Trey Gowdy Discusses AG Bill Barr and “Spying” -vs- “Surveillance”…

Trey Gowdy appears on Fox News to discuss the current issues and political arguments around “spying” -vs- “wiretaps and surveillance”.  This interview is not quite as noteworthy as one Gowdy gave yesterday… however, the notation about someone wearing a wire into the Trump campaign is interesting. Both interviews are worth watching/mining:

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Last night Trey Gowdy gave an interview that was much more interesting.  In last nights interview Gowdy discusses the two-page EC and FBI origination documents he reviewed where the “Trump Campaign” was outlined as the target:

Fox never uploaded this video. However you can find the interview at 07:15

[prompted, just hit play]

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111 Responses to Trey Gowdy Discusses AG Bill Barr and “Spying” -vs- “Surveillance”…

  1. How is it that Nancy Pelosi believes Mueller but not Barr? Never Trump but always O’Failure? Trey read a lot foe Nunes. He knows.

    Liked by 7 people

  2. Sammy Hains says:

    Gowdy covered up the gun-running operation that hiLlARy Clinton’s State Department and the CIA ran out of Benghazi, which lead to the death of Ambassador Stevens and 4 CIA agents.

    Gowdy allowed the hearings to be all about Clinton’s response time to the attack on the Consulate, rather than what the State Department and CIA were doing there in the first place.

    Liked by 27 people

    • Sammy Hains says:

      For full understanding, Muammar Gaddafi had a substantial arms cache, which 0bama seized after the Lybian invasion and transferred to McCain’s friends in Syria, as a way of arming these ‘rebels’ off the books.

      General Flynn opposed this action, called it irresponsible, and warned that it would aid the rise of a caliphate in Syria and Iraq (which it did, as ISIS). For this, Flynn was fired and then smeared, and eventually prosecuted and personally ruined.

      Liked by 43 people

      • Lone Pine says:

        Thank you…exactly.

        Liked by 3 people

      • De Oppresso Liber says:

        LTG. Flynn also recognized that our “president’s” (that still makes me want to vomit when I say it) half-brother, Malik Obama, was / is a top lieutenant in the Moooslim Bruthahood, where all of these sophisticated weapons were ultimately heading. Our “president” was actively arming the very same terrorists that we, the United States of America, were fighting; I personally knew several fine men who lost their lives.

        If THAT does not rise to the level of TREASON, what does? EVERYBODY involved in the arming of the Mooslim Bruthahood, while we have been actively engaged in fighting them, should be tried for treason. SEAL Team VI was shot down and killed by a shoulder-fired missile (MANPAD/Stinger) that came from OUR stockpiles.

        One way or another, these traitors need to be brought to justice…..or justice should be brought to them.

        MAGA!

        Liked by 12 people

      • Yes, and also led to the huge “migration” of “displaced” Syrians to Europe. You’d almost think it was a globalist plan/s

        Liked by 3 people

      • Dutchman says:

        Sounds an awful lot like Iran contra.Except of using $ to buy guns, they are transferring the guns, eliminating the currency.

        And, supplying material aid to Terrorists. How is it they can jail people for supplying material aid to Terrorists, yet Hildebeast and her crew are not in jail?

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      • Dee Paul Deje says:

        Like

      • budklatsch says:

        Ah yes, that’s the AmericaI I want, criminal, treasonous and vengeful. Just wonderful. Get me some rope, lots of it.

        Liked by 1 person

        • Sammy Hains says:

          It’s even worse than that…
          The ONE positive outcome of Bush’s war in Iraq was that it scared Gaddaffi straight. He unilaterally dismantled his nuclear program, in a real and verifiable way, cooperated fully with the UN, and was on a straight path toward reforming and rejoining the international community.

          And what did he get for that? Invaded, and murdered by 0bama as soon as he was disarmed and no longer able to defend himself.

          What message does that send to others about pursuing WMDs?

          Disarming = death.

          Like

    • Sammy Hains says:

      This, I think, is what Sundance means by the “outrage trap.”
      By making it all about some petty small-ball political gotcha (the “outrage”), you get sucked into a fight over a penny-ante politics and the Big Picture is ignored. Then everyone moves on and justice is not served.

      It’s like prosecuting bank robbers for parking in a handicapped spot, and not even mentioning the bank robbery.

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      • They can excuse every “by-the-book”-outrage by claiming “We thought he was a Russian agent”. But they can’t tell you why they thought that in the first place.

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        • dd_sc says:

          Trump is an Establshment international real estate mogul who has attempted projects in Russia – that will be their excuse.

          This attempted coup is also a message to every other outsider who may be looking to run for office. He’s a good liberal globalist type, but I’m sure Schultz (? Starbucks) is taking notes.

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    • Lindenlee says:

      I will never get over watching him moving in for the kill in those hearings, and then abruptly wussing out.

      Liked by 7 people

    • dd_sc says:

      He and Issa botched Fast & Furious and IRS hearings as well.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Kintbury54 says:

        I think people have short memories. I distinctly remember that trying to get info out of the Obama Administration was like trying to get blood from a stone. They did not cooperate in any way with these investigation and stonewalled all the time. Not quite suite what you expected these guys to accomplish under the circumstances. If Gowdy did nothing else, he found her illegal server.

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    • maggie0987 says:

      If you read just below Sundance’s Trey Gowdy write up you will see the, ‘Related,’ section which has three older segments. Click on the RH one with Joe De Genova (it is a radio interview from 2 years ago) and towards the end he is talking about the pardon PDJT had given to Scooter Libby.
      Joe is scathing about Gowdy’s comments on Libby.
      Always good to remember this stuff?

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  3. One common man’s spying is another government man’s surveillance. Technicalities don’t matter to a lot of working-class American citizens. If you bug a Trump TOWER THAT’S SPYING. PERIOD. End of statement. Game over. Sack the bats!

    Liked by 14 people

  4. Carson Napier says:

    Once upon a time the FBI and DOJ fought organized crime, then the FBI and DOJ became organized crime, and along with the CIA, the most powerful organized crime syndicate this nation, perhaps any nation, has ever know, and even Diogenes, with a lantern the size of the planet Jupiter, likely could not find an honest man in the whole sorry disgusting and disgraceful lot of them. At some point either the FBI/DOJ/CIA Axis of Crime dies or the Republic dies. Truly, ‘In the end, there can be only one”.

    Liked by 12 people

    • KnowSERENoFear says:

      YES. We should be alarmed by the actions of the FBI & DOJ. But we should be much more alarmed that either exists. BOTH are unconstitutional institutions, bypassing the constitution via administrative law, and executing powers not enumerated to the federal government. Only the AG itself is constitutional.

      Liked by 7 people

      • Dutchman says:

        Show me anywhere in the Constitution where there is ANY basis for “Administrative Law”; administrative law regularly ignores miranda (self incrimination) search/seizure, and any Constitutionally protected right it deems inconvenient to state interests.

        Just saying, this issue, of “Administrative Law” is MUCH bigger than just the FBI/DOJ.

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  5. Deplorable Canuck says:

    Surveillance with out informing the surveilled you are doing so, is SPYING by any definition! The left are trying to use weasel words to get themselves off the hook. Don’t fall for it!

    Liked by 7 people

    • justlizzyp says:

      I can at least understand why they would nitpick over the difference between ‘surveillance’ and ‘spying’ the same way they boohoo’d about Trump’s use of the word ‘wiretapping’. What I can’t understand is how they keep conveniently forgetting about the actual spy they actually tasked with infiltrating the Trump Campaign and informing on them. That is actual spying, full stop. That was established months ago.

      Liked by 6 people

    • The Boss says:

      Worry not. US citizens Jane and Joe Six Pack know lots of synonyms. They can handle ‘spying’ or ‘surveillance’ but prefer ‘spying’. It’s simple to say and easily understood. Especially when one knows right from wrong.

      This is not a great time to be democrat.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Dutchman says:

      Yup. If you catch a perv, peeking in the window, at your teenage daughter, and he says “I wasn’t SPYING on her, I was merely SURVEILLING her, are you REALLY going to say “Oh, well,..thats DIFFERENT! By all means, proceed!

      Are they trying to make the,distinction that spying is illegal, and surveillance is legal? Well then, they were SPYING, by their OWN definition.

      Or, are they just trying to cover us in b.s. and spin? Ain’t gonna work.

      Liked by 1 person

  6. CNY3 says:

    Dan Bongino had a great podcast today about this very subject, as well as others. Check it out:

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dan-bongino-show/id965293227?i=1000434692172

    Liked by 4 people

  7. vikingmom says:

    Do NOT trust Gowdy as far as I could spit him!! He had his chance to make a difference and he blew it (and evidently was well paid for his lack of effort).

    Liked by 11 people

    • 2zymos says:

      Without any approval of Trey’s actions and non-disclosures when he could have been more courageous–
      Remember that many who opposed clinton publicly got politically or actually assassinated.
      Trey may have become quite rich, may not ever want him in office again, won’t want to sit and drink a beer with him… but it still looks like he is playing his position. Let’s see how this plays out — no one needs to trust him at all for him to still yet be very dangerous to the DS… if he gets into covering “stuff” up, we’ll see it and then WE THE PEOPLE will have to fix it because dirtbag criminals (which is what Gowdy would be then) took over the WHOLE government.

      Keep your powder dry. Stay cold angry.

      Liked by 5 people

    • SwampRatTerrier says:

      100% AGREED.

      Is his middle name Tor??????????

      Like

    • Gowdy and his family may have been threatened by Clinton Crime Syndicate. (Seth Rich?)

      Like

  8. CopperTop says:

    Gowdy definitely stuttered so I’m going to cross/fingers this was an unintended reveal. But always cautious with the rooster bird making anything public.

    Liked by 1 person

  9. 2rlc5 says:

    Gowdy makes good clear points, so he is useful as a tool on Fox.
    Too bad he couldn’t get more done while in a position to do so.

    Nunes is kicking patootie, still however.
    Thats the man to watch.
    Keep peeling the onion…

    Liked by 11 people

  10. Blue Wildflower says:

    I thought he left, why is he back? If you say you are leaving, you should leave and stay gone. Enough is enough!

    Liked by 3 people

  11. anonymous says:

    FYI sundance. Byron York Podcast today Mark Meadows is alluding to something similar re: wearing wires and recording Trump team members. I guess we now know someone wore a wire into the trump camp.

    Liked by 7 people

  12. GB Bari says:

    So the FBI went to brief PDJT about the potential foreign contact problem with one of his staff but that person was in the room so they couldn’t say anything.

    I’ve seen 10 year olds who could lie better than that.

    Then when asked if they went back later when “person X” wasn’t in the room. they admitted they “didn’t have a good answer to that question.”

    Translated: No they never went back, in fact they never intended to brief the President that he might have a foreign agent on his team. That entire story is as fraudulent as the Russia Hoax conspiracy’s basic narrative.

    Lies, incessant lies, and damnable lies. That’s all we get from the FBI coup conspirators.

    Liked by 8 people

  13. CopperTop says:

    Gowdy mentions the wire in context of consent and that law enforcement has to get the proper warrant. Means that a person in law enforcement thought they had consent and ‘self wired’ and was told after the fact their ‘work’ was “Spying”. Full stop.

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  14. CopperTop says:

    BOOM: Devin just said Dec 2015 spying began. Haven’t heard him tie specific time frames to those words. He’s bringing Ratcliffe with him to AG.

    Good luck and God bless Mr. Nunes!

    JR if you are thinking of doing anything else but supporting him. Think again.

    Liked by 6 people

  15. jkcinsalem says:

    Mr. Gowdy must only own one necktie these days. Every media appearance he has that purple/lavender tie on. He’s sending a message, and it’s not a good one.

    Liked by 2 people

  16. AmericaFirst says:

    Spying? Not spying?

    Reminds me of “what the meaning of is is.”

    Liked by 4 people

  17. dutzie60 says:

    Superficial — Does he have just one tie?

    Liked by 1 person

  18. Zorro says:

    Why do we need the 17 agencies if no one is spying. Let’s save some money.

    Liked by 6 people

    • Robert Smith says:

      The coup members likely have video and audio on each other because nobody trusts the other guy. Especially when taking down a President.

      Liked by 4 people

      • Dutchman says:

        To BE a member of the coup club, your ‘initiation’is that they HAVE ‘something’on you, already.

        Its like the mafia, where a recruit has to ‘make his bones’; kill someone so they can always hold that over him, to keep him from ratting.

        So, they didn’t need to ‘get’ something, as already HAD. But, their is NO “Honor among thieves”, and still less among the elite.

        Liked by 1 person

        • Robert Smith says:

          While I agree with you, a coup against a president is so clearly wrong/illegal that they will try to have something to offer, if it all fell apart.

          Like

    • Sentient says:

      One lies and the other 16 swear to it.

      Liked by 7 people

    • 1stgoblyn says:

      Uh, why do we need 17 spy agencies in the first place? Aren’t 2 or 3 enough?

      Like

  19. Paul B. says:

    Gowdy was good tonight. I wish he was half as good during his tenure in Congress. I don’t trust many of these people, only take the good as it comes.

    Liked by 3 people

  20. Sidney Powell says:

    Mueller did NOT indict Greg Craig. Why was the indictment delayed? Politics. Craig is indicted however for making a false statement to Mueller’s SCO.

    Liked by 7 people

    • Robert Smith says:

      From my fallible memory, I think Craig wasn’t going to be charged at all until the cries of bias… no democrats charged got louder and louder.

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  21. joeknuckles says:

    Entrapping and framing innocent people is not “surveillance”!

    Dammit, Gowdy always covers for the deep State when they are in deep do-do.

    Liked by 1 person

    • SwampRatTerrier says:

      Trey Tor Gowdy did you say?

      LoL

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      • joeknuckles says:

        It was not “surveillance”. Hell, “spying” is not even sufficient to describe what they did.

        They used agent provocateurs.

        An agent provocateur (French for “inciting agent”) is a person who commits or who acts to entice another person to commit an illegal or rash act or falsely implicate them in partaking in an illegal act, so as to ruin the reputation or entice legal action against the target or a group they belong to. An agent provocateur may be a member of a law enforcement agency acting out of their own sense of duty or under orders, or other entity. They may target any group, such as a peaceful protest or demonstration, a union, a political party or a company.

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      • Dutchman says:

        Oh, just got the earlier post on his middle name!( headsmack!)

        Like

  22. Carson Napier says:

    There is a difference between spying and spying-spying.
    – Whoopi Goldberg

    Liked by 1 person

  23. walker4411 says:

    What is Gowdy’s problem with using the word, “Spying”. They were SPYING!

    Like

  24. zozz1 says:

    Spying, schmying…none of this changes anything. What DOES change things is the fact that Barr is in charge and has taken the reins. He has access to everything, and he understands, clearly, what went on and who the perpetrators are. He already knows where his investigation will lead, but I suspect he will overturn some rocks and find some unexpected worms. What is the biggest “tell”? The panic and fear that is oozing out of all the forces that were involved or that supported the coup effort. The MSM are frantically spinning completely fictional narratives because they still seem to think (magically) that they can somehow salvage something of their former reputations..

    The tide has clearly turned, and the drama is in its final act. Justice will be served, and the villains will get their just deserts….for them, there will be Hell to pay…

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    • Dutchman says:

      Media is looking more and more like “Bagdag Bob”, …in fact the resemblance is STRIKING!

      I really wonder how many of the current talking heads, and even media outlets will still be around 1,5 and 10 years from now?

      Will CNN and MSNBC be like betamax tapes, or 8 tracks? OBSOLETE?
      Perhaps Dan Rather gonna have a lot of company on the used up, discredited hack circuit?

      Shame, how they did it to themselves!

      Like

      • MelH says:

        Dutchman, greed! I am always astonished when I hear the salaries paid for parroting Talking Points provided at 4 a.m. by the Deep State.

        Like

  25. Dr.Jay says:

    Too funny. Multiple people doing multiple federal crimes, several of which are on the RICO list. And that means RICO conspiracy charges. Just like was used against the mob 🙂

    Like

    • Beau Geste says:

      They are “the mob” and did conspire. Obama/Hillary/DNC + “upper echelon FBI/CIA/DOJ + fusion/british/Australian governments etc.
      RICO is both criminal, and civil, so conspirators could be sued after criminal findings.

      Liked by 1 person

  26. TwoLaine says:

    On the Gowdy-Martha video, that’s the 1st time I have heard anyone on Faux call him the dreaded C word, “contributor”. CRAP.

    Like

  27. Beau Geste says:

    QUESTION FROM CONGRESS TO CIA/FBI/DOJ :
    Do you spy on all Congress Members, all Federal Judges, and all candidates for Public Office. If so, we subpoena the records and recordings.

    CIA/FBI/DOJ ANSWER:
    No, of course not, so we have no records.
    (said while holding hand with crossed fingers behind back, and thinking “surveillance is not spying”, and “by the book” means we can lie to Congress or anyone else that we want to, whenever we want)

    Liked by 1 person

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