President Trump Talks Trade and Agriculture With Meeting of Governors and Members of Congress…

As you are probably aware President Trump cancelled his visit to the Summit of the Americas in Lima, Peru this week; preferring to send Vice President Mike Pence in his stead.  U.S. Chamber of Commerce President Tom Donahue is in Peru and delivered the Wall Street positions on trade to the gathering. (More on that later).

It is critical to remember, at the epicenter of all political position is money.  All support and opposition to POTUS Trump surrounds the money. Under the foundation of ideology are financial benefits and/or lack thereof. [Ex. Chuck Grassley’s presentation of a bill to support SC Robert Mueller is directly tied to his purchased Big AG lobby position on trade via UniLever, ConAgra, Monsanto, ADM etc.]  The Wall Street coalition needs leverage against POTUS Trump to defend their financial positions. There are trillions at stake.

Directly related, today in the White House, President Trump -together with U.S.T.R Robert Lighthizer- met with an assembly of governors and congressional representatives to discuss trade and agriculture.  Each of these state and federal officials is part of the Big AG corporate purchase of policy.


When POTUS keeps the cameras rolling, it’s beneficial to pay attention.  Notice how President Trump is leveraging an agricultural benefit of ethanol against the financial influence of Big AG lobbyists who control the assembled politicians.

It’s a modern fact, albeit sickening in the big picture, that President Trump has to fight for the best outcome of America’s economic policy against special interests of U.S. politicians – who are purchased by lobbyist money to act against America’s best interests.

[Transcript] 11:07 A.M. EDT – THE PRESIDENT: So this is a group I like very much. We’re here to discuss agriculture — very important. And these are great people, great Americans, great patriots. And they’ve been treated very badly for a long time. And if you look at the farmer, it’s been, unfortunately, over a 12-year period, trending downward. Very much trending downward. So we’re changing things with respect to trade and trade with other countries.

A lot of times, the farmers sort of — they know what they have. But it’ll be very good when we get it all finished. It’ll be great. People are a little bit concerned going into that wild blue yonder, or, in our case, the wild red yonder. (Laughter.) But I will say that the farmers are going to be — they’re going to do fantastically well.

But they have been trending downward for a long period of time, and we’re not going to have that. A lot of it is because of bad trade deals.

So I’m pleased to be joined by several of our nation’s governors — very distinguished governors — and members of Congress to talk about trade and agriculture.

As you know, the recent investigation led by U.S. Trade Representative Bob Lighthizer — who’s with us today also — identified a pattern of chronic Chinese trading abuses, including theft of intellectual property and trade secrets, and forced technology transfers, which has cost this country hundreds of billions of dollars, and also, the targeting of American technology. It’s cost us untold hundreds of billions of dollars over the years.

Larry Kudlow is here and he’s shaking his head, approvingly — meaning, of what I’m saying.

KUDLOW: Yes, sir.

THE PRESIDENT: But disapprovingly of what they’ve done.

KUDLOW: Yes, sir.

THE PRESIDENT: As you are all aware, China has consistently treated the United States agriculture unfairly. I was very proud of something I did at Mar-a-Lago, in Florida. I had President Xi, who’s a friend of mine, who’s a very, very good man. And I don’t blame China; I blame our representatives that — our people over the past, our Presidents and negotiators and trade representatives — that they allowed this to happen.

But during a very brief conversation, I said, “President, the United States, we want to sell beef again to China.” Now, they hadn’t sold it in, what, 14 years or something. And he looked at me and he said, “Say it again.” I said, “We want to sell beef” — that’s a big industry — “in China.” And he said, “We will sell beef in China.” And we did other things too. But the one that really is the most interesting for the people at this table is beef.

And I think, Governor, that made a big impact, and they’re selling a lot of beef in China that hadn’t been — for 14, 15 years, they were not allowed to sell beef in China.

So we have the kind of a relationship that, I think, is going to be very aggressively sustained. Yesterday, as you know, President Xi made a very good speech, and he said he’s going to open up China. He’s going to open it up, take down a lot of the trade barriers — maybe all of them — but take down a lot of trade barriers.

And he’s going to get rid of a lot of the taxes or tariffs that they charge. Because, right now, if you have — and I use this example because it’s so easy — if we sell a car into China, number one, they won’t take the car; and number two, if they did take the car, it’s 25 percent tariff. Whereas we have no barrier, and when they sell a car into us, it’s 2.5 percent. So they have barriers, but when they don’t have barriers, it’s 25 percent versus 2.5 percent. That’s not a good way to make money. Chuck will tell you that. So we’re straightening that out.

We want to be reciprocal. So if they charge 25, we charge 25. If they charge 2.5, we charge 2.5. And maybe what happens is we both charge nothing, because I know we’d all like that. I think Ben would like that better than anybody, okay? That’s simpler than 25. Let’s save all the transfer of funds, right?

SENATOR SASSE: We need more trade.

THE PRESIDENT: So that’s what we want. We want more trade. We want no barriers. But the only way you can knock it down, you can’t just go in — for 25 years, Presidents have been trying to negotiate and they’ve been very unsuccessful, because they’d meet and they’d say, “Can we talk?” And the Chinese would say, “Yes, we can.” And that’s what they do — they talk for four years, then they’ll talk for another four years, and that would be the end of that. Nothing would happen. So nothing would happen. So we’re doing a job there.

NAFTA — we’re renegotiating NAFTA. It’s coming along great. I have no time. You know, I keep reading from the “fake news” media that we’re pushing it. I’m not pushing it; I don’t care. Oh, you’re laughing. That’s good, Chuck. See, Fox can smile because — (laughter) — you know, you do a very beautiful job.

But I keep hearing how we’re pushing NAFTA, we want it done. There’s no timeline. There’s no timeline. Now, in the meantime, nobody is moving into Mexico. Because as long as NAFTA is in flux, no company is going to spend a billion dollars to build an automobile plant.

So I say this — I’ve told it to the Mexicans: We can negotiate forever. Because as long as we have this negotiation going, nobody is going to build billion-dollar plants in Mexico, which is what they’ve been doing a lot. They have taken our auto industry by the throat. And so many jobs have been lost, so many massive plants have been built in Mexico. Top-of-the-line stuff. But it’s not happening now, and they’re coming back. Chrysler has moved back; a lot of them have moved back.

And the same thing with agriculture, which is going to be our predominant discussion today. So agriculture is okay with NAFTA. Not great. We’re going to make it great. We’re going to make it great. And we’re getting pretty close to a deal. It could be three or four weeks. It could be two months; it could be five months. I don’t care. In fact, if everybody in this room closed their ears, I’d say I’d rather terminate NAFTA and make a brand new deal, but I’m not going to do that because I want everyone to be happy in this room, okay? We’ll see how it goes.

But we’re going to make a fair NAFTA deal, much better than it is right now. NAFTA has cost this country hundreds of billions of dollars. It has been a disaster. We’ve lost 50,000 factories, millions of jobs. NAFTA has been a disaster.

So we’re going to either come up with a great NAFTA deal, and a fair one for this country, or we’re going to just do something else. And agriculture will be taken care of 100 percent.

So we’re going to have a discussion today and we’re going to talk about agriculture as it relates to trade, primarily. Again, we’re doing really well with China. I think we’re having some great discussions, and we’ll see what happens. We put a $50 billion tariff on, and then we put $100 billion tariff on. And, you know, at a certain point, they run out of bullets.

Remember what I said: When you’re $500 billion down, you can’t lose a trade war. And I won’t call it a trade war because it’s really a trade negotiation. But nobody ever negotiated from our side. Nobody ever did anything. All they did was talk. And in the meantime, we helped rebuild China because they took so much money — bridges, and airports, and military, and everything. They took so much — hundreds of billions of dollars out of our country.

So now we’re really negotiating, and I think they’re going to treat us very fairly. I think they want to. And again, I don’t blame my friend, President Xi. I blame our representatives, for years, that didn’t do a damn thing, and they allowed it to happen. I wish we could do what they did because that would make everybody at this table very happy. So perhaps we’re in the process of doing it.

The other thing is, if you look at the European Union — we’re talking to them — I don’t know if you realize it, but they have virtual barriers against even agriculture, from going in. So they sell us their Mercedes-Benzes, and they sell us their BMWs, and they sell all the different things. And we have no barriers whatsoever.

Hello, Pete. Good job you’re doing. Nebraska, folks. Doing a good job. He never liked me until we met. (Laughter.) Right? He was a Never Trumper. And his family.

GOVERNOR RICKETTS: No, that was my brother, Todd. (Laughter.)

THE PRESIDENT: No, the whole family. (Laughter.) And then I flew to Nebraska — a state I love — I made a speech, and he liked me. And from then on, he called his brother — he said, “Trump is good. Let’s be friends.” Then we became —

GOVERNOR RICKETTS: Well, remember in that speech, Mr. President, you vowed to open up the Chinese market to our U.S. beef. And you delivered on that promise.

THE PRESIDENT: And that’s what we’re doing, right? Did I deliver? I did that quickly.


THE PRESIDENT: In one conversation. So — good to see you, Pete.

So we are opening up the European Union or we’re not going to be very nice about it. At the European Union, we’ll lose about $151 billion this year. We lose with almost everybody. We lose with Canada. We lose with Mexico. We lose with the European Union. We lose with — certainly, we lose with China, Vietnam. I mean, no matter where you go, it’s very rare — very rare that our country has a surplus.

But we’re changing it. And, as Ben said, we want to have trade. And we want to have barriers taken down because the barriers, in many cases, are far worse than the tariffs. I mean, the tariffs can be bad, but the barriers are very bad.

So the European Union makes it very hard for agricultural products because their farmers don’t want you there. The farmers say, “We don’t want the American farmers.” But that’s not fair because we take all of their stuff. A lot of cars and lot of other things. So they’re going to have to take down the barriers because we can’t have it.

You know, when you think of European Union, you think so friendly, so nice. They’re very brutal to us in terms of trade. So we’re talking about that, too.

In the end, the farmers are going to be, I think, the biggest beneficiary from all of what’s happening. They are great people. We love our farmers. They were so good to me during the election, that whole — much more than center of the country. It’s a big group of people, Joni. Right?

But Sonny Perdue came, and he said, “Look at this.” And he hung up a map, and the whole thing is red. And those are those farmers, and we love those farmers. Right? We’re going to take care of the farmers. They haven’t been taken care of.

I mean, you just take a look at European Union. They virtually can’t do business. Take a look at China. Take a look at so many other places.

So we are going to finish off these trade deals. I’m going to ask Sonny, Secretary of Agriculture, to say a couple of words. I might ask Bob Lighthizer to say a couple of words, and maybe Larry Kudlow. And then we will get on with our meeting, and we’ll ask the media to head out of the room.


SECRETARY PERDUE: Mr. President, the people in this room, both in Congress and governors, represent some of the best people in America, and that is those people that you’ve used a word that I like to use about them. They’re “patriots” first. They’re Americans first.


♦SECRETARY PERDUE: They bring the hardworking ethics of the American spirit from their fields and farms and ranches across this country. And they support you. And they understand what you’re trying to do in calling the question — having the courage to call the question against people who have been cheating, both China and EU. The barriers that you describe actually punish American farmers more than a lot of other industries because the American farmer and rancher has been so productive. So they’re with you in that effort.

Obviously, from their livelihood perspective, we can understand their anxieties. And that’s what these people hear about on an ongoing basis. But I’ve been out last week on the road, assuring them what you told me, is that you are going to take care of the American farmer. You don’t expect them to be the only soldiers in this battle.

And, first of all, I think your point of what President Xi said over the weekend — I don’t think we’re in a battle yet. I think we have set the stage for a balanced negotiation that can happen. And that’s what all of us are hoping and praying for, that we get a good, sound, fair, balanced negotiation with all of these countries. And we applaud your leadership and courage in calling that question.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, that’s why I really called the farmers “patriots” — because they know what I’m doing. They had a group of 10 in one of the shows over the weekend, and they were farmers. “And do you agree what the President is doing with China?” And they all agreed. They all said, “Look, we may have to take a little bit of a hit.” I don’t even think they will. But in the end, the country is going to be much stronger; our country is going to be much stronger.

But more importantly, they’re going to be — everything is going to be better. Just everything is going to be better. And one of them said, “You know, most importantly, the country is going to be much stronger, but we’re going to make much more money.” They’re going to be doing much better.

And, you know, as an example, I’m working with Chuck Grassley, and with Joni, and with Deb, and — all of us, right? We’re all working together. And we’re working on the ethanol, and it’s really working out. I think it’s going to really work out. People have been talking about this for years. And we think we’re going to do something, I will say, early — and now this is no guarantee — but we’re going to raise it up to 15 percent, which makes a lot of people happy.

We’re going to go to 12 months, which makes a lot of farmers very happy — because we go from 8 months to 12 months, that’s a big difference. That was always unnecessary and ridiculous.

So we’re going to work out something during the transition period, which is not easy, very complicated, because we have to take care of our refineries. We have to take care of a lot of other people. But we’re working on transition now because there will be a two-year period of time that we have a little bit of complexity while things are happening, while things are being built.

But we’re going to be going probably — probably — to 15 [percent], and we’re going to be going to a 12-month period. So I think that’s going to be —

GOVERNOR RICKETTS : It’s a great deal.

THE PRESIDENT: Look at that big smile. All of a sudden, there’s a lot of smiles. (Laughter.)


THE PRESIDENT: And you know what? It’s going to solve a problem. And we’re going to be helping also — we’re going to be also helping the refineries. So the refineries are going to be able to do much better, because right now there are a lot of them that are not doing well. So we have to help the refineries. So we’re very close to getting that done and we’ve worked hard on that, Joni.

SENATOR ERNST: We really have. We have.

THE PRESIDENT: But it’s coming along very nicely.

Could I ask Bob Lighthizer to say a few words, please?

♦AMBASSADOR LIGHTHIZER: Sure, Mr. President. I would say, first of all, we’ll get into details about things in the private session, as you asked. Just preliminary — one, I talk to a lot of people around this room a lot. Everybody — I hope you all realize that I’m available to talk. I know this is in-time information, and consulting is important.

And I haven’t talked to all of you, but most of you I talk to a fair amount. So I want you to know that I welcome to do it. I’m happy to do it.

THE PRESIDENT: He’s working about 23 hours a day, and he sleeps for one. Look at him. I mean, is this guy — (laughter) he’s like exhausted.


THE PRESIDENT: That’s all right. That’s okay. You’re looking good. Go ahead.

♦AMBASSADOR LIGHTHIZER: I don’t look that bad, all right? (Laughter.)

So the second thing is, we tend to think a lot about agriculture as always on the defensive in all of these things. The fact is you can’t really find a serious market where we couldn’t do better in agriculture.

China, of course, we talked about the sales there, but they’re a fraction of what they should be — literally, a fraction. So we’re very much on the aggressive side as far as that goes.

Moving down quickly, of course, we’ve made enormous progress. People are aware of that. I feel — I agree with the President on everything, including we’re in no hurry on NAFTA. Having said that, we’re making progress on NAFTA.

Some of the people don’t focus on — we have 18 cases at the WTO where we are pursuing the interest of agriculture very — within the trading system, which is a very big part of what we do.

THE PRESIDENT: And we’re starting to get much better results at the World Trade Organization, WTO, because they know we’re not playing games anymore. You know, we’re going to get the results or they’re not going to be so happy. I mean, it was set up to hurt us.

I mean, if you look at it, 25 years ago, or whatever it was, it was really set up to take advantage of the United States, as far as I’m concerned. But we’re starting to get much better results, and that would make, I think, a lot of people very happy.

Go ahead.

♦AMBASSADOR LIGHTHIZER: I’ll just say, the final thing I had — and we’ll about this privately — but the China situation is a serious problem. Everybody realizes something has to be done about it. I’ll show you the numbers. They’re off the charts. It’s a real threat to our economy.

The President has a plan that you can draw, literally, back from June of 2016, where we talked specifically about what we would do. He ran on this issue. He has a mandate, and I’ll show you every moderate, reasonable, well-studied step we’ve taken — I’ll do this in private, of course — and you can see how we got here in a very moderate, reasonable way.

But it’s just not an issue that can be further kicked down the road. We expect to continue to do it that way, and you get a good result, Mr. President.

THE PRESIDENT: Good. Thank you very much, Bob. And you really are doing a great job. I appreciate it. But we want to see the end result — because it doesn’t matter what happens during the course, it’s the end result that counts.

I just — while we’re talking about China, we are getting along very well. I think we’re going to do some great things. But very importantly, they’re very much helping us at the border of North Korea and they’re continuing to. And, you know, they view it as something they should do. I think it’s certainly very beneficial to them. Getting rid of nuclear weapons is very good for them. Good for everybody.

But they have really been a great help to us at the border of North Korea, and maybe that all plays into what we’re doing because I think it does. I think everything does. But perhaps that’s one of the reasons that they are so helpful. They’ve been really terrific in helping us get to some kind of a settlement.

Meetings are being set up right now between myself and Kim Jong-un, who will be — I think it will be terrific. I think we’re going with a lot of respect, and we’ll see what happens. So we’ve come a long way. But China has really helped us at the border, and we appreciate it. Okay?

Larry Kudlow.

♦KUDLOW: Yes, sir. Thank you. Let me just add on. Trump economic policies have designed and succeeding now in promoting economic growth in the U.S. We’re already running over 3 percent growth from the last three quarters. People said we couldn’t, but we are. There may be a sloppy quarter in there someplace, but the trend is unmistakable.

I will say — you know me, I’m a growth guy — better economic growth helps everyone. Everyone. I don’t care what industry what sector, what state, what region. Growth helps everyone. The 155 million Americans are benefitting from growth. New businesses, existing businesses; new investments, existing investments. Getting rid of the tax burdens and the regulatory burdens help, and it’s paramount.

In connection with the President’s trade initiatives, these are designed to promote growth. If you lose sight of that, as we get into the various details, I urge you not to think of the worst case in every situation. I just urge you to do that. We’ve got one of the greatest negotiators on the planet. He’s laid out a menu of options. Everything is on the table. If he has to do it, he’ll do it.

But there’s also a positive side. As the President said, we’ve had good signals from China for change just in the past few days. The President signaled back. Great discussions are going on. The China initiatives, with respect to technology and barriers and autos and farming, this is all designed at the end of the process — I call it the end of the rainbow — to promote growth. There’s a pot of gold there. And if you open that pot, there will be better growth and more prosperity for every part of this country and every working person in this country. That’s the design, is not to punish; it’s to grow. We never talked about punishment.

And I spoke to a lot of House members and Republican (inaudible) just earlier this morning, and I said this, and I hope I don’t violate anything, sir: Stay with us while we go through this difficult process. Stay with us. And at the end, if the worst case has come out as the President said, you will be helped. That’s a promise. I echo that promise. But stay with us now. The next few months could be very, very important. And if we succeed — and I do believe he’s going to succeed — growth is the dividend of prosperity, and we haven’t seen it in over 20 years.

So this trade initiative, as part of our growth policies, folds very nicely into lower tax rates and lower regulations. And President Trump has ended the war on business, and that’s part of this. We grow at 4 percent — who knows. This is good stuff, even though it’s difficult in the process, it’s all aimed at growth. That’s a Kudlow message. I’ve been saying it for many decades. I’m still saying it. And these are the best growth policies I’ve seen since I was a kid working for Reagan.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Larry, very much. Beautifully said.

Just to finish, we have some tremendous numbers coming out from companies. We have hundreds of billions of dollars pouring back into our country from our tax cut plan where money overseas is coming in, which, Larry, you often mention and talk about. Apple, as an example, is investing $350 billion in plants — which they don’t have too many of, but they will — and campuses and everything else.

Other companies are investing billions of dollars back in our country. So they’re bringing in billions of dollars, I would say ahead of schedule, even far ahead of schedule. And that’s going to create growth and jobs and everything else.

As you know, we had 32 solar plants, and of the 32, I think 30 were closed, Larry, right? There were — it’s a new industry, but they were getting absolutely killed by China and some others. And we put a tariff on those panels coming in, which were not nearly as good as the ones we make. And now we have two that are open. Can you imagine, of the 32, there were two that are — were just about limping along and barely open.

These two are now doing very well and they’re looking to open seven, eight, nine of the plants. Same thing with washing machines. They were dumping — if you can believe this — washing machines all over the country. Just dumping them. And we put a 30 percent tariff on, and now washing machine plants are expanding and opening in our country.

So I just want to use tariffs judiciously but it can certainly help. The steel and aluminum industry — 10 percent on aluminum. And you probably have seen, and I sort of thought this might happen, aluminum is down 4 percent since we put a 10 percent tariff on it. So someday, somebody is going to explain that to me. I didn’t think it would be that good; I thought maybe it would go up just a little bit.

Steel, we have taken the tariff off some countries when we’ve been able to renegotiate deals. For instance, in South Korea, when they heard they had to pay 25 percent tariff on steel coming in, they went absolutely crazy and we made a deal. The KORUS deal is now pretty much concluded. And we really made that, I would say, Bob, largely because of the fact that they did not like the fact that they were having to pay tariffs on steel.

So we’ve been able to — even the European Union, they’re not happy about the steel, and we’re negotiating with them. I don’t know that we would be negotiating without the steel. And I say, for them to hear, I couldn’t care less. They can hear it.

In some cases, people are paying tariffs and we’re taking in a lot of money for the country. Those tariffs are tremendous. We’re taking in a lot of money. Not so bad, either. But the tariffs have really helped us. When used properly, they really get people to the table. And that’s what we want. But I want people to the table, also, for our great American farmers for the ag industry. I love those people. We’re taking care of those people. And it’s working out really well.

So thank you all very much for being here. And thank you very much. Thank you.

◊Q Mr. President, is military action against Syria inevitable, sir? Is there any way to avoid it?

THE PRESIDENT: We’re having a meeting today on Syria. We’re having a number of meetings today. We’ll see what happens. We’re obviously looking at that very closely.

And I will be leaving here. I was there, and now I’ll be going back as soon as this meeting is over. But we’re looking very, very seriously, very closely at that whole situation. And we’ll see what happens, folks. We’ll see what happens.

It’s too bad that the world puts us in a position like that. But, you know, as I said this morning, we’ve done a great job with ISIS. We have just absolutely decimated ISIS. But now we have to make some further decisions, so they’ll be made fairly soon.

Thank you all very much. Thank you very much.


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106 Responses to President Trump Talks Trade and Agriculture With Meeting of Governors and Members of Congress…

  1. TMonroe says:

    “So we’re going to either come up with a great NAFTA deal, and a fair one for this country, or we’re going to just do something else.”


    Liked by 10 people

    • Howard Cosell says:

      Sort of on/off topic. I am one year younger than our VSG and I get tired just reading about what he actually does every day. The man is truly amazing!

      Liked by 23 people

      • Dekester says:

        Yes H/C,
        The rest of your politicians and Media hacks are slugs. He has them exhausted, they are always chasing yesterday’s news.
        All the while he is on to the next important topic that concerns everyday Americans.

        He really is quite the human being, physically,mentally and spiritually.

        The drones that nip at his heels are powerless to stop him. He is simply too nimble and agile of foot and mind for them to have any chance.

        God bless PDJT.

        Liked by 21 people

  2. Mary kate says:

    Thank you Sundance!

    Liked by 5 people

    • Caius Lowell says:

      Yes, thank you Sundance! “It’s a modern fact, albeit sickening in the big picture, that President Trump has to fight for the best outcome of America’s economic policy against special interests of U.S. politicians – who are purchased by lobbyist money to act against America’s best interests.” This quote makes me want to understand better the details of exactly how lobbyists purchase US politicians, especially lobbyists representing foreign interests.

      Liked by 8 people

      • Perot Conservative says:

        How do you expect young Biden to get multi Million deals with China when he’s a rookie?

        Liked by 9 people

        • Paco Loco says:

          These big money deals that magically go to the “special people” inside the beltway are what makes taxpayers sick. In DC it’s all about partisan patronage, fat cat lobbyists and vote buying over steaks and Merlot at Morton’s Steak House. The USCoC main goal is to transfer wealth and power from Main Street to the big special interests on Wall Street. We either kill the beast or the beast will kill us!

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  3. David says:

    he is making sh1t happen no doubt about it


    • fleporeblog says:

      He really is! Americans LOVE our President and I have no doubt about it. Checkout this post:

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      • fleporeblog says:

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  4. HBD says:

    So what’s up with ethanol? I missed something…

    Liked by 1 person

    • RedBallExpress says:

      I don’t know either but if you want to win Iowa you have to support ethanol. It doesn’t create energy and it rapes the land. By the way I grow corn.

      Liked by 3 people

    • CirclinTheDrain says:

      If I understood it correctly, the 15% ethanol will kill all the small engines. I guess small engine manufacturers will be ecstatic as well, as we’ll be buying new ones every few years.

      Someone in DC needs to get a clue. As a NYC guy I realize Trump probably never owned a piece of equipment with a small gas engine like us little people so he may not understand the problem, but it’s real.

      Liked by 2 people

    • sundance says:

      POTUS is considering raising the maximum ethanol content in gasoline from 10% to 15%. This makes Big-AG giddy…. (because it uses more corn and raises agriculture crop value.) Ethanol is also heavily subsidized by taxpayers, so tax revenue is transferred to the P-N-L results of ConAgra, ADM, UniLever, etc.

      In exchange for this potential…. Trump is requesting BIG-AG (corporate lobbyists and Wall Street) stop blocking his trade negotiations which help the rest of the U.S. economy.

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  5. Perot Conservative says:

    USA! USA!

    Liked by 1 person

  6. mikey says:

    Give Mexico an ultimatum. Stop the illegal aliens, the drug smuggling, the sex trafficking and the gun smuggling or NAFTA is toast.

    Trade deficits=Wealth redistribution

    Liked by 8 people

  7. TwoLaine says:

    I had to share this. Sound like anyone we know?

    Forbes Quote of the Day

    Sometimes my candor may be difficult for people to hear, but they can trust they know where I stand.
    ~Lori Garver, Former Deputy Administrator at NASA

    Liked by 5 people

  8. TwoLaine says:

    I’ve had to hold my nose to read through some of this.

    Liked by 1 person

  9. Buck Turgidson says:

    I would love to hear some of those midwestern congresspeople step up for “free trade” and call for an end to the massive subsidies to big ag for commodity production.

    Liked by 6 people

  10. fleporeblog says:

    Larry Kudlow is really beginning to impress me! I was so happy to hear the great things he had to say about our President! He is absolutely right that our President has the Economy humming at 3% GDP!

    Liked by 4 people

  11. Foolsgold says:

    So we’re going from 10% ethenol fuel to 15%? Please tell me I’m wrong.

    Liked by 2 people

    • progpoker says:

      Gotta give a little to get a lot!!
      Art of the Deal in action!!

      Liked by 3 people

      • fleporeblog says:

        It is also a few years away! I think our President is throwing them a nugget to get them to say go after China, EU, NAFTA etc. because you are doing this for my state. It buys our President and his KILLERS two years to renegotiate trade deals where Agriculture will flourish like it is nobodies business. At which point the nugget is no longer needed!

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        • fleporeblog says:

          Trust the plan!

          Our President said two beautiful words to his Secretary, “Energy Dominance”. Secretary Perry took those words and is completely running with them!

          Look what Treeper Psycho Monkee shared with me:

          My work is in natural gas production/transmission and it’s 🇺🇸STRONG🇺🇸 ‼I haven’t been this busy 💵💵💵💵 in years. President ❤ Donald ❤ John ❤ Trump rescued and resuscited the USA energy industry.

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          • holly100 says:

            Thanks for this!

            Liked by 1 person

          • fleporeblog says:

            Again TRUST THE PLAN!

            From the article linked above:

            Trump’s speech came amid surging optimism among American manufacturers thanks to the after-effects of the GOP’s recently-implemented tax reform law. More than 93% of manufacturers have a positive outlook on their company’s prospects in the U.S. economy – the second-highest level ever recorded by the National Association of Manufacturers – its most recent quarterly survey revealed.

            Meanwhile, optimism among small manufacturers was at its highest level ever recorded throughout the survey’s 20 year history; 94.5% of companies reported that they were positive about their future.

            Wage growth among those manufacturers surveyed also rose at the fastest pace in 17 years.

            The survey showed that manufacturers expected full-time employment to increase by 2.9% on average over the next year, an all-time high by the survey’s standards. Companies also said capital investments are likely to rise by 3.9% over the next 12 months, while inventories are expected to rise by 1.7%.

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            • Tiana says:

              Thank you flep for all the materials that you are providing that some of us can’t find / don’t have access to / or just plain don’t have the time to research. I also greatly appreciate the twitter threads that you provide since I am not on twitter…

              Then, as if it was not enough that you give us already recorded information, you broaden our mind with explanations that sometimes eludesome of us, or at least me…

              Please, don’t ever stop doing this… we need teachers like you… I appreciate it so very much… Thank you again… MAGA

              Liked by 3 people

            • itsarickthing says:

              Hot damn! Who doesn’t like to make something or be innovative here in The United States of America! For small potatoes such as myself it feels like I can breathe freely again.

              Thanks much fleporeblog for your continuously excellent posts.


      • Foolsgold says:

        Hey believe me I’m 100% behind Trump on reciprocal trade. You do know farmers can buy raw fuel for all farm equipment now and at about half the cost. I do, I own a farm and buy raw fuel from coop delivered right to my tank.

        Liked by 4 people

    • snarkybeach says:

      15% will kill my car…

      Liked by 2 people

    • holly100 says:

      Not happy about that either.

      Liked by 1 person

  12. formerdem says:

    I love that he doesn’t blame other countries that they take care of their own – of course they do. I love that he is focused on remedying the issues of our frailest and most unjustly treated. It’s his job and he’s doing it, while carrying the burden of jerks from Silicon Valley to Manhattan who side with big big money and won’t admit it. they just keep suckling at the flattery teat.

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    • Tiana says:

      Formerdem… No, our president will not blame other countries to take care of their own… he actually encourages it… It means that they will not be a burden to the rest of the world… all PDJT wants is fairness… He knows that if everybody does well (each country), their is a greater chance for peace in the world…

      That is also why he is working so hard for the American people to do better… he is trying with economic improvement to unite most of the people in this country again…

      It is also very important to expand our own manufacturing and using our own natural resources for better national/international security… because if we can produce the tools that our military needs right here at home, then we are not dependent on a possible enemy in case we ever get involved in a war… which I pray to God will never happen…

      In order to win though, we have to lose sometimes a little… it is the natural order of give and take… MAGA

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  13. We buy no ethanol for our small equipment, motorcycles and collectible cars. Use the regular gas at the pump for our regular day to day cars. No problems.

    Liked by 1 person

    • neal s says:

      If you get your gas at your local neighborhood gas station, then you are buying ethanol even if you don’t realize you are. The gas contains up to 10% ethanol. And you are buying it.

      I do hope before PDJT leaves office, that we will be rid of having to have any ethanol in our gas. It does not help engines and it is just a way to funnel subsidy money to big AG. I also hope that in time all subsidies be stopped. If it doesn’t make sense economically without a subsidy, then it should not be done. That would apply to solar and wind and electric cars.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Exactly, we never buy ethanol.


  14. White Apple says:

    I think Trump is wrong when it comes to ethanol……not a good deal, IMO.

    Trump owns one of the largest, if not the largest grape vineyard east of the Mississippi River. Trump has to be considered among the large farmers in America in terms of farm value.

    Liked by 1 person

  15. van winkle says:

    Even though Pres. Trump is on an island except for a couple hands full of loyalists he is still doing whats best for America. He was up front about short term pain due to tariff issue….but with pain there will be gain.

    Can you imagine what would happen in this country if he is somehow forced out of office??
    Keep praying for his protection. One prayer has been answered, Ryan is resigning!

    Liked by 2 people

  16. alliwantissometruth says:

    “It’s a modern fact, albeit sickening in the big picture, that President Trump has to fight for the best outcome of America’s economic policy against special interests of U.S. politicians – who are purchased by lobbyist money to act against America’s best interests”

    The sad & appalling statement above sums up exactly where we’re at today. The sickening gut wrenching reality is we don’t have a government, or rather a representative government of, for & by the people, we have enemy agents posing as representatives who abuse, rape & steal our wealth, our society & our country

    It is beyond disgraceful that the American people have fallen so far, that they’ve allowed an insidious cancer of propaganda, fraudulent ideologies & lies to completely neuter their power, brainwash their young & steal what was theirs

    Everything political, from the leftist dogma to “conservative values”, has been an outrageous lie. They use & abuse we the peoples emotions, values & dreams & play us against each other in order to enact their usurpation pf our power & wealth

    Neither the left nor the right’s agenda or ideological vision will be enacted once the globalist crime cabal has taken the power away from the people, yet both sides are falling for the bullshit

    Every politician, whether they work directly with the global cabal or indirectly by pushing an ideology / narrative manufactured to assist & empower the cabal, are taking away the God given rights of a free people to self governance, of choosing their own destinies & keeping the society they choose

    All of us are being taken to the cleaners, & all of us will suffer the consequences

    No matter if you like & agree with President Trump or you don’t, he’s the only one actually trying to wrest back the power & put it back into the hands of we the people. He’s the only one fighting for the American people, & I mean all of us

    I don’t care what side you’re on, as this has nothing to do with politics. This has everything to do with the power of the people being carved up & sold to the highest bidders, & we’d all better comprehend that fact & work to dislodge these “representative” imposters

    Liked by 3 people

    • scott467 says:


      All of them, except Devin Nunes, Jim Jordan, Bob Goodlatte, Matt Gaetz and maybe two or three others.

      And maybe Sen. Grassley.

      If there is any other Senator in the United States of America who is not wholly corrupt, I don’t know who that would be.

      So that’s about 527 members of Congress locked in cages in our military base in Cuba. Along with hundreds of wholly corrupt federal and state judges, and four Supreme Court justices.

      Better yet, transfer them to a military prison facility on Diego Garcia. As far away as possible.

      Then it’s waterboard time.

      And not for information, either.

      And when it’s time to test rockets for the next Moon or Mars mission, they get to draw straws to see who rides the rocket.

      Liked by 1 person

    • SkyPhoenix says:

      Great post, alliwant… if only we can find a way for today’s Americans to understand and believe it. Instinctively, many of them know deep down that the stealing has been going on. But then the MSM and educational system misdirection and brainwashing kicks in.

      Liked by 1 person

  17. scott467 says:

    “It is critical to remember, at the epicenter of all political position is money. All support and opposition to POTUS Trump surrounds the money.”


    Aren’t we past that, at this level?

    Don’t we get confirmation on a regular basis that ideology left ‘money’ behind as the primary motivator years ago?

    When Starbucks, or Dick’s Sporting Goods, or (fill in the blank) takes an overtly political position, guaranteeing to alienate at least half of their customer base, costing them BILLIONS of dollars in sales due to boycotts or brand-switching, it’s not about the money any longer.

    Which makes one wonder if it ever really was.

    Just because they are so obvious about their naked Marxist / Globalist anti-American political agenda now doesn’t mean that it hasn’t been that way — though carefully concealed — for generations.

    The difference now is the current generation of Leftists in corporate leadership are fascist zealots.

    Liked by 2 people

    • Col.Sanders says:

      Its about money to the politicians because its about money to their masters.
      Now they have leverage on Trump with Mueller; that the whole point of it all.
      They want him owned; just like they are.


      • scott467 says:

        “Its about money to the politicians because its about money to their masters.”


        That’s just it, I don’t think it’s about money to their masters.

        Once you have so much money that you could never spend it all, more of it doesn’t mean anything.

        But power and control does.

        I think that’s the game that is being played. The enslavement of the entire world to a handful of multi-billionaires and their quasi-state (without actual territory) support apparatus.


        “Now they have leverage on Trump with Mueller; that the whole point of it all.
        They want him owned; just like they are.”


        Then they’re stupid.

        Mueller’s so-called ‘leverage’ ultimately doesn’t lead anywhere, because there’s no ‘there’ there. He’s just making a fool of himself, and hopefully following a path that leads straight to the gallows.

        He and his minions with him.

        All of them.

        Right on up the food chain.

        Liked by 1 person

  18. 4harrisonblog says:

    Easy to see why the bushes voted for crooked hillary. They know they sold the United States citizens out just like the clintons did. These same people bushes and clintons brought us obama’s crime family. Crooked hillary and bushes couldn’t get as snakey/skankey/sneaky as obama.

    Liked by 2 people

  19. Donna in Oregon says:

    Looking at EU Ethanol policy:

    And then China:

    China’s New Nationwide E10 Ethanol Mandate and Its Global Implications

    President Trump is right. Demand for Ethanol is going up. Awesome 🙂

    Liked by 1 person

  20. 4harrisonblog says:

    President Trump has steel worker, miners, auto workers, farmers, factory workers, and the Crimson Tide football team to his White House. obama had hollywierds and lamestream media to his.

    Liked by 1 person

  21. scott volz says:

    BB is reporting that Sasse said he heard President Trump instruct Kudlow to see about getting us back in TPP. I see nothing in the official transcript about TPP. I think it’s fake news.

    Liked by 2 people

  22. GB Bari says:

    Trump is a wheeler dealer; a strong negotiator. He is absolutely right to do this – to try to get the Big AG and their lackey politicians to back off and let him negotiate without their special interests giving the Chinese leverage they would not otherwise have. I hope our President is successful.


  23. itsarickthing says:

    “…that President Trump has to fight for the best outcome of America’s economic policy against special interests of U.S. politicians – who are purchased by lobbyist money to act against America’s best interests.”

    That my friends, is where the rubber meets the road.


  24. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    Yes,ethanol in gasoline for small engines and older internal combustion engines really sucks, unless you have a modern flex fuel vehicle that is designed to use the 85% stuff. We are not going to get everything we want RIGHT NOW, but at least we will have a country with a middle class 20 years form now.

    Before the big oil companies came in with their monopolies, vehicles were designed to run on alcohol or diesel fuel in the early 20th century. Find Ethanol free gasoline here, just change the state:


    • G. Combs says:

      We only buy Ethanol free gasoline for our small engines and I TRY to make sure my 1987 Pkup only gets Ethanol free gasoline but Hubby is not as careful as I am* and it is tough if I have to travel out of the range for the truck.

      ** That is why I try to keep Hubby from driving my baby. She really hates him and is grumpy after he has driven her. — No lie. My Diesel Pkup doesn’t like him either!

      Liked by 1 person

      • Tiana says:

        Haha… I can just so imagine your grumpy vehicle… pouting and bucking…

        We have a gas station in the neighborhood used to sell ethanol-free gas, but it was so very expensive… I think they discontinued it because nobody bought it…


  25. jeans2nd says:

    The raise in ethanol percentage is a negotiating tool. The CoC will negotiate in bad faith, and lose. Pres Trump knows this.

    Further, in 5+ years, electric cars will be in more demand, especially autonomous electric cars. Ethanol will quickly become moot. The elimination of burdensome regulations will hasten the development of both electric and autonomous cars.

    No worries. Let them have them their ethanol. Who cares? Ethanol will not matter. Ethanol is only important for people who cannot see past the next earnings report.
    We are working for so much more.

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    • Foolsgold says:

      I’ll believe that when electric semi’s find it cheaper to operate electric trucks to haul freight on long hauls but not before and without tax exemptions. By the way I’m a EE retired.


      • Foolsgold says:

        Anyway, getting off my rant. The real issue now is the dirty dirty stinking hit man Mulehead going out the realm of a non-criminal case to do exactly what he was hired to do to our beloved president, us and American. It’s truly a conundrum we’re dealing with and I patiently passionately await the big ugly to offset muleheads and the cartels evil deeds.


  26. MontanaMel says:

    Maybe…in the big cities….you’ll see more than the token 1 or 2 electric cars…maybe, someday..

    ALL of our major brand stations in Montana have PURE GAS at their pumps in the 91/93 oct selection…ie: High test… Sure, it cost more than that crap ETHANOL infected regular 85/87 oct. A lot of this state is above 4,000 ft elevation – which is the altitude at which they can legally sell you 85 oct reg…cause it doesn’t knock like it would at a lower elevation!… This is mostly in the winter months when they don’t have to worry about Reid Vapor Pressure spec’s and “vapor lock”… Most of our stations revert to 87 oct regular come summer time fuel… Our high test is usually 30 cents/gal more than reg…but, some are now getting grabby and uping that to 40 cents/gal… ANd, BTW: in most cases, your 89 oct mid-grade is a simple mix of the other two…some high volume stations will actually “blend” from a pure ethanol tank as well, while delivering to your tank…but, not that many up here.
    The real trick would be to find some “domed pistons” for all of today’s engines…up the compression to where you can make use of that extra high oct in that pure gas grade…then, you’d make more power, and would find some amazing gas MPG figures….might even come out even! Aircraft, using a legal lic called an STC regularly use those ethanol free auto gas sources and save big bucks vs their “different” 100LL avgas at $5.00/gal most airports today… This is usually limited to “under 200 HP” engines and those without turbochargers…

    The increase to 15% for “all fuels” only means the regular/mid grades….and, where as now we change our fuel between winter and summer…they would stop that being required which make inventory and production much more economical for the refineries. All those of us WITHOUT the required “new engines”, ie: FlexFuel85, need to do is “blend our own at the pump”…A true PITA, but better and cheaper than rebuilding engines every other year!… Cut 15 gal of regular 15% with 5 gal of NON-ethanol and you’ll be close enough for govt work… Always remember to burn only “top tier” fuels – due to the deposits problems since they started allowing olifin’s in the blends…That substance is what your carpet is made out of … really makes the carbon in side your fuel/combustion systems… Only PEA will remove carbon deposits without damage…owned by Chevron USA…Look for “SEAFOAM” or some BG Products # 44K if you need some cleaning!

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  27. Sentient says:

    This may have been mentioned above in the comments, but apparently Sen. Sassehole of Nebraska said today that the president is open to joint TPP after all. Hope not.


  28. iwasthere says:

    So when do we get to see the COC presentaon – with video and audio??


  29. He’s talking about European Union and beef. He’s got 2 problems with agriculture: GMO and antibiotics. It’s not just the protection of European farmers by political means which is holding back the American acricultural products from accessing European markets. It’s also that people wouldn’t buy American food. GMO is allowed in America in products meant for human consumption and it’s known that American agricultural industry uses antibiotics way more loosely than farmers are allowed to do in Europe. Those 2 issues give American food products a terrible reputation in the eyes of European consumers. We love your brands, but don’t give us the tainted sh*t to eat which is allowed to be pushed on the Americans. We don’t buy food or cosmetics produced in China because of their questionable safety either. American food industry needs to improve their standards if they want access to European markets. Blocking GMO and antibiotics-rich food products from getting to the plates of European consumers is just about the only thing the European Union does right.


  30. woodstuff says:

    I disagree with the 15% ethanol in gasoline. Ethanol in gasoline destroys small engines and damages many automotive engines. I would agree only if ethanol-free gasoline would be available as an option…a mandated option.

    Perhaps our President didn’t mean 15% in gasoline, so I could be wrong.


  31. Buck Turgidson says:

    Agriculture in this nation is increasingly multi-national profit-driven production of commodities for export to China and elsewhere. Decreasingly local production of real food for local consumption. The big commodity MNC approach sucks up big government subsidies and is run by government largesse, not so much by supply–demand. Big MNC approach also rough on water and soil resources. Ernst from Iowa is completely out of her depth as elected official and hopefully she is a one-termer. Has absolutely no business being in Washington let alone US Senate, WAY over her head


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