Michael Pillsbury Outlines China’s Biggest Miscalculation…

Great interview segment between Lou Dobbs and Michael Pillsbury discussing the status of the U.S-China trade conflict.  Pillsbury notes how the Chinese analysts likely fell into the trap of believing what most western financial media were saying about domestic opposition to President Trump’s policies.

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One of the aspects to President Trump that bears a continual reminder is the importance of actual economic victory over optical political victory.   President Trump is primarily focused on the former, and only concerned about the latter as it relates to his goal:

….to fundamentally restructure the way the American economy interacts with the global community. Economic security is national security.

That’s what President Trump cares about. President Trump’s outlook on economic security is only superseded by one measure: his willingness to use the U.S. military to protect U.S. persons from physical threats of harm.

Withdrawing the tentacles of global exfiltration of American wealth; vis-a-vis the structural reset of the U.S. economy and how it engages with the global trade systems; is the pinnacle focus of President Trump. All other issues are ‘less than’; and the internal politics within Washington DC is far, far, less than in this set of priorities.

It may be uncomfortable for many to see and/or admit, but all other priorities held by supporters of President Trump fall below his primary economic objective.  American economic priority is the stuff Donald Trump has discussed, shared, considered and sought counsel on for over 30 years.

Any ancillary policy or issue that intersects with Trump’s focus on the U.S. economy gets priority [See: Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP); Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP); and Paris Climate Treaty as examples].  However, all issues which fall farther away from the economy are downstream priorities.

Within the small dot, disproportionately emphasized by pundits, lays the internal politics of DC.  President Trump has spooky good political instincts, yet his valuation of politics is proportional to the necessity of politics in achieving the economic transformation.

Everything else is less-than.

Everything.

Trump may cede ground on specific issues that make his supporters angry; but he will never cede ground on an issue that intersects with his global economic realignment.

It’s worth keeping that in mind.

Apparently China did not know that.

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174 Responses to Michael Pillsbury Outlines China’s Biggest Miscalculation…

  1. Marygrace Powers says:

    Today a MAJOR BLOW TO CHINESE AGGRESSION.”

    “GLOBALISTS LOST TODAY BIG TIME”

    “A VERY IMPORTANT DAY FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP.”

    Dr. Michael Pillsbury

    GOD BLESS VSGPDJT.

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    • piper567 says:

      Marygrace, a friend texted me > Pillsbury’s appearance on Dobbs, to say Pillsbury is now a Trump advisor!! I hadn’t known this.
      goodstuff.

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    • Rachel Guess says:

      Marygrace,

      The ultimate irony is that China can’t walk away for long. I predict they will blink and be contacting POTUS again within a very short time to open negotiations again because the Chinese economy is not doing very well currently.

      Their entire economy is based on revenues from the export of durable goods, and the US market makes up more than 1/4 of the global market. At less than half the size of the US market, the Chinese economy can’t survive for long without the US, while the US economy can survive just fine without China. The US market is the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

      China either learns how to play ball on a level playing field, or they will have to pay the 25% tariffs imposed to sell their goods in our market, while either scenario is good for the Main Street USA! STILL WINNING!

      MAGA!

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      • Reloader says:

        Criminality is very deeply ingrained in all socialists & communists. Communism is not an idealogy, really … and it isn’t a legitimate economic structure. Communism is simply where Criminals are in complete control. Liars, Thieves, Thugs and Murderers. Khruschev taught us that socialism is merely a ploy to lead useful idiots to communism. We should just call it “Criminalism” really. And that is the Chinese Communist Party. Criminals. They know and work only in wrongs and evil.

        And it is going to take a long time for them. For China to “(learn) how to play ball on a level playing field” is NOT POSSIBLE for the current leadership of the Chinese Criminalist Party. NOT POSSIBLE. The current leadership will have to die of old age before the decent people of China will be free. And this means that VSGPDJT will of NECESSITY have to destroy the Chinese economy, in the short term. Like, for the next 25 years.

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        • Peoria Jones says:

          I feel sorry for the lowly Chinese people much the same as I do for some of our invaders from south of the border. Horrible leaders and culture – but no good will come from suckering our nation.

          The only way any of these corrupt/totalitarian nations will provide better lives for their people, is if their people demand it from within, and the USA remains viable by preserving our unique culture and economy.

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          • RKEESX says:

            I DON’T DISAGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT. HOWEVER, THIS COUNTRY SHOULD FOLLOW YOUR GOOD ADVICE AND DEMAND THE CORRUPT BE PUT IN JAIL. WE CAN NOT AFFORD TO ALLOW THIS THUGGERY TO CONTINUE.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Reloder;
          I call it Conmunism, cause it IS a ‘Con’ of the useful idiots, beyond that,,I agree with your assesment.
          In order to play ‘by the rules’, with enforcement mechanisms, to insure compliance, would mean China does one of two things.

          Becomes a ‘third world’ developing economy, without frankly much to offer. NO innovation, and such endemic corruption that they cannot compete in the global economy.

          Or, ‘open up’ their markets, but more importantly their SOCIETY. Freedom of THOUGHT leads to innovation. The same kind of thinking that invents a new widget in their garage, or a more efficient way to make an existing widget, is the same kind of thinking that would question the Government, and any such quedtioning is a threat which must be brutally oppressed.

          Centrally controlled economies, Conmunist economies, can NOT compete with free market Capitalist Democracies. Its no contest.

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          • No Communist Government will EVER permit the CREATIVE DESTRUCTION by PRIVATE ENTERPRISES to reduce its State-Owned Enterprise RICE BOWLS.

            The only way forward is DESTRUCTION of the COMMUNIST STATE
            … by – as POTUS knows – Destruction of its State-Owned Enterprise RICE BOWLS.

            See that light at the end of the tunnel, China?
            It’s the TRUMP TRAIN powered by MAGAnomics!

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        • 3rdday61 says:

          What’s doubly criminal, is that everything that China makes is absolute junk .Everything.
          The auto parts that flood the aftermarket, the dog food that killed my aunts dog, the drywall pushed onto the construction market, the junk filling up the ‘home’ stores. Every damn thing they make is absolute junk. It’s a knockoff of somebody else’s design.
          I have no idea about anything that may be ‘assembled’ in China, but I guaran dam tee you, that if it is ‘Made’ in China, it is junk. It has to be force fed to be consumed.

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          • john says:

            Their steel is soft, full of impurities and unweldable.

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            • Chimpy says:

              That is incorrect. I have used Chinese steel for decades. The metallurgy is fine.

              I am all for tariffs and leveling the playing field. MAGA.

              But, I will speak up when false statements are made.

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              • Rockindubya says:

                Drill bits? Taps and dies? Maybe you have the inside track on “good” Chinese goods. I gave up on their junk long ago.

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                • GB Bari says:

                  I have had the exact same experience. No tool made in China have ever held up to hard tasks for any reasonable period of time; often failing within the first 2 to 10 times of usage. Box wrenches strip easily; open end wrenches strip easily; Phillips screwdriver tips strip easily; sockets strip out very easily. Socket drivers’ ratchet mechanisms are weak and fail prematurely.

                  That is all caused by soft, cheap metal.

                  No Chinese tools for this man. They are junk.

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                • Chimpy says:

                  Long ago, your comments on the inferiority of Chinese materials would have been correct. But, for the past ~15-20 years, I have seen any metallurgical issues of significance.

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          • Madhatton says:

            But they are big time thieves / plagiarists & imitators . Endemic theft of intellectual property & innovations . Plus inbedding their spies & corrupting healthy economies / gov’ts works well for them … looking @ you mitch , ryan , difi ,bit’em , klintoons . Etc .

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          • Madhatton says:

            But they are big time thieves / plagiarists & imitators . Endemic theft of intellectual property & innovations . Plus inbedding their spies & corrupting healthy economies / gov’ts works well for them … looking @ you mitch , ryan , difi ,bit’em , klintoons . Etc .

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          • Madhatton says:

            But they are big time thieves / plagiarists & imitators . Endemic theft of intellectual property & innovations . Plus inbedding their spies & corrupting healthy economies / gov’ts works well for them … looking @ you mitch , ryan , difi ,bit’em , klintoons . Etc .

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          • Bill says:

            So just think about the Chinese 5G network systems, probably enabling Chinese spying and with reliability issues of Chinese products, why would any country want their communication systems running on Chinese JUNK?

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          • Dave Jensen says:

            You are the first commentator that has said that besides me, that I am aware of. It iS junk.. Chinese bearings, appliances, everything you can think of lasts only a short time and when it does work, works poorly. Recently my cousin and I were talking. She agreed. Recently I bought a small electric heater that never worked right and quit completely after a couple months. She has a fan her grandparents had. It is over 60 years old and works perfectly yet. Made in America by Westinghouse. They can keep their inferior crap.

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            • 3rdday61 says:

              I speak from 40+yrs of fixing stuff. As a certified mechanic for most of it, but I’ve repaired and/or replaced just about everything. We are going back to making stuff here again. It’s a beautiful thing.

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        • Mark L. says:

          The next phase shall be interesting to watch. Your point is well taken.
          Many years ago a major account of mine tried to do business in Mother Russia. Too much graft and under the table payments. They pulled out eventually. China is not a country ruled by law. Each province, each city and town has their own little corrupt fiefdom.

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          • Nordic Breed says:

            True, but ALL are bound to the Chinese Central Committee. Anyone who steps out of line will be swiftly and brutally dealt with. This is why, China-wide, churches are being destroyed and children are being forbidden to attend or to have Bibles. The CCC plans to destroy all religion in favor of Communist ideology ASAP. Evil, evil, evil.

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        • And we have OUR VERY OWN CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION HERE: THE DNC along with several others…ALL money is funneled to the dnc from the various org including CoC, companies of the Business Round Table and other groups. The Hammer has been slammed on China pretty hard, up is now up to the Chinese and ultimately the globalists… PDJT is NOT going to blink BUT they (globalists, china) already have!!!

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          • cali says:

            @eagledri9ver50: ^^^^^^^^This!!!!

            We all must keep in mind: The Chinese have always believed what they were promised by the Hussein/HRC/Kerry and state dept anti-American gang and their partners in the EU who made so many deals with China with the intent to reduce the USA to serfdom.

            We all know that the ultimate goal sponsored, designed and put into action by the UK/British Crown was the one world order.
            Well the world order has been here quite some time and president Trump knowing the goal is taking it apart in favor of America First. If America is healthy the world over is healthy too and everybody prospers.

            China and XI having colluded with Hussein/HRC not only during the election but also in their activities across the US and assisted by the democrats and republicans alike.

            Here is where China’s XI miscalculated after hoping and betting on a HRC administration: President Trump is not Hussein, Hillary or Bush.

            XI’s screw up goes back to the beginning of the Trump administration. Every country the president visited at the beginning of his administration guess who visited right afterwards?

            None other than Hussein himself assisted by Kerry and Hillary. Now why would they follow president Trump ? Because they promised every country but mostly that of XI and Iran among a host of others that president Trump would NOT last more than a year in office.

            XI now realizes that president Trump will go nowhere and most certainly re-elected. Xi and his leaders are now finding themselves in a conundrum they can’t escape. They bet on the wrong horse. They are ph%ket!

            Game on!

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            • Cali, you are right on! Thank You for posting!

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            • OHHHH YEAH!!! Reminds me of a song: “Good Golly, Miss Molly”!!! The Chinese believed the “dnc” stories and know they are between a rock and hard place…

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            • jets says:

              China now realizes Trump is going nowhere and most certainly re-elected.
              That statement leads me to believe that if/when China concedes then it is also all over for the globalists, the bought senators, the big club and the US COC. These groups will have to stop fighting Trump and join (reluctantly) the America First strategy. Other minor players have already abandoned the globalist agenda and moved to their country first, e,g, Brazil, Japan, Poland, the Brexit movement, Italy, and German banks and automakers but not German politicians….yet. China falling to Trump trade requirements will change everything

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          • “It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress.”

            ― Mark Twain

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        • Reloaded, this is how I see it too. Or if they do sign a trade deal, it will be broken almost on day one. I hope the verification mechanism are iron clad.

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        • Reloaded, this is how I see it too. Or if they do sign a trade deal, it will be broken almost on day one. I hope the verification mechanism are iron clad.

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          • The only way to make a Deal work with China:

            • Implement Enforcement BEFOREHAND.

            • Institute Tariffs to ESCROW funds for Enforcement BEFOREHAND.

            • Complete Enforcement of open cases BEFOREHAND.

            • Sustain Tariffs to REPLENISH funds for Enforcement CONTINUOUSLY.

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        • thomaspsyche says:

          Agree but I like term to be “Crimemunist Party” clearer term to name and sound😎

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        • Nordic Breed says:

          Communism is the spawn of Satan because he was a liar and a murderer from the beginning, as Jesus said. Everything you wrote here is about lying and murdering people for the dominance and wealth of a few. No communist leader, in China or in this country, lives according to the rules of the ordinary citizen. If he did, Bernie Sanders would not have 3 mansions and millions of dollars after the 2016 election. AOC would not be living in an elite apartment complex and wearing $3000 outfits while the rest of us are lucky to be able to buy a few decent outfits a year. Never believe a word these so-called socialists who are really communists say. They are in it for themselves and don’t care about the ordinary person. Behind them is Satan and his minions. If you keep that in mind, you won’t be led astray by their empty promises.

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        • Carrie2 says:

          Reloader, I agree. I have also said many times no socialism vaunted here but outright communism as myself and my spouse know the difference as I Iived under socialism and he escape after some yrs. communism so wear able to distinguish the difference when ever Bernne or AOC bark and spout outright lies. Just way to fool many who think all is free by will be fully owned by communists, and also they do not understand that under socialism somebody has to be working to support freebies.

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      • Austin Holdout says:

        Totally agree with you Rachael. In spite of any diminution in trade and increase in prices that will result, I think American consumers are too addicted to cheap Chinese crap. Maybe making it not so cheap will help all of us “reset” our buying and consuming habits. And maybe it’ll give small American manufacturing businesses a fighting chance.

        I don’t get scared by the commentators who say “this is a huge new tax” and “inflation”. If you look at the list of items subject to tariffs, many of them are discretionary-we can decide whether we really need new bed sheets right now or buy them from Vietnam or buy American made.

        I see the problem in industries (mainly auto) where manufacturers have made themselves dependent on China for components. Those businesses (and their lobbyists at the AMA and CofC) seem to be the source of all of the dire warnings about the impact of tariffs. The same people who make their fortunes by using cheap Chinese labor.

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      • PoCoNoMo says:

        I just posted an video-link about this, which talks about how Main Street investors can potentially suffer, and about how Wall Street’s intertwined with the Communist Party of China – it explains why they’re putting so much pressure on Trump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IilFBbejIjY&t=906s

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      • Orville R. Bacher says:

        1. The sum of U.S. trade deficits with China exceeds $5 Trillion over the past 30 years. These U.S. dollars are used by the Chinese Communist Party Dictatorship to enslave their own citizens, but most importantly to weaken the United States.
        2. China’s Achilles Heel is the Yuan/US dollar peg. China desperately needs U.S. dollars (from exports, and most recently from borrowing) to keep buying the Yuan, to keep the Yuan from falling through the floor. And China is the only buyer of Yuan in the world. Without the USD peg, China would be experiencing Hyperinflation right now. The Chinese printing press depends on the US dollar peg.
        3.There is NO DEAL available with the Chinese Dictatorship which benefits the American People. Short term gains for the U.S. (in name only) Globalists is death by a thousand cuts for America’s Middle Class.
        4. You can fight China now, or you will fight them later. Remember Japan and Germany in the 1930’s. In-your-face militarism. That is the Chinese Communist Party.

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        • I was just pondering how our Trade “Confrontation” might play out.

          China’s Exports to the USA are already declining.

          Now they’ll be plummeting.

          So will their OUTFLOW of USD to pay for Food and Raw Materials.

          This has already depleted their Foreign Currency Reserves by 30-40% IIRC.

          They’re about PAY the PIPER … or START a WAR.

          Trouble is, they CANNOT FEED the PEOPLE in a WAR.

          Wondering why ELSE they were going home to check on their Agricultural Inventories?

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          • Robert Smith says:

            What neighboring countries can they invade to secure food if not prosperity? They can be militarily active but I don’t think they can get enough food. They have to purchase in bulk.

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          • Bill says:

            I think POTUS should put an export tariff on food products (soybeans, corn, pork etc.) to china of 25%

            But there is a loophole that you can get the stuff from Mexico, it is only a 10% tariff.
            Hopefully the Mexicans would charge a 10% handling fee to make Mexico great again!

            I see this as a win-win for us. Reduce some congestion at our ports, and provide some high paying jobs for Mexico.
            MAGA

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      • drlou007 says:

        Saving face is often more important to the Chinese than saving their rear ends so I would not look for them to hurry back to the negotiating table. Furthermore, Trump has already said he is in no hurry and when they do come back — and they will for all the reasons you mention — Trump will insist that they return to the positions they have already agreed to — no backtracking. This is undoubtedly causing a lot of turmoil in China especially because it probably relates to verification of the deal. China is now saying “trust us” and Trump says we do trust you and we will verify. Thank God for our President.

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    • Lindenlee says:

      And he was so jolly and happy to see it!

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      • ann says:

        Average American understand the stakes and know we have a duty to defend our country from economic predators and exploitive invasions. . The Uniparty declared war on citizens right to take our control back from this clan of faithless leaders who sold our country and abuses citizens.

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        • drlou007 says:

          I do hope you are right. But I see too many Useful Idiots, i.e. Democrats and RINOs, who side with the one world Globalists to the detriment of America. The Globalists are now shouting these tariffs will hurt the economy and cost jobs. No one asks them what they think $500B trade deficit every year does to the economy? No one reminds them what their NAFTA deal did to jobs and our manufacturing base. No one says to the Globalists, you wanted TPP too, what would that have done to America’s economy?

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    • nats1mom says:

      YES! “God Bless VSGPDJT.” Amen.

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  2. “Chamber of Whores”

    Hahahahahahaha

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  3. WES says:

    Perot: I replied to your query on Moscow previous thread! Regards!

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  4. montanamel says:

    Way to go…. It is about time that we fed the ChiComs some of their own s*it….
    This miss reading of our intents at the table needs to cost them dearly…

    I’d suggest that the “additional 300 bil” in imports yet to be listed for tariff’s ….be listed on Monday AM, with an effective date of say….June 14th or so…. Lay them on at 25% for starters.

    We have their fingers in the door frame….no time like the present to slam the door on them… AND, don’t forget their US Bond CUSIP numbers…they need to be erased from the registry…no proof = no sales….freezes those Trillions in place without recourse….not to mentioning grabbing a few oil tankers from Iran headed for China…. sanctions and all that…
    THEN… Most favored trade status along with WTO membership goes poof….adios chinks!
    Check-6

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  5. WES says:

    What gets me is why none of them bothered to read President Trump’s book!

    Oh, I know why! They all went to US universities!

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  6. ParteaGirl says:

    Done!

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  7. dissonant1 says:

    All part of the big dance. When the Politburo comes to understand VSGPDJT being deadly serious about this, the impact of the tariffs on them, and that they will have to deal with him for 5 more years (Chamber of Whores/Horrors and bought politicians notwithstanding), they will decide to dance with our President – that is, if they are smart and well informed (unlike Iran). They also ought to know that he is too smart to put up with the BS they have been pulling on us for decades. And “nice little WTO membership and MFN status you have there – would be a shame if anything happened to them.” Their choice but we win long term no matter how they go.

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  8. Shop says:

    I applaud President Trump for finally standing up to the decades long war by CCP on America. This war has been aided and abetted by Wall St, big corporations, the establishment of both parties and their fellow travelers in the media. Selfish traitors of the American people.

    While I disagree with many of President Trump’s neocon inspired foreign policy positions, my hat’s off to his courage to standup to the authoritarian CCP and say no more!

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    • dissonant1 says:

      “Neocon inspired foreign policy positions”? Care to elaborate? All the Neocons absolutely hate him! He must be doing something against their interests!? All I’ve heard is “America First” and that other countries need to start paying their own way and looking after their own interests.

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      • Pyrran says:

        As long as he doesn’t let John Bolton push him into another war, I think Trump will be fine. He did campaign against sending the US military into every country we have a problem with and he is right. I with he hadn’t hired Bolton. That guy never met a war he didn’t like.

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        • dissonant1 says:

          I don’t like Bolton either but President Trump has him on a leash. The President made a comment the other day about Bolton being a valuable advisor although they did not agree on everything. I think he is using Bolton as his pitbull to put a little fear into other countries in appropriate circumstances – kind of like like when North Vietnam was goaded into thinking Nixon was crazy (if you are old enough to remember that strategy).

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          • JackB says:

            How did that work out for Nixon? You remember that North Vietnam won that war and marched right into Saigon.

            What happened to the “domino theory” the neocons claimed would happen if we didn’t defeat Ho Chi Minh?

            Selling arms to Iran, who are apparently the biggest sponsor of terrorism according to the neocons to get cash to illegally arm a ragtag militia to topple the elected government of Nicaragua where Abrams was convicted of a felony.

            The neocons conveniently obfuscate that neither Iran nor Saddam sent a single terrorist to take down the World Trade Center. In fact 80% of the terrorists were from neocon bosom buddy Saudi Arabia.

            The neocons have not got one thing right. Oh, yeah, how to forget their Saddam is Osama’s best pal and has WMD and we’ll be greeted as liberators that led to the single biggest strategic disaster for the US in recent memory. Making Iraq a haven for radical Islamic jihadists when they had no space to even breathe in Saddam’s Iraq.

            For an ideological group that has consistently created disasters in foreign policy whenever they were near levers of power to be in key positions of influence in the Trump administration says something.

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            • Jack is Back says:

              @JackB – a bit of history clarification, sir. And yes, I am making an assumption that, via the way you have shaped your comments, you view the War in South Vietnam in a certain way. If not, then feel free to respond, or not, whatever suits you.

              By “that war”, which war are you referring to North Vietnam having won? Not the one that South Vietnam & the United States defeated them in 1972, which is when we left Vietnam with a peace treaty that we forced them to sign by virtue of bombing the hoot out of them. Oh, and we signed that treaty as partner to South Vietnam, which finally by that point had an ARVN that could stand up to the commie bahstids — provided they had the arms, munitions and air support — which the United States promised to provide should the North attack again.

              Said promise being broken, of course, by the 94th Congress – Democrat dominated; the “Watergate” Congress. Even then, the North didn’t just “march right into Saigon” – for two months the ARVN held against a northern offensive backed by TEN armored divisions. This huge force was estimated by Ho Chi Minh as being sufficient to withstand what they surely thought was to be massive US response to the North’s betrayal of the peace treaty and push to conquer SVN. Ho reasoned the NVA would lose 60% of those forces, and reckoned this an acceptable loss if it could offer a good chance of conquering Saigon and the South. Like the rest of the world, Ho was surprised the US would not honor our commitment to support the ARVN – as we had promised. The Republic of SVN only collapsed after April 10th, 1975 – the night President Ford went on TV to the nation, begging the Congress to honor our promise.

              Our allies would have held. If we would have kept our promise. Now you know why we didn’t keep that promise… and who is to blame for that violation of holy trust.

              Democrats betrayed our ARVN allies, but like the despicable scum cowards they are and with the narrative-shaping help from Pravda media, leftist academia, sure have succeeded in this truth not seeing much light in common discourse, haven’t they?

              Again, we find Orwell was right. Democrats, via their reshaping of history, turned this, their stark betrayal into the mantra “United States defeated in Vietnam”… “The US lost the war in Vietnam”… and other lies that conveniently leave their fault in this tragedy out of the discourse, out of our consciousness.

              Rinse, Lather, Repeat (… the big Lie…). Over and over again…

              and let the subsequent mass of low-information thinkers embrace the mantra because it’s mentally too hard to see the truth otherwise. After a time, the cacophony of so many people repeating this lie, seeing it become “their” truth, and

              How about some consequences of that betrayal?

              The Boat People – about 1/2 million which died in escaping Ho’s subsequent commie Hell – directly due to democrat betrayal.

              The “re-education camps” immediately instituted by the victorious commies – another 300,000 killed.

              Cambodia and the Killing Fields – two million killed – directly due to the democrat betrayal. Oh, you did mention something about “what happened to the domino theory”. Well, sir, The Khmer Rouge & Cambodia is what happened to the domino theory.

              The above is but one snippet of American History where – as before, and surely again in the future – Democrats will betray the American people in their Godless quest for power.
              It’s one I lived through – no amount of Orwellian rewriting of history, or subsequent zombie-like mantra repetition of their lies by the great majority of those on the left – can change the immutable truth that I saw this happen with my own eyes. And I can still see the blood on their hands.

              If you’re of a mind to spend five minutes watching a vid on this, by someone who explains the above better than I do, see the Prager video on “The Truth about the Vietnam War” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hqYGHZCJwk&t=63s.

              “…I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man…”
              Thomas Jefferson

              The JG

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              • Eastender says:

                Thank you for providing some history on the Vietnam War. I’m embarrassed to say, I was unaware about much of what you have explained went on with that war and how the Dems let South Vietnam down following the conclusion of the war.

                Interesting to see yet another example of how much the Democrats really hate their own Country in this very clear example all those years ago and continuing with their actions to this very day. How sad for our Country. May all who are blind to their actions finally open their eyes and see them for what they are. Pure Evil.

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                • Jack is Back says:

                  Tx, EastEnder – and you have nothing to be embarassed about.

                  The layers of misinformation are so deep, have been piled upon us so often for so long, that it really does feel like we live in the Matrix (great movie, btw, at least the first one). Our blogs, our forums are like water for a thirsty man, and getting red-pilled is a great feeling because we get two things the Left can’t take away from us: The Truth, and discovering more fellow Americans

                  But we are fortunate, East… First, we are Americans. Second, we have independent, right thinking voices amongst our fellow Americans. Sundance here… Prager, or Schlichter over at Townhall. Or how about Devin Nunes taking on Spygate, and for my part, seeing a true Patriot like Adm. Mike Rogers discover the spying and going direct to the FISA court to reveal the crime? So many others. And we have a President who fights.

                  Truly, we are blessed Eastender – the above are True Americans all, and the best thing about this… we’re on the same side as them!

                  En Libertad, Patriot…

                  The JG

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              • Beenthere says:

                Thanks for the history lesson. I will have a look at that Prager video.

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              • Jack…some people just don’t get that part of history…and don’t want to remember what was done the ARVN

                (Vietnam Vet ’71-’72)

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              • meow4me2 says:

                Thanks, Jack. I was just a kid when Vietnam fell and I have only dim memories of the era. I remember hoping it ended before my brother got called up for the draft. My parents would send me out of the room when the war images came on in the news. Didn’t want me traumatized, I guess. Anyway, it’s nice to learn the real history behind it and not the sound bite history of the media.

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              • pyromancer76 says:

                JackisBack, thanks for the clarification. This is the way I knew the war happened. We won, but that win was nullified by the marxists (too many in the Dems, but not only the Dems) in this country.

                Unfortunately, we should not have been at war in Asia — except Korea, I believe, a finalization of WWII. Nor should we have been at war in the Middle East. We need to protect America, fair and free trade (safety of the oceans), and our hemisphere. Tough enough job. Too many young Americans have died for the wrong reasons.

                To lay all the mistakes at the feet of Neocons, might not enable us to think clearly and deeply about the forces attempting to move toward totalitarian control. We know their governmental/economic methods do not work; they finally run themselves into ruin. Better to let them have enough rope to hang themselves and keep our powder dry — but available.

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                • Jack is Back says:

                  hey @Pyromancer76 – tx, hombre, and good points you bring up, too. I think there is substantial evidence for the domino theory aspect of Anglo-American foreign policy in the 60’s. For background’s sake, and for younger readers just coming to this point, the thought back then was, if we didn’t fight in ‘Nam, other SE Asian countries would have fallen to communist aggression. Like dominoes, hence the nickname.

                  Let’s look at historical context. Right after WWII, the entire world had seen an attempted communist takeover of Iran foiled by the West. Ditto Greece in the 1950’s. Of course, there’s Korea, the communist victory in mainland China, then there’s the Malaya communist insurgency (60’s to 1989, ending only with fall of Soviet Union and dissolution of Soviet East European bloc). The Philippines and the Moro insurgency since that time. So our priors would have seen a world with constant and unwavering communist aggression, stopped only by force of arms. The world in 1950’s-1960’s saw…
                  > How not fighting the commies resulted in victories for them (China);
                  > how not fighting them decisively resulted in stalemates (Korea),
                  > how fighting and/or providing constant support-by-proxy stunted or defeated them (Greece, Iran, Malaya, Philippines),
                  > and tragically, how a lost victory could lead literally, to other nations falling into the hell of communism (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia)

                  It’s difficult to agree with you in saying we should not have been at war in Asia. I try to understand the world as it was then, through the eyes of the people who had to make the decisions affecting those lives back then, and it’s a mixed bag. We had victories (Korea); defeats (China); and victories which we let slip into tragedy (Vietnam).

                  For me, the key points to remember are why and how an event or events happened. When we fought with determination, we won. Why and how we lost, imho, are due entirely to a lack of political resolve from within our boundaries.

                  History lays this enervation of our will entirely at the feet of the left, the democrats, the “useful idiots” of all tyranny, our very own fifth column. And, if you think of it in modern times…
                  > when Carter stabbed our erstwhile ally the Shah of Iran in the back, leading directly to militant islamic terrorism…
                  > when Clinton declined to nab OBL, leading directly to 9/11…
                  > when Clinton/Obama had Qhaddafi killed and plunged Libya into war, thus opening Europe and the West to invasion of radicals…
                  > or when Obama pulled our troops prematurely out of Iraq, choosing not to leave a status of forces agreement in support of Iraq, & the subsequent creation of ISIS in the ensueing power vacuum that departure caused…

                  well, there’s one thing all the above have in common, isn’t there?

                  Man, I could go on about this. Who condemned Eastern Europe to decades of slavery under communism? Three guesses what his party affiliation was (and the first two guesses don’t count). And so many more, hombre, so many more…

                  the JG

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              • Chimpy says:

                I, like Eastender, learned a lot from your post, Jack is Back. The video was excellent, too. I am now committed to learning more on this topic and hopefully undoing all the false history I learned in school.

                I love this board for exactly this reason. Thank you for yet-another eye opener.

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                • Jack is Back says:

                  absolutely agree, sir. Like many, many others, Sundance is in our prayers of thanks and our requests for his protection.

                  “Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes?” – Juvenal

                  Sundance custos vigilet!

                  The JG
                  Semper Paratus

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              • Bill says:

                Adding detail to the history.
                I was there near the end.
                The book by the Pres. wannabe (the JK Flip flop) that came out in the fall of 1971 started to turn the tide, the troop moral went right in the toilet within a couple of weeks.
                Then he and Jane showed up in Hanoi and gave the keys to winning a war that they had already lost to the NVA.

                By Feb 1972 the enemy activity started, and things got ugly.
                The 101st Airborne Division was gone by Christmas ’71 and had been replaced by 3 Cobras and 3-4 Hueys
                Things got a little better when the Cobras got fitted with 20mm prototype Vulcan Gatling guns, and the Hueys got a wire guided rocket system.
                The 2 months mentioned above by Jack was Feb to late April and those choppers could not keep the amount of Armour in check. By my count it was well over 150 Pc.
                We really needed a half dozen A-10’s at that time, but what we had was all we could get.

                By late April the first base in the south fell to the NVA, by mid May Hue was surrounded and the column of those fleeing went on round the clock. Some of the early ones to flee were ARVN’s getting their families out of harms way, and by the time they got back it was too late, the backup support never came!

                A real tearful moment happened on the day I was supposed to rotate out in early May.
                My 2 most faithful employees tried to give me their youngest child, a boy and a girl, both under 2 years of age, to take home and raise as my own. The girl came with a dowry estimated at $10,000. I explained that I would wind up in Jail and they probably would never see their children again, An hour later I was back after having my discharge from the army orders torn up. I finally got out country in mid July.

                The main person responsible for the betrayal was the last SOS for the 44 Magnum Dud.

                Get and read the book Unfit for Command by the swift boat vets.. A real eye opener.

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                • Jack is Back says:

                  hey Bill,

                  What we would not do to keep our children safe. There are no words, sir, for the soul-wrenching you, the parents would have experienced. All the Whiskey and Tequila in the world could not drown that out.

                  USN 76-84 & USCG 84-2000 here. I was too young to serve in Nam, but I saw my cousins come back, changed from their time there. And I remember how they, and others of my fellow Vets were treated in the airport when they came home.

                  I will never forget.

                  En Libertad, Frater –

                  the JG

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            • SwampRatTerrier says:

              Neo CONS are Globalists working towards the One World Order no?

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            • Marygrace Powers says:


              The Truth about the Vietnam War – Prager video per Jack Is Back

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          • Fools Gold says:

            Trump also said he’s the one who has to check Bolton and that he makes the decisions not Bolton. Trump likes hearing all arguments from all sides of his cabinet before HE makes the decision. Any great leader does exactly the same!

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          • Robert Smith says:

            Trump said he’s a moderating influence on Bolton but values his input.

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      • JackB says:

        Bolton, Pompeo, Abrams are direct from neocon central casting.

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    • purpleibby says:

      Come on, Trump ain’t Bush on foreign policy…..he’s just not Obama. I’d say Trump is taking the Reagan approach(Peace Through Strength)….and that’s EXACTLY where we need to be.

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    • Neocon foreign policies? Where? I don’t see it.

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      • Dutchman says:

        You have a pit bull, on a short chain, on your front porch. He’s well trained, and will growl, snap and pull at his chain if anyone walks in front of your house.
        But, one word or signal from you, and he’ll lay down and shut up. A different word, and unhook the chain, and he’ll rip their leg off.
        THATS John Bolton, and I’m FINE with him in the Admin., cause I know PDJT is controlling him.

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  9. WES says:

    What really surprises me is if you are playing poker with President Trump, and he has 650 poker chips and Xi only has 100 poker chips, and President Trump raises you 150 poker chips, how is it Xi still don’t know that he has lost!

    What part of poker don’t you understand?

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  10. Pyrran says:

    Don’t ya just love politics?
    The Democrats are upset that the President of the United States is NOT a Russian agent.
    This is pure, unadulterated, howling at the moon, guys with white coats and straitjackets insanity.
    If we weren’t all watching this in real time, we wouldn’t believe it.
    I think President Obama used the CIA to spy on his political enemies for eight years.
    I think this is the reason the Democrats are going this crazy. If this blows up like I think it will and it turns out the CIA has been spying domestically, I think that is the end of all of them.

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  11. Folks, This is the Key phrase to Remember.
    ~….to fundamentally restructure the way the American economy interacts with the global community. Economic security [IS] National security.~
    Socialism / Communism Economies where ever Tried are an Abject Failure.
    *Ain’t that right N. Korea, Cuba & Venezuela.*

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  12. Mike says:

    While a fan of SD and CTH (kept me sane for the past 3 years), the overlook is US Businesses for the last 30 years actively sought manufacturing in China. In mid 90’s I witnessed mass movement of circuit board machines (warehouses full) to China. Silicon Valley switched to design and prototype then sending files to China for manufacturing. The same repeatable pattern across a majority of US companies. Everything from toilet seats, tools, electronics, nails, deck screws, clothing, furniture, lighting, light bulbs, LED’s, windows, auto parts, bearings, garden hoses, 80% of everything in big box stores is made in China and funded by Wall Street. China is betting its manufacturing tentacles are so deep that more than AG companies will put pressure on Washington.

    I’ve notice some auto parts are being made in India and this is most likely Trumps fall back position, the deal he must make is convincing US manufacturing long term investment in China is worth de-vesting, or stay the course and the US Treasury makes billions in tariffs.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      You left out the part where our highly-trained workers had to go to China to train the Chinese on how to do their jobs.
      It was beneficial to U.S. companies to transfer jobs to China. Our gubmint encouraged it, rewarded companies handsomely. U.S. companies wanted a piece of China’s theoretical market, the one that did – and does – not exist.

      No longer. Those days are over.
      People like Dr Pillsbury and Gordon Chang saw the collapse coming years ago.
      Wise men.

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    • geoffgo says:

      @Mike: I think you neglect to mention that from ~ 1975-2000 it was the financiers (venture capitalists/investors) that DEMANDED the off-shoring – out-sourcing of manufacturing, because it appeared to be the more profitable approach. Add the howls from the “not-in-my-backyard” crowd. On many occasions in financing discussions (>30), I was told that discussions of “nationalism” were not necessary/relevant. Move’em out!

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      • Mike says:

        It’s deeper than you described. If you employed 8-10 people and a US supplier offered to make your product well below your cost, one could concentrate on marketing and sales and gain profitability not dealing with payroll, HR, OSHA, enviro regulations, permits, attendance, & fire department (3rd party warehousing).

        It was done for 1000’s of small companies, well below the radar of corporate investors.

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      • fthoma2014 says:

        It was called “competitive advantage” in my Econ101 class. Lower production costs went into increased profit. A small correction, by the way. Chip manufacturing went to Taiwan, to the first pure play silicon foundry, TSMC, not mainland China. Same for computer boards, etc. At least initially.

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  13. tigsmom says:

    After Mad dog’s canning, our Prez( no link) wanted a Sec of Def for Procurement. The Boeing thingy is interesting for Shannon with his MIT degrees. War mongering is a hand not to be overtly played.

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  14. TigerBear says:

    PBS and I believe it was NPR, Just had Frontline 2: Trump’s Trade War airing from 11 pm to 12 am (west coast time) and it was incredibly slanted and biased. The so called experts, the companies involved ect….all want to just leave China to be China as their profits will be harmed, and to hell with America and Americans. That was the overall gist of the program. (of course they articulated their message better , but I just unwrapped it in basic language. LOL)
    An hour of my life I won’t get back.😄 But I now know it is corporations ruling many in our government and they are complicit, lilly livered and outright malicious towards the WE THE PEOPLE as PROFIT is the only goal! 🙄

    https://www.kpbs.org/news/2019/may/06/frontline-trumps-trade-war/

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    • youme says:

      Good for you in listening to that program. Always know how your enemy thinks.

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    • Kristin DeBacco says:

      I read the Belgian newspapers ( Flemish ones) and they get all their slanted news from pieces like that. They call it a trade war where we all know that it isn’t. It’s a recalibration of years of abuse.
      It’s difficult to make changes to lucrative deals our elected people have orchestrated for themselves. Most of them have never done a day of hard work and worrying to make sure tomorrow will be ok.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Trump’s Trade Massacre is more befitting.

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  15. Bigly says:

    The interview after China with John Solomon was the first interview that made the most sense to me anyway about what the hell it was that gave us 2 years of Russia russia russia.

    Amazing interview with John and Lou – the fbi actually tried to get away with classifying for 25 years the most damning evidence yet to its reputation. Trump needs to tweet that interview, blown away by it.

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  16. “One of the aspects to President Trump that bears a continual reminder is the importance of actual economic victory over optical political victory. President Trump is primarily focused on the former, and only concerned about the latter as it relates to his goal”

    This can’t be stressed enough.

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  17. Austin Holdout says:

    Coincidence that the week negotiations blew up, someone reported a Chinese woman for illegal campaign contributions to Trump and the FBI starts an investigation? It seems too convenient.

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    • SharonKinDC says:

      And considering Zippy Ozero accepted donations online w/o the US citizen certification so the boiler rooms somewhere ‘over there’ were able to donate a lot of dough… yes, it does seem ‘interesting’.

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  18. The Boss says:

    Tariffs are “economic sanctions”. I’ll bet there won’t be any more missile or projectile firings by China’s province known as North Korea over “economic sanctions”. The Chicoms bluff. President Trump does not.

    And BTW, China isn’t the only cheap goods game in town. They have competition, and the competition isn’t being hit with tariffs. It’s less of a big deal to set up shop in another country than the CofC and BR flacks would have one believe. Remember, China imports raw materials. So do other countries.

    It sucks to be China. That I can tell you.

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  19. What amazes me is how long the USA was able to withstand these outright thefts by MNCs and 3rd world slave labor entities.
    Our middle class has been getting more and more productive thanks largely to the PC. All that computing power added massive productivity to the merchant and skilled labor classes but was sucked up rapidly by our slavemasters. Cheap s$*t from China made it seem like we had “more stuff” which synthesized a fake wealth effect. In reality our wealth and lifestyles were being bloodletted in spite of our quantum gains in productivity.
    How did this gutting go unnoticed? I think it was because of the first front in this two front war: Our moral fiber was being rent asunder. Moral integrity was the first to go- that began in the 50s sadly. It has accelerated ever since. Once we began to reject absolute Truth we fell for anything. Cheap people with cheap morals wallowing in cheap goods. Among the counterfeits we accepted was the cheap useless crap that passed for housing, tools, machinery, appliances, cloths, food etc. We were too morally bankrupt to spot the counterfeits.
    Now we have a culture that’s in a mess- look around. Did you ever see so many fat useless people covered in prison tats sporting their mongrel babies riding around aimlessly in dilapidated hooptie mobiles? No pride, no self-respect and no moral integrity.
    Now we get the “legalize drugs” push to do what? Anesthetize the masses. As long as LeRoy and Darleene can get stoned it’s all good in the hood.

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    • Kristin DeBacco says:

      Massive: Who knows what all the pay-offs were. How many people in our government have enriched themselves under the mantel of governance? Just take a look at Hunter Biden. They are not mere millions. The pay offs are billions today. “Billions with a B” as our President says.

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  20. Kristin DeBacco says:

    I will never be an angry supporter. There is only one person in this world today who wants what is best for these great United States. Decades of abuse by presidents and institutions like chamber of commerce is very difficult to rectify. Donald Trump can do it.
    I will never be an angry supporter. Every Trump rally tells us: you do not always get what you want. But our President is well on his way to get most of what he wants for our country, for its people.
    Look what slings and arrows he is willing to take. How many of us could get up every morning after manipulation of truth the day before.
    He is a man with a mission and a vision. There’s only one.

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  21. ivehadit says:

    For however long it takes we will stand strong and tough to… Make.Our.Beloved.America.Great.Again.

    Through the lies and propaganda and foreign intervention into our political discourse (are you listening, China?) we will stand strong.

    WE LOVE YOU, DONALD! THANK YOU FOR FIGHTING FOR US! WE ARE ETERNALLY GRATEFUL!

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  22. We the people know says:

    April 2011…Classic

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  23. Hi, I am old and sorry I am not wise. I do remember when a tv 📺repairman would come to your house to fix a ten year old broken made in the USA📺 tv. The antenna repairman would put up a new antenna to make the 10 year old tv work like new. Now the Chinese made tv in one year is out in the trash. Don’t get me started on collecting pop bottles to buy a weekend of Bubble gum and comic books and baseball cards, if your had a quarter you were rich, USA USA USA. Of the people, for the people, and by the people, WE CAN MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

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  24. LEET says:

    MANY people in DC have made BIG BUCKS off the lopsided, inequitable trade with COMMUNIST China and others. This segment with Dobbs and Pillsbury is an excellent education for any one you know who is still ignorant about what our awesome POTUS Trump is doing for our country! I am sending it on to others.

    It seems China really owns many here in
    the US. Your first clue is those that bark the loudest against All things POTUS Trump. Some are just stupid and useful idiots BUT many who should or would know better are really just showing us that they are owned by outside (ahem Chinese) interests.

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  25. yy4u says:

    ” likely fell into the trap of believing what most western financial media were saying about domestic opposition to President Trump’s policies.”

    This is what I have been saying since Kim pulled out of the NK talks, though Sundance says it much more succinctly.

    When the Democrats took control the House, the Chinese and NK* were dealing with a Republican House, Senate and Presidency. Once the Democrats (who care nothing about the USA only about their own power) took control of the House, the Chinese KNEW they would do everything they could to stop Trump even if it harmed the United States in the process. And they have. I suspect the Chinese even thought Trump might be gone by now and they’d have Pence (an Establishment go along to get along Unipartiest) to deal with and the Dems would once more be calling ALL the shots as they have whether Bush I or Bush II was in office. (Until Trump Democrats were in control whether they won or not). So with Dems controlling the House, they assumed they were back in control of the whole government (they have judiciary, bureaucracy, education, media permanently).

    So China walked and Kim shot off missiles and we have tariffs and now they’re hoping WS will come crashing down on Trump’s head. What they don’t count on is what Sundance outlined. He doesn’t care what WS says. He’s a builder. He got NO money from WS for his election. They don’t own him like they own other Dems AND Repubs. He’s going to continue to try to do what he promised us he’d do: Close the border (thwarted on that one by the Repubs, cut taxes on the middle class (did that), get out of the Paris Accords (check), Not sign TPP (check), renegotiate NAFTA (check), constitutionalist judges (working on it), move embassy to Jerusalem (check), stop allowing the USA to be ripped off by China and Europe (working on it – much push back against him thanks to our own people who have invested in China and Europe and not our own country).

    We are retired and a falling stock market hurts us, but sooner or later, somebody has to do what’s right or EVERYTHING we have will be gone. The Elite don’t see that because they don’t live in the same world in which we live. In a way, they are like the “Cloud Minders” of Stratus (Old Star Trek episode) and we are the Trogs laboring on the planet below to keep their cloud city pure and pristine. Only they live in NY, London, Singapore, LA, SF, Seattle not Stratus. Only difference.

    *Yes, I know NK is a client of China, but Kim WAS talking with Trump. Kim HAD sent bodies of KIA back to the US. Kim HAD released prisoners. Kim HAD stopped shooting missiles over Japan.

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    • Moe Grimm says:

      Well stated yy4u. Well. Stated. The key in what you state is maybe this: “Until Trump Democrats were in control whether they won or not.” +1.

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  26. PoCoNoMo says:

    It take a couple minutes to get into it, but there’s a great video on Chinas economic health and Mainstreet investors, and the very close relationship between Wall Street and the Comunist Party of China here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IilFBbejIjY&t=906s

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  27. Moe Grimm says:

    I don’t give a fiddlin’ (F)k about the chine, their communist country, and their jinping. Men, and women, are buried all over this planet because their Country was and is more important than a monetary hit, and likely a temporary one. Their arms, their legs, their eyes, their minds, their very lives. Their Blood forever seeped into foreign soil. Know any of them? I do. And I know it could have just as easily been me. This Country has become so weak it’s sickening. Literally sickening. To those worried about their 401k’s or direct holdings they should be playing with stop loss orders to begin with in this environment. A trade these days is all of $4.95 most brokerages. The chine needs US far more than we need THEM. The last Chapter of a Book I have says we will fight them one day. Is the idea to strengthen THEM? And this Book is NEVER wrong. Be worthy of the sacrifice of our Founders and those after them. If it’s YOUR turn in the barrel accept it gladly – and in SILENCE.

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    • rustybritches says:

      Hi Mo Grimm:
      I remember when Obama made his trip overseas and after he returned there was a video that came out about how the Chinese laughed and talked about how they would soon own the US and how we would soon be working for them, and your right about fighting them, I think they are building up hoping to beat us and With Obama in the White House didn’t have much hope that we would get past that, However My prayers and hopes is that We have PT and I pray that he can stop them from doing any real harm by bringing that country to her knees
      and your also right about how this country had not thought to much about our People who have fought and died all over this world but there too I think that PT is bringing back the pride this country has in itself and people are beginning to hold their heads up and talk about how great America really always has been and is starting to be great again.
      This Country under P T Is showing great signs of life again, I also remember a time of bubble gum and having a dime on sat to go to the movies and thinking how great life was
      My Ex Husband spent two tours in Vietnam and he got shrapnel from a mine blowing up from the bottom of his feet to the tops of his sholders and we spent many years digging small pieces of that stuff out and he just passed away from health issues related to that country and what they put them threw over there .

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  28. jmclever says:

    The corollary to the statement in the opening paragraph is that the leftist globalist in the US government and MSM and the Chinese communists are one and the same group living in their own information and ideological echo chamber. They didnt miscalculate. They were truly unaware of Trump’s economic reality. A far more dangerous scenario given that the dragon/panda duplicity of the chicoms. some have suggested that China is engaged with Mexican drug cartels and MS13 is their enforcement arm. If that’s true, look for more trouble at the border, not just with NoKo.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-is-supplying-a-drug-war-against-the-united-states_1915904.html

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  29. Elric VIII says:

    Do we get a picture of the Pillsbury Doughboy to join the Wolverines and Koala Kudlow?

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  30. trapper says:

    “Tariffs come off once the Chinese give up their aggression.”

    In other words, the tariffs are permanent.

    The American workers who put PDJT in office want our manufacturing plants back. PDJT is determined to get our manufacturing plants back.

    Look. Here is the nub of it. Chinese manufacturing plants are little more than American plants that were dismantled and shipped there. The only way manufacturing returns to America is by leaving China.

    Start from that simple premise: rebuilding American manufacturing can only happen at the expense of China. Project everything else from that premise. Every action, every reaction, every political position, flows from this. PDJT and his wolverines know this. Xi and Liu know this. The one-world-government open-borders globalists know this. The leftists who would kill America by killing its middle class know this.

    The only thing we are negotiating is a soft crash for the Chinese economy. But have no illusions. Crash it will. The only question is whether the communist regime can survive it. Everything else is just delay, diversion, and avoidance of facing the inevitable

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  31. Larry says:

    When you think about it strategically, you need tariffs if you plan to raise interest rates to historical norms. All countries game this global goal with exchange rate policies, interest rate policies, tariffs and market exclusions (or trade barriers).

    The United States uses interest rate policy to modulate the cost structure of the economy. If things get too heated (too much currency equating to inflation) interest rates raise costs and slow things down. Interest rate policy also affects the “pull forward” effect that Karl Denninger often referred to.

    Throw tariffs into the mix and you can develop an approach to raise interest rates and create barriers to other countries gaming your strong currency.

    Also, China’s One Road One Belt cost structure just became more volatile. Chinese gamesmanship with corrupt third world leaders to encumber those third world economies has a new (competing) revenue stream. Businesses marketing substitute goods (like the Chinese) can now relocate to other jurisdictions that have favourable terms with the United States (no tariffs). If those third world countries develop in a transparent democratic manner, everyone wins.

    Strategically, the “world” needs this trade war.

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  32. Kleen says:

    Even if price of consumer goods go up and I have to cut spending, I still support our POTUS 100%
    China was gaining too much power, It felt like they were peacefully invading the USA.

    Chinese “investors” have been buying our land, homes, companies, politicians etc. keep in mind there are about 2 billion Chinese people. We are a country of about 350 million.

    Our addition to their cheap products was costing us our sovereignty.

    They are doing that globally. They are peacefully and slowly growing their interests all over Africa and many other countries.

    Trump is THE ONLY PERSON with courage to stop them.

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  33. Dave Sanderson says:

    Anybody here SELL big, expensive volumes of stuff for a living?

    Try to imagine that the tons of products you sell just got nailed with a 25% additional surcharge before your biggest, richest (by far) customer can buy them from you. Let the impact of that new business reality sink in for a few moments.

    Big buyers (= America) never kiss up to suppliers / sellers …the big suppliers / sellers ALWAYS have to kiss up to the big buyers. Often (sarcastically) at our place when answering the question “How did it go? …did you get the order?” … we reply: “It went as usual … ‘That was an absolutely DELICIOUS $#!t sandwich, Mister Big … enjoy these great tickets to the next game, and can I trouble you to please have another one of your DELICIOUS $#!t sandwiches, please.’ ”

    China will be crawling back before July 4th.

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  34. Helen says:

    Biden says China no threat, China reneges on deal, PDJT knows that China prefers to deal with Biden. This will work to the Presidents advantage if he goes against Biden in 2020. FBN had their Chicago correspondence visiting Illinois pig farmers yesterday and most said we should get back into TPP, which I saw as FBN Chamber of Commerce propaganda.

    Anyway, I have had enough w/ China. They persecute Christians and have taken advantage of us. Talking about killing a Canadian in retribution for the illegal activity of a Huawei executive. They are out of control. Some of our companies are wising up and moving their businesses to other countries. Raise the tariffs Mr. President. You have my support.

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    • ATheoK says:

      Excellent comment, Helen!

      “FBN had their Chicago correspondence visiting Illinois pig farmers”

      That thought amuses me greatly! 🙂 🙂 :)!
      I have little doubt that FBN is overdramatizing where and who the correspondents actually visited. I cannot visualize any FBN related correspondent within hundreds of yards to a pig/hog farm. :>
      Though the mental imagery of an effete urbanite reporter getting a full olfactory and visual overload of a large hog parm is amusing. Especially where the correspondents empty their stomachs, repeatedly and find it hard to talk when the air is thick with hog wastes.

      ‘Tis more likely they attended a meeting for large pork producers who buy, process and sell pork products. Producers who would be very globalist oriented concerned about selling pork to China.
      While the farmers that actually raise the pigs and hogs for the producers are likely very pro-America and Trump.

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  35. ATheoK says:

    “Pillsbury notes how the Chinese analysts likely fell into the trap of believing what most western financial media were saying about domestic opposition to President Trump’s policies.”

    What is missing from this assumption is that China has dispersed huge amounts of Chinese across the Western world.
    Admittedly, those Chinese persons located in the democrat obsessed urban centers will echo the media; but Chinese are dispersed across America, not just in the cities. Yes,many of our Chinese immigrants were born and raised in cities so feel most comfortable in our cities, but not all immigrated Chinese live in cities.

    It is possible that analysts in China have discounted reports of strong rural America support for Trump, but that is difficult to believe.
    Trump’s rallies are easily researched and cause every democrat rally to pale in comparison.

    Leftist media’s desperate attempts to portray popular support as against fair treaties and that Americans want to remain at China’s mercy is easily dismissed by reading product reviews on any site.
    China’s products are reviled along with the companies that exported occupations and intellectual property to China. Americans have recognized that most products from China lack quality in materials, construction and assembly. Americans also recognize that in China’s factories, honor and quotas trump quality control; as the milk-melamine fiasco proved.

    e.g. Fantes sells a “Made in America” that works extremely well; unlike the cheap imitations.
    When this can opener company brought back a quality can opener that worked, their products were near impossible to purchase as the high demand outpaced production.

    This increasing despisal of Chia’s product is easily available background is easily discovered by analysts, unless their browser access to Western sites is compromised.

    Now that Trump has increased tariffs, those analysts who predicted the POTUS would cave due to public opinion have to explain their failure to China’s leadership. A group notoriously intolerant of failure and overachievers.

    Sundance has nailed China’s approaches and subtle tactical changes. I’ll wait for Sundance to post his expectations for panda/DRAGON‘s next tactic.

    Winning!!

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  36. Dobbs: “One of the most important products in all of this is the ‘education’ of the American Public…”

    Sort of a Great Awakening? Just sayin’.

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  37. pyromancer76 says:

    Sundance keeps a keen eye on reality and understands that President Trump is the only President since the 1980s who can do this, too. Economics. Economics. Economics. Easy really — if you can’t survive and survive well and secure the good survival of your family, you have no freedom and agency in life.

    “Economic security is national security!….President Trump’s outlook on economic security is only superseded by one measure: his willingness to use the U.S. military to protect U.S. persons from physical threats of harm.”

    Without economic security we Americans are slaves/serfs to whoever owns the goods. How many of our so-called leaders and business people were willing to sell us out. Criminals all. I hope justice will be done so we can have “liberty and justice for all.” The brilliance of our founders and their bringing into reality a Constitutional Republic.

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  38. wildbill2u says:

    Here are the two economic poker hands as I see them;
    We can make China’s manufactured goods more expensive to our citizens, but our people have other markets for TVs, phones, etc in the global marketplace such as Taiwan, India, S. Korea and Japan.

    on the other hand, China cannot replace the huge US wealthy retail markets for manufactured goods with undeveloped countries who are cash poor or the EU which has manufactured goods of its own it protects.

    Our exports to China largely rely on soft goods and agricultural commodities. China would have a hard time replacing our bountiful agricultural exports with internal or global markets. Having made the decision to go after the glamorous economic image of a manufacturing powerhouse, they cannot change course to develop an economy that can feed itself.

    It must have come as a huge shock to China that Schumer is supporting the hard line against China.

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  39. dan understahl says:

    Note, the U.S. citizens pay for mailing cost from China to the U.S. Yes, hard to believe but true.
    This is done throught the UPU United Nations Universal Postage Union.
    Now you know why for example, China can sell on ebay and under cut everyone.
    It cost a domestic shipper in the U.S. to ship an item in the US, MORE than it cost China to ship the same item to the U.S while it cost 10 times that amount to ship to China. just one of fhte 1000
    tenacles of the globalist deep state.

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  40. Xi thought President Trump was bluffing when he pointed his big .44 magnum tariff gun at China’s head and said, “Go ahead. Make my day.”

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  41. zorrorides says:

    Sundance – your army of readers has awesome thinking and writing skills.

    We have to replace Uniparty Repugs with some of us MAGA folk in the next election!

    Our VSG POTUS just needs to ask us to do it in his next rally. Look at England; all the Brexit momentum was diverted by their ‘conservative’ establishment, until Nigel Farage said “G’bye Tories, I’m asking the people if they want a dependable Brexit pol on the ballot. Turns out they do!”

    If our President lays down a simple platform and says he supports House and Senate candidates who support the Trump platforms…
    Then incumbent Republicans have opportunity to Trump and Us, the people. Whoever declines taking the pledge… “G’bye, ’twas good to know ya! We’ve chosen another to represent us.”

    Our national slogan, used in a thousand local and federal races, will be,
    “Vote for me. I’m with them – the people and Donald Trump!”

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  42. snowfalling says:

    Great analysis on PDJT’s big picture. Thank you, Sundance. I can see, with this great effort to restructure US economy and fundamentally restructure the way the American economy interacts with the global community, our values will be restored & strengthened in parallel. The two fundamental elements are developed interactively for a healthy nation as DNA. It’s amazing that PDJT has been focusing on this big picture and delivering for it in the presence of matrix-like resistances and challenges. I am so proud of his no ordinary vision, wisdom, and courage in this no ordinary time. Thank God! Continue pray for PDJT, our nation, and ourselves.

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  43. sheliak says:

    Disagree entirely with the premise of this article. Tens of millions of illegal aliens, and tens of millions more on the way, offset all economic advantages for the lower and middle classes such a global restructuring might produce. Hope sundance is not being overly influenced by Conservative, Inc which has all but ceased discussing the current catastrophe on the southern border since the release of the Mueller report.

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  44. dufrst says:

    I think the US should decouple from China. I believe that China has been irrationally and perniciously pursing a parasitic relationship with the US in order to supplant us and spread their evil authoritarian ideology around the globe as a counter to freedom. We need to shore up our alliances in the Indo-Pacific region and constitute and formalize a new regional economic and military alliance among the democratic nations in the region such as India, Indonesia, Philippines, Australia, South Korea, Japan, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and yes, Taiwan. We should treat China in the 21st century as we treated the Soviet Union in the 20th century. China has used the US market to rebuild its military, to rebuild its economy over the years to become the second largest in the world and has used us to consolidate power within the communist party (Xi has been elevated). We need to stop playing games and acting like we are clueless and pursue a containment strategy in the Indo-Pacific region or else we will continue to see China try to rival us in the world at our expense. They steal our jobs, our wealth, our intellectual property, they use our institutions of higher learning to educate their elites, and they enter into partnerships with our startups to keep pace with our innovation. This all must end!

    Yes, China has almost 1.4 billion people and this a massive market that has become more and more lucrative for many of our multinational corporations, but India will surpass China in population in 2022. Brazil has a large population of almost 200 million. Indonesia’s population is also approaching 200 million. We have alternative markets to China that are larger, democratic and not as hostile. It’s time for a decoupling from China and enough of the games! They want global supremacy then they are going to have to take it and earn it. Right now they are trying to steal it.

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  45. dufrst says:

    I think the US should decouple from China. I believe that China has been irrationally and perniciously pursing a parasitic relationship with the US in order to supplant us and spread their evil authoritarian ideology around the globe as a counter to freedom. We need to shore up our alliances in the Indo-Pacific region and constitute and formalize a new regional economic and military alliance among the democratic nations in the region such as India, Indonesia, Philippines, Australia, South Korea, Japan, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and yes, Taiwan. We should treat China in the 21st century as we treated the Soviet Union in the 20th century. China has used the US market to rebuild its military, to rebuild its economy over the years to become the second largest in the world and has used us to consolidate power within the communist party (Xi has been elevated). We need to stop playing games and acting like we are clueless and pursue a containment strategy in the Indo-Pacific region or else we will continue to see China try to rival us in the world at our expense. They steal our jobs, our wealth, our intellectual property, they use our institutions of higher learning to educate their elites, and they enter into partnerships with our startups to keep pace with our innovation. This all must end!

    Yes, China has almost 1.4 billion people and this a massive market that has become more and more lucrative for many of our multinational corporations, but India will surpass China in population in 2022. Brazil has a large population of almost 200 million. Indonesia’s population is also approaching 200 million. We have alternative markets to China that are larger, democratic and not as hostile. It’s time for a decoupling from China and enough of the games! They want global supremacy then they are going to have to take it and earn it. Right now they are trying to steal it.

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