Blast Thread on OIG Report Briefings and Releases – Chaff and Countermeasures….

The Potomac Two-Step

Statement from Trey Gowdy. [SEE HERE] Given the nature and construct of the statement it was obviously written before today and timed for a release at a specific time of day today. Reeks of familiar UniParty swamp defense. Chaff and Countermeasures.

WASHINGTON, DC – House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy released the following statement after the Department of Justice’s (DOJ) Office of Inspector General (OIG) released a report on FBI and DOJ actions in advance of the 2016 election.

“I am alarmed, angered, and deeply disappointed by the Inspector General’s finding of numerous failures by DOJ and FBI in investigating potential Espionage Act violations by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. (read more)

Report from Bloomberg News. [SEE HERE] Includes notes and reports of Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages that were INTENTIONALLY WITHHELD from prior text message releases.   Including: on Aug. 8, 2016:

  • Lisa Page: “(Trump’s) not ever going to become president, right? Right?!”
  • Peter Strzok: “No. No he’s not. We’ll stop it.”

That reply from Strzok was never included in the release from the FBI.  The OIG recovered the text using their independent forensics.  The FBI intentionally hid the Strzok reply.  The OIG only discovered it four days ago according to Daily Caller [SEE HERE].

(See Page #334)

 

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420 Responses to Blast Thread on OIG Report Briefings and Releases – Chaff and Countermeasures….

  1. Katherine McCoun says:

    I am stuck on the very first page, page i. Says the investigation was to determine “whether Clinton INTENDED (my emphasis) to transmit classified information on unclassified systems…” — again with the “intent”. Does the intent actually matter in this crime? Why does intent and determining intent matter? It either was a crime or not and the intent issue can come up at the trial as a way to lessen the sentencing!

    Was that the legal, stated purpose of the original investigation?

    Liked by 13 people

    • JoAnn Leichliter says:

      No. Intent is left out of the governing statute–intentionally.

      Liked by 5 people

      • Striker Dad says:

        Did General Flynn or Papadopoulis get the beneftt of their intent? Is Mueller giving Trump the benefit of intent as he raids all of Trump’s associates in the dark of night? Only a deep stater benefits from the notion of intent.

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    • BurmaShave2 says:

      Who the H is supposed to believe that Hilary did not intend to set up her email server in her bathroom?!? Wtf!?! Did she mean to for it to be in her pool room? Did she get one morning to relieve herself and .. low and behold, there is a email server in her bathroom! Lordy, how did that ever get there?

      OF COURSE, IT WAS INTENTIONAL! WHOLLY INTENTIONAL AND NOTHING BUT INTENTIONAL!!!!! This BS that “it was not intentional” MUST STOP..

      Liked by 4 people

    • Hawkward says:

      I would say yes, she did intend to transmit classified classified information on unclassified systems, considering that she did it over and over and over again, and asked others to do it as well, and that she instructed that said unclassified system be set up in the first place.

      Liked by 3 people

    • 🍺Gunny66 says:

      “Sorry officer. I never intended to shoot my wife six times.”

      “I ran out of bullets “

      Same….Same

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  2. bosscook says:

    Oh, to be a fly on the wall in the Oval Office right now…..regardless of how today ends up, Trump has a plan. He always HAD a plan.

    Liked by 16 people

    • Steve says:

      Bingo! I the IG report may be the real deal, but even if it’s not, DJT has a plan. He’s giving the guys a chance to do it, but if they fail, he’ll step in. No way this gets past him. If it does, it doesn’t matter what else he does, he will have the reputation as a choker. Can anyone visualize that? Me neither. Drain that swamp!

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  3. fred5678 says:

    Report Page 260 onwards …

    ANASLYSIS

    no problems with Clinton emails, according tom my non-lawyer reading

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  4. IG recommendations amount to “we recommend that DoJ/FBI continue with their intensive coverup and deflection strategy, of which this report should be used as a guide.”

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  5. Nigella says:

    So Horowitz… Black hat?

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  6. ForGodandCountry says:

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  7. I was there with ya…

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  8. CM-TX says:

    The Page/Strzok “affair” was the BS excuse given to justify omitting certain texts. The damaging texts were then said to be “personal”.

    Meanwhile the “affair” was also the excuse given for removing one or both from the Mueller SC. Likely because their extreme bias & agenda- taints the entire Mueller Investigation from the beginning.

    Liked by 5 people

    • JX says:

      Has there ever been any proof of an affair? Or is it a cover story.

      Liked by 2 people

      • carterzest says:

        like a blue dress with a couple lil stains on it?

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      • blondegator says:

        This, totally.

        I’ve NEVER believed there was an affair. Seriously….Trump supposedly had one “encounter” with the porn star, and there have been forests killed describing the details. But is there ANY evidence supporting the theory of Strzok/Page being lovers? One measly hotel receipt, or them in the background of a selfie whispering sweet nothings to each other in a restaurant?

        Sorry, that “secret lover” dog won’t hunt.

        Liked by 4 people

      • FanGirl says:

        I never saw texts between them that at all appeared to support an affair.

        Liked by 1 person

      • Patriot1783 says:

        No proof, and any “conservative” talking head who continues to push that theme and prolong the muddying of the waters is just as bad as those FBI agents.
        Hannity
        Ingraham
        Baier
        Kilmeade

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    • NC PATRIOT says:

      But Strzok– the clearly biased one—was ALSO involved in the start up of the Russian hoax investigation. So the whole investigation is bogus and bias. It is tainted.

      Liked by 1 person

  9. D says:

    18 months and 500 pages to say they think strozk was bias and Comey didn’t follow procedure. Sounds like a cover up if you ask me. We knew strozk was bias and Comey didn’t follow procedure 2 years ago.

    Liked by 13 people

  10. Nom de Blog says:

    Watching MSNBC is like watching monkeys at the zoo try to make sense of sophisticated machinery. They recognize it is important but they simply cannot understand what is happening. They are debilitated.

    Liked by 5 people

  11. rmnewt says:

    FBI needs to be turned into an INTERPOL (intel sharing only) w/ no prosecutorial powers. This type of abuse can never happen again. There must be consequences.

    Liked by 2 people

  12. Nigella says:

    So the President should now order all FBI/DOJ files to be delivered to Congress.. Immediately

    Liked by 4 people

  13. lewfarge48 says:

    The fact that this email was “removed” from the previous submissions PROVES that there was a CONSPIRACY to obstruct the investigation !
    Let the ARRESTS AND PROSECUTIONS BEGIN !

    Liked by 5 people

  14. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  15. TheWanderingStar says:

    Here we go, 568 pages.

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  16. Hmmm, bottom line: put a warning label on FBI phones and devices so agents and management are extra careful in not revealing a politicized enforcement agency.

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  17. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  18. ForGodandCountry says:

    Folks, the redactions of the past were necessary.

    Reminder from Sundance (paraphrased):

    “Given the HIGHLY complex and multi-layered information surrounding the corruption, it is very important that the granular details of the “Big Ugly” be released slowly so that the public may ingest it all in bits and pieces. To dump it all in one sitting would be overwhelming and, as such, give the advantage to the corrupt “small group” inside the DOJ and FBI.”

    Piont is: if everyone in the USA read CTH, then yes….they could release all the info in one sitting. Sadly, not very many people read CTH (although that is changing rapidly).

    YOU AND I know the granular details and can handle all the info….thanks to Sundance. The public at large??

    Not so much.

    Liked by 3 people

    • Sherri Young says:

      If the information dribbles too slowly, it becomes “old news” and is discounted.

      Liked by 4 people

      • Apollo says:

        Exactly.

        This “we’ll stop him” text needed to be front and center at the very beginning, stoking outrage. Now it’s just “Oh, Strzok and Page texts? Old news, no biggie, just lovers venting.”

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  19. James F says:

    The Stork text itself, and the fact that it was intentionally hidden until now, is a big juicy double wagyu beef burger.

    Go peddle your defeatist talking points somewhere else.

    Liked by 1 person

  20. WeThePeople2016 says:

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    • JX says:

      It’s the mere appearance of bias not actual bias. Like writing that you won’t let Trump be elected,it’s just the appearance of bias, not actual bias. /s

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  21. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  22. eric says:

    and this is why I voted for TRUMP…and will do so again.
    BUT.
    this is also why I will NEVER vote for an incumbent in house or senate.
    all talk and wagging fingers…but continue to DO NOTHING.

    HEAVEN help us when Trump finishes his 2nd term…he’s the only one there who does what he says he will and actually gives a damn.

    same ole same ole from D.C.
    let the guilty go free…oppress and punish the innocent.
    DISGUSTING.

    Liked by 6 people

    • Raven says:

      “…oppress and punish the innocent.”

      Which is exactly what the media and socialists have been doing to President Trump every day since he announced his bid for the Presidency.

      God bless and protect President Trump, his family and his cabinet.

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  23. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  24. L4grasshopper says:

    Whitewash. The IG bought the explanation that “intent” was required to bring criminal charges for Hillary allowing her server to fill up with classified info. Bought the excuse that lack of classification labels made it too hard for senior govt officials to notice when something was classified.

    This nation is doomed.

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    • Roberto says:

      This isn’t an indictment or legal document. It’s more like an auditors report. It provides a ton of unknown information for potential prosecution. This is not the OIG’s job. And he is clearly not interested in creating constitutional crises, so he basically punts.

      Before you give up on America, let’s let a grand jury decide on the definition of intent.

      None of this is going away. It’s only going to get more intense.

      Liked by 3 people

    • JX says:

      That server in the cellar, yeah it just appeared. And all my email on that server, it just appeared there too. No, I had no intent. It’s just something that happened to me.

      Anyone that buys Clinton’s claim of no intent is an idiot. It was a day or two after her signing the NDA that she began working to circumvent government systems.

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  25. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  26. pbunyan says:

    At what point are we going to realize that it’s time for the torches and pitchforks? Washington is too corrupt to ever fix itself.

    Liked by 2 people

  27. PatriotGalNC says:

    “…Lisa Page: “[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!”

    Peter Strzok: “No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it.”

    Operative phrase: WE’LL stop it.

    WE WILL STOP IT.

    Who all are the “We”???????

    Liked by 6 people

  28. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  29. Bull Durham says:

    This report shows the OIG doing its job. It was not in search of Justice or the Truth. It was looking into actions of FBI/DOJ. It found some stuff.

    The real thing is what the Prosecutor is going to do and how much stench is left clinging to the DOJ and FBI. Sessions then will have to clean the stench off. That might mean some firings. As for the prosecutions because of improper, insubordinate behavior–what laws did these scumbags break?

    Just because we hate them and they are no damn good, what laws did they break.

    They really broke with their oath of office. They broke with the public.

    They should lose their jobs.

    But then so should every Congressperson and Senator and most of the Deep State permanent staffs of most of the departments.

    DC is thoroughly, completely corrupt.

    Liked by 5 people

  30. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  31. w barna says:

    All we ever get are reports. When somebody of significance goes to jail, I’ll start believing that justice can prevail.

    Liked by 3 people

    • blondegator says:

      We should take a collection and hire a plane with a banner to fly over DC for the next month…..with your statement on the banner.

      “WHEN SOMEBODY OF SIGNIFICANCE GOES TO JAIL, WE’LL START BELIEVING JUSTICE CAN PREVAIL”

      (I changed your “I” to “we”).
      :

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  32. A review in 2017 of the investigation concludes it should have been conducted as a criminal investigation, not a counterintelligence / espionage investigation (p144)

    INSD assessed the FBI Midyear Exam investigation successfully determined classified information was improperly stored and transmitted on Clinton’s email server, and classified information was compromised by unauthorized individuals, to include foreign government’s or intelligence services, via cyber intrusion or other means [referring to compromises of email accounts associated with certain individuals who communicated with Clinton’s server, such as Blumenthal]. However, the structure of the investigation and prosecution team, as prescribed in the CD PG, and treatment of the investigation as a traditional espionage matter rather than a criminal investigation significantly hindered the ability of the investigative team to obtain full, accurate and timely information.

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  33. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  34. ForGodandCountry says:

    Dear IG Horowitz,

    “Intent” has no basis nor role in violations of USC 18 and the mishandling of classified gov’t documents.

    Reread that.

    Sincerely,

    America

    Liked by 7 people

  35. RyderLee says:

    I’m no way as Smart as all of the commenters here , that said , What keeps running through my mind is Why haven’t External Professional Investigators ( as in from We The People ) been brought in to Properly Investigate this mess , when it is Obvious these so-called government investigators are only concerned with covering their own arses ? Honest Question . Frightening what is happening here !

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    • The Great Kazoo says:

      Yep. The swamprats have gone renegade on us.
      Maybe the only way to sort this out is to march over there and prosecute them ourselves. (?)

      Common law grand juries.
      Here’s how they work:

      https://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/grandjuryrules.htm

      It’s better than civil war.
      Worth a try anyway….

      Liked by 1 person

    • RyderLee says:

      Just wanted to add that I Fully Trust OUR President Trump
      to Handle This Matter ! He’s Got This , of that I have No Doubt !
      MAGA KAG !

      Liked by 1 person

    • Roberto says:

      I don’t share that opinion. The OIG–either by default or design–has just released 500 pages of hitherto unknown “granular” facts that will only animate, not bury, more law-enforcement investigation. Would it have been nice if OIG recommends prosecution? Sure. But that’s not really his job. It’s all on DOJ and Huber and Sessions now. But mostly it’s all on VSG. He can do what he pleases.

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      • Alligator Gar says:

        No, the President cannot “do as he pleases.” He’s not a d*mned dictator! We the People will put him in his place if he tries that cr*p. WE are the government. WE are assuming OUR rightful place again. Those who have arrogated unto themselves authority that they do not deserve and have not earned had better vacate the area. Our President is our elected voice, but he is just that. If he fails to do our will, we will kick him to the curb and move on, an irresistible force at this point, moving toward a goal that we will reach or die trying to achieve. That goal is our and our children’s liberty. OUR LIBERTY. My God, what a thought. It brings a tear to my jaded old eyes.

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  36. Cuppa Covfefe says:

    Someone should remake some of the old “John and Martha” commercials, but with “Pete and Lisa” as the protagonists, and Deep State Gate as the subject/product…

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  37. All Hype says:

    Like I previously stated, the DOJ is corrupt and needs to be gutted from top to bottom. Sessions, Rosenstein, OIG and Huber are is part of the corruption. There is no way forward with these men in charge.

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    • Roberto says:

      We need a new USAG who will just lay waste to the entire rat hole. Like a Giuliani or DiGenova.

      Liked by 1 person

    • NC PATRIOT says:

      WRONG—–Sessions, Wray are the “new guys” and POTUS will charge them with cleaning house (in process) and returning both FBI and DOJ to the rule of law. Huber will
      prosecute any illegalities. Huber has a team of prosecutors.

      Let it play out.

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  38. CopperTop says:

    The original sin is that HRC had a PRIVATE SERVER!!!!!!! Let’s not lose track here with folks who want to say poor Hillary and her treatment by Comey.

    Liked by 3 people

  39. The Great Kazoo says:

    The fix is still in.

    The swamp has no intention of holding itself accountable.

    The “long train of abuses and usurpations” continues.

    “Duty” and whatnot…

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    • Roberto says:

      I think you need to understand that just because something is not cited by the OIG, that it is not criminal. This isn’t even the beginning of the beginning.

      Liked by 1 person

  40. craybox2882 says:

    Page Vi of IG report
    “We further found that the statute that required the
    most complex analysis by the prosecutors was Section
    793(f)(1), the “gross negligence” provision that has
    been the focus of much of the criticism of the
    declination decision. As we describe in Chapters Two
    and Seven of our report, the prosecutors analyzed the
    legislative history of Section 793(f)(1), relevant case
    law, and the Department’s prior interpretation of the
    statute. They concluded that Section 793(f)(1) likely
    required a state of mind that was “so gross as to almost
    suggest deliberate intention,” criminally reckless, or
    “something that falls just short of being willful,” as well
    as evidence that the individuals who sent emails
    containing classified information “knowingly” included or
    transferred such information onto unclassified systems.
    The Midyear team concluded that such proof was
    lacking. We found that this interpretation of Section
    793(f)(1) was consistent with the Department’s
    historical approach in prior cases under different
    leadership, including in the 2008 decision not to”

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    • AmericaFirst says:

      It defies belief that the SOS put a private server in her basement, unknown to most in government EVEN AFTER she was being questioned by Congress, installed by a private company, used a fake name, and we are still pretending she had no INTENT?

      “What, like with a cloth?”

      Liked by 4 people

    • JoAnn Leichliter says:

      So Hillary Clinton was too stupid to be Secretary of State, but smart enough to be President. Go figure.

      Liked by 5 people

    • Roberto says:

      This does NOT mean a crime has not been committed.

      BTW: Anytime they get off at the “Legislative History” exit, it pretty much means it’s not worth the paper it’s printed on. It basically admits that nobody really knows.

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    • JX says:

      Cut the crap Horowitz. She deliberately intended to use a private server for official business. It was a deliberate affirmative act. It didn’t occur by chance.

      Liked by 2 people

  41. fanbeav says:

    Since the newly released text messages from Peter Strzok mentioning “we will stop Trump” and the fact that he was on Mueller’s team make a difference? I know Mueller removed him, but it was not until these messages were found that Mueller released him!

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  42. SPANGLER says:

    F-off Gowdy, its obvious deep state is black mailing you for something and you cannot be trusted.

    Liked by 1 person

  43. Raven says:

    I am alarmed, angered, and disgusted by Trader Gowdy’s support and backing of lawless criminals within the DOJ and FBI while they were “supposedly” investigating actual Espionage Act violations by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    Trader Gowdy is an enemy of the United States of America and her people.

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    • Raven says:

      I apologize to Trey Gowdy for my former words and ask for his, and your, forgiveness.

      I jumped to conclusions upon reading the first sentence — something I dislike when others do — and am ashamed of myself for doing so.

      The entirety of Trey’s message says something altogether different, and something I hope he has the fortitude to push forward until real action is taken against all the criminals involved.

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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        Gee….I thought you were just “pulling a Gowdy” by changing your mind
        As in….
        My fellow citizens should be proud of the FBI
        My fellow citizens should be ashamed of the FBI.

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  44. starfcker says:

    Looking more and more like the only way to clean this up is for president Trump to fire Attorney General Rosenstein and his sidekick Jeff Sessions

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  45. CopperTop says:

    Don’t lose track. The actions of the FBI destroyed evidence, remove the obama administration from responsibility via their insubordination so as to preclude the US from ever indicting Hillary for her illegal actions. They never intended to hide that she was being investigated and thought it would HELP her once she won.

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  46. Walter Thomas says:

    The new email exchange between Page and Strzok shows that someone who was working at the FBI chose not to reveal this crucial exchange to investigators. At least one person in the FBI is now known to be guilty of a cover-up. This is huge. And it brought forth Gowdy’s judgement on the FBI. Gowdy’s words are quoted in full by McCarthy at NRO and displayed without comment.

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  47. Stab, the unstoppable hero says:

    A few threads ago I was putting forward a theory where President Trump was being forced to make a bargain with the Deep State and their thousands of minions. He will be allowed to help this country – up to a point. If he crosses the (negotiated) line there may be an open revolt against his authority as Commander in Chief by the institutions of Government. This includes a majority of the Republican party subservient to Ryan & McConnoll.
    Sitting here looking at this IG report. reading the hidden texts. I really believe this is what’s happening. The House, Senate, DOJ, FBI, State Department, IRS, Treasury. All corrupt. I’m actually surprised that President Trump has not been assassinated. He does have the Military tho. That could explain it.
    I’m also sure that the President knows a hell of a lot more than I do.
    So I could be very wrong.
    I hope I am mistaken & living in some paranoid fantasy nightmare but I absolutely trust President Trump to do the best thing thing for our country and whatever he has to do I will support him with my vote and my wallet.

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    • NC PATRIOT says:

      I believe attempts at his life have already been thwarted, Don’t believe POTUS would bargain with deep state. He aims to destroy it.
      He counts on his base to be vocal, in support of him. He counts on Military Intelligence (and GOD) to protect him. Much more to play out here.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Stab, the unstoppable hero says:

        Not bargaining by choice. Trump Foundation sued today by state of New York. This involves the Presidents immediate family in (perhaps) legal jeopardy. This is a not so subtle reminder of the Deep States power to perhaps grind the economy, among other things, to a complete halt. If the deep state enforcers are criminally charged.

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    • CountryDoc says:

      I think there needs to be an organized preparation for a Battle of Athens on a national scale. If we can find those committed and capable of effecting justice to these swamp creatures under the law, and the citizens of these people, armed an ready (hundreds of thousands of us) are prepared to back them, and enforce finding the truth and proper punishment of those who committed crimes then we can put a stop to this.


      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)

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  48. “Comey told the OIG that he understood Section 793(f)(1) to require “something closer to actual knowledge.” Yet nowhere in his statement did Comey say that the FBI concluded that former Secretary Clinton lacked knowledge that the information in question was classified, and that prosecutors determined that evidence of such knowledge was needed to bring charges under the “gross negligence” statute.”

    I find this utterly bizarre. If you conclude that someone who did something disastrous didn’t know what they were doing, then they are innocent of gross negligence? I’m a doctor – I’d love to try that line if I get sued!!

    Clinton’s disastrous alleged ignorance-but-not-negligence led to foreign agents accessing top secret and SAP information including that which likely got an Iranian scientist-informant killed. But we all know the hag had intent, based on her day 1 orientation at the State Department and the convoluted path she had to take to get her communications off .gov.

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  49. Chilidog says:

    Good grief Charlie Brown. Don’t worry, the next report will be the one that takes them down.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “the next report will be the one that takes them down.”

      And if that one doesn’t, it will be the report after that.

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