Tucker Carlson and Dan Bongino Debate The Word “Spy”…

What exactly does the word “spy” mean?  That is the current mystery being debated amid the apex intellectual circles in Washington DC.

Does “spying” really mean the process of excavating boulders using spoons made of eggshells?  Or is there something even more complex in the modern terminology?  FOX news host Tucker Carlson and Dan Bongino debate the answer.

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331 Responses to Tucker Carlson and Dan Bongino Debate The Word “Spy”…

  1. WSB says:

    RUSSIANS!

    The Brits are informants.

    Liked by 15 people

    • Mr. Grabby says:

      Call the surveillance on various members of the Trump campaign whatever you want. What I’m interested in knowing is when exactly did it start, who requested it, who knew about it, who authorized it, and how far did it reach. We have a right to know as Citizens whether or not the police Powers at the federal level are working in our behalf, or if they’re working in behalf of entrenched, unelected, powerful special interest that are seeking to undermine a duly elected president.

      Liked by 37 people

      • WSB says:

        I am watching Jesse Watters on for Laura Ingraham tonight just now, and Binney is on with a panel.

        He just stated that if they were spying on all of these people, they could easily go back to 2001….

        !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Liked by 23 people

        • missilemom says:

          Trump needs to get Binney back on board to help take down the rats. He knows where all the bodies are buried in the database.

          Liked by 11 people

        • Bogeyfree says:

          I would love to see a go fund me page where all funds go towards a team on data hunters who do nothing but go back to 2008 and track down every email, text, phone call, etc from the WH to the FBI/DOJ/CIA looking specifically for spying direction & instructions.

          My guess is Binney could find this data in half the time as anyone else. Might Trump consider hiring him back for a special assignment?

          Liked by 10 people

        • nimrodman says:

          Also on Ingraham about 20 minutes in, she’s got Caputo again and the ever-inappropriately-grinning Carter Page.

          He’s really an oddball. She questions him about his interactions with “the informant” (wink, wink, say no more – but it’s Halper), and they get on the timeframe where both Page and Halper were at some conference …

          … and Page characterizes it as “we spent several days together”.

          What an odd way to characterize being at a conference and speaking to someone else, what? Maybe a couple or a few times?

          Jeez – “we spent several days together” … Really? Did you get a room?

          I tell ya, Page is an odd, odd, oddball.

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          • WSB says:

            And Nim, Page has done this before and chimed in the same way…eyes and smirking.

            Page is now on the next show ( Jesse Watters on Ingraham) doing the same thing with the eyes and smirk.

            I do not buy any of the Page Papadopoulos victimizing routine. I am not even sure Papadopoulos is Greek…he may have an Arab mother…who knows! Will do some digging.

            Too many people, Bill Clinotn, Page, Papadopoulos, and others sem to go to school in Londonistan

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            • nimrodman says:

              ” Page has done this before and chimed in the same way…eyes and smirking.

              Yeah, I saw him say it the day before too. Same phrase.
              “We spent several days together”

              That’s just a really, really odd thing to say.
              Not “We attended the same conference”
              Not “We spoke a few times at a conference”

              But “we spent several days together”, as if they held hands the whole time.

              Does he think he’s making some kind of clever joke?
              Does he think he’s belittling those who want to know what transpired between him and Halper.

              And the grinning?

              We need Joe Pesci to get him in a room and go all Goodfellas on him:
              “You find this amusing? I amuse you? You think I’m here to amuse you?”

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          • Daniel Mark Camac says:

            Nim, Agreed. I guess when you are bounced around so much you really forget who you are working for so Hey, lets just laugh about the whole shitstorm and whatever side wins, I’m good with? Me thinks he’s done some windowpane in his lifetime. MAGA!

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          • NJ Transplant says:

            Carter Page may be the “confidential informant ” they keep talking about. He did work for the FBI as late as the fall of 2015. When Brennan supposedly heard that Carter Page was volunteering for the Trump campaign, it shouldn’t have raised any red flags. Carter Page helped the FBI to convict a real Russian spy.

            I saw Tucker tonight. Dan Bongino was absolutely right. A confidential informant is in the campaign and gives information about suspicious activity. If all they had was a confidential informant, there would be no case. They still have nothing on Russian collusion and the Trump campaign.

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          • Coldeadhands says:

            Reptilian 🦎

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          • fleporeblog says:

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          • covfefe999 says:

            I’m bothered that Page said he did not remember when/how he met Halper, if he approached Halper or Halper approached him. Page is not a stupid man, he did not forget how that all played out. He just doesn’t want to say it for some reason. And then he also said he didn’t want to criticize Halper because Halper seemed like such a nice guy.

            You know, if Page has been advised to keep quiet about Halper then he should just keep quiet. Because these bogus comments by him (including “we spent several days together”) just makes him look dishonest.

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        • Dixie says:

          I posted this on the presidential thread but I think it applies here too. It is a video done in 2013 interviewing one of the first whistleblowers and is very informative about when this all started.

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        • Someone, somewhere… could provide anyone that requested it every post you or I have made on the internet. Going back further than 2001 too.

          We know that everything ever posted, and the keystrokes made doing it, are data mined and stored. That’s why everything krooked killery et al used the internet for are and will still be available, and easier than “they” are trying to portray it all.

          The world of globalist political puppetry and their burrowcrat minions are desperately trying to alter a narrative that is simply beyond alteration to even slow witted fake libs!

          Ain’t. Gonna. Work! They are all being TRUMPED. 😉

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      • Carrie2 says:

        WSB, they all think they are our boss instead of realizing they are OUR EMPLOYEES and time has come to see them walk to the gallows.

        Liked by 4 people

      • wheatietoo says:

        Mr. Grabby…I think that Ozero started spying on DJT years ago, after the Birth Certificate episode.

        Liked by 29 people

      • Conversefive says:

        I also want to know what intelligence was actually gleaned from these “human sources” or w/e the nomenclature. Clapper today says they were gleaming intel on what the Russians were doing from spying on the Trump camp. So what is this intel? And how was the election affected by Russians based on tgeir supposed intel from spying on trump? And why didn’t they stop this supposed Russian interference using their human sources? Such a bunch of crap.

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    • helix35 says:

      LG: “As reliable a barometer of mindless conventional wisdom as exists on planet earth.” Priceless.

      Liked by 6 people

    • The Brits have always had someone in the White House that worked with them in the destruction of both nations for their “precious globalism” GARBAGE.

      Damn right they are now informants. It’s Trump vs the “world” of globalist totalitarian feudalists.

      And, Britain is DEAD. They’ve brought the destruction in by the tens of thousands, straight from the favorite place of Juan Diablo McCanary.

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      • WSB says:

        It’s too bad. i have always loved Britain…now, it’s dead to me. No national honor, no respect for her citizens, after all that country has waged in its history.

        They, the British government, has never really been friendly to us anyway. Only Maggie and Winston, sort of.

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    • BebeTarget says:

      The best article I have read explains how this spy network worked. . . . . https://www.steynonline.com/8667/tinker-tailor-clapper-carter-downer-halper-spy

      Liked by 6 people

    • Is this similar to the age-old Clintonian question of what the meaning of “is” is?

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  2. wheatietoo says:

    Bongino is right about this.

    The Dems are trying to gaslight us, bigtime, about what a ‘spy’ is.
    As usual, they are engaging in word games and trying to change the meaning of words.

    An ‘informant’ is someone who was witness to events & information, before they became an informant.

    A ‘spy’ is someone who is sent forth to witness and gather information…and then reports back on it.

    There shouldn’t even be a debate on this.
    Duh.

    Liked by 44 people

    • MTeresa says:

      I’m really tired of being gaslighted.

      Liked by 16 people

    • missilemom says:

      Not us; the sheep.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

      Voters are not nearly as stupid as the media hopes they are.

      And they don’t need Democrats telling them what a spy is.

      Liked by 7 people

      • billrla says:

        Vespucci: Ah, the good old days of television, when men were men and spys were spys.

        Liked by 4 people

      • MVW says:

        Now I see where Maxwell Smart’s show got their multiple sliding doors on the shows beginning scene. A little over the top. Loved that show.

        Liked by 1 person

      • Kenji says:

        Falsehood
        Prevarication
        Deceit
        Invention
        Suggestion
        deception
        dishonesty
        disinformation
        distortion
        evasion
        fabrication
        fiction
        forgery
        inaccuracy
        misrepresentation
        myth
        perjury
        slander
        tale
        aspersion
        backbiting
        calumniation
        defamation
        detraction
        fable
        falseness
        falsification
        falsity
        fraudulence
        guile
        hyperbole
        invention
        mendacity
        misstatement
        obloquy
        revilement
        reviling
        subterfuge
        vilification

        I give Tucker Carlson BIG PROPS … for using the verb … LIE … to describe how the Deep state monoparty LIARS are treating the word “SPY”. In introducing the topic, Tucker correctly says that these Deep state bureaucrats and political operatives are LYING to YOU. He carefully avoids all the “softer” synonyms for LYING … LIE … LIES!!!

        Thank you, Tucker. There are times when a spade must be called a spade.

        Liked by 9 people

        • navysquid says:

          Fixed it for you Kenji,
          In five or more words describe Obama:
          Falsehood
          Prevarication
          Deceit
          Invention
          Suggestion
          deception
          dishonesty
          disinformation
          distortion
          evasion
          fabrication
          fiction
          forgery
          inaccuracy
          misrepresentation
          myth
          perjury
          slander
          tale
          aspersion
          backbiting
          calumniation
          defamation
          detraction
          fable
          falseness
          falsification
          falsity
          fraudulence
          guile
          hyperbole
          invention
          mendacity
          misstatement
          obloquy
          revilement
          reviling
          subterfuge
          vilification

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        • Sayit2016 says:

          If I hear the word ” misleading” one more time…..

          Liked by 1 person

    • Sayit2016 says:

      It depends on what the definition of IS IS… typical liberal tide pod garbage.

      Liked by 15 people

    • “It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.” – Bill Clinton

      Same people, same game.

      Liked by 9 people

      • Kenji says:

        Parsing … (decomposing) the grammar of sentences … is never for clarity of thought … But for subterfuge. Sadly, too many Americans are easily confused by the tactic.

        Liked by 5 people

    • lumoc1 says:

      The best way to explain the difference between a spy and an informant is to understand that the informant knows the information before he is recruited and it is the reason why the informant is recruited, while the spy does not know the information before he is recruited and will attempt to find the information.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Daniel Mark Camac says:

      Wheatie, The clip SD put up spells it out CLEAR as DAY. Tucker and Dan, Dan and Tucker….could be a good thing there.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Grassleygirl/Breitbartista says:

      As far as I know the informant never worked for /with the Trump campaign(as in hired or employed by) so if he was planted into the campaign to inform someone outside said campaign,he is indeed a spyy!!!
      Media/Pravda wannabes cannot accept that us middle America phlebs don’t watch “Mission Impossible or reruns of “Man from UNCLE. JOE”to get an edgamucation on espionage techniques and definition s of what a spy is.
      The fools think they can Gruber us stoopid people.
      And the gaul of these journolists,constantly saying that ” Americans agree with them,polls agree with them,bloody liars. Absolute gaslighters, the whole lot.

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    • “That depends on what the meaning of is, is…”

      The rinos are doing the same thing as well, to compliment your great comment. 🙂

      The beautiful part of what is making some of us incredibly angry, is it is all out in the vast WIDE OPEN and even the usual morons are seeing it, and cannot defend it or wouldn’t at this point. People are leaving UniParty in droves and looking at candidates like never before. I love it!

      Enemedia is stumbling around like a drunken chrissy matthews looking for a place to toe tap to cure the tingling up his leg. lmao

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  3. joeknuckles says:

    if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, but it’s not really a duck, it’s a spy.

    Liked by 19 people

  4. sundance says:

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  5. L4grasshopper says:

    The distinction is critical to the understanding of why doing it domestically is so very, very wrong if not done for extremely good reasons that are vetted an approved by competent authority.

    The 4th Amendment protects all US citizens, no matter where they reside, from unreasonable search. It is coming to the conclusion of the “reasonability” to listen to a phone call, record it, capture emails, or texts, that should require substantial PROOF that the target is a national security threat, AND is actively working with a foreign entity to harm the country.

    Merely suspecting it is not good enough. Hearsay evidence is not good enough. Associations with know foreign spies — absent any provable evidence of actual participation in working with that foreigner to harm national security….is not good enough. It is if you are targeting non US citizens. It is NOT if a US citizen is involved.

    Using FISA to electronically surveil any US without documented evidence of them already being a national security threat or a foreign agent is illegal. Placing one or more “informants” in your opponents political campaign because you might suspect one or more members of that campaign is actively working with a foreign entity is not enough. You have to already have the evidence. The 4th Amendment does NOT allow you to fish for the evidence via “spying” an any US citizen.

    Spying is not law enforcement. It is spying. And it is highly illegal on any US citizen or entity absent verified proof in hand that the target is a known threat to national security.

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    • WSB says:

      Perfect! Let’s hope Huber is well aware!

      Liked by 4 people

    • wheatietoo says:

      The distinction is also…Government.

      It’s one thing to hire your own private investigators to gather info on someone, or something.
      People do this for industrial reasons, personal reasons or political reasons.
      But it is in the Private Sector…and not using the power & resources of the Government.

      This was the illegal use of the full power of the Government to spy and gather info on someone…for purely Political Reasons!

      And what is even worse, is that they also Manufactured False Evidence for the purpose of Framing a duly elected President, for something he didn’t do!

      Liked by 17 people

      • Putting On Its Shoes says:

        It is called deprivation of rights under color of law, among other things — e.g. 18 U.S. Code § 242

        Also many of the other things they did are illegal for private citizens or opposition research people to do, tapping phones, eavesdropping, recording conversations, etc.

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    • Grassleygirl/Breitbartista says:

      Oh so the fact that you hate the opposition candidate isn’t enough?/s

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    • Grassleygirl/Breitbartista says:

      Oh so the fact that you hate the opposition candidate isn’t enough?/s

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    • “The distinction is critical to the understanding of why doing it domestically is so very, very wrong if not done for extremely good reasons that are vetted an approved by competent authority.”

      Vetted by who, and approved by what competent authority?

      Therein lies the rub for all of mankind, which has always existed because as has been said before and shall be again, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

      Our own form of alleged “government” is wholly dependent upon honest representation. That’s why it is the way it is now, totally fubar without a complete Reckoning and reset which will last how long?

      Of course, we have to try and for sure a nice steady series of well-publicized punishments according to our Constitution as the maximum penalty for treason would be a great assist.
      That could occupy the 6 pm “news” for quite a while…

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    • Konamon says:

      Who defines National Security?

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  6. theresanne says:

    The MSM seems to have turned into agents of mass hypnosis, holding up shining objects while repeating lies over and over again.

    Liked by 13 people

    • wheatietoo says:

      That’s why I call them…the Enemedia.

      And it’s not just the news nozzles.
      Hollywood, the whole Entertainment Media Complex, is also engaging in the mass propaganda and leftist programming.

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      • Plus “talk” radio in nearly every aspect. Some of the local guys are awesome, I trust not one single national talking head one iota.

        Free country, anyone that wants to can listen to whoever they like. I choose none.

        But, I like to do my own thinking without the static of products being shoved at me every 15 minutes too. lol I don’t need “lifelock”, I have my own physical gold and silver connections (IF I were to ever want to buy some, I don’t have any yet ;-)) and ALL the rest is purely hype and garbage!

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    • Tl Howard says:

      There needs to be a campaign to get the FCC licenses revoked for the major 3 networks.

      Liked by 4 people

      • snellvillebob says:

        My first reaction is to say the problem with revoking the fake news licenses that is the next democrat will use that as a precedence to revoke all conservative news licenses. However since either leftist Comcast or Disney are going to buy FOX and convert it to conservative it just will not matter any more.

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        • I think you meant convert it to fake liberal, but faux news is already fake liberal most of the time anyway. Shep, for instance… is fake and a fake liberal.

          If today’s liberals weren’t fake and were actually liberal, they wouldn’t be about as tolerant, peaceful and diverse as the moslem homocide vest wearing tools of evil.

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  7. HickTick says:

    I cant wait until they get in a hearing and they must present all this Russian evidence of just how they were meddling in the Trump campaign . I want to hear Brennan answer the hard questions . I want them to have to say Carter Page was a genuine Russian spy and keep a straight face .

    Liked by 10 people

    • missilemom says:

      I want them before a grand jury; enough with the hearings; my heart broke with the Benghazi fiasco.

      Liked by 16 people

      • WSB says:

        And every single terrorist massacre that incurred deaths and injuries between Florida, Chattanooga. and California.

        The people responsible for counter terrorism at the FBI spent most of their time texting and working on taking out their sworn enemy, rather than saving lives of their fellow Americans.

        That should be enough for hanging.

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  8. thebigolddog says:

    The Corrupt Media is the propaganda and public relations arm of the Deep State. Like the corrupt actors in the CIA, FBI and DOJ, the corrupt members of the media must be publicly exposed and held to account if we are to MAGA.

    Liked by 13 people

  9. MTeresa says:

    The whole argument of the left is so absurd. Anyone with two brain cells understands what constitutes a “spy.”

    Liked by 8 people

  10. TejasRob says:

    They know whatever lie they tell the liberal/never Trump media will run with it as truth.

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  11. Donna in Oregon says:

    Not into semantics.

    This reminds me of when President Trump said the Obama admin. “wire tapped” the his campaign, transition team and administration and every one laughed.

    Call it whatever……”IS” is.

    The President was spied on and wire tapped.

    End of story.

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      “Wire tapped” was a synonym for “electronically spied on”.

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    • The Boss says:

      Getting to the ‘End of Story’ is going to be the trip though. Do you agree Donna?

      Liked by 1 person

    • Ms B says:

      Ha! Donna, you took the words right out of my mouth. It depends on what the meaning of “is” is!

      Liked by 2 people

    • ezpz2 says:

      Donna, didn’t see this comment when I posted mine below.
      Great minds ‘n stuff…

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    • TejasRob says:

      >Not into semantics.

      This reminds me of when President Trump said the Obama admin. “wire tapped” the his campaign, transition team and administration and every one laughed.<

      Same here, they look for reasons to try to discredit President Trump no matter how ridiculous they make themselves look. Saying "wiretapping" is no different than saying "dial a phone number". Everyone knows what you mean.

      It's like when my thirty-something niece laughs at me for saying "icebox" instead of refrigerator.

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  12. Bogeyfree says:

    Just ask yourself who would have ordered the IRS to do what they did to the conservative Tea Party? Your answer should be the the same man that was obsessed with building a huge database to gain dirt to use on people as leverage. And IMO the same man who ordered the spying on Trump.

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  13. ezpz2 says:

    Definition of is 2.0.
    Because the first one was so successful 🙄

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  14. GB Bari says:

    This is mass psyops by the deep state-managed eneMedia.
    The low level decent employees in the intelligence community who are justifiably fearful of coming forward to identify lawbreakers and leakers need to be made aware of how to safely become confidential informants to the senior white hats so that these organizations can be cleaned out of the subversives who are undermining our country.

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    • Carrie2 says:

      GB, apparently someone is coming forward and I hope to God his name is never mentioned and he be careful all 24 hrs. because a “strange death” might happen.

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    • The thing is though, GB Bari… this thing we are witnessing, this massive causation to bring all this to this moment in time with Trump leading the charge against evil…

      Is global.

      We need to acknowledge the scope and be patient yet very active if possible on our own level, in our own localities. The infection is deep, someone who lives next door to us or right across the street is infected. Or on both sides and across the street.

      Just sayin’… and have been for 28 years. Fewer mock me now than before, many come back to ask me how I knew.

      ghw bush told me on tell lie vision on 9/11/1990. In fact, he told the whole nation that wasn’t listening or didn’t want to hear it. It was the one truth he said that was truth for sure.

      Many still deny it. “New World Order”. Renamed to soften the blow? Globalism. Ah, much better… not.

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  15. M33 says:

    The left’s thoughts on the meaning of the word “spy”:

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  16. Q&A says:

    Reminds me of when President Trump used the term “wiretapping” and how the media, libs and neverTrumpers mocked him for using the term. Nitpicking the literal meaning is a distraction used by bad actors to divert attention away from bad acts.

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  17. Carrie2 says:

    How horrible to think that money will buy any criminal act and with the hundreds of millions received by the Clintons, they can buy many in the FBI, the CIA, and so many other department heads it gives me a headache. Sessions is now looking into Hillary and the sale of OUR uranium in sneaky ways and now we know Mueller was involved in this crime. Hope soon to see all 3 Clintons on the gallows walk, along with apparently some 30 others traitors. How dare they think they could buy our country and shaft us and never, ever get caught. Typical criminals because rarely does a few criminals never get caught, but the ways of the Obama/Clinton have crashed because they thought they were smarter than we REAL American citizens. After the gallows walk, may they burn in Hell for eternity! Frankly, there is no way I can or would pray for their souls because they don’t have any souls!

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  18. amwick says:

    This is not a pie. It is a confidential pastry, or something..

    Liked by 16 people

  19. Piggy says:

    The enemedia has no choice but to keep doubling down. They are not and have not been objective. That has always been a marketing gimmick. They’re all in and just like what has been repeated on this site “millions of dollars at stake”. They work for the so-called elite who own them.

    Informer, spy, whatever. It doesn’t change the facts that this whole thing was set up to overthrow an election.

    This train not going to stop. No backing down.

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  20. Ringoagogo says:

    It really makes me angry the the news is so corrupt and dishonest.
    People believe what the say and they are outright liars. And CNN has already been searched by the FCC for false news.
    Now they are doubling down. To what end?
    Destroy Trump. It is going to get ugly fast if this keeps up. How much are we expected to endure?
    Boycott CNN for starters.

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  21. billrla says:

    Hillary: “A spy? You mean, like, with a cloak?”

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  22. Sharon says:

    My oldest brother was a navigator/photographer on U-2 missions during the cold war, flying on both the Russia-Finland border and doing overflights of Cuba in the lead up to the “missile crisis”.

    Nothing would make him hotter in conversation that someone who didn’t know any better referring to what they were doing with the U-2 flights as “spying”. Those who were involved in reconnaissance had no intention of accepting a description that had them as spies. They saw a huge difference between the two concepts.

    It’s no wonder that the left, in this current mess, does not want public acceptance of the idea that they were spying – must find different words, nicer words. Even as they keep trying to tell people what to think, as they destroy the language, they still know that words matter. So they are freaked out.

    Those who are current military can speak to this more specifically than I can, but I can still hear my brother’s voice tighten and shift into overdrive if he thought someone was suggesting that he was involved in spying.

    POTUS knows how to yank chains.

    So many chains have needed yanking for a long, long time.

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    • nimrodman says:

      Well, as U2 crew, he may have convinced himself that he wasn’t “involved in spying”.

      But the CIA analysts poring over his photos were.

      Liked by 3 people

    • delmarvajim says:

      So can we call these spies “undocumented reconnaissance agents” instead of using the word spies? They were spying on the Trump campaign. End of conversation

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      • Sharon says:

        I was certainly not suggesting that they are/were not spies. Just pointing out that it is indeed a loaded reference and their freak-out reaction to being called what they are indicates that they know good and well what they were doing. And just don’t want to be called on it.

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        • delmarvajim says:

          Sharon, I wasn’t referring to your brother or his work but rather using your comment to point out a gaslighting technique by the MSM when they try to change the word narrative to something other than the truth.

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        • RedBallExpress says:

          In my opinion your brother was not a “spy” since it was a military mission. They took photos from above and they probably encroached on enemy air space. He could have been shot down if the enemy had the capability. Everyone knew what was going on and your brother had some guts all right. The stress had to be off the chart.

          The cold war was not a practice session. It was an extremely dangerous and expensive all out war. The U.S. enclosed an underwater Russian communication cable with a special box that recorded every message. It was not considered spying since the sensors did not penetrate the cable.

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    • Curry Worsham says:

      How did he deal with the fact that they were called “spy planes”?

      Liked by 2 people

      • czarowniczy says:

        Only detractors called them ‘spy planes’, we used to call them strategic reconnaissance platforms.

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        • Curry Worsham says:

          The detractors were very effective.

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          • czarowniczy says:

            How to know you’re old: I can rememberv working SR-72 footage when its source was too classified for us to know where the data came from. Some years back I took one of my sons to the museum at Eglin and there’s an SR-72 out there you can walk up to touch.
            Sort like how the name ‘National Reconnaissance Office’ was once classified and now there’s a large sign on the road in Chantilly marking the NRO off-ramp.
            SR-72’s museum stuff but the U-2’s still flying.

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            • Sharon says:

              Is the TR-1 still operational, Czar? Watching that piece of engineering climb sort of straight into the sky upon takeoff is something to see…..

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              • czarowniczy says:

                The AF has been trying to retire it for ten-pluscyears, saying they want to replace it with unmanned sysyems already in the inventory. Last I heard their retirement was postponed indefinately, the 30 or so will keep chugging along and racing the Buff for ‘oldest airframe in the air’. NASA also has a couple they still fly.

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              • czarowniczy says:

                We had, back in the late 90s, an SR-71 make

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  &*^%$# Chromebook…
                  …an emergency landing at Belle Chasse NAS just south of NOLA. There was no specific support available so they had to tow it to a hanger with what they had and wait for its support base to send a repair crew and parts. Needless to say the pilot got the royal treatment.
                  When it was repaired and ready to leave the pilot taxied it to the end of the runway and did his preflight runup. The engines could be heard miles away as he tested them and again as he kicked it to take off. We thought it was neat when he roared past, nosed up and rockerted out of sight but…..a few minutes later he came back, made a lower level screaming pass, nosed up and just disappeared. You could still hearbit when you could no longer see it.
                  Unpatriotic and possibly illegal thought on my part (I was wearing my uniform as I watched) was how disgusting it was that power and majesty like the SR-71 being under the direct control of dreck like Clinton and the Democrats in Congress was disgraceful and boardering on treasonous.

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            • czarowniczy says:

              Whoops – fat finger: S/B SR-71, SR-72 is still a concept thingie.

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    • snellvillebob says:

      Ronald Reagan called that “Verifying”.

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    • Sylvia Avery says:

      Your brother had his neck way out on the line for all of us. I sure appreciate what he did for us.

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  23. ForGodandCountry says:

    This would all be laughable if it wasn’t so lethal to the Constitution.

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  24. CountryclassVulgarian says:

    I love Bongino – “spying, s-p-y, or s-p-y-y if you are joe biden”.

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  25. 4harrisonblog says:

    Haters are going to hate and liars are going to lie. That is why I hate the media, globalist liars.

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  26. Ziiggii says:

    The answer is YES…

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  27. Tl Howard says:

    Would Comey yet know what the IG report says about his part in the email scandal? He was on late night talk show last night acting quite sure of himself. Do the people mentioned in the IG report get to read the IG’s conclusions or only get to read their interviews with the IG’s office to report any inconsistencies or falsehoods if they spot them?

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  28. missilemom says:

    Had to lay low for a couple of days. My expectations tend to get me in trouble. I really thought we would see definitive action/real justice this week. The DOJ once again tried to set up Devin Nunes.
    Mitch McConnell’s support of Mueller had my blood boiling. I know that we need to stay calm and get the word out in a rational way. The evidence is overwhelming that the Obama administration spied on Trump not the Russians. What does it take? Loved the Tucker Carlson/Bongino interview not because I learned anything new but because these are two very effective communicators of the message.

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    • billrla says:

      missilemom: I know what you mean. It helps to keep in mind that our nation’s fallen deserve our undivided attention this weekend. Our nation’s seditionists? Not so much.

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    • ristvan says:

      MM, I counsel a bit of patience this Mem Day weekend, especially with my Dad now interred at Arlington with the ‘other’ neck order, which burial the military insisted included full caison honors and a 21 gun salute despite my family’s more modest wishes. I am in possession of that neck order plus his folded Adlington internment flag. You can have no idea what that truly means to us.
      Per long previous thread, looked at IG process. Clinton Draft was ‘published’ ~16 May. Typical response to final is about ~14 days, usually to recommendations rather than fact findings. So expect some post Memorial Day fireworks. A reason to celebrate.

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  29. drillerelite says:

    Bongino is great, I just got hip to his podcasts on the Iheart app earlier this week. The media and the American left don’t realize what they’ve done to us after these last dark years under their gaslighting and political correctness tyranny. They have no one left to threaten and manipulate anymore except their own and the weak (corrupt) rinos who also hate us.

    The hell with their games of projecting their corruption on us, discrediting valid points, obfuscating and euphemising facts. These devil-spawn Democrats (hi Schiffty 👀) need to be annihilated at the ballot. Hopefully they’re all locked up by then anyways, and their media cohorts. This is beyond ridiculous now

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  30. big bad mike says:

    Just rewatched the Ingraham Angle replay of her interview with Caputo and Carter Page. Page is definitely a spy. Caputo is weak. Ingraham is clueless. C’mon Fox. We would be better off making Chip and Joanna Gaines the Investigative Reporters on this Witch Hunt to get to the Truth. We need a Fixer Upper on this POS.

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  31. WeThePeople2016 says:

    Love Bongino. I listen to his daily Podcasts which are great.

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  32. starfcker says:

    Well, Mr. Clapper and Mr. Comey and mr. Brenner, and all the rest of them can double talk, and spin, and excuse, and pontificate, and lie, but you know it’s going to buy them? They’re so busy fighting Trump and the Republicans as they see it, to realize that the brain shots that take them out are the cooperating witnesses and the corroborating documents. All this flailing around isn’t going to help them at all.

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    • Everywhereguy says:

      “It was only for your own good. Trust us, we know best.”

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    • 4beagles says:

      No hair, easy to find the ….

      The medulla oblongata (or medulla) is located in the brainstem, anterior and partially inferior to the cerebellum. It is a cone-shaped neuronal mass responsible for autonomic (involuntary) functions ranging from vomiting to sneezing. The medulla contains the cardiac, respiratory, vomiting and vasomotor centers and therefore deals with the autonomic functions of breathing, heart rate and blood pressure.

      Clap off the Clapper

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    • TarsTarkas says:

      And didn’t need to know about. How else do you think he got elected? And now that we got him elected we’re going to bring him down just to show everybody who really runs the show! Bwahahahahabwahahahaha!

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Sorta hard putting something up there without someone noticing but wait…is it a RORSAT redux? A MUOS replacement? A remote WiFi platform that would allow sailors to access Yelp before coming into a foreign port? Sooooo many possibilities.

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  33. 4beagles says:

    ? what IS a confidential informant ?
    A; a spy

    ? the next OIG is Clinton campaign related?
    ? Is Jeff Sessions Recused from that?

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  34. jb says:

    Clapper needs new dentures.

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  35. NJF says:

    Uggghhhh

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    • Dekester says:

      One wonders just how much baiting PDJT will take.

      This assault on his family is despicable.

      PDJTs Presidency has shattered what little belief I had in good government.

      The MSM are simply unwatchable, and they may relegated to a footnote in history by the end of PDJTs eight year term.

      God bless PDJT

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  36. joeknuckles says:

    Doing the hard research the MSM is unwilling to do (I looked it up in the dictionary):

    spy /spī/
    noun
    noun: spy; plural noun: spies
    1. a person who secretly collects and reports information on the activities, movements, and plans of an enemy or competitor.

    synonyms: secret agent, intelligence agent, double agent, undercover agent, counterspy, mole, sleeper, plant.

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  37. 1popefrancis says:

    I very much respect the opinion of the webmaster of CTH and I posit this question which has been asked about a million times…why now “declassify” – everything? Yes, yes I know that techniques and methods (or whatever the hell it is” needs to be scaled down in some form of redaction …but why not try a drip-drip-drip…the pressure will blow the whole thing sky-high – as it should…de-classify [now] Now, I am not being naive, of course Donaldus Trumpus has considered this course…I [personally] just do not understand the argument for [against]??? So I am asking for some guidance SD…

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  38. JX says:

    There are procedures for use of confidential informants, there is a paper trail.

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  39. LM says:

    So spying, wiretapping, bugging, all of the above employed not only to monitor, get dirt on, and frame, but to gain leverage to blackmail? To create a puppet out of President Trump and/or members of his administration….or…his kids?

    These tactic have been proven successful over time against othere members of the opposition, perhaps Romney, Judge Nap, Congress, Judges (Roberts)?

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    • LM says:

      This is why they should be brought to justice—full measure—to serve as a deterren to ensure the integrity of our governing process and safeguard the people we send to represent us.

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  40. xcontra says:

    Geez, Dan! Remember your blood pressure!! 😀

    Not that I blame you, Mr. Bongino. I wish someone would point out what (a) the Soviets and (b) the Mafia would do if they discovered a “confidential informant” who is not a spy. Lenin’s solution to everything was a bullet in the neck, and similar for Carlo Gambino.

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  41. david smith says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images

    This is not a spy. This is not a pipe.

    Rene Magritte

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  42. jmclever says:

    Confidential informant is to spy as extremely careless is to grossly negligent

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  43. k4jjj says:

    Carter Page always seems like he’s jerking TV interviewers around. He acts like some happy-go-lucky college kid on spring break. This is just a frat party for him and he is thrilled to be the center of attention. He obviously has nothing to fear from his handlers at the FBI. They have never charged him with anything and have no intention of doing so because he was just their live bait in the trap to justify the FISA spying to snare Trump.

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  44. czarowniczy says:

    Got kids? Ever catch your 10-year old with his hand in the Hakkoween candy after being told not to? “Well, Mom/Dad, I wasn’t exactly eating it, I was just….”
    Not much difference in the crabbing here or with that kid, we knows spies when we sees ‘um.

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  45. navysquid says:

    I guess then what I’ve been doing is human relationship building and monthly meetings and chai…

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  46. fakenoozisforfools says:

    Tucker — you need to get a better class of friends.

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  47. Donna in Oregon says:

    Seriously…..we’re going to play “I spy with my little eye”…….

    What has the MSM come to? So pathetic.

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