Sunday Talks: Secretary Rex Tillerson -vs- Chris Wallace

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson appears on Fox News Sunday with guardian and gate-keeper of the swamp Chris Wallace.

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[Transcript] QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, welcome back to Fox News Sunday.

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Pleased to be here, Chris.

QUESTION: Before we get to foreign affairs, I want to ask you as a native son of Texas and as the former chairman of and CEO of ExxonMobil your thoughts about Hurricane Harvey and especially the impact it’s having in the oil and gas sector there on the Gulf coast.

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Chris, you’re correct; my wife and I are both native Texans. We still make our home in Texas, and our families are all in Texas. We have many, many friends, family that are in the affected areas, and both her and mine’s thoughts and prayers go out to those that are affected. Over 12 million is what I understand now in the state of Texas are being impacted.

I think with respect to the response the state of Texas and Governor Abbott are doing a remarkable job dealing with an ongoing event, and I think it’s important that people understand and recognize this is an ongoing event that they’re dealing with. President Trump has convened an all-cabinets meeting yesterday, and we’re going to have another one later this morning, to ensure that all agencies are doing everything they can to support the state of Texas in its response.

Now, with respect to the oil and gas industry, they have been through this many, many times. They are probably among the most prepared for these types of events. So they do a lot of pre-staging of capability, but there will be challenges that are created by a storm of this magnitude and a storm that’s going to last as long as this one is. I am confident that they will respond though capably, and the government agencies have facilitated that with some early action as well.

QUESTION: All right, let’s turn to your day job. North Korea fired three short-range missiles on Friday. What message do you think the Kim regime is sending?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Well, the firing of any ballistic missile is a violation of UN Security Council resolutions, and we do view it as a provocative act, a provocative act against the United States and our allies. And we continue to want the Kim regime to understand there is a different path that he can choose. The international community has been quite clear with the unanimous 15 to nothing approval of the UN Security Council resolution imposing the most stringent sanctions ever to be imposed on North Korea. There is also a unified international voice echoing our messages that no one wants to see a nuclear Korean Peninsula. So we are all unified in our mission to see a denuclearized Korean Peninsula. We hope for the opportunity to engage with them as to how we might achieve that.

QUESTION: This week, both – before the missile test, both you and the President suggested that Kim might be backing off of his missile program. Here both of you are:

“Kim Jong-un – I respect the fact that I believe he is starting to respect us.”

“I am pleased to see that the regime in Pyongyang has certainly demonstrated some level of restraint that we’ve not seen in the past.”

Were both of you wrong about Kim?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Well, I don’t know that we’re wrong, Chris. I think it’s going to take some time to tell. This type of a launch again is a violation of UN Security Council resolutions, so it is – clearly, they’re still messaging us as well that they are not prepared to completely back away from their position.

Having said that, we’re going to continue our peaceful pressure campaign, as I have described it, working with allies, working with China as well, to see if we can bring the regime in Pyongyang to the negotiating table with a view to begin a dialogue on a different future for the Korean Peninsula and for North Korea.

QUESTION: President Trump pledged this week to fight and win in Afghanistan, and I want to play a clip from his speech on Monday:

“Conditions on the ground, not arbitrary timetables, will guide our strategy from now on.”

Mr. Secretary, how open-ended is that commitment? How many troops is the President prepared to send to Afghanistan? How long is he prepared to keep them there?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: I think the President’s been clear, Chris, that this is a dramatic shift in terms of the military strategy. We’re shifting from a time-based military strategy that had very clear troop ceiling levels to now, as he indicated, a conditions-based strategy, which means it will be dictated by conditions on the ground informed by battlefield commanders. He has also delegated significant authority to Secretary Mattis to set troop levels but also has been able to delegate further to military commanders in the field decision making to begin to turn the tide against the Taliban. I think we all recognize that for the past couple of years the Taliban has been advancing and Afghan forces have been unable to push them back. So there will be a definite change in military tactics on the ground.

Now, all of this is directed at sending a message to the Taliban that we are not going anywhere; we’re going to be here, we’re going to continue to fight for the Afghan Government, support the Afghan Security Forces. And what needs to happen is the Taliban needs to engage with the Afghan Government in a process of reconciliation and developing a way to govern the country in the future.

QUESTION: But the point I guess I’m trying to get at is, when you say that they – you’re going to be there until they get that message, is that an open-ended commitment? Are you saying whatever the President’s view is, whatever it takes?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: The President was clear that he’s not setting any arbitrary timelines, he’s not committing to any deadlines. He did in his speech though, you’ll recall, say that our patience is not unlimited, our time is not unlimited. So I think what the President has indicated —

QUESTION: He was talking about that in terms of the Afghan Government.

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Correct. And I think what the President has indicated is we are not going to set arbitrary deadlines; we are going to monitor the conditions on the ground, and our decisions will be formed around the progress on the ground.

QUESTION: There’s also the question of how this administration defines victory in Afghanistan. And you and the President talked about that in somewhat different terms. Here you both are:

“Attacking our enemies, obliterating ISIS, crushing al-Qaida, preventing the Taliban from taking over Afghanistan, and stopping mass terror attacks against America before they emerge.”

“This entire effort is intended to put pressure on the Taliban to have the Taliban understand you will not win a battlefield victory. We may not win one, but neither will you.”

So Mr. Secretary, which is it? Is it obliterating al-Qaida and ISIS, or is it just getting the Taliban to the negotiating table?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Well, the war against ISIS is quite clear, Chris, and the President’s been clear that we will defeat ISIS. We will eliminate ISIS’ capability to organize, to raise financing, to plan, recruit new recruits to their fight to carry out terrorism acts throughout the world. That fight is progressing quite well. We are well on our way to defeating ISIS and we have now taken their caliphate from them in Iraq. Over 70 percent of the territory has been recovered. None of it has been lost back to those forces. Almost 2 million displaced Iraqi people have now returned to their homes. In the fight in Syria, we’re in the process of liberating Raqqa, which was their self-designated capital. That liberation is going quite well, and it’s our expectation that we will defeat ISIS in Syria and Iraq, and then our effort is global to ensure that ISIS does not re-emerge elsewhere.

Now, all terrorist organizations have somewhat different objectives. So whether it’s ISIS, al-Qaida, the Taliban or others, our objective is deny any terrorist organization any territory with which they can organize, raise financing, recruit new fighters, develop techniques for carrying out terrorist acts and then deploying those. We know that if we deny them the space to do that, we protect the homeland; we also protect Americans and our allies as well.

So in the case of Afghanistan, Afghanistan has a history of being a refuge for some of the most devastating attacks carried out. As we all know, the attack of 9/11 was organized and carried out from Afghanistan. So on Afghanistan, we have to secure Afghanistan in a way that that can never occur again because there is no territory available to organizations to do so.

QUESTION: Sebastian Gorka, one of the President’s spokesmen on foreign policy, was fired on Friday just following the firing of Steve Bannon. And some folks are saying that this is, particularly on the right – further to the right, I should say – are saying that this a victory of the globalists – and they include you in that group – over the so-called America Firsters. Sebastian Gorka, in his resignation letter to the President, wrote this about the Afghanistan speech:

“The fact that those who drafted and approved the speech removed any mention of radical Islam or radical Islamic terrorism proves that a crucial element of your presidential campaign has been lost.”

Is Gorka right?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: No, I think he’s completely wrong, Chris, and I think it shows a lack of understanding of the President’s broader policy when it comes to protecting Americans at home and abroad from all acts of terrorism. Terrorism, as we’ve said, manifests itself in many types of organizations. The President has charged us to develop policies and tactics both diplomatically and militarily to attack terrorism in its many forms wherever it exists in the world and wherever it might present a threat to the homeland or to Americans anywhere. This means that we have to develop techniques that are global in their nature. All we want is to ensure that terrorists do not have the capability to organize and carry out attacks.

QUESTION: So what do you make of this division between America Firsters and so-called globalists?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: I don’t see any division, Chris. I think it’s a question of tactics and how you achieve those objectives. I think the President has been clear in his speech on Afghanistan that we are not undertaking nation building. So we will be shifting our diplomatic and aid and development programs as well to coincide with the President’s view that the Afghan Government and the Afghan people must own their form of government and they must come to some reconciliation with all ethnic groups, including the Taliban, as to how they can secure their country as a peaceful country, one that does not support terrorism, does not provide safe haven for terrorists, and does not align itself with any terrorist organizations or countries that do. That’s what winning looks like.

QUESTION: Finally – and I’ve got a little over a minute left – the controversy over the racial protests in Charlottesville and the President’s response to it has become an international issue. A UN committee this week criticized the Trump administration for, quote, “its failure at the highest political level to unequivocally reject and condemn the racist violent events and demonstrations.” And here was the President in Phoenix this week talking more about the media than he was about the neo-Nazis and the Klan. Here he is:

“The only people giving a platform to these hate groups is the media itself and the fake news.”

Does that make it harder for you to push American values around the world when some foreign leaders question the President’s values?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Chris, we express America’s values from the State Department. We represent the American people. We represent America’s values, our commitment to freedom, our commitment to equal treatment of people the world over, and that message has never changed.

QUESTION: And when the President gets into the kind of controversy he does and the UN committee responds the way it does, it seems to say they begin to doubt our – whether we’re living those values.

SECRETARY TILLERSON: I don’t believe anyone doubts the American people’s values or the commitment of the American Government or the government’s agencies to advancing those values and defending those values.

QUESTION: And the President’s values?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: The President speaks for himself, Chris.

QUESTION: Are you separating yourself from that, sir?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: I’ve spoken – I’ve made my own comments as to our values as well in a speech I gave to the State Department this past week.

QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, thank you. Thanks for coming today. Always a pleasure to talk with you, sir.

SECRETARY TILLERSON: My pleasure, Chris.

QUESTION: Stay safe and let’s hope those folks and friends, family in Texas stay safe.

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Keep them in your prayers.

QUESTION: Yep. You bet.

(Transcript Link)

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232 Responses to Sunday Talks: Secretary Rex Tillerson -vs- Chris Wallace

  1. parteagirl says:

    Thank you so much for posting the transcript!

    Liked by 18 people

    • fleporeblog says:

      I hope SD can do so from now on with all the Sunday shows except Maria B. It makes it bearable to read and not to have to listen to his condescending voice.

      As usual TREX was fantastic! After reading his response to Gorka’s comments, I am actually happy that he is gone. Our President will never ever abandon America First to no one. Our President is on a mission and there is no one going to stop it in his administration. Including his daughter and son-in-law who I respect.

      NK decided to fire three missiles and China 🇨🇳 will be crying 😭 this week when sanctions are taken on their banks. Some people only learn the hard way!

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      • Ditch Mitch says:

        Fle, I don’t watch/listen to any of the Sunday Circus. I wait a few hours and get the key points with analysis from sites like CTH and commenters. I take it Maria is the exception, and I would agree. I record Maria’s daily show and select what to watch. She is a good egg.

        I read the T-Rex transcript Sundance provided and T-Rex was spot on, no gotcha from Chrissy. I wish T-Rex would have refuted Chrissy’s claim Gorka and Bannon were fired, however as they resigned and both have stated they will continue to support PDJT’s America First agenda.

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    • Clydeen says:

      I love the transcripts as well ! I’m curious though, I see questions and answers but where is Rude Interruption with current buzzword or Rude Interruption with “when did you stop beating your wife” type question. Is Chrissy more respectful because T-Rex is an alpha male? There were leading questions so maybe Chrissy knows to keep that junk with KAC or someone similar.

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    • TheWanderingStar says:

      Does anyone have a transcript or video of Rex’s speech to the State Department last week? I found the press briefing of 22-Aug but wasn’t able to locate his speech to the department.

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  2. DanDeplorable says:

    Sebastian Gorka, in his resignation letter to the President, wrote this about the Afghanistan speech:

    “The fact that those who drafted and approved the speech removed any mention of radical Islam or radical Islamic terrorism proves that a crucial element of your presidential campaign has been lost.”

    Is Gorka right?

    SECRETARY TILLERSON: No, I think he’s completely wrong…
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    Won’t equivocate about this: I think Gorka is completely right.

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    • joshua says:

      Gorka is in the Bannon doo doo right now….smart guy, but fails to see long range plan of Trump….same with most commentators bloviating about what Trump does…..

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    • Just a quick reminder, Dan, that Trump is POTUS and EVERYBODY else is staff. Gorka served a staff slot and is now out to pursue other opportunities. Let’s see where this leads him … and what he says about it, apart from this really stupid statement.

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    • B says:

      He’s a Bannonite. Bannonites are brainwashers of conservatives who fear monger and deceive to make people expect the unreasonable and unlikely and make unity and cohesiveness impossible. Trump had to make a choice between keeping on people who he needs to get his agenda passed even if he doesn’t agree with them 100% or keep the antagonists who think Trump ran on a far right platform and only want him to be the president of right wing purists. I trust Trump….Nobody else.

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    • Joshuatree says:

      I would like to see the ACTUAL resignation letter before getting caught up in this propaganda

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    • Sunshine says:

      Gorka’s expertise is Islam and not Foreign Relations. He is not an International Strategist.
      All these Islamic countries are Radical Islam, ruled by strict Sharia Law. You don’t shoot them down by pointing the arrow straight towards their heart.

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      • formerdem says:

        I like your point. Once about thirty years ago a disgruntled fired employee at one of our huge observatories burst into the telescope room with a gun, ordered everyone to stand aside, and fired straight down the tube into the telescope. When he was gone, they just got back to work, because that is not the way to destroy a telescope. they lost a few percent of light, is all He just did not understand telescopes. Likewise strategy. Pointing a gun and firing straight ahead can be compleeeeetely irrelevant.

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    • mimbler says:

      Yes, and what Secretary Tillerson said did not refute Gorka’s claim, he just started spinning.

      I actually like both Gorka and Tillerson. Probably neither is totally right nor wrong on this issue,

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    • With all due respect I don’t think eradicating Islam is our mission in Afghanistan. When POTUS used that term before it was for vetting migrants to the US and to describe ISIS.

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    • M33 says:

      He should say Radical Islamic Terrorist and Domestic Liberal Terrorists.
      Catchem all!

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    • BebeTarget says:

      When Trump negotiates he concedes something the other person values. Saying ‘terrorist’ rather than ‘Radical Islamic Terrorist’ doesn’t bother me in the least. The way he spoke about TERRORISTS, I and everyone I know, knew what he meant. The RoE issue was quite predominant which tells me POTUS valued the input of those soldiers he spoke to who served in Afghanistan. A good leader will consider the opinions of those closest to the situation.
      Mattis’ comments prior to the Afghanistan speech spoke volumes. “Rigorous dialogue” to me says ‘there was a lot of disagreement’ . . . . .
      I thought POTUS’ speech was wonderful and fit his agenda.

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    • Vince says:

      What the president speaks about and the words he uses can change, without him becoming a RINO or changing his strategy. He said a lot of things in the campaign, like declaring China a currency manipulator, that were clearly stated as a way of opening up negotiating points.

      His first trip to the Middle East was wildly successful, and the Middle East has been working to fight radical Islamic terrorism. The battle with ISIS is making great gains. So at this point, does it help or hurt these new alliances to keep pounding the radical islam theme when clearly a lot of positive things have happened? Or is it better to soften the rhetoric a bit?

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    • llyod says:

      I think people are in too much of a hurry. It took us many decades to get here. The global economic system is entrenched in many ways to the globalists agenda and Trump must maneuver many pieces 1st to be in place before the attack so the establishment will have no moves left. The establishment has only one play left in my opinion (false flag) but it’s too risky with Trump in charge. Remember Trump is versed in Sun Tzu “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”

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    • cozette says:

      I believe Gorka is so focused on HIS issue which is the threat of radicalized Islam that he is missing the importance of President Trumps shift to confront ALL forms of terrorism which threaten our nation and much of the world ie. Marxist inspired groups like Antifa and BLM. President Trump and T Rex have the proper big picture vision and are trying to expand the publics thinking to include these groups as terrorist threats that are just as dangerous to America and the West as the one posed by Islamic terrorists. I love Gorka but ideologues tend to be myopic. Thankfully President Trump and his Cabinet aren’t.

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  3. joshua says:

    had to turn it off when Trex finished giving Wallace the education that Wallace needed but fails to comprehend. With Rove and Juan Idiot on the “panel”….it went off immediately…I refuse to watch any Fox program with either of them on the program…..along with The Specialists with Eboni talkstoofast and the Stringyblond with kooky glasses….

    Fox has gone to hell.

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    • RedBallExpress says:

      Up next week. “Who makes the best pickups – Ford or Chevy?”

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    • linda4298 says:

      the media is having a field day with tillerson not backing up the President.

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      • trialbytruth says:

        Gee I missed that are we watching the same interview?

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        • carole says:

          I didn’t miss it. I thought it stood out like a sore thumb. Rex was very good up till that point. Very disappointed in him on that 😦

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          • trialbytruth says:

            Well one thing for certain here band the open thread are full of Tillerson concerns

            I suppose he is the next one the left have decided to try to separate from Trump. Good luck with that and why does then left like China so much ….Oh wait they are not the left they are the stooges for Fascist Globalist ….tool on toolers

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          • deanbrh says:

            That’s interesting that you take the position that T-Rex wasn’t backing the President in the last volley with Chris. To me, it was Rex saying, We both speak for ourselves and you aren’t going to have the luxury of trolling me into your foolish trap, Chris.

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          • dalethorn says:

            My personal take on it is that Tillerson said in effect to CW “We have individual opinions at the White House, and Trump carefully weighs each of our opinions before making a decision.” But of course the media only hears *different* opinions, and therefore misses the message of how things come together.

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          • cozette says:

            I totally disagree with those upset that “Tillerson did not defend the President.” He handled it perfectly. He said that the President speaks for himself ie. he does not need defending by Tillerson or anyone else. To trick someone into “defending” the President is a Leftist trap. Tillerson avoided it.

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        • linda4298 says:

          Brit Hume‏Verified account
          @brithume

          Rex Tillerson, asked by Chris Wallace if the President’s speaks for American values on race, “The President speaks for himself.” Whoa.

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      • Bert Darrell says:

        The media is really dead! They will try to have a “field day” with anything they don’t like. Who cares? The President has the last word on policy matters and PDJT has spoken clearly about his approach to deny terrorists the chance to organize. Nothing Sec. Tillerson said in the Wallace interview changes this fact. Any controversy, whether derived from a Dr. Gorka remark or any fake media comments have no significance. We all have opinions but the President is responsible for policy making.

        One more thing. Isn’t it a solid fact the the President speaks for himself? So, what’s the nonsense about a disagreement. I never heard that cabinet members did not have the freedom or leeway to use their own words. They are free USA citizens, not subservient parrots. In the ;last 8 years we’ve had plenty of evidence about the damage that subservient parrots of a dishonest president can do to the country.

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        • jmclever says:

          This is simply the two part NeverTrumper underground a little more covertly trying to undermine Trump and the MAGA agenda by first, starting the rumor that his cabinet does not agree with him, and second, using concern that the MAGA agenda is being usurped by globalists.
          All these NeverTrumper fake MAGA agenda concern operatives need to do is call someone loyal to the agenda a globalist and fair weather Trump supporters and uninformed supporters turn against that person no matter what the accomplishments.

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      • Joshuatree says:

        I’m not going to piss on the man for one line! Even people in the Trump admin dont need to have the same exact views! Media propoganda just like the way they hang onto everyone of Trumps words!

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        • dutzie60 says:

          I don’t see where he said anything wrong. What the heck was wrong with saying President Trump speaks for himself? Was Tillerson suppose to get in some heated conversation trying to defend something that needs no defending. I think he ended the interview right there because Swamp Mouth couldn’t say anything else.
          I’m beginning to feel like suspicious cat about all of the posts berating everything and everyone in PT’s cabinet. I’m waiting for Willburine to be asked some dumbass question about Charlottesville and boy, if he doesn’t say the “correct” thing, he’s done kick him out.
          Tired of it! /rant off

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      • Steven Tyler says:

        Good, let the fool media chase that rabbit.
        Meanwhile, in the real world, we hunt and kill ISIS, secure mining deals, sent the raw materials to India or US for processing into finished goods, put another roadblock in China’s plans, and cancel orders placed with Chinese manufacturers.

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        • dalethorn says:

          China created the problem of North Korea during the Communist revolution of China under Chairman Mao. Now that capitalism has been rescuing China from poverty and irrelevance for a couple of decades, the North Korea thing has become a serious problem for China, and their leaders are in a quandry – lose face and dump NK, compromise somehow, or commit suicide. One of the things that makes the MSM so deadly and so traitorous here in the U.S. is they give the Chinese leaders a false hope that they can use our MSM to get more leverage for North Korea. And the MSM isn’t doing what they do by accident.

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          • pyromancer76 says:

            I like your analysis. “Capitalism,” as they envision it, “has been rescuing China….” Now they have a great big choice to continue toward the capitalism that saved them or turn back to the nasty totalitarianism that almost destroyed them and for which they use NorKs to continue — so it isn’t lost. Ahhh…sentimentality. Mao, we hardly knew ye. (How many millions dead? How many millions Norks dead or in slavery?)

            President’s Trump’s MAGA gives the Chinese an opporfunity to join in for their future too. Too bad our MSM gives the totalitarians false hopes like dalethorn suggests.

            Big choices ahead.

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      • Yes, they got him now!
        /S

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  4. A UN committee this week criticized the Trump administration for, quote, “its failure at the highest political level to unequivocally reject and condemn the racist violent events and demonstrations.”

    A UN Committee? What committee was that?

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  5. andyocoregon says:

    I didn’t turn on Fox News Sunday today until about the last 20 minutes of the program only to see Karl Rove, Juan Williams, Josh Holmes (former Mitch McConnell Chief of Staff) and Catherine Lucey of the A.P. discussing President Trump’s pardon of Joe Arpaio. Everyone, including Chris Wallace of course, was criticizing P.T.’s pardon except (surprise!) Catherine Lucey. It was extremely disappointing to see so-called Republicans bash the President for his righteous decision and I was elated to see the rest of that show get pre-empted by a FoxNews Live Update on the hurricane in Texas.
    If I wanted to see strong criticism of our President’s policies, I’d watch CNN or MSNBC. I’ve joined those who now despise FoxNews for their left wing tilt.

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    • linda4298 says:

      Remember all those panels criticizing all of Obamas commutations. Neither do I.

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    • starshollow88 says:

      Josh Holmes has disgusted me but is a true young swamp creature to watch. He went from defending and standing with the President (Fox had him on a lot during that surprisingly) then turning on him after Trump spoke on McConnell and C-ville (his true self no doubt) he took the pile-on to another level and he gave an awful interview. Well Fox loves him even more now. He has these soulless, creepy, salesman swamp eyes. lol Don’t trust him one bit.

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    • dalethorn says:

      The MSM focused entirely on technicalities such as the “contempt of court” charge against Arpaio. They wouldn’t have listened to a breakdown of the underlying issues no matter what.

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  6. NJF says:

    Or out another way, the POTUS doesn’t take your crap Chris.

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  7. Publius2016 says:

    In reading the transcript, it is very clear that the President’s America First agenda continues. The idea that TRex would be less than diplomatic is of course insane. As directed from the President, TRex has a specific job to do and is getting it done.

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  8. freddy says:

    What a panel old Chris compiled there. Every Trump basher he could find including the most despicable person on FOX old Juan Williams………Did Tillerson disrespect the POTUS like it sounded to me with …He speaks for himself comment……The assault on America is fully on now. The RINOS have pulled off their costumes to reveal who they really are……..Prepare to fight.

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    • carole says:

      I was bothered by Rex’s reply: the President speaks for himself’ That was an opportunity to back up PTrump, and Rex very pointedly did not do it. Not too happy about that. The rest was good.

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      • Bert Darrell says:

        You are agreeing with a false argument raised by the fake media, Carole. That the President speaks for himself is a fact that nobody can deny. Sec. Tillerson did not say that he opposed the president in any way, shape or form, and nobody should put words in his mouth.

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        • dutzie60 says:

          Bert, I agree and ranted about that upthread. Maybe I should have posted it here. I’m just sick and tired of all the stupid verbal crap that goes on constantly. The MSM just waits to pounce on anything said and it seems some here pick up the mantra.

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        • mimbler says:

          I admit, it bothered me when I heard that comment, but in hindsight, it was the quickest way to shut down that line of question.

          Had Tillerson taken the bait, and spoke in support of PDJT, he would have just opened up the whole Charlottesville debate for Chris,

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        • carole says:

          Bert: Just to set the record straight here: My reaction to SoS Tillerson’s comment came from ME. I had not yet heard that the ‘media’ was saying anything about it nor had I read yet what anybody at CTH was saying. It just threw up a red flag for me. I am a complete supporter of President Trump and I want to see his appointed cabinet members back him up. He stands alone enough already. However, that is MY take and obviously not yours. We shall agree to disagree.

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    • jmclever says:

      Any time a cabinet member appears on a talk show and includes the interviewer’s name in the response, it is a subtle form of disarming them and putting them in their place. T-Rex said, “The President speaks for himself, Chris.” What he was really communicating was IMHO “Cut the crap, Chris, We all know you’re full of it.”

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      • jeb71 says:

        Has anyone else noticed that “the President speaks for himself” is consistently used by anyone who is a supporter or answering questions at pressers? I’ve noticed it several times during interviews, enough to believe they’ve all been instructed to say it whenever there’s controversy over his tweets or speeches.

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  9. Mike diamond says:

    T-Rex is right on!!!! Chris Wallace is hard to listen to very long!!! And Kim the un dude is getting more fat ! He is a cheese head!!!!

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  10. Sundance, I see Rex Tillerson in the painting, Sheriff Clarke, VP Pence, Mattis (in a suit) and I believe David Shulkin off to the side. Is there any description that names the people standing with POTUS and do you see any significance to those chosen? I can’t find Wilber Ross, Mnchin or several other stalwarts.

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    • joshua says:

      it’s a PAINTING….who cares?

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      • If you don’t care, feel free not to read any replies. Usually Sundance chooses the accompanying images to add context and has insight that is left for the reader to tease out.

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      • Nigella says:

        Actually I do..

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      • Randy says:

        Joshua. Is your culture obtained from a petri dish??That painting will be worth mega-millions in 100 years. The lack of respect for artists and their works, one of the true edifications of humanity and of it’s highest expression is also in the destruction of monuments. It is really in show in the ‘modern art’ industry of miasma and misconfiguration. Seems your drooldonkeyhood is in full display in the comments section today..Loser.

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        • joshua says:

          ok…all…my comment was not about art….I have a son that is a artist….my comment was trying to use a painting to interpret the political meaning in the context of the Trump administration….and I find that like reading a comic book to interpret the Bible. My comment is mine, I stand by it, and I have been an avid CTH person for more years than most of you have enjoyed internet. cool down folks….

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    • woohoowee says:

      Sheriff Clarke covering Trump45’s back was one of the first things I noticed about the painting when Sundance posted a thread about it the other day. So very fitting. Gotta start saving b/c it would be nice to have the whole series of prints 🙂

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      • You Are Not Forgotten – New Trump Painting – Jon McNaughton

        When I decided to paint this picture, I wondered if this was taking it too far. But, sometimes you have to speak forcefully, like the brushstrokes of my painting. Many Americans have felt forgotten by the establishment in Washington. I’m talking about the people who are more interested in themselves, and their political careers.

        How many veterans have been neglected? How many of our police officers have been marginalized? How many families are suffering because of poor healthcare, limited opportunities, and government intrusion?

        Last year we elected President Trump. He expressed by his words and demeanor what Americans wanted – a man who was not going to bow down to Washington or other countries. A man that would not forget the “forgotten men and women” of this country who elected him.

        I want a president that will crush the enemies of liberty, justice, and American prosperity.
        They may have the power to bruise his heel, but he will have the power to crush their head!

        *** If you are wondering about the meaning behind Trump stepping on the snake – for me it represents that he will crush the enemies of liberty, justice, and American prosperity. It is an allusion to Genesis 3:15, where in my opinion, God tells Adam that him and his posterity will suffer under Satan, but have the ability to triumph through Christ.

        Available at: http://JonMcNaughton.com

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  11. SECRETARY TILLERSON: I don’t believe anyone doubts the American people’s values or the commitment of the American Government or the government’s agencies to advancing those values and defending those values.

    QUESTION: And the President’s values?

    SECRETARY TILLERSON: The President speaks for himself, Chris.

    I find this disturbing. Can someone please reassure me on this. It would seem Rex is someone who thought that the presidents statements on this issue were not American values.

    Very disappointed.

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    • Reaching… IMO. Tillerson was completely right not to speak for the President. Its a real stretch to suggest this implies anything about the POTUS values, CM’s tongue was hanging out looking for a way to attack the President and opening that door by accepting the invitation to speak for POTUS would have given CM a great opportunity to smear & bash.

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    • joshua says:

      thin skinned. Tillerson speaks for himself as he SHOULD as SofS.

      Only way to answer a Chris Wallace set up question….leave them guessing.

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      • dekester says:

        Exactly..as there would have been a follow up B.S. question. Then an analysis of that..ad nauseam.

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      • woohoowee says:

        It doesn’t even leave them guessing, does it? Trump45 has been *very* clear with his statements. TRex responded just right.

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        • carole says:

          woo: You’ve made a very clear point here. President Trump HAS been very clear with his statements. But Tillerson did NOT say that. He should have, imo. I know many Treepers take this as nit-picking, but it is right up there with Gen Kelly telling the WH staff they were to put country first and then the president. No. They work for the president who definitely is putting the country first. Kelly’s statement troubled me a lot. Same with Tillerson today. These may be innocent errors, but I just want to see President Trump supported by his closest appointees.

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    • Mickie says:

      I found Tillersons answer disturbing as well.

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    • Guy K. says:

      It’s not disturbing to me. It’s shady, slimy Chris Wallace trying to stir the sh!t and incite an internecine cabinet war, and Tillerson not giving him the satisfaction.

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    • carole says:

      I found this disturbing as well, takea… He was distancing himself from the President there. I don’t like it.

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      • Nigella says:

        Seriously? The President should speak for himself… It was the correct answer…

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        • carole says:

          Of course the President speaks for himself. But Tillerson, in evading the direct question as to whether he agreed with POTUS, implied that he does not. Why did the insufferable Wallace not harp on him for saying that? Because that is exactly what Wallace wanted to hear — Tillerson essentially saying he does not necessarily agree with the President. President Trump is very careful with his words. He uses an economy of words and they all mean something. Treepers who are chastising those of us who know words matter…think again. They do.

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    • singingsoul says:

      Does not the state department come under POTUS..? Tillerson taking direction from him thereof Tillerson needs to speak in one voice with POYUS for the American people.
      What Tillerson said sounds as if he is isolating Trump ?
      Maybe they all have gone rogue..? Tillerson sounds like rogue secretary of state. For home does he work..?

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    • No offense but you seem easily disturbed

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    • NC PATRIOT says:

      It was a way for T-Rex to SHUT CHRIS DOWN !

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    • TheWanderingStar says:

      I would not be surprised if Rex and Trump had a discussion about what should be said, and the response Rex provided was probably word for word what the President suggested – “The President speaks for himself…”. I can just hear PDJT, let them come as me.

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  12. What an asinine thing for him to say at the end…that really shakes my confidence in him. Why is it so hard for these people to just support their boss…disgusting.

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    • joshua says:

      geeeze what a bunch of snowflakes on the CTH today….stiffen up folks….Trex is cool, PDJT is Cool…Fox sucks like CNN sucks. nothing else.

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      • abstain says:

        The troll talking points go with the Sunday interview questions, so the branches will be full of low hanging fruit.

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      • Guy K. says:

        Snowflakes, or coordinated trolls?

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        • carole says:

          Guy: I am neither a snowflake or a troll. I’ve been commenting here at CTH for a few years. Regardless of how Wallace would have responded, the Secretary of State should have backed up President Trump instead of distancing himself with that wimpy ‘the President speaks for himself’ translated: the president does not speak for me nor I for him — in other words, Tillerson does not agree with the president. It’s that simple. Stop labelling people who are alert to discrepancies you miss.

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          • Guy K. says:

            Carole, I wasn’t calling you out specifically, but I was pointing out that there is a predictable pattern of commenters expressing excessive concern that seem to come out of the woodwork after every change in staff personnel or after every Sunday morning show. I recognize your name, yes, but there are plenty of others whose names I do not recognize who seem to “mobilize” with predictable synchronicity in times like these.

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            • carole says:

              Guy: thanks for your response. I rarely disagree with what the majority of Treepers say because these kinds of arguments always result and people who disagree with the majority end up being called trolls. And so I took your comment to include me. I do wish we could feel more free to express our honest opinions on CTH and have civilized discussions, but that doesn’t happen often here. Most people don’t want to ‘rock the boat’ and be called names for doing so, me included.

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          • George True says:

            Carol: Tillerson didn’t NOT back him up. When I read that comment in the transcript, I automatically took it to mean, “You already know where President Trump stands on this. He certainly doesn’t need me or anyone else to speak for him.”

            This is a tempest in a teapot. And as others have said, it is an attempt by the leftist weasel Wallace to create a controversy where none exists.

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            • carole says:

              George, you make a good point. A lot of people have seen it the way you have. I don’t happen to be one of them. Not sure why people have such disparate views of the same thing. Background? Experience? Who knows. It’s an interesting phenomenon We all agree we want the best support for President Trump, that is a fact.

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          • starshollow88 says:

            Some on the Trump train attack like to push, attack and name-call other supporters that don’t think like them and it’s getting disconcerting in my opinion. They are vicious at times, fearful, and lash out at the wrong people. Calling people trolls or that it’s coordinated lol. I’ve seen people defend some of his cabinet members more than they defend Trump, I’ve seen them twist themselves to defend people not siding with the President for some reason. It happened to me during the Sessions complaints and I had to take a break from some sites. Not everything is some crisis but some stuff is very important to take note of.

            Speaking for myself, I can understand people being disappointed in America 1st people leaving (like Bannon, Gorka) but they publicly always defended and stood with Trump even when they were getting smeared and called awful names. They had the spine and strength to do that not fold like we see when others lets say more in the establishment/swamp side are pushed (Sessions recusing, Tillerson piling on, Cohn’s interview and piling on).

            We are not concern trolls but truly want people that get, love, respect and defend our President and America 1st agenda without distractions. Is that so hard for others to comprehend? There’s no room or ammo to give to the opposition. If you are willing to do so publicly, what else are you doing behind his back? Tillerson was awful in his answer, asking to be fired if I am being honest (and there was that article a few weeks back saying he might resign). And it’s not just anti-Trump people talking about it. Most truly pro-Trump people were beyond angered by his betrayal of an answer today. I trust Trump, but he can’t control others. Tillerson lost me almost completely today. It looked like he wanted and was waiting to give this answer, not a surprise question to him.

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            • dalethorn says:

              I never got close to angered, let alone beyond angered. The only possibility I can see for disappointment turning to anger over Tillerson rejecting Wallace’s bait is this: Too many Trump supporters are giving too much credence to the MSM as though they ask honest questions. The question was NOT honest. My suggestion is for people to realize they’ve been heavily gaslighted by the MSM, and they need to wind it down. Don’t forget how clever the Devil was in tempting Jesus with trick questions. That story never changes.

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          • billygoat65 says:

            In other words? No, in your words. TRex never said he didn’t agree with the President. What he “should” have said is your opinion.

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          • dalethorn says:

            The point I see here in the bigger picture is how Tillerson anticipated what Wallace was doing, and Tillerson shut him down. I think you’ll see that eventually, because if Tillerson or any other official falls for the bait, they automatically lose the upper hand. Tillerson is a master at this – I stand in awe.

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          • NC PATRIOT says:

            wrong—we all know the President speaks his own mind—in his way ! T-Rex is the DIPLOMAT. PDJT is our leader–and cheerleader. No one else says things like he does, in his own language. He speaks for himself ! That shut Wallace up. Like putting an exclaimation point at the end of the interview.

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        • Bert Darrell says:

          Both

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      • Dennis Leonard says:

        Actually Josh,it is like chicken little running around yelling the sky is falling.It takes one one or two trolls to get it going.

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        • Guy K. says:

          “Actually Josh,it is like chicken little running around yelling the sky is falling.It takes one one or two trolls to get it going.”
          THIS.
          And it happens every damn day around here, like clockwork.

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          • carole says:

            “Actually Josh,it is like chicken little running around yelling the sky is falling.It takes one one or two trolls to get it going.”
            THIS.
            And it happens every damn day around here, like clockwork.

            Does it, Guy? I rarely see anybody disagree with the party line majority opinion Rah Rah cheerleaders here at CTH. Heaven forfend we should have an actual intelligent discussion about something over which some of us hold a difference of opinion. and maybe even find common ground by so doing. Thank God that is not how President Donald J. Trump operates!

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            • andrewalinxs says:

              You here and around enough to check…. seems their is at least someone right?

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            • Bert Darrell says:

              Sorry to disagree, Carole. There is nothing intelligent or not intelligent about saying I don’t like this or that. It’s just an opinion -as you said- and anybody can agree or disagree with it.

              You didn’t like Sec. Tillerson stating the obvious (that PDJT speaks for himself)? OK, we read it. Let’s move on now.

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              • carole says:

                Bert. You’re right I did say (as I recall) that I didn’t like what Tillerson said. And yes, it is my opinion that his statement made him sound that he did not agree with POTUS on that issue. All I can say at this point is that ‘We’ll see what happens.’ Tillerson was not supportive of The President with that statement and that is a fact. It did stop Wallace’s line of questioning on the subject because Tillerson’s answer appeased Wallace. It’s what he wanted to hear. If that is ‘diplomacy’ you can have it

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                • Carole, did you watch the same interview I did? Wallace was in no way satisfied. He was visably frustrated because Tillerson wouldn’t give him an opening. He ended the interview looking beaten.

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            • Guy K. says:

              The facts of life, Carole, are that there ARE trolls around here, and many of them ARE part of a coordinated effort to plants seeds of doubt and to dis-spirit the regular readers here. You may not be part of that, but you sure do seem to be taking particular umbrage with a comment that originated in a thread you had not even taken part in before you came calling me out.

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              • carole says:

                Guy. I did not intend to ‘call you out.’ I read through all the comments and responded to those that most cogently expressed the opposite of mine. I don’t usually participate in all this stuff. I haven’t watched Wallace’s show in months. Just happened to tune in today and liked everything Tillerson said until that last comment. It just raised a red flag for me and also for my husband who was watching also. Again…time will tell if Tillerson’s comment meant anything one way or the other or at all.

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            • dalethorn says:

              Difference of opinion is OK. Maybe check the words first to see if they’re inflammatory. If not and you still get unfair pushback, just say it seems unfair. CTH is such a rare site, a rare place of amazing insight into politics that does NOT allow trolls to ruin the discussions, that I give the stalwarts the benefit of the doubt in these things. When you’ve seen as I have, so many sites polluted and ruined by too many concerns that don’t prove to be real in the long run, you learn to protect the treasures you do have. If the protection seems overdone, don’t worry about it. Someone else will always pick up where you left off.

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    • andrewalinxs says:

      Starting to notice a wave of comments being the verbatim headlines of Breitbart.

      Tillerson never needed to be Sectary of State. His previous job in many ways would of been less of a hassle the fact he is working in the administration when he never had to should tell you how much support he has of the President. As he is actully working and not some figure head taking the job so they can list themselves as a former Sectary of State later on.

      Tillirson is not some Politician using the State Department as a stepping stone to the White House or some other post later.

      Stop looking at it from the prism of a politician doing what politicians do because the President and Tillerson are not Politicians. He has given his support to the President he should not be required to say it over and over again like a broken record every time he does an interview.

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      • carole says:

        andrew: that is the first thing my husband and I both said when we started listening to Tillerson today: amazing that he would give up his great position and serve as SoS. Very grateful for the people who are willing to MAGA. I am trusting Tillerson is fully on board with that.

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  13. dekester says:

    I will bite, we stopped watching morning shows, even Maria B.

    I still read the comments section at CTH.

    It is a peculiar trait of the human species, that we subject ourselves to discomfort such as these shows.

    Great that PDJTs team goes on them. I guess they have to.

    But honestly, what condescending drivel they all are Juan W…a NPR reject, that was reprimanded for his stepping off the plantation. Then all the rest of them.

    Cissy Wallace..he is really a piece of work. Howie Kurtz..barf.

    The CTH comments are excellent though. Cheers.

    God bless PDJT

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  14. Trump never tells his ppl what to say, and they don’t tell him. He’s already made that point.

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  15. linda4298 says:

    VP Pence was the only one to stand side by side with the President on his comments.

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  16. Carolina Girl says:

    I am waiting to see what happens and hoping that President Trump is being strategic and not abandoning any of his campaign platform. I believe that to be the case. Many of us are suspicious because we have decades of memories of being lied to and scoffed at by those in power and those who think they have power. President Trump stepped forward when I had basically lost all hope of the USA truly feeling like my country ever again. She was becoming almost unrecognizable in many ways. And no, I am not talking about race or national origin. I don’t care if a person is green and purple polka dotted if he believes in the Constitution and the basic culture of this country—and takes some personal responsibility for himself.

    The UN is a joke. I used to be appalled occasionally by their outbursts against the United States. No longer. They normally place some of the world’s worst offenders of human rights on committees that then accuse the US of violating those rights. My mother taught me about the UN trolls when I was a child.

    I still leave Fox News (Fox Business much more often) on sometimes depending on what I am doing. When Juan Williams or any other libtards or party hacks come on, they are muted. I like to hear reasonable discussions involving different sides and opinions. There is almost none of that left on television or anywhere else that I know about. I like Tucker’s show. I’ve liked Tucker since he was on PBS a long time ago. When he had the shoe on MSNBC and they put Rachel Maddow on with him, I would always mute her. I have to mute some of the people Tucker has on his

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    • Guy K. says:

      If you mute Juan Williams on FOX, do you also mute Karl Rove, Rich Lowry, Jonah Goldberg, Charles Krauthammer and Dana Perino? Because you should. Every one of them is every bit as offensive as Juan Williams, even though none of them self-identify as libs.

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      • Carolina Girl says:

        Yes, I do mute every one of them.

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        • Mickie says:

          This is why many long time readers of the treehouse no longer post here anymore. If someone has a different take on something you get called a troll, which I am not. It’s a shame really.

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          • carole says:

            Well said, Mickie!!!

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          • Guy K. says:

            Carole and Mickie, HMMM! Nobody in THIS particular thread said ANYTHING about trolling until you two came along and brought it up. If you look at Carolina Girl’s original post and the ones that followed, nobody accused anybody of trolling until Mickie chimed in and then Carole quickly concurred. Where’d that come from, ladies? Seems someone doth be protesting too much here.

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            • Mickie says:

              Guy, re-read the thread, check the times on the postings, and then I will accept your apology for putting your nose where it didn’t belong.😘

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            • mimbler says:

              Actually, yes, earlier up thread people were called trolls,

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            • carole says:

              Guy: First: I am an editor and a writer. Words and their exact meanings and their context and nuances and implications in conversation is something I have always paid attention to. I am not a novice in the political world nor in the world of communication, or what passes for it in today’s ‘media.’ Second, I just wasted several minutes scrolling through this thread to see if what you have said is correct. It is not. Here is my first post, after which there were several comments decrying ‘concern trolls appearing en masse on the site. Later on, I agreed with Mickie, but that was NOT my first post on the subject. I agree with those who disagree with my view on one thing: this whole discussion has reached the ridiculous stage. Now I am done’. Good night, All..

              Carole says:
              August 27, 2017 at 4:40 pm

              I didn’t miss it. I thought it stood out like a sore thumb. Rex was very good up till that point. Very disappointed in him on that 😦

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    • dalethorn says:

      I go back to the videos of Trump, going back decades, and see that he’s the same man with the same drive as ever. Trump will not change, but strategies will change. When someone sees a strategy as a possible abandonment, it’s time to dig in and do some research. I’m lazy, I hate to do it, but I’m usually amazed at the complexity of what I find when I do dig in and research. And I’m always impressed by the qualities of the people Trump has chosen, knowing that they’re human, and that the devil is after them 24/7 trying to trip them up.

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  17. Clydeen says:

    John Nolte got me to cut the cord over 3 years ago. Best mute in the world.

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  18. Cindy says:

    My decision is to follow CTH and a few other people that I trust for my news. I can always find plenty to read. Listening to any news tv program will be misleading. I would like to know the amount of people that have stopped watching the news in the last year.

    President Trump is a phenomenon. God has got his back. Relax.

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  19. paulraven1 says:

    Tillerson: “Terrorism, as we’ve said, manifests itself in many types of organizations.”

    Really? Name one other than ISIS or those related to ISIS (radical Islam) to a degree that makes any distinctions matter.

    QUESTION: So what do you make of this division between America Firsters and so-called globalists?
    SECRETARY TILLERSON: I don’t see any division, Chris.

    That’s funny. Who does he think he’s kidding?

    QUESTION: And the President’s values?
    SECRETARY TILLERSON: The President speaks for himself, Chris.

    Wow, that’s a ringing endorsement of your president’s values! Thank so much.

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    • Nigella says:

      I wouldn’t read too much into that… Just my opinion

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    • jmclever says:

      Terrorist organizations not related to ISIS or Islam: Black LIves Matter, Antifa, MS-13

      the comment about so-called globalists is intended to create division where there is none. MSM labels certain key people in the administration as globalists and then pit them against America firsters or nationalists. IMHO T-Rex answered Wallace’s implied question.

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      • paulraven1 says:

        Let’s not be disingenuous. The question was directly related to the use of the term “radical Islam,” not to domestic terror e.g., BLM, Antifa. And in any case, we’ve done nothing about either of the latter groups, nor have they been declared terror groups (which they clearly are), so that is moot anyway. And there was nothing to stop Tillerson from mentioning any number of these groups. To identify them — hasn’t that been the hallmark of Trump’s leadership?

        By the way, has Tillerson ever used the term “radical Islamic terror”? I don’t know — I’m asking.

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    • doogiesblog says:

      Rex Tillerson deals with International issues. Why should he step into a pile of domestic sh*te when he could easily sidestep it by leaving it alone? The President speaks for himself. Go to him and ask. Not my problem.

      Stop pearl clutching over a sentence. Sounds like you want to see the worst– we are supposed to be supporting this administration.

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      • paulraven1 says:

        1. I don’t pearl clutch. 2. I don’t care for Tillerson. 3. Every moment with the MSM in which you play it safe is an opportunity lost.

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        • bkrg2 says:

          Hi Paul, serious question – why don’t you care for Tillerson?
          Is it specific about this interview or about the past 8 months? or before he became SoS?
          I’m a huge TRex fan, but don’t know anything about him except for all the stuff he has said and done as SoS.

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        • dalethorn says:

          If I were anyone in this administration, and I were about to be interviewed by MSM, I would want to own the discussion, not be on the defensive. Tillerson was masterful in owning that interview, and I am in awe.

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    • dalethorn says:

      I think the collective Left in the U.S., with sponsorship by the MSM (overt or covert), is by far our worst threat. If people in our administration are not saying that, I can certainly understand why. Our foreign enemies absolutely thrive on the work done by our domestic enemies here.

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    • NC PATRIOT says:

      I don’t think Tillerson’s view of “globalism” is the same as ours. The Secretary of State has to think in global terms because he deals with all nations. Foreign affairs is inherently global in nature or you wouldn’t be good at it. Even “America Firsters” view trade globally, but make sure the deals favor or are fair to us. As are military concerns.

      That is not the same as multinational financeers trying to control all global commerce to the exclusion of and to the detriment of the interests of individual nations. (NWO) That is PDJT’s “false song of globalism.”

      The term globalism has to be viewed in terms of what is being discussed.

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    • cozette says:

      Marxist inspired terror organizations such as Antifa and BLM are just as much of a threat to America and the West as radicalized Islam. I am amazed thats not obvious to everyone by now. President Trump and his team are wisely expanding Americas attention to include ALL terrorist groups in preparation for a national crack down on Marxist terrorists operating in America.

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  20. Bert Darrell says:

    So, Sec. Tillerson did not respond as you expected? Horror!
    Let’s not pay attention to the great job he’s been doing so far and get the guillotine ready. /S
    Now, I’ll seat tight and wait to see what Oldschool thinks about it.

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  21. O.M.G.!!!!!!!!!!!! Please, folks, stop falling for the “news cycle” posts. If you want to listen to something, then go and listen to Coach Jim Mora discussing football playoffs in his famous “woulda, coulda, shoulda” rant. That’s what you all sound like. He [Tillerson} shoulda done this that or the other. Seriously? If some of you are so very adept at these things, unlike the x-CEO of Exxon-Mobil Corp., then go and apply for the job. I’m really sure PDJT will give you an interview. /s

    Till then, S-squared.

    [cocktail hour in ATL]

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    • I have had time to think about an earlier comment I made that was negative about Tillerson; I have now changed my perspective. No matter what he said, it would become a negative story about POTUS. I think he said the right thing….he did the best and I kind of think he and POTUS, figured anyone from the administration to be interviewed would be put on the spot with this type of question and this was an agreed upon response.

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  22. America First says:

    Yeah, my issue is that Tillerson knows there’s a false narrative out there (which Wallace carefully lays out in his question) that Trump doesn’t ‘fully condemn’ the KKK, white supremacism, whatever, yet he knowingly distances himself from him. Not only that, but Tillerson implies the values he represents at the State Department are ‘American values’, but refuses to equate President Trump’s statements with that, as if Trump’s values aren’t American values. You guys can defend it all you want, but that’s straight up abandoning your President. Trump doesn’t need to make any more statements. He’s done nothing wrong. As he pointed out at the Phoenix rally by laboriously repeating his statements from the 3 previous instances, he HAS, REPEATEDLY, CONDEMNED RACISM AND CALLED FOR LOVE AND UNITY! And as we know, and maybe Tillerson watches MSM and doesn’t know, Antifa are self-avowed anarcho-communists who take cheap shots at women and 70 year old men who aren’t ‘white supremacists’, just ordinary patriotic folks who support President Trump. Antifa needs to be called out, and the violence of communism IS on a moral par with the violence of fascism. I’ll say it. History doesn’t lie about that, although communist governments do.

    I guess, Rex Tillerson seems to think he works for his high-minded buddies on the global stage. He works for the Trump administration. If he’s that upset with the President that he can’t defend him from these unfair attacks, he needs to step down. He’s not doing America any service or good by showing such division within our government. And, please, I’m not a troll. I only post these things because it infuriates me to see our President get no back from these people when the MSM continues with this campaign of lies against him. It’s inexcusable disloyalty, IMO.

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    • maxmbj says:

      Yep.

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    • starshollow88 says:

      100%

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    • wildblueberry says:

      As much as I like Tillerson, I have to agree with you here. There are many ways that he could have handled this “diplomatically” with none of these negative connotations. Expected much more from him.

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    • joshua says:

      maybe you are being a little too picky and petty. Rex T is a very experienced businessperson and leader, who has dealt with the media clowns for YEARS. He speaks in ways that solidify the administration while blocking the media from continuing a path he recognizes that leads to critique of the President……try to cut some slack to this man…he is an expert at what he does.

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    • dalethorn says:

      I was surprised and concerned at first, but changed my mind because:
      1) Tillerson was masterful in containing Wallace.
      2) Trump trusts Tillerson.
      3) If Tillerson somehow decided to really part ways with Trump’s opinion publicly, Trump would either replace him, or there would be an explanation of how things aren’t what they seem to be.
      4) Trump’s objectives are clear, but he needs good people who have lots of real world experience (that differs from his experience) to get those objectives going.
      5) Politics is very, very complicated. Patience is the companion of wisdom.

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    • MAGA Happy Boy says:

      At the end of the day we have ONE POTUS, and it ain’t Rex. He knows it and PDJT lives it!!!!!!

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    • carole says:

      Absolutely RIGHT ON, America First!!!

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  23. NJF says:

    This is a classic “when did you stop beating your wife” question.

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  24. Founding Fathers Fan says:

    In the 1991 Gulf War Wallace advertised where the Scud missiles landed, in order to aid the Iraqis in making adjustments to their launchers. He’s a dangerous, evil man and should be in prison.

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  25. jmclever says:

    It would seem that the Breitbart covert NeverTrumpers are out for Tillerson’s scalp the same way they are out for McMasters’. Translation: T-Rex is very effective at his job.
    TILLERSON DECLINES TO SAY IF TRUMP DEFENDS AMERICAN VALUES…
    …‘PRESIDENT SPEAKS FOR HIMSELF’…
    …WAT?: AMERICA FIRST = GLOBALISM…
    …SEZ GORKA ‘COMPLETELY WRONG’ ON ‘RADICAL ISLAM’ TERM

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    • Donna in Oregon says:

      We are in a globalist economy right now. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging how things truly are while working hard to create a separate economy that benefits Americans.

      Labels aside, that is what is happening. We cannot leave the existing economy and win. We must create an economy within the one we have. It is not either/or, we should have both. Trade deals that acknowledge both of our economies will accomplish this. Main Street and Wall Street, separate but equal. 🙂

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      • xyzlatin says:

        Donna, have you actually read the many articles that Sundance has laboriously laid out for us all to understand where “Wall St” (which is a pseudonym for globalists) and Main Street differ? If you have, you appear to not have understood the battle. This is fairyland stuff you are talking about, Wall St and Main St being separate but equal. The Globalists have no interest in America or any sovereign country, they want one world order under the UN. This is a fight to the death and they want to crush us.

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        • Donna in Oregon says:

          xyzlatin, I listened to what you said. I do read Sundance (I am still new), but I stand by the premise that on this site people can have a different take on something and it’s okay. In my mind I don’t see the stock market and Wall Street being destroyed by the Trump admin.

          Wall Street may be destroyed by their own greed. That is entirely possible. If credit derivatives crash again there will be consequences in each country, it will be a Global event.

          The best thing for America to do is create a system for blue collar and middle America that is separate from Wall Street.

          If that isn’t a battle to the death, well okay. It’s still a solution.

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  26. Donna in Oregon says:

    I always look for the seeping wound.

    Wallace: “So what do you make of this division between America Firsters and so-called globalists?”

    Bingo. So-called, eh? Globalist deniers are the worst liars….. Seeping wound, dying schemes. dirty cash, lock them up.

    Make America Great Again 🙂

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  27. maxmbj says:

    I’m getting pretty leery of Tillerson. This “The president speaks for himself” comment really triggers me. Coming on the heels of his Let’s Honor the Diversity God at state department and his other less than ringing endorsements of Trump put him on my Ones To Watch list. Sorry, treepers, but I don’t trust him.

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    • Timmy-the-Ute says:

      The President is the administration. He specks for the Presidency. Individual citizens are responsible for there own actions but not office holders. Man up Rex, and support the President. Rex really stuck his foot in his mouth. Maybe Trump should have settled with Romney.

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    • dutzie60 says:

      First time I’ve ever heard a ‘deplorable’ actually say they have been “triggered” by something someone says. I don’t know maxmbj, did you take a wrong turn looking for a safe space and bump into the Treehouse?

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      • maxmbj says:

        I’m quite aware of how the left has co-opted this term. I’m appropriating it for our side.

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        • dutzie60 says:

          Thanks but No Thanks. Please leave it where it belongs on the left with all of their SJWs. Deplorables don’t need to be using that term for any event. They are all smart enough to come with their own descriptive words to describe how they feel and think about anything. Of course, by reading this wonderful blog and all the comments the astute Treepers make, I would think you are aware of this. We don’t need to appropriate Anything from the Looney Left.

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          • cyn3wulf says:

            Too late. The younger generation has already co-opted the term, using it ironically/sarcastically when talking about minor irritants. Same with safe spaces, cultural appropriation, etc. Even Andrew Klavan, who is quite a few years away from being in the younger generation, opens his show with “Trigger warning: I’m Andrew Klavan.”

            He uses it here at the 2:33 mark, but his opening monologue is funny if you have 2 and a half minutes to spare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cralrcoQI

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            • dutzie60 says:

              I think you might be talking about using it sarcastically making fun of the left. maxmbj used it as a serious state of his emotions. Big difference. I say use it and make fun of them as much as possible, but don’t try to have the rest of us appropriate in a meaningful way.

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        • joshua says:

          nope

          here

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        • carole says:

          I get what you’re saying, max. For me it ‘put up a red flag’…’my antenna suddenly went up’…it was not a statement supportive of President Trump. That was very obvious.

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    • Bert Darrell says:

      maxmbj: some people say that chewing gum on the left side of your mouth while pressing on the right nostril with a finger relieves triggers caused by words. I haven’t tried it but thought I’d mention it in case you’d like to.

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  28. WeThePeople2016 says:

    I don’t think what Tillerson said was wrong. Wallace was playing gotcha with that question and tried to put words in Tillerson’s mouth. No matter what he said, they would have tried to make something out of it. Wallace wanted the soundbite so he can get click bait.

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    • A2 says:

      Exactly, now turn that around. Translation:
      T-Rex:
      ‘I’m not going to put words in Pres Trump’s mouth, Chris’ (because you are a swamp defender and parcel tongued member of the press. T-Rex is a diplomat so he wouldn’t embarrass the whiney sniveler on his own show, but I can).

      As to the ” So what do you make of this division between America Firsters and so-called globalists?
      SECRETARY TILLERSON: I don’t see any division, Chris.

      Translation: We are all on the same page MAGA (rejecting the false premise there are ‘America firsters’ and ‘globalists’ ravaging each other in the administration. Now who started that mythical meme narrative?

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  29. Irish Eyes says:

    I think Tillerson just meant it’s not his role to speak for the President. They must get annoyed with these gotcha questions.

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  30. I don’t understand the need to use the term “radical Islam” in regard to Afghanistan. Gorka is dead wrong on this one. I totally agree with T-Rex. Afghanistan is not a religious crusade. We are not attempting to eradicate Islam from Afghanistan. If anything we want that country to stay as Muslim as it wants to be. The more they keep the safer we are here. That’s why he was very careful about talking about the Taliban.

    When POTUS used that terminology “radical Islam” on the campaign trail he was talking about extreme vetting immigration and ISIS. Not Afghanistan. All Islam that is fundamentally followed is radical and its redundant.

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    • mimbler says:

      This is the kind of post we need more of. You didn’t call the people you disagree with names (pearl clutchers, trolls, etc.)

      You gave a reasoned response as to why you disagree with them.

      While I’m not sure I totally agree with you, I follow your logic, and will give it additional thought.

      Name calling just makes people defensive and more protective of their opinion. Rational discussion is inviting and far more prone to having people at least move closer to your position.

      And we should aspire to the best position, not just our position,

      Mike

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  31. El Torito says:

    After having the historical gathering of Arab nations and getting them acknowledge their problem with terrorism, how stupid it would be to ignore the notion that they don’t like it referred to in terms of their religion. Of course it’s factually correct, but a big irritant. Small adjustment to make to keep them engaged in killing terrorists, regardless of which tribe they worship in.

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    • mimbler says:

      I’m a little conflicted over this as I see both sides.
      1) hard to argue with your assessment, but
      2) moderate muslims say we are undercutting their efforts to reform islam, by not calling out the problems with islam.

      Two very valid points that drive to diametrically opposite conclusions.

      As PDJT says: “Complicated business, folks!”

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  32. thluckyone says:

    Sundance, I would never watch any interview or even a commercial that included the presence of Chris Wallace. I LOVE the way you’ve substituted “Question” for the name of “Chris Wallace” in the transcript. LOL! Maybe sometime you could use “Ducolax” as a substitute name for Chris Wallace, or maybe “Bay of Pigs”. You’re WONDERFULLY creative so I know you could come up with others – but “Question” is just fine. THANK YOU!

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  33. John Matrix says:

    Is it me or does Chrissy Wallace have a face that just screams…punch me???
    Second, I’m seeing a lot of concern trolling in the comments regarding T-Rex stating the President speaks for himself. If you actually watched President Trump’s Phoenix speech this week, you could conclude that President Trump made his views on Charlottesville and the media’s temper tantrum crystal clear…THAT is what T-REX IS referring to…not an attempt to distance himself from the President.

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  34. cyn3wulf says:

    “the sky is falling, the sky is falling” -people who interpreted “the President speaks for himself, Chris” as evidence that Tillerson is a globalist who is throwing Trump under the social justice bus

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  35. reenahovermale says:

    I really like how our administration is signalling that Afghanistan needs to address the needs of its minority and named the Taliban. If the Taliban and the Afghani government can come to terms that brings peace to their nation – it’s a win-win for everyone. I like how our administration is signalling that they we are not nosy nation-builders any longer, but we very much will take our financial power to others who play nice, if they can’t, and that we will no longer look the other way when terrorists are harbored or helped.
    It’s a very shrewd move. Just imagine where’d we be if any of the other candidates had won.

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  36. georgiafl says:

    WELL, well, well.

    The Wallace interview has already fostered a whole slew of articles touting the new leftist media narrative about Tillerson’s statements in this interview.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Tillerson+Charlottesville&t=osx&nmexp=b&ia=news

    Looks like their torpedoes were already in the tube and ready to fire.

    I watched the media outlets (17 stories) compare Trump with George Wallace early in the campaign.

    We have seen funny videos of dozens of media mouthsl using the prescribed catch phrase during a 24 hour news cycle.

    They are working for a a central command that sends them their talking points and levels of snot and negativity to project.

    Now we know what they are doing. Who are they doing it for?

    Most of our media are owned by just 5-6 large corporations…but who do they answer to or work for? Are they just paid propaganda vehicles or dedicated ideologues?

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    • rsanchez1990 says:

      Taking that quotation out of context really irks me. It is a co-ordinated attack on Tillerson. I don’t think anyone who actually sees the context would take it as Tillerson distancing himself from Trump. Tillerson didn’t take the bait from Wallace, but facts never matter for the Fake News Media.

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  37. albrevin says:

    Absolutely nothing wrong with what Tillerson said. This is just another media-manufactured story to create discord and try and isolate the POTUS.

    I looked at Faux News website and, sure enough, they have an article up spinning this very thing. Sick of the media. Anything, I repeat ANYTHING and EVERYTHING, put out by the MSM needs to be rejected completely until facts prove otherwise.

    Default mode is to isolate their headline and their spin, think through what the underlying emotional response is, and assume the opposite.

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  38. TheWanderingStar says:

    From the Rex Tillerson speech of 18-Aug-2017 to State Department interns, employees and recruits. Key excerpts:

    “I think with the events of so many things that have been happening this past week, I want to use this as an opportunity in particular, because we have so many of – a great representation of so many of young great Americans who are making these choices ahead of them. And I know it’s a topic that’s on everyone’s mind, in particular, and I think that’s the topic of our race relations and diversity in the workplace. And I think, first, it’s simply important to say – although I think it is well understood and embraced by, I’m certain, everyone in this room – that we all know hate is not an American value.

    Nowhere is it an American value. We do honor, protect, and defend freedom of speech, First Amendment rights. It’s what sets us apart from every other government regime in the world, in allowing people a right to expression. These are good things. But we do not honor, nor do we promote or accept hate speech in any form. And those who embrace it poison our public discourse and they damage the very country that they claim to love. So we condemn racism, bigotry in all its forms. Racism is evil; it is antithetical to America’s values. It’s antithetical to the American idea.

    George Washington said in an address to the synagogue in Newport, Rhode Island, that his vision for our country was, I quote, “a government which to bigotry gives no sanction; to persecution, no assistance.” In his second inaugural address in the middle of the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln called on Americans to “bind up the nation’s wounds.” What Lincoln knew, and that we are sadly reminded today, that painful racial tensions are part of our experience as a nation. We too today should seek to bind up the wounds. We must pursue reconciliation, understanding, and respect regardless of skin color, ethnicity, or religious, or political views.

    One of America’s defining characteristics is the promise of opportunity for advancement regardless of your skin color, how much money your parents make, or where you came from. It’s why millions of Americans, millions of people have risked their lives and their fortunes to protect this country, to come to this country – because they know that America promises a chance to fulfill your aspirations no matter your background. You will succeed based upon your efforts.

    As my good friend Condi Rice has said, the essence of America is that which really unites us. It is not ethnicity or nationality or religion, it is an idea that you can come from humble circumstances and do great things. That it doesn’t matter where you came from but where you’re going. As the arm of the U.S. Government representing America around the world, the U.S. State Department should be a clear display of America’s values and our people, not just in our mission but in the composition of our workforce.”

    Had Chris Wallace done his homework he would’ve seen Sec Tillerson’s remarks. They are the same as the President’s. I think PDJT and the administration are tired of having to repeat themselves time and time again, only to have press word parse, criticize and demand a specificity that is fitting only for the press’ narrative. Therefore, for the Secretary to say, “The President speaks for himself.” is to say in so many words, that I [SoS] have made my comments and they are sufficient and the President has made his comments and they are sufficient.

    Reading the transcript, I see the same wording the President has used.

    https://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2017/08/273527.htm

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