Giddy Up – DOJ Admits They Have a Grand Jury Empaneled in FBI and DOJ Investigation…

Today chairman Bob Goodlatte sends a formal subpoena to the DOJ (Inspector General Michael Horowitz) for documents regarding the investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private email server, potential abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, and the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility recommendation to fire former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe.

However, it’s not the subpoena that should make the news.  Pay close attention to the DOJ response.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) is one of the top three people throughout the entirety of congress with a comprehensive knowledge of the events surrounding the investigations of the FBI and DOJ. Chairman Goodlatte is one of only four people outside the DOJ who have read the full DOJ FISA application used for a Title-1 Surveillance warrant of Carter Page.

The House Judiciary Committee holds the primary statutory oversight over the U.S. Department of Justice. Additionally, Chairman Goodlatte is the congressional office working closest with DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz. In short, Goodlatte is the center of all ‘oversight’ information circling the investigations into the DOJ and FBI.

However, all of that said, even Chairman Bob Goodlatte doesn’t, and shouldn’t, know what criminal investigations are underway.  We’ve explained this dynamic of disconnect numerous times.  We really began emphasizing this when AG Jeff Sessions admitted he brought in a prosecutor from outside Washington DC to work with Inspector General Horowitz.

You can read the Goodlatte Subpoenas – HERE – along with the letter that accompanies his demand.   However, more important is the response from the DOJ as communicated by Fox News journalist Chad Pergram (emphasis mine):

(LINK)

Oh, what’s that?  Yes, the DOJ has to review the demand for evidence because release of those documents might conflict with ongoing Grand Jury information (evidence).  Yes, that means a Grand Jury is impaneled, exactly as we expected.

Yes, that also means there are “law enforcement actions” currently ongoing as a result of the prosecutor assigned to reviewing the evidence discovered by Inspector General Horowitz.

Are there still those who doubt?

There has been a great deal of consternation, directed toward AG Jeff Sessions surrounding the ongoing FISA abuse scandal and the larger issues of unlawful DOJ and FBI conduct in their political investigation of candidate Donald Trump. It is a matter of great division amid people who follow the details.  Yet there is overwhelming evidence he assigned a prosecutor to conduct a criminal investigation of the FBI and DOJ “small group” a long time ago.  Now we know, with certainty, a GRAND JURY is empaneled.

… I have appointed a person outside of Washington, many years in the Department of Justice to look at all the allegations that the House Judiciary Committee members sent to us; and we’re conducting that investigation. (read more)

Evidence of this prosecutor, and the Grand Jury, was also visible within the firing of FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. –SEE HERE– We’ve been talking about this since it became obvious someone was giving information to congressional investigators.

♦First, the question:  If Jeff Sessions has appointed a prosecutor to work with Inspector General Horowitz, why do congressional reps keep asking for a second special counsel?

The answer is a lot simpler than we might think: They don’t know.

The legislative branch of the government doesn’t know what the criminal investigations are of the executive branch of government; AND AG Jeff Sessions has repeatedly said his intention is to restore the proper, appropriate and professional standards of the U.S. Department of Justice.  (ie. no talking about criminal investigations)

Within this specific investigation there is a triple role.  ¹A DOJ Inspector General conducting an internal investigation; ² Appropriate congressional oversight; and ³ the collection of evidence that might also be used in criminal indictments.

Within the IG collection of evidence there are two competing issues:  #1) Evidence of misconduct and political bias (shared openly with congress and oversight); and #2) evidence of illegal activity (retained from congress to preserve integrity of evidence for later used in criminal proceedings); this is where the “outside DC prosecutor” comes in.

Which brings us to point #2

♦Accusations of DOJ hiding evidence from congress.

Several congressional representatives have stated the information about Judge Rudolph Contreras was not readily know because his association with Peter Strzok was redacted within text messages sent from DOJ to congress.  Therefore the DOJ is trying to hide damaging information.  That claim is not the correct framework/context.

Congress as a whole (reps, staff and investigators) can go to the DOJ and look at ALL unredacted text messages.  However, if congressional staff wish to take copies with them the copies must be redacted. Why?  Because, just like the Contreras issue within the Strzok and Page text messages, there’s a possibility specific texts are evidence of a crime.

Go back to December 2nd, 2017, when the first reports of the IG investigative findings were hitting the news media and you’ll note IG Horowitz said he has no issues with congressional oversight getting his investigative evidence with the approval FROM the DOJ.   In this example the “prosecutor”, working with Horowitz, has to make a determination if a potential criminal case would be compromised by allowing the release of specific information/evidence gathered by the Inspector General.

Lastly, where all this appears to be going.  It is not likely there will be a ‘second special counsel’ per se’.  With a prosecutor already working with Inspector General Horowitz that person already has a thorough knowledge of all the evidence.  As soon as the IG publishes his report, the prosecutor can begin subpoenaing witnesses.  And now we know there’s already a Grand Jury seated somewhere hearing the criminal evidence he/she has carved out from the overwhelming IG evidence as collected.

You and I might be frustrated with the pace of the activity for a myriad of righteous reasons.  However, we must also remind ourselves of the scale and scope of the corruption here that is inherent within the BIG PICTURE.  All of this was done on purpose.  None of this was accidental.

The prosecutor could, likely would, be having to outline the biggest political conspiracy in the history of politics.  It is entirely possible officials within the CIA, NSA, DOJ, FBI, State Department, ODNI, and national security apparatus along with the Obama White House, Clinton campaign officials, politicians, career bureaucrats and possibly judges are all entwined and involved.

Add into this likelihood the complicit ideological media who will go absolutely bananas about any single member of their team being indicted; and a better than average chance the media will follow instructions from their leadership and send tens-of-thousands of low-info sycophants into the streets in protest, and well… you see the picture.

The left only know one narrative: “Jeff Sessions is doing Trump’s evil bidding.” That’s it. That’s the drumbeat. 24/7/365 That’s the narrative pushed over and over.

Just look at the media reaction to Andrew McCabe’s simple firing, which Trump had nothing to do with, and think about what their response would be to indictments?

Resources:

♦Remember – Someone’s doing the Investigations and Interrogations – HERE

♦Jeff Sessions affirms IG looking at FISA Court Abuse and Illegal Representations – HERE

♦Jeff Sessions confirms appointment of “Federal Prosecutor” working with OIG Michael Horowitz – See Here

♦McCabe firing shows evidence of a Federal Prosecutor and Grand Jury – SEE HERE

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730 Responses to Giddy Up – DOJ Admits They Have a Grand Jury Empaneled in FBI and DOJ Investigation…

  1. Perot Conservative says:

    Thank you, thank you, thank you!

    Hugely complex … historic … potentially reaching the White House.

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  2. jello333 says:

    If it’s already been mentioned, I can’t find it… but WHO at the DOJ wrote this response?

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  3. jogreggre says:

    Forgive my stupidity and/or ignorance, but could the DOJ’s reference to Grand Jury information, be a reference to information that is somehow related to the Grand Jury impaneled by the Mueller Investigation?

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    • Deusvult says:

      Possible but in context with Sessions remarks on outside person appointed and OIG Investigating while McCabe has no access to all information regarding the wider case.. no. This is different.
      Also note that Sessions is recused regarding Mueller and couldn’t be speaking about Mueller the way he talked with Bream.

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    • Fannie says:

      My understanding is that Mueller moved special counsel offices to DC and used a sitting grand jury in DC versus empaneling a special grand jury.

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    • marc says:

      The reference is directly related to the Clinton emails. Read the subpoena, footnote 1. Separate issue unrelated to Mueller.

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    • lfhbrave says:

      I would say this is the most likely scenario. It refers to the Mueller’s grand jury both in DC and N. VA pertaining to Flynn and the greek-named guy and other sealed indictments.

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      • Perot Conservative says:

        But I don’t think this makes sense at first blush.

        1. Sessions said he brought in an prosecutor from outside. (Mueller and team already in place for a year.)

        2. They said the McCabe information was cleaved off of a larger investigation, but I’ve never heard Mueller’s leaks referencing going after McCabe.

        (Unless Mueller turned over a new leaf and looked for malfeasance on both sides of the isle. But I doubt this for 2 reasons. One, the makeup of his team. And second, they leak like sieves, typically about going down another rabbit hole chasing Trump 20-year-old business deals, coffee boy, etc. There never seems to be anything meaty there beyond Manafort.)

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  4. Badabing says:

    The need for the second special counsel is due to IG Horowitz not having oversight of DHS or State Dept. He is therefore not able to gather evidence of corruption there.

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  5. Thank you! Hope part of that IG investigation, and further actions, include the inaction of the DOJ/FBI to hold states accountable for the kidnapping of children from their families through state CPS agencies and family courts.

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  6. Pyrthroes says:

    Sundance/CTH is our Gold Standard in these matters. Meantime, as Jefferson put it, we “fear for our country when we reflect that God is just.”

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  7. Glynis Catton says:

    Slowly but surely the wheels of justice are rolling, with an inevitability that will strike fear into those who know what is coming.

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  8. RAC says:

    Thank you SD. This article has been a great relief of stress and worry.

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  9. Lanceman says:

    I hope the appointed prosecutor is Rudy.

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    • lettruthspeak says:

      Although Rudy is more than qualified to investigate and prosecute all of this, to use him would give the left all the excuses they need to call out a conflict of interest. Guiliani supported Trump throughout his campaign, and I don’t think they would want anyone connected to the Trump campaign investigating these crooks. It could be him, but I doubt it.

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  10. Mike says:

    Come December 2018 we would all do well to remember Sundance’s and submit him for a 2019 Pulitzer Prize. This work is nothing short of astounding!

    http://entrysite.pulitzer.org/content/how-submit-your-entry

    Any reader here should be delighted to pay the $50 submission fee and drive the bus on flooding Columbia with submissions for CTH!!!

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  11. H&HC, 2nd-16th says:

    My immune system now allows mass quantities of crow either boiled, broiled, roasted, pan-fried or baked and even an occasional raw chunk. Beaks and feet make a fine stock. If AG Sessions is on track per Sundance, I will owe both Sundance and AG Sessions an apology for doubting them. Gibbs (NCIS) says apologizing is a sign of weakness. In lieu of falling on my sword of impatience I will just eat more crow. Can anyone recommend a good wine to go with my previously feathered main course?

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  12. marc says:

    The footnote on page 1 of the subpoena is telling. It is related to the Clinton email issues. Specifically related. Many people are in jeopardy.

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  13. freddy says:

    We never heard McCabe had begun an investigation in AG Sessions. Even Sessions says he did not know so secret Grand Juries or investigations are possible. The left is so viscous and nasty I’m surprised they can be investigated and not leaked. I’ll go with SD on this one… Someone somewhere must digest the gravity of these crimes and attempting to right the wrongs not just obstruct and obfuscate to protect the swamp. POTUS has taken a much more aggressive posture toward Mueller and he is being examined along with his crew of hyenas and guys like Gowdy are over ruled with the great integrity talk of this dirty cop looking for blood. GOOD I’ll feel better this early morning.

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  14. crash71234 says:

    Thanks for CTH!
    Somewhat skeptical. How could 13,000+ sealed indictments and all of the grand jury sessions be kept secret with all the leakers and “true patriots” involved in the process?

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    • The Boss says:

      A former AUSA made a brilliant and informative post here a few days ago. He could do a far better job than I. Hope he’s around and is inclined to help you out. In the meantime, I’ll take a crack at your question. Here are a few of thoughts.

      The fact that no details are being leaked tends to corroborate the existence of the “small group” of conspirators.

      A number of indictments might be directed at non-persons, such as corporations, NGOs and public interest groups, as well as their officers and directors.

      The grand jurors are seated outside of Washington DC, which reduces the chance that political sewer-dwellers are jurors.

      Already indicted small-fry have been advised that they will get maximum punishment for blabbing, and maximum leniency for keeping their yaps shut.

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      • G. Combs says:

        Perhaps it was this comment? (I added additional paragraphing to make an easier read)
        ……

        ristvan says:
        March 19, 2018 at 6:31 pm
        “Lurking Lawyer here. Follow up to a late subcomment on a previous thread, with more clarity. If the supposed presser is timed to IG report release, then based on Sessions comments, McCabe firing, and Nunes memo, here is what is going on.

        Sessions explicitly said had brought in an experienced non-DC DoJ prosecutor. That means somewhere in flyover country. Inference is to work alongside IG, who can only refer crimes for prosecution. We know there were crimes, because McCabes firing was for ‘lacking candor—including under oath’. That is codespeak for criminal federal perjury 18USC1621. McCabes Saturday statement shows Comey also committed perjury—same statute. Trumped tweeted this weekend, just left out the legal part (but he surely knows).

        We know from the Nunes memo on FISA court abuse plus Comey’s sworn testimony about the dossier being unverified plus McCabes sworn testimony that without it there would have been no FISA warrant or renewals that Loretta Lynch, Sally Yates, Comey, and probably McCabe made false attestations about the Steele dossier to FISA. Those are all felonies under 18USC1018 (and diGenova says there are a total of six felonies—one suffices for this comment).

        We know from Comey’s mid 2016 announcement about Hillary and her email server that Hillary is guilty under 18USC798, which does not require intent and is the same statute used to send the navy submariner to prison for year (who Trump just pardons, which means he and Sessions know a lot more about what I am saying than they are letting on… And just to round up, it is highly likely that Strzok, Page, both Ohrs, and others gave false statements to the IG early in his investigations, in violation of 18USC1001 — the same felony to which Mueller forced Flynn to plead guilty.

        Now, where does this lead? The flyover country prosecutor has impaneled a secret grand jury. He is presenting them with this evidence. There is no need for the grand jury to hear witnesses on any of this. They are returning sealed indictments on all of the above named. Remember, Trump rally chants of ‘lock her up’ were more of a campaign promise to be kept. The DNC and Hillary’s campaign paid Fusion GPS to pay Steele for the dossier, when OHR met Steele in London and reported back to FBI in writing that Steele was rabidly antiTrump (per Nunes memo). More than enough reason formTrump to direct his white hat team to proceed on HRC. Only thing I don’t know is whether they can also get Obama. The Susan Rice CYA email about the Jan 5 WH meeting (especially if there were priors) written as Trump was being inaugurated suggests maybe yes.

        So my quite educated guess is that the rumored presser will be Trump and Sessions unsealing all these prebaked indictments (the Big Ugly unveiled), with diGenova then to unpack it all to stunned Dems and MSM. And that will nicely set the midterms table for Crumbs Pelosi, Shutdown Shumer, the Dem stiffed DACA deal (a brilliant Trump gambit), and a lot more.”

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  15. XBONESNY says:

    THE TIMING OF THIS IS SPOT ON. BARRY JUST HAPPENS TO BE IN NEW ZEALAND WHERE THE ELITES HAVE BEEN GATHERING. THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE CHINA TARIFFS YESTERDAY WERE ALSO IN LINE WITH WHAT’S GOING ON……THE FAST SIGNING OF THE OMNIBUS BILL….THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN IN POSITIONS TO SHAPE OUR POLICIES(RYAN, MCCONNEL, PELOSI, SCHUMER, ETC)…HAVE ALL BEEN GETTING PAID EXTEME AMOUNTS FROM THEIR HANDLERS….SOROS, CHINA, KOCH’S, ETC…..THEY ALL KNOW THAT THE HAMMER IS COMING….BRING IT!!!

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  16. ForGodandCountry says:

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  17. PDQ says:

    the corruption runs deep and wide.
    each administration passed the corruptipn batonon to the next.
    decades…

    slow and steady, raise the net ver the target, drag ’em in.

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  18. TexasDude says:

    Won’t get past the House.

    We have been down this road before.

    President Andrew Johnson was impeached on bogus politcal charges (one article was for disrespecting Congress in 3 speeches).

    Senate held trial run by the US Supreme Court Chief Justice. During trial, the Senate, in a simple majority vote, over ruled a evidentiary ruling by the Chief Justice.

    President was acquitted.

    The Democrats are playing the role of Radical Republicans.

    The result was 100 years of segregation and racial oppression conducted all through the South by the Democrat party.

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    • TexasDude says:

      Sorry …

      Won’t get past the Senate.

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    • PremAmerica says:

      Notice, how you have quietly descended from, “Trump did nothing wrong,” to “Trump won’t be impeached by Congress,” to “Trump won’t be convicted and removed from office by the Senate?”

      Pretty quick that slippery slope isn’t it?

      This is the real danger TexasDude.

      The United States will be devastated if it comes to that.

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      • G. Combs says:

        Trump did nothing wrong. We already watched General Flynn get railroaded based on faked 302s by the CORRUPT FBI

        Do you think Deplorables will sit by while the CORRUPT LEFT railroads him???

        Loretta Lynch will get her blood in the streets if they try it and Deplorables are not pussy hat wearing beta males.

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  19. No one is above the Law, especially those who have sworn to uphold it.

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  20. litlbit2 says:

    “You and I might be frustrated with the pace of the activity..”

    Boom you got me Sundance, however slowly after issuing my apology for hammering AG Sessions, I daily try to better control my thoughts on not if but when the good guys finally win one.

    I’m sure it will make President Trump happy.

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  21. interkludge says:

    I think the various commenters here have it right. The Sessions team is cranking out sealed indictments, the targets are being brought in and shown the evidence against them. They are entering guilty pleas and cooperating with the government, and the government is agreeing to allow the indictments to remain sealed until they plead guilty before a judge.

    This makes sense for a number of reasons.

    First off, this is what Sessions wants. Zero publicity. The media can’t rally the progressive base when they have no idea what is going on. So instead they spin their wheels, burning off all their time and energy on non-existent Russian conspiracies and inventing bimbo eruptions to confirm their delusions about the President’s private life.

    Second, this is what the targets want. Imagine you are, for instance, a former administration staffer who is summoned to a U.S. attorney’s office and presented with an iron-clad indictment that can potentially put you in prison for the rest of your life. Or you can cooperate to take down your superiors and maybe you’ll get to be free again before you die of old age. The last thing you want is for word to get out that you are a target. First off, the moment you do, you will become a pariah to your friends and acquaintances. Second, there is always the danger of being “Arkancided” if you happen to know a lot. Third, by keeping your indictment and planned cooperation and guilty plea a secret, you can go home to your family and have a few more months of living your free, privileged life before the hammer blow lands.

    Look at Michael Flynn as an example. We only discovered he had been indicted when he surprised everyone by stepping in front of a judge and pleading guilty! That’s how these sealed indictments are going to go down. The press won’t be able to run interference and protect Sessions’ targets because the press has no idea what is happening. The first the press will hear about these indictments is when they are told that the target pled guilty to a judge in an empty courtroom.

    And here is Donald Trump’s payback to the media: The biggest political bombshell in the history of the country is about to go off and Trump and Sessions are making sure that, due to their own stupidity and bias, the media are TOTALLY MISSING THE STORY! From the standpoint of the media, the ultimate fear is irrelevance and President Trump is going to marinate them in their own irrelevance and incompetence.

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    • steph_gray says:

      ^Bigly Liking!!!!!^^

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    • Coldeadhands says:

      🔼🔼🔼 on 🎯

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    • Excellent post! I love your analysis.

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    • Perot Conservative says:

      Much of what you say makes perfect sense.

      Even given that, I’m not sure Trump is completely in on it. If he were, why does he keep hammering Sessions? Given that the White House leaks like 5 Titanics, I would tell them nothing.

      Questions:

      Would the 19 leak investigations be a subset of this, or separate?

      Is another advantage of pleading guilty saving tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees – when you know you’re guilty, they have the texts, emails, voicemails, etc. (Look at Flynn’s case.)

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      • Trump knows everything! He knew it all before he even rode down the elevator. As someone above posted, he was asked to run. Admiral Rogers is the man who is saving America with Trump. Trump’s hammering of Sessions is all part of the kabuki!

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  22. freddy says:

    Who OK’d McCabe to begin an investigation into Jeff Sessions…My curiosity is bugging me…..I’m betting good old Rosenstien….. He really needs to go like Mcmaster they are betrayers and still running ops ………

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    • covfefe999 says:

      I thought that was unsubstantiated rumor.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        Check out the sloppy “news” stories about the rumor. They’re all over the place. One says McCabe was authorized to investigate Sessions. Another says he was investigating. Yet another says he had investigated (past tense, indicating that it was completed). Sloppy sloppy from the Democratic propaganda fake news network. But they don’t care if they are accurate or truthful, their goal is to misinform and inflame their base, most of whom don’t make any attempt to substantiate what they have seen or read.

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    • Who said McMaster is a betrayer? He served his purpose and did what needed to be done. McMaster is an active-duty general specializing in counter-terrorism. His job is done. He was not fired he is being replaced with someone else who has new marching orders for the next part of the plan. Bolton is all about invasions and overthrowing people we don’t like.

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  23. patsfan says:

    Discussing what you do or do not believe is simply a waste of time for the segment that operates with an IQ above -10.

    If anyone in Congress does know about a SECRET grand jury, they would have to pretend they don’t know because it’s like ya know…..SECRET.

    Rep Goodlatte, based on previous comments knows.

    The more nefarious Uniparty types like Roosterhead would be more in the dark for obvious reasons.

    Outside of a need to wallow in your joy of hopelessness an despair what exact purpose do you think you serve?

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  24. covfefe999 says:

    I had missed the Shannon Bream tweet from March 8. I’m so happy to see it! She confirms that Sessions’ “person” is indeed a prosecutor! Please let the right things be done. I’m so tired of watching the crooks get away. Look at Hillary! She is so bold she even ran for President!

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  25. PremAmerica says:

    It is a sign of desperation that people here are willing to assume that some guy called Chad Pegram knows but nobody else in Washington DC does.

    This isn’t evidence of some secret Grand Jury.

    This is just evidence that Judas Rod Rosenstein is using Mueller Grand Jury as an excuse to HIDE the truth from Congress.

    Trump knows what’s going on. And he is telling you very loudly on his Twitter account. And through people he talks to like Hannity, Dobbs, Judicial Watch and others. Please listen.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      “Some guy”? Pergram works for Fox News. Did you miss that part? Keep in mind that there are some white hats who are refusing to speak to anyone but FOX. Also keep in mind that the Democratic propaganda media is refusing to publish certain news.

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      • PremAmerica says:

        But, where in Chad Pegram’s Tweet do you see any evidence that this a separate Grand Jury empanelled by agents of Jeff Sessions?

        Or, that I’m wrong in thinking this is Judas at work?

        And why is an obviously inconclusive Tweet by Chad Pegram more believable than direct and unmistakable assertions by known Trump insiders and loyalists?

        Believe me, Diamond & Silk, Katrina Pierson, and Mike Huckabee know infinitely more about President Trump’s thinking than Chad Pegram

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        • ladypenquin says:

          Logic dictates that when the DOJ says they’re reviewing documents to make sure they do not contain any “grand jury” information – they’re talking specifically about a grand jury convened to examine evidence on the subjects and issues presented to them – in this case since DOJ is referring to the specific request by the HSEJC, they’re talking about one and the same. Note that it is critical that the cases aren’t compromised which is why “ongoing investigations, and attorney-privilege are thrown in as well. That’s tells us there ARE ongoing investigations and furthermore, several of the people being investigated have retained lawyers to protect them as much as possible.

          BTW, Chad Pegram isn’t a sleazebag reporter. He’s been pretty straightforward in what he says.

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        • daughnworks247 says:

          Sundance gave you the link to the DOJ response IN ADDITION TO the Chad Pegram Tweet. Just click on the official response and read it for yourself.

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          • daughnworks247 says:

            Okay, my apologies, I clicked on the Sundance link, which I thought would lead to the official statement/letter from DOJ. Yet, the link circles back to the tweet from Peagram.
            HOWEVER
            Ian Prior, DOJ Spox, in a quote ” We are individually reviewing the remaining documents to ensure that they do not include GRAND JURY INFORMATION, INFORMATION About ongoing law enforcement actions, involving American citizens, or privileged atty.client communications.
            So, there’s your proof.
            Bazinga!!!!

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      • freddy says:

        So do you think the story about McCabe investigating Sessions is total BS…It sounds like it or at least very implausable it could have taken place with no one knowing….

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        • No, it is not total BS–it’s just that no one on here seems to understand it.

          What this Sessions investigation is all about, is him being investigated during his Senate confirmation hearings when ‘Session’s Russian Collusion’ charges (whatever that is) was being thrown around like candy at a Christmas parade.

          It was also charged that sessions failed to disclose a couple of close Russian contacts on some FBI forms that these candidates must fill out.

          The FBI investigated, and in Dec. of 2017, they cleared him by announcing that they found no improprieties perpetrated by Jeff Sessions.

          https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/case-closed-fbi-says-sessions-didnt-have-to-reveal-russia-talks

          this investigation, probably supervised by the boys at the top including McCabe (you know it was, since sessions is their boss)–This isn’t anything new–in fact, it’s old news.

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  26. Tonawanda says:

    Sundance flags a hugely significant part of the equation:

    “and a better than average chance the media will follow instructions from their leadership and send tens-of-thousands of low-info sycophants into the streets in protest, and well… you see the picture.”

    The communists are long time experts in this type of thing. We can expect widespread attempts at “mass protest” and violence.

    The signs will read (in the dreary communist language) “HANDS OFF [fill in the blank]” but also variations on “Trump = Hitler”.

    The violence and mayhem, which has been promised numerous times by communists such as Holder and Lynch, is an essential part of the plan to bring Trump down and to impede Trump in all ways. Police departments in leftist areas will be part of the “resistance,” greatly complicating matters, not to mention coordination with the relevant “resistance” segments of the Corrupt State.

    IMO Trump understands that swift and decisive action needs to be taken when this happens. The images of violence must be kept to a numerical and temporal minimum. The goal of the rioting and “protests” WILL first and foremost will be to provide images to Fake News, the bloodier and more disturbing the better.

    So in addition to the infinite legal details, is the enormous and sensitive task of facing the widespread street violence which will necessarily happen as a consequence. It is impossible to see how this all happens without the entire country becoming acutely alarmed, alarmed for different reasons depending on one’s pov. Trump’s message will be critical.

    It is not difficult to imagine death and destruction, to some degree, possibly a great degree.

    Given that Trump and Sessions entered office with powerful opposition within powerful government agencies, and given the necessity of finding trustworthy and competent allies, it would not be surprising that the creation from scratch of the means to keep civil order would take many, many months.

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  27. Paintingjan says:

    Good morning! It’s a beautiful Spring morning, and it’s Friday!
    I want to once again thank God for His loving care, VSGPDJT for continuing to do what is best for our American citizens, despite the crap that is slung at him daily (hourly?).
    And SD and his crew- this truly is a Refuge from the noise and rancor of the MSM.
    Great choice with Bolton! I wonder was our dear President Trump has up his sleeve today!

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  28. bluesky says:

    Sassye -in the past if a white hat heads to Washington they try to ‘change’ the swamp from within and often are overwhelmed. It’s starting to become apparent that Trump and Sessions set up shop outside the swamp. The White Hats within congress are still operating within the swamp so their viewpoint is inhibited. NO LEAKS is key. There has always been leaking in the swamp. The white hats operating in the swamp had to be kept as uniformed as the swamp creatures.

    Most of these swamp creatures are so confident of their position, they can not conceive that there is a threat. They only read the Washington Post, NY Times, watch CNN, etc… for someone to suggest reading CTH to get an alternative view would be met with scorn. The DC swamp is so insular that it rivals the Galapagos Islands

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    • steph_gray says:

      Yes they are in a bubble for sure. Ordinary-on-the-street moonbats in my blue state, if I suggested they read CTH, would not only laugh but vehemently abuse me for the suggestion if they knew that even one positive word about our President appeared here.

      The only ones who read CTH in the entire far left, IMHO, would be paid spies – and they probably have rules about who gets reports from them. There would be no curiosity reading. The moonbats of my acquaintance are like the priests of the Spanish Inquisition – they cannot allow any pro-Trump thoughts to touch their eyes or mind for fear of becoming heretics.

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  29. Bill Charleston says:

    I think we’d probably see the same thing if either of the two most likely possibilities is occurring::

    1, The Clinton/DNC criminality is being buried
    2. Grand Jury is working

    I don’t underestimate the power of the Clinton/DNC DEEP STATE corruption BUT there is also a possibility that the good guys are finally getting control and starting the process to implement justice.

    Either way, the Clinton crime machine is very, very nervous.

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  30. alligatriot says:

    Once again, Sundance and CTH prove to be ahead of the curve. Reading Thomas Lifson today in American Thinker made me feel like he was looking over Sundance’s shoulder and copying off his paper.

    FTA:
    “As so often in this labyrinth Sundance of Conservative Tree House is way ahead of the rest of the media in untangling the threads to reveal what is really going on. ”

    Congratulations, Sundance! You have deservedly become the “Gold Standard” for current affairs!
    (But we here KNEW that!)

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/03/bombshell_reveal_a_grand_jury_already_is_hearing_evidence_on_doj_and_fbi_scandals.html

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  31. Charles says:

    I see Chad Pergram’s response on twitter, but where is the official DOJ response?

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    • daughnworks247 says:

      Ian Prior, DOJ Spox, in a quote ” We are individually reviewing the remaining documents to ensure that they do not include GRAND JURY INFORMATION, INFORMATION About ongoing law enforcement actions, involving American citizens, or privileged atty.client communications.
      All good.
      Bazinga!!!!

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      • Charles says:

        Ok, I just wanted a quote not from Twitter and found the full comment at Fox News. This is explosive. The REAL storm is coming! I am patient now…

        “The Justice Department said that more than two dozen FBI staff have been assisting the DOJ in producing “on a rolling basis” responsive documents to the Committee’s “broad request every 10 to 14 days.”

        “The original universe of documents requested was substantial, but there are approximately 30,000 documents thought to be responsive to the Committee’s inquiry; of that, we have thus far delivered 3,000 documents to the Committee,” Prior said in the statement.

        “We are individually reviewing the remaining documents to ensure that they do not include grand jury information, information about ongoing law enforcement actions involving American citizens, or privileged attorney-client communications,” Prior said. “In cases where redactions have been necessary, the Department has, when appropriate, provided Committee staff an opportunity for in camera review of unredacted materials.””

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        • Coldeadhands says:

          Imagine the horror of releasing prosecution related, including attorney / client, info and the impact that would have on convictions.
          We don’t want any part of derailing potential convictions in assuaging people’s angst driven need to know now.

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  32. H&HC, 2nd-16th says:

    I can’t wait.

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  33. Peter says:

    Sessions needs to unrecuse himself now that the House has stated there was/is no Russian collusion, and fire Mueller.

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    • G. Combs says:

      “Sessions needs to unrecuse. “

      He can not. It is a matter of ethics and Rule of Law. HOWEVER the recusal is narrow dealing ONLY with the campaign.

      GOVERNMENT ETHICS:
      https://www.justice.gov/jmd/government-ethics-outline

      “[…]C. DOJ-Specific Conflict of Interest Regulation: No DOJ employee may participate in a criminal investigation or prosecution if he has a personal or political relationship with any person or organization substantially involved in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or prosecution, or who would be directly affected by the outcome. 28 CFR 45.2

      Political relationship means a close identification with an elected official, candidate, political party or campaign organization arising from service as a principal advisor or official; personal relationship means a close and substantial connection of the type normally viewed as likely to induce partiality.[…]”

      Sessions recused himself from the CAMPAIGN issues and nothing else.
      Read US attorney general Jeff Sessions’ statement recusing himself from investigations into the 2016 presidential campaigns

      “During the course of the confirmation proceedings on my nomination to be Attorney General, I advised the Senate Judiciary Committee that ‘[i]f a specific matter arose where I believed my impartiality might reasonably be questioned, I would consult with Department ethics officials regarding the most appropriate way to proceed…
      Having concluded those meetings today, I have decided to recuse myself from any existing or future investigations of any matters related in any way to the campaigns for President of the United States…

      Consistent with the succession order for the Department of Justice, Acting Deputy Attorney General and U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia Dana Boente shall act as and perform the functions of the Attorney General with respect to any matters from which I have recused myself to the extent they exist.

      Anything else happening before the campaign is fair game for AG Sessions.
      DOJ Sources: Sessions Has Not Recused Himself from Potential Uranium One Probe

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      • William F Buckley's Ghost says:

        Comey and Mueller are good friends yet Mueller has not reclused himself. A different set of rules I suppose?

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        • G. Combs says:

          ” A different set of rules I suppose….”

          Yes, The rules ONLY apply to Conservatives.
          SEE: Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals

          […]”RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)[…] “

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  34. I am so happy to read this. I am one of the doubters but this has made my day. No, I’m not eating crow because all of my life I have questioned authority, that’s just who I am (middle child syndrome lol) Thanks to Sundance, and thank you for never attacking those of us who are middle children!

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    • Kaco says:

      Same here, littleflower, I hope we will see perp walks soon. I have also been extremely frustrated with all of it and how the Russia hoax has been a cloud over this administration, when all along it was the Obama administration.

      My only concern if there were to be a second special counsel is, who would that be? If it is a swamp dweller, than we wouldn’t be better off there either. I hope Sessions turns out to be who we thought he was when he was appointed and we have true justice for once.

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  35. Carrie2 says:

    sassic, sorry you are so anti-Trump and America but hope you will catch up when this all comes forth and explodes. What will you do then? So sad you are against us and America’s great future. But, again, anyone can leave this great country at any time if permitted to do so. Congress is NOT the DOJ and thus does not have to have all the information and that is a good thing considering that the 2 parties in 1 have way too many of our supposed representative part of the problem and none of the solution. We are proud of Trump and Sessions, and, yes, good law takes it time and then springs up with data that gets the criminal(s) taken “care of”.

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  36. Apfelcobbler says:

    It’s quite a thing that the same Sessions who bumbled into recusing himself could also work stealthily (and nonstop) to pull this off! I wonder at what point he and Trump realized just how vast the rot is? Funny, in retrospect, how he and Trump played a little game of Twitter frustration for cover – for the sake of appearances.

    One thing I find interesting about Sessions is how his wife attends almost every appearance before Congress and even most press conferences.

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  37. Ruckus Tom says:

    Eight months. April to the November mid terms. President Trump supporters better be praying day and night that republicans don’t lose the House and / or the Senate in the mid terms. Otherwise, all these investigations, grand juries, FISA applications, etc. etc. will be dust in the wind. By the way, if indictments commence in the next eight months – indictments of liberal democrats (i.e. the gods) – how will that impact the mid terms?

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  38. well…until we see ONE charge, ONE indictment, hell I’ll settle for a jaywalking ticket at this point… I’ll believe it when I see it. As of right now, today….we are losing and running out of time before the midterms. all due respect to CTH and the rest of you but I haven’t seen ANYTHING concrete, just conjecture and guessing..unlike mueller and crew

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  39. none other says:

    I have been saying this for as long as people have been calling Sessions swamp. And every time a politician says SESSIONS wont turn over the same documents Comey was with holding.Is because Comey stayed with Trump UNTIL Sessions was in place to PROTECT the evidence Comey has on the swamp.. Go ahead and think that one over .BUT CLEAR your mind of this “Group Think conclusion” White hat or black hat b/s…

    Nothing is as it appears . Mueller is NOT what he has been sold to be, Comey , Rosenstein,Sessions ALL not what everyone has bought as Swamp, black hat , white hat .. These phrases are child’s phrases to engulf the masses. ( No insult intended )

    Mueller has 3 Grand juries impaneled .. And you can bet your last A$$ , every lawyer he has hired who was a 100% Clinton supporter was put on his team to Lock them Out from defending the Swamp..

    Anyone follow that ? Mueller HIRED Clinton/Swamp lawyers to REMOVE THEM FROM THE CHESS BOARD .. Just as he did with DOJ/FBI officials.. THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS A SWAMP TRAP.

    I dont think people understand what is going on because it is a ONE OFF. Never in modern history was a world power conquered from with in. Hillary losing was the SHOT herd around the world for the ELITISTS… That one event cause a world war not because she lost , BUT BECAUSE ONE OF THERE OWN WAS THE ATTACKER … Donald J Trump …. EX SWAMP . The one man who had enough of there shit. Who decided to go all in to snatch the prize. Just as the hand of evil began to close around it.

    Everything you think you know REVERSE IT and frame it as EXACTLY what you desired from Trump. Because he is after the same crooks and evil doers you and I want eradicated. And has been ALL ALONG

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    • JK says:

      Velly velly intellesting, sir.

      I have been thinking along the same lines. Not sold on Comey though, but let’s see how this plays out.

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      • G. Combs says:

        Very much goes along with:
        name redacted https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/937831014965153792
        “Adm Mike Rogers saved the country. On nov 18 he met the NATSEC team of PDJT transition team and briefed them on it all…. At that meeting were current DCI Pompeo , former DCI Woolsey, now ambassador, Mike Flynn, Jeff Sessions, and PDJT. “

        This was the meeting in the newly built SCIF in Trump Tower where President Trump found out he was being spied on by Obummer and moved his transition team the next day.

        Every single one of those men had military training of some sort from AG Sessions in the reserves and President Trump in military school to high powered spook General Flynn.

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  40. daughnworks247 says:

    Both Fox News, The Hill, Free Beacon, and CNN are quoting Ian Prior, Spokesperson for DOJ in response to Goodlatte’s demand.
    Many sources are selective in editing Ian Prior’s statement.
    Here, in he second to last paragraph, we get the crumb we are looking for —- confirming Sundance and Chad Pegram.

    http://590kid.com/goodlatte-subpoenas-doj-for-documents-related-to-clinton-email-probe-fisa-abuses/

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  41. MrsP says:

    I will buy that the arrogance/ideological blindness of the media will keep them from considering or exploring the possibility of wrongdoing being found in the Hillary campaign or the Obama administration, but wouldn’t the guilty players realize some of their black hats are missing from the bracket pool or suddenly not as chatty at the cocktail parties and start looking for a safe place? 44 has been spotted on the yacht of a guy needing cover from #metoo for men, but it seems like the others would be sending out more smoke signals to cover their tracks perhaps…
    Are they all banking on the IC and Stormy? Rice’s sad little “by the book” memo not withstanding.

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  42. Betty says:

    Are there still those who doubt?

    The response from the DOJ reads: “We are individually reviewing the remaining documents to ensure that they do not include grand jury information, information about ongoing law enforcement actions involving American citizens, or privileged attorney-client communications.”

    A bunch of lawyers wrote that and it DOES NOT say “might conflict with – ongoing – Grand Jury information” it says “do not include grand jury information”. I suppose it might be that they wouldn’t say “do not include grand jury information,” unless they have a grand jury empaneled – but I don’t know.

    At this late date, what would be the great tragedy of telling us all that a grand jury has been empaneled? Can there possibly be anymore “big fish” to catch?

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    • Perot Conservative says:

      Maybe Comey will provide one more layer of lies in his upcoming book?

      When 10 or 20 out-of-town lawyers and staff pop into Lexington or Floyd, Virginia, what is their cover story?

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  43. Perot Conservative says:

    Correct me if I am wrong.

    First, Congress spends an inordinate amount of time RAISING MONEY!! That’s all. 60 Minutes showed how they walk 2 blocks, go into a building, then an office, with tiny cubicles, and there is a lineup of calls with what they are supposed to say to each person. “We will build the wall”, $10,000 donation. Tax cuts, $20,000 donation.” That’s why staffers and lobbyists write bills.

    Sharp Congress members are keeping their mouths shut.

    Some are playing along. Some Democrats like Schiff actually eat their own dog food (delusions).

    There is so much going on. Last night the Uranium Whistleblower was on Fox News, and will be on several additional nights. FYI. I think he was on Hannity.

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  44. Sandra-VA says:

    Eeeeek! Gotta change the post count…

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  45. Mickturn says:

    McCabe likely steped on lots of necks to get where he was! I’m sure, based on the total lack of support he got from other FBI leadership/rank/file it is pretty obvious his comeuppance was at hand, big time. On top of that McCabe tried to make it sound like his firing was a total insult to the FBI…seems to me McCabe was hiding behind the FBI to cover his sorry rear. Hey McCabe, you can’t hide behind the “I” in FBI, you’re NOT that thin!

    I’m happy that at least a glimmer of a REAL investigation is in the wind…as I’ve said before, I’m buying stock in the ‘Hanging Rope’ Company!

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  46. The Great Kazoo says:

    All that makes perfect sense, but I’ll believe it when I see swamprats being frog marched onto the prison bus.

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  47. Andy says:

    The DOJ is required to obey the subpoena. Period. Just like the DOJ/FBI was ultimately required to obey Nunes’ subpoena. Nunes subpoenaed documents and people who at some time might have been under criminal investigation. He got them all. A subpoena is a subpoena and DOJ better comply, fully, or they’ll be held in contempt.

    The DOJ in its response proposed reviewing the documents “to ensure that they do not include grand jury information, information about ongoing law enforcement actions involving American citizens, or privileged attorney-client communications.” Goodlate was not trying to get these kinds of documents. 99.9% of the documents he wants do not fall into these categories. E.g. none of the documents in the email investigation concern “grand jury information” (because there was no grand jury). None of them concerns “ongoing law enforcement actions” (the email investigation is over) or “privileged attorney-client communications” (FBI most likely doesn’t have these). The same can probably said of the FISA abuse matter.
    The DOJ response to Goodlatte was a smokescreen to justify more footdragging by the DOJ and FBI which throughout the course of the investigations by the various committees has repeatedly stonewalled legitimate committee requests for testimony and documents to the point where they had to be threatened with contempt.

    I don’t read the DOJ response as in any way indicating that a grand jury is convened or that a criminal investigation is taking place. There is no affirmative statement to that effect in the DOJ response. Instead, it was a boilerplate response to a request for documents without any hidden meaning imo.

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  48. Robert says:

    The DOJ response would indicate a grand jury is impaneled assuming one crucial thing. Their response is truthful and is not merely a dodge to avoid producing the documents requested. Remember we are talking about attorneys and as one, I know how they parse words and provide misleading information or half truths. This is the same DOJ that used a phony dossier to get a FISA warrant. Did it all of a sudden become ethical and trustworthy? Is it beyond them to lie to Congress to avoid producing records?

    Considering their track record for honesty and transparency ,why should their response referring to a grand jury be taken at face value? It could easily be a dishonest reply to give the false impression a grand jury is impaneled as an excuse to stonewall the production of documents. How many times have we heard a government official not provide an answer with the excuse the matter is under investigation? Call me a skeptic , but I do not take anything the DOJ states to be the gospel truth.

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    • Andy says:

      Would you trust them to investigate themselves? Not me. Not a chance. The organization was/is corrupt. We need someone from the outside to come in and overhaul the top of that agency and root out the political attitudes that had come to dictate policy. No one on the inside is capable, and I honestly don’t trust Sessions or Rosenstein at all. Time for a clean sweep at the top.

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  49. Andy says:

    Also, I disagree that Sessions’ statement in any way indicated a prosecutor has been appointed to investigate and prosecute the FISA case. Sessions said: “I have appointed a person outside of Washington, many years in the Department of Justice to look at all the allegations that the House Judiciary Committee members sent to us; and we’re conducting that investigation.” A later comment by Shannon Bream said: “AG’s office confirms this is NOT the IG, but a separate “senior federal prosecutor” outside DC.”

    Put these statements together and we end up with this: Sessions has appointed a person (senior federal prosecutor) from outside Washington to look at the allegations that the House Judiciary Committee members sent to us; and we’re conducting that investigation.” Several things here. First, the exact task of the outside person is not clear from what Sessions said. Sessions said that the person would be “looking at” the allegations. What does “looking at” mean? It doesn’t necessarily mean a prosecution. It could mean a review to see how to proceed with the allegations, or a review perhaps to assess whether a special counsel is needed in the FISA case. Second, the fact Sessions was consulting a person he noted to be a prosecutor doesn’t necessarily mean that person has been selected by Sessions to be a prosecutor in any matter. The conclusion just doesn’t follow.

    If a prosecutor has been appointed, it seems we would be aware of it. Not from the existence of a grand jury, but from the people who would be brought before it. It’s inconceivable that Hillary, the DNC, Glen Simpson, Nellie Ohr, Bruce Ohr, the FBI people, or the higher ups could be brought before a grand jury and the public and press not be aware of it. Just not possible. So if this phantom prosecutor isn’t hauling people before a grand jury – the main tool of any prosecutor, what is he doing?

    As for the vaunted secrecy of FBI investigations, once the main figures begin appearing before a grand jury, all secrecy will disappear. The investigation will become public through leaks and other means; and at that point, whether the FBI acknowledges it or not, the fact that there’s an investigation will become known. Obviously, we haven’t reached that point yet, which says the criminal investigation, if there is one, is not very far advanced.

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    • none other says:

      Grand Jury’s are done in “Secrete” .. And, unlike the vast majority of trials, grand jury proceedings are kept in strict confidence. This serves two purposes:
      It encourages witnesses to speak freely and without fear of retaliation.
      It protects the potential defendant’s reputation in case the jury does not decide to indict.

      This constant demand Sessions do something or say something is a bunch of boo hooey .

      He is doing what he needs to do but most importantly he is doing it EXACTLY as it should be done…. Quietly ………

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