President Trump Delivers Remarks on Shootings in El Paso and Dayton – (Video and Transcript)…

Earlier today President Donald Trump delivered remarks from the White House about the shooting incidents in El Paso, TX, and Dayton, OH.  [Video and Transcript]

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[Transcript]  – THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. My fellow Americans, this morning, our nation is overcome with shock, horror, and sorrow. This weekend, more than 80 people were killed or wounded in two evil attacks.

On Saturday morning, in El Paso, Texas, a wicked man went to a Walmart store, where families were shopping with their loved ones. He shot and murdered 20 people, and injured 26 others, including precious little children.

Then, in the early hours of Sunday morning in Dayton, Ohio, another twisted monster opened fire on a crowded downtown street. He murdered 9 people, including his own sister, and injured 27 others.

The First Lady and I join all Americans in praying and grieving for the victims, their families, and the survivors. We will stand by their side forever. We will never forget.

These barbaric slaughters are an assault upon our communities, an attack upon our nation, and a crime against all of humanity. We are outraged and sickened by this monstrous evil, the cruelty, the hatred, the malice, the bloodshed, and the terror. Our hearts are shattered for every family whose parents, children, husbands, and wives were ripped from their arms and their lives. America weeps for the fallen.

We are a loving nation, and our children are entitled to grow up in a just, peaceful, and loving society. Together, we lock arms to shoulder the grief, we ask God in Heaven to ease the anguish of those who suffer, and we vow to act with urgent resolve.

I want to thank the many law enforcement personnel who responded to these atrocities with the extraordinary grace and courage of American heroes.

I have spoken with Texas Governor Greg Abbott and Ohio Governor Mike DeWine, as well as Mayor Dee Margo of El Paso, Texas, and Mayor Nan Whaley of Dayton, Ohio, to express our profound sadness and unfailing support.

Today, we also send the condolences of our nation to President Obrador of Mexico, and all the people of Mexico, for the loss of their citizens in the El Paso shooting. Terrible, terrible thing.

I have also been in close contact with Attorney General Barr and FBI Director Wray. Federal authorities are on the ground, and I have directed them to provide any and all assistance required — whatever is needed.

The shooter in El Paso posted a manifesto online consumed by racist hate. In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry, and white supremacy. These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hate has no place in America. Hatred warps the mind, ravages the heart, and devours the soul. We have asked the FBI to identify all further resources they need to investigate and disrupt hate crimes and domestic terrorism — whatever they need.

We must recognize that the Internet has provided a dangerous avenue to radicalize disturbed minds and perform demented acts. We must shine light on the dark recesses of the Internet, and stop mass murders before they start. The Internet, likewise, is used for human trafficking, illegal drug distribution, and so many other heinous crimes. The perils of the Internet and social media cannot be ignored, and they will not be ignored.

In the two decades since Columbine, our nation has watched with rising horror and dread as one mass shooting has followed another — over and over again, decade after decade.

We cannot allow ourselves to feel powerless. We can and will stop this evil contagion. In that task, we must honor the sacred memory of those we have lost by acting as one people. Open wounds cannot heal if we are divided. We must seek real, bipartisan solutions. We have to do that in a bipartisan manner. That will truly make America safer and better for all.

First, we must do a better job of identifying and acting on early warning signs. I am directing the Department of Justice to work in partisan — partnership with local, state, and federal agencies, as well as social media companies, to develop tools that can detect mass shooters before they strike.

As an example, the monster in the Parkland high school in Florida had many red flags against him, and yet nobody took decisive action. Nobody did anything. Why not?

Second, we must stop the glorification of violence in our society. This includes the gruesome and grisly video games that are now commonplace. It is too easy today for troubled youth to surround themselves with a culture that celebrates violence. We must stop or substantially reduce this, and it has to begin immediately. Cultural change is hard, but each of us can choose to build a culture that celebrates the inherent worth and dignity of every human life. That’s what we have to do.

Third, we must reform our mental health laws to better identify mentally disturbed individuals who may commit acts of violence and make sure those people not only get treatment, but, when necessary, involuntary confinement. Mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger, not the gun.

Fourth, we must make sure that those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety do not have access to firearms, and that, if they do, those firearms can be taken through rapid due process. That is why I have called for red flag laws, also known as extreme risk protection orders.

Today, I am also directing the Department of Justice to propose legislation ensuring that those who commit hate crimes and mass murders face the death penalty, and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.

These are just a few of the areas of cooperation that we can pursue. I am open and ready to listen and discuss all ideas that will actually work and make a very big difference.

Republicans and Democrats have proven that we can join together in a bipartisan fashion to address this plague. Last year, we enacted the STOP School Violence and Fix NICS Acts into law, providing grants to improve school safety and strengthening critical background checks for firearm purchases. At my direction, the Department of Justice banned bump stocks. Last year, we prosecuted a record number of firearms offenses. But there is so much more that we have to do.

Now is the time to set destructive partisanship aside — so destructive — and find the courage to answer hatred with unity, devotion, and love. Our future is in our control. America will rise to the challenge. We will always have and we always will win. The choice is ours and ours alone. It is not up to mentally ill monsters; it is up to us.

If we are able to pass great legislation after all of these years, we will ensure that those who were attacked will not have died in vain.

May God bless the memory of those who perished [DEL: in Toledo :DEL] . May God protect them. May God protect all of those from Texas to Ohio. May God bless the victims and their families. May God bless America.

Thank you very much. Thank you.

END 10:18 A.M. EDT

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351 Responses to President Trump Delivers Remarks on Shootings in El Paso and Dayton – (Video and Transcript)…

  1. Bork man says:

    What’s the thinking on this ? we’re supposed to let fake news or the 4 morons of color tell us what our President said , ..
    And that’s all msm is talking about , fiction ,that we didn’t hear what we heard and msm democrats will tell us what Trump really said and ment .
    Really?

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    • Jederman says:

      “What’s the thinking on this ? we’re supposed to let fake news or…”

      The fake news isn’t even talking to us. They know their BS won’t fly. They are talking to their half of the electorate IOT keep them agitated and on the reservation.

      Everyone is in their own corner. There is no reasoned dialogue between the Lefty’s and the Right. It’s all about name calling and agitation.

      IMO the Left realizes most of the country rejects socialism, globalism and the rest of their foolish ideas. Most of us like our culture and our way of life. They now know that they can’t sell their alternative version through mature dialog.

      All they can do is force it on the rest of us, so why try anymore to be collegial and mannerly.

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      • Bork man says:

        It’s embarrassingly transparent and idiotic to have that as the argument “you didn’t hear what you heard and let me a explain to you what Trump really ment let me add words or take them away ” that’s the mentally ? that’s the enemies game plan ,lol

        Mark Twain once said, “The difference between the almost right word and the right word is really a large matter — ‘tis the difference between the lightning bug and the lightning.”

        Donald Trump is a nationalist who supports all things American, and has admitted as much. What he is not is a white nationalist — a detail that, like a decimal point, seems minor on the surface yet really is the difference between a lightning bug and lightning. Yet Democrats and the hard left continue to play with lightning, incessantly labeling Trump a white nationalist despite knowing how such language could be misperceived by legitimate neo-Nazis and white supremacist groups in America, possibly emboldening them to act.

        https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/08/why_democrats_own_el_paso_.html

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      • mimbler says:

        Well stated,

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  2. Zippy says:

    “THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. My fellow Americans, this morning, our nation is overcome with shock, horror, and sorrow. This weekend, more than 80 people were killed or wounded in two evil attacks.”

    For God’s sake D-R-O-P IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    “Good morning. my fellow Americans, this morning, our nation is overcome with shock, horror, and sorrow. This weekend, more than 220 innocent people died in automobile accidents, many due to drunk drivers, 246 souls committed suicide, and 268 died from opioid overdoses, most of those opioids coming through our porous border. These deaths are no less tragic and those affected are no less mournful than those killed in mass shootings which are less likely to kill you than an accidental poisoning and FAR less likely than an accidental poisoning if you stay out of Democrat sh*tholes.”

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    • Zippy says:

      ERROR: “killed in mass shootings which are less likely to kill you than an accidental poisoning” should be “killed with a firearm which is less likely to kill you than an accidental poisoning.” Deaths in a mass shooting are a TINY percentage of all homicides by firearm (and watch what the gun-grabbers define as a “mass shootings” which conveniently include GANG hits).

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    • Amy2 says:

      Take out traffic accidents and add in DUI deaths and I’m in.

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      • Zippy says:

        ?????? “220 innocent people died in automobile accidents, many due to drunk drivers”

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        • Amy2 says:

          I just like the distinction between people choosing to drink and drive killing someone, and those who die in auto accidents for other reasons. Yes, an auto can be a deadly weapon, no doubt if not handled correctly, then that opens up not handling a firearm responsibly, and that hurts the case.

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  3. woohoowee says:

    Unless we confine the criminally insane the Left will continue to use these mass shootings to push until none of us can own a firearm of any kind. It really is that simple.

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    • ezpz2 says:

      Who gets to identify who the ‘criminally insane’ are?

      Weissmann?
      Maxine Waters?
      Beto?
      Cortez?
      Ilhan Omar?

      The list is long, and as has been said, they will define ‘criminally insane’ as those who wear maga hats, or simply those who don’t subscribe to their loony fascistic ideas.

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      • woohoowee says:

        They’ll do that anyway and won’t stop exploiting these mass shootings to take everyone’s guns. I think PT45 meant what he said about doing something and offered solutions today. I don’t agree with all of it, but am proud he put it all out there to try and help save life and limb.

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      • Judith says:

        I think the media are the criminally insane. If you want to know the truth. They are relentless in their attack on our Constitutional Republic. And we are crazy to listen to them.

        The answer to terrorism is right in front of our noses. Eliminate gun-free zones. Good guys will shoot the bad guys before they can kill dozens of innocent people. Problem solved! You’re welcome.

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    • antiqueiron says:

      This isn’t about gun control, at least not primarily. It’s about separating President Trump from large segments of his base. If he signs ANY gun control, including ANY red flag legislation, he will lose millions of votes from PA, Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, and others. And see the along with the “mental health” meme comes the “hate” meme as well. That’s leftist messaging. They want gains in thought control. “Hate speech” has taken hold & they want more by implementing Soviet style individual spying on our neighbors. “See something, say something.” They already have the electronic comm spying, they now want the stuff they can’t see. jmho

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      • woohoowee says:

        It’s so frustrating when I can’t make myself clear. We already have people who lost their right to have firearms, but they are not institutionalized. Those are the people I’m talking about. If they’re too unstable to own a gun IMHO they’re too unstable to be out here with the rest of us, b/c a gun is just a weapon and if someone is determined to harm others they’ll just choose a different weapon. These are the people I’m referring to. Did I do better with clarification?

        Separately I wonder about the possibility of better early detection of these mass shooters, b/c to me anyone who would harm another is not right to start with.

        But yes, the whole “see something, say something” campaign is creepy. Reminiscent of the Stasi.

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      • woohoowee says:

        One last thought for clarification:

        School shooter Nicholas Cruz and the Ohio shooter were both obviously in need of being confined in an asylum. It would have actually been the compassionate thing to do both for them and there wouldn’t have been any victims.

        Hope I’m clearer than mud now 😉

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  4. Chuck says:

    Ever tell a doctor you are or were depressed? Fill out the survey at the hospital that asks you about depression and your feelings? You are red flagged. Lots of government agencies have access to those records. This was a loud but short lived discussion during the run up to obamacare

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    • CALIFORNIA JOE says:

      Huh? The mother of the Sandy Hill teenager hired a lawyer and went to court to have her son committed and the judge ruled against her then set the kid loose! That was in upscale suburban Connecticut. The judge refused to listen to the psychos own mother and it cost her…her life and lot of other lives. You think filing a questionnaire at a hospital asking you (and about a million other people) about depression is going to send the cavalry to get you?????

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      • Just saying says:

        Like every other aspect of the political process, red flag laws will be politicized and used by the anti-American left against their political opponents

        Imagine “trusting the government”, after the IRS was weaponized against the Tea Party and the major 3 letter agencies were weaponized against Trump

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      • Chuck says:

        Think long term and bigger picture sir, the liberals do.
        The long term objective is to disarm the citizens by any means. Pass a red flag law and then twist its meaning, over time, until it suits your purpose. Pass an automatic weapons ban and then redefine automatic weapons, and on and on.

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      • Amy2 says:

        Yes. If you give a mouse a cookie…. BTW, I believe her son stole HER guns. She had tried to get him interested in something because of the issues he was having….

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        • Judith says:

          Good point. So by extension, everyone must forfeit their guns since “flagged” people might steal them from us. Right? It won’t be so bad. Take one for the team. The world will be sooo much safer then. /s

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      • Boots says:

        “You think filing a questionnaire at a hospital asking you (and about a million other people) about depression is going to send the cavalry to get you????”
        —–
        You’ve conflated two separate events into one, and used that one event to mischaracterize and misstate what the OP said.

        The OP never said filling out forms means ‘the cavalry will get you’. The OP stated – quite damn correctly – (1) that if you check the depression/sad/etc boxes, it’s noted in your medical record and as such is a “red flag” in your record.and, indeed, ‘red flagged’, and (2) lots of government agencies have access to those records. While HIPA is supposed to protect those records, that protection is a joke because it’s for “public safety” to let officials know if a gun owner is depressed.

        Additionally, ‘Joe’, in other states, doctors are either required or advised to report depression to the state police. My state is one of them. In my state, if you check the depressed boxes and you have a pistol permit, the state police can and may visit you to ‘ask you’ about your depression. In reality, they’re on a fishing expedition and anything you say WILL be used against you.

        Lastly, whether a million other people are asked the same question or not isn’t the point. The point, ‘Joe’, is that if YOU are asked the question, it could hurt YOU if you answered yes.

        You’re new here and so far all your posts have mischaracterized what others have posted, and then used that mischaracterization to posit the same falsehoods and misdirections the left uses to distract, obfuscate, and hide from the truth. So you can see how people might think you’re a troll. The longtimers here are pretty good at spotting them. So is SD and his crew.

        Me estas escuchando, amigo?

        One could be forgiven for thinking you might be a troll.

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        • California Joe says:

          We are fighting the Democrats, the Republicans and the news media. Three White kids went on a killing rampage and set back President Trump’s odds of being reelected big time. He’s a racist to 50% of Americans so, yes, he has to pay lip service and do something to address the problem. Red Flag laws are the least onerous of his options so smile and take it like the rest of us! Whining isn’t winning, Boots.

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          • peace says:

            No, California Joe. Trump will be re-elected. If anything, this event will increase his chances. People are on to the fake media and they don’t like it.

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          • ms doodlebug says:

            Since you know whining isn’t winning why are you whining because people object to answering intrusive questions that have nothing to do with the reason they seek and pay for medical care?

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          • Risa says:

            Yes, we can compromise our way, one concession at a time, into totalitarianism.
            And that’s a plan?

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        • JIM COMEY IS A WEASEL_DOUG says:

          Ive been wondering how many posters here are Shareblue/Muddled Madders trolls…seems we’ve had an influx.

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      • ms doodlebug says:

        There is not a person alive who has not been depressed about something at some time or another. It was depressing when I had to have my dog put down. Does that make me a danger to society? The bottom line is that we are paying a doctor to diagnose or treat a physical condition, not to make assumptions based on a few questions that have nothing to do with our reason for seeing a doctor.

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      • Contrarymary says:

        You are in California, joe. You bet they will.

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      • Beverly says:

        If she’d been a Republican instead of a lefty in good standing, yes, the boy would have been much more likely to be put on the Crazy List.
        Does that help?

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        • California Joe says:

          Most of suburban Connecticut is Republican and the Republican candidate for governor lost by a hair. Like Oregon and Washington state the cities control the state. My point is that after hiring a lawyer armed with psychologist reports that the kids was severely troubled and telling the judge her own personal horror stories about the kid to court the judge still wouldn’t commit the kid. So, you think filling out a self-help questionnaire is going to trigger an onslaught of “somebody” to take away your guns?

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    • ms doodlebug says:

      I was given a questionaire to fill out while waiting to see a new doctor while my doctor was out of town. None of the questions applied to the reason I was there. The last question was if I owned a firearm. Really? They need to know that to prescribe an antibiotic that I have to take for three days prior to dental work? No, and we do not have to complete such forms.

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    • mimbler says:

      Yes, and if implemented this would be a typical case of liberal unintended consequences.

      How many people will avoid seeking psychological help for a problem if they know it can/will cause them to lose their second amendment rights, as well as their legally purchased firearms.

      So people that might be aided by mental health professionals will avoid that and get worse.

      This has been a real concern with our veterans suffering from PTSD.

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  5. The Boss says:

    It’s pretty apparent that the “massive resistance” to President Trump and his policies, in the form of violent, property-damaging protests, in-your-face sanctuary cities and widespread, systemic residual corruption of the obama administration and a largely useless, constitutionally-retarded MSM contributed vastly to the lawless and lethal situation we find ourselves in. FAR more than ANY mischaracterized or falsified rhetorical barbs from the president.

    When that freak Beto O’Rourke say “JC, of course he’a a racist”, or Code Pink Spartacus Cory Booker and Rainbow Wimp Butt-edge-edge place blame squarely on the president, or Amy Frau Blucher congers up the KKK (a democrat party creation) after the two shootings – AND – they all get air time, you have to conclude as I did above. The mayhem and violence is being thrown at President Trump, along with insults, illegal spying and whatever else can be drummed up by the sore losers (and total assholes) who are running for the democrat nomination (except Marianne), the DNC. Media Matters etc.

    These scum don’t care a whit about the dead or wounded. Not one of them cares. If they cared, they’d never say what they’ve said. They are the divisive ones. They are the hateful one. They can all go to hell.

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  6. WIVoter says:

    Is life so dear and peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery Mr. Trump?

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  7. Texian says:

    I know how to solve this problem..

    Put Christian Prayer back in school..

    It will take about twenty years..

    This all started around twenty years after they took prayer out of school..

    I escaped the leftist mind programming.. Thanks to my parents.. They put me in private school.. With Nuns.. Nuns with guns.. (They taught us gun safety – and the Marine’s Hymn..).

    We learned early on not to mess with Nuns with guns who sang the Marine’s Hymn..

    And all the while wearing a white headband with a black head scarf, long black capes, and even a long chain hanging off of it (rosary). ..And they could be packing heat..

    They were a Formidable Force..

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  8. Jason Ross says:

    Remember all the soul searching from the apologetic left after Congressman Steve Scalise was gunned down in the baseball field? Yeah, me neither.

    Yet we are all supposed to wear a scarlet letter branding ourselves as ‘racist’ as we kneel down and rim out the criminals who call themselves Democrats. As they laugh all the way to 2020.

    This is ludicrous.

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  9. MVW says:

    Our evil media drags our gaze to our FEET, 24/7, 365 days a year. This evil media manufactures race & hatred, enflames differences…why? Money for clicks, Globalists money, enemies of America push this and benefit from this narrative.

    In fact, the home grown nuts that conduct evil acts are rare, rare. Yet, it is what the whole fake news focuses on.

    Just to change the narrative, here is a world changing group working to make Electric Energy a new and TRUE revolution, Fusion power, NEAR TERM (less than a decade) that will open up our solar system to human colonization. With fusion electric power we are not tied to the daytime, inner solar system.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2019/01/14/private-firm-will-bring-fusion-reactor-to-market-within-five-years-ceo-says/#63f114cf1d4a

    Together with a revolution in space travel opening up by SpaceX.

    Our eyes need to be lifted from our shoes, where the HATE POWERED so-called media forces down our throats (and their political arm, DemoRats), our feet, Lift our gaze from tragedy from rare and evil nuts-cases, to the future.

    God Bless America

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  10. Marcia says:

    With regard to the “Red Flag Laws” being suggested by President Trump, as a former Magistrate, Public Defender and a Police Officer I can tell you that most people don’t have a clue (unless you are dealing with a career criminal) how the legal system works. Most come in with a “deer in the headlights look” and are overwhelmed. Many of the individuals I represented as a Public Defendant and that appeared before me as a Magistrate, could barely read and write. I am not talking about illegal immigrants. I am talking about citizens that were taught in our “education” system.

    So, how much abuse do you think there is going to be with people who are accused of having mental problems (with justification or not) dealing with a process where the first hearing is conducted without them even being present? Most individuals, even under this growing economy, live paycheck to paycheck, and are not able to afford an attorney. So, a Public Defender will represent them. Most Public Defenders are swamped with cases so not much time can be given to each individual.

    Want to get back at a neighbor, family member, or “friend” that owns guns; or that has different political or religious beliefs than you do, then the “Red Flag Laws” are your ticket!

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    • Txguest says:

      Agree 100%. Im a defense attorney. Can guarantee that these laws will be manipulated and exploited , esp by people who know how to game the system. This is not a good idea and way too much of a slippery slope.
      Hopefully Potus reflects upon this. If you listen to the left, the intent is to take all guns, by any means necessary, so they will lie, tell you whatever you want to hear, to get the right to pass “common sense reform “, all with the intent of gaining a foothold that can be expanded later.

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      • Judith says:

        To think this all began with two little words: “Hate Crime.” Cultural Marxists are laughing their a$$e$ off right now.

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      • California Joe says:

        My personal professional experience in Florida is that even after elderly victims have lost hundreds of thousands of dollars to Nigerian type fraud and the children seek a protective order to take control of the remaining assets the judges will deny it and let the parent lose the rest of the money!

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    • Dutchman says:

      As a veteran of the criminal justice system, I would concur. Most people have NO idea, totally clueless.
      The career criminals like I was know the score.
      Last thing you want to do is be accused of a crime, be innocent, and have NO idea how the,system works.
      Often, you are the,deer, a few seconds AFTER being caught in the headlites; SPLAT!

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  11. JIM COMEY IS A WEASEL_DOUG says:

    I must confess the past day or 2 has been quite depressing. Beginning with the senseless deaths and injuries, compounded by the demagoguery of souless leftist politicians eager to push their Muh Racism/Guns are Evil narrative.

    I think about the unimaginable depths of depravity you’d have to sink to to harm another human being in this way. These perps have to be devoid of any sense of humanity. They truly are no different than the serial killers we have read about, and have been amongst us for ages.

    I don’t know how you can totally prevent this. The guns aren’t the issue because millions of people own them and would NEVER even think of doing something so evil.There is a severe disconnection to humanity missing with these people.

    I thank God my wife was wise enough to insist my kids didn’t become video/internet zombies. That she insisted on them interacting with other humans, children and adults alike in face to face interactions. If you have young children, I implore you to make sure they develop good interpersonal skills with other people. To me, this gets to the root of the problem.

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  12. TreeClimber says:

    Radicalized kids come from broken homes. Stop condemning symptoms and address causes. Mentally ill teenage boys? Depressed suicidal girls? Twenty-somethings going on shooting sprees?

    May I suggest stop shipping the parents out to work like chattel, and providing means/incentives for them to take care of their kids and, y’know, actually be parents? I feel like people would be surprised at how much this solves – not just shootings but many of society’s ills. Valuing children, especially one’s own children, and before their deaths, would help with a lot of mental illnesses/consequences… depression, suicide, homicide, self-harm, low self-esteem… what’s the common thread in most of these? Screwed up home lives and/or absent parents.

    Want a shocking example? I was recently watching a YouTube/Reddit video “What did your parents do that you thought was normal, but found out when you grew up that it wasn’t?” One person – one! – said “loved each other and me.” Both in the replies included in the video, and the replies on the video, that one person was viciously savaged – and not in a “funning” way, either. Straight-up violence/death threats. For having caring parents.

    Want to put an end to crime? Re-elevate the family. Otherwise you’re just slapping a bandaid on a gangrenous wound and it will never be better.

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    • JIM COMEY IS A WEASEL_DOUG says:

      bingo!

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    • Southern Girl says:

      Amen Sir. Have nothing else to say. It all begins in their home life.

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    • TeaForAll says:

      !00% right. There is not one answer to prevent gun violence. Start with Parenting and a loving nurturing environment. Internet, Smart Phones. video games, public school system. This is where your answer is . We all knew that the left would Politicize gun violence. They are desperate. They know they have no chance in hell winning 2020. They will go after congressional seats, mark my word . Just like they did in 2018

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  13. JustSomeInputFromAz says:

    I am against these “Red Flag” laws.

    Our Arizona Governor Ducey (R) pushed for one after Parkland, it did not make it out of the last legislative session. But they likely will try again.

    My concerns include probable abuse by ex-wife/ex-husband/ex-girlfriend/ex-boyfriend after a split up, rebellious teens angry they just grounded, and possibly neighbor feuds. Just crap to inconvenience and smear law abiding firearm owners.

    But deeper than that, if the Government actually believes a person to be such a danger to Society that they must confiscate that individuals firearms, why only take away that one lethal tool?

    Does the Government at the same time take away all cutting blades? Why not? They can be a lethal tool.

    Does the Government at the same time take away all vehicles? Why not? They can be a lethal tool.

    Does the Government at the same time take away the ability to rent a vehicle? Why not? They can be a lethal tool.

    That list can go on……if a person is that much of a danger, then how about commitment to a Mental Health Institution. Opps we do not do that anymore.

    But I doubt we have much to be worried about on a Federal level with this Congress. A Democrat Bill would likely be so full of poison pills (he smirked at me, let’s go see if he has firearms in his house), that it would easily be rejected by the Senate. Pelosi would never allow a sane Bill to get out of the House because then our President could point to a Public Safety achievement on the campaign trail soothing the nerves of the semi sane moderates who simply hate firearms (Hi Sis!). That ain’t gonna happen.

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    • steph_gray says:

      JustSome, I said much the same thing above somewhere.

      VSG is VSGing again with this. He knows the Congress won’t give him a perceived “win” by actually passing a national red flag bill and putting it on his desk. So he has the same risk there was in appearing to support DACA – zero.

      There were lots of people around here with hair on fire at DACA time (and yes, with good principled reason, true – I agree with the arguments against both).

      Of course we could be wrong. But I trust VSGPDJT not to do the wrong thing.

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      • JustSomeInputFromAz says:

        Sorry if I appeared to “steal” you POV…..it was just something I had thought about all day at work and did not read any comments before posting. Also I did some more research today on what our Governor is proposing in terms of “Red Flag” and it is a train wreck.

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  14. Phil aka Felipe says:

    Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil. Ecclesiastes 8:11

    (the recidivism rate of executed criminals is extremely low!)

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  15. JCM800 says:

    Over 2.3 million incarcerated in the US

    https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2019.html

    Violent Murderous Felons are let out Daily.
    How many fear being locked up again for obtaining a firearm?
    With in excess of 300 million firearms in the US, does anyone think they cannot obtain another?
    How many want payback for perceived wrongs that led to incarceration?
    How many graduates of the college of crime look forward to preying on naive unarmed population?

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  16. americalsgt says:

    I live in a Red Flag state and am concerned. But my biggest concern about Red Flag laws is they won’t stop nutters from getting guns. They may prevent an angry ex from killing his wife, but they won’t stop a mass murder as the person will find or steal a gun and next will be confiscation

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  17. Jerry Joe says:

    At a time when our southern border has been breached, an untold number of question marks in the form of over-stimulated, perhaps over medicated, desensitized, aimless, broken and unsupervised young adults (really a sad, sad thought), and a vocal, non-stop condemnation of the firearm by one political segment of society, one would think the conservative answer would be to unifiedly and vigorously demand of our government much less infringement of those rights already removed under the 2nd Amendment. At the time of this comment and after twice reading everything above, only Mike at 3:40 pm opined how the problem is solved in the real world – someone else nearby is also bearing arms. Everything else seems to be an argument in defense of a narrative dictated by that same non-stop….

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  18. Dale Thorn says:

    We need to recognize the Amendments, 1st and 2nd particularly, as absolutes. The Founders did not confuse yelling “fire” in a theater with speaking out against govt. corruption. They saw the 1st Amendment for exactly what it is, needing no interpretation by a court. The founders did not confuse “need for militias in certain social eras” with national or personal defense. They understood that the militia was us, and was forever, always ready to be called up. Those Amendments are a prohibition against govt. abrogating them, and govt. includes the courts. Beware of the interpreters – rights granted by God are absolute, and we have enough common sense within our history to prevent anyone using their “rights” to infringe on others.

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    • Judith says:

      Thank you Dale Thorn. You understand what it is to be an American citizen. Many brave patriots have died to protect the freedoms we so carelessly discard here. What about those fallen patriots and the REPUBLIC for which THEY stand?

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  19. Just saying says:

    Bill Mitchell has been proposing these red flag laws on twitter, he is getting a whole lot of pushback from his followers.

    That is a sign of a policy that is deeply unpopular with the base, because the people following Mitchell are the uh… less skeptical types.

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  20. Tazio Nuvolari says:

    Am I the only one who noticed this El Paso shooter’s “manifesto” is titled “An Inconvenient Truth”, the same as Al Gore’s climate change movie?

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  21. Greg Dane says:

    Before all the supporters of our President go ballistic on the proposed “Red Flag” direction he is going, you need to really listen closely to exactly what he said during the news conference.

    At marker 3:56 he spoke directly about allowing the DOJ and FBI to use every resource at their disposal (think NSA) to find and stop these hate crimes – he went on to identify social media and the internet as direct sources of these psychopaths agendas.
    At marker 4:56, he goes on to lay out a 5 part process to address these issues
    1) Marker 5:36 doing a better job of identifying those who would perpetrate these crimes – working with both state and federal agencies and social media companies to identify and isolate those putting out comments concerning hate or anger;
    2) .Marker 6:05 – addressing the glorification of violence through video games that advocate killing – as most have been found to have used this medium – granted many who have used these games will suffer at the limited mental state of the psychopaths who think you can shoot someone and there will not be any consequences for their actions
    3) Marker 6:39 mental health laws for those who exhibit these tendencies and need help – those who would be more likely to perpetrate hate crimes based on their mental state.
    4) Marker 7:08 – removal of firearms from those found to be unstable with removal of firearms using rapid due process
    5) Marker 7:27 – “Red Flag Laws” but clearly stating he is open to all advice and suggestions.
    Lastly – swift judgement and retribution for anyone committing these crimes

    Since he has made it clear of his stances on the Constitution, the 2nd Amendment, and gone out of his way to put Constitutional judges in place throughout the land; I believe he will not enact any legislation that will put honest Americans at risk.

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    • Alligator Gar says:

      Hate crimes? WTF! The “knock out game” that claimed many white peoples’ lives–that hate crime? Or “slap cam” where elderly whites were slapped in the face by black kids who filmed themselves doing it and laughing? Or how about “what the hell is it” where this was yelled at non-blacks by young blacks who hit the person (one victim was a young Jewish girl who was lucky enough to have many of her faith nearby who corralled the hate-filled perps until the police arrived–the video of it is still on YT). Are those the HATE CRIMES he’s blathering on about? Nothing was ever a national emergency while that crap was going on on a daily basis. There was no outcry for a “national dialogue” about black racism and violence against Jews and whites, nothing.

      Or how about the continual rapes and murders of “anglos” by our newly arrived “Americans” from south of the border? And what about that organization of theirs, The Race? La Raza says of the mestizos that “for the race everything, outside of the race nothing.” That sounds like supremacist ideology to me, and it is all over the place in our schools and colleges…we even have members of “The Race” on the SCOTUS. I don’t think we have any KKK members on the SCOTUS, but I could be mistaken…./sarc How about a “national dialogue” on this racist organization with its supremacist ideology?

      I’m waiting.

      (P.S. Stop demonizing whites, Mr. President. This is a HUGE part of this problem.)

      Humiliate people long enough and a wildness bursts from them…Salman Rushdie

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    • Dutchman says:

      He also stated a link between signing such legislation, and immigration law.
      Like DACA, if they refuse to give on immigration, to get their red letter, it exposes their true priorities and hypocrisy.

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    • antiqueiron says:

      Except all your points mentioned are bad ideas. “hate police,” scouring social media for so called “hate”, “video games” really? “mental health = so called “hate crimes,” “Rapid removal of firearms” so, there goes any due process. In the first place, there is NO such thing as a “hate crime.” Hate is a natural human emotion. Nothing wrong with hating something. Some things need to be & should be hated. Such as injustice, false accusations, socialism, the deep state etc. We do not and cannot criminalize human emotions. That would be a progressive concept. In America, we do not tolerate though police. A crime is a crime. It matters not WHY a crime was committed, it matters only THAT a crime was committed. The reasons behind it are totally irrelevant. We MUST get back to that.

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  22. jus wundrin says:

    If Trump signs a red flag law bill, its a deal killer. Did he forget how judges interpreted his refugee bans based on what he said during the campaign and blocked them?

    One is guilty until proven innocent.

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  23. 4220ma says:

    I don’t really know yet if I like this idea, but I would think that very quick and sever punishment for these crimes if these type assaults would at least slow some of them down. Like public hanging.

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  24. Colorado Conservative says:

    See this picture at the Gateway Pundit. It is the images of 2019 people who murdered 4 or more people at one time using guns. So where exactly is the white supremacy???? https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/photos-every-us-mass-shooter-in-2019-who-shot-four-or-more-people/

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    • Alligator Gar says:

      Oh, it’s always whitey’s fault in America, dontchknow? We are the resident evil and all other colors are oppressed because we exist. Once we are all dead, the Earth will be a real paradise….you know, like Somalia./sarc

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  25. Speaking of RED FLAGS, please be aware of the mindset of the professionals who will be making Red Flag decisions. I hope POTUS knows about this.

    NEW 2019 AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION GUIDELINES:

    TRADITIONAL MASCULINITY IS HARMFUL AND MUST BE CORRECTED.

    “If we can change men,” Dr. Ryon McDermott, a psychologist who helped draft the guidelines wrote, “we can change the world.”

    “In the APA’s “first ever” set of guidelines to help psychologists work with men and boys, the association states that “traditional masculinity is psychologically harmful,” and “causes damage that echoes both inwardly and outwardly.”

    “But what is ‘traditional masculinity’ anyway? The APA says traditional masculinity is defined by “stoicism, competitiveness, dominance and aggression.” It’s found in men’s resilience in the face of adversity and insistence on “looking tough” despite mental suffering, and in their tendency to handle emotional strain with anger.”

    “According to the APA, “traditional masculinity ideology has been shown to limit males’ psychological development, constrain their behavior, result in gender role strain and gender role conflict and negatively influence mental health and physical health.”

    The association blames this masculinity for the fact that 90 percent of homicides in the US are committed by men, and for the fact that men are over three times more likely to die from suicide than women. Boys are also far more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD than girls, and suffer harsher punishments for misbehaving in school.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As such, the APA is instructing psychiatrists to change how they talk to their male patients. Clinicians, the association says, must be aware of and challenge “dominant masculine ideals,” and “combat these forces.”

    Furthermore, in a nod to the social justice warrior (SJW) movement, they must “understand how power, privilege and sexism work” to both benefit and harm men.

    “If we can change men,” Dr. Ryon McDermott, a psychologist who helped draft the guidelines wrote, “we can change the world.”

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  26. Mons Meg-Son of Liberty says:

    With regards to the El Paso Walmart Shooting; Would Mr.Trump,Senators Toomey, Manchin,and Casey or any other Federal Politician advocating additional Gun Control; ” COMMON SENSE” or otherwise,PLEASE EXPLAIN TO AMERICANS: HOW DID THE SHOOTER KILL 22 and WOUND AT THE LEAST 26 PEOPLE WITH ONLY 30 ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION? Maybe he had some of those “MAGIC BULLETS” left over from THE POLITICAL MURDER of JFK. – IN THE REALM of GUN CONTROL and SOCIAL ENGINEERING: FACTS DON’T MATTER : APPARENTLY!

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