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Carter Page Discusses His CIA and FBI Role With Maria Bartiromo….

Carter Page appeared on Fox News today with Maria Bartiromo to discuss his work as an informant for the FBI in the Evgeny Buryakov case.  The case involved Buryakov in New York and two other SVR agents, Igor Sporyshev and Victor Podobnyy. [See Here]

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It never made sense that U.S. Person Carter Page was an FBI witness from 2013 through to March/May 2016 and yet in October 2016, to achieve a FISA warrant, the FBI called him an agent of a foreign government.  [FISA APPLICATION]

It never made sense until we realized the FBI didn’t use Carter Page to gain a FISA warrant (that was an outcropping); the FBI used Carter Page to get the Steele Dossier into official investigative status.  What they needed was the Dossier, Page was irrelevant other than he checked all the boxes needed to fabricate the illusion of “an agent of a foreign power.”

On August 15th, 2016, Lisa Page and Peter Strzok have a meeting with Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe.  At the conclusion of that meeting, Peter Strzok sends a text message to Ms. Page:

“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office -that there’s no way he gets elected- but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk.  It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”

Here’s where Carter Page is about to come in…

Carter Page was not accused of being an agent of a foreign government to get a FISA warrant; that was a secondary -albeit necessary- outcome. Carter Page was accused of being an agent of a foreign government to get the Steele Dossier into the investigation.

The “small group” of corrupt DOJ and FBI officials; those same officials that became the “Mueller Team”; always had a plan to generate a special counsel investigation that they would carry out against the potential president-elect Trump.  This investigation was their insurance policy…. what would be ‘investigated’ would be the Fusion/Ohr/Steele dossier.

Without Carter Page, the Steele Dossier is just an assembly of political opposition research.  However, with Carter Page painted as an “agent of a foreign government” the Steele Dossier moves from opposition research into evidence that needs to be investigated.

The dossier is what the corrupt DOJ and FBI team needed.  Carter Page was a way to put that dossier into evidence that needed to be investigated.  That’s why the dossier is the primary evidence the FBI used to get the FISA Title-1 warrant.

Once they moved the dossier into official investigative status, it could then be passed off to Robert Mueller’s special counsel team for investigation.  That Mueller team was the same team who worked to exploit the original creation of the dossier.  It’s all the same people.

The DOJ (Bruce Ohr), Fusion GPS (Simpson and Nellie Ohr) and FBI (Pientka and Strzok) steered Christopher Steele to their allies in the State Dept.  This is a plausible deniability maneuver.  After the State Dept. also had the dossier, the FBI used the State Dept report of Steele’s information as the foundation for the claim that Carter Page was “an agent of a foreign power.”

All of this was done just to attach the dossier to a target.  The target just needed to fit a profile with enough Russian contacts so the dossier could stick.  That target was Carter Page.  The FBI and DOJ didn’t care about Carter Page, what they wanted was the dossier.

As soon as they got the Special Counsel appointed, the dossier became the material to start the investigation of Trump… and all the names in the dossier (Manafort, Flynn etc).

Because they always knew there was no material substance to the dossier, the goal of the investigation was to get President Trump to obstruct it/them.   All of the provocative action by the special counsel team was intended to provoke President Trump into taking action that could be defined as obstruction.

  1. Fusion GPS and Nellie Ohr gave underlying material to Chris Steele.
  2. Chris Steele created the dossier and laundered the Fusion material into the FBI through Bruce Ohr.
  3. The FBI team then used the dossier to identify a target, Carter Page.
  4. Carter Page was used to put the dossier into official investigative status, via the FISA application.
  5. As valid investigative evidence, the dossier was then passed to Robert Mueller.
  6. Robert Mueller then used the dossier investigation to target Trump people.
  7. The Trump people were targeted in such a hostile manner to bait President Trump into obstructing the investigation.
  8. The obstruction would then be used by political allies to remove President Trump.

This was the end goal of the “insurance policy”.

The insurance policy needed the Steele Dossier.

Carter Page was the means to an end; he was not the end itself.

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215 Responses to Carter Page Discusses His CIA and FBI Role With Maria Bartiromo….

  1. dawg says:

    1. So its confirmed Page is a career government informant

    2. An indictment against 3 Russians is leaked in January of 2015, naming Page as a source.
    So his cover is blown, right?

    3. Sometime later in 2015, Page emails Ed Cox in New York, expressing interest to volunteer for the Trump campaign. https://www.timesunion.com/7day-state/article/N-Y-GOP-s-Cox-introduced-Carter-Page-to-Trump-12553410.php

    4. In December of 2015, Cox puts him in touch with campaign manager, sets up meeting

    5. January 2016, Carter Page meets with campaign at Trump Tower

    6. March 2016, Page is asked by the FBI to testify and commit perjury in previous case against the 3 Russians. Page refuses.

    Looking at that timeline, it would seem that Page realized his career as an informant was probably over, so maybe he sincerely wanted to join the Trump camp? The FBI still needed him for that old case, but he refused. So then the FBI just uses him in any way they can. They label him a spy, surveil him, “dirty up” the Trump camp. But they cant actually charge him with anything, because he knows too much.

    Im not exactly sure what to make of it, but Im now actually leaning towards the direction that Page was a victim, simply based on this timeline.

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    • jeff montanye says:

      and isn’t it a good thing that president trump, if not a stable genius, is at least stable enough and smart enough (and so are his aides) that mueller, et. al. didn’t get fired, that the firing (or whatever) of such as strzok and lisa page was done by mueller or his deputy>

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      • farrier105 says:

        Sessions fired McCabe on the lying charge found in the Inspector General’s report and there was no obstruction charge. Lisa Page resigned from the FBI. Strzok was put on ice for awhile in Human Resources and then fired, not by Mueller, who only sent him back to FBI from the Special Counsel’s office. Once again, no obstruction was charged.

        If obstruction was that easy to charge, Nadler wouldn’t be looking for it in Trump’s businesses or his tax returns. I still don’t think they could have charged Trump if he fired Sessions and put in an Attorney General who would have insisted on a bi-partisan staff of prosecutors, instead of 100% Democrats, and a Special Counsel who was not a fact witness as Mueller was after his “interview” with Trump in the Oval Office. In addition to those two improvements to the structure of the investigation, the scope could be changed to include the Hillary campaign and Fusion GPS for getting campaign help from Russian government figures. Once that was done, it wouldn’t be long before the media and the Democrats started talking about closing the thing down.

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    • Battleship Wisconsin says:

      6. March 2016, Page is asked by the FBI to testify and commit perjury in previous case against the 3 Russians. Page refuses.

      In March 2016, Carter Page may have realized he was at one of those ‘which fork in the road do I choose to take’ kinds of choices you sometimes have to make in life.

      Knowingly committing perjury is an irrevocable act. If Page commits perjury in the previous case against the three Russians, he is forever after a prisoner of the Deep State and must fulfill any future request and play any future role his handlers demand of him.

      But he also knows that if he refuses to commit perjury, he may suffer some form of future retribution from his Deep State handlers. IMHO, that knowledge would tend to make him receptive to striking a bargain in the best interests of both parties to a mutually beneficial deal.

      It is possible that after Page’s refusal to testify against the three Russians, his handlers may have offered him a second chance to stay in their good graces by joining the Trump campaign in order to keep an eye on things, so to speak.

      Becoming an informant inside the Trump campaign isn’t necessarily a criminal act on Page’s part and doesn’t necessarily carry with it an inevitable set of legally important consequences if he is eventually found out.

      Once he was involved in the Trump campaign, regardless of how limited was his role, Page had accomplished what his handlers needed from him just by being there, even if they never made another demand of him such as gathering specific types of information or performing actual surveillance activities.

      If as expected, Hillary Clinton wins in November, 2016, then the terms of the bargain struck in March, 2016, between Carter Page and his Deep State handlers can be fulfilled.
      No one outside the Deep State will know that a FISA warrant had been issued against Carter Page; and Page himself won’t care because the whole affair will remain hidden.

      A Clinton victory means that Carter Page can quietly go his own way as he sees fit, without any further obligations to his handlers, and the Deep State can continue on with business as usual doing all the things it was planning to do under a Clinton presidency.

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      • dawg says:

        This is what I thought at first. But it seems he tried to join the campaign before they asked him to commit perjury.

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        • Battleship Wisconsin says:

          dawg says: ‘This is what I thought at first. But it seems he tried to join the campaign before they asked him to commit perjury.’

          That is a good point. However, even if Carter Page had tried to join the Trump campaign earlier, the no going back ‘fork in the road’ decision point occurs when he is asked by his Deep State handlers in March of 2016 to commit perjury.

          If you are his Deep State handlers, you might say to him in March, 2016, OK Mr. Page, if you won’t commit to supporting us with your testimony against the three Russians, then you can at least help us in another way by following through with your previous efforts at joining the Trump campaign.

          That said, it may be years, if ever, before we know the full truth of what transpired between Carter Page and his Deep State handlers in 2015 and 2016.

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        • farrier105 says:

          There is no rule that an informant cannot have another job. Page did not disclose that relationship to the Trump Campaign, however. He couldn’t, but that puts him in the position of a potential “sleeper” inside the campaign, so his role in this is still subject to interpretation.

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          • dawg says:

            I understand that. My point is that it wasnt like they asked him to testify, he refused and THEN he joined the Trump camp. Which would make it look even more like he was doing it for the FBI.

            I agree its still up in the air as to whether he was a willing sleeper/mole/spy or not.

            But I couple the timeline of events with the fact that he has been publicly talking and exposing much of what the FBI tried to do for a long time now as evidence that he did not join the Trump camp for the purposes of infiltrating them and spying on them.

            Thats just currently where I am at on him, but that could change.

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            • farrier105 says:

              Page really didn’t have much contact with anyone in the Trump campaign. They just needed someone who had borscht on his breath to put a Russian scent on the Trump campaign. Might be nothing more than that.

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  2. dottygal says:

    And, don’t forget the phony dossier was bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton/the DNC. All roads end back at HRC. I am going to be so disappointed if they don’t indict her and charge her with corruption. She is the one who colluded with a foreign power!

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  3. dottygal says:

    And, don’t forget the phony dossier was bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton/the DNC. All roads end back at HRC. I am going to be so disappointed if they don’t indict her and charge her with corruption. She is the one who colluded with a foreign power!

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  4. dottygal says:

    And, don’t forget the phony dossier was bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton/the DNC. All roads end back at HRC. I am going to be so disappointed if they don’t indict her and charge her with corruption. She is the one who colluded with a foreign power!

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  5. Zippy says:

    The perps in jail in 3… 2… 1… 2… 3… 4…

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  6. i’m waiting for all Those corruption of clowns go To prison,

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    • Linda K. says:

      I was going to say at least they fired the bad actors, but McCabe and Strzok have filed wrongful termination suits or something. Is that just for the casual observer?Barr should indict them so they can have something to feel really wronged about. They were lucky to be escorted just from the building and not over to the jailhouse.

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  7. J.Thomas says:

    I am under the impression that Page was just another asset run at the Trump campaign.

    Halper, Turk, Misfud, Downer, Thompson, Anthony Ferrante, Felix Sater, Sergei Milian, etc., and … Carter Page.

    Was Page the key to turn to ignite the insurance policy? Is he the source they had to burn? Is Page’s subsequent pro-Trump act his means of trying to protect himself from professional and/or physical harm?

    Making himself a public figure seems to be the only way to keep from getting erased. Playing both sides (aligning with Trump and still playing the pro-Russia act) seems to be a way to strategically stay out of the cross-hairs of both. Filing a lawsuit appears to be another means to protect interests, and is the strategy also used by Strzok and McCabe.

    CIA…they seem to like to confuse motive at all times. Page is doing a pretty good job of it if that is in fact what he is doing. If he’s trying to recover after being burned by his holders, then he’s doing a really good job of it.

    You can never believe anything that CIA says…only what they do.

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  8. Pew-Anon says:

    I’ll just keep reiterating. I don’t think Trump cares about any of this. He comes from the Manhattan real estate world, which is essentially the mafia. Dealing with corruption is all in a day’s work. His real goal is dismantling the corporate Chicomm NWO. If he can get that done in two terms, then he might turn his wrath to these lackeys. Until then, we probably shouldn’t expect much justice on this level. From his perspective it seems he has better things to do.

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    • Battleship Wisconsin says:

      My guess is that President Trump has delegated responsibility for dealing with Spygate to AG William Barr and to White House legal advisor Rudy Giuliani, using much the same approach he’s used in delegating other major items on his agenda.

      ‘Here are the results I want. It’s your job to figure out how to deliver those results. Keep me informed as to your progress and of any major problems and issues that are currently developing. Keep a positive attitude at all times and be joyful and productive in your work.’

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      • Pew-Anon says:

        Well then, how to explain no results, because “no results” is exactly what we’ve got. Either Trump has told them he actually wants no results, or they have failed, in which case they would be fired, in true Trump form. I suspect, if he has delegated at all, the results they’ve been told to achieve is to keep this from interfering with his global trade reset crusade, in which case my initial point stands.

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    • romy911 says:

      Pew-Anon, I hear you and agree.
      Justice for our government criminals may also be a timing issue related to the upcoming election.
      I’m still interested & engaged in the attempted framing & removal from office of our President, but my level of frustration with the lack of indictments is much less.
      Also, there is new evidence and confirmation of suspected evidence of the coup still being revealed.

      I’m in the wait and see mode and enjoying every other aspect of President Trump and his presidency. Thanks to Sundance and all the contributors and posters on CTH. It’s a wild ride but so much less frustrating and enjoyable (popcorn, please) at CTH.

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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        Justice for our government criminals may also be a timing issue…….

        The glass half full side of me agrees with this.
        Things were already in motion before Barr that have to be put to bed.

        The last one is the IG FISA Report.
        Let’s see what that says and then what immediately follows.

        And if what follows is NOTHING…….then Lady Justice is screwed……..yet again……
        because there will not be enough time.

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  9. Justmom says:

    Wow! Giant bombshell drops when he mentions that he had been working closely with Chris Stevens at State and that there are “parallels” to his current situation.

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    • J.Thomas says:

      Well, everyone should be able to figure out by now that the Embassy in Libya was a CIA operation and that they were running weapons through it into Syria. Those weapons were stolen in a raid where CIA operators (including Stevens) lost their lives. The insurgents aren’t as stupid as the Obama Administration thought they were. They probably watched the flow of weapons and pinched them when they had the opportunity.

      Carter Page is simply pointing out other CIA operators who were hung out to dry as casualties in POLITICAL WARS. The spies operating against the Trump campaign were POLITICAL in nature and potentially part of the same political war: The Obama Administration against anyone who would interfere; by any means necessary.

      Page is complaining that politicians sacrifice CIA agents for political purposes. We should be able to read between the lines here to see that Page is inferring that he was sacrificed because he wouldn’t give false testimony in another operation.

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    • MelH says:

      Justmom, when and where did the President mention that Giant bombshell I’ve not seen mentioned anywhere else but here.?

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      • Justmom says:

        In the video at the beginning of this story, Carter Page tells Maria Bartiromo that he worked closely with Chris Stevens when Stevens was working the Iran desk at State and further that his situation has “similarities”.

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  10. FishtheDish says:

    So…I don’t see anything happening. What happened to the Nunes criminal referrals? What happened to the other criminal referrals? What happened to Huber – where are his findings? Why is the IG report so late – having trouble whitewashing it? Why is Wray still stonewalling? What happened regards the whistleblower raid? NOTHING!

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    • MelH says:

      Given the riots that would ensue, the time to do a giant reveal isn’t now, when the economy is not solid because of the China thing and now Iran stepping in. The reveal will be soooo huge, and the losing side is so rabid, the timing has to be pluperfect!

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      • FishtheDish says:

        Ok – I agree that timing should be sequenced intelligently – especially regards the 2020 election. But my gut is telling me that the oxygen is getting taken out of the room. To die a slow, quiet death.

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        • gda53 says:

          Trust your gut.

          Some form of “reveal” but no (or few) “indictments”. Thats the plan.

          Why? Imagine how many lawsuits will emerge if the heads of the FBI/DOJ are charged and how many non-connected cases could be affected. Imagine the chaos.

          Not going to happen. The Barr plan is reform, not destroy.

          So Barr is having to chart a careful course on what can be revealed.

          Probable that virtually everyone gets a “just following orders” excuse. But whose orders?

          Blame it on the Brits. Or maybe Halper. Or X. Everyone else just followed the bouncing ball. It seemed so real at the time, right? And a big wink and nod to Hillary for a clever election ploy. Well played, Hil – go in peace, we don’t prosecute mere political shenanigans.

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  11. RAC Esq. says:

    Who at the FBI OK’d the raid on Roger Stone, that was very obvious provocation. Wray should be answering some questions.

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  12. So what are these “tens or hundreds of millions” Carter Page has lost out on? Did anyone hear the full ending of the video where he describes that?
    Sorry I’m late to the party on this one.

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