Trey Gowdy Warns Everyone to Lower Their Expectations…

Former congressman Trey Gowdy warns everyone to tamp down expectations from the IG report on FISA abuse. One point of focus from Horowitz’s letter today is that he *only* looked at the singular FISA issues surrounding Carter Page, nothing more.

…”Relating to a certain U.S. person.”

Therefore if Carter Page was not a victim; meaning if Carter Page was an active participant (mole) in the FBI operation – willing to be the vehicle by which the Steele Dossier could be injected into the investigation; then there will likely be no criminal conduct outlined by Horowitz.  The head of the tick-tock club was not happy with this possibility.

…”to a certain U.S. person”…

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452 Responses to Trey Gowdy Warns Everyone to Lower Their Expectations…

  1. JunkerGeorg says:


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    • SwampRatTerrier says:

      Tor is his middle name.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Bill Durham says:

        I have been saying for years that hannity and the tic toc club are going to have their Rachel maddow moment. Note how the closer we get to the report, they are back tracking on all their bold predictions. They put their faith in Mueller. We put our faith in Horowitz. We are as dumb as an MSNBC or CNN audience. We got snookered. Or rather, you got snookered because I saw this coming. And for that I was called an eyeore and a concern troll. Those who said that can first apologize to me and then bite me. And go pound sand. I hope hannity ratings collapse. Solomon, Carter, and digenova are conspiracy frauds who should consider other lines of work. They perpetrated a fraud on their audience. Hannity wanted to milk this for 6 more years. They are scrambling to find an excuse. 4 illegal fisa warrants???? LoL!

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    • JL says:

      It’s always a good idea to keep expectations under control. But the same language was used when the IG announced the investigation 18 months ago. He explained the scope of the investigation at the time.

      The IG announcement is available here:

      Here it is, quoted:

      March 28, 2018

      DOJ OIG Announces Initiation of Review

      Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz announced today
      that, in response to requests from the Attorney General and Members of Congress, the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) will initiate a review that will examine the Justice Department’s and the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) compliance with legal requirements, and with applicable DOJ and FBI policies and procedures, in applications filed with the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) relating to a certain U.S. person. As part of this examination, the OIG also will review information that was known to the DOJ and the FBI at the time the applications were filed from or about an alleged FBI confidential source. Additionally, the OIG will review the DOJ’s and FBI’s relationship and communications with the alleged source as they relate to the FISC applications.

      If circumstances warrant, the OIG will consider including other issues that may arise
      during the course of the review.

      Like I said, it’s good to not let expectations get out of control. But the IG has stated that over a million documents were reviewed and more than a hundred witnesses were interviewed.

      I think it’s safe to say that other issues arose during the course of the review.

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  2. jackjoe says:

    George Webb has been calling this for over a year. He has broke this scenario down on several of his videos on youtube.

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  3. Muthaucker says:

    I thought there were 4 FISA warrants on that certain US person….

    Liked by 5 people

    • Linda K. says:

      I thought they were breaking the law. So, Carter Page was a particpant the whole time? You can’t have a fraudulent FISA in order to spy on a presidential candidate. Comey lied to Trump. These justice officials run the country apparently. Is that where we are now?

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      • sysconfig says:

        I always found it odd that little if any attention was paid to his second meeting at the CRAASH Conference with Atlantic Council Madelline Albright Richard Dearlove and The Never Trumper Webber guy..whos firm was under “scrutiny” by Mueller..but nothing happened to him..and where he ” met ” Halper..on the sidelines. This followed his Moscow meeting just days before..I tweeted him about that around a year was odd for a setup but normal if you wanted to share notes with the team..and if in fact He was a mole..without being obvious..he was never even acknowledged publicly as he was on the transition team.and Transition teams were discussed at the event..but he never answered.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      1 warrant
      3 renewals


  4. Tl Howard says:

    But was a fraud on the court still perpetrated? And was it for an unlawful purpose?

    Liked by 6 people

    • noswamp says:

      Roosterhead indicates that there is no remedy to what occurred. Hannity disagreed. And Hannity is correct even showing Roosterhead to the point where Roosterhead had to admit on Hannity’s show that it was a criminal violation of sect. 1983.

      Stay tuned folks, the DOJ is sending this out to see if the Patriots will react.

      They have no idea how bad this will be for Trump if nothing happens. People like me may just stay home for 2020. I am serious. Of course, this is what they want. But Trump is the President: ENFORCE THE RULE OF LAW , please.

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  5. Zorro says:

    White Hats do not make the playoffs this year. Deep Staters have number 1 seed.

    Liked by 6 people

  6. Jim in TN says:

    Well, Gowdy would be the one to know when nothing is going to be the end result of all the investigations.

    Liked by 12 people

  7. L4grasshopper says:

    “Therefore if Carter Page was not a victim; meaning if Carter Page was an active participant (mole) in the FBI operation – willing to be the vehicle by which the Steele Dossier could be injected into the investigation; then there will likely be no criminal conduct outlined by Horowitz.”
    Even if Page *willingly* worked with the FBI to fake a justification for a Title 1 warrant that provided a legal excuse to surveil — spy — on the Trump campaign…….

    Isn’t this still a fraud on the FISA Court and illegal? That is, all of the American citizens spied on thru Page were still illegally spied on, because the entire construct was a fraud.

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    • Revenant says:

      Right, that would make Page just a straw. That’s not the intent of the law, and in any event, such wasn’t disclosed to the FISA court.

      Liked by 10 people

      • Austin Holdout says:

        Maybe we’ll learn from Horowicz that they DID tell the FISA court Page was a willing participant. Remember the criminal cabal was made up of all insiders and they had a couple of years to craft the coup. I’m trying to stay hopeful that there will be some justice but can’t help but think of how brazen and smug all of the participants are.

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      Further… actually would be a worse crime for the FBI to lie to the FISA Court with a willing accomplice in order to spy on the Trump campaign. There is still no predicate for spying on Trump. No “probable cause”. Page being part of any scam actually makes it worse — it completely destroys any semblance of justification to spy on Trump.

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      • SteveT says:

        It would make Page a part of the conspiracy against everyone illegally spied on. It would make the conspirators guilty of knowingly trying to frame President Trump.
        It would be an admission of a fabricated frame-up, with no predicate. Therefore all the lying would also have no legal basis, because they KNEW it was an illegal frame-up.


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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        Not to mention.

        Wasn’t Robert Mueller HIMSELF called to the mat by the FISA court in 2003 ITSELF

        for playing fast and loose with the FISA process by seeking a warrant on an FBI CHS?

        Didn’t that result in the WOODS PROCEDURE being implemented in the first place?

        I’m sorry…..I don’t think this is Gowdy giving us a “heads up” as much as it is doing Comey’s work for him: “pre-spinning”

        Hannity has to tell him what crime was committed????
        Gimme a break.

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      • Kleen says:

        We are dealing with slick lawyers that can hide under classified information. Not only that, but they make the rules. These dangerous criminals have been ruling the agencies for many decades. They shaped them to serve themselves.

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    • bofh says:

      Nothing to see here… move along, says Trey. I seem to remember that Trey Gowdy didn’t find much of anything wrong with Benghazi either.

      Liked by 18 people

    • Will says:

      Exactly. And if Carter Page and the FBI “colluded” to spy on members of the Trump campaign through this fraudulent FISA warrant, THAT is a criminal conspiracy. The four government employees who signed that FISA warrant swore the content of the warrant was verified–that Page was a Russian agent. Comey and the others knew that the information was not verified, knew it was paid for by Hillary, and knew that Steele was politically motivated.

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    • JL says:

      The Woods procedures require the FBI to disclose all prior and current relationships thhey have with the subject of a FISA warrant application. They certified at the end of each application, explicitly under the penalty of perjury, that they complied with Woods procedures, and then someone signed their name.

      So yes, it would be fraud, amongst other crimes, if Carter Page did what you suggest, and the FBI did not disclose that to the court.

      I highly doubt the FBI told the court that they were wiretapping their own asset that the FBI inserted into the Trump campaign.

      I think it’s entirely possible that there was funny business going on between Carter page and the FBI. It’s also entirely possible there wasn’t. We’ll have to wait and see on that one.

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    • Kleen says:

      It sounds like they hide under secrecy.

      Everything about Counterintelligence and FISC is so secretive that they can just make stories up and we will never know. And it will be redacted for sure. We will just have to take their word for it.

      They can always pull off some exception to the rule and justify what they did. These are slick lawyers. They make the rules.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      I agree.

      Not seeing AT ALL how this is legal.

      If you can’t get a surveillance warrant on your intended target you can go to a judge and say
      “we’re using this other guy–who is a willing participant– because we can’t get probable cause (legal predicate) on our REAL target”??

      Better yet, using SD’s real reason for the FISA it becomes…..

      “your honor we’re using the FISA process on a CHS so we can get the Steele Dossier legitimized because we can’t do it any other way”

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    • beach lover says:

      But, if you put this in perspective of it being something they( the O administration ) had been doing all along.. the using of Page to get to Trump wasnt such a far fetched ploy.

      Plus, add to that, the main feeling that Hillary was gonna win. I think it is really just a matter of spying for spying sake. Can’t have enough dirt on your opponents, as far as the dims and deep staters are concerned. They really thought Trump would turn up something they could use.


      • YL Calif says:

        Obama, Clapper, Brennan, etc. were using the “Hammer” to spy on anyone of interest.
        But that was illegal.
        They needed to create the optics of legal collection by using their asset (Carter Page) via the FISA court.


  8. Heika says:

    This is how it works folks.

    It’s called ‘divide and conquer’.

    In that – in the swamp, when there is an historical conspiracy to overthrow the sitting president (let alone what happened prior), what you do, is you ‘divide’ every single piece of everything (crimes) up into microcosms – and then you water them down until they have no meaning any longer as they are detached from the whole picture… a little bit of Page, a little bit of Papadopolus, Comey, and a grain of Andy…on it goes. Then you get a professional scum lawyer to take each grain of the many, and then fight that one grain ALONE on its standing (which it has none because it was never done in isolation right?), then you push the rest of the million parts down the road, and you just take one small bit at a time and you put it in a washing machine, you throw some bits under the rug, you push it into the tube of ‘proper process’, and on it goes… you have adherence to the letter of the law, BECAUSE the whole thing is shattered into meaningless pieces, and spread out over such a long time it becomes impotent and irrelevant (harmless).

    That is ‘divide and conquer’ and it has all been done before. For example whatever your beliefs on 9/11, the metaphor was when all the rubble and waste was picked up in record speed and ‘scattered to the wind’ for ever never to be examined.

    That is the MO of the swamp. Full stop.

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    • Heika says:

      And we forget … many people in the beltway get rich upon this very ‘sausage machine process’. There are many vested interests in the process areas… (not even politically motivated!). One think I know about bureaucracy for sure; those in it have a purpose, however the folks in bureaucracy are generally not open to risking their security of tenure in those roles. By nature they are not risk takers, they are not the entrepreneurs of the world they are the keepers of ‘the status quo’. Hence they have a very large vested interest in smashing a ‘big picture’ into millions of parts – details details details, are what keeps them employed. Red tape and details are what has created the monster that the DC (government machine) is. In order to justify their existence they will work hard to split up the shelling of a pea into 20 processes.

      They don’t like Trump of course because he is a big picture dude, and would like to ‘cut costs’ but because Trump has faith in delegation – he will be frustrated until the day he gets on his ship and sails off into the sunset by this mess.

      In all this (in all the investigations), tell me WHO (with the hand and reach of the countries law) – is looking at the larger picture of all of these working parts?

      NO one. Each one has been given one shard to examine. It is like grinding a cow and then trying to reconstruct it to its original form. That hard, that frustrating.

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    • joebkonobi says:

      You nailed it Heika. They have split the “investigations” (phony) into pieces as opposed to looking at the interrelations between the origin, crossfire hurricane, fisa abuse, Clinton emails and Comey to further distort and confuse. Piecemeal approach. Sad part is the we all knew all along the DOJ/FBI/IC Community could not investigate itself. Chalk one up for the swamp. I wanted to have faith in Barr but seems he is a lost cause and member of the swamp brigade. Our Justice system has been turned on it’s head and ay never recover.

      Judicial Watch will possibly eventually get to the truth but will be any years down the road.

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      • underwhelmingposter says:

        Ms. Powell brings up all of that in her filings on behalf of Flynn. It continues to make me think she has a bigger picture in mind. She has been talking about DOJ ethics issues for decades. Now she is fighting a part of it, but employs a wide swath of pertinent information.

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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        But this doesn’t work on the FISA investigation.

        The FISA PROCESS is specifically designed to root out distortion, confusion and mistakes (intended or unintended)

        It’s redundancy through the Woods Procedure is to insure that nothing slips through.
        The affiant signing under penalty of perjury and bringing before a judge is the ACCOUNTABILITY via CONSEQUENCES if you don’t follow the procedure.

        As a stand alone case this one is straight forward.


    • A Moderate Man says:

      Wow, Heika, that description leaves us folks in the flyover states feeling pretty awful. I believe Comey is an advanced expert in the process you describe.

      Thanks for your post though.

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  9. rayvandune says:

    Gowdy should charge his hair with treason!

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  10. rayvandune says:

    Gowdy should charge his hair with treason!


  11. visage13 says:

    I am not going to be happy with that either, if this report doesn’t lead anywhere then what is next and what the hell have we been waiting on for 2 years? I mean really this just gets more ridiculous by the day.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Pa Hermit says:

      Ever notice the deep state always has get out of jail free cards to play, but judgement is fast and furious for those non deep staters? Plus, the more power one wields, the more protection one gets. We have to pull hen’s teeth to get anyone on the Left to get thrown under the bus, or be a sacrificial lamb.

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  12. AccountabilityPlease says:

    I have no doubt that Carter Page’s true role has yet to be revealed. Every time he has been asked to express his outrage, his response has been underwhelming to say the least. If I was subjected to illegal surveillance, my outrage would be apparent to everyone and you would know of my plans to make the responsible parties pay dearly. Page’s response? “Oh, I just want peace on Earth. I don’t want any money.” The guy is a FLAKE!

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  13. Bill says:

    If page was in cahoots, wouldn’t that just add him to the indictment roster? I mean, that doesn’t mean what they did was legal. In fact, wouldn’t that be even GREATER EVIDENCE of a coup? Am I reading this wrong? If someone is allowed to say, ok, you can spy on me to get close to a presidential campaign, then why wouldn’t the IC use this tactic on every single case they need a FISA warrant?

    Confusing reasoning for this not being criminal.

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      That’s how I see it.

      It also destroys whatever remaining justification being alleged to spy on Trump campaign, because if Page is an accomplice, then there is zero evidentiary predicate for the spying.

      Liked by 8 people

    • tav144 says:

      What is being said is this.
      On THIS issue….. obtaining a FISA warrant to spy on an American citizen, the govt did NOT violate his 4th amendment constitutional rights.
      That in a nutshell, is the main issue the IG is looking at in this FISA investigation. So on this, if Page was a willing participant, there isn’t a violation….
      That doesn’t mean what these officials did was legal. It makes Page an accomplice and co-conspirator in sedition, conspiracy against the U.S., etc.

      It just means that if you limit the focus of an investigation so narrowly, you’re only permitted to come to a conclusion on that narrow topic.

      Hopefully Durham will produce the Kraken.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      “Your honor……we have no evidence to get a surveillance warrant and you would never approve one ON OUR INTENDED TARGET so instead…….

      Carter Page says we can spy on him so we can spy our intended target that way.”

      Hell of an argument to make to a judge.
      Cannot see in any way that that is a legitimate use of FISA TITLE I

      Can’t wait to see how Horowitz pulls that one off if indeed that’s what he even did.

      Especially when DJT can RECALL HIS DECLASSIFICATION AUTHORITY and start declassifying all the documents behind this.

      And there is NO LEGITIMATE NATIONAL SECURITY REASON to deny their release:
      After all
      CONFIRMING 1) AND 2)

      In short what is the argument to keep documents classified about a FANTASY?


      • CountryDoc says:

        Good perspective. Even the intelligent appearing, articulate, republicans and lawyers are grasping at straws’s of desperation to try and explain things. Their cohesion is breaking apart. The synergy of their narratives is becoming chaotic.

        This is why we must become even more suspicious. They will do desperate things, stray further from moral principles, take bigger risks.

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      • ozymandiasssss says:

        “Carter Page says we can spy on him so we can spy our intended target that way.” That’s really funny, Krash, you got a belly laugh out of me there, but yeah unfortunately I think it is going to end up being a version of that

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        • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

          I’m not saying Horowitz won’t report that they SAID THAT
          I”m saying BARR won’t accept that excuse.
          He can’t.

          It literally answers “the Question” that brought all the heat down on Barr from Day One.

          “Was there SPYING?” (Political Surveillance)

          For it would confirm:
          They weren’t surveilling THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN (Carter Page is half of that story, the other being PapaD)

          They were surveilling TRUMP himself
          And there was no proper predicate for it.

          So they had to first RUN A COUNTERINTELLIGENCE OPERATION on
          in order to run one on THEIR INTENDED TARGET HIMSELF.

          And even if Carter Page was actually a “willing participant” to use the FISA process to insert the Steele Dossier as SD suggests
          (A suggestion I believe)
          By now admitting Carter Page was “an agent” all along—

          Exposes the fact that they had absolutely NO LEGITIMATE PREDICATE to surveil Trump AT ALL.
          Their predicate WAS the info from the Steele Dossier that they couldn’t VERIFY and in fact were WARNED about.
          IF they had any belief that the Steele Dossier was REAL they wouldn’t need a Carter Page FISA Warrant Operation to begin with.
          In short….
          They’re admitting they knew all along the Dossier was bullshit.


  14. RKV says:

    So, how many other FISA warrants are there, and who else in the Trump campaign was spied on directly or via the two hop rule (using cutouts if needed to get there)?

    Liked by 2 people

    • Maggie Gray says:

      Important point, RKV. The Carter Page FISA perhaps was not meant for actual spying, they had other resources. It was needed primarily to launder the Steele dossier on to the investigative track.


  15. Zy says:

    It’s sucks knowing the likes of Bromwich and all the other Lawfarers and Deep Staters are laughing their asses off at us.

    Liked by 7 people

  16. appraisher says:

    If there was a way for a Bush appointee (Horowitz) to weasel out, the Swamp would find it for him. Can’t expect any actual justice to come out of DC…especially after 8 years of Obama’s Shuck & Jive around the Constitution.

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  17. Neil M. Dunn says:

    First blush: sounds like the two-tiered justice “system” is going to remain intact.

    Liked by 4 people

  18. cheryl says:

    Carter Page was a willing stooge. Doesn’t change what was done.

    Liked by 8 people

  19. Baby El says:

    So its “Wait for the investigation”..
    But we didn’t really investigate anyone…
    Because we were told not to.
    So no illegal conduct occurred.

    F**K Waiting for a stupid arse report. Investigate the F*ing crimes!!!!!

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  20. Carrie says:

    This is how we all know the FISA court should be disbanded. It was probably created for good intentions (genuine counter-terrorism), but now it is a malicious political animal. We know this because no one has been brought back before the court for contempt charges! Gowdy has mentioned many times that they have this power, but they choose not to exercise it (or Roberts is encouraging them not too???) what was the point of your 99 page report Judge Collyer if you choose to do nothing about it?
    And on a side note, even if Carter Page was a willing participant-he was practically an employee of the FBI. That’s entrapment. It doesn’t appear that Papadopoulus, Flynn or Sessions (?) were willing participants-were they? So how does an FBI informant suddenly legitimize the FISA warrants when the main goal was to penetrate communication within PDJT’s immediate team? That still has to be a crime.
    In the end of the day, for the love of Pete, can we get the documents declassified so we can see exactly what went on? The spotlight is on you now-Mr. Barr!

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  21. MAGADJT says:

    Unless we march in the streets en masse and protest over this, then this travesty will just come and go like flatulence in wind. Thing is, our side will not do that, or not enough of us anyway.

    Liked by 3 people

    • James Carpenter says:

      Marching will be ignored.
      Vigilantism will be dealt with.
      The agony of defeat comes when you’ve marched too much… and your enemies have no cause to fear you.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Amazed treetop downlooker says:

      Would probably need a 1-2 MILLION patriot turnout, encircling ALL approaches to D.C., starting ~50 miles out, spread over at least a week, TOTALLY encircling/ensnaring not only ALL of DC, but all the privileged high income swamp bedroom communities in MD, VA, perhaps even up to DE ? Ideally 7/24 gridlock presence, to truly HAMMER the point home.
      YUUGE logistic challenge, but shut DC down, maybe leading up to & including “Tax Day”, which is usually in May.

      Good dress rehearsal for 2nd verse, highly endowed with countless high speed wireless lead delivery devices, if ever needed…HOPE & PRAY NOT !!!
      Would require millions of III%’ers, yes, a long shot, but what else REALLY has a prayer of “renewing the tree of liberty”, a la Jefferson, at this VERY late hour , for the TRULY ENDANGERED Republic of the USA, honestly abiding by single, true justice-under-the-rule-of-law system bestowed on us by Founders…”IF we can keep it”

      Logically rigorous, persuasive, intellectually honest, soundly argued “victory” on the merits of the Founders’ case not gonna cut it with many, MANY of the mentally diseased left wing progsocialistcommunistfascist “true believers”…

      MAYBE continuous intercession for “red-pilling” of a critical mass of this LOST anti-American horde will be fruitful, PRAY GOD, but there comes a time when organized forceful-when-necessary, liberating defense of liberty is inescapable.

      Pray we aren’t as close to that hellish historical crossroads as millions of us fear we are !

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  22. alliwantissometruth says:

    So the criminals in the DOJ who participated in the coup are still running the DOJ and are allowed to thwart the investigation at every turn

    Hey, nice work if you can get it

    It’s also a nice perk that no one seems to be above anyone in the DOJ in rank, and they can do or not do pretty much anything they want

    And we owe a big thank you to Deep State spokesman Gowdy for telling us not to get our hopes up and to basically get over it and move on

    Hmm, I guess Of, For and By the People was just a snazzy slogan with no actual meaning


  23. Thrawl says:

    The whole point is… Don’t let them renew the Freedom Act (AKA the patriot act). It expires December 2019… this system of lies needs to stop.

    Liked by 7 people

    • amazed treetop downlooker says:

      YES, Thrawl, BIGLY, URGENTLY !!! And …

      DECLASS, DECLASS, DECLASS, 100%…ALL of it…

      back to AT LEAST WILSON ERA TRAVESTIES, League of Nations, Infernal RevSvc (was it ever legitimately voted into law?) & (non-) Fed (non-) “Reserve” creation (same/similar ugly song, 3rd DeepStateGlobalist deceptive verse), 1947 National Security Act/ Criminal Clowns in America creation, thru JFK & RFK HITJOBS, 9/11 Desert Storm & Afghan sham “predicates”, illegitimate Kenyan usurper “presidency’” & resultant pro-globalist & pro-Sharia anti-American, OWG idolizers’ infiltration widely spread thru our Fed gubmint, etc, etc, etc…and everything historically in between…too many more to list, MANY we don’t know of BUT …

      “We the People” are entitled to & really are obligated to, know, because we the LEGITIMATE voters & taxpayers are ultimately responsible for ENABLING the “ uniparty duopoly “ long since unleashed on our Republic & the world, and way too long permitted to fester: Incise & drain this EvilSwampLeviatan !

      YUUUGE ticket, right you are, but MUST strive for the “whole enchilada” approach, nothing less can lay this treason bare & to rest !🇺🇸

      The USA Patriot Act is one of the most potent stratagems for stripping Patriots of our Constitutionally enshrined, Bill of Rights guaranteed, God-given freedoms, and is ANYTHING BUT TRULY PATRIOTIC !

      Hard to see how USA Patriots & our Republic can survive this unpatriotic Act !

      What say you brilliant “treepers” ?

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  24. Julia Adams says:

    What kind of cost is Gowdy wearing and what is up with his new hairstyle and glasses?

    BTW, he just told us it’s too hard to prosecute and try a case of a higher up. So, that’s it, huh? No justice. Democrats win, again.

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    • Bill says:

      In regards to the fashion/hair style he’s clearly gone the route of Morning Joke Scarborough. Guy is a clown. For being a former top prosecutor he sure sucks at logic and reasoning. A$$ Clown.

      Liked by 5 people

      • mopar2016 says:

        That’s why most former prosecutors make great defense attorneys.
        I’ve always thought that Gowdy was full of it.


      • CountryDoc says:

        He has a good speaking voice. He knows how to manipulate and take advantage of it. Grateful for Sundance and CTH for bringing sunlight to who he really is.

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        • underwhelmingposter says:

          Can you please send me a link to Sundance’s comments on Trey Gowdy that has everyone here seem to hate him. Hate the way his hair is, his posture is, his aging is, his clothing is, and his voice is. What happened that caused so much venom to be spewed? If there are reasons for the hatred shown here, I would like to read and study them. My opinion might change. Right now the venom spewed is disturbing to say the least.


          • Charlie says:

            BENGAZI – !!! No amount of venom could be enough for this TRAITOR. Spins, lies, duck and covers ALL for the DS. Poster Boy for coverups.

            Liked by 2 people

          • wightmanfarm says:

            Sorry, but for all of Gowdy’s “crowing” during his stay in Congress he did jack-s*it. I joined the crowd of anti-Gowdy years ago while screaming (DO SOMETHING) at the tv while he was pontificating.

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          • CountryDoc says:

            There is no specific link, but you can search for Gowdy and Benghazi, Or Gowdy and Clinton emails. Watch his videos on the subject. He’s very articulately and covers wrongdoings, but then leaves it sitting there.

            It is not Sundance alone that is disappointed in skeptical of Gowdy. He is intelligent, has a beautiful oratorical voice, and very articulate. He never lost a case as a federal prosecutor. But he was unable to effectively Bring to light the full illegal nature of both Benghazi, and the Clinton emails.

            It is unclear when someone in such a good position of standing would resign from Office, and that is an important question to answer.

            The crimes of Benghazi and the Clinton emails are so visible, and becoming more visible every day. The fact that heTook the role in seemingly purposefully sandbagged it Tends to indicate that he is either colluding to hide something, or is being influenced By someone else.

            Even though he has access to more information, he has been far less effective, and in fact disappointing, compared to those who are clear patriots.

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      • The Third Man says:

        I think Gowdy is a direct descendant of the “Deliverance” banjo virtuoso.


    • I thought of this as soon as I saw the RB RAT B. Fits to a T

      Liked by 1 person

    • whoseyore says:

      ..and people used to advocate for Gowdy to be named DOJ. I never did like the guy and always suspected he was part of the deep state.


  25. geoffcsaltine says:

    Who told him to only look at one FISA request?
    And then he states he would go where ever the info leads, so was he hamstrung by good ole Rod again.
    I give up. He is just another deep state slime bag.
    P. Trump needs to take the bull by the horns and burn it all down it is the only way.

    Liked by 3 people

  26. andy says:

    JIll Stein was also invited to the UK to give a speech 2016. Im betting she was wire-tapped too.

    Liked by 2 people

  27. k4jjj says:

    We have already lowered our expectations to: Only a revolution can fix this.

    Liked by 2 people

  28. Pa Hermit says:

    Don’t lose sight of Gowdy’s job was to protect the deep state! He finally invested in a non purple tie! Miracles never cease, no?

    Liked by 1 person

    • underwhelmingposter says:

      Can you please send me a link to Sundance’s comments on Trey Gowdy that has everyone here seem to hate him. Hate the way his hair is, his posture is, his aging is, his clothing is, and his voice is. What happened that caused so much venom to be spewed? If there are reasons for the hatred shown here, I would like to read and study them. My opinion might change. Right now the venom spewed is disturbing to say the least.


  29. litlbit2 says:

    Great, we have a new Swamp TV star(Gowdy) on FAKENEWS telling us(Deplorables)the swamp Corruption Department(DOJ)has fixed the setup committee(FBI) with long time associate(AG Barr) to employ one of their own(IG Report) with the clean up. Game over?

    Looking for Sundance’s Kitty☕️🍩


  30. 335blues says:

    The jokes on us.
    The laws exist to keep the little people in their place.
    They don’t apply to REAL people.
    Somewhere, Teresa Heinz is smiling because she always knew it.
    And I see William Barr pulling a mask off his head to reveal……..Jeff Sessions.
    Do you think they gave Barr a nice big piece of property in South America that
    sits on a huge water aquifer like they gave to George W. Bush?
    Payment for services rendered.
    Somehow it always works out like that for the REAL people.
    It’s like waking up to find out you can’t wake up and leave the nightmare.

    Liked by 1 person

  31. johneb18 says:

    Now wait a minute… Carter Page is alleged, incorrectly, based on Steele dossier ‘evidence’ to be an “agent of a foreign power” which is the requirement for getting a Title 1 FISA warrant, correct?

    How could he all of a sudden be considered a cooperating witness – and even if he WERE a cooperating witness, what gives the FBI the right to insert him into the campaign without a proper predicate, if Carter Page, himself, is not the predicate?

    Liked by 2 people

    • Zorro says:

      Isn’t it a rule that a little “lack of candor” is acceptable in the counterintelligence game?

      Liked by 1 person

    • BitterC says:

      He can’t. They lied to the FISA court. If they had quietly told the court they were just using Carter to get a warrant to spy on Trump , the court would have said “no way”…go get a criminal warrant.

      I am surprised Sundance threw that out there. I suspect he was driving at something else entirely. Sometimes Sundance is a bit too succinct and it leads to misunderstandings.

      It makes no sense to think Carter could grant permission for a FISA. If that is something that could be done, we are in BIG trouble & I am fairly confident it is not

      Like I said above, Nunes has seen the entire FISA unredacted.


  32. Zorro says:

    So the FIB can just put a warrant on one of their own at any time and everything is kosher. Nice to know.

    Liked by 1 person

  33. jx says:

    Gowdy is still a waste.

    Barr’s DOJ, by looking through a pinhole, limits scope and thus avoids addressing the coup.


    • Zy says:

      Just a little isolated incident like James Wolfe and his classified leaking. He was just trying to impress his girlfriend, nothing more. It could have been any little piece of info.


  34. Margaret Berger says:

    Tray is not our friend and not on our side. His role is to ease us away from our righteous indignation and make us give up.

    Liked by 4 people

  35. albertus magnus says:

    Those of us that have been telling everyone for the last year that NOTHING is going to happen are not the enemy…we are NOT against PDJT….we are not eeyores….we are just pointing out to the rest of you that hoping and wishing and dreaming that Clinton, Comey, et al are going to ever face justice is just a colossal waste of time and that the entire MAGA movement NEEDS to focus on those issues that our side is actually FIGHTING on and MAKING a difference. Otherwise, PDJT will NOT win re-election, if that really does matter to you more than just venting, tick-tocking and getting angry.

    The entire BACK AND FORTH over this evolved into a simple tool for BOTH sides to drive views, clicks and donations.


    Liked by 3 people

  36. We really need a mental giant like ‘Sean Hannity’ to weigh in on the fallout to all this.


  37. H.R. says:

    Sundance: “One point of focus from Horowitz’s letter today is that he *only* looked at the singular FISA issues surrounding Carter Page, nothing more.”

    And it took how long to do that?!?!

    Is Horowitz just in this for Starbucks Club points? How many punch cards are in his wastebasket?

    [Insert l-o-o-o-n-g string of explicatives, A to Z and in 27 languages, here]
    Deep breath
    If it results in just one indictment of someone in the “small group”, then never mind the above.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Bill says:

      And if that’s the only thing he looked at, then why was Joe D running around saying he knew they illegally obtained 4 FISA warrants? Where did that come from? And if this is true, what on earth was the point of the investigation if he wasn’t going to look at EVERY ASPECT of the investigation.
      I truly think after years of leading us by the nose toward socialism and us sitting back and taking it, they thought we would just sit back and accept this preposterous excuse for an investigation. We put up with so much caving on our end on countless issues under both bushes thinking we were being good citizens. I don’t think they understand that Trumps election was US SAYING WE’VE HAD ENOUGH. This isn’t going to cut it anymore you establishment HACKS!

      Liked by 1 person

  38. tiredofallthis says:

    So the argument would be that it was not criminal to fraudulently obtain a FISA warrant against Carter Page because he was in on the fraud and didn’t object, and the use of that FISA warrant to spy on other Americans including President Trump is irrelevant. Wow, that may be the worst defense I ever heard. Why bother with all these complex laws governing surveillance, just get a government informant to agree to having a FISA warrant fraudulently issued against them and then surveil any one who fits within the two hop rule. Way better than having the informant wear a wire to a meeting.

    Liked by 1 person

    • A Moderate Man says:

      If this happened as we are speaking, we live in a sick country. The government should convert to algorithmic governing, not people centric. A computer will have more scruples!!!

      We could cut the federal workforce by 500,000 people.

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  39. andy says:

    How do we come to interpret “Relating to a certain U.S. person.” signifies Carter Page was a willing participant?


  40. I was never sure about Carter Page, and now it appears by gut feeling was on target. If he was part of the scheme team plot to spy and ruin President Trump, this would explain why he was never charged and why he said he only wanted 1 dollar from the government for allegedly ruining him!
    If he’s part of the insurance policy, he’d be advised to keep his crooked ass off TV play acting that he was “wrongly set up “.
    I always thought he was CIA.

    Liked by 4 people

  41. aumechanic says:

    So it’s starting to line up that federal law enforcement will be run by intimidation and coercion thru the end of a gun barrel. I aint t thru but I’ll shut up.


  42. dufrst says:

    Sundance, are you saying we are solely looking to Durham for any justice? Because Horowitz, to me, has just been stringing this thing along.

    What do we want? Indictments! When do we want them? NOW! (Repeat 3 X)

    If Comey is not in handcuffs some time in 2020, something is wrong. What was the predicate? Who authorized all the activity surrounding Papadopoulos? There are so many unanswered questions and the answers would seem to be very devastating to all involved. Yet, here we are almost 3 years in and I have to hear Gowdy suggest that we should not only look to indictments for justice. Really? Two tiered justice and biased justice in favor of the Left.

    Hillary’s people can lie and destroy evidence and nothing happens. The attorney general didn’t recuse herself despite meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac to discuss “grandkids.” But Trump’s people are spies on, harassed, sand bagged, put on charges unrelated to the investigation, and thrown in solitary confinement. The Attorney General recuses himself before he’s appointed! But we are suppose to accept anything short of indictment according to Gowdy. This is a disgrace!

    If no one on their side is indicted, we are living in a banana republic! And conservatives, right leaning folks, and/or nationalists, however you want to be labeled, your days are numbered in this country! When one side can get away with anything and the other is railroaded, our great freedom experiment is over!


  43. john70 says:

    Since the moment Carter Page showed his face on TV, it was obvious he was not victim, but an FBI plant in the Trump’s campaign under the guise of a Russian agent. This was done to justify the surveillance of the campaign. “Look there’s a guy with Russian connection in the Trump campaign, we need to put him surveillance to reveal the collusion!”.
    If the IG report covers the Carter Page situation, I think this is worse for the Deep State, not better. If you do surveillance because you think someone is dubious, that’s bad, but if that guy is your informant and you use him as a fake reason to do surveillance, that’s worse.
    Let’s wait and see what happens. Remember where we were last year, with Mueller chasing Trump and with Sessions shitting his pants.

    Liked by 4 people

  44. Patter Grey says:

    the US military ALLOWED this to happen to us as US citizens. Thanks for betraying the US citizen yet again.


  45. California Joe says:

    This is the setup! Doing everything investigation compartmentalized and piecemeal so that the investigator looks at each crime through blinders and doesn’t see any of the related criminals or criminal activity. This is deliberate on the part of Horrible Horowitz the DOJ Inspector General. In federal law enforcement no one ever limits the scope of an investigation like this. It’s deliberate and Horowitz nerds to be fired by AG Barr.


  46. veritas libertas says:

    The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

    Liked by 1 person

  47. Right to reply says:

    Can someone please explain why Carter Page is suing, if he was willing to be the mole to bring down Trump? I am seriously confused here!


  48. JoeMeek says:

    If my expectations were any lower, they could walk under a closed door. And as to the most guilty of all, Obama, he very probably won’t even be given the equivalent of a parking ticket.


    • underwhelmingposter says:

      He’ll be given more book deals. He arrived in DC as well connected politico, and now he is worth north of a hundred million. How deep state is that. And he and the family travelled all over the world for 8 years. Not bad, if you can get it.


  49. California Joe says:

    Since Carter Page was always a paid operative for the FBI and never an agent of a foreign government (Russia) applying for a FISA warrant with an affidavit swearing Carter Page is an agent of a foreign government (Russia) would be a federal crime under 18 USC 1001 False Statements…. at a minimum.

    Liked by 1 person

  50. mr.piddles says:

    “The head of the tick-tock club”

    Ha! Captain Tick Tock?


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