Flashback 2016: Secretary of State John Kerry Admits President Obama Intentionally Armed ISIS in Syria…

CTH has some new readers, so against the backdrop of the UniParty in Washington DC jumping into action to criticize President Trump’s decision to withdraw from Syria; perhaps a little factual historic refresher is in order….

On September 30th 2016 the New York Times quietly released a leaked audio recording of Secretary John Kerry meeting with multiple factions associated within Syria.

The 40-minute discussion took place on the sidelines of a United Nations General Assembly in New York. The meeting took place at the Dutch Mission to the United Nations on Sept. 22nd 2016:

[…] Kerry’s off-record conversation was apparently with two dozen ‘Syrian civilians’, all from US backed opposition-linked NGO’s in education and medical groups supposedly working in ‘rebel-held’ (aka terrorist-held) areas in Syria.

This opposition conclave also included ‘rescue workers’ which can only be ambassadors from the White Helmets, a pseudo NGO which serves as Washington and London’s primary PR front in pursuit of a “No Fly Zone’ in Syria, and it’s being bankrolled by the US, UK, EU and other coalition states to the tune of well over $100 million (so far). (link)

When you listen to the audio recording (embedded below) it becomes immediately obvious what was going on in 2014, 2015 and 2016 as an outcome of policy from the White House. In addition, you discover why this jaw-dropping 2016 leak/story was buried by the U.S. media and how it connects to the prior 4 years of perplexing U.S. mid-east policy.

This evidence within this single story would/should forever remove any credibility toward the U.S. foreign policy under President Obama. It also destroys the credibility of a large number of well known republicans, and explains how the prior action placed President Trump into a precarious position requiring a careful approach.

The key Secretary Kerry moments are at 02:00, and again at approximately 18:30 forward.

The discussion from 18:30 through to 29:00 are exceptionally revealing and should be listened to by anyone who has wondered what was going on in Syria. Kerry even makes mention of the “Responsibility to Protect, or R2P” principle:

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@18:30 Secretary John Kerry [transcript]:

[…] “Well, the problem is the Russians do not care about law, and we do. And, we don’t have a basis -our lawyers tell us- unless we have a U.N. Security Council resolution, which the Russians can veto and Chinese, OR unless we are under attack from the folks there, or unless we are invited in. Russia was invited in by the legitimate regime, well, it’s illegitimate in our mind, by the regime. And so, they were invited in and we’re not invited in.”

“We’re flying in airspace there, where they can turn on the air defense and we have a very different scene. The only reason they’re letting us fly is because we’re going after ISIS. If we were going after Assad, those air defenses, we’d have to take out all those air defenses, uh, and we don’t have a legal justification, frankly, for doing that unless we stretch it way beyond the law on a humanitarian basis, which some people argue we should – by the way.”

“Uh, but so far American legal theory has not gone into these so called “right to protect”, uh, and we don’t even have what we had in Kosovo where we had an, you know, an existing resolution and so forth. Uh, even though we went alone.”

“And so it’s complicated, it’s not easy. And we’ve been fighting. How many wars have we been fighting? We’ve been fighting in Afghanistan, we’ve been fighting in Iraq, we’ve fighting -you know- in the region for fourteen years. And a lot of Americans don’t believe that we should be fighting and sending young Americans over to die in another country. That’s the problem.”

“The congress won’t vote to do it. And you can be mad at us, but what we’re trying to do is help Syrians fight for their own country; and we’ve been spending a lot of money, a lot of effort to try and help do this. So, there’s an opposition there; the opposition is doing very well. Russia came in, and that’s a problem I know, because, uh, y’ know, uh, we don’t behave like Russians, it’s just a different standard.”

“So we are trying to see if we can test whether Russia, you see, is serious about a political solution. And if they are not serious, then we will help the opposition more. But I don’t think that’s particularly good for Syrians in the end because it will mean more fighting.”

Secretary Kerry is then questioned by an obvious sympathizer toward the extremist elements (calls pro-assad Sunni faction “Sunni Jews”) about why the U.S. fights the extremist Sunni (ISIS), but not the extremist Shia (Hezbollah). Kerry’s response:

“Well, they’re [Hezbollah] a terrorist organization, we’ve designated them a terrorist organization. The reason for [airstrikes against the Sunni Extremists] is because they have basically declared war on us; and are plotting against us, and Hezbollah is not plotting against us; Hezbollah is exclusively focused on Israel, they’re not attacking now, and on Syria where they are attacking in support of the, uh, in support of Assad.”

“So it a, uh, it’s…”

[Interrupted]

Question: “But how to make the majority of the Syrian people accept this approach, that because Hezbollah or the Iraqi or Iranian groups are not attacking the U.S. now when they are attacking against the terrorism in Syria?”

Kerry: “Well, they, they are targeted by the opposition who we are arming and training.”

What the recording reveals is substantive:

First, only regime change, the removal of Bashir Assad, in Syria was the 2013, 2014, and 2015 goal for President Obama. This is admitted and outlined by Secretary John Kerry.

Secondly, in order to accomplish this primary goal, the White House was willing to watch the rise of ISIS (’13, ’14, ’15) by placing their bet that ISIS’s success would force Syrian President Bashir Assad to acquiesce toward Obama’s terms and step down.

Thirdly, in order to facilitate the objective, Obama and Kerry intentionally gave arms to ISIS and even, arguably, attacked a Syrian government military convoy to stop a strategic attack upon the Islamic extremists killing 80 Syrian soldiers.

Pause for a moment and consider those three points carefully. Because the audio, along with accompanying research now surfacing, not only exposes these three points as truth – but also provides the specific evidence toward them.

The problem in the Obama/Kerry’s secret strategy became clear when ISIS grew in sufficient strength to give the White House optimism for the scheme – however, instead of capitulation Assad then turned to Russia for help.

When Russia came to aid Bashir Assad the Syrian Government began being able to defeat ISIS and the Islamic Extremist elements within Syria. For the hidden plan of Obama/Kerry (and also McCain, Graham, et al), Russia defeating ISIS, al-Qaeda and al-Nusra, upended their objective.

Against the backdrop of this recording we can reconcile so many historic issues. We already know of a Second Presidential Finding Memo authorizing additional CIA covert action in 2012, this time in Syria. However, unlike the 2011 Libyan operation we do not know the operational name of the second action in 2012 Syria.

2012: WASHINGTON, Aug 1 (Reuters) – President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing U.S. support for rebels seeking to depose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his government, U.S. sources familiar with the matter said.

Obama’s order, approved earlier this year and known as an intelligence “finding,” broadly permits the CIA and other U.S. agencies to provide support that could help the rebels oust Assad. (link)

Further consider how this Kerry audio tape, and the now transparent Obama policy toward Syria, absolutely confirms our earlier research as contained within the Benghazi Brief surrounding Syria. [Previous post]

President Obama, Secretary Clinton (2011, 2012) and later Secretary Kerry, together with John McCain, and the CIA tentacled team within the Republican party (2013, 2014, 2015) were willing to support extremist (under all factional names) in order to overthrow Bashir Assad…

THIS WAS THE Obama/Kerry POLICY.

This was their 2016 admitted policy, only because they were caught.

Nothing else mattered.

President Trump took office in January 2017, and began a process to kill and remove, with extreme prejudice, the ISIS forces that President Obama, Secretary Clinton and Secretary Kerry armed.  He began with the end in mind, and delivered the following quote:…

That mission has been accomplished.

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222 Responses to Flashback 2016: Secretary of State John Kerry Admits President Obama Intentionally Armed ISIS in Syria…

  1. Lactantius says:

    Geo-politics is always about important areas of natural (geographical) importance such as straits, rare earth deposits and energy resources. International relations and foreign policy are guided by the importance of the geography of the area.

    After WWII, George Kennan added something to “geopolitics” termed “containment” which specifically meant stopping the expansion of the Soviet Union. Essentially “geopolitics” had traditionally been about access to natural resources. With the addition of “contentment” geopolitics came to mean trapping a foe within its current geographical borders.

    Henry Dearborn, Consul General in the Dominican Republic wrote about the assassination of the dictator Trujillo: “He was assassinated on May 30, 1961. I knew they were planning to do it. I knew how they were planning to do it. I knew, more or less, who was involved. Although, I was always able to say that I personally did not know any of the assassins. I knew those who were pulling the strings. I knew everything except when. The only reason I didn’t know when was because they didn’t know either.”

    What Dearborn knew was also known by President Kennedy, Vice President Johnson, Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, Attorney General Robert Kennedy, CIA Director Allen Dulles, CIA “desk” agent J.C. King, and Acting Assistant Secretary of State of Inter-American Affairs Wymberley Coerr.

    May 30, 1961 brought a new concept into the meaning of “containment.” The U.S. spying capacity had reached the level of sophistication that we knew things about the political affairs of a nation that the leaders of that nation did not know. From a standpoint of ethics, what do we do with that information?

    Kennedy did not interfere with the assassination of Trujillo. He actively sought methods for assassination the Castro brothers in Cuba.

    Nixon and the CIA supported a military coup d’etat in Chile. Salvadore Allende, the Marxist President of Chile committed suicide before he could be assassinated by the forces of Pinochet.

    Ever since the assassination of Trujillo, the President of the United States and his national security advisors have assessed “containment” in terms of not interfering with the assassination of leaders which are not useful to the geopolitical interests of the United States. Clinton half-heartedly went after Slobodan Milošević in the Serbian province of Kosovo, but he turned it over to NATO and stepped back. Obama and Secretary Hillary Clinton used NATO to bring down Muammar Mohammed Gaddafi. Obama also targeted Mubarak of Egypt and Hussein of Syria for removal.

    Now we are at a policy crossroads in our “geopolitical containment” policy.

    President Donald J. Trump has attempted to negotiate Kim Jong-un into keeping his influence contained inside the borders of North Korea. President Trump has advised the Saudis to focus on containing Iran and laying off of Israel. President Trump has informed Pakistan that $300 million in U.S. money has been cut because Islamabad has not rooted out terrorist militants on the Afghan border. President Trump chastised Germany, in particular, for making itself dependent on Russian natural gas. But, generally speaking, President Trump has kept his “trigger finger” out of the diplomacy. He speaks directly while rebuilding the most powerful military on the planet.

    The hawks are not going to be satisfied with President Donal J. Trump’s policy of containment, because he is not quick on the regime change trigger. He is also not interested in nation building. Pulling out of Syria is based on declaring ISIS neutralized in Syria. Afghanistan is no longer harboring Al-Qaeda and our nation building efforts have failed miserably. President Trump can not atone for the waste of American lives in 17 years in Afghanistan, but he can walk away and save future lives. Poppy fields and terrorist hives do not require boots on the ground when napalm and missiles will do the job.

    President Donald J. Trump is reforming US geopolitics without preaching and preening. It is the emotional ninnies in the press who want President Trump to join in a circle-jerk of psychobabbling so that they can chastise him in many wondrous and meaningless ways.

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    • intercesser says:

      Would you be willing to expound on this theme of circle-jerk of psychobabbling ? It seems that I probably agree with you on both ideas .

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      • Lactantius says:

        There is reasoned debate and then there is emotion driven “debate.” Emotion driven “debate” is personal from the get-go and those who don’t agree are the “enemy.” Aristotelian argument can only proceed on the basis that reasonable people can disagree on the influence of cause on effect and that in the end, the debate may conclude with the agreement to disagree. Rhetoric does not enhance the force of reason in Aristotelian argument.

        Liberals have gone whole hog into making agreement or disagreement a matter of acceptance or rejection in some sort of elite club. When you watch liberal talking heads, they are either stroking one another and fist bumping or they are disdainfully spewing castigation and derision.

        Psychobabble is a term coined by Charles Krauthammer (a licensed psychiatrist) who was struck by the thought of Joseph Wolfe, the founder of “behavior therapy.” Wolfe said that the 100 years since Freud had resulted in “a Babel of conflicting voices.” Krauthammer took Wolfe’s thought and wrote: “For a science, evolution means development toward some deeper unity. This jamboree of jousting sects and one-man shows might more properly have been called the devolution of psychotherapy.” After some thought, Krauthammer rejected psychotherapy altogether and dismissed it as the art of “psychobabble.” (Wolfe referred to “Babel” and Krauthammer simplified it to “babble.”) Psychobabble is meaningless navel gazing, woe are us, victim whimpering.

        The circle-jerk is a vulgarian reference to those who seek out psychobabble conclaves in order to, well, spew their own meaningless ejaculations of wasted meaning. I suggest that The View is a good example of psychobabble. Why any conservative bothers with it is beyond my understanding. If one succeeds in obtaining Joy Behar’s approval, how is that better than a roaring outbreak of herpes simplex 2?

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  2. pyromancer76 says:

    I am looking forward to Sundance expanding his transformative economic lessons to what Lactanius brings to our attention in the first paragraph.

    “Lactantius says: December 20, 2018 at 9:51 am

    Geo-politics is always about important areas of natural (geographical) importance such as straits, rare earth deposits and energy resources. International relations and foreign policy are guided by the importance of the geography of the area.”

    The U.S. should be careful about leaving any area in which our power is viable if this brings about destabilization of global economics and powers. We have exercised leadership — often foolishly and destructively. But our leadership is important nevertheless, unless we want a Chinese One Road, Russian domination, radical Islamic spread (time to retract it), and Latin American marxist-take-over.

    Isolationism is a bad policy, given how much has been stolen from us during at least the last 10 years. We need to rebuild strength and think carefully about its projection. (E.g., be careful about Afghanistan; why would the British, the Soviets/Russians, then the Americans care so much? What is the geo-political placement that is so attractive. One might say the same about Syria.)

    Syria appears to be central today to rethinking the Middle East since “so many” are “so interested.” Sundance has done massive service with his investigation of Benghazi. I would look forward to some guidance re President Trump’s Middle East policy that is being formed — by wonderful actions.

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    • Lactantius says:

      Iran has offered a plan of a pipeline across Iraq and Syria to the Mediterranean. Of course, that involves the consent of Iraq or the dominance over Iraq. That is geopolitical in nature, except the United States has taken care of itself through fracking and Mid-East oil is no longer the geopolitical interest to the US that it once was.

      President Donald J. Trump is not moved by what the projected pipeline might do to our “allies” in the Mid-East. They can sort that out among themselves. That is why President Donald J. Trump made a massive arms deal with Saudi Arabia and essentially ignored the Khashoggi assassination. Not his problem. He is also abandoning the Kurds is Syria. Not his problem. This is NOT isolation. It is backing out of always being the go-to resource when the world needs a policeman.

      Geopolitical interests are not limited to only one country. The European Union has the same geopolitical interests as the United States, except the European Union has grown socialistically obese on the savings they accrued by letting their armed forces wither into nothingness and depending entirely upon the U.S. to do the policing.

      Iran is a merciless dictator state. If President Trump had a provocation to take Iran on, he might chose options quite different from boots on the ground.

      The U.S. tested and used “lazy dog” bombs in Vietnam. They are throwbacks to the days of catapults and the long bow. And they are really, really cheap. Take a 2 inch steel rod and fit it with fins. Drop them from 3000 feet or higher and these little suckers will kinetically gain speed as high as 500 mph and will penetrate thick concrete. This is not Outer Space Treaty violation activity.

      Now move on to Project Thor. Take a twenty foot long, one foot in diameter tungsten rod and drop it from earth orbiting heights. It will penetrate hundreds of feet of earth, but it will also explode upon impact with a magnitude of a ground penetrating nuclear bomb, but without the radioactive fallout. There are some who believe that this weapon was used by the US on the mountain which collapsed in North Korea and destroyed their major nuclear facilities. In the vernacular, these tungsten poles are called “rods from god.” Each rod costs roughly $230 million, but nuclear missiles and bombs are no less expensive and they are “dirty.”

      If President Donald J. Trump were to inform Iran that their underground nuclear facilities might just disintegrate, we should expect Iran to move thousands of women and children to sit on top of the site. The response to that would be to saturate the petroleum center in Qom and the Imam Reza Division of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard nearby Qom with “lazy dog” bombs. Sure some collateral innocents would result, but the general disarray in Qom would awaken Teheran to all sorts of contagious mayhem.

      The point is that President Donald J. Trump is neither a pacifist nor an aggressor. That does not mean that Turkey or Iran can spill out of their borders and go rampaging at will. There is only a balance of power; there is no status quo. It is really up to Turkey and Iran to decide how they deal with the geopolitical interests of the U.S.

      Erdoğan informed President Donald J. Trump that Turkish soldiers would march into northeast Syria “within a few days.” Fine by POTUS if Erdoğan wants to take over the job of protecting Turkey from ISIS. The hawks and the Pentagon have other thoughts about how the game-planning on the ground in Syria should be carried out. POTUS isn’t interested.

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      • dave morgan says:

        There is one thing that many miss during these times of trying to outdo one another in figuring out where to send out youngster and $billions…That is We have many more important things to take care of here at home before ‘enjoying the work of helping other countries’..

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  3. Chewbarkah says:

    Notice how the Obama/Kerry Plan clears the path for Iran-backed Hezbollah to be the last man standing once Assad was overthrown.

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  4. Caius Lowell says:

    Pro-tip: it’s easier to defeat ISIS when you’re not funding and actually fighting them…

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    • another face in the crowd says:

      Guess that pretty much tells us the poor American taxpayers paid for all those nice brand new white toyota pickups they were always seen running around in convoys with back in that time frame….

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      • wondering999 says:

        Oh we’ve paid for more than that. We have paid with our reputation. Sudanese immigrant told me that the Arab channels that she watches, have extensively covered the atrocities of ISIS. Psychopaths from all over the world were drawn to ISIS to brutalize victims in the Syrian war zone.

        If you were taught to thoughtlessly denounce common people who allowed Auschwitz to happen, search your soul. A higher authority may confront us with some very uncomfortable scenes, as we depart this life

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  5. NJ Transplant says:

    Obama was always a double agent. Not even that double. He was just anti-US.

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  6. Rose says:

    It’s suppose to be treason when you fund American’s enemies, but when the corrupt President Obama and his regime did it alas it wasn’t even news. It’s clear the demorats will crawl into bed with the devil if it keeps their war machine humming along.

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  7. ARTHUR says:

    Where does anyone think that Obama’s pallets of unmarked currency to the Islamic Republic of Iran went towards? It went towards their buildup in Syria, Lebanon as a prelude to invading northern Israel. Both Syria and Lebanon are now the controlled opposition assets of the Iranian Mullahs whose goal is global war in order to bring about the appearance of their Mahdi who they want to be their ‘last man standing’ in all of this. We all know this now and facts like these will only continue to verify this fact until it comes to its full fruition.

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  8. Janeka says:

    Not sure but wasn’t this plan part of “operation zero footprint” or was that just the creation and arming of ISIS..?

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  9. john edward lorenz says:

    The POS Oliar called ISIS the JVTeam for a reason. ISIS is the combination of AQI (Al Queda in Iraq) remnants who killed Americans and the Muslim Brotherhood from Egypt which is also very anti-American. This is who Oliar and Hillary and Lurch provided weapons to.

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  10. mugzey302 says:

    No wonder the world hates America (but it our money).

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  11. dman1971 says:

    Why are these people not swinging from trees? This is treason on an epic scale.

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  12. Attorney at Law says:

    All I can say is TGFT. God Bless him and his family daily.Keep them safe and punish those that sought to bring America to her knees. Restore the world and give it peace along with the innocent people around the globe.

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  13. lemmus1 says:

    …yes and no
    …yes, Obama/Kerry created much of the disaster that is Syria today
    …no, Obama/Kerry did NOT deliberately and directly fund ISIS as we currently know it
    …with all due respect to SD, the cites above that he provides to support that claim fall short …they are ambiguous at best and at worst they conflate “rebels” with ISIS to the detriment of any rational discussion of what actually happened there and our part in it …the entirety of the ME and North Africa is a mass of shifting sands, continuously forming and breaking alliances of largely quasi-religious tribal groupings .
    ..in that constantly evolving environment, there are four bedrock entities …the Turks, the Kurds, the Israelis, and the Iranians …all else changes as often as you change your underwear …what today is a rebel unit affiliated with ISIS was yesterday a rebel unit affiliated with the Kurds, Al-Quaeda, Iraqi Sunnis, Iraqi Shia, Alawi Sunnis, Iranian Shia, etc etc etc …and the day before it was another …and tomorrow it will be another yet
    …did we fund ‘rebel’ groups that sooner or later affiliated with ISIS …absolutely …did we, as a matter of Obama directed policy, deliberately fund known ISIS entities at a time when they were known to be such …there is,imnsho, zero credible evidence of such …none
    …note that I’m addressing the very specific claim that Obama knowingly and deliberately provided arms and money to known ISIS entities …not that such aid wasn’t ever provided to entities hostile to the US …that undoubtedly occurs on an all to frequent basis somewhere in the ME/NA stew
    …I have as little respect for Obama as most here and zero respect for gunboat Kerry …but I do not for a moment accept that either was guilty of deliberately and directly providing aid to ISIS …that would have been political suicide …if that seems like heresy, with all due respect, provide credible evidence to the contrary

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    • intercesser says:

      Operation Zero Footprint .

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    • Fair points, but you are veering toward a contradiction . . .

      For sake of argument, let’s concede that the Obama gangster regime did not knowingly and deliberately provide arms and money to known ISIS entities at a time when they were known to be such.

      Okay, but you already admitted that “ME and North Africa is a mass of shifting sands, continuously forming and breaking alliances of largely quasi-religious tribal groupings” and that the militarized radical Muslim groups/militia/etc. abruptly, wildly change their allegiances “as often as you change your underwear” from one ostensibly non-terrorist rebel unit one month to the most virulently barbaric, ruthless, and blood curdling terrorist affiliation the next month . . . Does it not stand to reason that giving them millions $ (billions $?) and weapons of war will inevitably mean that sometime in the next distant future those “investments” will be deployed in furtherance of acts of terror and against the interests of the U.S., just as soon as the sands shift yet again?

      Along those lines . . . what American leader IN GOOD FAITH gives millions/billions$ and weapons to anyone affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood, no matter which sub-faction – terrorist or otherwise – they are supposedly aligned with that day/week/month/year? Are our Ivy League elites really so stupid that they are easily fooled when someone from the Muslim Brotherhood dresses up in a suit, instead of a keffiyeh, and offers them a cup of tea?

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    • thedoc00 says:

      I have to disagree with you. When one deliberately and blindly drops weapons and money on “rebels” of unknown allegiance just because they are “rebels” against Assad, then one deliberately creates the result = ISIS.

      By the way, while SD was focused on describing Policy by the Obama Administration, SD omitted that there were Republicans (McCain, Graham and others) backing the blind distribution of weapons and money as well. Obama and his minions had help.

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  14. David says:

    U.S, foreign policy: Some dictators are good and some dictators are bad.

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  15. SharkFL says:

    Orange jumpsuit Christian prisoners drowned in cages and burned alive?
    > Obama, Hillary and Kerry did that

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  16. SharkFL says:

    Tomb of Noah desecrated and destroyed? Christians mass murdered?
    > Obama, Hillary and Kerry did that

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  17. J ogburn says:

    Obama & Kerry = treason. Jail time.

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  18. Dilemma says:

    In a debate with someone over this writeup. They contend that though Obama armed the Free Syria Army that’s not the same as ISIS. How do we prove it was in fact ISIS?

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  19. bliss3609 says:

    I just want to know why Assad was so bad… given it was the Syrian rebels and the white helmets that staged the gassing “parties” to foment support for regime change and all religions were living in Syria just fine under Assad before intervention from other countries.

    It appears to me that it was all a made up lie about Assad as everyone was just after the land for the oil fields and potential oil pipelines out of Saudi and Qatar that Assad wouldn’t allow!!!????

    This whole fiasco has only developed more bad karma for US as far as I am concerned.

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  20. Bendix says:

    I was so happy to hear this, I thought it must have been fake news.
    Then I was surprised, even astonished maybe, to find out so many are criticizing it.

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  21. TwoLaine says:

    Says Barack Obama “founded ISIS. I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton.”
    — Donald Trump on Wednesday, August 10th, 2016 in a speech in Sunrise, Fla.

    But Politifact said this is a Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire statement… 😉
    Someone should give them an update! 😉

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/aug/11/donald-trump/donald-trump-pants-fire-claim-obama-founded-isis-c/

    Wanna’ have some fun? Do a SEARCH on “TRUMP: Obama created ISIS”.

    Enjoy!

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  22. jackbeowulf says:

    l@lummus – ol, a few good gobbledygook paragraphs and questions about Proof. Then throwing out ( provide credible evidence), as if any evidence would be accepted by an individual that has accolades from the DC circuit.
    I’ll point you in the right direction – -SEE state dept – see us military after action reports on stinger missiles used on US troops, ect, ect.

    @@@@@@@
    proof they knew the players and helped them anyway.

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Pg.-291-Pgs.-287-293-JW-v-DOD-and-State-14-812-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version11.pdf

    Reference a small item –

    An ISIS leader named Yousef al-Salafi in Pakistan has admitted that ISIS is being funded by the USA, and thus, the Obama administration. This came from a statement done by the Pakistani government which interrogated Yousef and received this information from him. There was a news report done on this:

    ” During the investigations, Yousaf al Salafi revealed that he was getting funding – routed through America – to run the organization in Pakistan and recruit young people to fight in Syria

    The US has been condemning the IS activities but unfortunately has not been able to stop funding of these organizations, which is being routed through the US… The US had to dispel the impression that it is financing the group for its own interests and that is why it launched offensive against the organization in Iraq but not in Syria .”

    “We have a very dangerous set of actors in the region, Al-Qaeda, Hamas, and those who are on our terrorist list, to be sure, supporting – claiming to support the opposition in Syria,” she said.

    @@@@@@@@@@@

    ” Mohammad Zahir, one of five released from Gitmo in the dead of night by Obama, will go directly back to producing nuclear weapons

    Obama set loose a suicide bomber, a document forger and a bomb maker who trained other terrorists to make bombs. Those are exactly the sorts of enemies whose license to Jihad will cost lives. But that’s nothing compared to Obama’s latest gift to the Jihad.

    When Mohammed Zahir was caught, among his possessions was found a small sealed can marked, in Russian, “Heavy Water U235 150 Grams.”

    “According to the classified report, the uranium had been identified by Zahir “in his memorandum as being intended for the production of an “atom bomb.”

    Zahir was not just another captured Jihadist. He was the Secretary General of the Taliban’s Intelligence Directorate and was in contact with top leaders of the Taliban and Al Qaeda. His possessions included a fax with questions intended for Osama bin Laden and he had been arrested on suspicion of possessing Stinger missiles.”

    @@@@@@@@@

    https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/stinger1.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=808&h=539&crop=1

    taliban with stinger missiles, which they got from obama/clinto through there guns for terrorists program.

    ” Miliary records and sources reveal that on July 25, 2012, Taliban fighters in Kunar province successfully targeted a US Army CH-47 helicopter with a new generation Stinger missile.

    The investigation took time. Arms were twisted, noses put out of joint. But when the results came back, they were stunning: The Stinger tracked back to a lot that had been signed out by the CIA recently, not during the anti-Soviet ­jihad.

    Reports of the Stinger reached the highest echelons of the US command in Afghanistan and became a source of intense speculation, but no action. “

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  23. auscitizenmom says:

    Holy Cow!! No wonder this whole mess didn’t make sense.

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  24. myyellowbike says:

    Assad helped kill Americans. , al Qaeda launched attacks from Syria on US and coalition soldiers from Syria. Look up if Assad buys ISIS oil. Has Assad been found guilty of working with al Qaeda in an American court to kill Americans? Look that up. Russia and Syria have done crap to fight ISIS, at least, through 2015.

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