Newly Released Peter Strzok Text Messages and Emails – It’s Not The Content, It’s The Timing That Tells the Story…

Many column inches and media discussions surround the recently released “NEW” text messages and emails attributed to FBI Agent Peter Strzok.  “NEW” revelations that show how the FBI was coordinating a “media leak strategy”; which essentially further evidences the level of corruption within the DOJ and FBI & weaponization for political motives.

However, there is a particular pattern and familiarity to these releases for those who follow the Administrative State, aka “Deep State”, within Washington DC closely.  According to Sean Hannity (Friday broadcast) next week there will be several thousand more of these “NEW” messages released. [Up to 50,000]

Amid these latest developments is where we find the all-too-familiar pattern. Where exactly were these “NEW” emails for the past sixteen months? Who is releasing these “NEW” messages? Why? And why now?

According to Joe diGenova, there’s a seated grand jury ready to pounce on Andrew McCabe, James Comey, Rod Rosenstein, Peter Strzok and all the corrupt elements associated within “spygate” and “fisa-gate”.   As the diGenova story is told, former FBI chief legal counsel James Baker has “turned states evidence”, and is now testifying to the grand scheme, etc. Exposing all those who participated. (Prompted – Just Hit Play)

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Perhaps diGenova is right; perhaps all of those wonderful things are about to happen.  However, I’m of a generally more cynical disposition after years of following these creeps.  I hope diGenova is correct, but I fear he is fraught with misplaced optimism and/or bad information.  Here’s why:

First, James Baker went to work for the Lawfare group of Benjamin Witts.  You might remember Lawfare is the outside government advisory group for the internal legal group of usurpers.

It is challenging to work out any process were James Baker is simultaneously working with Lawfare, and delivering devastating testimony to the corrupt ideological group that Lawfare supports.

Secondly, lets focus on these “NEW” communications for a moment.

Lisa Page and Peter Strzok were first questioned by FBI INSD (inspection division) in June and July 2017. That would be at least fifteen months ago.  Granting a period of investigative discovery, remove three months and say the general outline of the scheme has been known to the internal DOJ/FBI administrative state for around a year.

A year!

With around six weeks left to the election, now we are slowly getting to see previously unreleased communication?

Surely text messages and emails that would have held much more investigative value prior to the testimony of Lisa Page, Peter Strzok and Bruce Ohr.  Surely, these “NEW” communications would have been valuable to Inspector General Michael Horowitz during his own 16 month investigation (Jan ’17 – May ’18); yet for some unknown reason apparently withheld.

Remember the first batch of released Peter Strzok and Lisa Page messages?  They were delivered to congress in July 2017; and released to the public in December 2017 and January 2018.

Those initial messages were also redacted upon release –  why?

Remember the $70,000 McCabe desk being redacted?  Does that sound like a redaction done by an altruistic investigative endeavor; or does that speak to the underlying ideology of the internal officials doing the message redactions?… Who are also likely controlling these recent releases…. Think about it.

It is important to note it appears only congress is leading the investigative sunlight upon these releases.  That makes it 100% political.  So, who is giving them to congress?

We can only surmise the same DOJ/FBI entities that did the initial redactions in July 2017.  Some element within the DOJ and FBI apparatus, that is apparently in control of the most significant investigative material and making decisions on who gets what, when, and how much.  It think it is a fair statement to say these controlling officials are some unknown element within the apparatus of the DOJ/FBI branch of the Administrative State.

Remember, for all matters related to the Russia investigation, Russia election interference, and anything related to the 2016 presidential campaign, U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions is recused.  That carves his office out from anything surrounding this activity; and positions Rod Rosenstein at the hub along with FBI Director Christopher Wray.

That would be the same FBI Director Christopher Wray who did exactly nothing as an outcome of the May 2018 release of the IG report; and the same Christopher Wray who hired BACK former DOJ-NSD head Dana Boente as the FBI Chief Legal Counsel to manage the FBI through the investigative minefield.  Together with the same Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein who testified to congress that he has absolutely no knowledge of who the lawyers are inside the DOJ and FBI that are giving instructions to Lisa Page and Peter Strzok not to answer congressional questions. WATCH:

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That testimony is not exactly a confidence builder for the diGenova proposition that some magnanimous investigative authority is holding a grand-jury wherein corrupt Lawfare associate James Baker is delivering devastating testimony to deconstruct and prosecute those former officials within the DOJ and FBI deep state.  Someone is sending the FBI lawyers into congressional testimony and telling Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr and Peter Strzok not to answer any congressional questions; including about their contacts with the media.

And don’t forget the DOJ decision to allow former Senate Intelligence Committee Security Chief, James Wolfe, to avoid any of the more consequential charges for leaking classified intelligence to the media. That’s yet another example that doesn’t elicit great confidence in prosecution for less obvious law-breaking. I digress.

Again, hopefully I’m wrong – but there’s a pattern here: Fast-n-Furious, IRS Targeting, Benghazi, Clinton emails, Spy-gate and FISA-gate all have a ring of familiarity to them specifically about how the Administrative State holds, and then strategically releases, information. The key to understanding the pattern is to accept the Administrative State does everything to protect the Administrative State; even when it seems like those inside the apparatus are not protecting the interests of the Administrative State, they are.

♦So what does this latest development actually look like; and what does it mean?

Well, we have a good example for reference as provided by James Comey.

In October 2016 James Comey publicly announced the re-opening of the Clinton email investigation due to the New York FBI Field Office notifying DC of hundreds of thousands of emails and messages.  FBI across the street from Main Justice was forced into action by FBI from New York and the EDNY.

Generally, the media framed this episode as Comey hurting Clinton; when actually the opposite was true. Comey didn’t make that decision in a vacuum, he was advised of the approach. The administrative state was more fearful of congress de-legitimizing Clinton’s presidency over post-election discoveries of hidden information. Comey was protecting her, and the state interests, not vice-versa. Remember, she was expected to win.

These latest “NEW” Peter Strzok messages, as timed for release, are following the same DOJ/FBI pattern and motivation.

By redacting the information within the prior Strzok and Page messages, and by withholding the “NEW” Strzok and Page messages (until now), the same internal officials within the DOJ/FBI (Administrative State), are controlling the potential for damage from them. Controlling the timing mitigates the risk. Nothing more.

From the DC perspective the hope is that Trump loses the House of Representatives; and with that loss the congressional alliance with the executive is removed. All of the corrupt elements enmeshed within the career DOJ and FBI appear to be controlling the outcomes here. Releasing the previously withheld “NEW” communication diffuses and mitigates their risk.

They DOJ/FBI kicked-the-can to September so they could release the messages prior to the election (in the closed 60-day prosecutorial window); they’ve already got Sessions muted/neutered, likely to be fired regardless of election outcome; and they’ve mitigated any value in discovery from a more aggressive AG replacement.

Again, for the umpteenth time, I want to be wrong. Bigly.

However, after watching a complete lack of action from the prior IG report on gross FBI misconduct (May ’18 until today); and factoring in the history of how DC operates their familiar Potomac two-step with all of the aforementioned examples; I just don’t see any magnanimous or investigative reason for withholding the prior information that would have exposed the scheme.

If the Strzok/Page messages were released in January through August, that would have severely impacted the Mueller investigation credibility. In addition, the IG report(s) and questioning of all previous witnesses by congress would have been enhanced. In my opinion that’s part of the reason these messages were withheld; not some super-stealthy plan to deliver the hammer upon Comey, Yates, McCabe, Strzok and all of the corrupt conspiring officials within the apparatus.  I hope I’m wrong on this.

On the upside, there’s the potential these upcoming releases will help politically in November and put the democrats on their heels in advance of the November election. If the MAGA community can succeed on November 6th perhaps the DOJ will eventually get around to prosecuting someone, anyone, for the transparently illegal constructs.

If, big if, by some wonderful fate of luck, the third IG report on FISA abuse by the FBI is released in the next few weeks, that too would provide some measure of optimism toward intentional pre-election accountability. However, knowing the complex process in releasing a finished IG report, it does not appear that is likely to happen.

Here’s Joe diGenova again:

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884 Responses to Newly Released Peter Strzok Text Messages and Emails – It’s Not The Content, It’s The Timing That Tells the Story…

  1. “Some element within the DOJ and FBI apparatus, that is apparently in control of the most significant investigative material and making decisions on who gets what, when, and how much. It think it is a fair statement to say these controlling officials are some unknown element within the apparatus of the DOJ/FBI branch of the Administrative State.”

    I think it is also fair to say that whoever controls the “what/when/how much” of the information spigot is both the director of the play and the orchestrator of mass consciousness. Context is everything.

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    • I wish there was an edit button. I meant to add that Trump is an exogenous actor who can break the play.

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    • Donzo says:

      The most frightening aspect of SD’s post is the idea that we don’t know who is charge of the release of information which has been so crucial to the Scheme Team’s timing as SD points out. It really drives home the degree to which the administrative state is the puppetmaster. But to believe it one also has to believe that Trump is their chump and I have a hard time believing this president is any kind of chump. Far from it.

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      • To add to the ‘frighteningness’, look at the eerie uniformity of the daily media message. Lockstep. Or the galvanizing memes that appear every morning from some Facebook meme mill. It’s like some supercomputer with powerful linguistic capabilities calculates then navigates the optimal route narrative in real time. Something beyond human. This is where I lose many people. But the upper elite have regular communications with Lucifer himself who is endowed with prescience. One of the chief functions of secularism was to make the world believe the devil doesn’t exist. However it is impossible to explain the eerie directedness of human history especially these last 200 years without resorting to a dark sentience with superhuman cunning.

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        • Dang, the last post posted on its own accord before I pressed a button. Joel Skousen called it revelatory demonic content. There is an evil clique which can see a few steps ahead. When Jesus encounters the demons, they ask him ‘why are you here before your appointed time’? The demon world has a keener sense of where we are in the eschatology than do humans.

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        • Donzo says:

          Who needs the Devil when you have people like Brennan, Holder, Obama, Comey, Clapper, Rhodes, Lynch, Yates, McCabe, Strzok, Page, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, and of course the head witch.

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        • NutGallery says:

          You might be connected to the wrong bubbles. Facebook memes have a extremely low reach compared to those generated on 4chan and reddit.

          Nearly 100% of the memes that develop a long reach are anti-establishment, pro-Trump, memes. When the meme creators realized this fact, it gave birth to the “The Left Can’t Meme” meme.

          Very few young people, who are the people who create the most successful memes, ever go on Facebook nowadays. Facebook is dead for people 30 years old and younger and quickly dying for those in their 30s. Its a major problem for Facebook and its why their stock took a huge hit in their last quarterly report.

          Memes that have long reach are usually originating in 4chan or some reddit forums. From their they move on to Discord, Snapchat, WhatsApp, VSCO, & Groupme, then they go to Twitter, and then finally to Facebook & Instagram.

          Memes that originate on Facebook usually stay on Facebook and never leave. The reason why is that they are no good!

          I used to spend thousands a month advertising on Facebook. Now I’m down to less than a $100 a month. They audience I’m trying to reach simply does not use Facebook anymore.

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      • oldschool says:

        Trump is no chump, but he may very well be facing “insubordination” at every level in his administration. I see no one, except maybe Pompeo, who gives Trump the respect given to other POTUS. Mattis public dissent from Trump at times has chilled me. Even when zero was gutting our armed forces, I don’t recall anyone speaking any dissent.

        We would not know any of this because POTUS would never be able to disclose that type of information and maintain our national security. For months this has nagged at me. Initially, I thought mueller tied Trump’s hands, but it could be much larger than Mueller. Hope I’m wrong.

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        • Donzo says:

          There are plenty of full on MAGA men and woman in the Trump Administration. Detractors have an outsized effect and should be removed post haste. I understand on some level layman’s that Trump has a big job in neutering the Deep State (understatement for the ages), but White House backstabbers? Sheeesh

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          • oldschool says:

            World history shows numerous accounts of leaders who have been betrayed, overthrown or asassinated. JFK in most recent history. Did not limit “insubordination” to “backstabbers in the whitehouse”. IDK

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            • Tom! says:

              Oldschool, I believe you are on the money with your assessment. I enjoy the clear eyed logical approach that you bring to the comment sections of these posts. Hopefully more will come to understand that the dangers to our freedoms are numerous and they won’t be addressed by putting all of our faith in one man. Donald Trump is a Godsend but what comes after? The tea party was destroyed at its birth by the enemy and a replacement party or movement has yet to rise up to continue the fight. Americans need to act like Americans now more than ever.

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  2. I think the reason that everything seems like the familiar same ol’ same ol’ is that President Trump and his allies have learned to use the enemies own weapons against THEM.

    As to the question of “why now?” I have been saying for quite some time—Timing for maximum effect.

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  3. David R. Graham says:

    You know, a sad thing for atheists/seculars is that they have neither scripture nor hymns to repair to for calm and steadiness in times of toil or mirth.

    O, they they have treatises and anthems, they can shout the slogans and chant La Marseillaise, but such are calming, steadying. Slogans and leftist chants yield excitement whereas truth is in relaxation. And treatises and anthems do not survive the test of true value made by long experience, but scripture and the Kyrie do.

    “Train hard, fight easy.” – General Alexander Suvorov
    And visit the confessional before you visit the battlefield.

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  4. Howie hit the nail on the head: “All we need is impartial applicatin’ of the law to the facts.”

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  5. Probably mentioned earlier, but I caught Hannity on radio yesterday with S. Carter & Bret Baier. Hannity and Carter aren’t the brightest bulbs on the tree, but they do seem to have good sources (I often wonder who Ms. Carter’s source is in that she seems to have come from nowhere fairly recently, seems to be so plugged in and whether there’s any kind of quid pro quo behind it all if you take my meaning…wink, wink, but I digress).

    All three of them said that their sources are intimating that Mueller is done, has no where else to go and is going to shit-can this circus sooner, rather than later. The bottom line being, as we all know, this entire charade has its origin in the mother of all poisonous trees and ANYTHING Mueller pulls out of his wazoo will be tainted and everybody knows it. Frankly, I think Mueller’s been looking for a face-saving exit strategy ever since he realized his buddy Comey handed him a sack of dripping dung from Team Hillary to save his own butt, rather than in the interests of justice.

    Whether the bad guys ever get prosecuted, or this ends in a Mexican standoff (Mueller goes away and PDJT reserves his Trump cards) is another question which will all depend on the lay of the land after the midterms.

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    • Good post and that is very informative. Just a side
      note, Sara Carter is married since 2010 with two children. Her husband was in the Army deployed to Afghanistan and was blinded during battle.
      A grenade exploded above his head.

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      • That I didn’t know and now I feel ashamed of myself.

        Thanks….I’ve been in public service and an officer of the court for over 35 years and I’ve seen similar instances where the utmost courtesies are extended to the wives of men who sacrificed for their country….perhaps that’s the reason she’s being given an inside line.

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    • Grassleygirl/Breitbartista says:

      Brett Baier?? Are you sure you didn’t mean Greg Jarrett?
      Don’t listen to Hannity on 📻, but I can’t imagine “nevertrumper” Brett on board with Hannity.😒

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        • I won't back down says:

          Since this has become a hobby of mine, when my life slows down (significantly) and this is all over I am going to go out and buy some of the books that have been written including Greg Jarrett’s track them by publication date and see who was “just sellin’ books” versus who was the best sourced. I will have to also line up the bloggers and reporters in some sort of grouping too. I am pretty sure we’ll be able to figure out with pretty good certainty who had the best sources and who was the most “careful” in vetting them. Yes my project will take years. No, my wife won’t forgive me. Anyone who wants in on the project, just let me know. When I get done I am pretty sure my ranking of the top ones will have Sundance right there at the top (at least first) and I have to say my observation is that he pretty much figured most of this out on his own – i’ll note right here and now he is definitely “not cashing in” unlike others who get interviewed often or participate on panels or have advertisers paying for their living/podcasts. It will be interesting to see who is #2. I will give awards and nominate #1 for some sort of medal of honor (depending on who the president is by then I think it would be appropriate for some of them to get the equivalent of the Pulitzer they’ll never see). And they will have my forever undying gratitude for pointing us all in this direction. Again, this is regardless of how it ends (my personal goal line on this is jail or not for Jim Comey or anyone higher in rank than him).

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    • gda says:

      “Surely, these “NEW” communications would have been valuable to Inspector General Michael Horowitz during his own 16 month investigation (Jan ’17 – May ’18); yet for some unknown reason apparently withheld.”

      The initial IG Report (Jan ’17 – May ’18) to do with the Clinton “matter” The Strzok/Page emails were hardly that pertinent to that investigation.

      They were/are VERY pertinent to the IG Report relating to FISA etc.

      Not sure how that plays, but that stood out to me immediately.

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    • gda says:

      My first thoughts on hearing the news on the Manafort/Podesta thing was that Mueller had taken the knee and there would be a wrap up of his “investigation” pretty swiftly now.

      “Look President Trump, I’m finally investigating a Demorat”
      “Look President Trump, I’m helping to clean the swamp (by investigating Podesta et al”
      “Look President Trump, I’m not going to drag out another trial through the mid-terms”
      “Look President Trump, I’m not going to indict or require a sit down”

      How much clearer can you get?

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    • Dutchman says:

      Would of ‘bought’ the “and PDJT holds his Trump cards”, if I had never seen his Oct. 2016 speech.

      Now won’t ‘buy in’ to any analyses that involves DJT not pursueing the evildoer elitists to the ends of the earth, to the gates of hell, and rendering them inert.

      He didn’t come this far, risk this much, work this hard, to settle for anything less than total victory.

      Sure, he made hold his fire, while keeping his powder dry, for tactical or strategic advantage. And, as he has said, he has near infinite patience. But he is NOT going to give up, NOT going to surrender, and NOT going to agree to some kind of compromise, that leaves his enemies intact. Ain’t gonna happen.

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    • mr.piddles says:

      Carter is a legit journalist. Spent time in Afghanistan, Pakistani border (w/ Pakistani army, apparently), Iraq.

      https://everipedia.org/wiki/sara-carter-reporter/
      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/11/12/mass-grave-yazidis-iraq-tells-horror-story/75640706/
      etc.

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  6. Targysan says:

    Hang them all.

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  7. namberak says:

    Wake me when they start the perp walks. Otherwise, it’s just more yapping. :-/

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  8. Larry Payne says:

    “In my opinion that’s part of the reason these messages were withheld; not some super-stealthy plan to deliver the hammer upon Comey, Yates, McCabe, Strzok and all of the corrupt conspiring officials within the apparatus. I hope I’m wrong on this.”

    SD, you are NOT wrong. Some people just love nursing a battered conservative syndrome affliction. I have long thought and posted here at CTH exactly the same outcome as you have so correctly outlined, and was excoriated as being a negative nellie. As was Howie. To be honest, because of your being correct, I have pretty much lost interest in this whole mess and now skip past most of the comments and just don’t bother responding to it anymore. I used to read every single comment at CTH. Not anymore. This treasonous scheme has been exposed by you over a yr. ago. I have seen little new info by anyone in that time that was not already known by you and us. So, for me it is now pretty much old news.

    Trump was correct when he tweeted that the current DOJ is no different than when Eric Holder ran it. Sessions should cringe at that.

    Thank you for your outstanding work.

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    • Julian says:

      That might well be correct, but the question becomes, who can reform the DOJ? Who can fire Sessions and put in a MAGA Patriot to run the DOJ?

      Until someone works out how to remove Sessions from his job Trump will be fighting with one hand behind his back.

      Mores the pity.

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  9. Summer says:

    I think most of us hope for the best but still use their “intelligence guided by experience,” as Rush would say.

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    • oldschool says:

      agree summer and namebreak. We’ve analyzed and talked it to death. We know all we need to at this point to know that something needs to be done. Hubby usually reminds me of all that has come before and left us longing for truth, action and justice, only to be disappointed time and time again. Nothing will change unless Trump can pull the trigger and blow up the corrupt system. It really is why we voted for him. If he cannot, I wiil accept it as God’s Will. The Fourth Turning. No guaranteed outcome.

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  10. Donzo says:

    Is there any explanation as to why Strzok and Page would leave behind a detailed record of their nefarious actions? Me thinks someone was setting them up for the fall, though I can’t imagine how they might have convinced them to communicate by text. It wouldn’t be the Occam’s Razor explanation.

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    • Donzo says:

      Razor explanation being they were dummies and fools.

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      • wolfmoon1776 says:

        I believe you are right – they acted like fools – and their error sprang from these specific things.

        (1) The historic INACTION of the NSA to make use of any of its data overtly, most of all against the establishment. (assumption of continuity)

        (2) The assumption that the establishment’s accumulated crimes had not reached a point of military significance, which might trip unknown military wires (unknown unknowns).

        (3) The belief that the military had been sufficiently neutered by Obama, that it would not act against them (e.g., Sixth Eye).

        (4) The belief that their model of inducing criminal behavior in others, and either gaining control or goading them into legal jeopardy, was infallible, because it had always worked.

        If all these beliefs were true, all they had to do was “clean up Trump” after the election.

        It turned out that none of them were true. They were dealing with a President who understood Sun Tzu, went to military school, but never served in the military, and appeared to be a draft dodger. HUGE MISTAKE to underestimate the VSGPOTUS.

        All the military had to do was act on some buried emergency order. THAT is why the hatred for Flynn, too, IMO.

        It’s all in the design. I believe the design is old, too.

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    • Summer says:

      Hillary was going to win. Trump winning was “an unlikely event” like “dying before 40.” They were careless because of that and because of the corrupt, lawless culture within DOJ and FBI.

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      • Donzo says:

        That was the media narrative, but there was plenty of angst from insiders who recognized Trump was competitive and that there was a real possibility he could win, Slick Billy among them. Oh, the irony that they fell for the narrative lies they helped to create in the press. But I do suspect you are right. Pure hubris.

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        • Summer says:

          Yes, they realized Trump had a chance, albeit a small one. Unlikely does not mean impossible. Their gurus never predicted 100% for Crooked. Hence the insurance policy that was supposed to take care of the matters in the unlikely event of Trump winning.

          I think we might be surprised how many arrogant, contemptuous of the regular folks bureocrats exchanged similar messages the public that pays their salaries is not supposed to see. It is the corrupt DC culture inside these rotten to the core institutions that makes Strzoks and Pages of this world feel free to communicate and act the way they did. In other words, par for the course.

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      • Howie says:

        Trump…The Big Whoopsie!

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      • paper doll says:

        If justice prevails, it will be due to their incompetence. Their stunning incompetence allowed PDJT to realize his truly won victory, when all was rigged . I’m banking on their incompetence more than anything else. lol

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    • Indimex says:

      “Insurance Plan.” They thought it was fool proof. They live in the DC bubble. No concept of reality. Hence, their carelessness.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      They were having an affair and the spouses were suspicious and checking their personal phones, so they used their FBI phones for their incessant conversations. Their stupidty was a great gift to Trump. 🙂

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  11. wolfmoon1776 says:

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  12. Howie says:

    No Mo’ ebbidence needed. No ‘investigations needed…it is all laying there ‘in plain sight’.

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  13. Howie says:

    Seems….

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  14. Bogeyfree says:

    Simple question for any CTH attorneys out there:

    If Bruce Ohr indeed communicated with Weissman, in order to keep him in the loop on the status of the dossier and things, knowing the dossier was a fraud, is there a crime here (maybe obstruction of justice) and if so would Weissman be subject to any possible criminal charges?

    If that answer is yes does that also suggest Mueller could be the subject of possible criminal charges?

    I’ve not seen this discussed so what to ask?

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  15. wyntre says:

    A fascinating interview with Joe diGeneva, in 2013, by the DC Bar.

    Legends in the Law: A Conversation with Joseph diGeneva

    (BTW, his father was an opera singer)

    https://www.dcbar.org/bar-resources/publications/washington-lawyer/articles/february-2013-legends-in-the-law.cfm

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  16. Kate says:

    May all of the communists/socialists of the last 3 decades (ok add Soros) be brought to karmic justice in a very open way. Such evil cannot survive .

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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      There is palpable angst among the socialists, former socialists, and “former” socialists. I would say “let God sort them out”, but perhaps a certain amount of confession will be good for the souls of some of them first. I wish no harm whatsoever to any who have not committed crimes, but I’m afraid that the number who HAVE committed major crimes is going to be quite shocking. They mistook the fact that we didn’t know what they were doing to us, for the hope that we would NEVER know what they were doing to us.

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  17. Zippy says:

    “I’m of a generally more cynical disposition after years of following these creeps.”

    Same here, but not merely “generally.” More like “extremely.”

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  18. MLK says:

    Incisive chroniclers such as yourself can be forgiven for still believing that Rule of Law is a meaningful driver in this Factional War. It isn’t. It really isn’t any different than those that have played out in CCP-led China.

    The 2016 election was unique in that the dominant establishment factions, what is rightly thought of as the UniParty (and I refer to as Democrats and Clinton/Bush/Obama Democrat-Republicans) united in purpose: To throw the election to Hillary and, failing that, destroy and remove Trump.

    One of the reasons that POTUS Trump is already the greatest president of our lifetimes is that he understood from the beginning that the Administrative State/Deep State malefactors would be supported by political and financial interests of their establishment factions. They wanted MAGA (in the broadest sense) neutered and thus gave the FBI/DOJ conspirators succor, figuring it would at least distract and derail POTUS Trump from MAGA.

    But all of their entrapment gambits failed. Not just before the election but all of them after he took the oath. That’s why when Russia Collusion came a cropper they switched to Obstruction. That’s what the Flynn Frame-up was all about — goading POTUS into something they could purport to be Obstruction of Justice. Comey was laying the predicate (narrative) with his fib-memos.

    Now the wheels have completely come off Mueller’s efforts.

    For anyone who still doubts POTUS Trump just consider what firepower was deployed against him. The whole lot of them and it was no match for our POTUS.

    So now we’ve finally entered the windup phase. Figuring out who losses their heads and then life will go on. That, per the above, is not the reinitiating of Rule of Law and Justice without fear or favor. It is POTUS Trump extracting what and who he wants, knowing that he cannot get everyone and everything he wants unless he want them to stay at war with him. He is subject to the Containment Imperative along with everyone else.

    Beginning on election night I naively thought they would take his generous peace offer. On and off since I’ve noodled over the contours of what a settlement would look like. But then the war raged again.

    What the establishment factions will settle for at this point is pretty clear. They deliver (Indictments and guilty pleas) from the principals in FBI/DOJ. The rest is memory-holed.

    Knowing POTUS he wants and will get more than that.

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    • zorrorides says:

      Dear POTUS:
      Burn them down. Even if you spend the next 6+ years at it, burn those arrogant ‘honorable’ DOJ/ FIB paycheck frauds down to the ground. All of them who use misapplied law to subvert and obstruct justice, female or male, just lock them up.
      Your American voter, Zorro

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    • jbowen82 says:

      I think the November midterms are their Ardennes Offensive. If it works, they alter the game and buy another year or two to come up with another strategy to preserve the status quo. If it fails, we’re in Berlin in 6 months. We have to get everyone out to vote.

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      • MLK says:

        The true heart of The Resistance from the beginning has been Wall Street/Multinational interests hellbent to stop POTUS Trump’s Global Trade Reset.

        The announcement of the US-Mexico Trade Pact signals that he has the beat and they know it. They’ve switched to an inside/compromise strategy to replace scorched earth resistance.

        I’m going to once again zig when even those I respect are zagging. The midterm election will indeed be an inflection point. Even if the Democrats win control of the House (and I don’t expect them to: Rs lose or gain up to 6 at this point), The Resistance as we’ve known it will not be restarted.

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      • farrier105 says:

        I heard from Alex Jones back in early 2017 that we already were in Berlin. That was after I emailed one of his reporters about the dangers for Trump-Russia on New Year’s Day 2017. Apparently, Jones believed this Pieczenik guy that Hillary and her gang were completely neutered. Oh, yes, by July 2018, “THE STORM” was even brought up. Pieczenik was still claiming “THE STORM” had already happened in 2016 and 2017. The military was in charge with Trump on top. Nothing was done for months into 2017, because we “already won.”

        That is called “fixing the enemy.”

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    • railer says:

      Good post. Yes, I too have looked for a path to a settlement all along in this. A good deal is always possible with Trump, a true win-win is something he craves, but Trump has consistently walked away from the table when confronted with a bad deal. He’s been doing it on trade and clearly on this massive conspiracy. He’ll only settle on his terms, and he’s clearly winning with this strategy. The Swamp should have taken his first deal, because each successive offer will get worse for them. I agree with you, prosecutions of top FBI/DOJ officials are now inevitable, and they might not have been a year ago. However, the Swamp cannot allow anything to reach Obama, and this means nothing can be allowed to reach Lynch. Brennan, Clapper and Comey are on their own, and the Swamp will be forced to let them burn. Strzok et al are doomed. They’ll flip against Brennan, Clapper and Comey and that will be the end of the chain, I suspect. Trump’s going to demand that the CIA/NSA/FISA/Five Eyes/DOJ/State/Pentagon nexus of unConstitutional manipulations gets neutered. He won’t get the whole pie, but if he puts a good dent in that criminal horror, it’ll be great for the country.

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      • MLK says:

        “Trump has consistently walked away from the table when confronted with a bad deal. He’s been doing it on trade and clearly on this massive conspiracy. He’ll only settle on his terms. . .”

        He’s the greatest president of our lifetimes, and I was 18 when the last great president Ron Reagan took the oath so I am consciously ranking Trump higher. Already.

        An essential reason I believe this already is because he hasn’t allowed them to derail and distract him from his agenda.

        The Clinton/Bush/Obama era, when we squandered peace and prosperity (and Unipolar power), is finally over. Fifty years from now, of those three only Obama will be remembered, and only because he was the first black president.

        What I’m getting at is POTUS Trump wants HISTORY, not an eight year stint as a figurehead for the governing class. I should also note in this regard that Trump’s revealed thinking and actions since taking the oath reveal he means to return the usurped power of the Administrative State to its legitimate Constitutional branches, not just tame and punish the Deep State.

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      • MLK says:

        “However, the Swamp cannot allow anything to reach Obama . . .”

        But it already has. His legacy has been under insidious degradation since POTUS Trump sent his “Obama had me ‘wiretapped’ tweet and Obama ran into the woods like a little girl.

        Believe me, no one more than me and for longer than me wants the whole merry band exposed and locked up. But, given where we are the best way to fix Hillary and Obama’s little red wagons — meaning not some compromise we have to settle for — is full exposure of their malefactions under a grant of amnesty if they tell the truth and the whole truth (like the South African Truth Commission). They would be denied martyrdom and couldn’t retcon once POTUS Trump left office.

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      • MLK says:

        “Lynch. Brennan, Clapper and Comey are on their own, and the Swamp will be forced to let them burn. Strzok et al are doomed. They’ll flip against Brennan, Clapper and Comey and that will be the end of the chain . . . ”

        Let’s take these in turn.

        Lynch was not a Shot Caller. She just didn’t get in the way and grudgingly stepped in when she was forced to.

        Conversely, Brennan was not only a Shot Caller but for him it probably would have been limited to FISA spying opposition research leaked to the media. He also is in a league by himself among the conspirators in setting up the others to protect himself, including even Obama. I’m quite serious — I’m surprised he wasn’t suicided a long time ago.

        Clapper is a tragic clown. Yes, he and Comey are off to prison in my opinion.

        But an essential point I made originally is that all of these characters must take for the team whatever is worked out in the eventual settlement. Unless I miss my mark, if these or others are indicted it will be announced with plea deals already in place.

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    • For Eyes says:

      At this point its a death match on both sides. The time for a truce ended a long time ago.

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  19. Caius Lowell says:

    But I thought Strzok was a huge patriot who cared only for the FBI, America, and God?

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  21. Di Genova is stating it as a fact. Why would he do that if he had just rumors at his disposal?
    I suppose he isn’t lying…

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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      I agree – it’s more than rumors.

      DiGenova likely knows a set of facts which lead inexorably to the conclusions he states.

      I believe that both Sundance and DiGenova are right. DOJ lower-level people are minimizing, slowing down, moderating, bracing for impact. They are controlling the explosion, because THAT is what the Obama administration did with everything. Nevertheless, the Big Ugly is erupting right under them. The corrupt elements are doing what they do while being watched closely, IMO.

      I see this as military strategy, similar to WWII denazification or Japanese surrender.

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  22. Anonymous says:

    J. Edgar Hoover would be upset about the Strzok-Comey-McCabe crowd ruining his agency.

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  23. gda says:

    OK. I’m going to come right out and say that I would NOT be surprised if Sessions HAS indeed been playing 128-D Chess with all of us.

    H/T to:
    – Ezra Cohen-Watnick for neutralizing The Obama DOJ, which was still controlling things deep into PT’s first year. That control is now over.
    – Huber for running a totally airtight investigation
    – The IG, who has been referring criminals to Huber as their criminality becomes apparent in the course of his investigation (Trump/FISA).
    – James Baker, Bruce Ohr and Lisa Page, for spilling their guts on the entire scheme
    – The Grand Jury for indicting James Comey et al
    – Those who provided timely selected leaks of the Strzok/Page texts from the DOJ
    – The NSA for keeping a close eye on all these evil folk
    – A whole lot of players to be named at a later date

    Complicated business folks. We’re lucky it’s only taking 2 years for the indictments to start.

    PT & Jeff Sessions – like Peaches & Herb – “Reunited, and it feels so good”

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    • G. Combs says:

      Ezra Cohen-Watnick was the ‘tell’ for me.

      “Ezra Cohen-Watnick ran intelligence for the National Security Council. There, he decided collecting his colleagues’ phone and email data was a good idea…

      A former National Security Council official now slated to work for Attorney General Jeff Sessions explored ways to surreptitiously monitor the communications of White House staff for leaks or perceived political disloyalty to Donald Trump, according to three former Trump NSC officials familiar with the effort….” https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-aides-plan-to-stop-leaks-spy-on-his-co-workers

      In a related Thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1038270744973791232.html
      Harold Finch says:
      “A FISA on brennan explains why Fiona Hill was left in place. It also explains why Ezra Cohen Watnick left NSC & now works directly for Sessions, & with Huber.
      John Brennan was clearly leading the operations involved w framing and overthrowing trump. @drawandstrike have pointed out at length we believe theres a FISA Title 1 warrant aimed at brennan & has been a long time….”

      Brennan made a surprise trip to Russia on March 14, 2016. According to Moscow Times he met with the FSS which was formerly the KGB.

      Harold Finch also says:

      I have to ask: is John Brennan a russian asset? Look at the way he says that. Its so smug: this guy when he says that gives me flashbacks to Aldrich Ames….

      Now fast forward to @realdonaldtrump having a summit w Pres Putin: John Brennan lost his mind about that. Is it bc John Brennan was afraid that retired KGB Col Putin was going to reveal John Brennan was an asset?….”

      From An Analysis of Rachel Maddow’s interview of John Brennan https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1032033610885488640.html

      Also another Treeper mentioned the President plus the AG can initiate a FISA surveillance without going through the FISA court process.

      Think what two hops from Brennan would net especially when President Trump goads him.

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  24. AccountabilityPlease says:

    Cheer up man. Even if the information was timed to be released within the 60 day window to prevent indictments and prosecutions before the mid-terms, it still doesn’t preclude action after November. On the contrary, there is now enough information in the public record to make it virtually impossible for the scheme team to avoid prosecution. And when Trump declassifies the information sought by Congress, it will only bolster the case against the schemers.

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  25. jeans2nd says:

    An explanation for the release of these emails/texts might be that they were being used in a grand jury leak investigation on Strzock-Page. As the emails/texts are being released now, one would surmise that the grand jury returned a no true bill, declined to indict. Thus no need to keep the emails/texts any longer.
    After all, a truly good subordinate always makes certain there is documentation to prove a higher-up is to blame. (wonder if Stonetear has learned this lesson yet?)

    If so, this means the Deep State won this round. AG Jeff assigned Rosenstein to head the leak investigations. Rosenstein is gloating.

    Meanwhile AG Jeff continues his Tour America walkabout. Last week found AG Jeff in Kansas City, iirc. AG Jeff spends more time on the road than in D.C. Odd.

    One stray thread which continues to niggle – Ezra Cohen Watnick. Where does ECW fit? Were it not for ECW’s presence, one would be tempted to conclude that all is lost. And yet…
    -.-

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  26. Donzo says:

    “Surely, these “NEW” communications would have been valuable to Inspector General Michael Horowitz during his own 16 month investigation (Jan ’17 – May ’18); yet for some unknown reason apparently withheld.”
    OK, SD. But now they’re out with much more to come. The IG has yet to finish his FISA report and this is consequential evidence-top FBI and DOJ officials leaked super secret confidential FISA material to individuals in the media to frame DJT. (Remember they new it was leaked Kryptonite.)That means the Horowitz report will be delayed until after the election to incorporate the new texts. Scheme Team at work. They don’t expect that report to go down well so delay delay delay and get the House.

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  27. AH_C says:

    SD, good analysis. But I have a thot exercise.

    How would one play this out, if Oboobie pardoned all the deep state hacks?

    Everything they did, theoretically can only covered up until Oboobie left office. Oboobie can’t pardon anyone in advance of crimes to be committed after leaving office.

    If Trump revealed all prior to Mueller even taking the SC assignment, the deep state would have laughed at Trump as they waved their pardon.

    Soooo. Why not get them to repeat their crimes under Trump, thinking they’re immune and will in due time be pardoned by the successor to an impeached Trump?

    That’s the script we’re watching now.

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    • mimbler says:

      Mueller has really slowed Trump’s agenda, although Trump is doing a great job slogging through it.
      No way that this is something Trump wanted and planned.

      He wouldn’t have impeded his MAGA just to get people to repeat crimes and punish them.
      IMO of course,

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      • AH_C says:

        Loik at it this way… If the deep state believed they were untouchable for sedition and treason, how do we lock them up? I think the pardons came as a defense move after Trump was elected.

        Plan A – she was supposed to win
        Plan B – she was supposed to win the recounts
        Plan C – he would be indicted and impeached

        At every turn, Trump out maneuvered them. When in this deep, they had to press on even though the pardon “expired”, or flip. However, I don’t think it’s Baker that flipped, so much as it was Lisa Page. You only need a couple to flip from within FBI and DOJ to take down the rest.

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  28. farrier105 says:

    Sundance,

    It is interesting that you mention Fast and Furious as an example of how the Administrative State protects itself as Sharyl Attkisson was recently interviewed on Lee Stranahan and Garland Nixon’s FAULT LINES broadcast and mentioned being the only reporter in the MSM probing the scandal for awhile. Ms. Attkisson mentioned how the GOP and the Democrats are not always in disagreement about how things should be done. A lot of their sniping is just to keep us occupied, thinking the two parties are always in opposition to one another.

    The spy agencies do a lot of covert operations by templates. They will do the same things over and over again until the template does not work anymore. This rarely happens, but sometimes a template becomes so obvious in its repetition, it becomes a joke, like fake chemical attacks in Syria blamed on Assad. Now, if Assad just sticks his nose into Idlib, there will be hell to pay. Chemical weapons don’t have to enter into it.

    Careful analysis of what is happening now with Trump-Russia-Wikileaks needs reverse engineered so that the structure of the template can be completely understood. Someone writes a book about it, and maybe we never see it again. What will happen after this one is over looks something like this:

    1. Lots of books written by both sides.
    2. Cottage industries started supposedly seeking the “truth about what happened.”
    3. Endless debates about what happened held from time-to-time, usually coinciding with an anniversary of some kind, like the shooting of Seth Rich, or something.
    4. There will be movies made, like the RAMBO movies about POWs being rescued from Vietnam, only about how some similar coup plot was foiled by some super agent of some kind. This will make Americans feel good about the outcome as they get to vicariously experience justice being meted out on the movie screen.
    5. Life will return to “normalcy,” a state of life which has as its definition a constantly moving target.

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    • That template concept helps a person focus on patterns more quickly.

      Many people enjoy a good puzzle and will have a few unrecognized patterns running in their background processing during the day as they try and work them out. I think this brings pleasure to us. Our lives have taught us that the reward of discovering answers is worth the frustration during the process.

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  29. Retired IG says:

    I read this post early this morning and have been mulling over it all day. Just feel irritated that Hannity, when he interviews Joe DiGenova never asks- “and just who are your sources.” I have had good feelings about Joe, but today am questioning my gut reaction to him, wondering why I DO NOT question him((in my mind) before I believe what he says? At this late hour, I’m tired but think believing Joe D. is wishful thinking on my part. And that is so depressing. I want to believe him, but another part of me says, why should I ? What a conundrum.

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    • The awareness of our feelings is like glancing at the gauges on the dashboard. And yet some say we using our rational thoughts to justify a decision we made based on our feelings.

      My experience is that a decision informed by a clear-eyed assessment of my gut reaction, including where that reaction might be coming from will always lead to better outcomes.

      That last step is key. Accuracy can’t be gained from a gauge on the dashboard. It is just a flag to tell you to do the diagnostic work to determine what exactly it is telling you.

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  30. Dell Mar says:

    Mr. H and Mr. H are releasing them.

    Regards
    Dell

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    • I won't back down says:

      i agree. H stands for Huber and Horowitz. I don’t think it is Huber (he’d be bound by grand jury secrecy rules. Horowitz is letting folks preview his upcoming report on FISA abuse.
      It’ll be a doozy. This ain’t rocket science folks.

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  31. ledygrey says:

    C-Span aired a discussion with former NSA Director Michael Rogers, former CIA Director Michael Hayden, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and former CIA – Counter Intelligence Deputy Director Phillip Mudd this past week at George Mason University. The topic was “Presidents and the Intelligence Community”.

    There is a great moment a little after 54:20 with Rogers flat out denying the story the press has told about POTUS asking Rogers to deny evidence of collusion. This was Rogers first public engagement since retiring and I got the feeling he decided to participate so as to act as a kind of counter weight to Clapper, Hayden, and Mudd.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?451323-1/intel-chiefs-discuss-intelligence-community-presidency-relationship

    “Panelists shared their positions on voicing criticism of President Trump, and explained why they have or have not chosen to do so. They specifically discussed the dynamic between President Trump and the intelligence community, and offered advice to current and aspiring IC professionals facing a chief executive who has expressed doubt about their work and conclusions.”

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  32. jeans2nd says:

    There is a reason for maintaining hope for justice. A long shot, but a reason, nonetheless.
    This is long. Please stay with me.

    USC 1030 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1030
    “(a) Whoever—
    (1) having knowingly accessed a computer without authorization or exceeding authorized access, and by means of such conduct having obtained information that has been determined by the United States Government pursuant to an Executive order or statute to require protection against unauthorized disclosure for reasons of national defense or foreign relations, or any restricted data, as defined in paragraph y. of section 11 of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954, with reason to believe that such information so obtained could be used —>>>to the injury of the United States—<<>>it harms the country—<<<."
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/trump-russia-probe-fbi-fisa-application/

    Here we are, back to the illegal NSA database searches and the FBI contractors.

    U.S. government computers were used to create the FISA, and to create the information in the FISA. Which is U.S. Code 1030.

    O/T Atty Tolman, who worked in counterterrorism, was asked, 01:41, if the "sisters" reference in the Strzock-Page text referred to CIA and Defense Intelligence.
    01:47 "It is a term of art, and it's recognized in the departments, the Dept of Defense, the Dept of Justice. It is often referred, when I worked in the counterterrorism area. It referred to the counterintelligence and intelligence entities."
    -.-

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  33. jeans2nd says:

    Well, that last comment did not come out properly. Squirrels in my wires again. Will try one last time. Please delete the previous comment. Thx

    There is a reason for maintaining hope for justice. A long shot, but a reason, nonetheless.
    This is long. Please stay with me.

    USC 1030 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1030
    “(a) Whoever—
    (1) having knowingly accessed a computer without authorization or exceeding authorized access, and by means of such conduct having obtained information that has been determined by the United States Government pursuant to an Executive order or statute to require protection against unauthorized disclosure for reasons of national defense or foreign relations, or any restricted data, as defined in paragraph y. of section 11 of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954, with reason to believe that such information so obtained could be used —>>>to the injury of the United States—<<>>it harms the country—<<<."
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/trump-russia-probe-fbi-fisa-application/

    Here we are, back to the illegal NSA database searches and the FBI contractors.
    U.S. government computers were used to create the FISA, and to create the information in the FISA. Which is U.S. Code 1030.

    O/T Atty Tolman, who worked in counterterrorism, was asked, 01:41, if the "sisters" reference in the Strzock-Page text referred to CIA and Defense Intelligence.
    01:47 "It is a term of art, and it's recognized in the departments, the Dept of Defense, the Dept of Justice. It is often referred, when I worked in the counterterrorism area. It referred to the counterintelligence and intelligence entities."
    -.-

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  34. L. E. Joiner says:

    Sundance, if you have not already done so, why not contact Joe diGenova directly with this post and ask him for a response? You raise many cogent doubts, but Mr diGenova seems quite confident in his revelations about a grand jury investigating all this and Baker’s role in it. Is he making it up. /LEJ

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  35. Karl Ushanka says:

    I love Trump, but it has taken too long to bring charges. If any of us did just one of the crimes the swamp is guilty of, we’d have been charged within a week.

    Only fools that follow an anonymous guy who posts riddles on an anonymous website think this is some sort of plan – that thousands of indictments are being prepped to drop all at once.

    Two years now wasted.

    Perhaps someone can restore the rule of law. Sessions is not that someone.

    Trump is it. When he’s gone, we’re back to “R’s” and “D’s” who take us back to the gradual decline.

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  36. Jason Jones says:

    I think a healthy dose of skepticism is always in order, but this time things seem different. DiGenova was very precise in naming the person who’s flipped, and you don’t do that on national tv unless you know something. Now, just how far reaching this is, and whether or not it gets to the true roots is another matter, but there’s reason to believe that a grand jury is in place and someone is talking.

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  37. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! I have conservative apnea. None of what I’ve read on this site has ever come to pass. It is quite evident that the fix is in. We are reading, writing and talking in an echo chamber. I’m sorry to say, but we really are outnumbered. The left and the establishment, including the Republicans, will through impeachment, dry terror and as a last resort bloodshed remove Trump one way or another.

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