Rand Paul: “President Trump Needs to Declassify The Shenanigans”…

Oh, heck yes.  This is exactly what we have been talking about.  In an interview with Neil Cavuto, Senator Rand Paul shares his opinion that President Trump should respond to the coordinated political attacks by FBI and DOJ operatives by declassifying the information underneath all their shenanigans.

Good advice.  Without interfering with the IG Horowitz and parallel Proseuctor John Huber approach, President Trump should immediately begin declassifying the documents surrounding the FISA abuse scandal.

Start by declassifying the 99-page opinion of FISA Court Presiding Judge, Rosemary Collyer.  Remove all the redactions and let us see who the FBI/DOJ officials were allowing to have access to the NSA database to conduct searches.  Then declassify the full FISA Title-1 surveillance application used by the FBI and DOJ against U.S. person Carter Page.

If these releases of information create a need for prosecution of the people, entities and former officials behind the documents, then so be it. These documents are unrelated to the issues of the FBI conduct review of IG Horowitz, and extend outside the DOJ. WATCH:

 

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443 Responses to Rand Paul: “President Trump Needs to Declassify The Shenanigans”…

  1. Madglobal says:

    Trump ordering Rosenstein to immediately reclassify and release the Page FISA application and the findings of FISA wrongdoing would be genius. Rosenstein would refuse and could then be fired for cause.

    Liked by 38 people

  2. ablefox says:

    Declassification is at CNN….

    Liked by 4 people

  3. JX says:

    Start with the “partially redacted” document Rosenstein showed Nunes.

    How can a document be partially redacted? It either is or isn’t.

    Liked by 11 people

    • Chris Four says:

      They redacted names of individuals and countries they did not to reveal.

      They could also redact telephone and street addresses.

      Liked by 5 people

      • Newt Love says:

        But those same facts, Austrailia, and the OZ ambassador to the UN, were NOT REDACTED in the copy LEAKED to the NYSlimes.

        Who’s double standard is showing now?

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      • Carrie2 says:

        Chris, and only making it worse for Rosenstein and his pal Mueller, and his problem in signing off on FISA. He is a part of the swamp so is under scrutiny and the Trump hammer will flatten him out.

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    • ablefox says:

      It is all Fact Free reporting. The MSM and the Social Justice System have become entirely fact free wishful thinking by leftomaniacs. Only defeated by the rules of law after a couple years of appeals. Total corruption has been achieved by the left.

      Liked by 14 people

  4. I believe these illegal antics need to come out now, before the left destroys this Country.

    Liked by 11 people

    • fleporeblog says:

      The Left, Mueller, Democrats etc. are actually destroying themselves! There is a clear correlation between Mueller’s witch hunt and how Republicans are doing in polling leading towards the November elections.

      From the article linked above:

      When asked if Mueller has a conflict of interest “as the former head of the FBI and a friend of James Comey,” 54 percent responded that the “relationship” between the two amounts to a conflict of interest, including 70 percent of Republicans, 53 percent of independents and 40 percent of Democrats.

      A Washington Post-ABC poll in early November found that 58 percent approve of Mueller’s investigation. That poll showed a significant different among parties, with 78 percent of Democrats approving of the probe, but 56 percent of independents and 38 percent of Republicans disapproving.

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      • Solomonpal says:

        So 62 % of Republicans approve?

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        • Deusvult says:

          62% of the people called by the pollsters identifying as rep. “approve”. Not 62% of Republicans.
          Did they ask you?

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      • distracted2 says:

        The difference between the numbers of Democrats who approve of Mueller compared to those who approve of the probe are pretty astonishing. That means a significant number of Democrats will question anything he may or may not find.

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      • Deusvult says:

        And you have to consider that these numbers are much better as these polls are proven to be tinkered with. I bet no one on CTH ever got a call by them ..

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        • Mike13 says:

          Polls don’t matter to the left. Even voting doesnt – ETF will go through judicial system then.

          When will everyone learn you can’t argue or compromise with true leftism? If a leftist is in government office, you can only fire him, everything he or she does will be used to undermine the Republic.

          While at it, terminate FBI and CIA – place them under NSA oversight for their political misdeeds. That’s a start.

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  5. LafnH2O says:

    “As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth’s final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism.
    Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master.”

    Commissioner Previn lal
    Alpha Centauri
    Firaxis Games

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    • LafnH2O says:

      Goodnight from Waypoint III

      Liked by 1 person

    • Patty FromTexas says:

      The “Gatekeepers of Legitimate Information” control the narrative only so long as they have the public trust. This would include the most popular search engine on the planet, Google which controls something like 80% of the search engine market share. Whoever controls the information controls public opinion.

      Liked by 6 people

      • WSB says:

        Yes, but the rest of us…the other 50%…do not trust any of it.

        Liked by 7 people

      • RAC says:

        Haven’t used google search for years and I try to stay away from any of their services. Any thing with google in the name is marked as distrusted in my Noscript and I only allow it on a temporary basis when absolutely necessary to make a site work.

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  6. Kenji says:

    Mr Bower’s response is wholly inadequate. It is a middle finger to the people of the USA … saying essentially, that the FBI has the absolute RIGHT to spy on whomever they want and tell NO ONE about it … not even the Congress under which they serve. We seem to be having a FULL ON Constitutional CRISIS … thanks Obama! Thanks Deep State Leftist embeds. Or is that inbreds?

    Liked by 11 people

  7. 4harrisonblog says:

    Pull that trigger Senator Paul!

    Liked by 6 people

  8. Looks like Rand Paul’s October 15th golf outing with President Trump may be paying off!

    Liked by 11 people

  9. ablefox says:

    The DDD nuke option … Declass everything an pardon all de good guys. From the git go.

    Liked by 5 people

  10. HeavyD says:

    There are very few honest men left in Washington; Rand Paul is one of them. If PDJT does not act decisivly, he (and we) are doomed. If we can’t address blatant criminal acts by team blue; but the president can be destroyed by lies, we live in a lawless society.

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    • Mike13 says:

      Correction, we already live in lawless society, hasn’t the witch hunt shown you that?

      When Roman republic was ending and writing was on the wall, it was hardest to see for those on the insight, including Cicero.

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  11. Brant says:

    Couldn’t he also declassify all the Awan stuff? I know some of that (and the shenanigan) papers could mess up criminal cases, but it seems like those have little chance of ever happening. So, maybe declassify 80-90% and keep back some real juicy stuff. And let everyone know that stuff is being held back. At this stage, I would even be kinda satisfied with some overwhelming humiliation. Granted dimwits will vote for them anyway, but at least they would be laughing stocks on every Sunday show they go on. Imagine Fake Rapper or F. Chuck Todd interviewing a congressional dimwit that everyone knows did those things. Heck, POTUS could even declassify and then pardon them at the same news conference.

    Can you imagine releasing something on Mad Maxine and then in the next breath pardoning her? Of course keeping some stuff back. I think it would be hilarious.

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  12. Republicanvet91 says:

    It hit me this morning when I was thinking about all of this, and the news that Paul Ryan is resigning.

    We might not be in this situation, or it might not so thoroughly infect so many federal departments if Congressmen like Ryan and others actually took their oversight roles seriously.

    Throughout Obama’s terms, and even after, many committee chairmen in both the House and Senate have used whatever oversight roles they are playing for little more than theater. There have been zero results by their oversight efforts throughout both his terms. Whether it was weaponizing the IRS and EPA against citizens, flagrant violations of the law, a politicized, gun-running AG at DOJ, Congress has failed to get serious with oversight.

    Now we are paying the price for them being so gutless.

    Liked by 12 people

    • Sporty says:

      They are not gutless they are complicit. Don’t ever forget it. These thieves have sold us out. There’s are Trillions at stake.

      Liked by 22 people

      • Republicanvet91 says:

        I think selling us out more than anything is why RyanO is resigning.

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        • Guy-Blanc Déploré says:

          Ryan’s not yet said anything about resigning at this point, unless I missed something in the last few hours.

          His plans as stated for the moment are to not run for re-election, but stay in his seat, and remain speaker until the closing of this congressional session (Jan. 2019).
          Those plans may change a bit as things evolve.

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        • Ken says:

          Yes. There was a headline yesterday about how Lyin Ryan is slated to make millions after he leaves.

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  13. Frbrdskmi8 says:

    IMO President Trump is smarter and more cunning than any of these idiots. He knows what’s going on and in the midst of all of it, he’s still trying to MAGA. If we lose faith and abandon him , we only have ourselves to blame for the consequences. This man gave up his business ventures during his office tenure, donates his salary to charity, is abused daily by media and those who claim to be Conservatives (a party that should support their President). This is a turning point, if we don’t stand for what we believe and help President Trump then we deserve what we get. Our children, grandchildren and all who come after deserve better. God bless you President Trump, may our heavenly Father bestow His blessings, mercy and strength upon you. May He lead and guide you, amen.

    Liked by 14 people

  14. TeaForAll says:

    Enough is Enough.
    President Trump release the documents. We are behind you, the American People need closure on all of this drama. To be honest I am sick of all this BS

    Liked by 13 people

  15. Stormyeyes says:

    Oh good God. I didn’t know this before:

    https://theblacksphere.net/2017/12/should-america-trust-inspector-general-michael-horowitz/

    “Michael E. Horowitz will now be looking into the actions of FBI Director James Comey. In the early 1990s, Horowitz briefly worked for Comey while the two of them were in the Southern District of New York.
    From 1987 to 1993, James Comey worked at the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York, serving as deputy chief of the Criminal Division. Horowitz also worked for Southern District of New York for some of that time; Comey and Horowitz were both there from 1991 through 1993, with Horowitz being assistant U.S. attorney.”

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    • Sauce says:

      From December, perhaps he has wised up

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    • Rhoda R says:

      Operative words: “…briefly worked with….” I’ve worked for years with people I didn’t much like and I guarantee that I wouldn’t soften my findings just because I once worked with them. I’m sure he had enough time to get fed up with Comey’s Holier than Thou attitude. Also remember the crap that Obama gave him and that Yates tried to keep him from doing his job properly. He’s not going to soft peddle anything.

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  16. SR says:

    Tomorrow is Friday and RR and others met with WH team today. Let see or nothing..

    Liked by 1 person

  17. Streak 264 says:

    Maybe one reason this investigation is being dragged out is that the DHS needs to be prepared for the fallout of all the high ranking being perp walked. You know there will be riots in the streets plus whatever crap the deep state rains down on us. There needs to be serious planning especially not knowing what the deep state has in mind. Or maybe they do know what the deep state has planned.

    Liked by 4 people

    • Newt Love says:

      Piss on ’em!

      Liked by 1 person

    • jello333 says:

      Yes, there will need to be a strong response. We can’t let it just go on like we previously did with the BLM and Antifa garbage. But at the same time, we do NOT wan’t to just mow them down, even if some of them deserve it. No, that would just turn them into martyrs and the next day there’d probably be even more people in the streets. So what we need to do rather than hurt them is… humiliate them.

      Use water cannons, but not the ones that can kill you at close range if a person is hit the wrong way. Just use moderate pressure, but instead of water, use that “stink gel” or whatever it’s called that I’ve been hearing about. Just soak them with that, and watch them all running around gagging and throwing up. When those live shots are shown on TV, the primary reaction of most people watching on TV will be… LAUGHTER. Even some news anchors will be having trouble keeping a straight face.

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  18. Stormyeyes says:

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  19. missilemom says:

    A little “declassing” of the Bushies if true.

    Liked by 8 people

  20. tunis says:

    I don’t understand why President Trump is not declassifying the FISA abuse documents? He has full authority to do so.

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    • Eris says:

      It’s a “nuclear” option because CONgress may move to impeach him right away for “recklessly damaging national security” or some other phony charge along that line. Conditions like public support has to be right for President Trump to do something “radical” like ordering full declassification & release of such documents even though he has the authority to do so. Of course he has been building up more loyalty with Republicans at least in the House so an impeachment attempt will not succeed unless his enemies can set up the right condition.

      Liked by 2 people

      • ablefox says:

        The crooked congress can never impeach Trump. As POTUS he has so much power at his fingertips he can blow them out of the water at will, if he cares to do it.

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      • bofh says:

        “Of course he has been building up more loyalty with Republicans at least in the House”

        Objection! Statement of facts not in evidence. I wouldn’t trust the GOP congress-critters beyond maybe a couple (Nunes, Jordan, ?Gohmert, ?Scalise), and definitely not “leadership” at all.

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      • Linda says:

        Let’s keep in mind that impeachment does NOT remove the President. Don’t forget that Clinton was impeached. The Senate ALSO has to vote to remove him by a two thirds majority. I seriously doubt they would get that. I’ve also read that while we are under a declared national emergency (which we are, if you recall from Trump’s 12/21 EO), that the President cannot be removed. So let’s don’t jump off any ledges just yet.

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        • Foolsgold says:

          2/3 senate as I understand it. Yip they have the votes but POTUS Trump has a lot of cannons such as us Deplorables who support the 2nd amendment plus evidence worthy of BIG LEAGUE TROUBLE for those in the evil departments and the 2 other rotted branches.

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    • Foolsgold says:

      Because he’s a patient man and ain’t fired Sessions and waits the big ugly just like us.

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  21. Mike says:

    ABC says, Comey’s book says, Comey knows of CLASSIFIED information about AG Lynch that;

    “if the information had become public, it would have been undoubtedly used by political opponents to cast serious doubt on the attorney general’s independence in connection with the Clinton investigation.”

    Opinion,
    This is a shot across Lynch’s bow. He has “EVIDENCE” on her that “political opponents” could use against her, IF she points fingers at Comey.

    This is a GOOD sign. It means, IF YOU TELL ON ME I”LL TELL ON YOU.

    It also shows the weak character of Comey. He will do what ever he has to to save his own ass.

    If the IG is honest, and a competent prosecutor who has some balls is assigned this is very much doable.

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  22. throughthetreesdarkly says:

    Is there a downside to President Trump declassifying those files?
    Other than MSM made up garbage?

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    • ablefox says:

      Thousands of cases will be up for grabs with good reason. All the cases any of these DOJ/FBI criminals were involved in can be appealed and overturned or get new trials. I hope the hell it is done. The FBI has lost all credibility. What juror will buy their baloney now? It is just getting worse. No crook will plea bargain. Think about it. Get a speedy trial and blame the FBI/DOJ. Their best hope will be never ending hung juries.

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      • Eris says:

        I’m all for letting those criminals go free to save the Republic. Many of them may be innocent too.

        Liked by 1 person

      • MM says:

        LOL funny you should mention Juries, I just got my summons for federal jury duty.. They won’t seat me due to the fact I plan on lighting them up as to what I think about the
        DOJ/FBI………

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        • ablefox says:

          I would love to get on a jury. Just answer the voir dire truthfully. I would not volunteer anything is what I would do. They never call me. I just think FBI is lost creds on many jurors. Nobody with a brain trusts them anymore.

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          • MM says:

            Look at pulse night club case the Prosecutors held back the info that Mateens father was FBI informant until the 11th hour.. I think that’s why she got off.. I do not trust the justice system at this time.. Look at the Bundy case….

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            • ablefox says:

              I know. State attorneys are prolly wondering if they should introduce FBI evidence for fear of losing a juror. Judges must be pulling their hair out. This is giving credibility to the nut job sovereign citizen crowd. If this stuff ever gets public just imagine.

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              • MM says:

                I get called like clock work for County and Federal grand jury duty.. I think it’s ever 7 years..
                Others I know have never been called… Why am I always getting called??

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        • Mike says:

          You should reconsider M

          You are the type of person who should be a juror.

          One other thought,

          Just because Comey, Strzok and McCabe and Mueller are rats does not mean every case by every FBI agent will be reviewed. The vast majority of cases were not touched by them.

          If the truth is what I believe it to be and the truth comes out, there will be changes made.
          But most important is these people NEED TO GO TO JAIL.

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          • ablefox says:

            Oh yes, it does IMO.

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          • CirclinTheDrain says:

            Anyone called for jury duty needs to remember two words: “jury nullification”. Learn it, don’t talk about it when being questioned, but use it when applicable.

            If more of us did this, unConstitutional laws would be ineffective.

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    • ablefox says:

      Judges will have to find jurors at the Zoo.

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    • Mike says:

      My 2 cents dark is

      You don’t want to declassify something that will damage a criminal investigation or prosecution.

      You don’t want to declassify something that compromises actual national security.

      Trump and his team can look at anything. They are better informed than I about when and what to declassify.

      As long as Nunes is not complaining about what was redacted I’m satisfied.

      To me the whole thing is the IG. If he is honest, even if the dems win back the house, the truth gets out. Then, if the truth is what I believe it to be, PEOPLE NEED TO GO TO JAIL.

      We need an honest prosecutor who is experienced, a patriot, who won’t be intimidated.

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      • ablefox says:

        I think it would be a good thing to declass exculpatory evidence in any and all criminal cases myself. All exculpatory evidence should be admitted, in every case is what I think. Regardless if it is ‘classified’. Jurors do not have ‘security clearance’.

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        • Mike says:

          The prosecution is REQUIRED to turn over ALL exculpatory evidence. If they don’t perps get a do-over or go free. I have read of several Obama justice department prosecutors excoriated by federal judges for NOT doing that. None that I know of were fired or really disciplined.

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  23. Ryan says:

    Nothing really surprises me anymore. Anyone who REALLY wants to know whats going on should definitely check this out, its a pretty scary warning from a history and religion professor. Pretty damn eye opening: https://ancientprophecy.weebly.com/

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  24. Stormyeyes says:

    Interesting?

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  25. youme says:

    Please note that this is an NBC report

    Mueller: Offering pardons to people amounts to obstruction of justice.

    “Prior to Monday’s raid, Mueller’s team had been aiming to finalize a report on its findings on whether the president has tried to obstruct justice in the Russia investigation in the coming months, as early as May or as late as July, three sources said. That timeline hinged in part on reaching a decision on a presidential interview, these people said. One person familiar with the investigation described a decision on an interview as one of the last steps Mueller was seeking to take before closing his investigation into obstruction.

    Now, according to two sources, Mueller’s team may be able to close the obstruction probe more quickly as they will not need to prepare for the interview or follow up on what the president says.”

    Mueller intends to smear Trump by alleging obstruction in four different ways:

    “Three sources familiar with the investigation said the findings Mueller has collected on Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice include: His intent for firing former FBI Director James Comey; his role in the crafting of a misleading public statement on the nature of a June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between his son and Russians; Trump’s dangling of pardons before grand jury witnesses who might testify against him; and pressuring Attorney General Jeff Sessions not to recuse himself from the Russia investigation.”

    Source
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-mueller-teams-prepare-move-forward-without-presidential-interview-n865421

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    • benifranlkin says:

      That is so so weak

      Liked by 7 people

    • Eris says:

      If this isn’t the usual fake news and it may not be since Comey is pushing the same thing in his fiction book then Team Trump needs to burn Team Mueller down in public including the full declassification action. This is because impeachment is a political process so we want CONgress not to be able to take any impeachment action using Team Mueller’s final report.

      Team Trump already started the offensive on Team Mueller (including Rosenstein) and it’s a target rich environment with all the conflict of interest issues that were left relatively unchallenged until now.

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    • Newt Love says:

      > “…the findings Mueller has collected on Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice include: His intent for firing former FBI Director James Comey; his role in the crafting of a misleading public statement on the nature of a June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between his son and Russians; Trump’s dangling of pardons before grand jury witnesses who might testify against him; and pressuring Attorney General Jeff Sessions not to recuse himself from the Russia investigation.”

      1, “Intent” WTF, is Mueller a mind reader? (next)
      2. “… misleading public statement…” If it wasn’t under oath, it is just “spin”
      3. “… dangling of pardons…” Welcome to the big-leagues (Bigly), you stupid Special School Counselor!
      4. “… pressuring AG Jeff Sessions not to recuse himself…” Surprise! Did Mueller miss the FACT that AG Sessions did recuse himself? So how did Trump stop AG Sessions from recusing himself?

      Mueller must be a low IQ Attorney, but I repeat myself.

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      • Stab, the unstoppable hero says:

        Wow. Mueller is worth every penny. Wasn’t Comey fired on the recommendation of Rod Rosenstein. The third member of Mueller’s menage a trois.

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      • margarite1 says:

        I thought Sessions recused without first telling POTUS – which made DJT furious.

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        • Troublemaker10 says:

          Sessions submitted resignation and Trump refused it. So much for obstruction.

          ————

          “President Trump asked for Attorney General Jeff Sessions to resign after learning there would be a special counsel investigating his campaign’s ties to Russia, and following a humiliating dressing down in the Oval Office, Sessions sent a letter of resignation — however, the president ultimately did not accept it.”

          Source:
          https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jeff-sessions-sent-trump-a-resignation-letter-in-may-after-humiliating-oval-office-meeting-report

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          • churchmouse says:

            The article says that Mike Pence, Steve Bannon and Reince Priebus came to the rescue, because the President was furious.

            Some might call this fake news, but the following is worth noting (emphases mine):

            ‘White House Counsel Donald McGahn received a call from Deputy Attorney Rod Rosenstein saying he had appointed Mueller to be a special counsel for the investigation. McGahn then told the Trump, Sessions and administration advisers, who were in the process of discussing a replacement for fired FBI chief James Comey.

            Trump went on to berate Sessions — who had recused himself from the investigation and thus paved the way for a special counsel — by calling him an “idiot” and saying choosing him to be attorney general was one of the “worst” decisions he had made. He then demanded Sessions resign.

            ‘According to the report, Sessions was “emotional” when he left that Oval Office meeting, agreeing to resign. Later that night as the Justice Department publicly announced the appointment of Mueller, Sessions wrote his short letter of resignation.

            ‘Meanwhile, Vice President Mike Pence, then-White House chief strategist Steve Bannon and then-Chief of Staff Reince Preibus intervened and convinced Trump to allow Sessions to stay.

            ‘Sessions allegedly told his associates following the Oval Office incident “that the demeaning way the president addressed him was the most humiliating experience in decades of public life.”

            ‘According to the Times, Trump returned Sessions’ resignation letter to him — which included a handwritten response.’

            I mention this, because this week, I have been going through my bookmarks of news about HR McMaster. There were bits of truth in all of those ‘sources say’ articles — including those by Mike Cernovich. Putting them together in chronological order, one can understand why McMaster got the sack. Trump was angry with him after their first meeting in February 2017, shortly after he was appointed NSA.

            I have a load of bookmarks on Sessions, which I will analyse similarly when the time comes.

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      • bookman says:

        It’s all fake news. The intention is to goad DJT into firing Mueller, which won’t happen.

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        • Newt Love says:

          After weeks of lying Communists (reporters) yelling “Are you going to fire Mueller?” at PDJT as he walks somewhere, he recently said “If I wanted to fire him, don’t you think he would be gone by now?”
          (As in: STFU, but a POTUS can’t say that.)

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      • bookman says:

        Thought crime? Orwell was right!!!

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    • 4harrisonblog says:

      Lol!

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    • ablefox says:

      Muelley is a maniac.

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    • missilemom says:

      Its all about what Joe DeGenova stressed on Laura Ingraham show tonight; Mueller is not going after a crime, he is setting Trump up for impeachment which is political.

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    • Mike says:

      If that turns out to be true I will give a big sigh of relief.

      This will of course be tried in the court of public opinion.

      Compared with the LIES, DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE, BRIBES, PAY FOR PLAY BY CLINTON INC, etc etc of the Clintons, this isn’t even a parking ticket.

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    • ablefox says:

      it is impossible for the President to ‘obstruct justice”.

      Article 2 Section 2.

      The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States; he may require the opinion, in writing, of the principal officer in each of the executive departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices, and he shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.

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    • Convert says:

      What embarrassing b.s. Rosenstein recommended firing Comey, for a host of reasons, and Trump is his boss. Writing letters defending your son’s against a political dirty tricks is no crime either. Again the Maddow Party ( about 25% of Americans) will be ecstatic. The other 75% is getting really, really, really, really tired of this multi-million dollar nonsense and abuse of power. The Dems are playing with fire.

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  26. Stormyeyes says:

    would never stand up not crimes’

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  27. Blade says:

    Start by declassifying the 99-page opinion of FISA Court Presiding Judge, Rosemary Collyer. Remove all the redactions and let us see who the FBI/DOJ officials were allowing to have access to the NSA database to conduct searches. Then declassify the full FISA Title-1 surveillance application used by the FBI and DOJ against U.S. person Carter Page.

    I’m a huge fan of declassifying these days. We have way too many secrets now, and most are ludicrous. Keep only the most critical items secret and those are self-evident ( nuke specs, radar and satellite resolution and capabilities, computer processing power, etc ) but budgets and most everything else, NO.

    Having said that, I’m not sure Sundance that the doc you mentioned above is even owned by the executive branch. In fact I can’t really see how the White House can declassify anything from the judicial branch absent a new law revamping how secrets are handled in each branch ( this IMHO would be Constitutional as the Constitution is silent on this ). Why do you think the White House can touch that one?

    I go back to what I always thought though. The Framers made a mistake by writing a Constitution that requires a citizenry with the integrity of those of that era, which collapses in an era such as ours where there is very little of it. What should have been done is create a fourth branch which does nothing but investigate and prosecute all infractions of the other three.

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    • WSB says:

      The Founders always knew we needed to have a moral and educated public to self govern.

      If we are to claw back this Republic, we will need to re-educate the people to again educate themselves to attain the strength and independence to select better representatives.

      We will either rebuild this Republic or be faced with another civil war.

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    • Foolsgold says:

      I think congressional term limits might have been a better idea but hey I’m just a bird on a branch patiently watching/waiting. However, complete revolt via 2nd admendment rights does wonders for me too.

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      • Blade says:

        No, you’re right. If the President gets a limit ( didn’t need one prior to King Franklin ) then Congress sure needs one.

        It is instructive that when they ( Congress ) had an easy chance to get it done by adding it to the 22nd Amendment before it was sent to the States for ratification, they refused. It is the height of hubris for them to continually fail to vote out an Amendment to the States every time it is tried. The balance of power is a joke now.

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    • kroesus61 says:

      the Collyer opinion piece may meet your criteria but the 2 page FISA application certainly does not as it was submitted by the DoJ which last I checked is still a part of the executive branch

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    • SteveT says:

      “Blade says:
      April 12, 2018 at 10:19 pm

      Start by declassifying the 99-page opinion of FISA Court Presiding Judge, Rosemary Collyer. Remove all the redactions and let us see who the FBI/DOJ officials were allowing to have access to the NSA database to conduct searches. Then declassify the full FISA Title-1 surveillance application used by the FBI and DOJ against U.S. person Carter Page.
      …….
      Having said that, I’m not sure Sundance that the doc you mentioned above is even owned by the executive branch. In fact I can’t really see how the White House can declassify anything from the judicial branch absent a new law revamping how secrets are handled in each branch ( this IMHO would be Constitutional as the Constitution is silent on this ). Why do you think the White House can touch that one?”

      The FISA application is a DOJ document and could be declassified by Trump. The 99 page opinion of Judge Rosemary Collier is only a response to the request of a copy of the same FISA application held by the FISA court. In that response I believe Judge Collier said she would release it, if requested/authorised by the DOJ (whom she considered to be it’s owner). If this is correct it would only take an instruction to write that permission from the DOJ.
      The ensuing release would reveal whether there are any differences and achieve the desired end. If the request was still refused it would call into doubt the credibility of the court and could also be construed as obstruction of justice by the court.

      There could only be a “classified” problem in the FISA court copy if there are differences, as otherwise it would be identical to the original application which would have already been declassified.
      Any redactions would highlight that there are differences where there should be none, that alone would be a start for further actions.

      SteveT

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  28. Greg says:

    Why can’t he get an injunction from Federal Court/Supreme Court forcing all seized documents to be handed to court control until claims of bias/fruit of poison tree etc are settled? Use the left’s own tactics. And also declassify the documents as Rand says. The ‘small group’ are cocka hoop they have got black years of material for leverage with leaks. This is WAR..

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    • Carrie says:

      I also liked Dershowitz’s suggestion to have a judge get a hold of all of the papers collected from Cohen’s office and the judge can be the taint wall. There is just no way the FBI can be a taint wall – it’s virtually impossible they won’t leak. They can use the latest story about the doorman as evidence of leaking and therefore they are unqualified to determine what papers to keep or to look at (in addition to all of the other established leaking and bias like the Strozk/Page texts, McCabe and Comey etc.). That will also slow everything way down and give PDJT more time to strategize further.

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      • Avi says:

        well I hope that has been done/started/

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        • Mike says:

          Carrie
          If Mueller was honest he would have done just what you said. It would eliminate any appearance of impropriety and prevent an argument that Mueller’s people leaked or misused privileged information.

          The fact that didn’t reinforces my belief that the intent of this warrant was to intimidate, and to let his people thumb through privileged documents.

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      • ablefox says:

        Enter Leon and ‘The Good Faith Exception’. They are so corrupt.

        My bet they will try this scheme.We shall see.

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        • Mike says:

          Good point fox

          I suspect Mueller found some crime, campaign finance violation for example, that he used to get the warrant. That gets him inside and lets him look at all the documents. That part probably flies.

          But is was a no knock. I want to read the facts of the warrant and see where either Cohen was armed and likely to fight, or would destroy evidence. It’s pretty hard to flush paper files and computer hard drives down the toilet.

          That is where I suspect the fudging was done, for intimidation purposes.

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    • Stringy theory says:

      Agree 100 percent.

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    • ablefox says:

      They are going to try to use the Leon ‘good faith exception’ and all the Wavy Gravy waivers is what I thinks. They will claim they really believed in the Pee Pee Papers. I bet the IG report will be a bunch of Hoggwash. JMO do not bet the ranch.

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  29. Stringy theory says:

    I’m becoming a Rand Paul fan. Do it Mr. President, declassify the damn stuff and let them explain their corruption. It’s time to bring the hammer down!

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  30. Nigella says:

    I’m losing my patience… release them already and the IG report also… Mueller is threatening to charge Trump with a a bunch of bogus charges…

    Liked by 1 person

    • ablefox says:

      He can’t charge Trump with anything at all. Nothing. He is ‘tainted’. He is just trying to suck up evidence of his own and the rest of the Unity crooks crimes and hide it in an ‘ongoing investigation scheme’.

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  31. graphiclucidity says:

    If you’re wondering what’s taking so long with the Horowitz/Huber investigation, and the DOJ/FBI/State responding to document requests and subpoenas, look no further than this example.

    Rand Paul sends a letter on January 30, 2018 asking three simple questions.

    The FBI official/office, whose only job is to liaise with Congress, responds with one paragraph and one sentence of platitude a full two months later on March 30.

    It’s like pulling teeth in slow motion to get anything from anybody at any time in D.C.

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  32. The Jimmy Jackz says:

    Preach it Rand!

    This is what I’ve been saying – DECLASSIFY IT ALL.

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  33. WSB says:

    Is Rand one of PT’s assets?

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  34. Before I start reading the 300+ posts here, let me post a concern I had from the beginning of all of this.
    If they can do this to the President, what chance does an average citizen have against the Federal Government?
    Paul said it today and he is 100% correct.

    Think about what has been happening. The most powerful man in the world today cannot stop the Intel Community for investigating a crime that he has been cleared of for over 1 year.
    There is no collusion.

    What there is and has been is a secret Government conspiracy that has from the beginning tried to undermine the will of the people.
    There was and has been corruption at the highest levels of my Government. There was and is plot to attempt to remove a standing President.

    And there is an organized attempt to manipulate the people through the MSM, organized leaks, and the willful planting for false stories.

    We have seen it all this time in one election. From the DNC screwing the voters out of their candidate to the last Administration spying on an incoming President.
    I am not clear what the Russians or any other foreign power could have done that could even hold a candle to what our own Government has done to undermine Americas election process.

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    • ablefox says:

      You haz zero chance. No chance at all. Lookit the Bundy case for example. Hope for the Nuke Option. Ya can’t fight City Hall. You could at least spend yer 20 year sentence in the prison law library filing appeals for something to do.

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  35. Mary Morse says:

    There is interesting information in a wiki article about The Puzzel Palace by James Bamford
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Puzzle_Palace
    …”According to the NSA’s history, “the document, with some Justice redactions, contained a good deal of information about the NSA-GCHQ [Government Communications Headquarters, a British intelligence agency] relationship, and served as the basis for Bamford’s information on Second Party issues [i.e., issues regarding outside agencies with which the NSA had partnered].” The NSA history dryly notes that “GCHQ was not amused” about the disclosure.”…

    …” The NSA account also describes how Bamford drove through the NSA parking lot, recording diplomatic license plates and cross-checking them against known lists to determine which countries maintained representatives at Fort Meade.”…

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    • Blade says:

      “GCHQ was not amused”

      Screw the limeys. We’re not amused. This is the tip of the iceberg, but one that scraped a passing passenger liner and caused it to sink. The iceberg needs to be destroyed.

      The entire Five Eyes arrangement must be exposed and scrutinized down to each and every nut and bolt, and if it topples governments in the UK, Aus, NZ and Canada, so be it. And if anyone thinks Five Eyes excludes bilateral arrangements with France and others I got a bridge for sale.

      Some folks have known about this longer than others but cannot really talk about it. Most people should have become aware with the Snowden leaks. Some a little earlier with Kimdotcom. Actually that last one there should have warned people of a big problem that results when the Five Eye arrangement makes a pet lackey out of a foreign government. In that case, the Hollywood copyright mafia who heavily lobby (D)ummycrats and hated the “perp” because his cloudsite wasn’t willing to police their users as they demanded, called in their marker with USA Attorney General Eric Holder who called in a favor with the USA pets in the New Zealand government. Next thing you have is black helicopters and FBI agents raiding a private residence. Hollywood-Dummycrats-Authorities.

      That alone is all the reason needed to vaporize this spy network, not to mention lock up the Hollywood mafiosos and Eric Holder and every agent involved for life. That is every concept of authoritarianism and tyranny rolled up in a single nutshell ( to mix a bunch of metaphors ). It can happen to anybody, well except a leftist of course.

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  36. Mike diamond says:

    They never broke into Hillary’s lawyers office! And Hillary bleach bit her computer!!!! Muller has gone too far!!! What about Bill and Hillary’s charity? The pay for play!???? It’s a shame!!!

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  37. Andy says:

    It would be ok to do that. But I’m not sure how just declassifying material will enlighten the public on what has taken place here. My guess is that a good part of the public looks at the Mueller investigation and thinks Trump has done something wrong. They have little understanding of the intricacies of FISA and the shenanigans engaged in by Democrats to undermine the election. But why should they understand? Daily they see Democrats point the finger at Trump and yell collusion or some other nonsense. Meanwhile, almost no one on the other side except tv personalities tries to correct the record.

    I think what’s needed here is an address to the nation by the President where he lays out in detail everything that has happened to include the political corruption at the DOJ and FBI, how they tried to influence the outcome of the election and take down the President, the FISA abuse, the collaboration of Hillary and Simpson to create and spread false information ultimately taken up and weaponized by the DOJ/FBI, and how the Mueller investigation plays a part in this effort. Something has to be done because it’s clear the public is mostly oblivious to what has really taken place. The dynamic of Trump and Republicans taking shot after shot day after day with little response has to change. And it’s only going to get worse with leaks from the Cohen material. It’s do something, or suffer the consequences come November.

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  38. Meyer Gordon says:

    Trump should heed Rands advice. Declassify. I fear what will come out of the raid on Cohen’s office.

    Sent from my iPhone

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    • WSB says:

      Nothing, NOTHING coming out if Cohen’s files will be any worse than the donestic and international murder and mayhem the Clintons, the Bushes, and the Obamas caused.

      Nothing.

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  39. OnlyInAmerica says:

    I’m with sundance. Let’s do this!

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  40. Trump KNOWS what the hell he s doin……I got no tin hat advice for the Fox,
    H e s ON IT

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  41. John says:

    they did not want to reveal who said what, because as Congress and Some Pro Trump Media find out, and connect the dots, they want to change, again (3rd time), the day they started the investigation, and who (in Trump’s camp) said what, which they will now say, began the investigation of Trump. This is all a smoke screen, to put time between, and divert our attention to, more important issues (because these are bogus: Hillary offensive) which are Hillary and Barrack’s selling our Uranium, paying Iran and other terror supporting States and organizations. They have zero defense of the PRIVATE servers used to hide their “State Department” official pandering.
    Expose these criminals. Start with the FBI and Brennan, then Hillary, then Brennan, then Barrack.
    Sworn to uphold laws, not make declarations breaking them (DACA). Not supporting terrorists and States supporting terror organizations( Iran). Controlling nuclear materials, not selling them to Russia!

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