*Update* Doug Jones Wins – Alabama Election Night Results and Discussion Thread: Roy Moore -vs- Doug Jones

Alabama votes today in the 2017 special election to fill the Senate seat vacated by Attorney General Jeff Sessions.  The last Alabama polls close at 8 p.m. Eastern / 7 p.m Central.

10:45pm UPDATE: Democrat Doug Jones Wins Alabama Senate Seat Formerly Held by Jeff Sessions.  In many ways this result mirrors the 2010 Scott Brown victory in Massachusetts.  Previously Discussed HERE.

The margin of victory appears to be around 1% in favor of the Democrat Doug Jones. 49.7%  -VS-  48.7%  (LINK)

The republican candidate is Roy Moore and the democrat candidate is Doug Jones.  The contest is being watched as a controversial referendum on the political pendulum ahead of the 2018 mid-terms next year.  Currently republicans hold a 52-48 majority in the Senate:

(L-R) Republican, Roy Moore  -VS-  Democrat, Doug Jones

New York Times Election Results HERE

CNN Election Results HERE

Alabama Secretary of State Election Results HERE

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3,606 Responses to *Update* Doug Jones Wins – Alabama Election Night Results and Discussion Thread: Roy Moore -vs- Doug Jones

  1. The Jimmy Jack says:

    If we don’t get a handle on voter fraud ASAP we can kiss 2018 & 2020 goodbye. And after that it’s too late to save the Republic.

    Liked by 23 people

    • john says:

      The Republic is more or less gone.Trump can stop the rot for a while it will be just a respite.

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    • kiss THE COUNTRY goodbye

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      • freedom says:

        With great cooperation from the RINOS who declared war on Roy Moore, the Dems/commies won the election by a hair. There are lessons to be learned here, but the Republican GOPe is not a learning group, it is a destructive group that salivates at the thought of wiping out conservative thought. With Lyin’ Ryan and Mitch McTurtle cheering in the background and Little Jeffie Sessions laying low and allowing Trump to be pilloried every day, there is such little hope that Trump and MAGA can survive much less prosper.
        The country has reached a low point of criminal activity, lack of morality, corruption on an almost unimaginable scale, and such debauchery that I fear the writer, “goldenunicorngaming”, is all too correct.

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        • mcclainra says:

          I think it is time for a new party and POTUS has time to do so by 2020. Let the GOP sink into oblivion. No different from Rats; truly a Uniparty.

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          • dbobway says:

            So this the new strategy to win elections in America?
            I live in the middle of ground zero.
            Ga.,N.C., and yes Alabama.
            I call it the Obama-plican triangle.
            The Communist left is determined to turn these states, along with Fla., into Blue states.
            For 2020, Here in NC we are a Blustate with Blue state Republicans.
            Translation: Oppress African Americans with welfare and prison.
            Unlimited third world immigration(slave labor).
            That will help keep us Red necks down.
            Small business is a dirty word in NC.
            1 choice for health care.
            Highest taxed state in the S.E.
            Worst k-12 schools, between 45th and 50th in the country.
            Judge Roy Moore didn’t have a chance in hell!

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        • 108nams says:

          Great comment, “freedom,” thanks.

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        • dagnyshrug says:

          What was done to Moore will be the democrat playbook for 2018. They’ll trot out female accusers, with fake yearbooks, to accuse every man running of assault. Kelli Ward is the only republican woman running for Senate, as far as I know, but they’ll surely “find’ something equally as awful on her.

          I think most pedestrian republicans are too complacent to prepare for what’s coming and too lazy to get off their couches and create a ground game to combat what the Left is going to throw our way in every single election. They got all riled up for Trump then went back to sleep. Two million of them in Alabama didn’t vote yesterday. They just don’t understand the long game.

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        • lady4trump says:

          Alabama is going to destroy all the ‘evidence’ so it cannot be searched for the truth. Even Alabama is complicit with the cheating. Why on earth would they have to destroy the voting evidence immediately after a very close race? To hide the cheating? That’s what I believe.

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    • mariain ohio says:

      I wasn’t giving much thought to voter fraud until I read this.
      http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/12/in_final-hour_order_court_rule.html
      It certainly made me think twice.

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    • DGC says:

      Fraud? I am not certain what you are referring to. I looked at the demographics for the voting in Alabama yesterday. There were massive swathes of the state that went for Trump in 2016 and Jeff Sessions in 2014 that went for Jones yesterday. The data strongly suggests that large numbers of Republican voters stayed home and didn’t vote in this special election, e.g., 1,318,255 votes for Trump vs 650,436 for Moore (see: https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/alabama and https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/alabama-senate-special-election-roy-moore-doug-jones) It is particularly noteworthy that the number of democrats was essentially constant: 729,547 for Hillary Clinton and 671,151 for Jones. The more plausible reason for this result is that the Democrats turned out for this election while the Republicans did not. Even if cheating occurred, greater Republican turnout would have overwhelmed that margin.

      Moore lost places like Mobile, Tuscaloosa and Huntsville. Moore was just the wrong candidate, a person with a very flawed history who didn’t have broad appeal even among Republican voters in Alabama. It may not have been fair, but it was the political reality that he failed to anticipate and deal with.

      Everyone should be a little more reflective here, lick your wounds and then realize that the only real lesson from this special election is that the candidate matters as much as the message.

      By the way, I highly doubt that the results would have been the same last night if Mo Brooks had been the GOP candidate. That is where the GOPe and Mitch McConnell bears responsibility.

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  2. Donna in Oregon says:

    Demand a recount.
    File a complaint.
    What about those digital votes?

    Don’t give up man!

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  3. Luke of the D says:

    Abortion Jones wins! I feel sorry for Alabama.

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  4. wodiej says:

    Very slim margin. Ask for recount.

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    • BeePee says:

      If Jeff Sessions who recused himself at the expense of the president, hadn’t been given the AG job, we wouldn’t be having this special election in the first place. Oh well. Trump can fire him now being that Roy Moore isn’t going to be there to vote against suspending ’14 August recess, to fire him then, and make a recess appointment for his non swamp replacement.

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    • john says:

      Very slim margin indeed if you consider all the money given by Nazi George Soros,the Ted Steven treatment given to Judge Moore.

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  5. WiVoter says:

    One way to get around democrats stealing elections is to have the more conservative parts of a state specifically larger populated areas, if possible, hold back their vote totals until the leftist cities release their vote totals. Trust me, this is what happens in Wisconsin since Scott Walker came on the scene. Waukesha country holds back their vote total till late in the evening to stop the dems from stealing the election in Milwaukee county.

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    • Peter says:

      WiVoter –

      That is EXACTLY what is going on. Would bet my first born and my bible that is how they are doing it.

      This really needs to stop. Should be change:

      No more staggered results – 4 hours after last vote, update 100% of the precincts at 1 time.

      We are such fools …

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      • pawatcher says:

        Philly has 110% of registered voters vote in every election, and it’s always D votes: and they always hold the results or find new votes somewhere. But they couldn’t keep up with the rest of the state 2016!
        Well the 2016 investigation made the Sec of State resign: no punishment mind you, but fraud.
        The voters in Philly also vote in NJ and NY, wonder if all states are doing that: NH was outed 2016.

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      • annieoakley says:

        I think you are correct.

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    • shadowcole says:

      I said last night, all votes need to be held back until the last votes are counted then all are sent in and the totals added up. No way could they know how many votes to pad their margins with to win.

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      Yes. And, this is legal.

      The voter fraud cannot look too obvious. So, the margin has to be within some limit. This could get done in two stages. First, with good polling, knowing how the vote very well might be, without the fraud. Crank out some ballots to have a modest margin of victory. Hide them in someone’s trunk. Second, on election night, look at how turnout is running in various counties, and fix some ballots to fine-tune the overall outcome.

      So, yes, holding back results would throw a wrench in the works. Also, if no one talked to pollsters.

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  6. Everyone should get on their time machines back to what Bev Harris said about the 2016 election with AJ after Trump won and think about what happened yesterday. Because they’re doing all the same old tricks over and over again. Esp with holding back the heavily populated Dem precincts & counties to see how much fraud they needed to flip it.

    Just look at the ridiculous Dem turnout in a *special election*. Jones was up there with Obama and HRC in the total number of votes in these counties. Totally rigged and a sham.

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  7. paulraven1 says:

    Inexcusable we allowed this to happen. A blow to MAGA and open door to impeachment.

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  8. scarlettbr says:

    Rule for Radicals 101. It appears people have either never read their handbook or have forgotten.
    The Uniparty had a trial run in Alabama for the upcoming elections.
    We will now be subject to constant false accusations by anyone who wants 15 mins of fame. The shameful outcome of all of this, when the dust settles, real rape victims, won’t be believed.

    We didn’t lose an election, we lost Due Process Rights.

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    • jmclever says:

      That’s why Judge Moore must sue Gloria Alred. To put a stop to fake allegations

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      • mike says:

        Several persons need to seriously sued, if not incarcerated. There needs to be consequences to these massive frauds against person, nation and society.

        Liked by 6 people

        • Orygun says:

          In an election this is the same as meddling in an election. If the Dems thought we should start a war with Russia because they bought ad time on Facebook then anyone bringing up false charges should be looking at 20 years in the slammer.

          Destroying the electoral process by dishonest smear campaigns should be a harsh federal crime.

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      • lady4trump says:

        Judge Roy Moore is probably sick to death of everything to do with this election. I would be if I were him.

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  9. standlow says:

    The Democrats tried this same tactic (lying about sexual harassment) against Justice Thomas. The only reason it didn’t succeed then is Senator John Danforth. You can be certain that you’ll see it again.

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  10. Alex F says:

    Last night, this thread was full of trolls. My phone was acting up or the ads on the site were not allowing my to post without my browser freezing up.

    I read on another site that there were columns of busses at the polling places with voters pouring out of them. I find extremely hard to believe that a state as red as Alabama would legitimately elect Doug Jones.

    I believe that President Trump was placed in office though an act of God. I think this is just evil throwing absolutely everything out there to squeak out some sort of victory. In the end…good will win. God does not lose….EVER!

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  11. Nonlocality says:

    Jones should not unpack all of his carpet bags. He has two years.

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  12. Luke of the D says:

    Alright. So Abortion Jones appears to have won the senate seat in Alabama… after the liberal media and hollyweird campaigned for him nonstop, George Soros and his nazi-ill threw tens of millions into the race, and accusers with shady backstories came out of the woodwork, RINOs like the Turtle and Lyin Ryan and McCain aggressivly fought against Judge Moore, traitor never-Trump scum like Matt Drudge and Glen Beck and Hugh Hewitt campaigned nonstop for Abortion Jones, obama comes out swinging like an idiot, the RNC flip-flops on their support for Judge Moore… after all that and more, Abortion Jones won by barely 1% of the votes cast. That is not much of a victory. This was not a referendum on President Trump. Nor was Judge Moore a poor candidate. They threw EVERYTHING at him and eeked by a hair-thing victory! With all the effort the libs threw into this race, it should have been a landslide victory for Abortion Jones. Don’t loose faith, brothers and sisters! Stay motivated and fight throw 2018 and beyond! The Republic is not dead yet. The liberal nightmare has not won!

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    • covfefe999 says:

      The Republican voters in Alabama failed to do their job. This was not about Moore, this was about the party balance in Congress and Trump’s agenda. The Alabama Republicans just made it more difficult for Trump to succeed. If they didn’t like Moore, if they DESPISED him, they should have voted for him anyway. A Democrat is a million times worse. Thank you to the Alabama Republicans who voted yesterday. To the rest, shame on you.

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    • BHliberty says:

      Completely agree … there were a lot of forces against us (the Trump supporters). Time to fight back!

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    • paulraven1 says:

      All good points. But if we don’t change the way we fight the war, we can’t expect different outcomes. We can point to why we lost as signs that this was an outlier, but it is not an outlier. It is the model for Leftist victories. Do we have a model for defeating the Left? I don’t see it. We scramble in response and defense and disunity to what they are doing to us. Putting up better or more “honorable” candidates is essentially meaningless in the face of this losing model.

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      • Luke of the D says:

        That is exactly correct. So what do we do Paul? We unify. We rally around the one flag that makes sense: President Trump. If we want to preserve the Republic, we must throw our full support behind the leader of the Republican party. Any other agenda is a losing agenda for certain.

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      • joninmd22 says:

        Agree. It’s time to take the gloves off.

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        • 4sure says:

          The uniparty pubs policy is that they get their candidate or we get a democrat. They win either way. It’s their way or the highway. Look at every primary and general in which we think we are going to get our candidate. It never happens. We may get our candidate, but we end up losing one way or another. The uniparty pubs win if they get a dem because they still get their agenda.

          It would not have mattered who the candidate was in Bama as long as it was NOT the swamp’s candidate, the candidate was not going to win. The swamp would have made sure of it. And that’s what is happening right now w/Trump. And that’s what is going to happen in every election going forward.

          The dems committed voter fraud in Bama. How do we win in the future? I don’t know, but I do know it aint gonna be by doing what we have been doing.

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    • southernblondesite says:

      Great summary Luke and thank you for putting it into perspective.

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    • And don’t forget “special place on hell” Ivanka Trump. Guess she is happy today.
      What a lib idiot!

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  13. BHliberty says:

    This was another win for the Democrats which should have never happened. Never! But it has due to the dirty tactics that were played out from the media, the democrats, the republicans, the never-trumpers, & hollywood elites! If supporters of the President want to see victory, we’re just going to have to fight back harder. I’m disgusted by it all but it’s true what they say that politics is a blood-sport and in my view, we just witnessed the bloodiest of the them all.

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  14. 4beagles says:

    Hope I never hear about Roy Moore again. His cousin Lester is a different story altogether, I’m all in for Less Moore

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  15. unconqueredone says:

    Moral of the story: The establishment swamp picks their own. There are trillions at stake.

    A vote against the incumbent is a vote against the Uniparty.

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    • waltherppk says:

      No.

      The moral of the story is when you elect a president to lead, then let him lead and follow his orders instead of thinking you are smarter than he is and doing instead what you think he should want because you know so much better in your own mind what needs to be done. How did that work out?

      Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.

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    • paulraven1 says:

      At the risk of repetition, I will say the moral of the story is learn how to fight the Left. Put aside the defects of your candidate, the uniparty, the “trillions at stake,” etc. Those are all excuses. Learn how to fight to win. Fight smart, fight dirty, fight ruthlessly. Or lose your country. We will never have an ideal candidate and the battles will only get more fierce and more viciously biased and slanderous.

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      • unconqueredone says:

        While I essentially agree with you that we need to learn how to fight the left, at some point you cannot become the evil you are fighting just to win. To suggest my comments are excuses rather than stating facts puts us at odds, rather than learning to fight together.

        Moore was not “my” candidate, and whether the allegations were true or not, I don’t know. What I do know is the new standard is not proof, but allegations.

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        • paulraven1 says:

          Yes, I understand. But we really need to put aside this hoary old axiom that you become the evil you are fighting because you employ ruthless expedient tactics which some would call equally “evil.” I have never bought this. We tortured Japanese and Germans in WWII and did not become like them. Because we are fundamentally not like them. We did what was necessary to win to preserve our values. As Orwell said, when you fight to survive, you will get dirty. We will get dirty. We will not become evil.

          And I didn’t mean to suggest your comments were excuses. In a larger sense, I think they become ways of avoiding the simple and harder issues of how to fight.

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  16. jbrickley says:

    So, guess that means the propaganda worked. It kept too many at home questioning the lies but also the far right leanings of Moore. Too many rely on the news media for their information. Too many are too busy to do the research for themselves. Too many don’t read at all. Too many think with emotion instead of logic.

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    • waltherppk says:

      Roy Moore was NEVER a likely to succeed follow on “act” for Trump and Alabama was dumb to ever gamble on Moore, hoping that far right morality “play” could ever work or was ever a good plan for winning. Trump is a centrist moderate, not a far right wing nut job.

      But Alabama was smarter than Trump and was going to show Trump what “really” was needed in the senate was a “religious” right WINGNUT who would just steamroll the opposition with the ten commandments under one arm, a gun in his hand and riding a horse to DC to show all those liberal heathens in DC how its done by a real scripture quoting Alabama cowboy / “spirit filled” preacher man / “politician” like some more
      Southern “annointed” variation of Ted Cruz.

      Oh but the most important thing is to vote for somebody who “shares my values 100%” ….never mind that he doesn’t have a chance of winning or the “big picture” consequences of playing checkers when the opposition is playing chess. This is just another replay of a very old story where it is all or nothing “right now” for impatient people a mile wide and an inch deep who won’t play the long game because they would rather lose entirely right now than settle for what they think is a less than perfect choice but a safer bet and move towards achieving most of their agenda later.

      All or nothing Alabama ? …..okay the result was predictable just like always

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      • Rainer says:

        Where are you from, New York or New Jersey? Your posts regarding Alabama drip with hostility and condescension.

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        • waltherppk says:

          Keep reading.

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          • Rainer says:

            I’ve read enough of your posts on this subject to support my conclusion. But even if you are from Alabama you obviously don’t identify with the majority of white voters in the state who did vote for Moore in spite of his faults and given the alternative. Morris Dees is also from Alabama, and I’m sure he also finds most white Alabamians to be stupid.

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            • waltherppk says:

              Moorebots did the same thing with Moore and Trump as Cruzbots did with Cruz and Trump…..like some kind of “rematch”

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            • waltherppk says:

              Sorry I just did not appreciate the real genius revealed by running Roy Moore, and it must be I’m just not white enough or Christian enough or something. Maybe in time I’ll know better, but nobody should hold their breath.

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      • TheLastDemocrat says:

        Predictable? The margin of victory was as close as could be.

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      • TexasDude says:

        Trump did not gamble on Moore. He only supported Moore because he was the Republican candidate.

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      • BeePee says:

        And they got nothing. MAGA is a POPULIST movement, not a conservative movement. Ted Cruz and Bannon are old line conservatives. Trump beat Cruz in the primaries in Alabama last year and Cruz thought he was going to take the Bible belt. Trump took it almost all. So Trump endorses Luther Strange, having already been there, done that last year. Populism is a vertical up versus down movement. The elites up top v. the grass roots at the bottom. Conservativism is a horizontal left versus right movement. Liberals on the left v. conservatives on the right. Reagan was a populist conservative. Trump is a conservative populist. We take the foundations laid by Reagan and build upon them. Not replace them. USA is a populist nation because of our history under British tyranny and the War Of Independence. The first words of the constitution, the supreme law of the land which came out of that war is ‘We the people’. Reagan came during an awakening. Trump is here during a crises. Trump would be wrong for the 80s. Reagan would be wrong for now. Bannon and Cruz date back to the culture wars if the 90s which followed on from the 80s. Now a crises rages on. If the republic should survive, this too shall pass. Just like the King Phillips Indian wars. And the afore mentioned War Of Independence. And the Civil War. And the great depression and WWII. However there is no guarantee the crises will end well just because it has in the past. Rome fell. If the republic should not survive, we are in uncharted territory for Americans.

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        • waltherppk says:

          That is a good analysis. For the uncompromising moral majority “types” who think they can do a frontal assault on the corrupt establishment with a “Christian / family values” sort of platform and that they simply must “vote their conscience” based on specific “wedge issues” as THE litmus test for “true conservative” candidates …..such people have a long proven record of LOSING ELECTIONS by running ZEALOTS who spend too much time preaching and are clueless about what are higher “mission critical priorities”. But they would prefer to LOSE ELECTIONS while sticking to their “principles” and voting their “conscience”.

          If a leader comes along who knows that a more systematic and incremental approach is required …..and some long range strategic thinking ….well fanatics and zealots lack the depth to understand and won’t get on board with what would move things more gradually in a better direction.
          Zealots do not know how to pick their fights and know when it is time they can swing things by adding their influence, but rather they think in terms of their “identity” having sufficient numbers to decide things in an open battle they will lose every time. Politics is complicated, too complicated for simple minded honest people to really look at issues from all aspects and formulate a course down the middle that can be supported by a majority and win an election. Matthew 10:16 definitely applies.
          Politics is a game of strategy and wits in a world where the righteous are outnumbered and have ZERO chance of a brute force victory by their numbers voting to decide any election where the arithmetic is going to decide and not the conscience of the voters.

          As Trump has so correctly observed….it is complicated business folks. Trump is a lot smarter than his doubters and critics have reckoned. Politically, Trump is sort of like
          the detective played by Peter Faulk in the old Columbo television series, where the impression of the detective being slow witted was like a baited trap for their own hubris to cause the criminals to hang themselves. Trump “gets it” and those who doubt that are just plain stupid.

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          • BeePee says:

            I agree. It’s not that we don’t rally behind a cause, it’s just that it’s not the ‘moral’ conservative causes of the past. This is where Steve Bannon and Ted Cruz are fighting the battles of the past. Like Ted running the Iowa caucuses last year like a traveling salvation show. Saying at his victory speech ‘we give God the glory’. For the benefit of, not God, but the voters in the upcoming Bible belt states in the South including, yes, Alabama. We rally behind the cause of this time and this hour which is populism and taking our lives back from the elite or the establishment or the swamp. Conservative causes will be there, but only as a secondary emphases. That’s the fight we pick and that’s the rallying cry that we unite the electorate behind. Not the old horizontal line issues but the vertical line issues. ‘Cause we have had decades of the old culture wars arguments and everybody has heard all the same old arguments and talking points which have been thrashed to death and has become tiresome and old and stale. But never stopped the elite from bleeding the country dry. The mood of the country has changed. The new litmus test is standing up to the establishment. That is now what’s mission critical. We are still uncompromising, but not on the Christian family values platform but on the draining the swamp platform. Like Trump said, ‘WE HAVE TO DRAIN THE SWAMP’. Moore didn’t light up the Alabama electorate because the concerns he addressed were not the primary concerns of the electorate any more. How can you be concerned about family moral values if you are side tracked worrying about whether you are going to have a country much longer, let alone a family. Can’t raise a family without a job. Can’t get a job without a country. And Moore didn’t convince anybody that he could make a difference and help save the republic. And that’s the worry amongst the folks right now. Not singing hymns. Not just right now. Save the republic and we can worry about the hymns later.

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            • BeePee says:

              We don’t have to move things more gradually. We just have to move them full blast ahead in the right direction. The folks want to drain the swamp ASAP. Like, let’s do it RIGHT NOW.

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              • BeePee says:

                Another example. The ‘right wing’ idealized free markets all the way out to ‘free global trade’ but it is that exact thing that ended up bleeding the country dry. China booms and the US develops a rust belt. The globalists take advantage of the ideology. The folks feel job insecurity and learns to DESPISE inflexible ideology. And Roy Moore came across as idealogical.

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  17. Bugsdaddy says:

    Headline for today:

    UNIPARTY WINS!!!

    Let’s step back figure out why and do something about it

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    • Wink says:

      Bugsdaddy, the answer is pretty simple. When the President backs a candidate because he knows he can get votes out of him, then the “know it alls” need to follow his lead. The “we know better than Trump” crowd may have caused damage that will take months to fix.

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      • waltherppk says:

        The neverending stream of “Trumpneedstas” are not helpful but are a PROFOUND hindrance to the MAGA mission. The Trumpneedstas may “mean well” ….but the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

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    • waltherppk says:

      No.

      Headline for today will be Van Jones saying the election of Doug Jones
      is Alabama witnessing a “blacklash” and Van Jones will be correct.

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  18. jbrickley says:

    Jones only has two years to screw things up before he’s replaced.

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  19. OK , send in the Varsity – Plan B – Session resigns as AG after couple more years and runs for Senator again against Jones. At 73 years old or so he is still a relative youngster in Senate terms. get rid of the amateurs.

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  20. Tonawanda says:

    CTH poster WrightorWrongAl consistently said three things about Moore: 1) he was a lunatic; 2) about half of the huge Christian conservative electorate in Alabama believed Moore was a lunatic and would not vote for him, period; and 3) Moore was not bothering to campaign.

    With respect to campaigning, Sundance wrote a post saying in effect (these are MY words), that Moore’s arrogance in taking his election for granted, combined with Democrat hyper-enthusiasm, could lead to a loss like the DemoKKKrat Massachusetts loss in 2009 (Scott Brown).

    With respect to lunacy, Moore’s own Christian conservative law professor described him as a lunatic, as an ego driven maniac who was irrational. I posted the article a couple of times here.

    Trump also endorsed Strange because, as Trump says TODAY in a tweet, he thought Moore was unelectable in a general election.

    As Sundance says up-thread, just let this go and work harder.

    This election was NOT about the sex charges, which may very well have cut down the winner’s margin of victory.

    WrightorWrongAl today says in a tweet (@WrightorWrongAl) that the people of Alabama did not vote for Moore because he is a “nutter.” That is what she predicted would happen, and she is an amazingly reliable poster here who lives in Alabama.

    The chief lesson for us is this (IMO):

    LISTEN TO TRUMP, TRUST TRUMP, FOLLOW TRUMP’S LEAD.

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    • Chewbarkah says:

      I am moderately surprised by the results, because I thought that many conservative Alabamians would be motivated to vote for Moore precisely because the outsiders were pushing Jones. But Moore had been recalled from the State Supreme Court — wasn’t it twice? — for his shenanigans and attempts to impose his idiosyncratic interpretations of theology and constitutionalism. As you cite Trump saying above, he wasn’t electable; which is a recurring problem with far right candidates.

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    • waltherppk says:

      Three quarters of my family is buried in Monroe County Alabama over the past 200 years and Sessions is my homie, and when I tell you Roy Moore is Right Wing Nut Job and so is Bannon ………

      PLEASE BELIEVE ME

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      • Wink says:

        Waltherppk, I believe you.

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        • waltherppk says:

          I love Alabama people and they are good decent people. But they got hoodwinked by an ambitious, self-righteous, gun totin, bible thumpin’, preachy know it all. All of that stuff was a problem even before the outraged woman brigade of “victim actors” were a cheap political hit job added by the feminazi victim pimp and outrage theater drama queen Gloria Allred.

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    • waltherppk says:

      Alabama “evangelicals” (whatever that is exactly) coming out for Roy Moore is EXACTLY like Utah Mormons supporting Romney ….”tribalism” may seem like a bright idea to a zealot but nobody in the middle politically moderate realm can ever explain it to them why it won’t work because they simply don’t care if who “shares their values” will or can win or not ….they view their “personal vote” as some “test of conscience” instead of a political business transaction that should mean something in the worldly scheme of things instead of being an affirmation of futility that means nothing and accomplishes nothing.

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    • Wink says:

      Listen to Trump, trust Trump, follow Trump’s lead! That’s the winning formula.

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      • joninmd22 says:

        I posted this over at BB earlier.

        “As a caller to Breitbart radio said this morning. If Republicans can lose in Alabama they can lose anywhere.

        Thanks go out to Steve Bannon and Breitbart for their continued obstruction of the Trump agenda and candidates he endorsed. Luthor Strange would be head and shoulders a better Senator than Jones will ever be. But Bannon had to go and cut our noses off to spite our faces

        Steve Bannon is responsible for yesterdays loss in his egotistical fight against the president. Granting that Moore barely campaigned and took the race as a shoe in.

        Bannon and Breitbart are not the movement.

        Donald Trump is the movement. Live It, Learn It, Love It.”

        Of course they’re calling me a RINO because the simpletons at BB can’t see the plain facts.

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    • Kaco says:

      WrightorWrongAl already stated here months ago he didn’t want to vote for Moore. So did another poster. They were worried about jobs and didn’t think Moore would support Alabama.

      However, apparently, to Alabama, the Democrat was the lesser of two evils. If they can’t see how much the Dems and their supporters are more lunatic, as they have shown themselves even more so after Pres Trump’s election, then we will continue to lose seats and therefore, lose MAGA, if there is no one in the legislature to vote for Pres Trump’s policies.

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      • Tonawanda says:

        I would have voted for Moore and I think he is a lunatic.

        I believe WrightorWrongAl DID vote for Moore in the general, despite her misgivings. She has said for two months now that Moore was not campaigning, and Sundance himself wrote a post on how Moore appeared to be arrogantly assuming he would win.

        And part of the reason Moore did not campaign is that he is a lunatic. Why should voters put in an effort Moore would not make for himself?

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  21. Blacksmith8 says:

    Funny, we got lectured on here repeatedly for a month how AL was truly red and would never vote for an abortion pedaling dhimm.
    Funny, apparently hope changed.

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  22. This from the 4chans…and Qanon is on 8chan hinting at a surprise for (G)eorge (S)oros.

    https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/152927770

    tomorrow night.

    Doug Jones will be declared the winner of the U.S. Senate Special election. He will have more votes than Roy Moore. The multiple fraudulent voting techniques employed to achieve this result are being allowed to occur. They are being documented. The subsequent “investigation” will reveal the entire Democrat Machine. This was put into play long ago.

    Y’all are soon to find out the true reason Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III was installed as the U.S. Attorney General.

    Who are the Marion three?

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  23. railer says:

    Moore was a flawed candidate. You risk losing when you nominate a flawed candidate. All of them are flawed, but I highly recommend not nominating 70 year olds with spotty political records. The AL Republicans should have handled this long before now, so Moore was out of the picture.

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  24. Mayo says:

    Here’s the good news:
    (1.) Neither party in Washington can now hide from any deviant sexual proclivities. Let’s have the names of those guys WE PAID for to shut up their accusers and bury their sins.
    (2.) Franken can pack up and leave today. He’s finished.
    (3.) If the accusers were lying, Roy Moore is now free to sue the WaPo and anyone else who smeared him.

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    • waltherppk says:

      As for any lawsuits by Roy Moore, exhibit one in any court will be the Hannity interview.

      I said it was over for Moore then and there and I was right. People can argue and they will argue what they simply refuse to see. It was over for Moore then and there. And there is no “walking it back”. It was over, finished, done…….100%…. right then and there.

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      • waltherppk says:

        That Hannity interview with Roy Moore was like the scenario on 9-11-2016 when Hillary got tossed unconscious into the scoobee van and lost her shoe. Many people said she lost the election right then and there. Plenty of people argued about that too.

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  25. Nunya Bidness says:

    Do not discount the possibility of GOP working to increase black dem turnout vs Moore. In MS two years ago the GOP actively turned out black dems to vote for geriatric Thad Cochran in a runoff primary against insurgent Chris McDaniel.

    McConnell did not want Moore in the Senate to vote with Trump. He actually has more influence on Trump with a close majority.

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  26. ray76 says:

    Moore representative also indicated military ballots had still not been counted.
    “Realize that when it’s this close, it’s not over,” Moore said. “And we still got to go by the rules by this recount provision and the secretary of state has explained it to us and we’re expecting that the press will go up there and talk to them to find out what the situation is.”

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  27. The final vote tally is well within the democrat margin of cheating. Knock knock DOJ…anybody home?

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  28. kokopuf says:

    Well I am here to eat a little crow, I predicted a big win for Moore and I was wrong. Area of North Alabama where I live did go strongly for Moore, but Madison County (HSV) went for Jones as did the other large metro areas. I did say early on that Roy Moore was a flawed candidate and voters should get behind either Strange or Brooks in the primary. Moore also was outworked by Jones. Moore seemed to be following the Hilary campaign model – take lots of days off, ignore areas, etc. I am somewhat suspicious of the high Dem vote turnout but the Repubs should have also turned out in big numbers.

    All that said, the supremely stupid Gov. Kay Ivie is the true villain of this piece. This special election was NOT REQUIRED. We had a good Repub appointed to serve out Sessions term. Gov Ivie decided to spend over $15M of tax dollars for a special election and all we got in return was a Dem Senator. D**N it hurts to say that!

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  29. cheryl says:

    I only have one good thing to say about Moore’s loss – If Moore had won, Steve Bannon would think he is head of the Republican party and we were spared that, at least.

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    • waltherppk says:

      Had it happened that somehow Moore had won, he would have become a walking advertisement for a Democrat “get out the vote campaign” (a walking example of what the Democrats would be provoked to organize and be motivated to vote against to stop).

      Moore would have been an image problem for all the other more centrist Republicans generally who would not want that association with all the “far right” baggage and scandal that Moore brings.

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  30. USMCLt says:

    I am trying to take the long view on this, as is the President. Moore taking a seat in the Senate would have created unnecessary distractions, as the Uniparty and the media would have pulled out all the stops to get him impeached on ethics violations. Soooo, let us shift our attention to other battles. And keep our powder dry.

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  31. TheLastDemocrat says:

    Was Roy Moore a lousy candidate? In 2012, I was saying to my wife that a strong candidate, rather than a product, could take either party by storm by declaring principles, values, and an agenda, rather than from leading-form-behind – polling what the average guy wants to hear, and following that.

    A candidate like this has to be “known,” or has to get himself or herself credibility really quickly and firmly – not like Fiorina where she declares she knows business, then people come out and say how she jacked up HP, and the average guy has no idea what is true or how to vet the two views.

    Trump came along, and totally fulfilled that. Sanders almost did – he has done a fine job of being outside the two-party system but still being within it.

    Perot was like this – not many knew him, but he had a genuine established business, and was a genuine person.

    Moore was yet another example: principles, values, and maybe an agenda somewhere. And this worked to get enthusiasm and support. The only down side is that Moore has the noted faults.

    So, the game is still wide open to genuine principled leaders, although what we almost always get is a product. Hiraly was totally a product – vapid, no substance, just words formed in focus groups. And on down the list. All generic, with attempts to frame candidates as “genuine.”

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  32. Scarlet says:

    I am having a very very bad day. I am sickened by the democrats response, the Anderson Cooper tweet calling Trump a pathetic loser, the USA Today hit job calling Trump unfit to clean toilets in theobama library, the disrespect for our beloved President, the attacks, the lies, the cheating and the underhandedness. I don’t know how Trump keeps his spirits up. I don’t. I’m in awe of him and his family. I thank God for them every day. I hope we all see clear of these attacks and can clean the swamp.

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    • Kaco says:

      Do you know what I am afraid of? That people might not necessarily believe all the crap thrown against our President by our formerly “main stream media” but they’ll get so sick of it that they will vote for someone else just to have peace within our country again.

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      • Scarlet says:

        That’s horrifying too. The onslaught is tremendous and exhausting. Not many people outside of treepers are tough and committed. It’s a theory. A scary one.

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      • louche9 says:

        “Peace” is a funny word for polar bear hunting and the knock out game – both of which have taken a decided decline since Trump became POTUS. The endless screeching from the MSM / Left is a result of fear of the tide turning against them, while still being in control of the megaphone. Again – a relative handful of entities own almost every newspaper, TV and radio station and news outlet in the country, and not one of them wants PT in power. If we are willing to give up this miracle we’ve been blessed with because we’re tired of meanies saying mean things, then we didn’t deserve it in the first place. Toughen up.

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        • Kaco says:

          I am not giving up, he’s our only hope and ally! Tell it to the rest of the country, tell it to the Alabamians who stayed home or voted for the Dem! They might not have wanted to be put through an ethics investigation with Moore.

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      • This.

        This is what i see occurring among many who voted Trump. They are sick of it and don’t care enough because they just want to be told what is right/wrong or what to believe.

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        • Kaco says:

          OMG, Zach, this was speculation and assumption on my part, but you are actually seeing it? This is what I’m afraid of, they are tired of our President being ridiculed daily and want things to be “normal” again with President everyone can respect.

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        • Kaco says:

          You know, we have kept saying that the people might rebel against the MSM but the constant attacks might take a toll in this direction, perhaps that was their plan after all. “Are’t you tired of having a president who divides this country?” When it’s all their fault for doing it. But the masses might not see it the way we do and are not as informed.

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          • BeePee says:

            Wait till Truponomics kicks in. Even Bill Clinton survived an impeachment when the economy was roaring in the 90s, and that was Newt Gingrich’s economy after the Contract With America. They’ll take the Presidential ridicule as a trade off. Jobs will change everything.

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  33. Roy Moore gave it away, he didn’t campaign after the primary, he didn’t go to the minority centers, he was pitiful in interviews; the few he took, and then he sits down with 12y/o girl days before the election. Arrogance.

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    • 6x47 says:

      Roy Moore pulled a Hillary Clinton: He assumed victory was assured once he had won the GOP primary, and then he didn’t work hard and just phoned it in for the general election.

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  34. Blase Bauer says:

    Appears Fox had it right,just not by 10….lol

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  35. 6x47 says:

    The problem is Mitch McConnell and the GOPe spent millions to defeat Republicans in deep red Alabama, and succeeded.

    The die was cast when Mitch McConnell spent $30 million to trash Rep. Mo Brooks in the 3-way Brooks/Moore/Strange primary. He infuriated the GOP “Deplorable” base and the blowback burned Luther Strange.

    Imagine if McConnell had not gone negative. The runoff might still have been Strange vs. Moore but the GOP base wouldn’t have been soured and Strange might have prevailed and gone on to win the general.

    Imagine if McConnell and the Bushie GOPe hadn’t planted the “teenage girls” story in the WaPo.

    Imagine the GOPe would simply quit going negative and then support the candidate the voters choose.

    Imagine if your grandmother had wheels, she’d be a wagon.

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  36. If we the people had a real Congress or the elected people of AL, would have looked into the claims of these women to see if there was anything to them. Then issued a statement of their findings. Let the chips fall where they may. Instead we got out of control media backed up with the elected people in Congress and elsewhere calling for Moore’s head as if he was guilty. These are the type of people now in charge. Jones will fit right in as he could also have manned up and said hey let us find out if there are any crimes and facts to back up what these women are saying Judge Moore. One thing for sure Judge Moore got a lynching not justice.

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    • saying “about” Judge Moore. edit

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    • FH says:

      This presumes Roy Moore lost because of the hoax accusers.

      Roy Moore did not lose because of the hoax accusers, though he did himself no favors in coming off as creepy and aloof in his, “defense” against the allegations – to the extent he actually defended himself. Lord Trump gave every politician a blueprint in how to deal with fraudulent allegations of sexual misconduct; Roy Moore didn’t follow it. You can draw your own conclusions as to why he didn’t follow it.

      Roy Moore lost because he was a marginal, highly unlikable candidate that did nothing to appeal to the Republican electorate of his state as evidenced by the estimates showing turnout for him was about 30% of what it was for Lord Trump.

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      • Judge Moore got more votes than Strange. The RINO helped to defeat Judge Moore because they wanted Strange. He said he didn’t do it what proof was there that he did anything wrong?

        They got Jones so stand by to see how he works out. I read he will kill babies before their birth, likes a bigger swamp, less choices, less private property and rights. Yet Moore is the bad choice. /smh

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      • Judge Moore lost because they counted votes and reported Jones had more votes that Judge Moore did. Anything else is just an opinion.

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  37. POP says:

    Ann’s right.
    http://www.anncoulter.com

    But she can’t be because that means PTrump screwed up (by not supporting Brooks), and we know that can’t happen.

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    • POP says:

      And ominously….”Apparently, Trump’s voters won’t blindly follow him, whatever he does. I wonder if this is relevant information for the midterms … “

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  38. Dogstar_K9 says:

    How many people are just tired of holding their nose and voting the “necessary way”?

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  39. This election was stolen by the democrats…period! Massive voter fraud will be uncovered. Whether or not we see an investigation is questionable. Everyone seems to want to move on and accept the unrealistic voter surges and turnout percentages. Moore is right not to accept the outcome. It’s a total crock and everyone knows it. This will all play out and, once again, we will see just how destructive the establishment can be when it comes to trashing our democratic republic for their own personal gain.

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    • POP says:

      Nah, Moore must agree….. it had to be god’s will.
      And the fact that Sessions got elected with a huge majority on nearly a single issue, immigration.

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  40. freq says:

    has anyone seen bannon’s ass?… oh wait – it was just handed to him… on a silver platter

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  41. myshariamoor says:

    TAKE HEART, WOLVERINES!!

    LOTS of blatant ELECTION FRAUD last night (& back on Mon. …in COURT!) & Moore is uncovering it, now!

    Go to BlackBoxVoting.org to find out REAL info on election fraud in the USA (incl. AL)!
    The always-excellent Bev Harris uncovers EVERYTHING – see the video of the NH SoS leaving ballot boxes in UNLOCKED ROOMS at NH county courthouses during their 2016 primary election!

    COLORADO & NEW HAMPSHIRE were ’16 TRUMP wins, save for the FRAUD there!

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  42. Tenrten says:

    BUILD THE WALL!!!!! Country saved

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  43. ditzee58 says:

    From very fake news, a video of people stating they voted illegally. No surprise but this does make my blood boil anyway.
    https://streamable.com/qid1q

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