Trump -v- Bannon…

Look, two things: First, despite the temptation, CTH is not going to say “we toldya so“; it’s irrelevant, combative and unnecessary. Second, I’m not going to go through the repository of all the times there have been harsh words upon this site criticizing CTH previous warnings about this day; again, irrelevant, combative and unnecessary.

CTH views our place, our responsibility for tone and presentation amid the ongoing struggle against the larger political left, as a foxhole discussion during consequential combat. What is the most valuable spirit within that foxhole?

MAGA cannot win without each other. MAGA cannot win without a positive outlook. MAGA cannot win, without a confidence in ourselves and our ability, and MAGA does not deserve to win if the end result of that winning is not ultimately our ability to provide the benefit of winning to the entire country, including the ‘other side’.

Understanding the bigger picture, CTH does not drive purpose with hot anger; energy is too valuable. CTH drives purpose with cold resolve, deliberate. As such, the larger CTH perspective is not disappointment in Steve Bannon, because CTH fully researched, understood and anticipated these moments with Steve Bannon – hence the prior warnings. However, CTH also accepts we cannot force anyone to understand the larger reasons for those warnings.

The goal of walking to discover truth is not to convince. If convincing is the goal, the amount of energy expended is exhausting. The truth of situations, circumstances and ultimately motives, exists regardless of our opinions of it. It just is. Our goal is to simply enjoy the complex conversation as we discover the location.  Deep, friendly, walking.

An honorable man does not personally attack the family of a man he supports. Period.

Regardless of all other things, what a person does speaks more loudly than what a person says. Character is not what you do when needed; character is who you are when no-one is paying attention.

Previous emotionally-driven attacks on Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, HR McMaster and Rex Tillerson showed the substance of Mr. Bannon’s character.

President Trump is the MAGA wave; Steve Bannon -and company- was/are surfers. Ultimately that’s the reason why Robert Mercer, and others, backed away from Bannon.

According to the controversial discussion between Steve Bannon and author Michael Wolff (for a recent book) as specifically quoted by Wolff:

“The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor — with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers. Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad s***, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.”

This is a quote from Steve Bannon that has driven much of the controversy. The ongoing criticism of Jared Kushner and Donald Trump Jr also sounds just like Steve Bannon. Mr. Bannon has an over-inflated perspective of his own importance. Accepting THAT reality was essentially the basis for our prior warnings.

A righteously outraged President Trump responds accordingly:

Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my Presidency. When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind. Steve was a staffer who worked for me after I had already won the nomination by defeating seventeen candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party.

Now that he is on his own, Steve is learning that winning isn’t as easy as I make it look. Steve had very little to do with our historic victory, which was delivered by the forgotten men and women of this country. Yet Steve had everything to do with the loss of a Senate seat in Alabama held for more than thirty years by Republicans. Steve doesn’t represent my base he’s only in it for himself.

Steve pretends to be at war with the media, which he calls the opposition party, yet he spent his time at the White House leaking false information to the media to make himself seem far more important than he was. It is the only thing he does well. Steve was rarely in a one-on-one meeting with me and only pretends to have had influence to fool a few people with no access and no clue, whom he helped write phony books.

We have many great Republican members of Congress and candidates who are very supportive of the Make America Great Again agenda. Like me, they love the United States of America and are helping to finally take our country back and build it up, rather than simply seeking to burn it all down.

~ President Donald J Trump

Again, Wolfmoon’s explainer more true today than it was a year ago:

“Well, I don’t really have to do any holding together, now that I figured out what Trump is up to. He is shaking things out, but counting on Trump gravity to pull things back together as he moves along.

He is moving “forward” at speeds Obama could not even dream of.

You and I will be anti-Trump trolls one day and MAGA heroes the next. Get used to it. Trump speed is the new normal. Some will call it flip-flopping, but that’s not what it is. Trump is dodging and weaving through reality faster than the reality can react to disrupt his plans.

I was explaining this to my wife. This is a roller-coaster now. Trump is no longer waiting for people to keep up. He is taking his bewildering art-of-the-deal campaign schtick into geopolitics, and for a lot of people who can’t keep up or hold on, it will be a rough ride.

Trump is no longer playing only with evil and cunning players who are still predictable, easily beatable dopes, like Hillary. He is playing against killers, with his own team of killers, and all the while he has scheming creeps like Hillary, BGI, SPLC, and the neocons gunning for him. Snake Ryan ready to bite when nobody is looking. “Warhead” McCain screaming for Russian blood. Psycho Kim and Samoa Obama plotting some kind of intrigue to take him down. And THOSE are the lightweights.

This is the majors now. Trump has to outwit world-class adversaries and “frenemies” by defining the deals that they will agree to. One minute they will think Trump is their friend – the next minute, a cunning, bitter foe.

And he has to do this with evil cheerleaders like Warhead, Linderace, Dipsy Dowd, Maggie Haterman, and Fake Yapper trashing him or praising him alternately, no matter which way he goes. They can’t keep up, either.

Neither can many around him. I think that half of the problem with advisers crashing into each other is they don’t realize what Trump is doing.

And people will trash you, and they will trash me. Get used to it. I’ve already caught plenty of people mocking me. Well, just wait a week in Trump time. Look stupid and conned by Trump one minute, and you look like a sage three days later.

Trump will not find perfect solutions. He will find OPTIMAL solutions. We cannot ask for more. Trump has stood by and watched Perfect murder Good for 8 years – maybe longer. He’s not gonna do it. He’s going to deliver the best outcome possible, and he’s not waiting for us to feel relaxed about it.

Best presidency ever! Just hang on. More winning is coming, but a lot of people are going to scream that it’s all over at EVERY turn.

The best way through this is to define viewpoints, not people, because people will shift as they change position and velocity in Trump gravity. Bash the neocon, warmonger, and dopey globalist positions – not the people who are going to hold them one moment and come loose from them later.

Trump is Jupiter moving through the asteroid belt. He is going to pull people into his orbit. A few will get slung off into space, but most will come along for the ride of their lives.

I am ON the Trump Train for good, even if I scream that I want off and can’t take it.

In the end, I only want to scream “TOO MUCH WINNING!!!” (link)

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753 Responses to Trump -v- Bannon…

  1. dayallaxeded says:

    I still can’t figure out what Bannon ever really did for PDJT, other than provide a link for the Mercers and gin up controversy by leaking or at least promoting leaking of disinformation to enemedia. Not much positive there. On the other hand, I generally liked Sebastian Gorka’s work with PDJT’s admin–he usually did a good job making enemedia face up to their lies and bias. Wonder whether he’ll manage to get back into MAGA orbit and away from the Bannon black (ego) hole?

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    • The Heretic says:

      What did Bannon bring to the Trump table? Trump’s base. I mean, Trump had a base, but it solidified with the addition of Bannon.

      IMO, Bannon is using this to distance himself from Trump. Bannon is going to be engaged in RINO season very shortly. This way Trump can claim he has nothing to do with it. I think all of this is manufactured theater, and the timing is perfect.


      • HMelville says:

        When plotters engage in “manufactured theater” it is usually done to shame and discredit the opposition and not your political party’s own President and his administration. The Democrats would never manufacture this kind of “theatre” with Obama. He was always showboated in a fantasy bubble of perfection and superiority by his clever loyal Dem handlers.

        The only manufactured theater in this latest fiasco is Wolff’s book that unfortunately seems to be bolstered by gullible fools like Bannon that trusted him and let him secretly (I assume) record their comments.
        I understand your wishful thinking about this travesty, but you give leaker Bannon far too much credit for his actions especially when you examine the known facts about him.

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      • dayallaxeded says:

        PDJT’s “base” was and is much, much larger than any “base” Bannon led. At best, Bannon seems to have helped some, maybe most of the Cruzers to open their minds and accept the reality that Trump was their only viable choice.

        As we see, though, many of those who were Cruzers and EggMcMuffin acolytes either went full RomeroRino (i.e., zombie GOPe/never-T), dropped out of the process entirely, or voted for Trump, but continue to undermine his presidency by sniping from the cheap seats. So real additions to PDJT’s base, support, and actual votes–probably not very significant. Some of the Cruze/GOPe organization that was in place during the campaign and election was probably Bannon’s most significant contribution, but PDJT has 2 more years to build on what he’s got on his own and with truly loyal staff and supporters. Bannon’s actions, ever since the inauguration, have not improved his standing or usefulness with anyone but the RomeroRinos.


  2. Lurker says:

    Did you all see Drudge? Bannon has a new benefactor. Think maybe that influenced him to trash talk Trump?

    Liked by 1 person

    • Lurker says:

      Breitbart article from Oct 2017:

      “President Trump reportedly considered deporting a key Chinese dissident from the United States after casino magnate and Republican National Committee finance chairman Steve Wynn hand-delivered him a letter, although advisers later dissuaded him from the move.
      “Where’s the letter that Steve brought?” Trump reportedly said in a meeting discussing the billionaire dissident Guo Wengui, according to the Wall Street Journal. “We need to get this criminal out of the country.”

      Guo is a self-exiled real estate mogul who has been a thorn in the Chinese government’s side, attacking what he calls the “kleptocracy” running China from his apartment in New York City since he fled China in 2014. He has applied for asylum in the U.S. but his case is pending.”

      “Guo reportedly came close to being deported when, in June, Trump and key advisers discussed Guo’s case. Surrounded by aides and others, including Vice President Mike Pence, Senior Advisor Jared Kushner and then-Chief Strategist (and now Breitbart News Executive Chairman) Steve Bannon, Trump made his remarks suggesting Guo needed to be expelled and requested the letter given to him in person by Wynn.

      However, aides reportedly intervened, noting that Guo is a member of Trump’s club in Palm Beach, Florida, and later worked to prevent any attempts to deport Guo. A spokesman for Wynn Resorts told the Journal that the report was “false.” ”

      Something is going on here. The timing of the book, media frenzy over Bannon’s comments, and Bannon’s financial hookup with Guo can’t be coincidental.

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  3. dayallaxeded says:

    Here’s a new (I think) and fun spin–if Wolf’s book is provably misquoting Bannon, PDJT’s response to the false statements could dramatically increase the damage caused by Wolf’s false statements for purposes of a libel claim by Bannon against Wolf and his publisher. Nice little shot across the bow of FakeNews/enemedia. Maybe.


    • HMelville says:

      You definitely think outside the box and I mean that as a compliment. Besides Trump’s tweets like, “The Mercer Family recently dumped the leaker known as Sloppy Steve Bannon. Smart,” there are numerous other condemnatory comments about Steve including his own Breitbart website that clearly demonstrate the actual personal and professional damage the book’s quotes have done to him.
      However, Wolff’s declaration at the beginning of his hit piece that he can’t verify that everything is true might be an effective defense against libel or defamation because it supposedly lets the reader decide what is true or not. Even if Steve could prove later that the quotes were false it might not matter.


  4. Apophasis. A rhetorical device wherein the speaker or writer brings up a subject by either denying it, or denying that it should be brought up.

    Example: “First, despite the temptation, CTH is not going to say “we toldya so“.”

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  5. LM says:

    There is a dearth of proTrump media.

    We have some of Fox, some of the internet, and some of radio…a couple of others like OAN, and maybe Newsmax.

    They have almost all of Hollywood and the MSM as well as some of all of the rest. If you include their youth indoctrination system (our educational systems) you will see that we need all of the help we can get.

    Whatever else he is, I do not believe that Bannon=Sauron.

    I hope and pray that somehow this comes out right. We need Breitbart on the side of MAGA. The Good Lord can do anything, and I know He is helping the President so I am writing to encourage the prayers of the righteous.

    I also encourage everyone to read Jihad Watch. Read all you can about the religion of peace. Look at the makeup of the UN and the religious status of the nations of the world. Assess how this has all changed since the Clintons and Obama seized power.

    There is a need to distinguish between human frailty, misunderstandings, miscommunication, misguidedness, missing the Lord’s guidance, and out-and-out evil.

    I remind everyone that Keith Ellison is 2nd? In command of the Democrat party. There is a reason he was chosen, and a reason they are embracing Antifa (an international organization). It speaks a great deal about who and what the left are.

    Our battle in fighting evil should include accurately defining what we are up against.

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    • Lurker says:

      “We need Breitbart on the side of MAGA”

      As long as Bannon is in charge, it’s never going to happen. Bannon seems to have a #1 goal of destroying Trump and isn’t concerned at all about how his actions affect US citizens let alone Trump and his family. He’s a dirtbag.


      • No, that’s not it.

        Bannon, with an enormously inflated sense of self-importance, believes that he knows MAGA better than anyone, including Trump. Bannon is fighting for HIS OWN version of MAGA. I think in his own mind, Bannon is saving Trump from himself.

        Bannon thinks he knows better than Trump. BAD move; big-wrong-bad judgement idea call.

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        • Lurker says:

          See my reply below, I accidentally created a new comment instead of a reply. I think Bannon is completely self-serving and never gave a crap about the audience he inherited.


        • LM says:

          This is riveting.

          If this is the case, then someone who knows Bannon (who is Jewish) should encourage him to reread the story of David.

          If any believe, as I do, that God annointed Donald Trump for the task of this presidency, then it becomes important to take to heart the example of David—who would not lift up his hand against Saul because of his reverence for God and His annointed.

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          • dayallaxeded says:

            I’ve read about David (a man after God’s own heart); and Mr. Bannon, you are no David.


          • dayallaxeded says:

            Nor is PDJT like Saul, except for his initial anointing.


            • LM says:

              Yes. And Saul was trying to murder David—reason enough for most to consider lifting a hand against him…or worse.

              However, David—indeed “a man after God’s own heart”—demonstrated through his actions the reverence and humility that we should practice.

              I believe that this should serve as a sobering example for those who might seek to exalt themselves by rising up against the President. It would be nice if people like Mitt Romney and Bill Krystol agreed.

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  6. Lurker says:

    I completely disagree with your assessment. I’m assuming (tell me if I’m wrong) that you were or still are a Bannon fan. I was never a fan. I didn’t have an opinion about him. I do now. Bannon was anti-Trump, then seemed to switch and joined Trump’s team, now is back to hating. It’s pretty clear to me that Bannon joined Trump’s team in order to take Trump out, so that he could be inside the camp and report first-hand experiences in order to do his damage. He doesn’t give a crap about this country, only about himself. Tell me how being funded by a wealthy Chinese exile who is seeking asylum in this country is part of MAGA.

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  7. El Torito says:

    Sundance I thank you for this inspiration. I could read this over and over – and I will. I can’t think of the last time that the written word offered such an opportunity to improve myself.
    I’m eternally in your debt.


  8. HMelville says:

    Who was the fool that gave Wolff almost unlimited access to the WH so nitwits like Bannon could vent to him? Reince?

    When Bannon was in the WH, he’d strut like an indispensable peacock and leak to the media like a sieve. Politics is one crazy business and Scaramouch has now been proven right about Bannon. During Bannon’s time in the WH, BB was always trashing someone in Trump’s admin and after he was fired, the attacks on Ivanka, Jared and other Trump officials only accelerated. The guy is an out of control erratic political wrecking ball.

    But now, when he’s under personal fire for his loose lips and hubris, he’s avoiding the limelight he craved and is making ambiguous, insufficient comments about his egregious comments. Drudge is surmising that the Breitbart Board of Directors are discussing firing Bannon. There will not be a more deserving and appropriate time to do so but money talks the loudest and if the alleged Chinese billionaire backer of Bannon says keep him they will and this controversy will only further discredit BB and divert attention away from the investigations about corruption in the FBI and all the other issues. The timing of this trashy book is not coincidental and Bannon’s comments are “treasonous” to the President he served.

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    • onsu says:

      Politico has a report that Sarah Sanders said Bannon approved 95% of wolff’s interviews at the white house. Sorry, I couldn’t find the link to the article but Politico has it on their twitter also. I thought Bannon was a traitor and I remember a while back he gave an interview with (I think) the NYT where Bannon said …”my first executive order was to fire Paul Manafort.” The man is not right, huge ego, he acted like he was the President. I’m glad he outed himself.

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  9. j1u2l3i4a5 says:

    So the left continue to discredit our president. Bannon now is showing he is a traitor. Like we’ve heard, it is so sad when our “own side” decide to beat on our president. As if it was not enough that everyone else does.
    My concern today is about a link a fellow conservative sent me and we are concerned and wonder if there is danger of the 25th amendment being implemented?


  10. David says:

    I have to agree with Sundance on this one even thou I used to think Sundance is wrong about Bannon. One must be able to admit a mistake.

    Liked by 1 person

  11. Mary Smith says:

    In response to LM who states Steve Bannon is Jewish: Bannon is Roman Catholic.


  12. snyderarnold says:

    Still think this is theater between Trump and Bannon. Alabama was lost due to vote fraud. The results in Jefferson County are statistically impossible in a fair election:

    I expect the AL vote fraud to be exposed by the DHS well before the mid-terms.


  13. Frank D. Punchbowl says:

    Bannon tried to orchestrate a 25th amendment coup, with his chinese double agent buddy Miles Kwok. Now Bannons career is toast and Trump is going to hand Kwok over to the Chinese as a bargaibing chip! Good riddance to those two deceitful rats!


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