President Trump Meeting and Discussion on Prison Reform…

Earlier today President Trump held a roundtable meeting on prison reform. Participants included AG Jeff Sessions, Kentucky Governor Matt Bevin, Kansas Governor Brownback and several prison reform experts. Video and Transcript below:

[Transcript] 1:55 P.M. EST – THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. And today we are going to be discussing the important topic of prison reform. I want to thank Attorney General Sessions, Governor Bevin of Kentucky, Governor Brownback of Kansas, and other prison reform experts who are here. We have the best in the country.

We’ll be discussing a number of opportunities to improve our prison system to better promote public safety and to help former prisoners reenter society as productive citizens. Very important. Very big topic. It’s become a very big topic, especially, I think, over the last 12 months or so. We’ve been focused on it very strongly.

We support our law enforcement partners, and we’re working to reduce crime and put dangerous offenders behind bars. At the same time, we want to ensure that those who enter the justice system are able to contribute to their communities after they leave prison, which is one of many very difficult subjects we’re discussing, having to do with our great country.

The vast majority of incarcerated individuals will be released at some point, and often struggle to become self-sufficient once they exit the correctional system.

We have a great interest in helping them turn their lives around, get a second chance, and make our community safe. Many prisoners end up returning to crime, and they end up returning to prison. Two-thirds of the 650,000 people released from prison each year are arrested again within three years.

We can help break this vicious cycle through job training — very important, job training — mentoring, and drug addiction treatment. And you know how we’re focused on drugs pouring into our country and drug addiction. It’s a big problem even as we speak of this subject. We’ll be very tough on crime, but we will provide a ladder of opportunity to the future.

The governors with us today have pioneered reforms — they’ve been very, very successful and we appreciate your being here very much — that can inspire change. Kansas improved its juvenile justice system to help make sure young offenders do not become repeat offenders. Kentucky is providing job training to inmates and helping them to obtain professional licenses upon release, and it’s been very successful. And he’s been a great governor, I will tell you that — my friend.

My administration is committed to helping former inmates become productive, law-abiding members of society. And I want to thank you all for being with us and thank you for the discussion. And maybe we’ll take a couple of minutes and, Governor, you might want to say something as to prison reform. You’ve been very successful.

GOVERNOR BEVIN: Sure, I appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. President. And thank you truly to those of you in the media for being here and for covering this. It does matter. You’ll hear a lot from people who know far more about this than myself if you stay in here as we go around the horn.

But I will say this: If you take nothing else away than this absolute fact — and communicate this to people — that 95-plus percent of everyone who is incarcerated is going to be released. The vast majority — more than 95 percent will be released. What are we doing as a society, at the federal level, at a state level, at local levels — what are we doing to ensure that they have been rehabilitated and that they can be re-assimilated? We are good at removing, but we need to do more than simply remove people from society.

Something we’re battling with in Kentucky, as are other states — I look to states like Kansas and others who have done this well, Texas and Georgia, and Oklahoma. Many are doing it well. There’s no pride of ownership in any of this. We want to steal good ideas from one another. We want the best ideas to make their way forward, and I’m truly grateful to the President, to the Attorney General, and to others who are taking this seriously at the highest levels because it will make a transformative change in America.

The final point I’ll say is this: The workforce in America demands this, is begging for this. There are millions of jobs that need to be filled. We have millions of people — 2 million people — currently in our penal system, 95 percent of whom are going to come out. We need them to become a functional part of our economic society. And so that is really what we’re here for today.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Governor.

GOVERNOR BEVIN: Thank you, sir.

THE PRESIDENT: Governor Brownback, would you like to say something

GOVERNOR BROWNBACK: Yeah. First, I want to thank you for taking this topic up. I don’t know of a recent presidency that’s taken the topic up in a serious way. It’s one that needs discussion and it needs focus. And I just — I deeply appreciate you doing it.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you.

GOVERNOR BROWNBACK: We have a Bureau of Prisons facility in Leavenworth, in our state, and they need them to do these sort of programs.

The biggest thing that we’ve gotten done that’s been successful have been mentoring programs, private person-to-person mentoring programs. We’ve got 7,500 matches that we’ve made. Because most people, when they come out of prisons, they don’t have many relationships that are reliable or good for them to get back on their feet.

And that has cut the recidivism rate, for those 7,500, in half — from 20 to under 10 percent. And I just think that makes sense for us to do to help them out.

THE PRESIDENT: Absolutely.

GOVERNOR BROWNBACK: And so I applaud you and I really think it’s an important topic to take up.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, thank you very much, Governor. Jeff, would you like to say something?

ATTORNEY GENERAL SESSIONS: Thank you, Mr. President. I look forward to hearing from this group of people who are really a great group. Jared, I appreciate your leadership on this and pushing this.

We believe that we’re already spending money in the federal prison system. Frankly, we got a report late last year that it’s not — the money isn’t being spent well. Our new prison commissioner is committed to doing a better job on reentry programs and job-training programs. And so, if we do this right, I think we can make progress.

THE PRESIDENT: Good. Thank you very much.

Matt, would you like to say something before we go back to a private discussion?

MR. SCHLAPP: Sure. Yeah, look, I think this is one of the issues that people from the community I spend a lot of time with — conservatives — are focused on. I also think there’s people on the other side of the political spectrum that have a heart and want to make sure that people’s lives can be put back together.

But one thing that’s interesting is, when you look at this crime recidivism, and it’s too high — the rate is too high. People need to have a job. They need to be able to get hired. They need to feel the pride and the ownership of a job. And the fact that this economy is rolling, and that these regulations and taxes and everything are going in the right direction, it’s giving hope to a lot of people. So that’s the first step.

Now we got to do the right things on the public policy.

THE PRESIDENT: Brooke, how about you?

MS. ROLLINS: Well, thank you for taking this on. Thank you for making it an issue. You know I think about your great vision for America, which is to make it great again, and I think about all that you and your team have done on tax reform, and regulatory reform, and coming into welfare reform. Those are all things that the state of Texas has been doing for a long time, as you know.

But about 10 years ago, we decided that it was time that we really look at criminal justice reform because America has 5 percent of the world’s population, but we have 25 percent of the world’s incarcerated. And when you think about 95 percent of those folks are all coming back out in the communities, what can we do as a society to make sure that they are reintegrated in a successful way, instead of going back into prison, which 400 [thousand] of 600,000 do.

So, in Texas, we changed our laws, we’ve shut eight prisons down, we’ve decreased our incarceration rate by 20 percent, but the most important part of all of that is our crime rate is down 31 percent in the state of Texas since we undertook all of these reforms.

THE PRESIDENT: That’s fantastic.

MS. ROLLINS: This works. And it is a beautiful, beautiful policy issue because it’s bipartisan. Everyone agrees that we want those who are coming back out into our communities to have safer streets, to go back to their families, to have stronger families, and be able to work in the communities where they once resided.

So, amen, and we applaud you for really bring this on. Thank you.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, thank you very much, Brooke. I appreciate that that very much.

Thank you very much everybody. Thank you.

Q Mr. President, what’s your current thinking on Iran, sir? On Iran, what’s your current thinking?

GOVERNOR BEVIN: Focus.

THE PRESIDENT: You’re going to be finding out very soon. You’ll be finding that out very soon.

Thank you.

Q Mr. President, have you ruled out a meeting with Mueller? Or is this still something that you —

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much.

Q How do you think the physical will go tomorrow?

THE PRESIDENT: I think it’s going to go very well. I’ll be very surprised if it doesn’t.

Q Mr. President, why did you backtrack on your stance on FISA?

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much everybody.

Q (Inaudible) immigration?

THE PRESIDENT: It better go well, otherwise the stock market will not be happy. (Laughter.)

END

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80 Responses to President Trump Meeting and Discussion on Prison Reform…

  1. jeans2nd says:

    If one pays attention to the Inspector General community, their twitter feed https://twitter.com/OversightGov and their website https://www.oversight.gov/
    one sees that prison reform has been very big on the IG list in recent months.

    Thank you for including this.
    AG Jeff responds to the IG community. Pres Trump responds to AG Jeff and the IG community. Nothing is overlooked.

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    • Carrie2 says:

      Jean, I like how the President is always pleasant and always thanking others, especially for their input. He doesn’t talk down to them with his nose high in the air. He knows how to work with people where the former WH alien did not. He knows how to boost their confidence in what they are doing and have done. In other words, he knows how to deal with people and not insult them (altho he may be thinking “bless their heart).

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  2. M. Mueller says:

    Maybe part of “prison reform” can be expanding GITMO for treason?

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  3. tazz2293 says:

    This is good news. Anyone who has had a family member experience this type of challenge will tell you that it is damn hard rebuilding one’s life after a run in with the law. I don’t excuse anyone who has made poor choices that left them with limited options, what is tough though is seeing those same people working hard to re-establish themselves after “Paying their debt to society” only to be turned away time and time again. Left with few options on how to make their life better. there are many reasons why it is hard for folks like this. There are those out there who would jump at a chance to make things right in all ways possible if only allowed the opportunity

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    • John Carifidy says:

      Last week Joe Pags had a couple of lawyers from some think tank in DC on discussing just this; after paying their debt to society, they still pay. Particularly those that learn a skilled trade in prison, but due to a prison record are shut out of gainful employment through the occupational license requirements some cities and states have. Very interesting discussion, made me rethink some of my own ideas and prejudices regarding former inmates.

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      • tazz2293 says:

        Yes, many do still pay. I won’t argue that there are those who neither want a chance nor do they deserve a chance, but, there are those who do. The hard part is figuring out those who want the chance at an opportunity for a better life and those who don’t.

        America was once the land of second chances and opportunity.

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      • Melanie says:

        Shut Down The Mug Shot Sites! It’s nearly impossible for r e-entry into the job market when a simple google search by a potential employer sees a Mug Shot on first Search.
        Some of these people were proven not guilty! These sites need to be better regulated.

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        • Bugsdaddy says:

          Thats a start. I know of a gentleman who goes to our church who can not get a job because he was arrested. And then the charges were subsequently dropped. UNFAIR!!
          All because someone was trying to pay him back……
          This is not a sea story, I’ve known this man for over 20 years and KNOW the facts of what happened.

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    • LetsPlay says:

      You might think that the liberals and corporate globalists who are willing to bet on “imported” labor with little or no skills, and sketchy criminal backgrounds would have a little more interest in helping other Americans. Let’s face it, this is part of America and is our problem whether we like it or not. It is a 360 degree problem including the justice system that is way out of balance in favoring the criminal over victims, but on the other hand, we need to make sure the punishments fit the crime. Allowing novice criminals to enter prisons for higher ed in criminology is the wrong way to invest. Rather than creating harder criminals by allowing the system to beat them into animals, we need to change the system completely. I’m sure the pro’s know who the hard criminals are and the ones who make mistakes and wind up on the wrong side of the law. Segment and keep these apart more effectively as a start to change the recidivism stat. That is the other reality that must be faced, 95% do necessarily deserve to be released. There are real criminals in those numbers.

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      • 4sure says:

        ” I’m sure the pro’s know who the hard criminals are and the ones who make mistakes and wind up on the wrong side of the law. Segment and keep these apart more effectively as a start to change the recidivism stat. ”

        That’s true. However, if you look at the prison population, you will find that most are losers.

        They have been irresponsible and have made no real effort to ever be a contributing member of society. They have been raised in fatherless homes, spent all of their life surrounded by gang bangers, have been told that they have been discriminated against by whitey, have no skills, no education, were problems in school, were habitual juvenile offenders, and just good candidates to be living in a shithole country.

        Trying to rehab them is a waste of money. You lock those people up when they are in the prime of their criminal lives, 18-50. You keep them in prison until they are 55 yrs. old. You put them on welfare when they get out. There are not that many 55plus yr. old violent criminals. They can’t run w/the young gang bangers.

        The time to start trying to rehab someone and teach them skills and how to be responsible is not after a life of crime and being useless to society. The time to start is when they are young. The progressive ed. system has failed its mission. Progressives have destroyed the family.

        These people meeting yesterday were focused entirely on the wrong subject area. They were essentially spitting out the same old political correctness BS that they always do.

        Prisons are really nothing more than a warehouse to keep the losers away from others;.

        I can look at any ten yr. old’s background, culture, family structure, attitude, IQ, family history, etc. and I can tell you with 90% accuracy if that person will end up in prison or not. Some “experts” can probably do it at an earlier age. It aint rocket science. We know who they are. Just as we know who the ones are that are likely to be a hijacker on an airplane. But like the TSA, we can’t focus our efforts on them, we have to treat everyone like they are a terrorist trying to board a plane. That’s the fkg. progressives. And they are applying the same logic to i-ding the problem youth in our society. That’s racist. So, we treat everyone as if they are future brain surgeons and rocket scientists. And we wonde why the prisons are filled w/recidivists.

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    • Mia C says:

      I agree. We can’t leave former inmates with zero options. Plenty of people can be reformed. Also, as much prevention as possible too.
      1) De-incentivizing single motherhood. We can’t do anything about the current welfare rates for the kids but we could do more to promote marriage. Then people would teach each other that that’s the route that works best, Right now in the black community everyone teaches each other how to go down to the welfare office and get more money for having a bunch of kids with no father. They get raised by the streets and turn to gangs which teach a life of crime.
      2) Mentors.
      3) More interesting life paths. What can we do to promote fun, interesting careers? Otherwise, people will turn to the excitement of the streets rather than the drudg. So if we know that kids in rural or urban areas are excelling at sports, can we find more opportunities in athletics that are below the professional big time levels.
      4) More job training for working with your hands in carpentry, automotives, etc.
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      We cannot wait until you’re in the prison system to get some attention to you. But then we also need more paths out once you’ve been in.

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  4. Brant says:

    If Sessions wasnt still in Trumps blessing, he wouldn’t be there. If Trump was really really mad at him, a “firing” would be pretty much unattainable, but he could have him do some “HR” work like someone else. That Sessions is front and center in a small group like that, not just standard Cabinet meeting means Sessions is doing OK with Trump. They are working together on “other” things. This maybe was even a planned showcase of that.

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    • litlbit2 says:

      On Sessions, still having doubts. However, President Trump has not disappointed me, have to believe Trump’s got this.
      After January…….waiting.

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    • Brant says:

      Also, maybe this was a way to get Sessions into the White House undetected to discuss “other” things. He was there to talk about prison reform……..and was there for a quick 15 minute 1 on 1 with Trump…….

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      • LetsPlay says:

        Maybe they are planning a new cell block for the up coming convicts, like Hillary, Barry, Eric, Lowretta, Comey, and the rest of the crew. A new black site would be just the ticket.

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    • 4sure says:

      geesh. What else does your crystal ball tell you.

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      • Brant says:

        I was just trying to think how something could appear very obvious, but have a bit of something else important. I think Trump does a lot of this……to his advantage. Trump is the best at laser pointers and guiding his detractors in a certain direction while he does something else. He is using their own weaknesses against them.

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  5. William F Buckley's Ghost says:

    Prison reform is the Koch Brothers code word for letting the thugs out of prison and making it even more difficult to put them behind bars in the first place. It’s just another version of getting cheap labor just like importing millions of illegal immigrants.

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    • Colorado Conservative says:

      You nailed it. The Koch Brothers (no friend to conservatives) paired up with Soros and the ACLU to force this “criminal justice reform” through Congress. And they found their useful idiots like Senator Mike Lee to assist them. Of course the violent drug felons released back to “their communities” will live nowhere near the Koch Brothers.

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    • Charlotte says:

      I don’t want prison reform for HILLARY
      I don’t want prison reform for Muslim terrorists
      I don’t want prison reform for murderers and illegals who murder.
      I don’t want prison reform for pedophiles and child abusers.
      I don’t want prison reform for foreign gangs like MS-13

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  6. kinthenorthwest says:

    Do a prison ministry and the need for good release programs prior to release is an area a good many prisons lack. Most prisoners are just given a bus ticket to get to their release area, and a few extra buck & that is it.
    The other area is jobs and places for release prisoners to stay,
    Too often released prisoners have no support system on the outside, even when they do have a family in the area they are being released to.. Too often there are stories of released prisoners who go to their parole office only to find that there are no jobs and/or housing resources/support for them. So within a few hours, maybe days of landing in their released city, they commit a crime hoping to be caught and re-incarcerated cause its the only life and way they know that they can survive. Thus the cycle begins again..
    Interesting piece of knowledge is that many of the jobs that released prisoners usually get are the same ones that Illegals have now taken over….Restaurant, construction, janitors, delivery driving and other similar jobs are some of the jobs almost totally done by illegals now a days that felons used be able to do…. .

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    • Now watching for Prisoner Restoration Reform to be added to the comprehensive Immigration Plan.

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    • LetsPlay says:

      Kin, you bring up many good points about support once released. But part of the separation process should be a thorough preparation mentally that they may need to just start at the bottom, grunt it out for awhile, keep their nose clean and reestablish their creds. Once, they have demonstrated certain markers, there should be a “next step” support for work/jobs where employers can be more certain of whom they are hiring. Call it a reward for being a good boy. Of course, there will be people who will try to take advantage of these people, provoke them because they can, etc. but with support, they can make some big steps to stay out of trouble. But damn, we give so much help to illegals, lets transfer some of that to Americans who need the help. Dammit to hell.

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      • kinthenorthwest says:

        Most are willing to grunt it out…Ditch digging, washing dishes, picking crops, and the list goes on of the jobs that have been taken over by Illegals.

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    • Rob1 says:

      I’ve often thought that prison terms could be shortened if the prison experience was made to be harsher — even to include solitary confinement. For certain types of crimes, imagine doing 4 weeks of solitary confinement (with no TV!), vs. doing 5 years in “white collar resort prison”.

      The person in solitary for 4 weeks still remembers what it’s like on the outside, and when he gets out he does not want to go back in. He has gotten a second chance at life. If he had a house, it is still there when he gets out.

      The person imprisoned for 5 years begins to get used to it, picks up bad habits from bad people, and has missed out on a big piece of his life. He hasn’t been able to pay his mortgage, so has no place to go when he gets out. His best options are more crime and going back to prison.

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    • Mia C says:

      –I think prison ministry is ok. Churches should do that though.
      –There have to be non-religious reform methods too. Jesus and Mohmammed are not the only way. The Left thinks education is a cure-all. It too is not. Not everyone needs to read To Kill a Mockingbird.
      –Add some job training skills.
      –Anyway, need to have a lot of different answers. It’s a gigantic problem.

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      • jmclever says:

        GED and learn a trade are basics. Connected with a mentor on the outside is great idea. Properly vetted mentors can be HUGE foryoung man who grew up fatherless to have a good role model

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  7. fleporeblog says:

    The Kentucky Governor shared a stat I wasn’t aware of. 95% of men and women that are incarcerated will eventually come out. I actually like the idea of what he is doing in the State of Kentucky. Teaching them a trade that allows them to leave with the certification allows them a better chance at employment and a positive future. The sad truth is that there are so many jobs that are looking for qualified workers. Hopefully more and more students that graduate high school that don’t want to incur ridiculous debt decide to go the route of trade school. There are plenty of opportunities for both.

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  8. Bill Robbins says:

    Prison reform? You mean, like, building more prisons?

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    • All American Snowflake says:

      No. like, taking the prison system out of the hands of infinite loopy private enterprise police corruption. Taking it out of the hands of those where the “money not being spent well” as Sessions stated.
      “We believe that we’re already spending money in the federal prison system. Frankly, we got a report late last year that it’s not — the money isn’t being spent well.” ~AG Jeff Sessions

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  9. Watcher says:

    Teach a trade in school.police,firemen,nurse, tradesmen.
    One in every three black males born today can expect to go to prison at some point in their life, compared with one in every six Latino males, and one in every 17 white males, if current incarceration trends continue.

    .

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/04/racial-disparities-criminal-justice_n_4045144.html

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  10. Micharl says:

    A few weeks ago over at powerline there was a post quoting aminister in Baltimore Maryland saying roughly these men have served their time but they can I get a chance second chance. I have tried to reach out to this minister and to say do you understand that trumps immigration policy is about creating opportunities for convicts who have served their time. It remains easier for employer to hire someone who turns out to be an illegal but has no known no criminal background that it is too hire A convict illegal aliens have taken away opportunities that belong to American convicts who want to improve their lives. I am so pleased that trump is paying attention to this issue.

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    • kinthenorthwest says:

      Exactly what I was saying. The illegals have taken over the employment areas that released prisoners used to use to get back on their feet when first released.

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  11. Mashall says:

    Work Gangs with Infastructure Construction/Maintenance. Self sufficiency in agriculture and other prison industry. 3 hots and a cot with A/C/TV/Internet/healthcare and a book to read are not repaying society. Forbid and GED/standard education to any inmate at any time, (they had their chance and blew it, taxpayers have already paid once) and most abso-damn-lutely, NO COLLEGE to inmates

    At present in America there are millions who don’t fear prison. Thugs celebrate it as a rite of passage.

    To Make America Great Again,
    America must make Prison Hell Again.

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    • Mashall says:

      In addition to my above comment,
      Absolutely NO Section 8 Housing or Vouchers (Not allowed on HUD funded property)
      Absolutely NO Food Stamps
      Absolutely NO Welfare
      Go beg the Church, you might get a handout.
      Absolutely Zero from the taxpayers after release.
      Don’t like it the job choices because of your convictions, leave the US.
      We don’t need you.
      The most accurate predictor of future behavior is past behavior,
      They have marked themselves.

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    • Prison is heaven to most multi sexual multi cultural types. Here’s the problem: Our Federal justice system in particular and to a lesser extent some states are using conviction as a larceny by conversion scam. to whit: seizing assets of “suspects” muscling them into “convictions” disguised as pleas (who can fight the government with no money?) and validating this crime by labeling the target a “felon”. What then? Do these people need to be put on a chain gang? Fed bread and water? Left to sit on a wet stone floor with rodents?

      I’m all for law and order- as well as hard time. BUT we need t make sure that the leftists you see at the DOJ are not “Social engineering” (they are) with the penal system. Once you have convictions for real crimes- not made up ones- THEN put the heat on the guilty. And yes, teach them a skilled trade. Someone has to replace Hector after he’s deported.

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    • LetsPlay says:

      You have a point there. Except for liberals and do gooders, whatever happened to inmates breaking rocks with a sledge hammer all day so at night all they had energy to do was fall asleep? Hard labor will sap the hate out of many. Instead they are given good eats, and lots of time to bulk up on the weight machines so when they come out they can look like monsters and sign up with the NFL. /sarc he he

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  12. emet says:

    Christian ministry and vocational training. Only by accepting Our Savior can these men and women gain the power to reject sin.

    As for the criminal justice system, it is best seen as a deterrent. Yes, crimes of passion etc cannot be deterred, but most cgiminal activity can. The strength of the deterrent is based on 1) The chance of getting caught 2) certainty of consequences 3) severity of consequences. When all three are strong, like a tripod, you have effective deterrent. This is a huge topic, but just consider one piece, what “severity of consequences” might mean. Example: Most hard core gang members are not afraid of going to prison. Their lifestyles are barely affected. They will hang out with their fellow gang members, they will have sex, they will obtain drugs. But send them out of their area, and anxiety and fear set in. No support group. No friends and family closeby on the outside. Add cell phone jamming at the facility and they can’t get anything done. To them this is severe.

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  13. prenanny says:

    If someone learns a skill in prison they should payback the taxpayers when they are released and gainfully employed. The cost should be equal to or higher than the cost that law abiding citizens had to pay to get the same skills. Not a crippling amount that they cannot afford to live, but it should be paid back.

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  14. jrapdx says:

    A big part of the problem in prisons is the very significant proportion of seriously mentally ill among inmates. The stats vary but rates of mental illness among prisoners is >40%, about 4 times the general population. These prisoners complicate the management of corrections facilities and contributes to recidivism rates. The proportion of psychiatric disorders among inmates in part reflects deinstitutionalization and lack of adequate treatment for these individuals in the community.

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    • prenanny says:

      I do not believe that at all, would love to see a breakdown of what mental disorders they are claimed to have.

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      • Rob1 says:

        Not only that, but jrapdx is saying that more than 10% of the general population has mental illness. This sounds like one of those made-up statistics. Whether the percentages are correct or not all depends on how “mental illness” is defined.

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    • jmclever says:

      @jrapdx many mental disorders have their genesis in the abusive home/neighborhood environment that they grow up in. There is definitely a correlation with mental health and prison population but it is not organic disorders like schizophrenia. There is a type of PTSD gaining recognition among mental health professionals called complex PTSD or CPTSD the main difference is that CPTSD comes from a long term situatuon like chronic childhood abuse (abused women also have it) while PTSD is from one specific event like a tour of duty for soldiers or surviving a horrific event. Of you’re interested Richard Grannon (YouTube) has very good info to understand itand healing approaches. This kind of counseling also could help prevent recidivism and promote productive reintegration into society

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  15. Mashall says:

    http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/article/Millet-Harrison-to-be-released-from-Rusk-6158660.php

    Read what he did….
    So, mentally ill, or not, do you want him around you or your’s?
    He should have got the needle. Mentally Ill or not, put it down like the murderous animal it is.
    How else can you explain to the second victim’s family or society at large, that you didn’t know he had the capacity to kill, when had already done it before? You could not. Because you knew.

    To Make America Great Again,
    America must make Prison Hell Again.

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  16. John Matrix says:

    Once again, thank you President Trump!
    With perfect clarity, he has proposed a way to reincorporate amd include ALL Americans in MAGA.
    Emotional responses, irrational fear aside, the real world fact is that 95% of the population in prison will one day be released. Just looking at the economic gain in and of itself makes perfect sense.
    Besides, by providing a ladder up and away from crime, each successful rehabilitated individual not only becomes a productive citizen, their absence from jail/prison leaves more space for the dummy sure to fill their spot down the line.
    Also, this is America, not backwards country. We understand second chances.

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  17. LetsPlay says:

    The President has a list and he is checking it daily, gonna get done whether you like it or not. But everything on his list makes sense, fits together in a whole to MAGA. Really makes you wonder just what all the “professional polititicans” do for a living. The man is getting things done. God bless him.

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  18. KBR says:

    Why is there so much crime WITHIN prisons?

    Rape has become so common, apparently, that it is widely expected that going to prison=rape.
    Is rape not a crime WITHIN as well as without?

    Why, in this age of everybody being spied upon, are those who have commited crimes not monitored against crimes WITHIN?

    Prison hospitals are known for treating wounds from prisoner-made weapons.
    Drugs are bought sold used WITHIN.
    Prisoners have GANG activity.

    I think crimes WITHIN need immediate prosecutions and extremely harsh punishments.

    How can we expect those who are released not to have been psychologically damaged by all that?

    Time in prison should be hard, lonely, exceptionally difficult, and completely UNFREE.
    But the punishment should not include being forced to join a gang, being raped repeatedly nor being a victim of any other CRIME: they cannot run away, move away from this crime ridden area.
    There is no help.

    Prisoners should earn their keep, as far as possible.

    Many law-abiding citizens cannot afford weightrooms, basketball courts, computers, specialized job training/college and the fees associated with examinations for licensures: why do people WITHIN get all this, unless they are paying for it themselves via hard labor?

    But the only thing a prisoner should fear WITHIN is never getting OUT, not being a trapped victim WITHIN.

    FREEDOM to commit crimes WITHIN prisons needs to be STOPPED. But guards are apparently told to look the other way…

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    • KBR says:

      If any of you think being raped and/or shanked should be part of the punishment, then make that part of the sentence for the crime!

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    • fuzzi says:

      Crime being allowed inside prison is partly due to the prison guards bringing in contraband, looking the other way, accepting bribes.

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    • Margaret says:

      I agree. Rampant crime in prison is unacceptable. I don’t know how to prevent most of it unless we had a guard for every two or three prisoners. Most people in prison are criminals, thus likely dangerous to one another.

      Forcing prisoners to do hard labor was fought as both cruel and taking jobs from union members. Reinstating road gangs, road clean-up, working at waste management sites seem like good jobs and would work off excess energy while benefitting our communities. They could be taught marketable skills after dinner, if they were interested.

      I think that stone-cold killers, whether mentally ill or not, should be executed. No worry about them being released to kill again or having to pay for their incarceration/health care (and no transgender surgeries!), etc. No lengthy appeals. Just done and gone.

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  19. mikgen says:

    Excellent comment by Gov Bevin when the news-person started to ask questions about Iran:

    FOCUS!

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  20. Mickturn says:

    How about incentives to companies that hire former felons…money talks. The stigma of being a former felon is a huge one, that is the key barrier we need to work to fix. I don’t have all the answers but as long as smart people are trying to solve this we at least have a chance of success!

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    • 4sure says:

      Most former felons sent to prison are still felons. Most are irresponsible and have made pee poor decisions all their miserable lives. Let’s not get stung by the PC bug. Employers do not want to hire most of them because employers are not stupid. They know, felon or not, who is going to make a good employee.

      They are not in the “can I Help you change your life long screwed up life by paying you good money to hang out here.” That’s what the gubmint is for. Pay gang bangers to hang in the hood and commit crimes.

      As I stated earlier, you focus on this problem when a person is very very very young. And we know who that person is likely to be w/90% accuracy. It’s not rocket science. Ask any social services worker, any public school teacher, any cop on a beat who works w/juveniles, and anyone else who knows what broken families and living in the hood on generations of welfare does to the youth.

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  21. mashall says:

    Ignorance of the Law: How many parents have a copy of their state penal code at home (buy one online cheap) to teach their children the law and punishments?

    Another point in improving the effectiveness of the US Prison System: Teach required classes, starting in elementary, Junior High, and High School, called “You and the Law”. These classes teach the inseparable relationships between civilization and the peace officers/police/sheriffs. They also teach in appropriate levels of depth, State Law and Punishments. If you can teach a youth not to put a fork in a wall outlet, you can teach a youth not put a knife in Granny’s back.

    Real Time Sentencing. 10 years equals 10 years. Only allow very slight reductions (for specific convictions, i.e. non-violent offenses) for good behavior if you work on the asphalt crew filling potholes, cutting brush, cleaning parks, painting, farming to feed the prison population, etc, etc.
    Make the Prison Self-Sustainable and not a huge burden on the taxpayer as it is now. The saving of cost to the taxpayer for infastructure projects is wide open. Marketable skills are developed at the same time. NO signifiantly quantifiable work output, no sentence reductions, reduction to minimum sustenence allowed by law. Absolutely no Gym equipment or sporting goods, The only excercise they should get should be derived from the hard labor that directly benefits America.
    We’ve created a College of Crime Gangster Training Camp only to release more cunning/connected/ruthless/muscular predators on the US population.

    To Make America Great Again
    America must Make Prison Hell Again.

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    • Margaret says:

      Perfectly stated. Thank you.

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    • John Matrix says:

      Hahahaha! Love the idea of educating the young but…i think we all could have benefited from little Chelsea having instruction like this as a wee youth rather than being mentored by mommy canckles and Mena mob boss daddy!

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  22. nottakingthisanymore says:

    Known law enforcement techniques that work.

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  23. nottakingthisanymore says:

    Decrease prison gain time.

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  24. justafly says:

    I read an interesting perspective on criminal punishment recently. The author suggested ancient methods for punishing persons convicted of crimes commensurate with the harm to the victim and NOT punishing the criminal’s family by removing the father/breadwinner.
    Close the prison industrial business then the guilty party either pays restitution seven-fold, is given the death penalty or receives lashes. Lashing sounds harsh, but when polled, incarcerated prisoners responded they would prefer lashings and then being released and said they would be less likely to re-offend
    It will never happen, but this does touch on a few important issues, I believe. Punishing the families and the state removing the father from the home is one reason understood for the increase in crime in poorer, urban areas. Punish the offender for sure, but permit the ‘man of the house’ to remain showing the harsh restitution as the consequence of criminal behavior instead of hiding away behind barbed wire the hardship of criminal actions.
    fwiw

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  25. PatriotKate says:

    The best thing we could do for Prison Reform is get rid of massive, ridiculous laws that put non-violent criminals into prison, breaks up families and cause a downfall of civil society. We really need to adopt an attitude of refusing to charge and convict people for “victimless” crimes (i.e. individual pot use – how many 3 strikes Californians are sitting in prison for such ridiculous convictions?). I worry that Sessions would be willing here, as he has a big investment in Vanguard (private prison system).

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  26. Bendix says:

    Something badly needed.
    What we need as well, is places for the severly mentally ill to go, besides jail.
    Our prisons are still more or less run the way they were in victorian times, this is an area we need to be ‘progressive’ in, if you’ll pardon the term.

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  27. PowerCord says:

    Going to jail or prison is kind of like getting pregnant, you can’t undo it at any stage. You might stop it, but once it’s done, it’s done and one should be responsible the repercussions… however “bad” they may be.

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  28. jmclever says:

    The word reform means something totally different to progs than it does to these governors and President Trump. But our lion will trick them into going along by using their own game of bait and switch language to his advantage. And they will balk at his plans and expose themselves. Watch him even address eliminating the school to prison pipeline. (Insert maniacal laugh) WINNING!!

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