Federal Prosecutors Convict Rebellious Septuagenarians For Purchasing Ginseng at Wrong Time of Year…

Thankfully we don’t have to worry about those pesky diabetic septuagenarians running amok with bags of illegal Arkansas ginseng any longer.  Today a federal conviction hopes to stomp out the underground treatment of Alzheimers, heart disease, fatigue, erectile dysfunction, hepatitis C, high blood pressure and menopausal symptoms….

MISSOURI – […] The Springfield News-Leader reports 77-year-old Kermit Schofield and his wife, 73-year-old Sandy Schofield were sentenced Tuesday.

The couple farms and sells herbs in Theodosia, a town of about 250 people near the Missouri-Arkansas border.

Federal prosecutors say that between June 2013 and August 2015 the Schofields illegally bought more than 100 pounds of ginseng in Arkansas. Prosecutors say the couple bought the ginseng outside the permitted time frame for purchasing ginseng in Missouri, and they knew it was illegal transport ginseng out of Arkansas without a state certification. (more)

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360 Responses to Federal Prosecutors Convict Rebellious Septuagenarians For Purchasing Ginseng at Wrong Time of Year…

  1. amwick says:

    So,,, I tried to find out specifics about this case.. because I don’t know how this really involves AG Sessions.. The case was in court December of 2017, the investigation had to be prior to that…Here is the case # Case Number: 6:17-cr-03146-BCW maybe someone can look it up. One oddball case and so many people are faulting the AG… SMH…. what about all the criminals that office is going after.. No one cares??

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    • Tonawanda says:

      I cannot think of a thread which has been so unfair in my history of reading CTH.

      Actually, this may be the ONLY thread I have read which is unfair, but it is unfair.

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    • keeler says:

      People are venting. Their angry is correct but misplaced here, far as I can tell.

      If they had sold a $50,000 car without a title or following the correct procedure, people would people be less sympathetic. But because of their age, the obscurity of the ginseng industry, and that industry’s regulations the issue becomes less black and white.

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    • Marygrace Powers says:

      amwick – Here’s a link.

      Western District of Missouri Federal Courthouse – Springfield, Missouri
      Case Number: 6:17-cr-03146-BCW
      Judge: David P. Rush
      Court: United States District Court for the Western District of Missouri (Greene County)

      “By pleading guilty, the Schofields each admitted that they illegally purchased a total of approximately 114.9 pounds of ginseng from sources in Arkansas on several occasions between June 25, 2013, and Aug. 15, 2015. They knew it was illegal to purchase ginseng that was transported out of Arkansas without the required state certification. The purchases occurred outside the permitted time frame for purchasing ginseng in Missouri. The Schofields also admitted they falsified records related to the purchases.

      For example, the Schofields purchased approximately 57.4 pounds of dried ginseng from sources in Arkansas on June 19 and Aug. 15, 2015, for a total of $22,940. Federal authorities executed a search warrant at their residence and seized 118 pounds of illegally obtained dried ginseng before the Schofields were able to sell it. Under the terms of today’s plea agreement, the Schofields must forfeit the seized ginseng to the government.”

      https://www.morelaw.com/verdicts/case.asp?n=6:17-cr-03146-BCW%20&s=MO&d=109430

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      • amwick says:

        Ty.. I saw that, and I was wondering about the investigation and the timing… if they pleaded guilty in December then things could have been in the works a while before. Blaming AG Sessions is not really accurate, nope not at all.

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        • ❌ ZurichMike ❌ says:

          Thank you, amwick, for being a voice of reason on this thread. I just woke up here in Switzerland and looked at the thread with mouth agape — such snark and ill-informed comments. Incredibly sad.

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          • amwick says:

            I wish I could have researched better, but I failed. I though court transcripts were available pretty much everywhere.. lesson learned.

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            • ❌ ZurichMike ❌ says:

              No worries. Sometimes I search for something and find it immediately, and if I do not bookmark it and have to try to find it again, the same search terms don’t work! 😦

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        • singular says:

          Agree,

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      • Daniel says:

        “Not Guilty” because the law is ridiculous. Too bad they didn’t opt for a jury. They could have nullified the law itself.

        I wonder what FEDERAL law they were charging this couple? Sounds like the laws violated were STATE laws. And yes, they crossed state lines in doing their commerce, but simply crossing state lines isn’t a federal crime and I doubt the particulars of their commerce were illegal under federal law either.

        What STANDING do federal prosecutors have in this case?

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          • Chris Four says:

            “The Lacey Act makes it illegal to import, export, sell, receive, acquire, or purchase in interstate commerce any plant that is taken, possessed, transported, or sold in violation of state law. Under Arkansas statutes, the Arkansas State Plant Board has authority to regulate the harvesting, sale, and exportation of wild American ginseng. A valid certificate must be obtained to take ginseng out of the state of Arkansas. Missouri also regulates the harvesting, sale, importation and acquisition of wild American ginseng.”

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    • ezpz2 says:

      How is it unfair? Isn’t the AG supposed to oversee federal ‘crimes’?
      Is he not aware of the term ‘prosecutorial discretion’?

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    • churchmouse says:

      ‘I don’t know how this really involves AG Sessions’. The 2017 story is on the United States Department of Justice website:

      https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdmo/pr/theodosia-husband-wife-plead-guilty-illegally-trafficking-ginseng

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      • amwick says:

        Yes, I saw that,, but that was December of 2017, the case had to be in the works for a while before that. That was my only point.. it may have started before AG Sessions was appointed, I don’t know.

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        • churchmouse says:

          ‘ … it may have started before AG Sessions was appointed.’ Most probably.

          Still, Sessions had been AG long enough to know of the case between the time they pleaded guilty in December and yesterday’s sentencing.

          What rankles people is that this case is about ginseng rather than the Swamp. Easy pickin’s, as Jeff himself might put it.

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          • amwick says:

            What these people did was illegal. So, if it was a wild animal, would that make it more palatable?

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            • churchmouse says:

              This is really all about ordinary Americans having the federal book thrown at them for an obscure crime versus the Swamp elite guilty of sedition/treason who are swanning around the world doing book tours or giving highly paid speeches.

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              • amwick says:

                Obscure is relative… Ginseng is big business whether you are familiar with it or not. It even has its own tv series…

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                • churchmouse says:

                  Ginseng: ‘It even has its own tv series…’ That’s fine. No one mentioned that in the comments yesterday.

                  However, if ginseng were on a par with the Swamp, would our gracious host Sundance have written a post highlighting the judicial disparity between the Ginseng Couple and the Swamp?

                  And would his post have garnered so many supportive comments if that disparity were not so stark?

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    • cali says:

      @amwick: ^^^^This!

      In the meantime our Coast Guard intercepted 789 millions dollars worth of Cocaine smuggled from Central America into the US.
      That’s lots of Cocaine but thankfully it will never make into the streets to be sold and then consumed.

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  2. HickTick says:

    I have heard of a Root Doctor , Did they have the services of a Root Lawyer ????

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  3. Don’t worry. Jeff Sessions is just practicing for all those cases he plans on filing against Hillary and James Comey.

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  4. cjzak says:

    Why is ginseng even regulated? You can buy it in any health food store anywhere.

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    • keeler says:

      Read upthread.

      People are strip-harvesting ginseng and shipping it to China. Regs are there to allow the plants time to flower and seed.

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      • Mike says:

        Sounds like land owners not controlling their property e.g. “POSTED”.

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        • nimrodman says:

          KEEP OUT!
          Trespassers will be violated

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        • G. Combs says:

          “Sounds like land owners not controlling their property e.g. “POSTED”.”

          I would like to see YOU try and control access to 100 or more acres when you and Hubby have JOBS! I and my neighbors have been robbed blind. I have had two semis and a reffer stolen, a John deere tractor, two riding lawn mowers, a push mower, five saddles and bridles, fence posts and fencing, four horses killed, close to a hundred sheep and goats stolen, my neighbor had his horses stolen and a lot of equipment….

          THEY WATCH! They know your schedule and they come when you are gone or asleep. I now keep my sheep and goats in the back yard with the lights on and that STILL doesn’t keep them from stealing. HECK, I have even shot at the poachers and they STILL come back!

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      • Daniel says:

        I fail to see how that is a crime.

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        • keeler says:

          It’s a crime because there is a law against doing so.

          If you’re asking why such a law should exist, that is another issue to discuss. I again direct people upthread for a detailed explanation.

          The short version: Some individuals are going out and completely harvesting ginseng plants. Were they allowed to do so without regulatory protection, the plants would have no opportunity to reproduce. It’s the same logic behind protecting fish stocks, deer and moose herds, and managing timber stands. We protect these things to a degree so that they have a chance to reproduce and there will be more of them in future to catch, hunt, and harvest.

          I do not whether or not the current ginseng regulations are “fair” or “overprotective.” They very well might be- in many cases officials have weaponized government in the name of protecting natural resources. In those cases, maybe even this one, those regulations need to be changed. But that, again, is a different question and a different conversation.

          As far as this particular couple is concerned, they broke the law. They’re not going to prison, and as far as I am concerned the financial penalty is about equal to finances involved. Seems about right to me.

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          • ❌ ZurichMike ❌ says:

            Thank you for your sanity, which is sorely lacking on this thread given the knee-jerk posts by so many.

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          • JoAnn Leichliter says:

            The reason for the law, as one commenter has already pointed out, is to preserve the plant. China–the villain in most of these situations involving the wholesale destruction of plants and animals for “medicinal” purposes–would harvest ginseng into oblivion (with the enthusiastic cooperation of some Americans) if allowed to do so. This couple unfortunately knowingly broke a law or laws intended in the main for worse perpetrators.

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      • amwick says:

        I read that they were actually endangered….

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        • keeler says:

          I don’t put too much stock in that.

          Every bird is protected under the Migratory Bird Act, even pest-like flocks such the Canadian Geese which never migrate. Regulatory agencies are also infested with political ideologues who manipulate science to increase protection for things that do no need them. Not all policy is bad, but not all of it is good either.

          So ginseng may genuinely be endangered, or it might be by default because it is a plant. Or that status might be BS from radical environmentalists using bad science to create bad policy. In the end it doesn’t matter as far this case goes.

          Whether it is genuinely endangered or not, managing ginseng populations helps protect the species and allows it not only to continue to exist, but support a commercial industry as well.

          Win-Win.

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      • cjzak says:

        Thanks. I missed that. Makes sense now.

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    • Mark McQueen says:

      If it wasn’t you couldn’t.

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  5. Retired USMC says:

    I feel sooooooooo much safer now! I’m so proud of our goons…ah goobermint!

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    • 🍺Gunny says:

      Here is why it is regulated by our Government.

      1. It is great for your health. It has been proven to improve your health for thousands of years.

      2. It is non-addictive.

      3. It is easy to grow.

      4. It is a cash crop. It is like a farmer taking his crop to market.

      5. The Government does not want anyone making money that they cannot get a piece

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      • ezpz2 says:

        Also, Gunny, there’s more profit in illness than in good health.
        Sad but true.

        Liked by 4 people

        • Normally Quiet Observer says:

          AND Gunny … because they bought it in one state, and resold it in another, it falls under the Interstate Commerce Clause of the Feds. THAT is where they get the authority to charge them. Because of the “time frame” one of those two actions was illegal in one of the states. So the Feds CAN step in. Even though I disagree with them doing so. Probably some ‘low on the totem pole’ DOJ Junior Deputy Attorney General looking to rack up his, or her ‘total convictions’ to ‘climb the ladder” inside the DOJ AG’s Office. JMHO … but that is how things are too often done. I’d be willing to bet if they knew it would garner national attention – via the CTH, and others, it never would have been done.

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      • gerkenstein says:

        More so if it might hurt profits of their Big Pharma legislative sponsors.

        Liked by 3 people

      • JoAnn Leichliter says:

        We are not talking about ginseng you grow commercially in this instance, but rather of wild ginseng. The latter needs some protection from over-harvesting (which would include harvesting it at the wrong time of year).

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    • ❌ ZurichMike ❌ says:

      It’s a federal law. It was violated. The assistant AG for that region enforced the law.

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      • rsmith1776 says:

        This is NOT equal justice under the law.

        Two geezers hounded for change, while the great Crooks and Murderers, most of them high profile Democrats, remain untouched.

        Either law for all or law for no one.

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        • ❌ ZurichMike ❌ says:

          Yeah, a junior attorney cutting his teeth on a small case in small town is the same as the attorney general of the United States trying to simultaneously clean out an institutionally corrupt Justice Department that he also needs to sort out thousands of violations of hundreds of laws by thousands of people, tens of thousands of plea deals and courts appearances, and trying to keep a lid on it to not tip off the criminals being investigated. So sorry the AG doesn’t have you on speed dial to check in with you to be sure he’s keeping to the timetable that apparently only you know about.

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          • singular says:

            Exactly, Zurich.

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          • rsmith1776 says:

            So sorry you are so happy to fully and unthinkingly cover up for a treasonous, cowardly, dishonest, deeply disappointing piece of garbage who calls himself “Attorney General”.

            If that’s your life mission, by all means, have at it.

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            • G. Combs says:

              Oh WE WILL!

              I for one am DARN sick of all the Sessions bashing.

              What do you expect, AG Sessions to wave a Magic Wand and put Obummer, Hitlery, Soros etc in jail for life??

              GROW the F… UP!

              AG Sessions a PROSCECUTOR, not a JUDGE!
              Ag Sessions gets ONE chance and he has to deal with CORRUPT Judges — Remember the Ninth Circus anyone? And a 97% DemonRat jury. All it takes is ONE person to let them off.

              An example of a Judge’s decision of what evidence a jury may see is a Fox News story from Aug 19, 2013, Judge blocks prosecutors from using evidence sought to explain motive of Fort Hood gunman
              “…The judge overseeing the Fort Hood shooting trial of Maj. Nadal Hasan has blocked prosecutors from using several witnesses and most evidence they’d sought to explain the motive behind the 2009 attack that left 13 dead and 30 wounded…

              Osborn barred prosecutors from referencing Akbar, saying Akbar wasn’t on trial and introduction of such material would “only open the door to a mini trial.” She also said it would result in a “confusion of issues, unfair prejudice, waste of time and undo delay.”

              Osborn also told prosecutors that they couldn’t cite Hasan’s interest years ago in conscientious objector status and his past academic presentations. Osborn said such evidence was too old and irrelevant.

              She also barred Hasan’s e-mail conversations with Anwar Al-Awlaki, a now-deceased radical Muslim cleric, that he made before the attack….”

              Now think what a SJW Judge would do for saint Hussein and Queen Hitlery.

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            • Ad rem says:

              Would you prefer to cool down in “moderation”?

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            • ❌ ZurichMike ❌ says:

              Please stop tossing words around like Molotov cocktails for which you have provided no facts.

              Treason is taking up arms against the country during war, or aiding enemies in war. Cowardice is lack of courage or lack of firmness of purpose. Dishonesty is a disposition to defraud or deceive.

              Sessions has (1) not taken up arms against the US, and Sessions still has his job, which mean his boss (Trump) believes (2) he has firmness of purpose, and (3) he has not defrauded anyone.

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  6. Zippy says:

    Isn’t that the way it goes. Give some people gin and they sing. Then everyone goes to jail.

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  7. Firefly says:

    AS DEMAND FOR GINSENG SOARS, POACHERS THREATEN ITS SURVIVAL

    This is an interesting article. Here’s an excerpt:
    Federal law prohibits ginseng harvesting in national parks and forests, but some of the largest and healthiest ginseng populations can be found throughout the 271,000 acres of Great Smoky Mountains National Park and nearby Pisgah National Forest. The area is too vast and too remote to prevent rampant poaching, so 20 years ago, Corbin, together with park rangers, developed the ginseng-root marking system to allow law enforcement officials to rapidly figure out whether roots have been taken illegally. The secret is a multicolored powder that has tiny GPS chips in it, so that officials can determine where the ginseng originated—a key piece of evidence for court cases. It also glows “like a lit cigarette” under a black light, according to Corbin.

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com.au/people/as-demand-for-ginseng-soars-poachers-threaten-its-survival.aspx

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  8. allhail2 says:

    Next on the docket:

    Jimmy, a 10 year old autistic boy, is facing charges of stealing federal property. On a recent family trip to the Smoky Mountains National Park, Jimmy is accused of taking a small rock from Deep Creek and putting it in his pocket. Fortunately, a 3AM no knock raid was conducted on the family’s campsite and the rock was recovered by the FBI. Jury selection has been completed. DOJ prosecutors are asking for 2 years in juvenile boot camp. Also, Jimmy’s 12 year old sister made friends on that trip with a girl adopted from Russia. Due to a counter intelligence operation resulting from a FISA warrant, she has been referred to Special Counsel Mueller for additional charges. The family is very concerned that she will face even more charges if they can prove she took a piece of Sally’s candy out of her Trick or Treat bag 5 years ago.

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  9. ezpz2 says:

    Is this one of Sessions’ super secret sealed indictments?

    Liked by 2 people

    • amwick says:

      This has almost nothing to do with AG Sessions. It is nitpicking plain and simple.

      Liked by 2 people

      • DanO64 says:

        it’s sad overall.

        Liked by 2 people

      • sat0422 says:

        Geo W. Bush always got the criticism for carrying out NCLB legislation enacted under a Democrat congress BUT, it originated with Clinton.

        Trump has had many criticisms for laws that were passed under both Clinton and Obama concerning immigration. I do believe that the re-entry bars and family separation is due to laws on the books before Trump.

        One man’s trash usually becomes another man’s trash……LOL

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        • amwick says:

          There just were no real facts.. and I am sorry, does everyone believe that AG Sessions controls every federal case.. that is ridiculous..

          sorry mini rant over.

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    • ❌ ZurichMike ❌ says:

      Since it was publicized on December 29, 2017, it was not a “super secret sealed indictment”. If you had done minimal research before posting your snarky, ill-informed dry-by comment, you would have seen that there was no grand jury, hence no indictment. That it was publicized in late 2017 means the investigation was ongoing for most if not all of 2017 and perhaps longer (getting on a court’s docket, for example, also takes time).

      https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdmo/pr/theodosia-husband-wife-plead-guilty-illegally-trafficking-ginseng

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      • rsmith1776 says:

        Comment deleted by Admin…

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      • G. Combs says:

        NOTICE THE DATES

        “….The Schofields operated a business from their home, Schofield Roots and Herbs, which purchased and sold wild American ginseng, blood root, Echinacea, Virginia snake root, and other roots and herbs.

        …the Schofields each admitted that they illegally purchased a total of approximately 114.9 pounds of ginseng from sources in Arkansas on several occasions between June 25, 2013, and Aug. 15, 2015. They knew it was illegal to purchase ginseng that was transported out of Arkansas without the required state certification. The purchases occurred outside the permitted time frame for purchasing ginseng in Missouri. The Schofields also admitted they falsified records related to the purchases.

        For example, the Schofields purchased approximately 57.4 pounds of dried ginseng from sources in Arkansas on June 19 and Aug. 15, 2015, for a total of $22,940. Federal authorities executed a search warrant at their residence and seized 118 pounds of illegally obtained dried ginseng before the Schofields were able to sell it. Under the terms of today’s plea agreement, the Schofields must forfeit the seized ginseng to the government….”

        It looks like they were caught in 2015 probably during a sting where they were sold the 57.4 pounds of dried ginseng from sources in Arkansas on June 19 and Aug. 15, 2015

        It also looks like they had been Fences for poached plants a long time.

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  10. furrcats says:

    Nice cat photos

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  11. Anonymous says:

    Uh…

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  12. Arthur says:

    OK, now I changed my mind about Jeff “The Idiot Coward” Sessions.
    All of you Sessions fans, you were right all along. This guy actually means business.

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    • ❌ ZurichMike ❌ says:

      His job is to enforce the laws, big and small.

      And before you post your next snarky, ill-informed comment, try doing a minimum of research. This case is dated December 29, 2017: https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdmo/pr/theodosia-husband-wife-plead-guilty-illegally-trafficking-ginseng This means the case was under investigation for at least one year, probably more — in addition to getting on the court’s docket. Sessions was appointed in February 2017.

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    • sat0422 says:

      It still seems that Jeff Sessions is a weak link in the President’s cabinet. Have you ever wondered what it would be like for the President to have someone who is really in his corner? I do believe they have a love-hate relationship.

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      • ❌ ZurichMike ❌ says:

        Do you think Trump is stupid? That is the only conclusion I can draw from your post. If Sessions were not doing exactly as Trump wanted him to, he would be fired, like Rex Tillerson.

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        • rsmith1776 says:

          So if he commented on Tillerson one day before Tillerson was fired, would that have been saying Trump is stupid?

          Get some logical thinking going in that head, just repeating December 29, 2017 fifty times doesn’t make you any more convincing.

          Jeff Sessions’ reputation has died long ago, no matter for how much longer you offer mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.

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          • ❌ ZurichMike ❌ says:

            If he had offered no proof, and instead (like you) had just spewed nonsense, called him names, and posited conclusions about his reputation based only on feelings without providing facts, law, logic, or common sense, then I would have called him out on it, too.

            The fact that a relatively simple case against a married couple illegally buying and selling ginseng dating back three years (long before Sessions AG) took until December 29, 2017 to reach its conclusion for ongoing investigations, document production, analysis, negotiation for a plea deal, and getting on the court’s docket for approval should be instructive that far more complicated cases involving hundreds of violations of scores of laws and thousands of people (some in his own department) would take as long.

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  13. Mark McQueen says:

    I don’t feel sorry for these people in the least. This case isn’t Grandma digging a little root for her ailments. It involves illegal transactions worth tens of thousands of dollars. They are knowingly running a criminal enterprise for PROFIT. Glad the Feds shut it down.

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  14. Jackson says:

    Who heads the Federal government now???

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  15. New Nonna Again!!! says:

    Are they kidding!?

    But peeing in the streets of nyc is an ‘ignorable’ (k, yes, I JUST made up the word) act?

    Lock those old people up! /s Geez…

    Lord, our country is crazy. Help us help ourselves, PLEASE! 🙏🏼🙏🏼

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    • ❌ ZurichMike ❌ says:

      If there were a federal law against peeing in the street, we could compare the prosecution of illegal ginseng profiteers and the lack of prosecution of those peeing in the street. But since there isn’t such a law, your concern is noted but inapt.

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  16. scott467 says:

    “Prosecutors say the couple bought the ginseng outside the permitted time frame for purchasing ginseng in Missouri, and they knew it was illegal transport ginseng out of Arkansas without a state certification.”

    ___________________

    The Ginseng Police are extremely serious.

    We should put them in charge of real investigations into Clinton and Hussein and Clinton and Hussein and Clinton and Clinton and Hussein and Clinton and Hussein and Clinton and Hussein and Hussein.

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    • ❌ ZurichMike ❌ says:

      They also falsified records. And since this crossed state lines, it is indeed a federal case.

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      • Incisor says:

        Agree 100% Mike but he’s not wrong. Whoever was in charge of prosecuting these ancient criminals should be the AG. We might see some results instead of wondering which side Sessions is really on? I seriously want him to be on our side but I am also starting to believe he is batting for the Dems on this one.

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  17. Jeff P. says:

    I do not feel safer because of some LEO hero catching ‘Bad Guys’ in this story. In fact I feel ashamed of Law Enforcement that a Law like this is even allowed to exist. How sad that these old people that are/were probably helping tons of folks and of course ‘Crooked Uncle Scam’ has to arrest and convict them of some bogus “Time Frame” laws. Cheesy garbage.

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    • ❌ ZurichMike ❌ says:

      Feel free to petition the Congress to change the law.

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    • keeler says:

      They were not just helping people.

      They stole or illegally obtained someone else’s property- property may have belonged to the United States of America, the State of Arkansas, or a resident of Arkansas. They falsified documents to cover this crime up, demonstrating intent. After selling that property for twice what they paid to buy it, they continued to illegally obtain more. They engaged in this behavior for at least two years and likely much longer.

      The illegal property they were known to possess had a market value of about $100,000.

      Had they sold a “hot” car worth $100,000 and forged a fake title, would that be “cheesy garbage?” I think not. I think that would be “Grand Theft Auto” and I think they would be receiving more than a year of probation and a fine.

      This was not Grandpa and Grandma getting caught up in red tape. They knew what they were doing and continued to do it, and made a significant amount of money along the way.

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    • sat0422 says:

      There are a lot of grandma’s protecting their drug dealing grandchildren and some of the older folks deal too. If they broke the laws regarding ginseng and were selling to China (as has been suggested), they aren’t anything but law breakers.
      I have serious concerns about people who get soft on issues that involve age, sex, and political beliefs.

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  18. Sedanka says:

    Jeff Sessions says “a job well done” and goes back to sleep.

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    • ❌ ZurichMike ❌ says:

      Note the date of this story: December 29, 2017, which means investigation and plea occurred in early 2017 or perhaps even before then. Sessions was appointed February 9, 2017. His job is to enforce the laws, big and small

      https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdmo/pr/theodosia-husband-wife-plead-guilty-illegally-trafficking-ginseng

      So sorry you think Sessions is sleeping. Apparently you have no idea how long it takes to investigate, call grand juries, get plea deals to go after bigger fish, and keep everything quiet/sealed so as not to tip off other criminals under investigation.

      So sorry you have not really been paying attention to the many posts here and elsewhere defining and showing this strategy.

      So sorry that Jeff Sessions is not working to a timeline acceptable to you.

      But why let that stop your one-line nonsense post?

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      • Tiana says:

        Thank you for diligently countering nonsense… I am with you… these crimes obviously occurred 2013 to 2015, and were investigated before AG Sessions came on… also, our AG probably cannot know or get involved in every lowly case… has his hands full with bigger stuff (immigration, MS13, drug trafficking, possibly election fraud/tampering)…

        Also, POTUS wants us to be a country that follows its laws… and these people did not just accidentally break the law… they knew what they were doing… there are risks, like being caught… and then there are consequences… no matter how old or young you are…

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      • Sedanka says:

        “TRUST MAGOO”

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  19. yonason says:

    Ginseng is a protected plant.
    https://www.fws.gov/international/plants/american-ginseng.html

    Follow the laws or risk arrest and prosecution, you know, like crossing the border illegally.

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  20. wolfrom1 says:

    For all of those who accuse liberals because they are uninformed and live in a isolated bubble.
    Look in the mirror. Conservation of our fauna and flora is important to man so that we can use those
    resources in a sustainable level, that should last forever. It’s called good husbandry and has been around since man came down from the trees and started changing the land for their own use.

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  21. skeinster says:

    Haven’t read all the comments, but saw “ginseng” in the story, and imagined right off that poaching was involved. Calm down, everybody. Wolf makes an excellent point.

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  22. G. Combs says:

    Thank you TarsTarkas for the information:

    If you have not read his info on the digging of green Ginseng and why it is illegal read it >>> HERE.

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  23. G. Combs says:

    I see this as very similar to the Mike Brown — Hands up don’t shoot — except this time it is an old couple, something to wring sympathy from Deplorables. The aim is to cause people to lose confidence in their government.

    NOTICE: Copyright 2018 The Associated Press
    AND it is on FOX
    https://fox4kc.com/2018/08/07/missouri-couple-sentenced-for-illegal-ginseng-operation/

    And U.S. News & World Report
    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/arkansas/articles/2018-08-07/missouri-couple-sentenced-for-illegal-ginseng-operation?int=undefined-rec

    “…Russell described how he saw the communist tradecraft”

    The way they worked their way to the seizure of power was as follows: Talk about peace, talk about social equality, especially among those most oppressed.Talk about organization of labor, and penetrate into every labor union. Talk on soapboxes. Publish pamphlets and papers. Orate and harangue. Play on envy. Arouse jealousy. Separate class from class. Try to break down the democratic processes from within. Accustom the people to picketing, strikes, mass meetings. Constantly attack the leaders in every way possible so that the people will lose confidence. Then in time of national peril, during a war, on the occasion of a great disaster, or of a general strike, walk into the capital and seize the power. A well-organized minority can work wonders.

    Willing Accomplices: How KGB Covert Influence Agents Created Political Correctness and Destroyed America by Kent Clizbe

    Isn’t that what we are now seeing? An attack on our not so good ‘justice system’ ESPECIALLY AG Sessions? Haven’t we been treated to constant attacks on AG Sessions for over a year?

    Sort of makes you go HMMMmmmmmm.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      I think Sundance’s point is that the FBI-Justice Department is attacking a hundred pounds native ginsing “plants” while ignoring FBI “plants” in the election campaign of a presidential candidate the illegally FBI opposes, based on “planted” evidence to illegally obtain a FISA warrant to spy on EVERYONE in the Trump campaign by the 2-hop rule.
      There are tons and tons of dangerous narcotics crossing the US border protected by bribes to politicians, while the FBI focuses on the Missouri-Arkansas border using a federal law which stretches the Commerce Clause beyond any scope intended by the Constitution’s founders. There is unexplored evidence of classified material illegally on the Abedin-Weiner laptop (as well as other crimes in Weiner’s “Insurance file”, but the FBI and DOJ are spending resources to protect “wild” ginsing plants, that Missouri and Arkansas apparently have not prosecuted themselves. The Awan group had access to and took all the classified files of the US Senate, which reportedly went to Pakistan, and the New York Times bribed illegal release highly classified secret materials with sex, yet the FBI-DOJ spends its resources keeping Missourians safe from wild ginsing instead of prosecuting the Awans and the New York Times. What is next for our intrepid G-Men (G-Persons?), protecting us against wild morrel harvesting, or dandelion salads?

      The FBI-DOJ know Hillary got more than 100 million dollars in pay-to-play favors in Uranium One, yet throws the book at a few puonds of ginsing “imports” from Arkansas, while shutting down the local Arkansas FBI investigation of the Clinton Family (crime?) foundation. In fact, the FBI-DOJ ordered the local FBI and DOJ to “STOP INVESTIGATING THE CLINTON’S PAY-TO-PLAY FOUNDATION”, and put its resources into this stopping a few pounds of interstate transport of illegal “wild” ginsing into Missouri which is more threatening to our democracy.

      Maybe this is Sundance’s point?

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  24. Mary Ann says:

    They are trying to stamp out natural healing.. Big pharma stands to loose money if people catch on.. In Vt you need a license to pick Ginseng and have to follow regs..
    Since we are on the subject what about all the scientists and homeopathic doctors who have died or are missing ?.. about 80 to date..

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    • G. Combs says:

      The buyers are CHINA most likely.

      “China is the villain in most of these situations involving the wholesale destruction of plants and animals for “medicinal” purposes and would harvest ginseng into “oblivion” which they have ALREADY DONE in their homeland… Now they are doing so here in the USA

      China’s Gold Rush in the Hills of Appalachia
      “…Buyers in Hong Kong and Beijing are paying top dollar for wild American ginseng, fueling a digging frenzy that could decimate the revered root for good….”

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  25. Fools Gold says:

    Come on guys, some of you completely over looked the cat eyes…

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  26. Someone’s been drinking too much ginseng tea.

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