Mandalay Bay Hotel Now Begins Refuting FBI Investigation…

…”We are now confident that the time stated in this report is not accurate.”…

It just seems ridiculous the basic facts, the essential sequence of events, cannot be agreed upon almost two weeks after the Mandalay Bay Massacre took place.   Following up on yesterday’s news, now Mandalay Bay Hotels is now refuting the claims of the FBI.

According to the latest shift in the sequence of events, the Mandalay Bay is stating the FBI have the revised timeline wrong.  Mandalay claims shooter Stephen Craig Paddock began firing into the crowd below immediately following Paddock’s shooting of their security guard Jose’ Campos.   [*Note* the previously announced exclusive interview by Sean Hannity with Campos did not happen].

LAS VEGAS – Mandalay Bay hotel officials said Thursday the Las Vegas gunman wounded a security guard in a hotel hallway within 40 seconds of firing into the crowd at a music festival, disputing a police timeline that put six minutes from the time the guard was shot and when Stephen Paddock committed the worst mass shooting in U.S. history.

In the most recent chronology given by investigators on Monday, police said Paddock sprayed 200 rounds into the hallway on the 32nd floor Oct. 1, wounding an unarmed security guard in the leg, six minutes before he unleashed his barrage of bullets on the festival crowd. He killed 58 people and injured nearly 500 before taking his own life.

The 64-year-old high-stakes gambler and real estate investor began his 10-minute attack on the crowd at 10:05 p.m., firing more than 1,000 rounds from his bashed-out windows, police said. Police didn’t arrive on the 32nd floor until 10:17 p.m., two minutes after he had stopped shooting.

In a statement Thursday, MGM Resorts International, which owns the Mandalay Bay, said the reported time of the hallway shooting, which Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said happened at 9:59 p.m., came from a report that was manually created after the massacre.

“We are now confident that the time stated in this report is not accurate,” the statement said.

Hotel officials believe Paddock began shooting into the concert crowd “at the same time as, or within 40 seconds after” the wounded guard, Jesus Campos, used his radio to call for help, the statement said. A maintenance worker, Stephen Schuck, also called for help on his radio, asking a dispatcher to call the police because someone was shooting a rifle on the hotel’s 32nd floor.

Police declined to comment on MGM’s statement.

[…] The hotel says Las Vegas police officers and armed hotel guards immediately responded to the shooting and the company is continuing to cooperate with police.  (read more)

I wonder who stopped or blocked the interview?

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839 Responses to Mandalay Bay Hotel Now Begins Refuting FBI Investigation…

  1. keebler AC ovfefe says:

    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1DXGyOWAQQVxM

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    • keebler AC ovfefe says:

      Loomer does confirm that the red corvette belongs to Campos.

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    • mike says:

      Sounds like Campos has now become inconvenient, disposable and accident prone.

      Stinks to high heavens.

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      • filia.aurea says:

        A youtuber, Scott Binsack, has screen shots of the Mandalay Bay employee application. Campos’ name was inserted into M.B.’s employee records as a “Security Guard” – by the CEO Murren. The record consists of only his name and position. There is no photograph of him, address, telephone number, resume or licensing information. A very unusual activity, and totally inadequate record. Something stinks.

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    • georgiafl says:

      Woman came to the door when Laura L. knocked and said she was told not to talk to any one.

      Campos residence Security Guard wears shirt with On Scene Security logo – but – that company’s license expired in January. Has National CC badge/shield on belt.

      Campos license tag on red Corvette expired in 2006?

      Unmarked gray Toyota Corolla NO tag.

      Something smells.

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      • farmhand1927 says:

        From Clash Daily: http://www.clashdaily.com

        “Tim McVeigh, Jihadists + the Las Vegas Shooter–Is There a Connection?”

        https://clashdaily.com/2017/10/tim-mcveigh-jihadists-las-vegas-shooter-connection/

        Something does smell…

        Within a few short hours of the shootings, FBI declares no terrorist ties, before having even interviewed the girlfriend. (BTW, where is she now? Her past is, shall we say, colorful. She left the country right before the shootings and reportedly rec’d considerable amount of cash from Paddock. No longer a ‘person of interest’? Seems her sisters in Australia have gone silent, too. Are we expected to believe that Paddock and Girlfriend cohabitated and he was able to hide the amount of hatred, wrath and insanity necessary to become a psychopathic assassin and she didn’t have a clue other than he had nightmares once in awhile?)

        FBI guy has stood behind sheriff as sheriff has delivered visibly uncomfortable remarks at pressers. FBI guy appears to almost be glaring at sheriff each time.

        Thanks in large part to James Comey, we now know the FBI is not above cooking up stories they want the public to believe while the truth is hidden behind the drapes in hopes it won’t be seen.

        A young man from my community was murdered at this concert. His grief-stricken family and friends held his funeral yesterday. Local media attended and the raw emotion and tragedy was streamed into living rooms during the evening news. The victims that are gone, the victims still in recovery and the family victims that have had their hearts shattered deserve a lot better than this. When all else fails, tell the truth. It’s the very least that should be done.

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        • georgiafl says:

          AMEN!!! Victims and America deserve the TRUTH!!!

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        • RickA says:

          Wonder if the family of farmhand1927’s referenced murdered victim is privy to the autopsy results? And if not yet, will they ever be released without the family needing to hire a lawyer and file lawsuits?

          I believe the true story about what happened that tragic night in Las Vegas will only be told by the massive amount of forensic evidence assuredly collected. If some of the evidence is withheld, tampered with, contaminated, lost or ignored, the families and public will be debating conspiracy theories forever…..

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      • eagledriver50 says:

        Yeah…can you say “SETUP”…Hurriedly put into place…too bad Laura L. couldn’t get the vin #s!!!

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    • Toby Flenderson says:

      Is Campos the second shooter?????

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  2. quagmire86 says:

    Maybe it’s been covered before but I have a problem with the photo of the suicide by Paddock. If a person were shoot themselves the are at a moment of resolve yet manic. He would be standing as he fired the final shot. My assumption. How would the rifle, with the bipod come to rest over his left leg? (Standing position would be un-natural. Was he killed by someone else and had the rifle placed over him afterwards? Or, was he sitting or lying down as he killed himself? Plus, both arms extending down his sides is suspect. (Merely a cop’s observation).

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    • Molly Pitcher says:

      Quagmire..lol, I’m so far spooled out not only do I agree with you, I’m not even sure if I think it’s him. The dead man’s neck looks younger, the whiskers look darker if you pull up images of him in recent years…I dunno.
      But i’m a moonbat at times so…there’s that !

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    • georgiafl says:

      Maybe someone laid him out straight with his weapon over his legs like a Jihadi Warrior.
      Pose has a ceremonial look to it.

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      • corimari2013 says:

        georgiafl, thank you for your keen observation.
        I believe that there were two shooters on the 32nd floor. How could Paddock have kept the all but constant gunfire going for many minutes as he darted between two rooms, changed guns, and also monitored the surveillance cameras he had set up in the hallway?
        I think that the 2nd shooter received notice from an accomplice that police had entered the hotel, and so he killed Paddock, then exited down the stairway that was directly next to the rooms.
        As you point out, he even took a moment to ‘leave dead Warrior Paddock lying there in honor’.

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        • eagledriver50 says:

          HEY EVERYONE…WHAT IF THERE WERE 4, YES FOUR SHOOTERS ON THAT FLOOR? I have pointed out before…DOES THE INDIVIDUAL LYING ON THE FLOOR WITH A BULLET WOUND HAVE GUN RESIDUE AROUND THE AREA IN CONCLUSIVELY? There has been NO Forensic Evidence presented…

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    • old45model says:

      As do I, quagmire86.
      My apologies if this reply appears and a near duplicate also appears – Word Press is giving me a bit of a hard time when I try to post.

      There appears to be no nerve or muscle flexing after the head shot – which I see as rather unusual – unless the round also severed the spinal column at the base of the skull. Otherwise there should be involuntary movement in the extremities. Did he die just like in the movies?
      Next problem I have: Is everyone simply ‘assuming’ Paddock shot Campos, or has Campos named Paddock as the person who shot him or has he identified him in some other way?
      Whilst there is a body, identified as Paddock, I haven’t seen any eyewitness testimony to date that actually identifies the actual person(s) pulling the trigger(s).
      Next – I see approx. 14 bullet holes in the French door & no doubt there are others in the unseen section – but why are there no observable bullet holes in the other French door?
      If Campos was on the wrong side of 200 rounds, I would expect to see holes in that second door, as well. And why do the holes appear (to me, at least) to be at waist height and heading downward?
      “Full” auto and the rifle should be heading upward and to the right (if the rifle is ‘right handed’ – I’ve never used a full auto ‘left handed’ rifle, only bolt action) – and I am assuming the bump stock acts in a similar fashion. Unless controlled by an experienced person and usually in short bursts to get the barrel back to pointing at the ‘target’, of course (or am I wrong in this observation? 7.62 and 9 mm exhibit that trait).
      Next – I’m not seeing enough ply wood on the carpet outside the French doors to account for 200 rounds. Perhaps somewhere between 20 and 40 rounds, maybe?

      If any or all of these observations have previously been addressed and I have failed to see them, I apologise – and blame tired old eyes and a plodding brain.

      One more wild, outrageous thought – what if Campos has ‘disappeared’ because he has identified the person who shot him and it isn’t/wasn’t Paddock?

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      • corimari2013 says:

        Yesss–Campos saw two shooters.
        Or is Campos part of the ‘shooting team’? Why wasn’t he a registered guard in Nevada?
        “It’s being reported that the security guard made famous in the Las Vegas shooter story is not even registered as a guard with the State of Nevada. Is he even a guard? Why was he there?
        Every security guard in the state of Nevada has to register as an armed or unarmed guard with the state’s Private Investigator’s Licensing Board (PILB). This entity’s records are publicly searchable at: nevadapilb.glsuite.us.
        There’s no Jesus Campos licensed with the PILB.
        http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/las-vegas-security-guard-shot-by-vegas-killer-is-not-registered-as-a-security-guard-in-the-state-of-nevada/
        Why would the hotel hire an unlicensed security guard? How long was he in their employ?

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      • georgiafl says:

        The old ‘quick – grab a body from the morgue’ (that looks like Paddock) trick???

        Probably have a bunch of unclaimed bodies at the LV morgue or U of Nevada Medical School (or the See Eye Aye ‘collection’) that would do the job.

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      • eagledriver50 says:

        See my post directly above this!!! Great minds think alike. I copied the picture down and there are NO 200 holes in either door…there are at most as I can tell about 10 HOLES BUT NONE IN THE OTHER!!! AND THE HOLES LOOK LIKE THEY ARE GOING INWORD
        PICTURE OF ENTRANCE/EXIT FROM DIFFERENT CALIBERS:
        https://duckduckgo.com/?q=HOLES+MADE+FROM+223+ROUND&t=ffab&atb=v85-3&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ammoland.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F01%2FAmmo-Entry-and-Exit-Holes.jpg%3F76f9e5

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        • Bugsdaddy says:

          To your point about muzzle rise, even with a semi-automatic rifle you do experience a good amount of rise as you fire continually. Even a trained rifleman will experience this. That is why we(at least I was in the Marines) are trained to fire in two and three round bursts even on semi-auto.

          In addition to your observation……they are stating that over 1000 rounds were fired in a 10 minute time span. The pics i have seen show 30 round and 20 round magazines. I’m not saying it is impossible to do 3 magazine changes in a minute, but factor in that firing supposedly came from two different windows……..now you have transit time between locations as well as magazine changes. I don’t know the rate of fire with a “bump” stock, but I can’t imagine it is better than 200 rounds per minute.
          So factoring all these things together, a single shooter would have movement time……change his mags about 30-35 times……….and lets even bump the rate of fire up to 300RPM. That is a feat in itself to fire over 1000 rounds in 10 minutes by yourself.

          Finally, have you ever seen 1000 shell casings? It would be quite a mess and from the pics I have seen I am only seeing a few dozen scattered about.

          I don’t trust the reports coming out of the FBI, local cops, or especially the head up their butt media. Something else was there or going on………it just is not adding up for me.

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          • eagledriver50 says:

            Now you are getting my drift. 1000 rounds is like having a 1/2 of 2000 round can of 7.62×51 on stand-by in the helo…Nope…Anything that these people say, without the forensic evidence being present is a no-go. Question: Have you seen the Sheriff or the FBI guys bring out charts/forensics type stuff? Just askin’…

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          • Risasi says:

            :ahem: http://www.surefire.com/mag5-100.html

            Those are clearly 100 round mags.
            I just want to know;
            – how many empty cases they found in the room, in the hallway area, or that fell out of the window(s).
            – Were these neatly stacked magazines empty or full.

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        • quagmire86 says:

          As far as the bullet holes in one door but not the other could be explained this way; When Campos allegedly heard the drilling noise and saw, as he claimed, the door was ajar. When Campos entered the room he pushed the left door open to a 90 degree angle or so. Doing so, and surprising Paddock where Paddock either pulled a sidearm from a holster or picked up a nearby rifle and began shooting at Campos. Campos then ran to exit the door and Paddock hit the door with gunfire as Campos ran behind the door to escape to the hallway. Paddock would have to leave his prior drilling position to stand in the doorway to shoot at the fleeing Campos down the hallway.

          Now, it is all speculation on my part. But I am not sold on the position of Paddock’s body. Too neat and tidy (position-wise). Let’s say Paddock was standing when he shot himself. He would have had to be standing with his left shin touching the chair and his toes of his right foot touching the end table where the “Note” was left. Even if he did that and fell backwards after shooting himself, he is still too close to the chair and table. And, how did the rifle, with the bipod, land upright over his left leg? Was he holding the rifle when he shot himself? I highly doubt it. Furthermore, with the arms tucked neatly at his side is suspect. If one were to collapse from a standing position, their arms would be more away from the body even almost perpendicular, right? Or are we to believe Paddock had the rifle with bipod over his left leg, lie down on his back and then shoot himself. It just seems to unnatural to me.

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          • old45model says:

            Actually, Quaggy, I might be letting my elderly eyes deceive me somewhat.
            I grabbed that doorway photo and blew it up – do I see bullet holes along the door jamb area of the ‘undamaged’ door, possibly near hinges (or possibly not)?
            Some up near the top tape, some more near the diagonal tape near the second horizontal tape – and not sure if I can see more, lower down.

            Also wonder why the door light to the left in the photo is mangled – would that be from explosive used to remove the door (if indeed that were the case – I don’t see such damage on the removed door)? I would presume that the door jamb would preclude that from happening, though.

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        • Poundsand says:

          I don’t think the official report indicates 200 rounds went down the hallway and through the door and probably closer to 200 rounds fired towards Campos, or two 100 round magazines.
          Those are definitely holes coming out through the door. You can tell by the way the splintered wood is always larger than the hole itself.
          The size of the hole depends on the type of ammunition used. I see no problems here.
          As far as the pattern, it would depend on how far you were from the door when you fired. The closer you are, the tighter the group will be.

          If you look close at the photo of the door, there are two pink arrows indicating where two rounds damaged the edge of the door on the right.

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    • Sunshine says:

      IMO: He would have removed at least one glove before shooting himself with a handgun.
      Body position just too perfect on the ground.
      Why change the name of the room registration on the 28th? Could it be to bring it up more suitcases?

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  3. Patriot 1 says:

    One thing is for sure. This has all the markings of hiding something bigger and as usual the FBI can’t find an Eskimo in Alaska.

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  4. BT in SC says:

    I dunno… and I may be – I probably am – way off base, here, but…

    Every time I see “MB” [shorthand being used for Mandalay Bay], I immediately think “muslime brotherhood.” There is just something so “off” about him – Jesus / Jose Campos, I can’t help but associate him with MY immediate “MB” reference. The picture of him [that has the sign “Thank you for Everyone’s Support”] – the purple shirt, collar tightly buttoned, the short semi-partial beard – well groomed, neatly trimmed. The almost shaved head – very short hair. And, lastly, the glasses. Fake? [Remember those ridiculous plastic black spectacles with the big nose – that smelled funny – and the connected mustache? They were a joke / gag disguise. I can picture Jose Campos wearing fake glasses with a fake nose.]

    Yeah, so maybe I am totally off with my thinking “MB” and immediately associating it with “muslime brotherhood,” but it so aptly fits.

    Wonder when / where he will turn up. If he wasn’t a registered security guard… What name is on his passport? What color is his passport – navy blue, dark green, grass green, burgundy, red? Does his passport photo show him wearing those big glasses? If he is “MB,” how difficult would it be for him to just slip through the cracks and disappear to oh, say, Pakistan via Qatar via Portugal.

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    • I keep seeing Campos as “capo” as in a mafia capo’s guy.

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    • Some Old Guy says:

      If Campos intentionally or unintentionally facilitated the shooter(s) in any way, the focus on MB’s (sorry BT 😉 ) screening, training, etc., of Campos will likely become at least one critical focus into their potential liability. If the sketchy information on him available now is in fact the record at trial, this won’t look good for MB. A reasonable case can be made that they didn’t take reasonable steps to vet and/or train Campos. If the records have been subsequently altered or deleted by MB and it can be shown or clearly inferred (i.e., records for all other similarly situated “security” employees are in order and up to date, etc.), that will raise a different problem for MB and may royally “piss off” the judge something that can negatively impact all of their case.

      This has the potential to become the civil version of the OJ trial.

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    • In Az says:

      When I saw a photo of the security guard Campos, my first thought was he is a Moslem. Campos was not listed as an employee of Mandalay Bay at time of shooting.
      The host of the radio show I listened to on Tuesday evening said that Campos is very suspicious, and probably involved.

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  5. Vivid Blue says:

    Big question for MB/MGM based on their latest timeline:

    If Campos was sent to 32nd floor & reported to MB about Paddock shooting in the hallway- why did MB not warn Shuck, who had been sent to same floor that there was a shooter & to be on the lookout, be careful or even check on Campos?

    Instead the MB (which Campos had warned according to their latest statement), allow an unarmed maintenance worker to go to that same floor that another worker had been shot on. If you were a pizza delivery store & a driver just phoned you to say Main street had a shooter, and you look at your data base & see a second driver is headed to the area, you would warn them. MB didn’t warn Shuck, even though by their own admission, they knew shooting was going on.

    Negligence? Incompetence? Something else? Something fishy went down that night in MB. Someone(s) dropped the ball. If MB didn’t warn their own workers sent to the floor of a reported shooting, you really think they warned the police before people at the concert? Where are the 911 tapes for MB phoning in the attack? I bet you will see MB reported AFTER the first calls from the concert. 911 calls are timestamped. There is no reason MB shouldn’t have called 911, dialing a sheriff takes longer & 911 is for emergencies, which a shooting in a hotel is.

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    • MM says:

      At this time everything coming from Mandalay Bay is suspect.
      I would not believe a thing they say or provide as evidence.
      They have the most to lose so they can’t be believed and have proven themselves in their own words to be liars.
      Mandalay Bay is the reason there’s so much confusion going on with LVMD.
      Tune them out 100%

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  6. MVW says:

    Campos original story is key to lone Paddock did it, plus the original timeline. Since then Campos has gone from believable, shot in the leg hero, to ‘Who is he?’ and ‘Where has he vanished to?’

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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      Just when I thought this thing couldn’t get any sketchier – KABOOM – 100X.

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      • wolfmoon1776 says:

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        • MM says:

          I must be tired Wolf I thought you said RED CARTEL. I was thinking does he mean commies?(red)
          LOL

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          • wolfmoon1776 says:

            I will admit it. I’m being cute. I left out a space. 😉

            But I really do think that the shooters could be CARTEL operatives – particularly the second shooter, and maybe even the “Y’all gonna die” couple, who WERE described as Hispanic.

            I mean, who kills people like that? We know one group that would do it for a nice sum of cash. Cartels and gangs.

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            • filia.aurea says:

              Para-military operation.

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              • wolfmoon1776 says:

                1000% agreed. And all we have to do is pin it on the RIGHT paramilitary or ALLIED paramilitaries.

                This is part of why LV is knuckling under to the feds. They are scared. They are up against some BAD STUFF here – and people who have allowed BAD STUFF to creep into the US at all levels.

                Secretly, this is working for THE WALL. People who are not 100% mind-fracked with the left’s definition of “diversity” know that we need to get a handle on some VERY BAD STUFF getting into the US and lowering our standards to Mexican Murder Morality.

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                • Sunshine says:

                  LOS ZETAS: ”By 2003, Los Zetas had expanded to include roughly 300 paramilitary men with sophisticated weapons and advanced military training.”

                  http://www.businessinsider.com/how-34-commandos-created-mexicos-most-brutal-drug-cartel-2015-3?op=1

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                • wolfmoon1776 says:

                  Yup. I hear of stuff they’ve done, and it’s every bit as trained as our people. That’s why when Gio Rios reported that dark-skinned special-military-looking guy with the case, but no uniform of any kind, the guy went right into “the usual suspects”.

                  Still, it bothered me. One of OURS murdering country fans? Just seems impossible.

                  But the “cartel” idea just went BINGO – WAY better than one of our people.

                  Cartellies? It would be FUN for them.

                  And there is no way Vegas wants cartel/gang murders to be true. No way.
                  They HAVE to shut it down.

                  It’s all making sense now, sadly. Truth is gonna get JFKed on this one, I’m afraid, unless we do something.

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                • Sunshine says:

                  Question: Why would Paddock change the room registration name to Marilou on Sept 28?
                  The only explanation I can find for this is to evade suspicion re more suitcases brought up to the room.

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                • wolfmoon1776 says:

                  Agreed. It’s an excuse to “bring up her tons of luggage”.

                  So it seems to me that he got a GO-AHEAD of some kind during September 25-27, and then changed his plans to extend his stay, so something would “go forward” after September 28.

                  Notice – the feds didn’t want us to focus on that time when the PLANNING happened, whatever was planned for.

                  My guess? I’ve got a GREAT new theory. It’s a modification of my old one. It’s PURE Obama bait. Only a paranoid or a worshiper of Suspicious Cat will NOT fall for it.

                  “Bring all your guns to your room and I’ll look at them, pick out what I want, and pay you big money so the sale stays off paper.”

                  Note that this is PERFECTLY LEGAL when the buyer is QUALIFIED to own a gun. But the EXCUSE allows almost unlimited money to be offered.

                  The buyer could have been FULLY qualified to buy guns, but argues that he doesn’t want a record. Some people are just paranoid about gun registration like that. They want something that the feds can NEVER confiscate. Actually, I kinda get it.

                  So let’s say it’s a “friend” that he makes at the casino (cough, cough), and the “friend” offers him BIG money to sell him some guns off-paper. The friend could even have PROOF that he’s qualified to own a gun, like a badge or a license. So it’s totally legal to sell to him.

                  And the guy is offering BIG MONEY.

                  Bring the guns – if you’re a CHUMP who needs more money. Because YOU let the money get past your sketchy whiskers.

                  Gotta admit – it works.

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        • georgiafl says:

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          • covfefe999 says:

            Lombardo was talking about Campos during the question prior to 12:10 so I’m not too concerned about his error. However, I found this interesting:

            11:00 Lombardo says (about Campos) “Immediately upon being injured notified security of his situation”

            Security? Hotel security? So Campos DID notify hotel security that he had been shot. Did the hotel warn Schuck as he approached the floor from another wing to, allegedly, check a fire exit? When Schuck made his radio call it didn’t sound like the hotel had already been informed of a shooting on that floor. Did Schuck inform the hotel the he was with Campos and Campos was injured?

            Can anyone understand the question being asked at 13:36? Lombardo’s answer is “They weren’t aware of him being shot until they met him in the hallway after exiting the elevator”. Is Lombardo talking about the police being unaware that Campos had been shot? Didn’t Campos tell anyone he’d been shot? Didn’t Schuck tell anyone Campos had been shot? Is that weird?

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            • georgiafl says:

              Campos is looking more suspicious by the minute.

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            • georgiafl says:

              Photo of Campos makes him look like twin brother of male San Bernardino shooter.

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            • covfefe999 says:

              Here’s the full audio (I think) of Schuck’s call. It seems hotel security had not been informed prior. Did Campos call them or not?

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              • covfefe999 says:

                The only mention of Campos is “security’s up here” near the end, but Schuck doesn’t say Campos is injured. This is too bizarre. Is there a longer version of this recording?

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                • cagberry says:

                  October 13, 2017 at 8:05 am

                  We need to hear the entire recording from that night including the call(s) that sent security and maintenance to the scene. LVPD mentioned that there were poor timestamps and manual entrys used leading to errors in tline. But if it’s all recorded how can that be?

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                • cagberry says:

                  Are there 2 separate dispatch recordings? One for maintenance and one for security? Note dispatcher is relaying info to security from maintenance guy.

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                • quagmire86 says:

                  Most large companies send their maintenance guys to a job via a work-order. It would be nice to see if the reason Schuck was sent to the area and what he was supposed to be working on.

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              • eagledriver50 says:

                On 00:57 — “Base to 106, Stephen. Security wants to know if you know a room.”
                Stephen — “IT’S AT THE END OF THE HALLWAY, UH, I CAN’T TELL YOU WHAT ROOM. IT LOOKED LIKE HE FIRED DOWN THE HALLWAY WHEN I GOT CLOSE TO THE DOOR”…
                The Room is at the end of the hallway…how in the hell can “Stephen” miss it? Not believing that for a second!!!

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                • Poundsand says:

                  Guys. Put yourself in his position for just a second. Normal maintenance guy just doing his job. Never been shot at in his life, never EXPECTED to get shot at in his life, turns the hallway corner and BAM he is being shot at. Yeah, you don’t notice the room number and you don’t try to puzzle it out because you have time to review the hotel floor plan schematic in your head. Please.

                  And do you really think that control had the where with all to remember that maintenance worker # 27 was in route and based on our calculations and projected pathway would enter hallway at x amount of time? They didn’t expect shooting and no doubt there were multiple parties attempting to address multiple situations throughout the hotel. Someone has to keep in contact with Campos, someone has to contact police, someone has to grab the emergency procedure checklist, and on and on.

                  Most people panic and it takes a few moments to let crazy circumstances to sink in so you can think. Notice they haven’t released Campos’. Imagine the panic as he not only was shot at, he was hit. My hat is off to him for having the presence of mind to apparently close the door on the way out, take cover in an alcove, make radio contact with control, and warn the guy in the hallway. Stellar work in my book.

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            • jakeandcrew says:

              The question at 13:36 is “When did the police know the security guard had been shot…” she goes on to say before…or after…? I can’t quite make that part out. I don’t think it matters, because he didn’t answer that part.

              He says, “They weren’t aware of him being shot until they met him in the hallway after exiting the elevator.”

              10:17 is when the first 2 police officers arrive on the 32nd floor, according to the police timeline. (Yeah, I know.)

              Hotel officials believe Paddock began shooting into the concert crowd “at the same time as, or within 40 seconds after” the wounded guard, Jesus Campos, used his radio to call for help…

              Paddock began shooting at 10:05.

              So how do 12 minutes go by without the police knowing that a security guard has been shot on the 32nd floor?

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              • Llamamama3 says:

                What I think the reporter asks is, When did the police know that the security guard was shot, before the gunshot at 10:05, or only after the active shooting began?

                But I can’t totally hear it either. But Jake you’re right, the Sheriff never answered anyway. At that point he was still trying to hide the time frame Campos was shot.

                Lombardo was very uncomfortable. I noticed at 1:19 of the video he says “he (Campos) was able to confirm for us exactly what he heard and saw in the moments before the (pause) he was shot.” Then Lombardo clears his throat.
                IMO Lombardo almost slipped and was going to say, moments before THE shooting began. I guess it doesn’t matter because it was admitted later that Campos was shot before active shooting began at 10:05.

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              • Poundsand says:

                With the adrenaline running he might not have even known immediately and there were bigger things going on that required his attention. He wasn’t dying, and we don’t know the full nature of the wound even. I have to imagine that the round he took (it was still in his leg) had to have been one fired through the door or wall to have lost enough energy to have remained in his leg.

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          • wolfmoon1776 says:

            WOW. I agree – there is mental uncertainty and it is a good thing.

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        • Sunshine says:

          Campos was not long on the job. His name entered the MGM employment system a few days before the shooting and no photo was taken of him for his security officer posting.
          Something wrong with Jesus !!

          Start at 1:08:30

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      • wheatietoo says:

        Here we go, Wolfie…I been saying this would happen.

        Please watch this:


        .
        .
        We don’t even know what happened yet in the Las Vegas Massacre.
        But…Quick! Let’s pass a New Gun Law!
        Get it done fast, before anyone finds out what happened.

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        • wolfmoon1776 says:

          Yeah, this bill needs to die. It’s BS. Anybody who votes for it needs to be destroyed at the ballot box.

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          • wheatietoo says:

            They’ve got well-meaning people feeling like we need to “Do Something”, in the wake of this horrible massacre.

            And Pres Trump, God Bless him, he’s a softie for wanting to ‘do something’ to help protect people.

            This is why my little voice has been going…’danger. danger, wheatie. there’s danger here’.

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            • wolfmoon1776 says:

              Trump is smart, though – he gets how BAD BILLS make BAD LAW and BAD LAW makes DISRESPECT for law.

              Seriously – only a bill with NRA approval. Forget anything else.

              We need a GOOD definition of what they want to get rid of. Honest gun people can come up with something that makes sense.

              BUT I say that there is no way any legislation gets passed until they solve this case in Las Vegas. No way should we be banning stuff until we actually know what happened. If this was the work of cartel operatives on behalf of Deep State, then to heck with ANY gun laws.

              BUILD THE DAMN WALL.

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              • wheatietoo says:

                We don’t need *any* new Gun Laws.
                None.
                NO New Gun Laws. Period.

                Guns don’t kill people.
                Those guns didn’t just spring to life and start killing all those people at that concert.
                It was *people* who did that.

                And the NRA is no help right now!
                Wayne LaPierre already said he thinks we need “new regulations” on these bump stock things.

                He should have his mouth washed out with soap!

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                • POP says:

                  You Idiot.
                  You will lose support for the black letter SCOTUS support of the 2nd if you carry on like an obsessive fool unable to understand the downstream consequences.
                  Bump stocks are for recreational CLOWNS or criminals. Riflemen laugh at the concept of the inaccurate spray. Gangs and low rent clowns are its target audience.
                  Should never have been approved.

                  Go ahead, your BS harms our reasonable argument.

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                • wheatietoo says:

                  Woah.
                  You call me an “idiot” and then claim that I am the one harming ‘reasonable argument’?

                  I agree about the bump stocks though.
                  It was fishy that the Dems approved of them…and quite possibly a trap, to be used in a scenario just such as the one taking place.

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                • mazziflol says:

                  The NRA has said 1) they aren’t going to oppose some sort of regulation on bump fire stocks (although LaPierre has insisted that they aren’t calling for a ban), and 2) the BATFE should review and decide whether or not bump fire stocks fall under federal regulations.

                  This is the strongest position the NRA could have taken

                  Worth the read:
                  http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/10/johannes-paulsen/nras-position-bump-fire-stocks-genius/

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                • wheatietoo says:

                  I completely disagree with that article.

                  Did you read the comments?
                  I am not alone in disagreeing with that article.

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                • Dr. D says:

                  A new reg outlawing bump stocks is very reasonable, imo. If the shooter(s) got fewer rounds off, most likely less people would be dead. Outlawing the bump stocks seems like a very reasonable compromise. IF the NRA refuses every single reasonable compromise, the left could legitimately say that the NRA will never agree to anything and a majority of people will not support that.

                  Let the left be the unreasonable ones.

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                • wheatietoo says:

                  You keep using the word “reasonable’…over and over…reasonable reasonable reasonable.

                  That is a word that people use when they are trying to ‘take’ something away.

                  I don’t own a semi-auto weapon or a bump stock thing.
                  But there are a lot of people who do, and they have done nothing wrong.

                  I don’t think it is ‘reasonable’ to take something away from law-abiding people who have done nothing wrong…just because some leftist scum decided to commit mass murder.

                  We don’t even know what happened yet.

                  But…Quick! Let’s pass a new Gun Law before people figure out what happened.

                  Then people can have a ‘feel good’ moment and feel like they ‘did something’.

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                • Dr. D says:

                  wheatie, sorry if what I said was insulting; I was trying not to be. It was the best analogy I could think of, but I understand if it came off as insulting. As I’ve said, I do not favor anything being pushed by democrats.

                  Again, the democrats couldn’t ban semi-auto rifles when they’ve had a majority of all the branches. They’re not going to now, despite what some fear mongers will say. I don’t believe everything I see and read.

                  I’m simply saying that I agree with LaPierre and his official statement which is:

                  “In Las Vegas, reports indicate that certain devices were used to modify the firearms involved. Despite the fact that the Obama administration approved the sale of bump fire stocks.., the National Rifle Association is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) to immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law. The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations.”

                  To me, the above is reasonable and I think the vast majority of Americans also think it’s reasonable. Of course many on the left want more and to that I say, tough shit.

                  If agreeing with the CEO of the NRA makes me seem like a liberal, I don’t know what to say. I’m one of the most conservative people I know. I’m 55 and have never voted for a democrat in my life and can see no reason why I ever will.

                  You, and a few others and I disagree on bump stocks; that’s your right. Have a nice day.

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          • Jedi9 says:

            Totally agree! This is what it looks like in the early stages of what a power grab is. Next step? Complete take over by the police state. Once the guns are confiscated, people like Ryan can run all over the people without any fear of reprisals from “We The People”! This guy is right, we need to get on the phones and flood the lines. Rally!

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            • 4sure says:

              Typical liberal/commie tactic. Make people feel they are nuts or unreasonable for opposing confiscation or outlawing something or infringing on a constitutional right, so they can get their nose under the tent. It’s the way they operate. It’s their MO. Don’t give them an opening on anything having to do w/guns. It is merely the first step.

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              • Dr. D says:

                Are you talking to me? How many times do I have to say I don’t support regs the democrats are pushing (I never support any BS they push).

                I’m simply saying I agree with the CEO of the freaking NRA, who has said “that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles (e.g., bump stocks) should be subject to additional regulations.”

                What the hell is so extreme or liberal about that?

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                • wolfmoon1776 says:

                  Me too. NRA is VERY SMART on this. That is why I say no legislation that the NRA does not approve, and they will NEVER approve open-ended BS.

                  Smartest thing is for ATF to correct their error, NOT to introduce this horrible standard of “increasing the rate of fire”. THAT is just more trouble – very Democrat – solve a problem with something that creates more problems.

                  I’m sure there is at least one simple legal and engineering concept which solves this to everybody’s satisfaction – INCLUDING NRA and GOA – and THAT is what we need to demand.

                  Here is one candidate definition that covers bump stocks but not too much more, and will capture anything like them in the future at a very general level:

                  “Attached or attachable mechanical devices, WHEN ATTACHED TO THE GUN, designed to fully automate an existing semi-automatic trigger by directing recoil energy to re-operate the trigger without a new logical input by the shooter for each trigger pull.”

                  This prevents legislation against “fingers”, hand tricks, rapid-fire shooting, resonant conditions, and common objects, and it walls off unintended use against historic firearms like Gatling guns. It leaves unaffected what is already covered by policy, IMO.

                  It would NOT legislate against existing bump-stocks, but it would make people remove them. They could not use them without the higher license for automatic weapons.

                  I don’t pretend that this is fully fleshed out, but I think this is more of a valid starting point.

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        • PDQ says:

          Doesn’t the president have veto power over something like this?

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          • wheatietoo says:

            Yes he does.
            But if no one is opposing it…and the NRA is squishy on it…then he might think it’s “the right thing to do”.

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            • Dr. D says:

              why wouldn’t it be the right thing to do? Why are bump stocks worth fighting for?

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              • wheatietoo says:

                Because they won’t stop with just the bump stocks…they use the opportunity to insert open ended language into the bill to include semi-auto weapons.

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                • Dr. D says:

                  Sorry, but that’s a bogus reason. That’s like saying if they ban automatic weapons, they’ll “insert open ended language into the bill to include semi-auto weapons”. Well, they banned automatic weapons in 1986 and it didn’t affect semi-auto.

                  Furthermore, some states have already banned bump stocks, while semi-auto aren’t.

                  Let’s be reasonable. It’s a minority of stubborn NRA type people that allow the left to paint with a broad brush that the NRA is unreasonable and will never agree to anything that could save lives.

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                • wheatietoo says:

                  Excuse me…it’s not a bogus reason.

                  I do not trust the weasels in Congress on this.

                  We were told that “If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor”…and that our Health Ins premiums would go down.

                  They claimed that there was a “Healthcare Crisis” (there wasn’t) and they were going to ‘fix it’.
                  Instead…they screwed us over and screwed up our Healthcare system.

                  “Never let a crisis go to waste”….right?

                  Well someone has gone to a lot of trouble to create this ‘Crisis’ in Las Vegas…and we don’t know why.

                  They keep saying “We may never know the motive.”

                  But…Quick! Let’s pass a New Gun Control Law to make us all feel better.

                  Nope.
                  I’m not buying it.
                  This whole thing stinks.
                  We are being played and herded like sheep.

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                • 7delta says:

                  You’re right, Wheatie. The reason we have a Constitutional Republic, the Rule of Law, not of men, is because the founders knew that people’s emotions can be used against them to strip them of their rights and for “ambitious” men to usurp power. Psychologically, no important decisions or changes should ever be made for 6 months to 2 years following a traumatic experience, whether it’s a personal or collective experience. Ever. That’s the “reasonable” approach.

                  We should be aware by now of how the “ambitious” take advantage of emotions and manipulate them to further agendas. It’s never about safety, security or compromise. It’s the steady march of agenda. Always. That’s not a conspiracy theory either, though it only takes one more person involved than it takes to commit an act for a conspiracy to exist. It’s a tactic.

                  “Those who would give up their essential rights for temporary safety deserve neither.” ~Benjamin Franklin

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                • wheatietoo says:

                  Well said, 7delta.

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                • mimbler says:

                  Yes, the proposal that I saw banned anything that makes a trigger work better. (I don’t remember the exact language well enough to quote it).
                  That would ban mods softening trigger pulls, polishing trigger groups and other mods done by competitive shooters (or anyone who wants a more accurate gun).

                  When they say reasonable gun control rather than bragging about specifically what they are doing, it is the same as “comprehensive immigration reform”. It is open ended and they are hiding their true intentions,

                  I also saw a you-tube demonstrating how you an get the same effect of a bump stock using only a large rubber band. So this legislation is pointless, or more gun control, but not effective for it’s intended purpose.

                  I have no objection to the ATF revisiting their obama era determination that bump stocks are legal. If that was a mistake, then just change their policy to reflect it. No legislation necessary.

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                • Llamamama3 says:

                  Like!
                  Wheatietoo don’t have WordPress!

                  The wording of that bill is far too vague! I don’t like it. It needs to be stopped! I believe it will end up including semiautomatic weapons.

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                • Dr. D says:

                  wheatie, I’m no big fan of congress. Who is? But the lies you refer to on obamacare were 100% by democrats, who no longer have a majority. Yes, the GOP has failed to repeal, but that’s due to a couple like McCain (and maybe Rand Paul had good reason to hold out).

                  The difference is GOP now has a majority and there are enough (5-6) red state democrats who know they’ll be voted out if they go too far on gun control. They couldn’t ban semi-auto when they’ve had the majority (multiple times over the last 30 years).

                  I’m trying to be nice and not call names, but I believe refusing to compromise on something like this is akin to a child refusing to share his toys with another because “if i let him play with one, he’ll take them all!”

                  I’m glad it looks like LaPierre and the NRA is going to be more reasonable than you.

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                • wheatietoo says:

                  You argue like a liberal.

                  You say you’re “trying to be nice and not call names”…and then you call me “a child refusing to share toys”.

                  And then you use that word again — “reasonable”.

                  Why are you so insistent on taking away a part of our 2nd Amendment Rights?

                  I challenge youto be ‘reasonable’ and prove that those people in Las Vegas were killed with a bump stock.

                  There has been no ballistic evidence released yet.
                  But you are ready to ‘regulate’ and ‘ban’ things based on…no evidence.

                  How is that being reasonable?

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                • Dr. D says:

                  Let me be clear, I’m only talking about bump stocks. I’m not talking about whatever bill the dems are pushing.

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                • Eskyman says:

                  That’s exactly right! Just like the 1968 Gun Control Act put “sporting purposes” as a reason to ban imports of guns.

                  Whatever guns the BATFE thought weren’t suitable for “sporting purposes” were banned. Does the 2nd Amendment exist for “sporting purposes?” According to the bureaucrats, it does!

                  The bill that’s being proposed is “open-ended,” meaning it doesn’t specify bump stocks. It says something like “rate-increasing device,” which could mean anything. Bureaucrats just love being able to interpret laws to their heart’s content, it means anything and everything can be interpreted to mean anything they want it to. Wouldn’t they love to ban semiauto rifles, just because they can!

                  Check out the video posted above by wheatietoo, it explains the whole thing. This is serious, and we must burn up the phone lines if we want to keep our semiauto weapons!

                  The video lists all the turncoat “Republicans” that support this thing, let’s get them out of office too!

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                • wheatietoo says:

                  I’m with you, Eskyman.

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                • 7delta says:

                  Bump stocks are irrelevant. The guy had them, but he probably had a mag loader too. So what? Bump stocks are notoriously unreliable and the sustained fire obviously doesn’t come from a weapon with one. They’re simply being used as a vehicle to increase control. Even the most virulent anti-gun legislators know this law is irrelevant, and in rare moments of forced truthfulness, say it.

                  This bill is pablum, but it’s poison milk. Every gun control law success/compromise encourages more big violence and more laws. Failure doesn’t stop the control efforts or its ignorant and activist minions, but it slows them and creates the need to scale back and refocus their target.

                  There’s a pattern to this that holds true every time a big horrible event happens. Different roles are played from ban all guns to strengthening oversight on who can buy guns/registries, etc., most of which already exist, to banning low-hanging fruit, or combinations thereof. By the time they get to the “reasonable” argument, we’re getting close to the original goal that’s suitable for what they expect can be done…this time. It’s just part of the cyclic tactic to disarmament and control.

                  IMO, tell Congress NO!, but we’ll revisit the issue in 2 years when it’s no longer a worthless, emotional knee-jerk reaction.Of course, that takes away their ability to strike while the iron is hot, so they won’t want to do that.

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        • cagberry says:

          We need to hear the entire recording from that night including the call(s) that sent security and maintenance to the scene. LVPD mentioned that there were poor timestamps and manual entrys used leading to errors in tline. But if it’s all recorded how can that be?

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        • Jedi9 says:

          Thanks for sharing Wheatietoo!

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        • 7delta says:

          Before I write my critters, I like to have bill numbers and read the text, so I went to the House’s site to see if I could find the bill the guy in the video is talking about. I don’t find anything by Carlos Carbelo (R-Fl-26), but I found 4 bills introduced since Oct. 1 regarding firearms, all Dem sponsored and all Dem co-sponsored. The video guy either got some bad info or is confused about the bill’s sponsor.

          The most likely bill he’s referring to: H.R.3947: Automatic Gunfire Prevention Act of 2017. (introduced 10/04/2017): Sponsor: David Cicilline (D-RI-1). Currently 173 co-sponsors, all Dem.

          SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

          This Act may be cited as the “Automatic Gunfire Prevention Act”.

          SEC. 2. PROHIBITION ON POSSESSION OF CERTAIN FIREARM ACCESSORIES.

          Chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amended—

          (1) in section 922, by inserting after subsection (u) the following:

          “(v) (1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), on and after the date that is 180 days after the date of enactment of this subsection, it shall be unlawful for any person to import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or possess, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, a trigger crank, a bump-fire device, or any part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment, or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machinegun.

          “(2) This subsection does not apply with respect to the importation for, manufacture for, sale to, transfer to, or possession by or under the authority of, the United States or any department or agency thereof or a State, or a department, agency, or political subdivision thereof.”; and

          (2) in section 924(a)(2), by striking “, or (o)” and inserting “(o), or (v)”.

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          • 7delta says:

            The other three:

            H.R. 3986: Stopping the Iron Pipeline Act of 2017: Sponsor: Velasquez (D): “Establish a national standard for incorporating a passive identification ability into all firearms sold in the United States.”

            H.R.3984: Equal Access to Justice for Victims of Gun Violence Act of 2017: Sponsor:Adam Schiff (d): “Repeal the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act and provide for the discoverability and admissibility of gun trace information in civil proceedings.”

            H.R.3962: Bonnie Watson-Coleman (D): Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act.

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          • wheatietoo says:

            Thanks, 7delta…nice work!

            That was filed on the 4th, just 3 days after the shooting?
            That was fast.

            Maybe the R’s mentioned in the video haven’t filed theirs yet?
            Or maybe they saw that this one had been filed and so they backed off.

            I already wrote my congressmen and simply told them “No New Gun Laws — Period!”

            Thanks for letting me know about that one.

            Let’s hope that Rat Ryan never lets it get out of committee or up for a vote.

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            • 7delta says:

              Yeah, it was fast. Seems to happen a lot. If I were a suspicious person, why, I’d think they have bills ready before something happens. Ya know, just in case somebody might use a bump stock or something. Okay, it wasn’t exactly a 2000 page bill, but still… Never let a crisis go to waste. Waste effects their waists. Fat and happy. Fat wallets and happy to totally control the pesky peons.

              I’ve written a letter to my House rep, but haven’t sent it yet. I always have to go back and cut out at least half or three-quarters of the journey I take the reader on to demonstrate the literal and historical irrationality and unconstitutionality of whatever “reasonable” and “compassionate” plan they’re cooking up. Plus, I can’t help myself from explaining how their “reasonable” incremental chipping away of rights will always take theirs too, because, contrary to what they may think, they ain’t special. To the few who will hold all the power they usurp, they’re just tools, like bump stocks. Even their mamas would be upset by their complete inability to use logic and reason to calculate outcome.

              Once I have it out my system, I edit most of it out, then end up sending a letter that says, “I respectfully ask that you vote NO or I will surely campaign against you, so I won’t be alone when I vote NO to your name on the ballot.”

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      • Jedi9 says:

        What about this story?

        https://www.rt.com/usa/406310-paddock-house-reno-break-in/

        No posted guards at the house and apparently who ever broke in they were able to break in through the front door? How come this is not making more news around here? Seems rather suspicious to me! What do you think?

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        • wheatietoo says:

          They said there was no sign of a ‘break in’…as in broken window or door forced open.

          So someone either had a key, or knew how to pick a lock.
          Paddock’s brother, Eric, went to Vegas on Friday, I think it was.
          Maybe he drove over to Reno to get something in that house?

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        • Llamamama3 says:

          Jedi, I posted about that yesterday! I asked if anyone had heard about it and if they thought it was fake or real news! I found it suspicious too!
          I still don’t know if it’s real news. How would the FBI know if anything was missing if they neglected to see it in the first place! How did they know the intruders entered through the front door? SMH!

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          • Llamamama3 says:

            Wheat that was what came to my mind immediately! His brother!

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          • Jedi9 says:

            Sorry I didn’t mean to steal your thunder Llamamama3! Lol! I guess me posting it again was meant to be, all part of the plan of shining light on the darkness sort of speak. I do think this is real, and the fact the house was not guarded is extremely suspicious to me, especially during an investigation? It is the reason this entire narrative is getting silly because we have things like this that raises such suspicions in the first place.

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        • wolfmoon1776 says:

          I am not sure what to think. Mostly bad theories, but a few good ones. 😉

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      • Sunshine says:

        More support for the CARTEL theory.

        The cartels use casinos to launder money and casinos pay protection money to the cartels. The only way to achieve this is through very close ties between the upper management of the casinos and the cartels.

        Murren was forced into hiring Campos a few days before the attack. Murren also divested 80% of his shares one week earlier.

        LAS VEGAS SUN, August 2012
        ”Mexican cartels are working to establish a direct foothold in Las Vegas to sell drugs here and use the region as a stepping stone to shipping large quantities of drugs to the East, law enforcement officials say.”

        https://lasvegassun.com/news/2012/aug/07/mexican-drug-cartels-try-establish-direct-ties-las/

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    • eagledriver50 says:

      MVW…NO…ANYTHING COMING OUT OF THIS INVESTIGATION NEEDS THE FOLLOWING: COMPLETE TOXICOLOGY REPORTS, ID OF PERSON ON FLOOR, COMPLETE FORENSIC MAKEUP, ALL TAPES TO INCLUDE — MANDALA CCTV, POLICE DISPATCHER TAPES (CALLS ARE TIMESTAMPED), ALL PHOTOS, ALL NUMBERED GUN RESIDUE SWABS INCLUDING PICTURES OF WHERE FOUND. This would include ANY tapes from newstations/tv and anything else. This is then turned OVER to an independent team of the top forensic specialists in the world and everyone meet at the Mandalay…Then we will find the answers and yes, this would include the Israelis. The found the last two ’72 Munich Massacre in Syria 10 years later…based upon FORENSIC EVIDENCE as I described above…Anything short of this is a coverup as far as I am concerned…

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  7. wolfmoon1776 says:

    OK – time to clock out for a while. Hope they have Mr. Campos back by the time I’m back on.

    Have a great day, Treepers! 😎

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  8. PDQ says:

    200 rounds, close proximity, hits guy in leg.
    1000’s of rounds MUCH farther proximity, hits a guy 3 times in the chest.
    Either somene is s lying or there were shooters in the crowd.

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    • 6x47 says:

      Paddock was a complete whack job and had no skills at all.

      When I was in the Marine Corps (1988-98) we NEVER fired the M16 on burst: It’s a waste of ammo. Furthermore any machine gunner (M60/M2/M240G/M249 SAW) will tell you machine guns are not fired in long bursts, but in 6-round bursts. This conserves ammo, allows careful placement of fire, and prevents the gun overheating.

      200 rounds down the hallway, 1 non-lethal hit on lone security guard = why bump stocks not effective weapon. No accuracy, “spray and pray”.

      Spraying at the distant crowd only effective due to density of people.

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      • Eskyman says:

        Yes, and if one round out of 200 hit the mysterious Mr. Campos in the leg- what happened to the other 199+ rounds? Where are the pictures of bulletholes in the walls, ceilings, floor, or the wall at the end of the corridor?

        All those rounds didn’t just melt away, they must’ve gone somewhere! IF, and that’s a big IF, there were actually 200 rounds fired at Campos through the door.

        Why wouldn’t this Lone Shooter Rambo just open the door and shoot Campos directly? Oh, he preferred to murder hundreds of people so far away he can’t even see them clearly, but not the one threatening his plot who is standing right in front of him, is that it?

        Bring out Suspicious Cat, this just ain’t adding up!

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    • James W Crawford says:

      Documentation?
      3 shots to chest is not at all consistent with long range rapid fire or even long range sniper fire. Consistent with close range pistol.

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      • Chris says:

        “Consistent with close range pistol.”
        .. or an UZI Mac -10 type weapon..and only close range of course, as bullet velocity/accuracy would drop too much to group 3x chest (pie-plate target) @ from the MB
        thirty second floor.

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      • eagledriver50 says:

        Machine Gunner also in ‘Nam…Fired 2×3 round bursts even in heat of combat to do exactly what you said. These long burst coming from those rooms…UHH No…We have not seen ANY forensic evidence that the “bump stock” was used…Forensic Evidence will prove one-way or another what REALLY took place…

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    • eagledriver50 says:

      PDQ…WHO are you referring too and please provide either URL or picture…Putting stuff out there without reference is causing some to chase down rabbit holes…

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      • wheatietoo says:

        If I may, eagledriver, those details come from witness accounts in the videos from that night.
        Those videos have been posted in the previous threads on this massacre…and so the conversations here are sort of a ‘continuation’ of the discussions from those threads.

        The “200 rounds shot down the hall” detail was given out early on, by the LVMPD in their pressers, if I remember right.
        That detail has been repeated by the media and by people discussing it.

        As far as real evidence of that many rounds being fired in the hallway…we have none.

        We’ve also been told repeatedly that there were “1000s of rounds” fired out of those windows at the Mandalay.
        And again…no evidence to prove it.

        The “3 shots in the chest” came from a bearded guy in a couple of the videos who says that his buddy “standing next to him” was shot 3 times in the chest.

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  9. racerxx says:

    Coulter’s article resonates with me. I almost wonder if Paddock didn’t do this at all. It was a gun deal that went bad, he got iced, and the “buyers” smashed the windows and started shooting. Either as a diversion or as the main intention. Either way it’s worth considering, and based on the time gaps I’d say it’s quite plausible.

    http://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2017/10/11/ann-coulter-media-begging-us-conspiracy-theories-las-vegas/

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    • Ted says:

      No one seems to want to hear it. Only reasonable theory so far is that Paddock was involved in illicit gun trading.

      Professional video poker player = part time money launderer + full time illicit profession

      Drilling when initially confronted means he was installing OR uninstalling something. Given what we know from hotel records and concert event, it’s more likely he was uninstalling.

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      • racerxx says:

        It almost seems like this was a gun-running sting. Paddock was either removing or installing cameras. The “buyers” came early or returned after the deal. Shot Paddock, started searching the room to get recordings, etc. Found by Sec guard by accident. They start shooting at him. Then bust the windows and start shooting in the crowd to create a diversion/chaos.
        The thing about a sting like this, is there would’ve had to have been agents watching from an adjoining room. Since it doesn’t seem like there was, then maybe Paddock was being set up. Who knows. The cameras are central I’d think. Smells like a botched sting more and more.. Makes me wonder how many there were and what they took out of the room.

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        • eagledriver50 says:

          No…the “Security Guard” Campos was the lookout…

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        • racerxx says:

          Another good video. I wasn’t aware of the rental car angle. Very interesting.

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        • John says:

          Nobody’s gonna gun-run ARs. Maybe M249s or M60s though. If The Fibbies would ever release what caliber rounds were used, that’s be an important clue. Why won’t they release how many shell casing were found, what caliber and where? Maybe the round count doesn’t add up? Did the real attackers have snoods on their rifles?

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    • distracted2 says:

      That was worth reading. Thanks!

      This is my favorite part: “The New York Times explained that the “top” video poker machines pay out 99.17 percent. That’s great that Paddock was only losing cents on the dollar (if true), but it’s still losing.”

      Losing a couple of cents per dollar is a small price to pay if laundering money. No wonder he treated it like a job, playing all night for at least two weeks a month.

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    • mimi says:

      And back to the garden gloves. Does anyone seriously believe those slippery gloves would be used while shooting? But very easy to slip on dead hands.

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    • georgiafl says:

      The official investigation is pretty much unbelievable, flimsy/faulty and seems like much is being covered up.

      Watching lots of videos by independent investigators, it looks like drones and/or shooters nearer than the 32nd floor were involved.

      Stuff unofficial investigators and witnesses on the ground videos claim:
      – Air thick with gun smoke.
      – Concert goer near stage looks around to left and above Jumbotron for source of gun shots.
      – Concert crowd was ‘lit up’ from both ends of the audience fenced in area and herded prevented from leaving.
      – Concert crowd experienced cross-fire from two sides behind the lights, so muzzle flashes would be invisible.
      – Several video gunshot analysts say there were several guns, near and far during shooting spree.
      – Towers on vacant lots, rooftop of convenience store and apartments are within the gunshot analysis range.
      – People on the ground say several hotels were shot up.
      – People on the ground saw suspicious people with guns, running around, getting into SUVs, etc.
      – Something that looks like a piece of a drone was picked up by police and loaded into a truck or helicopter?
      – There is a billionaire drone developer near the airport and concert venue.

      This massacre just as disgusting, dishonest, disgraceful as when the Jesse Matthew (killer of Hannah Graham), Jessica Chambers, Mike Brown, Trayvon Martin, Kendrick Johnson and Eric Sheppard, the armed Valdosta flag stomper began to come to light.

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      • georgiafl says:

        Edit – This massacre *and the subsequent investigation are* just as disgusting, dishonest, disgraceful as when the Jesse Matthew (killer of Hannah Graham), Jessica Chambers, Mike Brown, Trayvon Martin, Kendrick Johnson and Eric Sheppard, the armed Valdosta flag stomper, *the Boston Bombing, Orlando Shooting, San Bernardino shooting, and other incidents and investigations involving FBI, etc.* began to come to light.

        I’m sure there are more that I am too angry to remember right now.

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    • James W Crawford says:

      This scenario is a BATF fantasy. There is no plausible black market for guns that would make it worth anyone’s time to buy guns from an FFL dealer then resell them. There is ZERO profit margin even selling to felons because you are competing with stolen firearms. There is no profit to fund much less justify a meeting in a Casino’s high roller suite. Even worse, if you make multiple purchases from an FFL dealer, they are required to notify BATF. Multiple purchases from multiple dealers primarily of one type of firearm (AR15 style rifle) puts you on the BATF feces list. BATF cannot deny that that they were aware ofPaddock and his gun purchases.

      The only plausible version of this scenario is BATF was running a sting to sell guns to Psycho Saudi Jihadists, primarily tonadvance a political agenda rathernthan as a legitimate counter terrorism operation, who then killed Paddock then assaulted the concert crowd. This scenario is toxic to BATF and may be Department of Homeland Security.

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    • Sunshine says:

      It’s not a gun deal gone bad. Don’t forget Paddock had previously rented rooms facing festivals at two other hotels, one in Vegas and the other in Chicago.
      Both cities have a heavy cartel presence and drugs are their livelihood while guns are also sold to support the drug business.
      There’s a lot more money to be made in selling a 1-lb bag of whatever drug than in selling one gun.
      The festival that was targeted was attended by a Trump-type crowd.
      What would trigger the cartels in carrying out random slaughter: the Wall.

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  10. cagberry says:

    Where was the maintenance guy when police arrived? When did he first appear in the story? Why wasn’t he declared a hero as well by LVPD?

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  11. Right Mover says:

    So let me get this straight: Within 12 hours of the massacre, the FBI had enough information to declare with no reservations that this was “not terrorism,” but here we are now 12 days later and authorities look like they know less now than they did then.

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  12. 6x47 says:

    All this really means is the hotel denies dithering for 6 minutes before calling 911.

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    • jakeandcrew says:

      I think it means the police didn’t know for 12 minutes from the time the security guard radioed in, to the time the police got to the floor, that a security guard had been shot on the 32nd floor. Is that because the hotel didn’t call the police, or the police didn’t communicate it to their officers? I don’t even like typing such a thing, but this is crazy – I guess anything’s possible.

      10:05 – Paddock opens fire on crowd
      from above –
      Hotel officials believe Paddock began shooting into the concert crowd “at the same time as, or within 40 seconds after” the wounded guard, Jesus Campos, used his radio to call for help, the statement said.

      10:17 – First 2 officers arrive on 32nd floor
      from 10/9 press conference –
      Sheriff says ,“They (the police) weren’t aware of him being shot until they met him in the hallway after exiting the elevator.”

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      • Jedi9 says:

        I thought the name “Campos” is pronounced “Camp” “pose” not “Compost” like this guy is pronouncing it!

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        • georgiafl says:

          Spanish A is pronounced Ah and almost an O.

          Campadres – is pronounced cohm-pah-drehs – with a little Spanish trill of the R.

          I am so resentful of the attempt to make the USA a dual language and force Arabic/Islam on US citizens as well, that I purposely mispronounce Spanish and Arabic names as unflatteringly as possible.

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          • Jedi9 says:

            Well, having known a few Cubans in New York, they pronounce it differently which is why I was questioning this. Maybe it is a Mexican dialect thing.

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  13. mimi says:

    I was beginning to discount the FBI sting theory until the idea of “uninstalling equipment” came up. Perhaps the cameras were set up for the Feds to watch and record the activity. If the thought that the guns were to be taken out of the country, it doesn’t matter that they were traceable to Paddock. Just grasping at straws because the more we know, the more we don’t know.

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  14. Paco Loco says:

    The Campos and Shuck stories sound scripted. NBC never asked any key questions to Shuck such as did you ever see Paddock? The interview reeks of a coverup story.

    Campos is now history and gone to ground so we won’t get any more out of him. I hope he’s alive and will testify at the Grand Jury Investigation that’s sure to come. Unfortunately we will all have to wait for the Coroners Report on Paddock and the forensics report on the gun shot residue, the type and number of guns that were fired, ammo casing count, finger print, DNA analysis etc.to get or refute that Paddock was the lone gunman.

    The press and the public needs to hold LVMPD and the FBIs feet to the fire on these reports. My own personal take on what happened is the evidence of multiple shooters should easily be verified by eyewitness accounts and forensics.

    Paddocks motive for involvement appears to be non political/non religious. Money doesn’t seem like a motivating factor has he had plenty and cash flow from real estate. The mans motive is a real mystery that the FBI should be able to discover it by now. The shame of it all is that the FBI has colored the investigation into his motives from the get go.

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    • Paco Loco says:

      Sure would be nice to have an editing feature.

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    • sonjay says:

      What grand jury investigation? Assuming they never find any accomplices, and with Paddock dead, there’s no one to charge with a crime, and so nothing for a grand jury to investigate.

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    • James W Crawford says:

      You can buy a full auto AK-47 or M-16 for a few hundred bucks in Kabul, Bahgdad, Mogidishu or Beiruit for a few hundred bucks. Why would you spend $1,000s to travel to the US to pay $1,000+ to buy semiauto rifles with bump stocks in America?
      Answer…
      To massacre a crowd of Americans knowing that BATF and FBI will be too busy diverting attention from their own culpability to prosecute you.

      Is this why President Trump views the massacre as a personal betrayal?

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    • Orygun says:

      Through this whole thing the cameras raise a question in my mind. The only reason I can see for having all the cameras was to use the video for blackmail or evidence in a trial. If the part about Campos being alerted to the room because the door was ajar and he heard drilling was true then it would seem Paddock or someone was drilling a hole to place another camera.

      With wifi cameras the adjoining rooms could have had accomplices in them recording the video and poised to make the bust or provide protection to Paddock. The stairwell being closed off was to prevent the culprits from having a venue to escape once the sting went down. The camera angle always seemed wrong and it would be interesting to know who had rooms within wifi of the shooters room.

      It looks like a sting to break up a gun buying plot where the perps figured it out early and made the gov and everyone involved the fall guy while they shot up a bunch of innocents.

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  15. Tonawanda says:

    1) Ann Coulter correctly points out the mathematical impossibility of someone making a living from video poker, at least over the long term. The only way to come out ahead is to be the person at the machine when the one in 250,000 chance of pulling a royal flush comes up, and even then you have to have bet less than that in the time you sat there.

    2) Coulter oddly suggests that a man who sat for 12 hour sessions of video poker for days and months and years on end might have been doing it to launder money. That is certainly possible, but is there a simpler, readily observable, widely known phenomenon which might explain those thousands of hours of pulling a lever to get a pellet?

    3) Ask any DA within range of a casino about the explosion of casino related cases; related in the sense that a defendant or a suspected suicide had long since started pulling the lever at a bizarrely abnormal rate. Ask about the behavior of once normal people, and the huge increase in the amounts of money in question over pre-casino days.

    4) But apparently the possibility of gambling addiction is just not on anybody’s radar. And truthfully it is not very sexy.

    5) Does everyone agree that MB and possibly MGM, (and perhaps even Vegas?) are on the verge of financial ruin? Does anyone disagree that anybody of normal intelligence could have predicted this if told what was going to happen?

    6) Far from thinking Lombardo was a straight shooter or acting intimidated, he struck me from the start as a liar and flak catcher. Obviously, that’s just me. But any public official working in Vegas works first and foremost for the casinos, period. That is my operating premise. Everyone protects the golden goose at all times.

    7) There are many suspicious circumstances, yes, and it is obvious that the public information is being manipulated, or at the very least is based on incompetence. Just from my own pov, I think it is impossible to draw any valid inferences from the confusion, especially when all the speculation (some of it fascinating and in the “might be true” category) excludes any discussion about gambling addiction. I am not say IT IS gambling addiction, I am just saying the speculation at least needs to address the possibility, and I don’t think anyone can just flatly say “it had nothing to do with it, period.”

    8) I respect and admire Wolfmoon and take his trust of Mike Adams seriously, but I am skeptical that an expert can draw the conclusions Adams has without knowing a lot more than he knows. Amonmg other things, Adams does not know what he does not know, and somethings that is a very surprising thing.

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    • georgiafl says:

      Re 8) Multiple investigators, ‘analysts’ and witnesses have presented evidence that there were both near and far gunshot signatures and multiple shooters and shooter sites.
      There was heavy gun smoke and odor – https://twitter.com/8nja/status/914761067573604352
      The two towers on vacant lots, rooftops of apartments and convenience store are the sound analysts possible sites for shooters.
      Drones are also being mentioned as sources of gunfire.
      Video with alleged drone (@1:01)-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTf0dczD6jA&has_verified=1
      Shots from left of stage behind Jumbotron – (See 23:52 description of military use drone) -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ob1VfTaJpA

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  16. Paco Loco says:

    The eyewitness testimony and forensic evidence are key to the FBI’s lone gun man theory. At this point:
    1. Neither Campos or Shuck said that they saw Paddock alive in the hall, in the suite, or firing out the windows.
    2. If he was a shooter, forensics will confirm it as there will be GSR all over him.
    3. He was dead when SWAT entered the suite. How long had he been dead? Was he dead when the shooting started ?
    4. Was it a single shot in the mouth that killed him? or was he killed by more than one gunshot?
    5. Eyewitness accounts of shots coming from other locations will be confirmed by forensics. The LV Coroners reports on the gunshot victims will be key to solving the lone gun man theory.
    6. The FBI will have investigated his financial situation and should be able to report where his income was derived and if was money laundering via the casino.
    7. Motive is still the big question. If he was financially solvent and didn’t need to “run guns” for the money, why did he purchase all of the firearms. Twelve guns in the suite ? How many were fired?
    8. The explosives found in his car and home were apparently small amounts insufficient to build a bomb. Why did he have them?
    9. In the largest mass shooting in modern history, where in hell is AG Sessions. This is an investigation that needs to be headed up by the AG not his deputy. Right now we have no confidence in the LVMPD and the FBI to conduct this investigation.

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  17. Molly Pitcher says:

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/
    This has a picture that I hadn’t seen before of the broken window with an fbi agent there.

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  18. Tejas Rob says:

    You can all thank me later for this, I’ve been up all night making a comprehensive list of the known facts of this shooting, here they are…

    58 people attending an outdoor concert in Las Vegas were shot and killed.

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    • Eskyman says:

      You’ve summed it all up neatly!

      That’s about all we know, which isn’t funny. One other thing just occurred to me: Campos was shot in the leg (at least that’s the story at this moment.)

      BUT we’re told that the Lone Shooter shot 200 rounds to get that one bullet into Campos’ leg; so where are the other 199 bulletholes?

      I haven’t seen any pictures of the hallway showing hundreds of bulletholes. All I’ve seen is the door on its side, which has some bulletholes but not hundreds. Did the carpet get chewed up with bullets? The walls or ceiling? WHERE ARE THE PICTURES?

      We need Columbo with his pocketknife, digging bullets out of the hallway walls; then he can say, “Just one more thing….”

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  19. Ziiggii says:

    “Explanation for everything”

    There’s certainly no shortage of unsubstantiated or factually incorrect stuff to read.

    “I would say that there is a definitely an increase,” said journalist Bethania Palma from Snopes.com, the largest and oldest fact-checking site on the web. “It’s getting multiplied by the internet. It’s a lot more immediate.”

    Snopes.com, which has doubled the size of its editorial staff in the past year or so, has already published fact checks on several false reports from the Las Vegas shooting.

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/conspiracy-crowd-working-overtime-since-las-vegas-shooting/

    fancy that Snopes.com is seen as “reliable”….

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  20. shadowcole says:

    If you want to see the video that shows there were no initial shots coming from the 32nd floor, watch this video.

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  21. Sandra-VA says:

    In the Taxi Cab video, we can clearly hear two different shooters. One was close to the cab and the other more distant. Even the cab driver remarked on this.

    If we go with the original story that Campos was shot by Paddock and thus preventing him from shooting more… this could account for the differences in distance of the shooting. Paddock is firing out of the window, he sees Campos approach and turns his attention in that direction. Thus, clearing up the “two shooter” theory based on the EVIDENCE we have seen from the Cab Driver.

    HOWEVER, the distance from the window to the door would then dash that theory completely.

    So, now we have a new timeline saying that Campos was shot before Paddock began shooting out the window.

    HOWEVER, Mandalay Bay is stating that the new timeline presented by LVPD showing Campos was shot 6 minutes prior to commencement of shooting by Paddock out the window is incorrect and it was actually 40 seconds. Thus, debunked.

    Now we have Campos doing a vanishing act, his employment records are highly suspect, he is being protected by a security guard claiming to work for a company without a business license… and as Laura points out, it is odd that there are no other media camped outside his house.

    So, in my opinion, Campos is likely one of the shooters or a lookout. Maybe he shot himself in the leg after he shot Paddock which accounts for the two shots at end of shooting melee? I am starting to believe that Paddock did not shoot himself….

    I do think there was a 2nd shooter. I cannot be dissuaded from that last because you can clearly discern from video evidence (more than one video) that there was at least one other shooter.

    Ah… a new presser is scheduled for 2pm. Let’s see how they change things this time…

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  22. Ziiggii says:

    First hand account given by Kymberley Suchomel via her FB page (since deleted)

    Can be read here
    https://archive.fo/8cc1M

    But here’s the really crazy thing….
    Vegas shooting survivor, California charity co-founder dies suddenly

    Suchomel, 28, who was not injured during last week’s shooting, died early Monday at her Apple Valley home, according to her grandmother, Julie Norton, the co-founder of the High Desert Phoenix Foundation.

    Norton found Suchomel just after 8:30 a.m. when she arrived to care for her 3-year-old great-granddaughter, Scarlett. She believes Suchomel may have died in her sleep after her husband, Mike, left for work at 4:30 a.m.

    “Kymberley had epilepsy and she’s always been prone to seizures — she told her friend that she recently had three focal seizures,” Norton told the Daily Press. “I believe the stress from the shooting took her life.”

    http://www.seacoastonline.com/zz/news/20171011/vegas-shooting-survivor-california-charity-co-founder-dies-suddenly

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    • bofh says:

      Was Antonin Scalia’s pillow found over her face?

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      My gosh! Her account and now her death is heartbreaking!!! That poor poor girl… 😦

      But, she has left an excellent account of what she observed. One thing sticks out – she wanted to call her husband at 10:07pm – that is 2 minutes after the gunman supposedly began shooting… but based on her account, he had to have started shooting before 10:05pm She and her friends heard the gunfire, they put their boots on, they ran and ran…. that took more than 2 mins.

      She also insists that there were multiple shooters…

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    • deqwik2 says:

      Reading her account & she believes the shooter followed her but she ran towards the airport which means she was in the path of Paddock’s view the whole time she was running.

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    • keebler AC ovfefe says:

      She’s a witness, leaves a “detailed” account, then dies. I’m not believing this tale. No one can now interview her about her claims. After her account gets posted and copied, it gets deleted. There is no Kymberley.

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      • Ziiggii says:

        “There is no Kymberley.”
        WTF!
        Here:
        http://hdphoenixfoundation.com/

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      • Eskyman says:

        Andrew Breitbart’s death was completely natural too, nothing suspicious at all.

        It’s purely a coincidence that he’d been talking about a big revealing expose, which of course never happened. And it’s totally a coincidence that others, like Breitbart’s coroner, also died suddenly of suspected poisoning. Nothing was proved, so it didn’t happen.

        Why doesn’t everyone just believe the Official Narrative ™?

        Of course I believe this poor girl just accidentally passed away, after the stress of all those imaginary things that she thought she saw and experienced. I’m sure her coroner agrees!

        Now move on, nothing to see here!

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  23. 4beagles says:

    ANOTHER LVPD presser, ANOTHER timeline……

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  24. JoD says:

    Press conference…
    Sheriff Lombardo is very defensive and is not providing any substantive info.
    He probably has been told to revise the timeline to agree with MGM to attempt to minimize the hotel’s liability.
    FBI guy …”If you know something, say something.” Meanwhile, he says nothing.
    Sheriff took no questions and while praising the LVMPD, got verklempt.
    Remember…Prolonged confusion and uncertainty will succeed in diminishing interest.
    That’s the plan!!

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  25. rumpole2 says:

    Lombardo opens with a WASTE OF BREATH… pity party about how his “integrity” has been questioned in Cyberspace..

    I HAVE NO PITY… He has spouted CRAP… GET ON WITH IT… and tell the truth!!

    Check in dates: 28th V 25th…… Paddock checked in 25th Danley added to room occupier on 28th

    Autopsy: Done… report of “no abnormalities” based on visual inspection. Brain shipped off for more study

    Timeline: Lombardo .. more self pity over being called incompetent… which he has been!!!!
    Standing by the 9:59 time as time (Campos arrived???), but Campos was shot close to 10:05

    FBI gets a turn..
    MORE “self praise” about how much evidence they have gone through… WHO CARES!!! A TOTAL WASTE OF BREATH!

    Sheriff back… explaining the “Narrative”… more PR about “a 1000 heroes”
    Oh my God… he’s tearing up now…. I think he needs to be replaced with somebody LESS emotional… no wonder we are getting crap

    I WISH these pressers were about FACTS rather than PR and self-aggrandizement and CYA

    NO QUESTIONS!!!! COWARDS!!!

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  26. Molly Pitcher says:

    I missed it but going off the synopsis from yall…
    Nothing about whether they located his van? Was the car he was using a friend’s or rented?
    Nothing about electronic trail?
    Nothing about the autopsy?
    Nothing about ballistics?

    Those are simple questions. Nothing?!

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    • rumpole2 says:

      Yes… except the autopsy got a mention. Brain shipped off for more detailed analysis. Nothing about the fatal wound(s), toxicology etc.

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      • waltherppk says:

        There seems to be a lot of “fog of war” with post traumatic stress after effects going on there in Vegas / so it’s “group hug” time ……no questions.

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        • rumpole2 says:

          Yeah. I guess all the training is out the window? All these agencies training for “the big one” but they all fall to pieces at the first battle.

          A visual inspection of the brain reported as “no brain trauma”?

          Lets hope the “detailed analysis” at least spots the figgin’ great hole! Aullet trail running south to north..

          As we say in the trade :” A traumatic lesion was observed likely resulting from the entry of a foreign object (bullet) at the frontal temporal lobe, traversing at an oblique angle upwards and to the anterior, exiting through the anterior frontal lobe.

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  27. Ziiggii says:

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  28. Harry Lime says:

    Definitely cracking down on independent journalists…Laura Loomer, Jason Goodman, others shut out from presser. Afterwards they tried to ask the PIO (public information officer) questions and were completely shut down and told to leave. Loomer and Goodman repeatedly asked about gun shot residue tests and were repeatedly shut out. NO QUESTIONS means NO ANSWERS!

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    • MM says:

      They have lost control of their narrative. Do you think TPB have figured out we no longer believe their tales they tell?

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      • keebler AC ovfefe says:

        Lombardo is vewwy upset in the news conference that the public doesn’t believe him because central to the narrative is that we believe him.

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    • mimi says:

      The sheriff did say what the reporters can write about. Write about the heroes. Not to imply that the heroic deeds of many are not important but since when does Law Enforcement tell the press what they can investigate and report?

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    • Eskyman says:

      That clip was a lot more informative than the press conference! It shows how afraid the authorities are, that true information will get past their gatekeepers.

      Laura Loomer scared the pants off of them, apparently! They aren’t going to take the chance that the truth may come out, if they allow questions from the public and not just from the #FakeMedia.

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  29. Ziiggii says:

    At a Friday news conference, Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said he stood by his revised timeline of events surrounding the Oct. 1 Strip attack.

    However, he also said he agrees with a statement from MGM Resorts International that raised questions about the new timeline.

    “I’m not in conflict with their statement,” Lombardo said Friday.

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/sheriff-lombardo-says-he-stands-by-new-timeline-of-las-vegas-shooting/

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  30. Ziiggii says:

    “The union doesn’t have any idea where he’s at at this time,” said David Hickey, international president of the International Union, Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America, which represents security guards at Mandalay Bay.

    Hickey said he had been with Campos for the last four days, along with another union member, helping him prepare for media interviews. He said Campos was staying in a Las Vegas-area hotel suite, with a living room and an adjoining bedroom.

    On Thursday at about 1 p.m., Hickey said he and the union’s local president took a meeting with MGM officials in the bedroom, while Campos, the other union member and a security guard hired by MGM to protect Campos waited in the living room.

    At 2 p.m., when Hickey emerged from the meeting, he said Campos and the other people were gone.

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/mandalay-bay-security-guard-skips-tv-interviews-after-las-vegas-shooting/

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    • Ziiggii says:

      FTA:

      In a statement, MGM Resorts International said it had nothing to do with the cancellation.

      “Jesus Campos is a hero who has been credited with saving lives and being a part of interrupting a shooting rampage. MGM Resorts could not be more proud of him,” it said. “The notion that we are in any way preventing him from telling his story is absurd. When it comes to media appearances by Jesus, our only concern has been and will continue to be Jesus.”

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  31. billinlv says:

    Re: point number 7… Paddock had a total of 23 guns in his room at Mandalay Bay. It is my understanding that all but one were long guns. The presence of nearly 2 dozen guns (and sufficient ammo) is the primary reason for the multiple shooter theory.
    Re: point number 9…the DOJ, FBI, etc. are not under the control of Sessions/Trump. It appears that the de facto AG is Renegade Robert Mueller. Given the fact that the NSA eavesdrops on vast amounts of data/voice transmissions, I wonder if they are in possession of any relevant information?

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