Ohr What? Senator Chuck Grassley Requests Documents on Mysteriously Invisible DOJ Deputy…

Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley wants to know about the documents he footnoted back on March 15th, 2018, pertaining to DOJ Deputy Bruce Ohr.  A letter today to DAG Rod Rosenstein outlines the request:

(Grassley Pdf Links)

On the DOJ National Security Division side of Main Justice, attorney Bruce Ohr remains employed, but invisible; likely under tight investigative controls.  Much like FBI Agent Peter Strzok, Mr. Ohr possesses key knowledge related to the National Security Division of the DOJ. In addition, Mr. Ohr had interactions with Christopher Steele and more importantly Fusion-GPS and founder Glenn Simpson.

It is not coincidental that Ohr was demoted twice, yet his overall employment never terminated.

Mr. Bruce Ohr possesses key knowledge related to the National Security Division of the DOJ. In addition Mr. Ohr had interactions with Christopher Steele and more importantly Fusion-GPS and founder Glenn Simpson.  Again, it is ABSOLUTELY not coincidental that Ohr was demoted twice, yet his overall employment never terminated.

As noted in (page 5, footnote 5) Brue Ohr, and possibly his wife, Nellie Ohr, have been questioned by FBI internal investigators at least twelve times:

Ohr FD-302 12/19/16 (interview date 11/22/16);
Ohr FD-302 12/19/16 (interview date 12/05/16);
Ohr FD-302 12/19/16 (interview date 12/12/16);
Ohr FD-302 12/27/16 (interview date 12/20/16);
Ohr FD-302 01/27/17 (interview date 01/27/17);
Ohr FD-302 01/31/17 (interview date 01/23/17);
Ohr FD-302 01/27/17 (interview date 01/25/17);
Ohr FD-302 02/08/17 (interview date 02/06/17);
Ohr FD-302 02/15/17 (interview date 02/14/17);
Ohr FD-302 05/10/17 (interview date 05/08/17);
Ohr FD-302 05/12/17 (interview date 05/12/17);
Ohr FD-302 05/16/17 (interview date 05/15/17).

Notice: Ohr was interviewed after the election four times [November 22nd, December: 5th, 12th, 20th, 2016] by the Obama FBI.

During those four 2016 interviews: President Obama, James Comey (FBI), Andrew McCabe (FBI), Loretta Lynch (DOJ), Sally Yates (DOJ), James Baker (FBI), Peter Strzok (FBI), Lisa Page (FBI), Jim Rybicki (FBI), Mary McCord (DOJ), Mike Kortan (FBI), Bill Priestap (FBI) and David Laufman (DOJ) were all still in place. The Inspector General investigation had not yet begun.

The timing of the first Ohr interview, November 22, 2016, is four days after NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers secretly went to see president-elect Trump in Trump Tower.

SIDEBAR – Question(s): Why was the FBI interviewing Bruce Ohr in 2016? Who, specifically, was interviewing Bruce Ohr in 2016 and for what purpose? [The IG investigation did not begin until mid January 2017]

Bruce Ohr and Nellie Ohr connect the activity from the DOJ (national security division) and FBI (counterintelligence division) together with Fusion GPS (Nellie’s 2016 employer, Glenn Simpson) and Christopher Steele (the recipient of the unwashed intelligence product).

Bruce Ohr is still employed by the DOJ.  Bruce Ohr can identify the motives of John P Carlin (former DOJ-NSD head), along with Mary McCord (she replaced Carlin October 2016), Sally Yates (ran the big overall picture of the DOJ-NSD and protected the NSD from inspector general oversight); as well as Loretta Lynch.

During the 2015 and 2016 activities of the DOJ-NSD Bruce Ohr was the #4 person in the Main Justice hierarchy [1. Lynch, 2. Yates, 3.Carlin/McCord, then 4. Ohr].

 

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163 Responses to Ohr What? Senator Chuck Grassley Requests Documents on Mysteriously Invisible DOJ Deputy…

  1. andy says:

    To Expand…. It appears Trump revealed to RR that the military has gathered all the evidence there is, knows all, and RR should comply and the cards fall where they fall

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  2. jmclever says:

    Grassley is laying the groundwork for some serious moves! since Sessions is recused, would it be Rosenstein who gets impeached for contempt of Congress by repeatedly failing to comply?

    Liked by 9 people

  3. Good Job! says:

    Q said new Strzok-Page texts would show threats of assassination to Trump.

    Wrong again!

    Q is a quack and has always been.

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    • andy says:

      Post in question was a question.
      What would happen if texts originating from a FBI agent to several [internals] discussed the assassination (possibility) of the POTUS or member of his family?
      What if the texts suggest foreign allies were involved?
      Forget the Russia set up [1 of 22].
      This is only the beginning.
      Be careful what you wish for.
      AS THE WORLD TURNS.
      Could messages such as those be publicly disclosed?
      What happens to the FBI?
      What happens to the DOJ?
      What happens to special counsel?
      What happens in general?
      Every FBI/DOJ prev case could be challenged.
      Lawless.
      Think logically.
      We haven’t started the drops re: human trafficking / sacrifices [yet]

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      • Good Job! says:

        So it was a “question” not posing as secret knowledge which backs up the rest of the post that he’s just guessing at things in an overwrought style.

        Q has been more wrong on 4chan than the “Wictor” character on twitter is on middle eastern warfare.

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        • albrevin says:

          no opinion here on ‘Q’ but I don’t doubt for a minute that electronic communications exist that show discussions of assassination. I would be shocked if those types of messages don’t exist.

          Just look at the level of hatred from some of these people towards not just PDJT but the American people, as well…… deplorable, irredeemable, smelly, Wal Mart…. everything from John Brennan, Eric Holder, Sally Yates. These people, support unfettered abortion, have a level of uncontrolled rage not seen since de Fuhrer, spy on and extort…. it would be as natural as snow in winter in Vail CO for these people to be discussing assassination.

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        • Sharon says:

          Do you actually think if their texts showed discussion about assassination of Trump or his family they would show the public that? It would be blacked out for the public or never revealed to the public Duh! Q would not mention it if it actually wasn’t true or if he just questioned it!
          These evil scums would do that! Haven’t you learned anything yet?

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        • trialbytruth says:

          Really well putting Q aside are you an expert on the middle East. Because wictors deduction carry alot more weight then your critique.

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    • Good Job! says:

      Why was the FBI interviewing Bruce Ohr in 2016?

      That’s a very good and tough question.

      I think it has to be internal. My wild guess–someone inside complained about using Steele’s work. Perhaps the same person who precipitated the FBI going to Steele directly and trying to pay him to “corroborate” the previous memos. (Priestap?)

      The did the FBI pay Steele at some time or not is still up in the air for me.

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    • Sharon says:

      You are the one who is wrong!

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    • scott467 says:

      “Q is a quack and has always been.”

      _________________

      How much time have you spent examining the Q posts?

      This isn’t so difficult to get our arms around.

      There are essentially three possibilities, but if Q is NOT legitimately associated with the DJT administration then there are essentially two possibilities:

      1) Q is a friendly LARP

      2) Q is a hostile LARP / psy-op, posing as an extension of the administration

      If Q is a LARP (friendly or hostile), it is the biggest, most successful LARP in the history of the Internet, pulling the wool over the eyes millions of people, including a group of people (Alt-right, alt-media, 4-chan / 8-chan types) who pride themselves on their research and ability to sniff out frauds and liars.

      That’s not nothing. That’s pretty big. It’s complex. It’s ongoing. It is certainly a team activity, being too large in scope to be managed by an individual, so that also makes it a conspiracy.

      ….. A) if Q is a friendly LARP, it is a rogue operation which

      …….. a1) could compromise actual operations (bad), and

      …….. a2) the activities of Q reflect on the actual administration to the extent that millions of DJT supporters believe Q is working on behalf of the administration (bad)

      …….. B) if Q is a hostile LARP,

      …….. b1) he’s doing a great job of awakening millions of Americans to all sorts of things they never thought about before, and all of it is detrimental to the Deep State / Globalists / Marxists / Uni-Party, so if it is a hostile LARP, it is inflicting significant damage on their own interests — which would be counterproductive at best

      …….. b2) a hostile LARP not only could compromise legitimate administration operations, but would actively be seeking to do so. Why would the administration allow it to continue?

      .

      It should go without saying that the Trump administration:

      A) is certainly aware of Q,

      and

      B) could shut Q down immediately, if they wanted to

      The NSA / military intelligence certainly has the technical capability to shut Q down, but even if they didn’t, DJT could do it himself, simply by sending a Tweet to his 20+ million Twitter followers, denouncing Q as a fraud or a hostile operation, and Q’s audience (and influence) is gone.

      Instantly.

      This has not happened.

      So what fits best?

      Which one can be reconciled with the administration’s response, or lack thereof, to Q?

      1) Q is a friendly LARP

      2) Q is a hostile LARP, posing as an extension of the administration

      3) Q is exactly what he/they claim to be

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  4. lastinillinois says:

    If Ohr was being interviewed in Dec 2016, that would’ve been McCabe or Comey, or maybe Strzok?

    To get their stories straight?

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    • Carrie says:

      That’s what I was thinking too. That’s one heck of a list of guilty parties in attendance. What a great cover to scheme under the cover of having an “interview”.

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    • moonpup says:

      At that point they knew they were toast

      Liked by 4 people

      • Cpdesert says:

        For some reason I’m reminded of when post office employee Newman interrogated Jerry Seinfeld under bright lights over alleged mail fraud and of course Newman was the one who caved.

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      • Jedi9 says:

        My question to Bruce Ohr is: “You got to sleep with that every night?” Yikes! I would be scared too!

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    • Linus in W.PA. says:

      If they were all fellow travelers, why document things with the 302 forms?

      Could he have somehow been snared in Adm. Roger’s audit of the system? I think Adm. Rogers halted the contractor access after his audit which was earlier in ’16???

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      • cali says:

        @Linus in W.PA.: ^^^^^^^This! 🙂
        Yep in a nutshell Nellie was cut off by Rogers ergo running immediately to the white house having a 14 hours meeting.

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    • @lastinillinois
      The first three 302’s were written on 12/19 though the interviews took place 27, 14, and 7 days earlier respectively. The fourth 302 was written 7 days after the interview.
      I would hazard the following guess……”Ohr is a danger to us, let’s have a chat to him and set him up with some dodgy 302’s in case the proverbial hits the fan”.
      Recall that the Flynn 302 was written a few days after the interview and is full of lies and omissions.

      I think Ohr realised he was set up. That’s why he flipped so easily. The first Trump era interview took place just 3 days after inauguration on 1/23.
      The dates of interviews and 302 write-ups are interesting to me.

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      • wolfmoon1776 says:

        WOW. I think you’re onto it. This makes TONS of sense. This is the usual Deep State method – set up underlings. BOOM.

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      • PS says:

        Most of these interviews are all in the Strzok/Page text timeframe. Is there anything that corresponds to the dates above? If they are trying to get the story straight, shoudn’t Team Page/Strozk be chatting about it?

        Ohr FD-302 12/19/16 (interview date 11/22/16); no
        Ohr FD-302 12/19/16 (interview date 12/05/16); no
        Ohr FD-302 12/19/16 (interview date 12/12/16); no
        Ohr FD-302 12/27/16 (interview date 12/20/16); no
        Ohr FD-302 01/27/17 (interview date 01/27/17); day of “it begins” text
        Ohr FD-302 01/31/17 (interview date 01/23/17); “this has the potential to go off the rails”
        Ohr FD-302 01/27/17 (interview date 01/25/17); no
        Ohr FD-302 02/08/17 (interview date 02/06/17);
        Ohr FD-302 02/15/17 (interview date 02/14/17); “we have the results of the interviews” “Andy good with the F 302” message
        Ohr FD-302 05/10/17 (interview date 05/08/17); many many many texts. “getting a new phone this morning”, Page is “done with the greater good”. comment about calling Rosenstein, the “A/AAG not the DAG anymore”, “need to open the case”, Comey fired. 5/10 “Gmail”, TV appearances

        Ohr FD-302 05/12/17 (interview date 05/12/17); yes, interview 1145 w/ Strozk
        Ohr FD-302 05/16/17 (interview date 05/15/17). many redactions “codename for second matter we discussed this morning”, redacted

        https://www.scribd.com/document/377540616/PS-LP-Text-Messages-Dec-2016-May-2017?ad_group=725X700959Xd340bba21f36ba28ce4fd98bd1b16e22&campaign=SkimbitLtd&keyword=660149026&medium=affiliate&source=hp_affiliate

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  5. Beverly says:

    And Jerome Corsi says that Q-Anon is military, and is “close to Trump.”

    Verrry interesting…

    Liked by 2 people

    • Good Job! says:

      That’s funny.

      All Quack-Anon has done successfully it created a catchy breathy style.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Oldschool says:

        and lots of disciples

        Liked by 2 people

      • Sharon says:

        What is funny is the people who don’t get it and think Q is phony!

        Liked by 15 people

        • RG. Getard says:

          Agreed. As DT would say…We will have to wait and see.

          Liked by 4 people

        • daizeez says:

          I could do without the social media drama and personal attacks on people who follow Q. I personally find the Q posts interesting and it has made people aware of the deep state, child trafficking and globalism so I do not see the harm. But I prefer sites like the CTH that focus on supporting our President and have their own independent sources and who do some excellent digging for information and analysis.
          I am thankful for Sundance for continuing to focus on the original players like the Ohrs and Priestap who we never hear about anymore. It is so interesting that Ohr was interviewed at least a dozen times and also very recently.

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          • Jan says:

            I find this curious as well. From time to time, it seems like Bruce Ohr was the only contact/handler of Steele for FBI/DOJ . But we know that Steele also was dealing with Finer and/or Winer out of the State Dept. Of course, Fusion was supposed to be controlling Steele. Bruce has the perfect connection to Fusion thru his wife, so why does Bruce need to meet with Simpson after the election? We know that unsolicited intel was going to Steele in December after Steele was rejected by the FBI for communicating the memo with the press and Steele wrote another unverified memo in December. Did Ohr continue as Steele’s unofficial handler? There must have been some sort of crisis going on in October 2016 because John Carlin (?)–DOJ/National Security Div. head, filed the brief with the FISA court about the FBI/DOJ abusing the FISA laws and then quit. The order of ranking attorneys was #1 Lynch, #2 Yates, #3 Carlin & #4 Ohr.. Certainly, Ohr volunteered or was selected by his colleagues to be the fall guy.

            So Sundance, if you’re reading this comment what made Carlin write this brief to the FISA court, quit the DOJ, & resulted in Collyer’s findings that DNI Coats released partially redacted. Any chance we get the brief & her decision unredacted? All this is going on while the FBI gets the FISA warrant on Carter Page. And Bruce is looking like the fall guy. Any truth to a rumor that Mary Jacoby & Nellie were writing the dossier in Bruce’s office from which they could have been using Bruce’s id to get on NSA & FBI databases?

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            • Kent Neal says:

              I keep thinking that Nellie authored (or edited) the dossier. I think Fusion GPS employed Steele to give “foreign Intelligence” source.

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      • Rhoda R says:

        Phony or not, Q has gotten a lot of people interested in the deep state attack on our President.

        Liked by 13 people

        • piper567 says:

          Rhoda…I agree…Q has engaged many in the activity of searching for what’s what…a valuable service.
          Same as Candace Owens, same as talk show hosts/podcast masters, etc.
          All of it is a good thing, imo, since we no longer have msm doing their actual jobs.

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    • Navy says:

      The four football carriers get close to the President. Am I getting warm Q?

      Funny GW Bush story…. I was a flight instructor with a football carrier in Pensacola after his DC tour. He said the four carriers had an inside joke with GW around 2001 to 2002. He would do his press conferences, unlike Obama. No TeleprompterOTUS like Obama started. When GW would make up a word, he would look at his “best friends” with the cameras rolling, the football carriers, O-4’s in the four services. He would shake his yes subtly yes or no. If he made the word up, the carriers would respond and shake their head no saying it wasn’t a word. Pretty funny. They couldn’t get him to stop saying nucular bomb. Many Americans still think it is a word because of W.

      Anyhow. Q….. are you the USMC football carrier??? You don’t strike me as Army or Air Force. My guess is USMC. Give us a clue pal.

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      • Good Job! says:

        Last summer on “Q” sounded like a Zero Hedger fond of conspiracy theories about a certain middle eastern nation.

        He’s still a quack.

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        • Navy says:

          Podesta, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Clinton, Obama, Rosenstine, Mueller, etc are quacks. Look at the pictures of the Ohr Brothers up above. YIKES!!! Look at them all. Listen to them all. Quacks. Tyrants. Each one of them. Anti-American, Anti-Constitutional quacks and tyrants. I don’t really follow Q but if I had insults to hurl, I would do it at the people who were caught talking about hotdog parties, wet works at vineyards, and Hillary smelling like boiled cabbage, urine and farts….. and then tried to cover it up with Operation Crossfire Hurricane and a phony quack-like investigation.

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        • scott467 says:

          “Last summer on “Q” sounded like a Zero Hedger fond of conspiracy theories about a certain middle eastern nation.

          He’s still a quack.”

          ___________________

          Have you reached your conclusion based on a direct examination of the posts and research, or based on secondary sources?

          I see a lot of people attacking Q, and that’s fine if there is a coherent argument, but if there is, I haven’t seen it yet.

          This isn’t so hard to wrap our arms around.

          There are essentially three possibilities regarding Q:

          1) an independent, friendly, pro-Trump LARP

          2) a hostile psy-op / LARP masquerading as a very pro-Trump LARP

          3) a group or team working directly for the Trump administration, exactly as Q claims

          Skeptics dismiss #3 out of hand, so let’s set that aside and focus on the other two possibilities.

          Possibility #1: an independent pro-Trump LARP representing itself as part of the administration
          An independent operation is ‘rogue’ by definition, unaccountable, a wildcard. This particular wildcard has directly associated itself with the Trump administration, which means that what Q says reflects on the administration, to the extent that millions of Trump supporters believe Q is who he/they claim to be. That is a public relations nightmare waiting to happen (bad).

          A rogue/independent operation, even a friendly one, could inadvertently expose or compromise an actual operation (bad).

          And if Q is an independent, friendly/pro-Trump LARP, it must be the biggest, most complex, longest running LARP in the history of the Internet, being perpetrated against millions of Trump supporters in general, and most directly against a group of people (sometimes referring to themselves as ‘autists’) who seem to take great pleasure in uncovering deception and unraveling lies.

          That’s not nothing.

          If there is any upside to the administration allowing a friendly but rogue LARP to continue, misleading millions of Trump supporters, risking the administration’s reputation and credibility by association with an uncontrollable external entity, and risking exposure of legitimate operations, what is it?

          .

          Possibility #2: a hostile anti-Trump LARP representing itself as a part of the administration
          This possibility is difficult to reconcile, considering how overtly pro-Trump Q is, and considering how Q has ‘awakened’ millions of Americans to all kinds of Deep State / Globalist / Anti-American deception and treachery that most had never even thought of before.

          So if Q is a hostile operation masquerading as a part of the Trump administration, he/they are doing amazing damage to their own interests, and show no signs of letting up.

          But for sake of argument, suppose Q is a hostile psy-op. If so, why would the Trump administration allow it to continue, considering the risks a friendly rogue operation presents, much less a hostile operation?

          .

          It should go without saying that the Trump administration is certainly aware of Q.

          Likewise, if the Trump administration wanted to shut Q down, the NSA or military intelligence certainly have the technical capability and could easily do so. But even if they didn’t have that capability, President Trump could shut Q down by himself, in about 5 seconds.

          A single Tweet, to his 20+ million Twitter followers, saying Q was a fraud or a LARP or a hostile operation, and Q’s credibility with his/their audience evaporates instantly.

          Gone.

          A rogue or independent operation, whether friendly or hostile, represents needless and unnecessary risks. The administration knows about Q, has the capability to shut Q down, and yet has not done so.

          So considering the brief exploration of possibilities above, which one fits best?

          1) an independent, friendly, pro-Trump LARP, the longest running and most complex LARP in the history of the Internet?

          2) a hostile psy-op / LARP masquerading as a very pro-Trump LARP?

          3) a group or team working directly for the Trump administration, exactly as Q claims?

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          • Johnny Bravo says:

            Excellent and well crafted Scott. I will take it to the bank, #3

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          • Greg says:

            Great explanation and logical argument. I find it odd that a number of supposedly credible, intelligent people and sources reflexively dump on Q. To me it makes perfect sense for the current administration (or Trump) to adopt a full spectrum of measures in dealing with the opposition/resistance/coup/traitors who’ve determined to oppose them. Particularly as they knew in advance how corrupt and partisan the big media brands would be in their coverage of the Trump and the administration in general.

            The Q aspect, on face value is brilliant. While Obama leveredged the new “social media” of Facebook for his election wins, Trump’s people determined that particular gatherings inside the internet chat boards were in effect seed influencers. These “antisocial media” chat boards, populated with sceptical, anti authoritarian nerds are responsible for something like Bitcoin becoming (years later) a household name.I think after working out the unfathomable depths of the conspiracy and oppsition his administration faced it was decided the most credible and effective way to expose the general public was via Q on the boards. It’s taken around 10 weeks to break significantly out from the board community, out into a wider band of truth-seekers, conspiracists, citizen journalists making their name and Trump supporters. It’s taken another 10 weeks to begin breaking into the mainstream, primarily with rebuttal articles in the attack press. At around the 24th week (nearly 6 months) Roseanne tweets about Q and it’s on the way to household name status.

            The plain fact is Q is helping expose the general public (previously captured by the lying big media brands) to the reality that Washington, in fact the entire nation is a swamp of corruption and criminality.In fact has been for coming up 30 years.Given that it’s taken almost 18 months to reveal what we know today, those who throw shade a Q simply have no idea what they are saying. One of the more interesting Q reveals is that Alex Jones (long suspected as being a ‘limited hangout’) sees Q as a threat to his media empire. Jones cannot exactly be the main man fighting big government, conspiracies, elite pedophile rings and space alien secrets with Q dropping info. So Jones has declared all out war, saying that Q was real but has been hacked and is now run by bad people.

            Like whoever is behind Q, I know that a lot of people hate anything that even remotely sounds like a conspiracy theory. How do you tell these people they responding exactly as they’ve been programmed to do by the CIA.Perhaps give them a copy of Lance deHaven Smith’s “Conspiracy Theory in America”, an excellant and well researched book that explores the weaponization of the term by CIA operatives to control debate and cut down critics in advance of the release of the Warren Report into the Assasination of JFK (famous for the ‘lone gunman narrative as two or more is a conspiracy and the magic bullet that does mid air acrobatics to hit all of it’s targets). A 1960’s CIA memo to all stations (mistakenly released as part of an unrelated FOIA) lays out the CIA playbook in detail.

            So, take what we know now that was laughed at as ridiculous 18 months ago. Understand that once bad players at FBI and DOJ are neutralized the floodgates can open and that there is evidence of so much more, shocking and unbelievable crimes. Q is a necessary part of the full spectrum of draining the swamp and exposing the general public so they understand what is happening.

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          • Tonawanda says:

            Definitive analysis of the issue!

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        • churchmouse says:

          Q wasn’t around last summer.

          Q didn’t start until late October 2017. The Saudi purge took place shortly afterwards. That’s why Q wrote so much about it.

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      • Rhoda R says:

        Given the different writing styles, it is possible that Q is all four of them. Or a different group close to the President.

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        • wolfmoon1776 says:

          My money is on one of the Q personas (main one) being an actual former 4chan anon who went into military intel and was then recruited into a high-clearance unit precisely to “talk in larp” to the chan-world. Some of the people behind him are extremely professional. They are very sharp people.

          The project very likely resulted from study of the 2016 election, IMO, and was then rolled forward after Las Vegas to counteract anti-Trump Obama-Soros-CIA-trained disinformation assets and their foreign allies, as well as anti-Trump work by our own rogues. Very interesting stuff.

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      • ATheoK says:

        The military that is most in contact, i.e. direct contact with the POTUS are the pilots for Trump’s planes and helicopters; along with their Commanding Officer.

        Then there are the Secret Service, not military, but in constant contact.

        Pilot(s) and their CO would get to travel to places where Trump goes, listen to conversations with other leaders and their henchmen.

        I’d guess Marines are the Q connection with a network of pilots collecting the information, and a non-pilot officer handling the postings. Perhaps an electronics officer or perhaps communication or navigation officer.

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      • piper567 says:

        I have heard W is dyslexic and this is why he had so much trouble reading…and so resorted to his kind garbled way of talking,

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      • Loisplane says:

        My old friend JQ was one of those guys. USAF.

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  6. TreeperInTraining says:

    I’ve ALWAYS been a fan of the ocean…especially when watching the tide turn.

    Sometimes it’s slow and gentle…and sometimes it takes out all in its path.

    Pass me the bong and beach chair, please…as it’s going to be a long summer.

    Lol

    (Thanks, as always…to the Big Treep and all his Treepers. My sanity is this place.)

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  7. wheatietoo says:

    “SIDEBAR – Question(s): Why was the FBI interviewing Bruce Ohr in 2016?
    Who, specifically, was interviewing Bruce Ohr in 2016 and for what purpose? [The IG investigation did not begin until mid January 2017]”
    ____

    Narrative manufacturing?
    That would be my guess, as to the ‘purpose’.

    And also, evidence laundering…false evidence laundering, creating a paper trail for the manufactured evidence.

    Once you get something down, in an ‘interview’…then it’s like it somehow has instant credibility.

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  8. nimrodman says:

    Hey, all y’all –

    Michael Caputo is on Ingraham Fox show right now, about 8 minutes in, after her opening monologue.

    also Carter Page

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    • nimrodman says:

      Caputo’s final 30 seconds are a must-see.
      Paraphrasing from memory:

      “In Russia, they call this “——–” – the secret police that spy on the entire citizenry.”

      “I’ll tell you one thing I KNOW …”

      “… and the FBI isn’t the only agency that “went at” the Trump campaign”
      “… I know, because they came at me”

      “… and I’m trying to get clearance from my attorney to reveal what I know to the American public”

      Liked by 10 people

      • Deplorable_Infidel says:

        “… and I’m trying to get clearance from my attorney to reveal what I know to the American public””

        That was my favorite quote – thanks for posting.

        Sundance will probably have a post about it later, but I am going to have to retire a little earlier than usual this evening.
        G’nite treepers.

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      • listingstarboard says:

        I donated to Caputo via the Go Fund Me that was set up, today i got a wonderful email from him and his family thanking me for donation–it was a class move!! He vows to be even more vocal now!!

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  9. Lis says:

    Everything comes down to the Ohrs, Can’t row a boat without ’em.

    Liked by 3 people

  10. nimrodman says:

    … Page is as incoherent as always. Going to Caputo just now.

    Liked by 8 people

    • Oldschool says:

      I try to imagine Trump meeting with Page. I would think his communication style would drive Trump crazy.

      Liked by 6 people

      • Lady in Red says:

        LOL. I think you are right about that.

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      • Anonymous says:

        This would be a case where Trump is in accord with 90% of the population. Page is bizarre. It’s one thing to be awkward. But if you KNOW or are TOLD you are awkward, you take action to correct it. Being on TV like this is a big deal. Both for him personally (work future, etc.) as well as for the nation in terms of the scandal. But he persists in these bizarre behaviors.

        I know how the Russians felt when they said he was an idiot. That’s not 64-D checkers. That is a dope.

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  11. xsnake says:

    Mr. Ohr…if I were you, I’d steer clear of Fort Marcy Park.

    Liked by 5 people

  12. Paul Tibbets says:

    I think from what we have already seen RR is going to be fired or have to resign once the details of his arrangement with Mueller is made known.

    RR was involved in the coup before hand then gave Mueller FISA court authority to continue the spying. RR does not have the power to grant that authority nor should he.

    Also Q says he is a marked man.

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  13. also, don’t forget Grassley demanded all documents related to Flynn interview/prosecution (i.e. 302 interviews of Flynn) by this Friday and demanded the agent that interviewed Flynn answer committee’s questions

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  14. michaelhamblin says:

    “On the DOJ National Security Division side of Main Justice, attorney Bruce Ohr remains employed, but invisible; likely under tight investigative controls.”

    Indeed. Inquiring minds…

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  15. billrla says:

    For at least the past decade, the U.S. has been without a functioning FBI and DOJ.

    Liked by 7 people

  16. Justmom says:

    Is it possible to know how much Fusion was paying Nellie? Is it possible to verify whether she was actually working for Fusion or if she had another job simultaneously and was just collecting a check from Fusion as well? Is she still employed at Fusion and collecting a paycheck or was she hired as an independent contractor? Did her paychecks/remittances end before or after Bruce’s first “interview”? Is it possible that her employment served as a legal bribe solely to induce Bruce to comply with the plan for the insurance policy?

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    • Good Job! says:

      If the last one, imagine how many other Washington figures are bribed by Fusion GPS giving money to their spouses for “work.”

      But Nellie is an expert on Russia open source media. This allows the intriguing possibility she accumulated all the Russia Media Says Bad Things About Hillary that was a big part of the January 2017 Intel. Community Assessment. If true that means the whole ICA was a Hillary project–CrowdStrike on the DNC and hacking background, Fusion GPS on the tacit dossier parts, and Fusion again on the Russian media via Nellie.

      More fun is if Nellie was paid to imagine up the dossier memos and Steele was only the laundry, the false flag for them.

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      • thedoc00 says:

        Fusin GPS is the bag man and launderer for the real puppet masters. The same ones who will fund the allegedly broke Democrat Party this fall, during the elections.

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      • brenrod says:

        “More fun is if Nellie was paid to imagine up the dossier memos and Steele was only the laundry, the false flag for them.”

        bingo

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  17. White Apple says:

    It has to be the military used for the solution of the crooked, corrupt, communist compromised elected officials. These elected officials no longer represent the citizens of the United States. People have to recognize thank God for Trump or the nation would be on its way to
    Venezuela in a handbasket.

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    • billrla says:

      White Apple: Unfortunately, many parts of the U.S. are in that handbasket, headed for Venezuala. Take California, for example. The boulevards and avenues of Los Angeles and San Francisco (probably San Diego, as well) are outdoor insane asylums, while our capital building in Sacramento is an indoor insane asylum.

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    • CollusionMyth says:

      Well Trump has given us a reprieve. Until we solve the situation in the schools of adults indoctrinating children in socialism (ABUSE) and taking away time from other real educational activities for that indoctrination (FRAUD) we are still in serious danger.

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  18. CollusionMyth says:

    Just an interesting aside, 11/22/2016 the first interview date for Bruce Ohr is also the first date that Page and Strzok texted about CH (Crossfire Hurricane) and CHS (Crossfire Hurricane Stuff).

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  19. ann hendrickson says:

    Senator Grassley is determined to bring transparancy to a departmental culture which unwisely calculated American citizens lacked the gumption to eradicate Obama’s Opaque Authoritarian Statism.

    Liked by 2 people

    • KeithBB says:

      Yes, although he seems a little off-point on occasion, ya gotta love the guy’s motives and integrity and savvy. And persistence when he’s on the hunt.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Jim Ryan says:

        Considering that he is a member of the second most powerful group of anti-Trumpers in Washington (Senate Republicans), he does seem to be one of the good guys.

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  20. rayvandune says:

    Has anybody determined whether NSA intercepts Amateur Radio messages, like Nellie was fixin’ to send? I say “send” because anybody can receive, no licence required, just the equipment anyone can buy.

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    • CollusionMyth says:

      I think not about the radio, more of an analog thing. Email, text, phone all rely on digital protocols which can be captured over networks.

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    • gerkenstein says:

      I doubt it. that would be too much work.

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    • Normally Quiet Observer says:

      Only one thing to say about this +rayvandune … “Ft. Juachuca Arizona”. I cannot say if it is still “in business” but back in the day it could and often did pick up EVERY shortwave radio transmission – sometimes from far-a-way places, and sometimes local. They used to have an “antenna farm” to die for … FYI … I am a Ham Radio Operator and have been one for well over 50 years, even though I no longer own any gear, nor do I operate any more.

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    • G. Combs says:

      “Has anybody determined whether NSA intercepts Amateur Radio messages, like Nellie was fixin’ to send? …..”

      Actually I had a conversation with people including a guy who chased spies on that subject.
      From the conversation.
      1.Ham radio is used in spycraft. Messages are sent as separate packets in bursts at specified times. The information sent would be about thumb drive drops or whatever and not the actual information. He said the ham messages make it almost impossible to catch the spy transferring info.

      2. Nellie Ohr’s role would be to make the faked Russian spy transmissions look authentic. Just as a lawyer has a certain way of writing a legal brief, so do Russian spies. The use of language would not be the same as conversational Russian. Nellie would be familiar with this distinction and be able to parrot it.

      3. Christopher Steele was hired to look over the finished product and make sure it passed muster as authentic looking. He was also hired to give it a veneer of credibility.

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    • andy says:

      yes. Satelite telemetry is digital over shortwave.

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  21. nimrodman says:

    Ingraham Fox show now has William Binney, former head of NSA (if I have that right), starts about 24 minutes in

    Binney trying to explain a bit about how NSA works, if Ingraham would get out of his way and give him time.

    Also Jeff Beatty, former CIA Counter-Terrrorism Officer

    They’re talking mostly about Brennan

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    • billrla says:

      nimrodman: Doesn’t Fox have its own promotional announcements?

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      • nimrodman says:

        Well, Bill …

        You may notice that Sundance often bases entire posts around one video clip or another.

        And it’s long been accepted here that the Treehouse is a collaborative, crowd-sourcing endeavor on one level.

        It’s been my impression that Sundance peruses the comment threads seeking bits of info in comments that have been made.

        In fact, I think it’s more than just an impression, I think I’ve read Sundance stating to that effect.

        You may note that many of Sundance posts for the day appear to be drawn from comments in the overnight Presidential thread. Sometimes a topical thread will appear quite shortly after someone’s posted a comment from the news.

        Follow so far?

        So if I see what I think is a particularly salient interview on Fox or any other news channel, I’m inclined to drop a comment in the threads, noting the source and including a sentence or two explaining the context.

        It might alert Sundance to an item he wouldn’t come across unless he exhaustively peruses Fox’s website daily or has Fox News on in the background all day (which he might, on both counts, I wouldn’t know).

        My comment might also inform others, who might have something to add.

        Such as Deplorable Infidel below, who points out where further information about William Binney can be found.

        So if you intended no snark, please forgive my longer exposition here.

        Regardless, you’re free to scroll on by anything you don’t particularly like, no?

        Just sayin’
        YMMV

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        • Maquis says:

          We are Sundance’s Auxillary Neural Net. The sharing Treepers do is invaluable and a serious force multiplier for CTH. One never knows who one’s comment may influence, inspire, or empower, but it happens all the time. That’s reason enough to put our thoughts and observations out here, despite occasional eeyores.

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      • dutzie60 says:

        The Conservative Treehouse utlizes crowdsourcing.
        noun
        : the practice of obtaining needed services, ideas, or content by soliciting contributions from a large group of people and especially from the online community rather than from traditional employees or suppliers

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    • Oldschool says:

      I seem to recall that POTUS instructed Kelly, shortly after he became COS, to go meet with Binney. At this point though, my brain needs more gigabytes of memory.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Maquis says:

        School, if you’re trying to keep up with the information torrent that is CTH you’d best seek additional Petaflops of memory. 😊 I’m still looking for the requisition forms for my own mental upgrade schemes. No luck yet…

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “William Binney, former head of NSA”

      He has quite a few videos on YouTube where he is talking without interruption or time constraints.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Paco Loco says:

        He wasn’t the head of NSA. He was a senior analyst and a whistle blower.

        Liked by 2 people

        • Zadig888 says:

          William Binney is an American hero. His unique analysis predicted the 1968 Soviet invasion of czechslovakia. Weeks out he predicted the invasion of Afghanistan +/- an hour. And the He created the system to monitor the digital communications of the entire population of the world in a way that protected privacy of us citizens not in contact with bad guys, and to zoom in on all contacts of suspected terrorists. It was running prior to 9/11. It was low cost. ie contractors got nothing. It was shut down just prior to 9/11. His team say they have no doubt they would have prevented 9/11. His team retired (early) about a month after 9/11 as they believed the NSA was violating constitution as the were grabbing all usa digital communications not just metadata. He believes there objective was to expand there budget and enrich contractors. That there search methods were archaic and made searches for bad guys impossible.
          He and his team went thru proper channels to alert congress. They ended up having there homes raided worse than Manafort. FBI picked the wrong guy to frame. He got all the correspondence on the FBI framing him. Read it on the phone to his team. Received full blanket immunity. They still black list the team members when they try to do business.

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    • piper567 says:

      Ingraham rarely gets out of Anyone’s way.
      sad, bc she actually has interesting guests.
      Sometimes radio people do not transition well to TV…

      Liked by 1 person

  22. ForGodandCountry says:

    Grassley letter……right on cue.

    The controlled timing of information reveals and participant spotlights is really something to watch unfold.

    (popcorn munching)

    Liked by 5 people

    • CollusionMyth says:

      or right on Q.

      Liked by 9 people

    • billrla says:

      ForGodandCountry: We taxpayers do not pay these people to control the timing and flow of information. We pay these people to do a job, and, much as they are busy controlling the timing and flow of information, they have not done their job. As far as I am concerned, the country could have been spared a lot of abuse and sedition had our senators and congresscritters been doing there job for the past 10 years.

      The same criticism applies to AG Sessions, who failed in his role as senator.

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      • Freedom says:

        Yes, AG Sessions is a failure in every sense of the word. He has shamed his office and the State of Alabama as well. Be gone, Jeff!

        Liked by 1 person

        • formerdem says:

          And all that yak yak about his honor? Nobody’s going to want to talk about honor any time soon, Jeff, you’re emptying out that word. Shame. Well, Trump may be able to fix that also, who knows.

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      • JustSomeInputFromAz says:

        “failed in his role as senator”

        HaHaHa…..Senator Sessions was the ONLY Senator to flag the American People of the dangers of TPP?

        How much does Media Matters pay you per post?

        Liked by 1 person

      • Oldschool says:

        well said brill. I don’t need their controlled info flow anymore than our children need mooch’s controlled school lunches. Do your jobs.

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        • G. Combs says:

          YOU may not need their controlled info flow Oldschool but, let’s face it, those of us on CTH are not typical of most Americans.

          Most people have zero idea of what is happening since the only news they get is Psyops from the Left. Therefore President Trump and his team must carefully FORCE the MSM to cover this soft coup so Americans realize the sedition and treason that was carried out under their noses. On top of that President Trump has to time it to create the greatest impact on the midterm elections.

          REMEMBER the ReBooblicans are part of the Uniparty and they WANT to lose the House and Senate so Trump can be impeached. That means you will see the ReBooblicans AIDING the Democrats as they did in Alabama and then in Pennsylvania.

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          • Jim Ryan says:

            Thanks for boiling it down so concisely. Most people who rely on the psyops campaigns of the MSM must be thoroughly confused by the about face of MSM from denials to the justification angle. I believe the Trump team is controlling information releases so that average joes can comprehend MSM’s changing narratives. So glad I’ve found this place; sundance is always a step ahead, and always correct. Uncanny. Thanks, again.

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  23. xcontra says:

    I just want to know why she got that ham radio license. I am sure we will never find out, though.

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  24. But the OIG investigation that debuted in mid-Jan 2017 is not an investigation on FISA warrant (Ohr is not implicated), it was on H’s emails.

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    • G. Combs says:

      The OIGs investigate. They make reports on waste and compliance and issue a report to the department head AND to congress twice a year.

      Each Inspector General shall report to and be under the general supervision of the head of the establishment involved or, to the extent such authority is delegated, the officer next in rank below such head, but shall not report to, or be subject to supervision by, any other officer of such establishment. Neither the head of the establishment nor the officer next in rank below such head shall prevent or prohibit the Inspector General from initiating, carrying out, or completing any audit or investigation, or from issuing any subpoena during the course of any audit or investigation.
      (b) An Inspector General may be removed from office by the President….”

      For more info see: the INSPECTOR GENERAL ACT OF 1978
      http://legcounsel.house.gov/Comps/Inspector%20General%20Act%20Of%201978.pdf
      (It was just amended again in 2016)

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  25. citizen817 says:

    Slowly but surely the white hats are nibbling their way up the food chain of command for all to see.
    Lynch didn’t leave til the inauguration on Jan 20, 2016. She was for sure aware of the shenanigans being played out by the FBI under her leadership. All subsequent roads lead to Obama.
    Isn’t life grand. What goes around comes around. The consequences of their actions will be dealt with eventually…

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  26. fleporeblog says:

    Senator Grassley has once again earned White Hat status in my book! He is the only Senator that I believe is a White Hat.

    I was a bit dumbfounded when he pushed the vote in his committee to protect Mueller from PDJT firing him. Even after the fact that McConnell said he would not bring it to the floor for a vote. Some of my followers provided valid reasons which was good enough for me.

    What I admire most about Senator Grassley is the fact that he is straight forward and not politically correct in his questioning.

    This is a tremendous letter that he wrote that basically puts Bruce Ohr front and center! You can run but you can’t hide!

    Liked by 2 people

    • wheatietoo says:

      There are a few other White Hat Senators, Fle…such as Sen Jim Inhofe [R-OK] and Sen John Kennedy [R-LA].

      But I agree that Sen Grassley is doing a good job on this.

      Still not sure about the ‘protect Mueller’ thing, but it’s a mute point since McConnell killed it.

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  27. GB Bari says:

    Thank you Sundance for more analysis and good perspective.
    Love the picture of Milton from “Office Space”!
    Maybe Bruce is also down in the basement by now…

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  28. scott467 says:

    Ad-rem, I’m in the bin!

    Liked by 1 person

  29. Travis Bowie says:

    On the question of who interviewed Ohr in 2016.
    If there was not yet an investigation, and, at the time, Ohr was #4 in the hierarchy, would it be safe/logical to assume he would be interviewed by a superior, meaning Lynch, Yates, or McCord?

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  30. Justbill says:

    Ohr must be in the witness protection program. The most recent picture of him reminds me a lot of that guy in “Office Space”.

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  31. Robert Powell says:

    If ever the fly on the wall, it would be I, in the meeting today – If ever one was going to wiah for another St’ Valentines massacre albite on another day, any day, it would be I, Mc’fly.

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  32. MTK says:

    SIDEBAR – Question(s): Why was the FBI interviewing Bruce Ohr in 2016? Who, specifically, was interviewing Bruce Ohr in 2016 and for what purpose? [The IG investigation did not begin until mid January 2017]

    Uhm… Naval Intelligence is my guess. With two hundred and twenty plus years of tradition, dedication and devotion to the Consitition, Naval Intelligence is final bulwark on all matters of Oversight on the Consitution.

    It is enshrined in the Navys Oaths to defend the Consitution since its inception. Since Civillian Consitutional authority has in modern terms become preeminent, many have lost sight of this founding mandate of Naval Intelligence to uphold the Consitution as a beign oversight stewards of the Consitution.

    I put it this way… the Consitution is prefaced on check and balances, which are purely political contravances based on the assumption the three branches are independant of each other. What happens, if the three branches become so convoluted the check and balances have little meaning.

    Well, absent to God Almighty, as a last resort one of the Navy’s founding premises is to enact that fear of God almightly.

    How screwed is the Obama adminstration, eight years of controll in the face of 200+ years of tradition. Well, I will say they’re pretty well keelhualed!!!

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  33. daizeez says:

    At some point I think President Trump will declassify it all. At the pace the DOJ/FBI are working, getting to the bottom of this mess and cleaning it up will take longer than 8 years. Declassifying all of it at the right time, would fast track that process.

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  34. JX says:

    Too bad the letter does not specify a due date.

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  35. Anonymous says:

    1. Q: My take is that Q is another amateur analyst (like Sundance). He’s sympathetic to Trump and knowledgeable about chan-ways (and shows some patters from that behavior, more than demeanor of an insider). Haven’t seen good real reveals from him. Just guesses. And the clickbait style guessing game implies someone who is not in the know. So, yeah…I say case 1, sympathetic LARP. Doesn’t mean he can’t have some good insights at times as any analyst would and he has submerged himself in the topic.

    2. Videos: Dislike the clips. People like Hannity, etc. waste way too much limited time. It is the radio background (see it on sports radio too) where they are just used to time filling. Prefer the articles by Strassel, McCarthy, the Hill, the Federalist, instead. If someone like Page wants to get info out or to respond to insightful questioning, they should avoid the people like Hannity and go to someone who can do a good interview. Then just upload it to Youtube.

    3. Page is an annoying guy, but I did think his comments rang true in terms of him not being sure that Halper was a mole. Doesn’t mean Halper wasn’t. But just in interactions with Page, he did not come across that way or target him that way. For instance the $3000 to Podesta seems strange. But we should at least reserve judgment.

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  36. Anonymous says:

    In terms of the Ohr interviews, they were probably related to Steele/Simpson having gone to the press and FBI having had to fire Steele (not go forward with planned payment). Could also be something like the non disclosed wife on the Simpson staff or some leaks to the press. Probably the earlier meetings were more innocuous and later ones more serious.

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  37. RAC says:

    The obama regime obviously knew what was going because they instigated the Russia novel.
    Is it possible that when PDJT was elected they started planning a scenario where the small group took the blame and the story being obama (the virtuous one(vomit)) had been let down by their treachery and was investigating them.
    That would explain why Ohr was being questioned those four times by obamas FBI and also why Ohr didn’t stay tight lipped if he thought he’d been offered as a scapegoat.

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  38. Bilbo says:

    Beans spilled all over the place !

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