GOP Members Discuss The FISA Memo…

GOP Membership have put together this video to highlight the key points surrounding how the DOJ and FBI put together a FISA Court application to conduct surveillance on political opposition:

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Additionally, constitutional lawyer Alan Dershowitz discusses the ongoing issues:

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272 Responses to GOP Members Discuss The FISA Memo…

  1. TwoLaine says:

    Excellent video. And that is only the tip of the iceberg.

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    • TwoLaine says:

      Ahhh, Kevin McCarthy. It has President TRUMP’s fingerprints all over it.

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    • Rynn69 says:

      I generally agree with Dershowitz…but he is 100% wrong on criminality. He is a good man, but he is letting his friendship with the Clintons taint his objectivity. The bleach bit and hammering devices alone is clear cut obstruction of justice. There is clear cut perjury. There is clear cut pay-to-play. There is clear cut leaking that is a felony. There is clear cut illegal surveillance. He is wrong. He wants to whitewash culpability for the Democrats by trying to lump Republicans into the Democrats wrongdoing. Sorry, Professor Dershowitz. You are wrong here.

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      • TwoLaine says:

        Notice how DIMs always want to “move on” when sunlight is shining on their MANY misdeeds and criminalities. Personally I’ve never tho’t much of Dershowitz.

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      • End PC says:

        So then what, as he asks, are the statutes?

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      • LEET says:

        How is Dershowitz a “good man” when he makes excuses for evil? How does a “good man” retain a friendship with people who are the antithesis of good?

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      • Felonious says:

        I think AD was commenting specifically on whether or not lying on the FISA application violates a specific federal statue. He said he wasn’t aware of one, I havent looked into it myself either.

        To your point though, he voted for Hillary and is not above political bias. There’s also a ton of evidence of related crimes and that there is a wide ranging conspiracy that highly likely involves the Clintons and Barry O.

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  2. tav144 says:

    Is there a timeline somewhere? I managed to find a partial one in a post here and used it and added to it the new State Dept info but if someone knows where it is let me know. Here’s what I’ve come up with and added based on new info:

    • April ’16 Clinton hires Fusion GPS
    • April ’16 Fusion GPS hires Christopher Steele (& NellieOhr??)
    • Simpson said Nellie Ohr hired “through summer & fall”
    • May ‘16 Nellie Ohr gets HAM radio license (dossier work begins w/ Steele)
    • June/July ’16 FBI Agent Strzok meets w/ Steele
    • “Summer ’16” Steele contacts Winer @State Dept
    •. June ’16 Trump,Jr-Veselnetskya “set up” meeting
    • June ’16 DOJ FISA request denied.
    • July ’16 FBI counterintelligence operation begins
    • July ’16 Nuland said dossier info brought to her attn & was shared w/FBI
    • August ’16 “2nd dossier” Shearer gave to Blumenthal who gave to Winer
    • Sept ’16 Winer meets w/ Steele & read 2nd dossier & shared with Nuland who said she shared with/ Kerry who said he didn’t act on it at all.
    • Oct. ’16 Peter Strzok and Bruce Ohr meet w/ Christopher Steele
    • Oct. ’16 FISA request granted.

    There are clearly some questions and points of interest here…
    Like obviously this entire dossier construct STARTED with DOJ cut-out Nellie Ohr, & Clinton cut-out FusionGPS/ Simpson & Steele in April/May 2016.
    NOTED:
    Dossier info shared VERBALLY with Nuland in July 2016 and she shared verbally with FBI. FBI then opens counterintelligence case, and Strzok meets Steele in July 2016. “Second/Shearer dossier” info in WRITING comes a month later in August 2016 via Clinton contact to State Dept (I believe this to actually be the first written draft of what will end up being the final Steele dossier).

    What are some of the other timing dates to add (Papadopoulos /Page, etc)?

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  3. starfcker says:

    Any respect you could ever have for Alan Dershowitz kind of evaporates right there, huh?

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  4. TheWanderingStar says:

    Wonder if Dersh can cite for us the statutes that the President violated. Especially, I would like to hear those violations that justify the appointment of a special counsel.

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  5. scott467 says:

    Trey Gowdy (3:34): “After all, we only have a FISA because *you* consented to it?”

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    Uhh… whatchoo talkin’ about, Willis?

    What are you smoking, Trey?

    *I* most certainly did not, and would not, EVER, *consent* to your Star Chamber called a ‘FISA Court’.

    Are you insane?

    And that brings up a whole host of OTHER government ‘plans’, ‘actions’, ‘programs’, ‘restrictions’, ‘codes’, ‘statutes’ and general nefarious activity I never *consented* to either.

    And this is a good time to have a talk about ALL of that Trey, since you brought it up.

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    • ok4ayl says:

      That is most certainly legal double speak, he can take his FISA and shove it…..

      Liked by 1 person

      • scott467 says:

        ‘Consent’ is a very specific word, with a very specific meaning, used by lawyers and judges to establish ‘jurisdiction’ over the targets of their abuse and tyranny.

        ………………………
        Black’s Law Dictionary, 4th Edition:

        CONSENT. A concurrence of wills. Voluntarily yielding the will to the proposition of another; acquiescence or compliance therewith.
        Twin Ports Oil Co. v. Pure Oil Co., D.C.Minn., 26 F.Supp. 366, 371.

        Agreement; the act or result of coming into harmony or accord. Glant;z; v. Gabel, 66
        Mont. 134, 212 P. 858, 860.

        Consent is an act of reason, accompanied with deliberation, the mind weighing as In a balance the good or evil on each side. 1 Story, Eq.Jur. § 222; Lervick v. White Top
        Cabs, La.App., 10 So.2d 67, 73.

        It means voluntary agreement by a person in the possession and exercise of sufficient mentality to make an intelligent choice to do something proposed by another. People v. Kangiesser, 44 Cal. App. 345, 186 P. 388, 389.

        It supposes a physical power to act, a moral power of acting, and a serious, determined,
        and free use of these powers. Fonblanque, Eq. b. 1, c. 2, s. 1; New Jersey Mfrs’ Casualty Ins. Co., 148 A. 790, 791, 106 N.J.L. 238.

        Consent is implied in every agreement. It is an act unclouded by fraud, duress, or sometimes even mistake. Heine v. Wright, 76 Cal.App. 338, 244 P. 955, 956.
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        RELATED:

        Silence is tantamount to consent. If you don’t assert your rights, you don’t really have them.

        It is a universal age-old Maxim of Law that silence means consent.

        Qui tacet consennire videtur, ubi tractatur de ejus commodo: “He who is silent is deemed to consent.”

        The maxim is Qui tacet consentiret: the maxim of the law is “Silence gives consent”. — Sir Thomas More

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        Maxim [mak-sim]
        noun

        1. An established principle or proposition

        2. A principle of law universally admitted, as being a correct statement of the law

        These are the kinds of games Lawyers play, and I am absolutely confident that Trey Gowdy did not choose that word ‘consent’ by accident or mistake.

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  6. scott467 says:

    Trey Gowdy (3:34): “After all, we only have a FISA because *you* consented to it?”

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    Where and when, precisely, did I *consent* to your FISA court?

    I want to know, Trey.

    Is it a result of having a birth certificate? Is it related to having a Social Security Number, is that how you deceived the population into ‘consent’? Is it related to signing for a (completely unnecessary) ‘driver’s license’?

    How — exactly and specifically — do you claim that I or anybody else in America *consented* to a FISA court?

    It certainly wasn’t on any ballot, so how is it that you claim to have obtained my *consent*, Mr. Lawyer?

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    • scott467 says:

      Everything is contract, Trey.

      As a lawyer, you know that better than most.

      So where did the *consent* come from?

      What deception did the government use to obtain my ‘consent’?

      I hereby give public notice that not only do I NOT give ‘consent’ to any FISA court, but I challenge you to show that I ever gave *consent* in the first place.

      Any lawful contract requires full disclosure, and you know that too, Trey. There was no disclosure AT ALL about my ‘consent’ to any FISA court, because if there had been, I would know about it.

      So whatever that contract is, it is NULL and VOID.

      Ab initio. At no time did your claimed ‘consent’ have any legal validity.

      As if it never existed.

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      • jeans2nd says:

        No one is listening to us, Scott.
        Sadly, Scott, none of us ever really had a say.

        F Roosevelt established ‘National Security’ during WWII, codified by Congress in 1978 with the creation of FISA and FISC.

        The perversion of our 4th and 5th (and other) amendment rights were put into law in 1978.
        The “blame,” as it were, was retroactively put on Richard Nixon, in another perversion of history.

        The original nutjobs and conspiracy theorists have been trying to be heard since 1978.
        No one listened.

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        • scott467 says:

          I stumbled across some information on Justice Robert’s “Obamacare decision” which appears to show that contrary to what many (including myself) believed — i.e., that Roberts was bribed or blackmailed and betrayed us all — instead what he did was give us the key to escape from the “prison without bars” constructed all around us by the ‘legal system’.

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          CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS On OBAMACARE & The IRS — Traitor or Patriot? YOU Decide.

          http://americannationalmilitia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/CHIEF-JUSTICE-ROBERTS-ON-OBAMACARE-THE-IRS-1.pdf
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          The following is just an excerpt from a short document on Roberts’ Obamacare decision (see the pdf link above for the complete article), but it highlights and reveals that the CENTERPIECE of the Roberts decision was actually to draw attention to the fact that our government has been engaging in a pervasive type of FRAUD against the American People for over a century now:

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          “You see, Roberts jammed the machine. And scared the crap out of the entire Federal government by doing it. That’s why no other Justice would join him— he terrified them too.

          And he did it because it was the only way he could find to halt the unstoppable expansion of a process that was originally promised by Congress to be limited only to the income tax – but technically could be applied to anything at all Congress wanted.

          What was that process?

          • The Federal government’s ability to presume that natural human person Americans had volunteered to be treated as corporations under the law;

          • The Federal government’s ability to do this without telling the people that such a presumption had been made against them;

          • The Federal government’s ability to use this presumption to deny Americans their inalienable constitutional rights by replacing them with government-controlled corporate privileges;

          • And finally, The Federal government’s ability to not tell Americans how to get out of that presumption without being harmed by trying to do so.”
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          And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

          People (in the “Patriot” movement, “Sovereignty” movement, etc.) have been making these same points for years, on MANY issues, but were dismissed by the lower courts as being “frivolous”.

          But now the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court has made the SAME argument — and NO court in the land can say the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is frivolous!

          It would appear that what Roberts did was to actually expose the mechanism of the whole deception — by the United States federal government — which they have used to usurp the Constitutional rights of the American People AND all of the many powers reserved to the STATES by the Constitution.

          Please check the article at the link above.

          I think you’ll be surprised, and maybe arrive at a whole different opinion of Roberts.

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    • georgiafl says:

      Reposting this to illustrate article above:

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      • ok4ayl says:

        All the more reason for Obama to be running scared, he ( Obama ) knows that Trump knows about all of his misdeeds……..ALL of them! 44 knows the jig is up and it all leads back to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave…..The “One” who didn’t build that, and oversaw losses within the Democratic Party of historic proportions is now going to be the “One” who literally killed the Democrat Party…….Pass the popcorn its Grand Jury time!

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        • georgiafl says:

          Those on the dark side are full of hate and spite and never go quietly.

          They will likely have all their imported terrorists cause great destruction before he or Clinton are tried and convicted.

          Remember the Clinton mafia getting to witnesses ahead of time?

          O’s people are bombers, burners, etc. Our FBI, CIA, military and local police have been infiltrated by both marxists and islamists.

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          • TakeBackOurRepublic says:

            Not so coincidentally Brennan has been hired to be a paid contributor for NBC and MSNBC. They’ve hired a CIA operative trained in counterintelligence who is a known puppet for the Muslim Brotherhood to become their analyst no doubt preparing ahead for the spin zone.

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          • scott467 says:

            “They will likely have all their imported terrorists cause great destruction before he or Clinton are tried and convicted. ”

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            That will help greatly to facilitate the eradication of islam — the ideology of hate and genocide — from sea to shining sea.

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          • scott467 says:

            “Remember the Clinton mafia getting to witnesses ahead of time?”

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            They are still doing it.

            The plane that went down in Russia yesterday (killing 71) apparently had multiple Uranium-1 participants on it.

            Coincidences are funny things.

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          • scott467 says:

            “O’s people are bombers, burners, etc.”

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            He cannot direct a terrorist cell (or anti-fa, or BLM) on America soil without giving orders. Those orders have been and will continue to be picked up by NSA and every other surveillance technology (publicly known and classified) at our government’s disposal.

            Declassify the surveillance of Hussein giving orders to kill Americans, make it public, and then take him out as a terrorist and enemy combatant. With extreme prejudice.

            It’s not rocket science.

            It’s not like it would be difficult to drop him like a water buffalo on the Serengeti Plains, even if he didn’t have a Secret Service detail. But since he does, a simple call to Hussein’s Secret Service detail to arrest him will do just fine.

            And if he resists, put one between his eyes, and give him an all expense paid trip to Davy Jones’ Locker. Buh-bye.

            I don’t know why the powers that be are playing around with this traitor, with this active terrorist enemy combatant.

            They certainly don’t have to.

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      • scott467 says:

        From the article you linked:

        “David Brock is considered to be one of the masters of agit-prop (agitation & propaganda) in the 21st century. A personality devoid of scruples, he is able to defend a cause as well as destroy it, according to the needs of his employer. He is at the head of an empire of mass manipulation.”

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        What was described above is a terrorist. Charge him with a hundred crimes, and prosecute each one sequentially. That will bankrupt him, then those who fund him after he is bankrupt will eventually get tired of doing so, and he will spend the rest of his life in court.

        Until or unless we outlaw lawfare, which we should do.

        Then restore the Republic to the Common Law on which it was founded for individual (living) Americans, and apply (Roman) civil law (statutes, codes, legislation, etc.) exclusively to corporations (non-living corporate entities).

        Outlaw the BAR (British Accredited Registry), and require anyone who would be a lawyer in OUR country to swear allegiance to the Constitution.

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      • scott467 says:

        From the article linked above:

        “- Media Matters is tasked with picking up on Donald Trump’s mistakes. You read his bulletin every day in your newspapers – the President can’t be trusted, he got this or that point wrong.”

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        Do it right back to them.

        They are engaged in an unlawful war against our government. They have a hundred million dollar budget (according to the article). Comparatively speaking, the government has unlimited resources. Use them. Defend our nation against these traitors.

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        “- American Bridge 21st Century has collected more than 2,000 hours of videos showing Donald Trump over the years, and more than 18,000 hours of other videos of the members of his cabinet. It has at its disposition sophisticated technological equipment designed for the Department of Defense – allegedly not in working order – which enables it to look for contradictions between their older declarations and their current positions. It should be extending its work to 1,200 of the new President’s collaborators.”

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        Confiscate any equipment designed for the DoD from these traitors. That equipment, and it’s design, was paid for by the American People, it belongs to us, not to those who would use it to destroy us.

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        “- Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington — CREW is a firm of high level lawyers tasked with tracking anything that could create a scandal in the Trump administration. Most of the lawyers in this association work pro bono, for the cause. These are the people who prepared the case for Bob Ferguson, the Chief Prosecutor of the state of Washington, against the immigration decree (Executive Order 13769).”

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        Do it right back to them. Set up a 5-man task force to investigate every single lawyer who ever worked for that terror cell, and expose their every evil deed.

        Not only will we ruin most of them, but nobody else will want to get involved with that terror cell again.

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        We are NOT defenseless, we are simply not even fighting. We are suffering death by a thousand cuts, because we (apparently) can’t be bothered to swat away the disease-carrying mosquitoes.

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  7. Shadrach says:

    That’s a good video. I especially like Trey Gowdy’s point that it’s not Christopher Steele’s credentials as a good source that are relevant here.

    Did anyone see Scott Adams Periscope wondering why nobody was talking about executing Christopher Steele because of his espionage against the U.S. and his attempts to overthrow the US government? He’s got a good point. What if Christopher Steele, retired M16 had been (for example) Yuri Steelikov, retired FSB agent. Would we be talking about it then?

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  8. AH_C says:

    Hey Alan, thanks for paving the way for Nunes to show the applications and underlying documents.

    Br’er Nunes to Br’er Schiff : please don’t throw me into that briar patch.

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