”.

    They are writhing like maniacs because they know deep in their reptile brains that THEY HAVE LOST THE MORAL HIGH GROUND TO PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP.

    Its more than they can bear.

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  13. All Too Much says:

    The Lawfare impeachment plan is designed to create a constitutional crisis, but to what end?
    If the plan is to take the issue created by the plan, the no due process, etc, issue, is to put it in before SCOTUS, why would they want that? Maybe its as simple as the 2020 election, But at some point, the rake becomes a backhoe.

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      Don’t forget THE DATABASE.

      IMO, All stops will be pulled and used to ensure the people who are leveraged come their way.

      They are going all in, right here, right now. They can’t turn back as too many are getting exposed. The fire is too close.

      I’m hoping it will be their last stand!

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  14. AvengingAngel says:

    I have interesting thoughts .If Trump is re-elected and we get back the house , I would have the new house nullify Pelosi’s impeachment and drive the kooks crazy .

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  15. All Too Much says:

    Sedition is a very serious.
    Creating a constitutional crisis smells a lot like sedition.

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  16. islandpalmtrees says:

    These people must have a plan beyond a constitutional crisis. what is that plan? Think about it, you plan for months to have a “constitutional crisis” to what end. To force the setting president to step down, to remove him by force – what is their intent?

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    • The Gipper Lives says:

      hung juries for starters.

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    • NJF says:

      They’ll play a SCOTUS decision as a win either way. If SCOTUS rules what the house is doing is A-ok,’they win. If they rule against the house, Nan et al will scream the courts decision is illegitimate, bc Kavanaugh is illegitimate. Either way, all they can really hope to do is damage POTUS to the point where voters abandon him.

      That’s all I got. 😚

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    • Ma McGriz says:

      islandpalmtrees: I wonder if their intent is to seize power. We’ve been in a state of constitutional crisis since they succeeded in installing obama. They went nuts with their treachery and greed, but weren’t able to hang onto power and maintain their cover.
      They had the ball and plenty of first-downs, but they failed to convert.
      This may be them busting a last gasp move to try and hopelessly destabilize our government in order to seize and maintain control using weaponized departments and loyalist within the system.

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  17. JoeMeek says:

    All bow, both men and women, to Her Royal Majesty, the Queen of Hearts Nancy Pelosi, absolute ruler of the House of the Insane and its Royal Kangaroo Court and Royal Lynch Mob!!! I am all but certain the Founding Fathers would join in this tribute to her if they weren’t so otherwise occupied turning over on the graves.

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  18. Bogeyfree says:

    Who is the swing vote in the SC Court now??

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  19. myrightpenguin says:

    Have they kept her in the State Dept. for strategic reasons, or is it that hard to fire government employees?

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  20. Kelly says:

    Lindsey Graham should call in
    Volker an Sondland if he wants Rudy
    to be questioned by his committee.
    Jordan, meadows, etc. said if people were
    able to read the whole transcript it would exonerate PDJT . Graham can go over
    ALL of the text messages an more.

    This way people can hear the truth
    and the msm/DemRats can’t shut out what they are doing now!

    But Lindsey Graham you can’t use your
    famous line about waiting till the IG
    Report is released!!! Do it for the 95%
    of the GOP that supports our PDJT an
    have had ENOUGH of this bs!!!

    These rats are not friends to you
    (Graham) or our country ! They
    are trying to tear up the constitution
    written by our founding fathers so
    they can write their own!

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  21. To erode the Constitution they have to attack it. Even when they lose they will keep coming. Keep attacking different portions of it like a virus.

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  22. Bogeyfree says:

    Can PT’s lawyers in the Senate discovery phase, declassify and review as possible evidence all of Schiff, Burr, Pelosi and Warner emails, texts and calls?

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  23. Bogeyfree says:

    Don’t you think AG Barr knows tonight, if PT has been totally framed or not?

    If you think, he thinks, PT has been framed, my question is how can he allow a sitting President who he knows has been framed to be subjected to this fraud?

    Don’t you think he would drop a bombshell or two of some evidence that supports this whole thing has been a setup from the beginning to shut this down?

    Even if he doesn’t have all the evidence properly packaged, will he really allow this fraud to move to a Constitutional Crisis or a house floor vote knowing it’s a coup, a fraud, a setup?

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  24. thedoc00 says:

    Note that Romania, Kazakhstan, and other nations are arms dealer clearing house locations as well as transit points for allot of money making illegal activities. Big dollars involved.

    Just wondering if the somebody has finally decided to deploy information contained in the Panama Papers ??

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  25. Sherri Young says:

    Speaking of Romania…

    This piece lists out a rogue’s gallery of individuals funded by Soros and NGOs that are Soros entities. Read some of this and you will soon get a sense of the multi-pronged attack Soros and his surrogates launched to get and maintain control in Romania.

    https://katehon.com/article/soros-reign-romanian-example

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  26. Soldier/Cop/Grunt, Retired says:

    The current squabble between Nancy Pelosi and Donald Trump reminds me of an experience in the mid-1970’s in Panama while serving as the Provost Marshal for the Pacific side of the Canal Zone. Little Jimmy Carter was in the midst of giving away the Panama Canal and like the current democrats he had his little freedom fighters running around demonstrating for ‘justice and the American way’ to pressure the Zonians and the Congress to make way for his sham of a treaty. In addition to generally behaving as little pests by demonstrating at the gates and/or actually entering our military installations, they were distracting us from dealing with what the Panamanian government wanted us to think was Cuban terrorists. The so-called terrorists were being a little more than pests in that they were setting bombs here and there causing a bit of stress among the local zonians and the military dependents. Shortly before my arrival in 1975, a new US Attorney had arrived in the Zone. He was fresh out of the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department and it was obvious he had instructions to do his part to keep the pressure on to speed up getting Jimmy’s treaty on the table. My boss (the Canal Zone Command Provost Marshal) was a mean old airborne ranger colonel turned military policeman (MP) only after 15 years in the infantry. On the day I arrived in the Zone he told me the reason he had selected me was because of my infantry experience. In the next breath he told me he wanted Jimmy’s little pests cleared out and the terrorists negated straight away. We started two days later detaining all civilian demonstrators for 72 hours in our stockade before releasing them with a criminal trespass notice and the suggestion that they catch the next flight stateside. Side Note: Without getting into any embarrassing details the last two bombings occurred within four weeks of my arrival. Following the old colonel’s tactics to the letter the terrorists seemed to have received religion and returned to Cuba? Do not know why it took the US Attorney over a month to get wind of the military locking civilians in our stockade for 72 hours, but within my first month he arrived in the colonel’s office in a rather agitated condition. He demanded that we cease locking up civilians and only he could order his US marshals to detain civilians. The old colonel pulled out a book and read the Internal Security Act of 1951 to the US Attorney. The act provided that any US Army officer in the rank of major or above could detain a civilian breaching the security of a military installation and/or interfering in military operations for up to 72 hours. The US Attorney said he did not care about the law and tried to order the colonel to stop detaining civilians or else. The colonel looked at me and asked how many MP’s did I have. After I replied that had I 549 duty MP’s, the colonel turned to the US Attorney and asked him how many US marshals he had (he did not answer but we knew he had six). The colonel then told the US Attorney he should submit his complaint to the Attorney General or the Secretary of Defense and wished him good day. Think Donald should ask Nancy how many cops/soldiers she has?

    Soldier/Cop/Grunt, Retired

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    • And S/C/G/retired…You have hit the nail SQUARELY ON THE HEAD. That is why PDJT had the US Marine’s activation order re-done so they could be CALLED TO ACTIVE DUTY IN A MOMENTS NOTICE. Everyone keeps forgetting…THE US MARINES ARE THE PRESIDENT’S OWN and it is for that REASON!!!

      Besides, there is/are retired military who can/will goto DC to support this PRESIDENT!!!…

      All this talk about what Pelosi/Nadler and everybody else is a waste of time reading. The US Military HAS the President’s back and the SUPREME COURT will NOT side with the DEMS due to the fact that:

      THIS PROCESS IS NOT FOLLOWING THE RULE OF LAW AND THE SUPREMES KNOW THAT IF THEY DON’T FOLLOW THE RULE OF LAW THERE WILL BE ANARCHY!!! The Supremes will go down as the Court that stripped the RULE-of-LAW away from the United States of America. and NO Supreme Court member wants to be remembered of letting that HAPPEN.

      Side NOTE: This PRESIDENT WILL NOT LET THIS COUNTRY SLIDE INTO SOMETHING THE DEMS WANT. It is wishful thinking that they can cause a constitutional crisis.

      NOTE: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-115
      18 U.S. Code CHAPTER 115— TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES ..

      Causing a constitutional crisis to OVERTHROW A DULY ELECTED GOVERNMENT falls under the above!!!

      S/C/G/retired—Apologize for this but it needed to be said and stopping of the hand-wringing…

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      • Subversive alone is enough cause to stop them, hard and cold. But, as good as yours and SGR’s comments are, and they are very good, the nad wringing here won’t even slow down.

        Those clutching pearls can’t let go, and Eeyore’s gotta Eeyore.

        I’m learning that the hard way…

        Carry On Sirs.

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    • Linda says:

      Thank you for your service! Sounds like we could use that colonel in our fight right now.

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  27. Sun Yat Sen says:

    Not sure how relevant this is, but Guccifer is from Romania

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    • tav144 says:

      Didn’t the FBI go over there where he’s in prison and try to get him to lie and take the blame saying he was the one who hacked Hillary’s emails? I really recall reading that…..And he told th no….Then next thing you know, out of the woodwork pops up Guccifer 2 (which is believed to be a deep state construct).

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  28. j'accuse says:

    The degree to which members of congress, government officials and lawyers, and the intellectual elite have rationalized that Trump poses such an existential threat that all means of artifice, deception, underhandedness, secrecy, abandonment of professionalism, violation of oath,subversion of law and abuse of the justice system are justified is unprecedented in the nation’s history and truly astonishing to me as a citizen. American politics has always been highly partisan with accusations of wrong doing, cycles of investigations and raging controversies. But never have ordinary ethics, morality and sense of fairness been abandoned to this extent in pursuit of a political objective. A government where this behavior is tolerated an any level and not exposed and punished is no longer serving the people.

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  29. Lee Moore says:

    But where does “Judicial Authority” spring from even if the House chooses to grant it ? Is there an actual law (ie statute) that allows the House to grant itself or its Committees “judicial authority” ? Certainly the Constitution says nothing about it.

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    • ristvan says:

      Have explained this before a few days ago.

      It has long been well established by SCOTUS that Congress has lawful (judicial authority) subpoena powers pursuant to its implied responsibility of legislative oversight. BUT that only applies to the items enumerated in A1§8. Neither foreign policy (Ukraine) nor impeachment have any nexus to A1§8. So, for example, Schiffs Intelligence committee has no judicially enforceable subpoena power in the matters he pretends to be investigating.

      It was separately established bu SCOTUS during the Nixon impeachment investigation that IF the full House votes to have the Judiciary Committee commence an impeachment investigation, then Judiciary (only) has subpoena power that can also overcome executive privilege claims. There has been no such vote.

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  30. Aintree says:

    Politics in a 2 party democracy is bound to be vicious and ugly at times especially when the stakes are so high. But the hate filled Democrat party has crossed into an evil world of politics that only the crazed or the cruel choose to travel. Most sane people have a conscience or the wisdom or “faith” that restrains them before they cross such a perilous line.

    The MSM is doing the nation a terrible disservice by portraying these evil Dem deeds and actions as just or righteous and that P Trump’s innocuous phone call is a justified impeachable offense. This recent egregious media fraud on the public is something only genuine enemies of the people would willingly promote on a mass scale.

    Some pollsters (blame or) allege that “suburban women” were the deciding voters that gave the Dems the House in 2018 because their lying Dem Rep candidates promised their gullible voters that they’d concentrate their efforts on Health Care and other important family issues rather than attacking P Trump. I wonder if any of these Dem voters are pleased with how these 2018 promises are working out for them. If POTUS wasn’t great at his job, even when he’s under constant attack, the families of these suburban women would be far worse off. Watching the evil deeds of the “Do Nothing But Impeachment Party” every day is a definite health hazard.

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  31. hudsonthedog says:

    This has become a race between Pelosi/Schiff and Barr/Durham. The Ruling Class knows how many skeletons are in their closets, and they sense Barr will expose a significant chunk of it. Barr/Durham are realizing the corruption and conspiracy at the top of government is so vast it may take years to uncover and prosecute. It is like a major RICO case with hundreds of persons involved.

    Pelosi is short-cutting the normal impeachment process, as Sundance has so ably described, because if Barr comes out with his case first, the Ruling Class will be severely damaged and loose more support of voters. They have already realized they cannot beat Trump in the election with their ragtag band of candidates. Their fear is that they could also lose the House once the corruption is exposed.

    Barr/Durham are trying to work deliberately and carefully, but there are too many threads to unravel and they are hampered by corruption at the FBI, CIA, State Department etc. which forces them personally obtain evidence in many instances. One of Pelosi’s aims with fast track impeachment is to force Barr to end his investigation prematurely and thereby limit the bleeding among the ruling class.

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  32. frank field says:

    Cleverly evil. They are. The subversion and coup of a great nation, great peoples, great president.

    Question: If God is for us, who can be against us?

    Trump for Rushmore 👓

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  33. Bryan Alexander says:

    I distinctly remember some comments after the 2018 Mid-Terms about how losing the House of Representatives was not that big a deal. “We have the Senate and the White House, let them have the House….”.

    I commented then that it was a disaster. So, was it?

    In the past 3 years we have discovered:

    – The leadership at the FBI took prima facia evidence of violations of 18 US Code 793(f) by Hillary Clinton and her aides, presented it to the American public, and said “We will not prosecute this”. To this day, this still might be the most astonishing thing I have ever witnessed from a law enforcement official. In retrospect, this was a clear indicator of the utter corruption in the FBI and Justice Department that we did not yet understand.

    – The Email Records of Hillary Clinton were subpoenaed legally. There was no court challenge that the subpoena was illegal. She, and her legal and political team, attempted to destroy tens of thousands of these emails, in DIRECT VIOLATION of Federal law. To this day, no one has been charged with Obstruction of Justice, Destruction of Federal Records, or Perjury in this case.

    – A laptop computer with HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of Hillary Clinton’s emails, some of which contained classified information, was discovered. This prima facia evidence of violations of 18 US Code 793(f) was also ignored and discarded.

    – The Obama Administration use the most sophisticated electronic surveillance system in the world to illegally spy on his political opposition. This is not opinion. There have been 2 judges now that have indicated that VAST numbers of illegal searches were done of the FISA database. 20 years ago the ACLU and various other Civil Liberty Groups would have led the charge to tar and feather the government officials who participated in this. Now, all you get is a deafening silence

    – Senior Member of the Obama Administration planned and participated in a manufactured coup against the incoming President Elect. They used American Intelligence Assets (like Stephan Halper) to plant and set up false stories against Trump campaign officials.

    – Senior FBI personnel lied repeatedly to the the FISA Court in order to gain “legal” cover for their illegal activities.

    – Government Officials have repeatedly leaked classified government documents without reprisal.

    – The Constitutionally protected American Press has taken sides, politically, and have aided and abetted the dissemination of known false information in order to weaken and take down the President.

    Now, the House of Representatives is poised to:

    – Obtain secret testimony from unnamed witnesses who are reporting 2nd hand information which was classified information illegally leaked.

    – Use the testimony of witnesses being protected by an Inspector General who changed and backdated rules in order to shield the identity of the person trying to reveal classified information.

    – Draw up Articles of Impeachment in secret without input from the minority party.

    – Present the Articles of Impeachment for a House Vote without allowing the President or the other political party to subpoena documents and/or witnesses.

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    • Doppler says:

      Good list, BA. But the loss of the House didn’t cause any of this, except the last four, the opening salvos in Impeachgate. The Impeachment Platform will provide a global platform for the fight to the death between Trump and the Deep State, with the MSM spending the last full ounce of its credibility in the effort. If Trump wins in the Senate, then leads a landslide reelction filling both houses with pro-MAGAites, then he will have delivered on his promise to drain the Swamp. I think he’s playing for keeps.

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  34. KAR says:

    Please excuse full-blown incomprehension, but if this whole “impeachment” charade isn’t even legal, ie no Judicial Authority, why doesn’t Trump just ignore it? I mean, what if he and his cabinet etc just never said a word about it nor did anything in response to it? What could Nazi Pelosi do?

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  35. L. E. Joiner says:

    Writes Sundance:

    …The reason judicial authority is constitutionally required, is because creating Judicial authority, gives the Executive Branch a process to appeal any legislative demand via the Judicial Branch (federal courts)….

    Where in the Constitution is ‘judicial authority’ mentioned? The Congress has the authority to ‘constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court’, but aside from making laws and impeachment, has no other judicial functions. It’s not even clear to me where the extra-judicial authority for committees of the Congress to issue subpoenas comes from.

    From what I’ve read so far, aside from Due Process entitled to every citizen, the main argument of the President’s lawyers for a full House vote relies on precedent, which is significant, but Granny Pelosi can ignore that if she wants. It’s not binding. /LEJ

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    • ristvan says:

      There are only two ways Congress can get one of its subpoenas enforced.
      1. Federal court civil contempt—fines
      2. Federal court criminal contempt—jail
      There is Theoretically a third, ‘inherent contempt’ enforced by the House Sargent at Arms. Is very political and impractical. Was last used (and abused) in 1934. See McGrain v Daugherty 275US135 as limited by In re Chapman 166US661. SCOTUS would likely reverse McGrain were inherent contempt be tried Under present circumstances.

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      • L. E. Joiner says:

        Thanks, Ristvan, for the clarification. I assume that means to enforce a subpoena, Congress has to actually file a claim in court, much as a private party would. But I still don’t understand what Sundance is saying about ‘judicial authority’. /LEJ

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        • sundance says:

          Judicial Authority = Legislative authority (compulsion/subpoena) enforceable by the judicial branch.

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          • L. E. Joiner says:

            Ah, in your newest post you explain it more thoroughly:

            There is an elevated level of subpoena, made power possible by SCOTUS precedent, that carries inherent penalties for non-compliance, and is specifically allowed for impeachment investigations. That level of elevated House authority requires a full House authorization vote.

            In this current example the Legislative Branch is expressing their “impeachment authority” as part of the Legislative Branch purpose. So that raises the issue of an entirely different type of subpoena:… A demand from congress that penetrates the constitutional separation of powers; and further penetrates the legal authority of Executive Branch executive privilege.

            It was separately established by SCOTUS during the Nixon impeachment investigation that *IF* the full House votes to have the Judiciary Committee commence an impeachment investigation, then Judiciary (only) has subpoena power that can overcome executive privilege claims. [my emphasis]

            There has been NO VOTE to create that level of subpoena power.

            I did not understand the need for a House vote for the inquiry that was based in anything more than House Rules precedent, which you have repeatedly pointed out, Pelossi changed. But here you identify an arguably Constitutional requirement made explicit by the Supreme Court in the Nixon impeachment. If you’re right, this is an important point: Absent a full vote, could not the Supreme Court reject any subpoena enforcement by the House?

            Of course, Pelossi may not care. If she can get the sham ‘Articles’ out of the Intel and Judiciary committees, and then get 218 Democrats to vote for them, qua Articles, then it goes to the Senate, where McConnell says he has to have a trial. The President is tarnished, and the Dems can scream ‘criminal! criminal!’ all through the 2020 campaign. /LEJ

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  36. Stoledotom says:

    Watch President Trumps rally in Minnesota tonight. That will surly reflect how eschewed the polls are, including Fox.

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  37. wodiej says:

    Any Republican, not including traitor Mitt, who would vote for impeachment would be committing political suicide. I don’t believe even all democrats would vote for it. It’s pure craziness.

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  38. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    Regarding politicians interfering in other nations affairs is there anyone in modern times more obvious than the evil democrat braggart Mrs. Bill Clinton?

    October 2011

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  39. Oldretiredguy says:

    Regardless of the current impeachment scam, just the fact that one of the two major political parties would go to these extremes to overturn the will of the voters is enough to convince me there probably is no coming back from this. Even if PDT is re-elected in 2020 (and I hope he is) half of the nation is being led to believe that the will of the American voters does not matter. This is how nations fail. There probably won’t be a shooting civil war, but the instability created by this current political crisis is more than enough to eventually erode the confidence in the American system. It’s been said for years by people a whole lot smarter than me that the only way America falls will be from within. Well, here we are. There can be no “Uniter in Chief” from either political party. The current system has been corrupted to the point that there would have to be maybe 30 or 40 criminal convictions of actors from the last disastrous administration to salvage the nation and I don’t see that happening.

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  40. Doppler says:

    Does anyone else recall the time prior to the 2014 coup that toppled Ukraine’s pro-Russia President, and whether energy supplies from Europe vs Russia being an issue? I seem to recall reading after the coup, that what bothered the US and EU was not the corruption, but that Ukraine was being offered cheaper gas from Russia, like 2/3ds the cost, and their President was inclined to take that offer, before being run out of office, by a coup planned by neocon Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland (see her taped cellphone call plotting the overthrow on Youtube). Any Ukraine experts out there who can flesh out the record? Ah, from google, here’s what I was remembering, from https://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/mar/06/ukraine-crisis-great-power-oil-gas-rivals-pipelines

    “The move [a $10B contract with Chevron to explore for shale gas deposits in Ukraine] coincided with Ukraine’s efforts to ‘cement closer relations with the European Union at Russia’s expense’, through a prospective trade deal that would be a step closer to Ukraine’s ambitions to achieve EU integration. But Yanukovych’s decision to abandon the EU agreement in favour of Putin’s sudden offer of a 30% cheaper gas bill and a $15 billion aid package provoked the protests.

    “To be sure, the violent rioting was triggered by frustration with Yanukovych’s rejection of the EU deal, along with rocketing energy, food and other consumer bills, linked to Ukraine’s domestic gas woes and abject dependence on Russia. Police brutality to suppress what began as peaceful demonstrations was the last straw.”

    Is it possible the coup in the first place was designed to allow Burisma to block this cheaper Russian gas and to profit it from higher gas prices? That would certainly pay for a lot of politically connected board members.

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