Nothing of Particular Consequence, Yet…

Just a note amid all the chatter to point out something inconsequential amid the grand scheme of things (Thursday, Friday, Yesterday) Today… but might, I would suggest will, present significance later.   Maybe consider this, well, just, ‘stuff CTH notes’.

Over the weekend President Trump traveled to Camp David. Video of Trump departing White House 8/25/17 here.  The President has kept in touch with, VP, cabinet officials and emergency response staff, numerous times throughout, and did two teleconference meetings with full cabinet. The President is totally engaged.  However, something about this picture yesterday seemed odd:

Do you notice it?

Chief of Staff General John Kelly, is not with the President in Camp David?

Actually, there was no-one from the administration staff, communications team, or policy team physically with President Trump at Camp David.

President Trump, First Lady Melania Trump, Barron Trump, Jared Kushner and Ivanka along with all the grandkids went to Camp David Friday Night, and returned to Washington DC mid-day today, Sunday.

It might be nothing; it probably is nothing.

It could be just family time.

No staff, no “Chief of Staff” etc.

But it’s also very unusual for workaholic President Trump.  Especially considering “Harvey”, and the extent of engagement held with the entire Homeland Security, FEMA, Cabinet officials etc.

Not typical Trump to leave White House (x infinity – against backdrop).

Again, no Chief of Staff…

Then again…

Last week, all week, Jason Greenblatt and Jared Kushner were all over the mid-East holding meetings with President Trump’s Saudi coalition partners, the Palestinian Authority and Israel.

The two sides talked about seeking ways to reach “a real and lasting peace between Israelis and Palestinians” and ensuring stability in the wider Middle East and beyond, SPA said.

The White House announced the trip earlier this month, saying it was part of a regional tour including meetings with leaders from the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Jordan, Egypt, Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

The U.S. delegation would meet regional leaders to discuss a “path to substantive Israeli-Palestinian peace talks”, a White House official said at the time.

Kushner was charged with helping to broker a deal between Israelis and Palestinians after Trump took office. (link)

President Trump spoke to Egyptian President Fattah al-Sisi on Thursday.

Jared Kushner returned to Washington DC on Friday, and almost immediately went straight to Camp David with the President, Melania, Ivanka and kids.

My hunch is that weekend debriefing session by Jared Kushner was rather extensive.

My hunch is that debriefing session by Jared Kushner was also rather sensitive.

My hunch is that pre-planned debriefing session needed enhanced security precautions from prying ears, eyes and leaks.

Or, it could have just been ‘family time’.

You decide.

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351 Responses to Nothing of Particular Consequence, Yet…

  1. Amy1212 says:

    HMX guys say it is not unusual for only the 1st family to go to Camp David without any staff.

    Liked by 2 people

    • zephyrbreeze says:

      But this is workaholic Trump.

      Liked by 1 person

      • domain496 says:

        Even when he is “relaxing” it is with purpose, Not necessarily attributed to work ethic and drive, but to FOCUS. I’ve never seen a human being with such focus and single-mindedness towards the goal. And I am so thankful to God for bringing this man forward.

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    • old fart says:

      Maybe not when someone in the “staff” is prone to leaking.

      Liked by 6 people

    • farmhand1927 says:

      We may want to avoid the temptation of over-thinking every single movement, word, or contemplated movement or word. All of us here understand the keen insights and skillful understanding of our President. Whether you believe he operates on dimensional chess moves, super human discernment and gamesmanship or by the grace of the God that called him for this purpose at this moment in history, please don’t get too deep in the weeds on trying to second guess.

      If we’re not told, we don’t need to know. The President very well could have wanted 48 hours with his family and to get a complete briefing from his son in law. Both. In fact, both seem from all appearances to be the case and not a potential mystery to unravel so at some point we can say, “See, I told you so.”

      There is so much eminent danger, loss and suffering in Texas right now and the media and the President’s other enemies are stalking every possible alley to find people that will criticize both our President and Gov. Abbott. The media, including Fox News keep baiting the traps in spite of the suffering all around them. No tragedy and no person are spared from being offered up as a sacrifice for political gain.

      Al Sharpton is hosting a protest today in Washington which will be as laced with vitriol and hatred as possible. Still enraged that the President made the statement that there were good people on both sides of the Charlottesville march, they refuse to see his wisdom and truth. The young woman killed and the police officers that went down in the helicopter were all good people. None of the three showed up to hurt or harm anyone or destroy any property, yet hateful people including members of Congress insult their memories by holding fast to an empty argument, simply to tear down our President. More sacrifices to the political gain fake god. wing thugs beat people up in Berkeley this weekend. Paul Ryan will likely pop off about something again soon. (Had enough, Wisconsin? The other 49 states have.) In other words, the media beast has been richly fed this weekend, they don’t need more.

      Seems we have enough trouble for the day without fueling the jackals and vipers any further as to what did or didn’t happen at Camp David, who did or didn’t go, who did or didn’t have privilege to all conversations. One thing for sure, no Fake News photos of our President practicing at the firing range. We need only realize this, it was a busy weekend and our President was at work and in touch with whom he needed to be at all times.

      Our neighbors in TX need our support. That’s an effort we can control with no second guessing whatsoever.

      Matthew 6:34 “Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of it’s own.”

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      • LULU says:

        Farmhand1927, so true…we see far too much of this going on to the point where we are feeding the oppo types from within what is supposed to be President Trump’s base.

        We may want to avoid the temptation of over-thinking every single movement, word, or contemplated movement or word. All of us here understand the keen insights and skillful understanding of our President. Whether you believe he operates on dimensional chess moves, super human discernment and gamesmanship or by the grace of the God that called him for this purpose at this moment in history, please don’t get too deep in the weeds on trying to second guess.

        If we’re not told, we don’t need to know. The President very well could have wanted 48 hours with his family and to get a complete briefing from his son in law. Both. In fact, both seem from all appearances to be the case and not a potential mystery to unravel so at some point we can say, “See, I told you so.”

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      • straightstreet says:

        I guarantee the dems will play up the fact that President Trump went with his family “out of town for a fun filled weekend while Hurricane Harvey wreaked havoc on Houston”. Now, I love our president so I’m not one of those. I just think that’s the angle they will take (and maybe worse – my mind cannot come up with the evil they do)

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        • Indimex says:

          President Trump could be up to his under arms in water, singlehandedly rescuing an entire Special Olympics team (without a single white kid on it) and the Opposition would find something sinister about it. He will never win with those people. Thankfully, he’s not pandering to them, he’s WORKING for us!
          God bless him and keep him🙏🏼

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    • RG says:

      The four with their backs to us in the picture look familiar…just saying…did anyone name those who are in attendance?

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  2. Flair1239 says:

    This also nukes the “General Kelly is controlling Trump’s access to news” narrative.

    Liked by 4 people

    • janc1955 says:

      Whether it’s narrative or truth, it’s definitely nuked – at least for this weekend.

      Liked by 2 people

    • babethebeagle says:

      Yes, That was a really weird article in Breitbart. It made no sense. Nobody is going to censor Trump’s reading materials. What was that even about?

      Liked by 4 people

      • Notmeagain says:

        If Bannon is really on Trump’s side, and if Bannon also influences what gets published on Breitbart, then I can only think that there is a Sun Tzu “look weak so the enemy is lulled” strategy. There seems to be more on the themes of weakness and chaos lately, and some is hard for me to believe.

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      • joninmd22 says:

        Breitbart is desperately trying to stay relevant as they spiral in flames. That story was especially ridiculous in its puffing themselves up.

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        • RG says:

          The FACT the Breittbart is sinking into quicksand may have been one reason Bannon needed to take a break from the DC drama and get back to the news/opionion operations at Breitbart. As a barometer for me, I read Breitbart religiously for 9 years…now I may click on it to see what the evil liberals believe and what the latest headlines read. Often, I think I am reading a liberal rag.
          What I think that Fox and others who try to educate us about CNN and other liberal talk is that conservatives don’t care and usually won’t even stay for the show. We have CNN banned in our house. We know their crazy talk and we know and can recognize their fake news. We don’t want to see it. If you wanna tell us a little about it, OK but don’t expect me to read an entire article featuring Maxine Waters, Bill Maher, Bob Corker, Witch McConnell, Huffington Post or others. We understand their game. What can we do about them anyway? They are disgusting.
          BTW…have you seen the size of a recent TIME magazine. Why they even bother going to print is a mystery to me.

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          • joninmd22 says:

            Except the ranting has gone up after Bannon left.

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          • Ned says:

            Actually it is FOX that is tanking and BB is going up in audience.

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          • Benson II says:

            A good way to sort is the name of the articles author. Some of these guys never had a good thing to say about Trump……ever. I still visit Breibart everyday and they still manage to come up with some articles of interest I don’t see elsewhere.

            Any trust (by me) in Bannon is going to need proving by Bannon. I think his remarks after leaving were unconscionable and wearily reporter like. Big league business and inside real politics were shown to not be his forte.

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    • PDQ says:

      That one is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard, eh?

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    • Paul Killinger says:

      The MSM have been following Donald Trump around every day for two years now, and still don’t have a clue about the man.

      As Ron White so aptly put it, “You can’t fix stupid!”

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    • shadowcole says:

      I find it awful coincidental that I put in last weeks thread here about Sen Flake and Trump, that Trump should focus on Missouri where McCaskill is up for re-election next year because he won so big here in Mo. Then Sunday he tweets he is coming to Missouri to talk about tax reform and he mentions he won big here in Mo and McCaskill.

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    • Ned says:

      Trump will NEVER allow anyone to isolate him when it comes to news.
      What ikes the establishment is their not be able to CONTROL him.
      It is claimed and Trump admitted as much, in his Phoenix rally, that he was told “not to be controversial” so he all but mentioned the names he was not to mention. He described the people – “just one vote” and speaking about patriot Sheriff Joe and his pardon….no, Trump will not be isolated or controlled.

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  3. mikebrezzze says:

    TRump playing grand master chess while his adversaries and “confidants ” play minor league tidleywinks

    Liked by 11 people

    • keebler AC ovfefe says:

      Good description of it. Lol.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Judith says:

      We can’t make the same mistakes they did by minimizing what President Trump can do. These people are no joke. And it’s obvious that their tentacles are everywhere, and have been for many, many years. They got sloppy and, somehow. Donald Trump, against incredible odds, slipped past their firewall. Deep State players are formidable opponents and we need all the prayers we can get. Make no mistake, will never get this chance again.

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  4. Joe says:

    “You decide”. Both.

    Liked by 2 people

  5. Ivehadit says:

    And, I might add that Melania’s outfit was *very* uncharacteristically casual…wink wink.

    Liked by 3 people

  6. WSB says:

    AdRem, I had a response to ‘Bob’ earlier about the reason that PT does know everything about securing real estate all over the world in the face of hurricanes, tornadoes, floods and cyclones. Did it go poof?

    TU.

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  7. Notmeagain says:

    Trump has only his family. Good thing it is such a talented family. We will be in perilous waters with the Swamp and its many minions at least until 2019. In the meantime the midterms are almost as crucial as getting Trump elected last year was.

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  8. TheWanderingStar says:

    In order for the “no leaks debrief” at Camp David with Jared to work, that would suggest (1) Jared held private discussions with key leaders or their proxies aside from their main meetings and or (2) PDJT provided private communications to Jared to be hand delivered to key leaders. It would be the only way to insure secrecy within the Jared delegation and then Camp David provides the opaque backdrop for the debriefing.

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  9. deanbrh says:

    It would seem more private if he went to one of his own holdings with the family. Don’t you imagine Camp David has recorders in all the walls? Or maybe they ere using this visit to test whether leaks happen from Camp David? I hope they all have Etch-a-Sketches, because I can’t think of any other private way to converse…..and they’d have to destroy or bury the things before they left Camp David.

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    • TPR says:

      Hard for me to draw a conclusion about this because of how much I don’t know about Camp David. I know US Presidents always go there, but I’ve never understood it. There must be something about Camp David that is “Top Secret” that few, if any, people know about. Otherwise, it’s hard for me to understand the consistent appeal of Camp David for Presidents, year after year. What does Camp David have that’s so special? Many presidents have had access to the nicest properties in the country, and yet they have all enjoyed trips to Camp David. And Trump obviously has places he would love to spend his time, and yet he’s already been to Camp David a few times. Just doesn’t make any sense to me. Would love if some had any insight into its presidential appeal… Especially in light of a situation like this.

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      • TwoLaine says:

        President TRUMP Is trying to save us money. He doesn’t want to repeat the mistakes of the prior OCCUPIERS.

        He’s been attacked (cost-wise) repeatedly for going to Maralago. He knows NYC is expensive so he stays away. They also attack him for going to his NJ property (because he might actually play golf while he’s there), but who cares.

        Camp David is set up as a secure and quickie getaway, specifically set up for Presidents, so he is staying close to home (WH) and incurring as little cost as possible.

        http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-trump-administration-air-travel-costs-3-58-million/

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      • lokiscout says:

        Camp David is a Presidential retreat in the Maryland mountains about 60 miles from Washington. Built as a WPA project in the 1930’s as a secure retreat for the President and his family it has been used by all Presidents since as both a weekend get away and as a secure facility to conduct specific meetings with staff or world leaders. Camp David was the site of the Egypt/Israeli Peace Accords facilitated by President Carter during his administration.
        Officially known as “Naval Support Facility Thurmont” staffed principally by US Navy and Marine personnel it affords a much reduced Secret Service presence as compared to a more public location such as Mar A Largo or Trump Tower.

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        • H.R. says:

          lokiscout: “[…] it affords a much reduced Secret Service presence […]”

          hmmmm… Is President Trump giving the Secret Service crew some weekend time off to be with their families? Our President may be killing 4 or 5 birds with one stone.

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          • LULU says:

            His Secret Service detail goes with him everywhere.

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            • AZ_Giggles says:

              Yes, but the size of the security detail changes depending on location, I’d imagine. As pointed out elsewhere, I have a feeling Trump used this retreat for multiple purposes. One of the reasons our President is capable of maintaining such a “workaholic” lifestyle is because he does enjoy (and takes advantage of) the small reprieves in the middle of his hectic life. Lots of little breaks, as opposed to long vacations. (“little breaks” for Trump probably means meal time breaks and an hour here or there, hahaha) God bless President Trump!

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        • Maquis says:

          Thanks Loki. The “Camp David Accords” have imbued the site with a great sense of purpose and intent, despite it’s apparent humble nature. Matters of such nature and gravity are now transpiring at the will of President Trump at this very place; the symbology could not be more ideal nor powerful.

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      • deanbrh says:

        I suspect it’s closeness to the White House is a big draw (45 minutes), as are the woods around it and it’s solitude. Also I expect all presidents feel obligated to use what the taxpayers pay to staff and maintain solely for the Presidents’ use. God knows the left has spent plenty of energy criticizing every single time Trump goes to one of his own properties!

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  10. Chris says:

    Well, the weather in the Camp David local has been absolutely beautiful this past week.
    ..weekend in the cool Maryland mountain woods would be enjoyable and relaxing to anyone..
    course I’m biased.. =)

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  11. Sedanka says:

    That cat always scares the hell out of me.

    Liked by 5 people

  12. If suspicious cat is on the scene, then Housten, we have a problem…..

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  13. Jeffro says:

    Long-time reader, but first-time commenter (feel like I’m at an AA meeting… ha!). Greetings from Memphis everyone! The ghost of Elvis says “Hi!”

    This may seem like an odd observation, but, in that first photo above, doesn’t the guy in the middle of the shot sitting in the chair against the wall look a lot like Steve Bannon? Is it just me? Nah, couldn’t be, could it? How curious would that be? (Pardon me while I go clean my glasses… 😏)

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  14. sundance says:

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    • lokiscout says:

      Works for me. We tried normal channels and procedures for years. If the son-in-law can get some results from that snake pit I’ll take it. I am sure TRex has used used special “emissaries” in his time as head of Exxon-Mobile. In my business we called them “Tiger-Team Leaders”. Kept myself employed for a couple years at one point in my career in a similar position. Though in my case much less significant issues.

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  15. TwoLaine says:

    Maybe CoS Kelly had personal stuff of his own to take care of in the D.C. area.

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    • lokiscout says:

      Ah, yeah… CoS Kelly, serves at the pleasure of the President as he has his whole life as a Commissioned Officer. He just has a less disciplined brood of chickens to heard these days. Not to mention a less disciplined Boss who he now reports to directly.

      So I don’t ruffle feathers like TRex seems to have done Sunday morning, I am not taking a shot at President Trump’s Discipline. Just stating a fact I am very supportive of our President and his methods.

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      • Ziiggii says:

        “Not to mention a less disciplined Boss…”

        I would hardly call the President “less disciplined” – IMHO, it’s just a different leadership style then say a career USMC four-star General! A person does not simply ‘acquire’ a multi-billion dollar real estate company as if it were handed to them. It takes lots of hard work and ‘discipline’ to grow a business to that size.

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  16. Suspicious cat says: now that Bannon is out, it has devolved to Trump himself to set up the “Barium Meals”.

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  17. LULU says:

    That photo around the table looked odd because I couldn’t find the President. And the man to the right of the man at the head of the table appears to be John Kelly (with his hand over his mouth), who has a very recognizable profile. (nose)

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    • LULU says:

      Just looked again. It’s a teleconference. The cabinet members (including Kelly) are at the table. The President, in the white USA cap he wore to Camp David, is on the righthand TV screen.

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      • tampafan says:

        Lulu – not trying to insult you, but you are restating the obvious that is the entire point of this post. Trump is (alone) at Camp David, conferencing his Cabinet – all of whom are in DC – including communications staff that is on other screen. He is ALONE at Camp David with only family and Secret Service. Insinuation by Sundance is that he is, perhaps, getting private briefing by Jared to contain any leaks about Middle East.

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        • Maquis says:

          Supposition. Insinuation implies an indirect manner of implying something, often accusatory, generally negative. Sundance has made a deduction, an educated guess, a supposition, and is sharing it openly without snark.

          Definitely a moment for Mr Webster, and I wouldn’t make an effort at correction except that it paints our host with a brush I am sure you did not intend to use, one that I would object to if you did.

          Cheers!

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  18. Bendix says:

    “Three may keep a secret, if two are dead.”
    I don’t know where that’s from.

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  19. jeans2nd says:

    Why has Pres Trump via Kushner opted to work with Abbas re: Israeli/Palestinian peace deal?
    Answer -> New Hamas leader says relations with Iran have been restored
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11912889
    Seems Abbas has changed, according to NZ Herald. Hamas, notsomuch.
    -> “debriefing session by Jared Kushner was also rather sensitive”

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  20. Ziiggii says:

    Jared Kushner returned to Washington DC on Friday, and almost immediately went straight to Camp David with the President, Melania, Ivanka and kids.

    My hunch is that weekend debriefing session by Jared Kushner was rather extensive.

    My hunch is that debriefing session by Jared Kushner was also rather sensitive.

    My hunch is that pre-planned debriefing session needed enhanced security precautions from prying ears, eyes and leaks.

    If SD’s hunch is correct – where was SoS T-Rex? Why was TRex not at Camp David for this debrief? He is the head and face of American Foreign Policy, one would think he would need to be present to have a working knowledge on what was discussed during these ME talks….

    Maybe I’m just off base, IDK, but Daily Caller is reporting that the President and TRex are having lunch today (right now). Granted the report is claiming that the lunch is in re: TRex comments yesterday

    President Donald Trump will have lunch with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson Monday after Tillerson appeared to distance Trump’s statements from the nation’s values.

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/27/trump-to-have-lunch-with-tillerson-following-sec-states-critical-comment/
    but I have to wonder if the lunch mtg is not connected to SD’s hunch. If I were TRex and the President retired to Camp David to debrief multi-national diplomacy ME talks I’d want to also be in attendance.

    Something definitely feels off and I have been increasingly feeling this way for the last 2 weeks.

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  21. artichoke says:

    Camp David is a good place for unsurveilled conversation. One can walk around the grounds and there are probably locations that are not bugged there. Or at least easy to check out and make sure they are not bugged — vs. the White House that was bugged and that they just did renovations on during August.

    Also, an eye must be kept on DC, because there’s likely an impeachment movement brewing there, would not surprise me if Tillerson is helping push that along. They want Trump gone and the scandals and everything else they’ve tried didn’t work, so now they are reduced to impeachment, which can be whatever Congress goes along with.

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  22. Maquis says:

    Trusting Cat says Trump’s got this, and Sundance is, as always, amazing. Debriefing indeed.

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  23. Jenny R. says:

    Maybe he just wants to take a little break from everyone and think about things for himself with nobody else around for a few days? His family would be more easily sent out the door of Daddy’s study than cabinet members and staff, who after all are paid to be there talking all the time.
    Think about it…who gives you more alone time when you ask for it — family? or co-workers/employees/employers?

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  24. JCscuba says:

    Saudi’s want peace in the Middle East? A nice first start would be to quit funding Wahabbist Islam and building madrassas around the world so their lies won’t continue to be told.

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  25. Chimera Gothic says:

    Peace in the Middle East within 3 years guaranteed. Saudi led conferation (similar to US) and coming off dependence on oil sales. The Saudi (and the other countries in the GCC Coalition) Vision 2030 plans are awesome. Financial independence and prosperity for their citizens, a Benign Constitutional Monarchy, modernization of their religion, education, society etc.

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