Part I – The FISA Court Grants The Authority, Not The Ability…

There is a meeting scheduled tomorrow between key congressional oversight committee heads (Nunes, Gowdy etc.) and leadership of the FBI (Director Wray), DOJ (Edward O’Callaghan) and ODNI (Dan Coats).  The meeting was set up by White House Chief of Staff John Kelly, and the purpose of the meeting is to come to some agreement on access to documents being withheld by the DOJ, DOJ-NSD and FBI.

However, amid the ongoing debate over spies and informants used by the CIA and FBI to conduct political surveillance, there’s an aspect of the ongoing investigation that seems to be entirely overlooked.

On January 7th, 2016 the Inspector General of the National Security Agency, George Ellard, submitted a mandatory compliance report outlining the status of the NSA’s ability to monitor the access of users within the NSA database.

I’m including the full report below in pdf format because it is important to understand what the NSA inspector general said.  I strongly urge you to read it (despite the redactions) because the larger issues remain visible within the report:

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For those who don’t read it, a quick summary would be: We don’t actually have control over how this massive amount of meta-data is being used, searched, queried, and how the information within it is being filtered, minimized or extracted.

The NSA is essentially admitting to being overwhelmed with the scale of the data being collected, and they are similarly overwhelmed by the number of people who have access to this data. Of course the NSA Inspector General uses use much more techno-terminology like:

“Agency controls for monitoring query compliance have not been completely developed.”

…And: “The Agency has no process to reliably identify queries performed using selectors associated with 704 and 705(b) targets.”

…And more alarmingly: “We identified another [redacted] queries that were performed outside the targeting authorization periods in E.O. 12333 data, which is prohibited by the E.O. 12333 minimization procedures. We also identified queries performed using USP selectors in FAA §702 upstream data, which is prohibited by the FAA §702 minimization procedures.”

In short: There’s a ton of activity that we know is taking place that is not supposed to be happening; and we really don’t know the full scale of the abuse we know to be happening -but can’t get our arms around- because, well, there’s just so damn much of it.

This is a critical part of the Obama-term spying and surveillance issue that is being missed by current media reporting.

Given the highly political nature of the intelligence activity we are seeing lately, who do you think would be exploiting those system-wide database vulnerabilities, and why?

Yep, likely those carrying the most entrenched political agenda and ideology. Vested interests both inside the government (career deep state agency staff writ large), and outside government (all those pesky contractors we keep hearing about).

The FBI and NSA database is essentially a vault of unlimited information; the mother-lode of metadata and electronic record-keeping of everything.  Essentially, the holy grail for political operatives who would like to exploit and leverage the information.

Do you want to conduct opposition research?  Those databases would contain such exhaustive amounts of information you could assign a dozen users per target and still not scratch the surface of what is available.  Bank records, purchases, social media accounts, phone records, GPS locations, travel patterns, vehicle locations, home/work ip addresses, emails, audio-activation, pictures, CCTV captures, the works.

Through electronic surveillance you could spy and surveil anyone; in almost real time if focused, motivated and intended. What stands between this massive surveillance system being used/abused for those political purposes or not?

Nothing.

Really.

Unless you want to define self-restraint and the morality of the person who has access as an impediment.  Extractions or leaks are only unlawful if you are on the wrong ideological side of those who control the political reigns of power…. Just ask James Comey.  If you didn’t intend to break the law, you didn’t.

Do you think such a network could/would be exploited or weaponized for political purposes?   Well, did you think the IRS would be weaponized in 2010?  Think about it…

Now, consider yourself a person motivated by nefarious political intent.  Or perhaps like Lisa Page and Peter Strzok you are motivated by a higher calling to protect our country from outcomes of an election you don’t agree with.  Perhaps you are authorized by willful blindness of those who are suppose to be the gatekeepers. Now, what does going to the FISA Court gain you, that you don’t already have?

Going to the FISA Court gains you “authority“; it doesn’t gain you access.  You already have the access.

There’s a saying: “It’s easier to ask for forgiveness, than permission.”

As you think of that phrase, consider the April 2017 declassified FISA Court ruling we often reference, along with the admissions made to the FISA court by the DOJ, FBI and NSA in October of 2016.  Approximately 85% of all FISA-702(17) “about” queries were unlawful violations.

What was the DOJ, FBI and NSA asking the FISA Court for: ‘forgiveness’, or ‘permission‘?

I don’t want to overwhelm any single discussion article with too much cited information.  It can become overwhelming to try and keep track of it all.  However, I would strongly suggest that based on the intelligence communities own admissions, throughout 2015 and the beginning of 2016 – all of the non-preferred presidential candidates were under electronic surveillance by people in and outside of government who had access to this holy grail of opposition research.

It wasn’t until NSA Director Mike Rogers shut down contractor access to the system in April 2016 that political exploitation of the FBI and NSA databases was impeded.  Not stopped entirely, simply impeded.

(FISA 99-page Opinion – Rosemary Collyer Presiding Judge)

Remember this name: John P Carlin.  It’s going to become much more important as the days and weeks progress.  He plays a key role in part of the activity in 2016 and connects the story of Carter Page to the FBI and CIA surveillance operation. {Preview Here}

On September 26th, 2016, the head of the Department of Justice National Security Division, John P Carlin (pictured above) filed the required certification letter (full pdf below) with the FISA court for the year 2016.

Mr. Carlin DID NOT include the Inspector General report from January 2016; and Carlin did not notify the FISA court of the compliance audit requested by NSA Director Mike Rogers as an outcome of that IG report (March 2016).

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The next day, September 27th, 2016, John Carlin announced his resignation.

From an excellent MarketsWork Timeline:

♦On October 4, 2016, a standard follow-up hearing on the 2016 Section 702 Certification was held (Page 19). Carlin was present at the hearing. Again, Carlin made no disclosure of FISA Abuse. This would be noted by the Court later (see below).

♦On October 15, 2016, Carlin formally left the NSD.

♦On October 20 2016, Rogers was briefed by the NSA compliance officer on findings from the 702 NSA compliance audit. The audit had uncovered numerous “About” Query violations (Senate testimony).

♦On October 21, 2016, Rogers shut down all “About Query” activity. He reported his findings to the DOJ (Senate testimony & inferences from Court Ruling).

♦On October 21 2016, the DOJ & FBI sought and received a Title I FISA probable cause order authorizing electronic surveillance on Carter Page from the FISA Court. At this point, the FISA Court was still unaware of the Section 702 violations.

♦On October 24, 2016, Rogers verbally informed the FISA Court of his findings (Page 4 of Court Ruling).

♦On October 26, 2016, Rogers appeared formally before the FISA Court and presented the written findings of his audit (Page 4, 14 & 19 of Court Ruling & Senate testimony).

The outcome of the October 26th formal filing by NSA Director Mike Rogers was the 99-page ruling from presiding FISA Judge Rosemary Collyer:

FISA Court Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer; Primary Intelligence Oversight Chairman Devin Nunes; Primary Judiciary Oversight Chairman Bob Goodlatte.

I would suggest to everyone following this deeply complex spying and surveillance story, that it was AFTER Mike Rogers initially began blocking use of the databases for unauthorized searches (March 2016), that those political operatives (outside contractors) shifted their spying and surveillance activity.

Following this timeline it was after March 2016 when the use of human assets, CIA and FBI agents, became more of a necessary function within the process.

After March and April of 2016 is where George Papadopoulos, Carter Page, and Stefan Halper become needed by the intelligence apparatus. It was in April 2016 when Fusion-GPS, Nellie Ohr and Chris Steele became more important.

I’ll get to the details of how each of them engage within the larger surveillance operation with greater specificity and citation in Part II.  And I’m pretty sure I can prove this:

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878 Responses to Part I – The FISA Court Grants The Authority, Not The Ability…

  1. Donzo says:

    I believe the Trump team has a difficult electoral puzzle is solve. Currently, the generic ballot is swinging in their favor with the slow drip of deep state collusion. If high profile arrests happen between now and Nov. it is hard to say what kind of effect this might have on voters. There’s no doubt the YSM will spin it as a Stalinist purge and some may buy into that scheme. But there’s the rub. Will another patently false media narrative have legs enough to sway voter opinion? Or will the “purge” just destroy what’s left of any chance for Dems to win in Nov? Maybe the current thinking is that the slow drip is the more risk averse pathway to Republican victory. If so, many Treepers may be very annoyed over the next 5 months.

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    • Donzo says:

      On second thought this is off topic. Apologies.

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      • Margarita says:

        “If high profile arrests happen between now and Nov. it is hard to say what kind of effect this might have on voters. There’s no doubt the YSM will spin it as a Stalinist purge and some may buy into that scheme. ”

        You have a point there. Something to think about and pray it does not happen. Thanks.

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    • Golfbro11 says:

      I look at it this way. Lets say a scientist can prove beyond a doubt that an asteroid is going to hit Earth in exactly 2 years. One approach would be for the President to go on TV and say, “an asteroid will hit Earth causing massive destruction, good luck everyone.”
      Another approach would be to start filtering news stories over a period of months talking about what kind of potential an asteroid could have on Earth, start making preparations and bring people slowly to the conclusion that they needed to prepare, and finally making the announcement that our fears have been realized and the Asteroid will in fact hit Earth. In scenario 1 you would have mass chaos and anarchy. Most likely life as we know it would be gone long before the Asteroid hits. In scenario 2, you have much more control over the outcome of the inevitable announcement. Tying everything together, The Big Ugly is our asteroid. When the hammer drops on the deep state and Obummer and his minions, people will already have most of the story of the corruption. Think of everything we have learned in the last 18 months. The deep state and the media will have a much harder time spinning the coming indictments. Just look at all the knots Clapper and Brennan and Comey etc are tying themselves up over Spygate. In short, buy more Popcorn!

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    • Mark McQueen says:

      IMO it’s unwise to make this a BIG campaign issue Focus like a laser beam on the POSITIVE effects of President Trump’s policies. Leave this as a “side issue” and portray it as a political vendetta by the Dems. This where the GOP will find the most success gaining new voters and keeping the ones that approve of the job the President is doing.

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      • Maquis says:

        Agreed. Not a fan of the “maximal electorial effect” approach to addressing lawbreaking. We are not rank opportunists, we are law-abiding chips-will-fall-where-they-may America Loving Patriots.

        All things work to the good of those that love God.
        (Those who love Good.)

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  2. TexasDude says:

    I was trained in college for creating and maintaining IBM DB2 databases. During my career as a software developer I created and maintained SQL Server and Oracle (On Unix boxes) databases.

    All these databases have access, audit, error logs. They can automatically log IP addresses of client gaining access, operation requested, result of operation, etc, etc.

    Moreover, you can develop the database (create tables and relationships) to log such things and expand on information more than the logs created by the database.

    I am astounded that the NSA cannot track who accesses the database and track what they are using it for.

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  3. JG 3 says:

    Let’s see, have to prove “intent” per Comey’s on Hill’s email case, per Brennan, Clapper on View, yesterday, Comey today “without intent, not a lie” So, are we back to “the definition is “IS” ?

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  4. waicool says:

    “And i’m pretty sure I can prove this”. Godspeed to you man! Well presented , indisputable prosecutorial proof.

    Liked by 7 people

  5. andy says:

    white squall vs crossfire hurricane…
    Where the ONI PWNS the FBI

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  6. MS Idaho says:

    IMHO. The trigger was Jeb Bush dropping out at the end of February. He was the ‘chosen’ one over flawed HRC. With him gone ‘they’ were left with ‘what do we do now? HRC MUST win. All we are seeing now began then. Another thought. I have been working with computers since 1980. just say’n. They were not used then like they are now. Spying during the Nixon or Reagan admins (or earlier) did not involve computers. What changed the ‘spying game’? The ability to gather info from devices people use. And The Patriot Act. I work with data bases. Let me say collecting and entering data is merely grunt work. The magic is in getting specific data back out. I joke that if the gov’t is spying on me via cell phone, camera, facebook or whatever, they can die of boredom. I might be a cipher ’cause I voted for VSGPDJT. I don’t have a solution – just the same fear for loss of privacy and other violations of the constitution shared with you. I agree with other ‘treepers’, Pandora’s box is open.
    Thank you Sundance – thank you ‘treepers’. Love your various evaluations – problems & solutions.

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    • doit4atlas says:

      Agree 100% about Jeb. That’s why I’ve been saying the two words that changed the world, two more powerful words have never been uttered in political history, those two words are:

      LOW ENERGY

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      • MS Idaho says:

        they spent a lot of $$ to showcase him – hahaha

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      • Roberto says:

        Big mess.

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      • Mr. Morris says:

        I agree. The “New World Order” President George H.W. Bush 41 was a Hillary fan boy when Jeb! Was no longer a viable candidate. “41” was once head of the CIA and worked closely with then Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton. I remember Mena airport. It is also interesting that Halper, one of the “spies” in “Spygate” worked with Bush when he was a VP Candidate. Also Halper was a CIA and FBI asset.’

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    • Orygun says:

      The redactions in that document are more in line with keeping “We the People” in the dark rather than a legitimate “National Security Issue”. If “We the People” are in disagreement with how our government is handling things then the government needs to rethink what they are doing.

      I spent the last 20 years of my career building databases and creating data queries. The number one issue was always data integrity and never let an IT professional write the front end for your data when they have no idea what the data means.
      I shudder when I think about all these data handlers working in this giant pile of data. It is so easy to corrupt the data and then all the data is worthless.

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    • cdquarles says:

      I disagree with the statement that spying didn’t involve computers. Of course it did. Database management systems date to the late 50s/early 60s; plus semi-automated to automated tabulating systems date to the late 19th Century. I will say that spying didn’t involve computers then to the extent it does now.

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  7. CollusionMyth says:

    Remember the name John P Carlin….
    https://www.mofo.com/people/john-carlin.html (yes mofo, Mr. Carlin’s new employer)

    “John P. Carlin, former Assistant Attorney General for the U.S. Department of Justice’s (DOJ) National Security Division (NSD), chairs Morrison & Foerster’s global risk and crisis management team and advises industry-leading organizations in sensitive cyber and other national security matters, white collar investigations, and government enforcement actions.”

    “Prior to assuming his role in the NSD, Mr. Carlin served as Chief of Staff and Senior Counsel to Robert S. Mueller, III, former director of the FBI”

    “Mr. Carlin also held positions as National Coordinator of the DOJ’s Computer Hacking and Intellectual Property Program”

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  8. JG 3 says:

    Texas Dude, per Inspector General Report Sundance provides above, we’re told “It’s too BIG!” More than can be handled…so, we’re just not responsible?

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  9. MIKE says:

    I wonder, if they had sent spies into the Hitlery Clanton campaign, would they have called it, “Operation Toothless Bearded Hag”?

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  10. TexasDude says:

    It also should be noted that the US government (CIA) and the other members of Five Eyes hav been in the mass collection of communications including electronic since at least the 1960s with Echelon.

    Later in the late 1990s, FBI co-opted a US Navy software that sniffed internet packets (Omnivore, Carnivore). This software tracked and store internet traffic.

    The US government has been in the mass surveillance business for well over half a century. One would think that well into the 21st Century that protocols and methods would have been developed to track and limit access to the data.

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  11. Angry Dumbo says:

    This was in the bag. According to Nate Silver in August of 2016, there was a 93% chance of not needing to ask for forgiveness OR permission.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now

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    • jbowen82 says:

      And I’m betting the conspirators were sloppy because of that . . . they wanted to get credit for their service to the tea,m so it probably was not as big a secret as it should have been.

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    • Zimbalistjunior says:

      Sadly for them they relied on pseudo science nate silver garbage : the same garbage that has ruined baseball strategy for a decade. But that’s a thread for another time.

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      • wendy forward says:

        Thanks for saying that Zimbalist. BF is a huge Dodger fan and we were just talking about this the other night.

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        • Zimbalistjunior says:

          Ya. Not to veer even more off topic but all the sabermetric stuff is based on misleading and incomplete stats. moneyball should have been called steroids-ball.

          I await SD posting on this topic before I waste space here saying anymore.

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          • Maquis says:

            There’s always the Daily Open Topic Thread. Many conversations move there from another thread for the very reasons you cited.

            Interesting subject. Not a sports guy, but always appreciate interesting conversations. I learn a lot here.

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    • gda says:

      Hmmmmmm! There’s been 93% negative coverage of VSGPDJT since inauguration and yet…………

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  12. Striker Dad says:

    I have no doubt that this very beast and its tentacles caused Justice John Roberts to give us Obamacare. There was something in the database somewhere that either could have embarrassed him or indicted him and some darkhat presented him with one option to avoid it coming to light.

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    • Donzo says:

      When you say you have no doubt Roberts was turned what is that based upon because it sure sounds like speculation to me? You could be right, but it’s also true that Roberts is very focused on steering the SC to neutral ground in terms of activism and the tug between branches, though, IMHO, there was clear violation of the commerce clause. Point being, I’m not going to have any part in sullying the reputation of the man w/o due cause. And he is afterall a moderate conservative in his rulings.

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      • John Williams says:

        I see bopth sides of this but let me tell you something: I sat in the Supreme Court for both Oral arguments in this case. And when I left after the first one, I was convinced that this law was going down. And Justice Roberts was clearly against.

        Then within a few weeks, something just happened…….

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        • Paco Loco says:

          What happened was Roberts woke up with a horse head in his bed…he got the message

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        • singular says:

          I heard Obama payed a visit to the Supreme Court before he took office, not sure when. Also, I have never gotten over Roberts “flubbing” the oath. Why didn’t they just start over right in front of the American people instead of saying they’d do it later in private. It has always made me wonder if it was deliberate so that something in that ceremony could be altered for Obama.

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      • ladypenquin says:

        That speculation is rooted in fact. Justice Scalia was shocked when the final decision was written. These Justices decide their vote before the decisions are written – for or against. Roberts was a “known” “no” to the Justices who were voting to overturn. Then Obama applied the screws over the next month while the decision was actually written – whipping Justice Roberts in the MSM. Day and night.

        Nice to see you worrying about “sullying” the good Justice Roberts. Even a moderate Conservative knew that he was in the wrong. ACA and taking over people’s healthcare, along with 1/5 of the economy isn’t “conservative” – its fascism. If Justice Roberts, a conservative couldn’t recognize that – he had no business being on the Court. So, the alternative possibility is that they got to him. That’s not speculation. Learned people felt the same way. Justice Scalia himself basically told Justice Roberts he had rewritten the law and made up non-existence power to create out of whole cloth his keeping ACA.

        I guess you can worry about speculation along with your concern about how POTUS exposes the Deep State’s crimes, noting your comment up above.

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        • lady P- great post, many good points!

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        • ladypenquin says:

          Oh, and one other point,

          “Roberts is very focused on steering the SC to neutral ground in terms of activism and the tug between branches”

          That statement is totally contradictory as to what Justice Roberts did – essentially he rewrote the law, which the Obama’s DOJ had argued before the Justices WAS NOT a tax law…and that’s where he not only was an activist Judge, he rewrote legislation. Which was not required nor desired.

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          • Alligator Gar says:

            “He rewrote legislation.” Precisely. That is as activist as it gets. Anyone who can defend a jurist who legislates from the bench doesn’t understand separation of powers. And to name that jurist as a conservative? Either it was a failed attempt at sarcasm or someone needs further study.

            Once again, you nailed it, Lady. I always enjoy your posts. They are articulate and to the point.

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            • ladypenquin says:

              You’re kind.

              The passage of the ACA was a travesty. Scammed through Congress, and I do believe our RINOs, had they been so inclined, could have stopped Harry Reid…then the passage on Christmas Eve – you can’t get any more in “your face” than that. When the SC took up the ACA, there was then, and still now, nothing in the Constitution that supported forcing people to buy health insurance. It struck to the core of America’s foundation – Freedom – the Right to say “No.”

              The Dems/Uniparty destroyed our healthcare. Now everyone has insurance and struggles to find “care.” Our doctors operate on a business model under onerous regulatory nonsense, and even if you “kept” your doctor, your doctor stopped functioning the way he/she had for years. The ACA sent many physicians into early retirement. George Bush bears blame too, with his EMR, electronic medical record. It destroyed your privacy, and now the provider is typing and paging through numerous worthless data collection points instead of looking and caring for you, the patient.

              The ACA is still on the books, the regulations still controlling our healthcare. No one should forget this. Ending the mandate is not enough.

              Maybe we’ll find out why they were able to get to Roberts. BTW, it can be revisited again by the Supreme Court. Similarly, so can Roe v Wade. All it would take would be a Justice with the guts and conscience to pull it back up for review. (and another Constitutional Conservative on the Court.)

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          • singular says:

            I suspect some judges lie low until they can reach a place of influence and also that in some cases, blackmail may enter into their unexpected decisions.

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        • Jim Ryan says:

          Excellent post, you bagged the facism and the activism.

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      • Grassleygirl/Breitbartista says:

        Definition of a Oxymoron? Moderate -Conservative !!

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        • ladypenquin says:

          I know! Was going to ask him the question what definition fits “Moderate Conservative” – Such a creature doesn’t exist. You can be a moderate Republican, but either one is a conservative or they’re not.

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      • sandab00 says:

        well of course it’s speculation? Jeez! IT sure fits though and in light of what we now know I’ll bet you a healthcare deductable it’s all true.

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        • ladypenquin says:

          I think we’d be shocked at the skeletons in people’s closets. Few can live a lifetime without a moment of regret. In Justice Roberts’ case if there wasn’t something personally on him, it might have been a family member. President Donald J Trump has shown people how they can fight back. Our side has to stop being drummed out by the Left. It’s their modis operandi. It doesn’t help that the squishy GOP lets our people fall.

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  13. beigun says:

    Monster by Steppenwolf:

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  14. Another Scott says:

    NSA data doesn’t include communication via ham radio does it?

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    • FofBW says:

      Anything is possible. All they have to do is monitor the HAM frequencies.

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    • Mickturn says:

      It’s in the air isn’t it? (obviously NSA is doing their scans on EVERYTHING!)

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    • andy says:

      Yes it does. Probably one of the first added. Satellites use shortwave. ships use longwave. Shortwave was the global internet, and kinda still is.

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      • Mark McQueen says:

        Exactly. Radio intercepts (counter intel) began as soon as radio came in use.

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        • Paco Loco says:

          As a licensed amateur radio operator since 1961, it’s pretty unlikely that the conspirators used long range high frequency short wave frequencies. Too many people out there listening on HF. VHF or UHF short range would be a more likely choice. But that too has lots of ears on the frequency bands. Burner cell phones would be my choice as they a cheap and disposable…plus no radio license required. Nellie Ohr getting a FCC ham license just after the Docier was released is indeed a mystery.

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          • Mark McQueen says:

            I agree. I think the contention that data collection in general includes the full spectrum is valid though.

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    • sandab00 says:

      they would capture it, certainly, but the way HAM works it provides a layer of anonymity that protects the parties talking.

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  15. Guffman says:

    To those trying to better understand the vast amount of data that the NSA collects on EVERYONE, I highly recommend watching “A Good American”, (which should be called “A Great American” IMO) a documentary focused on Bill Binney, one of the top NSA intelligence agents for decades, who got chased out by the black hats. A fascinating and very disturbing story…

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  16. fanbeav says:

    BREAKING=> FBI Agent at Mike Flynn Interrogation Is Ready to Testify Against McCabe, Strzok and Comey!

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/05/breaking-fbi-agent-at-mike-flynn-interrogation-is-ready-to-testify-against-mccabe-strzok-and-comey/

    Let the flood gates open!!!!!

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    • Stab, the unstoppable hero says:

      Great news. When his name was brought up last week thereabouts I wondered if anything might happen with him. There must have been dozens of “front line” agents ordered to participate in these nefarious black bag jobs. None of them has really popped up yet.
      I’m sure that under Comey the Whistleblower concept, at the FBI, was sorely compromised.

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    • Mickturn says:

      IT starts…the Pinko FBI slugs now are sucking WIND!

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    • Chickficshun says:

      I find gateway pundit not to be the most trustworthy on their news at times. While it may be FBI Special agents are ready to testify, no where has it been stated a particular agent is ready. Gatewsy Pundit is pro Trump but take with a grain of salt.

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      • andy says:

        I go there for hair trigger breaking news topics, and then yes… look at the sources and the actual words spoken.

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      • CNN_sucks says:

        TGP is hyper hair trigger but better than listening to Mika and her boyfriend. Watching MSNBC is like waterboarding.

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    • Lurker2 says:

      We know that on May 11 2018 Senator Grassley requested (among other things) that FBI Agent Pientka to be available for an interview. Joe DiGenova says Pientka complained about Strzok and McCabe to IG Horowitz, but I think he’s just theorizing, I don’t think he has any factual evidence of this.

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  17. Dutchman says:

    Seems to me, this illuminates HOW the uniparty ‘works’; not JUST John Roberts obummercare decision, but ALL the Rinos, the many who are leaving, chuckies line about how the IC can screw you 6 ways from Sunday.
    They could use this info to ‘get’ something on Repubs in R safe district, so after the R wins, he is blackmailed into going along to get along.
    Swamp is incredibly deep.
    Those who would exchange liberty for security will get neither.
    There could NEVER be sufficient safeguards to prevent abuse of such a system. Too much potential for abuse, and given the blantant politicisation and weaponising of EVERY Dept of executive, under O, this was giving kids keys to candy store.
    So, if understanding correctly, this is like cops wiretapping suspect w/out warrant, for months, and THEN getting warrant, after the fact?
    No wonder Rubio sweats so much, on camera, lol.

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    • Dixie says:

      ….. this is like cops wiretapping suspect w/out warrant, for months, and THEN getting warrant, after the fact?

      After setting you up because of something you said or someone you came in contact with. Greasy, slimy, slobbering a$$holes. For all the good it does, we’re on to them. Glad I have no power beyond anger.

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  18. Camilla Stephan says:

    What jumps out at e is that the DOJ in tomorrow’s meeting is represented by Edward O’ Callaghan, not RR or Sessions. Significant, no doubt…..

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    • phoenixRising says:

      Sessions is out of the Country…
      Rosie is about to resign (get canned)

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    • gnadfly says:

      Maybe some type of bureaucratic trick. I think many people in FBI and DOJ need to recuse themselves otherwise it’s the investigators investigating themselves. No bueno.

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  19. billrla says:

    Over-reliance on computers and the internet is eroding the human abiilty to think.
    …More data? Sure!
    …More analysis? Sure!
    …What does it all mean? I will have to get back to you, I’m busy collecting data.

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    • Mickturn says:

      Went through my ‘old stuff’ the other day and pulled out a K&E Slide Rule…of course my kids had no clue what it was. When I showed them (hadn’t used it in 40 years) how to use it I was amazed I remembered, they just said, My phone has a calculator. I challenged them to a race to do multiplication…I won. Not that this has anything to do with Computers it does point out how the young today are so dependent on computers of many kinds they can’t think their way out of a paper sack…with the end wide open!

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    • Molly Pitcher says:

      As all of this is revealed ,the corruption of govt agencies is horrifying to those of us who care about justice and truth. What of the millions of people who have literally become addicted to electronic devices. They’ve been told that the collection of their data is a good thing, not to worry because it’s “safe”. Probably the vast majority of them have no real idea of the extent of the abuses used to spy on candidate Trump or the plot to unseat President Trump because the sum total of their knowledge is a Yahoo or MSM headline which is always skewed info.

      In conjunction with the plot to compromise DJT the deep state laid down the psy op that Trump was evil, a nazi, a misogynist, etc fueled by OFA rallies, Media Matters internet assaults, MSM propaganda.
      Somehow it’s got to filter down to the generation whose lives revolve around electronics that it’s not just rich guys in suits that probably deserve to be spied on..it’s them too and that info can be accessed or manipulated at anytime .A lot of us used to get a chuckle that we needed to call the 6yr old to figure out something on the computer…now it’s not so cute to me anymore. .

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      • Zimbalistjunior says:

        Bingo. Although the next generations may be less susceptible to blackmail because they are so used to live their entire lives in public they have no shame.
        Which may be a good thing. Or not.

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  20. DanO64 says:

    He knew.

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  21. Zimbalistjunior says:

    SD sorry to go off topic but I suggest you link to mark steyn newest column tinker tailor etc. no real new news there but put together very entertainingly.

    I still love best the Madeline Albright revelations. Did HRC promise her a post maybe sec of state? Could we have had two handsome women of un certain age running and ruining our foreign policy?!

    Fer shame. For we failed feminism. (Or at least the second wave version of it).

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  22. NC Nana says:

    I didn’t know who Edward O’Callaghan was so I looked him up. According to the internet he “resigned from the US Attorney’s Office in July, 2008 to join John McCain’s presidential campaign.”

    The thought that he resigned from DOJ to join John McCain’s campaign was disturbing. What was more disturbing was that Rod Rosenstein’s press release didn’t mention that he joined the McCain campaign.

    What was even more disturbing than that was that he spent the next 9 years defending RICO and corruption cases.

    Is he meeting with Nunes to defend the DOJ/FBI RICO and corruption cases or to provide the requested documents? Not prosecuting, defending RICO and corruption.

    From the Rosenstein press release:

    “Before rejoining the Department of Justice in 2017, O’Callaghan was a partner at an international law firm. O’Callaghan specialized in defending financial institutions, public companies, asset management firms, and individuals in international and domestic regulatory investigations and criminal prosecutions. These cases involved securities fraud, bank fraud, money laundering, RICO, and corruption, among other things.”

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/deputy-attorney-general-rod-rosenstein-announces-edward-o-callaghan-acting-principal

    I now have more red flags than warm fuzzies about the DOJ rep. for tomorrow’s meeting.

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    • phoenixRising says:

      Don’t worry

      Ol’ Ed is an interim problem
      Cong Reps get the docs they want, Rosie is dead. He will resign, Ed will serve 24 hrs maybe… until POTUS appoints whomever he wants… then Mulehead will be gone soon after. Then The STORM hits.

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  23. youme says:

    Down the rabbit hole…

    The FBI was caught twice violating 702 minimization rules. The last time out the FBI claimed they made changes but could not reveal the changes because they classified them…

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/08/fbi-changes-privacy-rules-accessing-nsa-prism-data

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  24. kriseton says:

    Just for a bit of defense of the ‘system’ here…I actually worked in the NSA for several years when I was in the Navy. EVERYTHING is compartmentalized. There is no massive database that anyone can access everything. Yes, the database probably exists, but you are limited to what you can access based on the special access you have with a Top Secret clearance. I had several special access ‘codes’ that allowed me to do my work, in different SCIFs. The computer I worked on was only allowed to access information I needed to do my work. I also worked on a temporary project for several months..that was in a whole different space, with a whole different access with a different computer and different things I was allowed to access.

    Guess what? I couldn’t access the materials I used in one SCIF at the other SCIF. They just were not connected in that way.

    So although I can agree that it is possible for material to illegally accessed, the more likely scenario is that in certain SCIFs there were contractors who were told to dig up info THAT THEY WERE ALLOWED TO ACCESS. But they were not allowed to share it with anyone outside the SCIF they were working in. The criminal act would occur when that information was shared outside the ‘need-to-know’ circle. So, the NSA for sure knows what SCIFs have access to the materials, but if more than one SCIF accesses the same materials, see how it would be hard to know WHICH SCIF accessed them and used them illegally? If they were allowed to look at this database and use this database in their jobs, how could you determine which person allowed in that SCIF then removed materials illegally? Quite difficult.

    Anyway, that’s my two cents. It’s true that I worked there many years ago, but I know compartmentalization still exists, SCIF rules still exist, etc. Now, once you get higher up the chain and your various special accesses are larger in number, you can probably get into serious trouble if you wanted to. But average contractors? Their access would be limited to certain things, and it would be hard to remove it from the SCIF. It would have to be like Reality Winner who stuffed things in her pantyhose or someone bringing in a device or taking notes that they remove without someone noticing. Just FYI, I had my purse with me in the SCIF. No one took that away from me. If you really wanted to, you could possibly take a small notebook in there and scribble notes down…in fact they JUST arrested a contractor last week or the week before who did this VERY thing.

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    • Mickturn says:

      Compartmentalized Access goes out the window when POTUS authorizes ‘any access’…just sayin’…I’m sure Obey did that, ‘Any means to an end’.

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      • Paul Killinger says:

        For those interested in the “insanity theory” as to how all this took place, you needn’t look any farther than the Leader and his Candidate.

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    • phoenixRising says:

      You obviously didn’t read mat’l Sundance posted and SUGGESTED we read…
      might want to do so…

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      • kriseton says:

        I am telling you MY experience with compartmented information. There is NO fully open database to everything that anyone can access from a SCIF. Sorry. Doesn’t exist. You have to have ALL the special access codewords…and there are many, many, many, many, many. Sigh…Now, SAP is different. That would be at the Presidential level, what Hillary had, etc.

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      • kriseton says:

        FYI, my explanation 100% is supported by this statement: “We don’t actually have control over how this massive amount of meta-data is being used, searched, queried, and how the information within it is being filtered, minimized or extracted.”

        I said that different SCIFs provide different access to bits and pieces of the puzzle. Each SCIF would have different materials they could access (massive amount of meta-data) that is being ‘used, searched, queried’ in MULTIPLE SCIFs by MULTIPLE people with the clearance to access who could then “filter, minimize or extract” said information they have access to.

        What I’m pushing back against is the idea that many many low-level contractors in SCIFs have access to ALL the data (massive amount of meta-data). They don’t. They only have access to small pieces of the whole pie. HOWEVER, if you have SAP-level and have access to those SCIFs (of which I’m assuming there are very few), then YES you could possibly have access to more. But that would be only the higher level types like the President and his cabinet, etc. NOT regular contractors working in a SCIF.

        It would be easy enough, however, to have contractors in numerous SCIFs getting you what you wanted. Some might have access to Russian materials of a certain type, some might have access to materials from the UK, let’s say.

        It’s just not as simple as implied. That is what I’m saying.

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        • phoenixRising says:

          You never stated time frame for your experience…

          Obviously it was being abused, or Adm Rogers would not have shut it down

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    • Paul Killinger says:

      We should be grateful for all the complexity involved in utilizing the NSA’s data. One of our first clues in uncovering this cabal was when they ID’ed the WRONG Michael Cohen as having been in Prague.

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    • singular says:

      Lol. You reminded me of “Sandy Burglar” at, I think, the national archives, stuffing documents in his pants. Oh, but he was just “sloppy.”

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    • jeans2nd says:

      Was NSA storing data in the cloud at the time you utilized the DB? Doubtful, based on time frame you referenced. What DB were they using? Could you identify the mainframes and OS from looking at a terminal? (some of us are able to do that)

      What rights did the DB admin have? (admin = “god” to old-timers) To whom may admin grant those rights? Who oversees? Who controls? Is it all the same for military vs civilian?

      If there was a prob, did you follow the chain of command? Any military would be required to do that. Not so for civilian.
      What about the GSs? Who controlled GS access? Military? Civilian? Contractor?
      What about SIS (Senior Intelligence Service)? Who controlled SIS access? What authorities do SIS have?

      There are many many other questions, kriseton, that need be considered. Pls do not assume your experience several years ago is the norm. Your experience may be the norm for most, esp military, but has no bearing whatsoever on military brass, SIS, and civilian contractors.
      All the best.

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      • kriseton says:

        The cloud has nothing to do with it. Access is access. There is no fully open database such as described that wouldn’t fall under compartmentalization procedures. PERIOD. There is no clearance you can hold that would allow that. The only one I can think of that might come close would be SAP. And that is reserved for the highest levels of government…unless Obama was handing that out like candy. I don’t know if that is possible, but if that is the case, then, yes, that might be possible. I am pointing out MY experience. How it was at the NSA where I worked for 3 1/2 years. The systems they had in place were complex. There is no big open workspace. There is no universal access from compartmented SCIFs to one massive database, or what would be the point of compartmented SCIFs?

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        • kriseton says:

          And further, why do you assume some DB admin has access to all? Why in the holy hell would the IC create that? It would fall so far outside minimization standards it is laughable. There would be no big DB person (except maybe at the HIGHEST level, which would then possibly fall under SAP, as I stated earlier) who would be able to access everything. You do realize they work in SCIFs that have certain accesses only. You wouldn’t have a SCIF that is cleared for certain things ONLY and then have access to all. It just makes no sense. So the idea that some contractor at the bottom of the heap can look a whole database is crap. It just is.

          However, I certainly look at the recent arrest of a contractor employee who worked for a company who did access materials at the NSA, and he was arrested b/c he took notes in a notebook and took that notebook home. That I can imagine happening in MANY SCIF spaces with many contractors who all have access to different pieces. But one little DB guy would NOT have access to all.

          You can discount that if you wish, but only the highest level would have that access. Maybe flunkies were given SAP level who shouldn’t have. Now that I could believe…

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        • jeans2nd says:

          answering this would require more than one’s clearance allows. have it your way.
          some of us know the truth

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  25. DanO64 says:

    They are busted and they know it. The only question is who will get the blame.

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  26. jstanley01 says:

    Re: “The NSA is essentially admitting to being overwhelmed with the scale of the data being collected, and they are similarly overwhelmed by the number of people who have access to this data.”

    The DEA has been using NSA data to make drug busts for the better part of a decade, using what they call “parallel construction” to hide their tracks.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-dea-sod/exclusive-u-s-directs-agents-to-cover-up-program-used-to-investigate-americans-idUSBRE97409R20130805

    “Exclusive: U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans
    “John Shiffman, Kristina Cooke
    “AUGUST 5, 2013

    “WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A secretive U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration unit is funneling information from intelligence intercepts, wiretaps, informants and a massive database of telephone records to authorities across the nation to help them launch criminal investigations of Americans.

    “Although these cases rarely involve national security issues, documents reviewed by Reuters show that law enforcement agents have been directed to conceal how such investigations truly begin – not only from defense lawyers but also sometimes from prosecutors and judges…”

    We do well to remind ourselves that the violations of our constitutional rights by government operatives will always be aimed at “bad guys” initially. Then all the Deep State has to do is expand the definition of who a “bad guy” is. To, oh, say, Donald Trump.

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  27. KeithBB says:

    I thought this was an interesting attempt to diffuse the ongoing news and revelations about the FBI/CIA/DOJ/Obama White House efforts. Reminded me a little of Comey’s comments today. And Brennan’s. And Clapper’s. The whole story is ‘insane’.
    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/trumps-fbi-russia-scandal-spy-theory-mueller-insane.html

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  28. Paul Killinger says:

    I now believe I’ve changed my mind about the need for the appointment of a second Special Counsel…

    Certainly Mr Huber and the other US Attorneys assigned to conducting these investigations of Govt wrongdoing are competent to clear out the criminal debris.

    But having followed this massive Govt intrusion into the lives of many ordinary Americans, those prosecutions won’t begin to explain what happened to the individuals targeted, nor serve as an impediment for those in Govt from repeating such actions the “next time” they please.

    And the very last thing I need is a Govt bureaucrat, namely DOJ-AG Sessions, from unilaterally “deciding” what of this information is “fit” or “unfit” for my ears. And by keeping such evidence under his control, that is inevitably what will take place.

    So while the appointment of another Special Counsel is far from a panacea, it appears to be the best option for us to “learn our lessons” here. That and President Trump declassifying and publishing ALL the documents involved at its conclusion.

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  29. Donzo says:

    Rosenstein has given Mueller and his team such expanded powers he can continue his fishing expedition indefinitely. I remember years ago, we used to take fishing boats out past the 10 mile mark off of Jersey and use floods to catch blues. You catch my drift. It seems the only thing in his way is the effect this witch hunt has on public opinion and it hasn’t been a winner for them. Mueller reputation is mud. But that hasn’t stopped the media either. Sessions may be recused, but he can order a review of the legality of the original appointment, or conversely, he can ask the court to rule on the constitutionality of the appointment, a risky move perhaps. Or the Flynn Manafort cases will implode and he’ll pack it up. I doubt it though. Looks to me like Mueller is going for broke and who knows at this point what evidence he may manufacture. He has to be put down, figuratively.

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    • phoenixRising says:

      Rosenstein has given Mueller and his team such expanded powers he can continue his fishing expedition indefinitely.

      One cannot GIVE what one does not have.
      Rosie has been so drunk on power he assumed he is President.
      Not the sharpest tool in the shed…

      Only POTUS can give Mueller et al the powers Rosie presumed he could give.

      The SC is illegal… from inception… with a bevy of illegal actions. Join the twitter message or email instagram whatever… Mueller SC illegal

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  30. Hmmm... says:

    If the Guardian was correct on Jan 10, 2017 then the NSA intercepts being revealed is probably what’s at stake in the current request for documents.

    The Guardian has learned that the FBI applied for a warrant from the foreign intelligence surveillance (Fisa) court over the summer in order to monitor four members of the Trump team suspected of irregular contacts with Russian officials. The Fisa court turned down the application asking FBI counter-intelligence investigators to narrow its focus. According to one report, the FBI was finally granted a warrant in October, but that has not been confirmed, and it is not clear whether any warrant led to a full investigation.

    If they submitted a FISA request in the summer it would most likely contain NSA intercept information. Most critically for Papadapolous. He was emailing campaign members about Russian meetings before the NSA spigot was shut off according to the indictment. I’m sure they didn’t identify the source of that information in the application but I would guess that it is in there and would be relatively simple to figure out where it came from since there was no possible excuse for them to have it legally.

    I think Nunes is seeking the first failed FISA warrant application.

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    • phoenixRising says:

      No doubt about what Nunes/Gowdy are seeking… stated in his letters previously submitted to DoJ… withheld by Rosie, who has the most to lose by their revelations. Rosie will be stepping down on Friday, if not Thursday pm

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  31. “Agency controls for monitoring query compliance have not been completely developed.”

    Dear America, we, your elected government, charged ahead to gather every minutiae of your daily lives before we had established a rigorous framework to protect your privacy. Now that you’ve all been compromised, we’re starting to think about building a fence around the paddock.

    This was, at a minimum, putting the cart before the horse and who’s even sure they like the cart yet? The Deep (Surveillance) State has always worked for itself. This is not for US. This is for THEM.

    There’s always been a somewhat artificial (or belated) outrage about the FISA abuses when as Bill Binney has said the NDSA has everything from the IC Reach program which requires no oversight from Congressional committees nor FISA courts. So we’re sort of selectively expressing outrage at a leak in the dyke when the whole back end of it is washed out.

    Let me make a final controversial point probably for many in this audience. Of course Obama et al should go to jail. But the Obama administration only happened to be on the job when much of this surveillance power came on-line. Careful with assigning partisan-driven blame. The problem again is systemic, overarching and Uniparty-driven.

    as SD says:

    “What stands between this massive surveillance system being used/abused for those political purposes or not?
    Nothing.
    Really.
    Unless you want to define self-restraint and the morality of the person who has access as an impediment.”

    Our system is based on checks and balances and the inherent evil of ALL people who wield unchecked power. Like the Founding Fathers, I don’t believe in ‘self-restraint’ and ‘morality’ mixed with limitless power.

    The thing is, this will never be pulled out by the roots. The technology isn’t going anywhere and will simply go underground if the Intelligence agencies become legally sanctioned against using it. The argument will be, and it’s not a bad one, what about the Russians and the Chinese?

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  32. Summer says:

    The whole thing is violating our Constitutional rights in every possible way,
    The NSA Database must be bleachbitted, hard drives hammered Clinton-style, the facilities nuked, the agency disbanded. The Patriot Act must be repealed, and the creation of any such act in the future must be prohibited. That’s the only solution to the problem called Police State.

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    • billrla says:

      Summer: Agreed, except for the fact that everyone’s retirement portfolio depends on Amazon, Google (Alphabet) and FaceBook continuing to rise, forever, and FedGov has been an excellent customer for cloud services, search engines, etc.

      That said, we need to unwind the most egregious assaults on the U.S. Constitution, starting with the cynically named Patriot Act.

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    • Donzo says:

      All that metadata is like nuclear weapons. If we bleachbit it, the only ones who will have will be our foreign adversaries.

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    • wendy forward says:

      Don’t forget sowing the ground with salt!

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  33. scott467 says:

    “There is a meeting scheduled tomorrow between key congressional oversight committee heads (Nunes, Gowdy etc.) and leadership of the FBI (Director Wray), DOJ (Edward O’Callaghan) and ODNI (Dan Coats).”

    _________________

    So Gowdy is attending as a representative for the Deep State, to protect their interests, I take it.

    Do everything possible to protect the traitors, and then talk real big about how they’re going to get to the bottom of everything, just like he did with Benghazi.

    Just like they did with IRS.

    Just like the did with Fast and Furious.

    I thought Gowdy was leaving.

    Just another lie, apparently.

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    • phoenixRising says:

      First time I have evah disagreed w/ you Scott…

      Nunes is a great guy, not an attorney (he’s a farmer)
      Gowdy, an atty, has assisted Nunes numerous times.

      Gowdy is not running for re-election to Congress.

      What was Gowdy supposed to do w/ regards to Fast and Furious, when Speaker of the House, a fellow Republican, was covering for Holder et al? What was Gowdy supposed to do w/ regard to HRC and Bengazi, which was part and partial of a corrupt weaponized Zero administration.

      POTUS is doing his best to drain the swamp … no Congressman could have done it alone.
      Think about it.

      Trust the Plan… POTUS’ Plan.

      Rosie will be recused after meeting on Thurs. – at least by the weekend.
      Ol Ed is the snake in this group – Rosie’s hand groomed right hand (according to Rosie)
      but he is definitely interim (like 24 hrs.) until POTUS appoints his man/woman (already confirmed, if out of line of succession…)

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    • Paul Killinger says:

      Like Ryan, the Globalists are requiring Gowdy to stay on through this year to provide them time to groom their replacements.

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      • Lurker2 says:

        There was talking last night on Hannity that our great ally Jim Jordan might be the next Speaker. This would be fantastic. But we have to make sure the House maintains its majority.

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  34. TMonroe says:

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/12/26/my-oh-my-latest-reports-of-fbi-doj-counterintelligence-operation-evelyn-farkas-statements-take-on-new-light/

    “I was urging my former colleagues, and, and frankly speaking the people on the Hill [Democrat politicians], it was more actually aimed at telling the Hill people, get as much information as you can – get as much intelligence as you can – before President Obama leaves the administration.

    Because I had a fear that somehow that information would disappear with the senior [Obama] people who left; so it would be hidden away in the bureaucracy, um, that the Trump folks – if they found out HOW we knew what we knew about their, the Trump staff, dealing with Russians – that they would try to compromise those sources and methods; meaning we no longer have access to that intelligence.” — Evelyn Farkas

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    • JK says:

      “Bug eyes’ Evelyn Farkas – too stupid for words.
      Perhaps we should put her in a cell next to that icon of stupidity, James the Clapper.

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    • Mark McQueen says:

      In the case of Ms. Farkas, the Prosecution rests.

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    • fred5678 says:

      The quote above leaves out the very last sentence from thE video interview, when Farkas (is that a made-up name from an SNL character???) says.

      “That’s why you have the leaking.” (SIC) UNBELIEVABLE!!!

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    • Roberto says:

      Where does the Deep State find such idiots? Can you even imagine Bill Casey, Allen Dulles or Richard Helms hiring such organic morons or doing anything as ineptly as this whole thing? (This is NOT an endorsement of any of these men). My personal theory is that this is what happens when social promotion meets affirmative action meets complexion-based hiring meets the Peter Principle. Obama is the exemplar of each of these things. Writ large.

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  35. waltherppk says:

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  36. scott467 says:

    “For those who don’t read it, a quick summary would be: We don’t actually have control over how this massive amount of meta-data is being used, searched, queried, and how the information within it is being filtered, minimized or extracted.”

    _____________________

    Throughout the history of mankind in this world, every single time men have been entrusted with great power, it has been abused.

    This is because all men are fallible and subject to temptation.

    That includes the good guys, like King David. And we only know what David did because the LORD had it recorded, in Scripture, and preserved for posterity, for our benefit and learning (cf. Romans 15:4).

    For the most part, we can only imagine what the bad guys throughout history have done. Most men are already corrupt before they ever get to a position of power, or they wouldn’t be in a position of power in the first place.

    The NSA is an information gathering agency, an information storage agency, and an information utilization agency.

    Information is power.

    And they have it all.

    And if anyone thinks that power will not be abused, regularly, for as long as that agency or any like it exists, they are fooling themselves. And the men who created that agency, and others like it before, knew it full well, or they were too ignorant to have ever created such agencies in the first place.

    No law can ever prevent abuse, because law does not change the nature and character of man.

    The nature and character of man is to simply change the law.

    When they bother to pay attention to the law at all.

    Our Founding Fathers understood all of this, and it is that understanding which caused them to write our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution and our Bill of Rights in the way that they did.

    And the things which the NSA, the CIA, the FIB and all of the other secretive agencies do, everyday, is violate our Rights and the Constitution, on a scale that can scarcely be comprehended.

    Things like ‘The Patriot Act’ should be called by its rightful name, the ‘Treason Act’.

    All done in the name of ‘security’.

    Anything for ‘security’.

    Which ultimately means ‘slavery for security’.

    But slavery is not secure, and never has been.

    …………………………………..
    “He who would give up a little liberty for a little security deserves neither and will lose both” — Benjamin Franklin
    …………………………………..

    We have given up nearly ALL of our liberty, and in exchange for what?

    Never have we been less secure, than the 8 years of institutional Treason under Hussein.

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  37. Dutchman says:

    Yes, all the concerns about concern for threatening natl. Security, by revraling sources and methods takes on a new meaning. It SOUNDS like valerie plame stuff, i.e. exposing human assets.
    What they are REALLY talking about is exposing, not to our enemies, hell they probably have access, but to American people, not just this collection capability, but the politisation of it.
    For the very reasons expressed here; its inevitable if you have this capacity in the hands of the executive, that it will be abused.
    Is it coincidence that hollywood has been prepping us for years, “enemy of the state”, “bourne” franchise.
    Movies SEEMED to be showing the excesses/abuse of such systems, but perhaps like the meteor gonna hit earth, they were just preparing us to accept, boiling frog slowly?
    This reminds me of watergate hearings, and moment when agent butterfield testified on the existence of ‘secret’ taping system in oval office.
    For youngsters DIDNT see, of those who don’t remember; the COMMITEE ( senators and staff) had known about this for MONTHS, but was playing it out, for public.
    Similarly, net players, DJT, Congress, etc. have known all along about this,
    Its like we are watching a soap opera, or game of thrones tv series. We all get caught up in argueing ovrr the latest episode: will jessica found out mark slept with her sister, etc. But, the whole series has already been filmed; its IN THE CAN. We are just watching it play out, drip, drip drip. Episode by episode.
    THIS may well be at the heart of the battle between white hats and black hats, much as agent butterfields revelation about the taping sydtem in oval office, and arguments over access to tapes, etc. became key to what started out as “3rd rate burglary”.
    So, guesz we’ll all have to ‘stay tuned’?

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  38. jus wundrin says:

    The major red flag with obama was that he started his political career with the help of two terrorists: dorn and ayers. This in itself would have caused an engaged constituency to give him a big thumbs down. Unfortunately, too many voters have become too apathetic about political processes, and care more about trivial things than those things of reality that WILL affect their lives. The only time that this came up during the 08′ election was when clintoon pal stephanopoulos asked obama about this in an interview, and obamas “just another guy in the neighborhood” answer was good enough for ABC. When it comes to politics, we are our own worst enemy.

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    • Zimbalistjunior says:

      Well in Obama’s defense he was probably sent to befriend them by his masters in the CIA. Obama has been in the agency from day one. As was his mother and grandparents before him.

      Which explains pretty much everything.

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      • Alligator Gar says:

        And the thoroughly whipped American electorate wouldn’t dare NOT vote for historic Mr. O, now would they? We have become a nation of emotionally charged sheep.

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  39. PDQ says:

    Can’t query a database if you don’t have access to the schema…WHY DID THEY NOT CONTROLLING THAT ACCESS?
    Lame excuses…

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  40. CopperTop says:

    GOTCHA …GOT ALLOFYOOS

    THIS Daily caller today “Papadopoulos lied when he told agents that he was in contact with Mifsud and two Russian nationals prior to joining the campaign in March 2016. The Trump aide actually met Mifsud on March 14, 2016, just a week before President Trump identified Papadopoulos as a member of his national security advisory team.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/23/mueller-sentencing-papadopoulos/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=site-share

    Bryon York alluded to this period of Trump identifying who his advisors were as being critical for the narrative of when the operation against Trump began and who it originates with. Papa was caught in a lie because Mueller already knew that the BO administration had a very tight timeline on when PAGE could have entered the campaign…

    So if Papa was lying because he was already an aide then SO would be anyone who said PAGE was not an agent of our government when he joined the campaign.

    GOTCHA SALLY

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    • Lurker2 says:

      Not refuting what you wrote, just commenting here. Mueller is upset because Papadopoulos said he met with Mifsud before he started working for the Trump campaign when actually it was after. But it must have been only days after. According to the official charging document (I guess that’s what this is) https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download:

      In truth and in fact, however, defendant PAPADOPOULOS learned he would be an advisor to the Campaign in early March, and met the processor on or about March 14, 2016

      The document says that on or about March 6 2016 Papadopoulos understood that a principal foreign policy focus of the Campaign was an improved U.S. relationship with Russia

      So Papadopoulos joined the campaign after March 6 I guess and he met with Mifsud on March 14. I don’t know if I’m going to criticize someone who confused two events on a timeline that were 8 or fewer days apart.

      BTW, Trump didn’t make his public announcement that Papadopoulos was on board with the campaign until March 21 2016. I guess because the FBI was already spying on Papadopoulos they knew the exact timeline.

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      • Lurker2 says:

        I think the FBI deliberately targeted Papadopoulos and Page because they were not well-established, not wealthy, and would be easy to pick off and use to support the ruse. Low-hanging fruit, not in terms of securing convictions but in terms of being tools.

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        • DanO64 says:

          Page has bucks. Not mega wealthy, but not hurting either. I think he is a FBI Rent-a-Stooge if you ask me.

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          • Lurker2 says:

            In his testimony he complained that he was nearly homeless. He didn’t even have an attorney representing him. He hadn’t had a paying job in like a year. Just wondering what you have seen that tells you something different than that.

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  41. Bamalaker says:

    “all of the non-preferred presidential candidates were under electronic surveillance by people in and outside of government who had access to this holy grail of opposition research.”

    Yep yep yep. I’ve been waiting for us to get around to this. Oh, the masks that will fall.

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  42. Chickficshun says:

    I can’t reconcile Rosenstein as being a white hat. No matter which way I look at it. His enabling of Mueller witch hunt, the gross abuse of the SC, a white hat would not allow this.
    Maybe Sundance can elaborate on this.
    Now we’re seeing an emergence of Ed O’ Callaghan, RR right hand guy. I’ve read conflicting stories on him.

    Sessions really needs to get back into the US and get a handle on his department. Appearance of non bias doesn’t matter, because it makes no difference to the left, they will always scream and bitch.

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    • Roberto says:

      I was willing to keep an open mind, but VSG omitting him from tomorrow’s security summit with Wray, Nunes, et. al. That tells me everything I need to know. Don’t get me wrong, I think Rod Ro served a specific purpose for VSG, but now, like Page and Baker, there’s nothing more he needs from him.

      Knowing how government works, I’m pretty certain that VSG omitting Rod Ro in this meeting is tantamount to calling for him to quit via public humiliation.

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      • Lurker2 says:

        I think someone gave Trump some bad advice about Rosenstein. I notice that Rosenstein is a graduate of Wharton too, like Trump. Rosenstein probably leveraged that to get in, then turned around and stabbed Trump in the back. When he was making the rounds of the Democrats trying to get enough votes for confirmation, he promised he would appoint a Special Counsel. That’s all we need to know. Not sure why he felt it necessary to get rid of Comey, probably wanted Mueller in that spot, and as soon as it was obvious Mueller wouldn’t be in it Rosenstein appointed Mueller Special Counsel. Straight up swamp move.

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      • DanO64 says:

        Disagree. SD put Rosenstein’s picture with the Presidential cufflinks up for a reason. It’s a frick’n hint!

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  43. fred5678 says:

    Sharyl Attkisson’s article today is very timely:

    8 signs pointing to a counterintelligence operation deployed against Trump’s campaign

    It may be true that President Trump illegally conspired with Russia and was so good at covering it up he’s managed to outwit our best intel and media minds who’ve searched for irrefutable evidence for two years. (We still await special counsel Robert Mueller’s findings.)

    But there’s a growing appearance of alleged wrongdoing equally as insidious, if not more so, because it implies widespread misuse of America’s intelligence and law enforcement apparatus.

    Here are eight signs pointing to a counterintelligence operation deployed against Trump for political reasons.

    LINK:

    http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/388978-growing-signs-of-a-counterintelligence-operation-deployed-against-trumps

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  44. Matt G says:

    So if contractors have unfettered access to this level of intel, would it be a stretch to say the Ruskies/Chinese/Iranians also have access? I mean why invest years in cloak and dagger spy craft to get 3 year old cheese when corruptible contractors living abroad get fresh cream directly from the cow.

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  45. SD and several others keep alluding to JP Carlin being a “person of interest” in this mess. By chance, if Carlin flips I think he himself could bring down the entire house of cards – quickly. He can tie together most all of the higher-ups. Am I on to something here or am I sniffing around the wrong tree trunk – – again!

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  46. Martin says:

    Q has directly addressed this meeting, yesterday…
    ——-

    Q !CbboFOtcZs ID: fe402e No.1509322 📁
    May 22 2018 16:29:23 (EST)
    UNITY NOT DIVISION.
    Last post was simply for IDEN_reconf.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/22/fbi-doj-to-brief-lawmakers-on-handling-russia-probe-on-thursday.html📁
    Who is missing from the scheduled meeting?
    [RR]
    Who is Ed O’Callahan?
    “Acting”
    [Ed]
    DECLAS_
    Pain.
    Enjoy the show.
    Q

    ——-
    The “last post” bit refers to photos from AF1 from 11/17 to demonstrate to the doubters that he’s real, the same, and has been there.

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  47. The Great Kazoo says:

    I knew this would happen just as soon as they laid out the “patriot” act.

    They were just spying like crazy without even getting any warrants.
    Thank God Rodgers shut them down.

    That much information = power.
    It attracts megalomaniacs like a super magnet.

    The human psyche is to weak to put that kind of power where control freaks can get their hands on it.

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  48. Best line: “It is easier to seek forgiveness than to ask for permission.”

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  49. Rob Smith says:

    How does this narrative sound?

    “Carlin essentially did a “kamikaze dive” in assuring the Obama administration’s “insurance policy” against the election of Donald Trump would move forward. Carlin withheld from the FISA court critical details of an NSA Inspector General report, and an ongoing Compliance review, that the FBI and its contractors were engaged in Fourth Amendment violations of the rights of Americans. Carlin quit just days before the FISA warrant on Carter Page was submitted and approved. Two days later, the NSA informed the Court that the Obama Department of Justice and FBI had been abusing the FISA process since at least 2011. The warrant approved two days earlier against Carter Page gave the FBI FISA Title I authority throughout the duration of the Trump transition, and authority to apply the same extensive intrusions upon anyone Carter Page had phone, email or text contact with.”

    Feel free to tweek it for accuracy.

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