Chinese President Xi Jinping Promotes Central Banking Control…

Sometimes we just sits and thinks… and sometimes we just thinks and laughs… This truly is the greatest of times to be alive and engaged.  All, because, Trump stuff.

After reminding ourselves there’s no longer an actual media apparatus (per se’) in the historic sense of assembling facts, just facts, that explain situations; we once again see a brutal example of an answer to a simple economic question ignored by media.

Yesterday, within a MAGAnomics discussion thread, the question was asked:

♦ How long do you think the Chinese economy can sustain itself? When will it run out of steam? Could you maybe add some meat to the bone of what a trade war may look like with China, in terms of what we can expect to happen?

My own reply was rather simplistic:

♦ A trade confrontation with China will remove the cloak of capitalism and show the true colors of totalitarian control behind the Chinese economic mask.  Confronting China’s Oz, economically, is simply sending in Toto (Wilbur Ross) to pull back the curtain. Easy peasy.

As if on cue… here comes Xi Jinping to deliver the audio visual demonstration.

SHANGHAI (Reuters)China’s central bank will take on a beefed up role managing systemic risk in the country’s financial markets, state broadcaster China Central Television said on Saturday, citing President Xi Jinping.

Speaking at the National Financial Work Conference, Xi said China would set up a financial stability committee under the State Council, boost the People’s Bank of China’s (PBOC) role managing financial risks and create more cohesive regulation.

“We will strengthen the PBOC’s role in macro-prudential management and in averting systemic risk,” Xi said, adding the country would increase the accountability of regulators and the supervision over regulatory bodies.

Ahead of the closed-door event, economists had widely expected the meeting to focus on how the central bank could better coordinate with the country’s three main financial regulators to manage risk in the financial system.

China’s financial regulators are gathered in Beijing in a once-in-five-years huddle to discuss how better to tackle weakness in the financial system. The most recent meeting in 2012 yielded no significant policy change.  (read more)

“China’s central bank will take on a beefed up role managing systemic risk in the country’s financial markets.”

{{Insert laughing self here.}}   DUH !  Ya don’t say…

Anyone who has been following along will note the entire Chinese economy is beyond tenuous, at best.  Their economic enterprise is not a free market, has never been a free market and is only as sustainable as the imported dollars are available to keep it propped up.  Without expansive export growth it stalls, then contracts.

As such, when considering the trade and economic leverage that underpins the entire construct, China engaging with the U.S. is like Michael J Fox playing Jenga against U.S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross.

Of course China’s central bank is planning for what lies ahead.  The only annoying part of the entire discussion is that the U.S. media is entirely duplicitous in their hiding of  what it means…

(Bloomberg) Countries from Canada to China have been bracing for the result of a Commerce Department investigation into whether steel imports threaten U.S. national security. Officials within the administration have been debating several options, including raising tariffs on steel imports, according to people briefed on the discussions.

[…]  Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross briefed members of the Senate Finance Committee on the steel investigation on Thursday in Washington. While Commerce has until early next year to hand over the report, Secretary Ross has said he wants to complete it soon, though he already missed a self-imposed deadline at the end of June. Ross on Thursday declined to tell reporters the new target date for finishing the study, after briefing members of the Senate Finance Committee in Washington.

Ross told the lawmakers during the meeting he will present options to the president, who will make the ultimate decision on steel imports, according to Republican Senator Pat Roberts, who attended the briefing. (more)

China is indeed an issue, however we don’t import as much steel from China as we do from Canada.  And lookie who was getting all BFF’s yesterday:

…”On behalf of”..

Yes, that’s me laughing again.  Because…

Vice President Mike Pence met with Prime Minister of Canada Justin Trudeau today after both leaders addressed the National Governors Association in Providence, Rhode Island.

On behalf of President Trump, the Vice President recognized the importance of the beneficial US trade and investment relationship with Canada, while expressing the need to work together to address lingering trade disagreements. The two leaders also expressed their shared commitment to update and modernize NAFTA through constructive renegotiation. (link)

MAGAnomics: “MAGAnomics is for everyone, but especially for those who left for work this morning in the dark but came home after their kids were asleep. It’s for those who are working part-time but praying for a full-time job. It’s for folks whose savings are as exhausted as they are.

This president hears you. He knows America’s greatness doesn’t spring from higher taxes or unnecessary regulations or broken welfare programs. It doesn’t come from government at all. It comes from you.” (link)


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194 Responses to Chinese President Xi Jinping Promotes Central Banking Control…

  1. Joe Blow says:

    Should be interesting to see how long China keeps up this little dog & pony show. This is a game they can’t win.

    Liked by 18 people

    • Daniel says:

      What will they do with all of that US debt?

      Liked by 3 people

      • Bert Darrell says:

        “What will they do with all of that US debt?” Use it as strong foreign currency reserve and collect interest .

        China’s ownership of US debt is no problem for the US. It gives them no significant leverage over us. If they want to dump a part or all of it they’ll find out that their are shooting their own feet. They are not stupid and there is not doubt that they would prefer not to have holes in their feet (a metaphor). Even for Chinese, comfortable walking is a necessity.

        Liked by 14 people

      • litlbit2 says:

        What will they do with all the natural resources they have been buying up, paying high dollars for to aid their indursty iu shoving cheap protected goods to the USA?

        Iron ore?

        Liked by 1 person

        • A2 says:

          Iron ore imports by China this year are on course to exceed 1 billion metric tons by a comfortable margin, breaking 2016’s record, after first-half figures showed another jump in cargoes and highlighted the ability of the top steelmaker to absorb rising supplies.


      • oldschool64 says:

        I know it’s a little cliché, but it bares repeating:

        When you owe the bank a million dollars they own you.

        When you owe the bank a trillion dollars you own them!

        Liked by 9 people

        • Jimmy Jack says:

          Thanks for putting it this way. It makes thinks more clear to me.

          Liked by 1 person

        • maiingankwe says:

          You beat me to it, and by a couple of hours by the looks of it. 😊 I love that line from Sundance. Loved it so much I’ve told my husband more than once.

          I think the reason why I like it so much is because after reading that part from Sundance, a light finally clicked on. I had been wondering the same thing, and it had really been bothering me, so it’s such a relief now being able to understand at least part of all of this.

          I think it’s amazing that we are not only able to remember, but understand some of these difficult economic concepts. Sure, it makes sense now and it sounds so easy, almost to the point of feeling a bit foolish, but I sure was struggling. Still am in some parts, but I will get there, especially with Treepers like you who are kind of enough to explain nicely and patiently to others. You rock Oldschool64. Thank you,


          • livlovely101 says:

            I also tend to feel like I’m wandering through the forest looking for anything that resembles a path whenever I am reading about economics.

            So when sundance gives the Nutshell version, it is very helpful and much appreciated!

            Liked by 2 people

      • Brian L says:

        Whatever. There’s unpaid Chinese bonds equal to about three quarters of the amount they have in US owned by citizens of the United States.


      • With the dollar increasing in value, especially over the medium to long term, whatever China wishes to sell, there will be plenty of buyers. The only problem will be in the very short term, if they dump it suddenly. But that will be no biggy. I can’t be bothered to look it up, but as I understand it, China has halved their holdings of dollars over the past 8 years, with no impact on the USA.

        Their real lock on the USA is how much they depend on us to buy their stuff. Unfair trade practices, market dumping, currency manipulation and price gouging has allowed them to squash accepted free market practices, and has damaged not just USA producers, but also other nations too, such as Canada, UK, Sweden, France and Japan, who all find it harder to compete and survive. But their model is not sustainable. At some point, these nations are going to want to compete again, and they have the spare capacity within their economies, whilst China are over leveraged – massively. (I leave Germany out of the equation, as their loss has been offset by taking advantage of the EU and the Euro, which has massively devalued their exports at the expense of other EU nations, hence the collapse of Mediterranean industrial economies such as Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal – another communist scam coming to an end)

        We had a crash in 2008. We are still a free market economy (just). When China crashes, it may well be the fall of communism and massive civil strife, including a permanent loss of political power for Xi and friends.

        China’s problem is not the economy. Its her politics. The communist party control it all. When their economy tanks, and it will, they will all turn on the party, more so than in Tianamen Square. This time around, they’ve had a taste of capitalism. As Sundance said yesterday, toto will pull the curtain to reveal the real OZ, and remind us all that we have been dancing with the devil since 1989. Our mantra of “we defeated communism with the fall of the Berlin Wall” will sound hollow and weak, as it dawns on us that we have given away our industries to the very system we had convinced ourselves had disappeared.

        And when China blows, it’s going to blow. They are all very polite, right up to the point when they are not. At which point, their anger boils over. Maybe they should deal with NK, give up their proxy rouge state, and draw back their island building in the South China Sea. It could be a better choice.

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        • Maquis says:

          Excellent. Well done.

          I must note, I never bought the “Comminism is dead!” BS. Ever. I was on Nuclear Alert with Tankers when George HW Bush came over the alert radio system and told us to stand down. That was really something, but it didn’t give me warm fuzzies.

          Russia had long before declared that at some point they would make such dramatic and convincing overtures of peace that we would fall all over ourselves to accept, and when our guard was down, bam, they would crush us with their clenched fist. I did my homework, I knew who I was fighting, I knew their “prophecies”, it took years to accept the new reality, years I tell you!

          However, I knew China was still out there, and there’s Communism everywhere, including (especially?) in DC.
          It. Is. Not. Dead.




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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      You can judge how nervous China is getting by how loudly North Korea is screaming.

      Liked by 29 people

    • Matthew Musson says:

      They won’t run out of steam. They will fall off a cliff.
      Anyone who can is getting money out of the country in expectation of the coming crash. You didn’t think they really wanted to live in those condos in Canada did you?

      Liked by 11 people

      • dekester says:

        You now your stuff MM.

        Our Canadian real estate market ( in Vancouver and Toronto) is fuelled by massive money laundering schemes from overseas.

        Last week a realtor neighbour and acquaintance sold his two bed two bath tear down, on a decent lot for $1,500,000 ( Can)

        He figures the money from off shore is slowing significantly, so he has cashed in. He says the numbers don’t lie.

        Your President and his team, are truly, truly brilliant.

        Off to a BBQ now..I will be wearing my ” If you are offended, I will help you pack” PDJT tee shirt.

        Maybe my Trump socks too.

        That should set the cat among the pigeons.

        Thanks to all CTH supporters.

        God bless PDJT.

        Liked by 44 people

        • Sylvia Avery says:

          Thanks dekester, interesting local color! These anecdotes Treepers provide about what they see in their area always add a lot of veracity to the overall thesis. Enjoy the BBQ.

          Liked by 5 people

          • dekester says:

            BBQ was nice thanks..a Liberal couple ( you can just tell can’t you.) we’re not impressed. Three of us PDJT supporters made them squirm.


            Liked by 7 people

          • A2 says:

            Most of my Chinese relatives in Vancouver, mostly Richmond (mini Chinatown composed of PRC newbies, Taiwan, and Hong Kong people the earliest transplants) are against Trudeau. They don’t want their investments tanked and they hate the muslim influx to put it kindly. That goes for the other pole, Toronto.

            Canada has slowed, by new restrictions, money coming in from the PRC et al. Many are now trying to sell at the top of the market. Others, who have political reasons for investing are hanging on.

            I believe the Canadian gov is well aware of the ‘money laundering’ aspect. However, Trudeau will hem and haw and try to forestall the reckoning. He is a POS.

            Liked by 3 people

        • Orygun says:

          Awesome T-shirt but in my neck of the woods I could get beat up just going to the mailbox. Liberals are so “liberal” you know.

          Didn’t know your real estate market was so bonkers!

          Liked by 3 people

        • cjzak says:

          Hope you’re having fun Dek!

          Liked by 2 people

        • A2 says:

          According to a news report in the Chinese-language Overseas Chinese Daily Qiaobao (Los Angeles May 1, 2017), : ” Chinese anti corruption “fox hunting” squad has used the services of at least one US detective starting several years ago to track down corrupt officials. The detective they hired commented in an anonymous interview that the Chinese corruption fighter seem to be corrupt themselves. They only work two days a week and often go to Las Vegas to gamble. One of the corrupt official chasers even asked him how to best smuggle money out of China to the USA.” The Chinese gov calls it ‘special rendition’

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      • Jimmy Jack says:

        This is why so many sales of high end real estate are made to Chinese (and Russians, while we’re at it but for different reasons). The Chinese are buying up luxury London, NYC, and San Francisco as quickly as they can.


        • Not just high end RE. Here in Australia we receive a lot of Chinese students, for periods of 4 years and more for post-grads.
          These students receive interest free loans from the Chinese Govt, buy up homes near their school and sell on (you say flip in the US?) after graduation, hence making a tidy capital gains after having lived rent free,
          This scheme has pushed home prices through the roof for the locals who don’t have access to interest free loans.

          Liked by 2 people

    • ok4ayl says:

      How many “Ghost Cities” can the central committee build before it all collapses? Wilbur and POTUS are “builders” and they know what’s going on in China, and the Chinese know they know…..Pass the popcorn!

      Liked by 2 people

  2. Chuck says:

    If you ignore all the other nonsense this is truly the most fascinating stuff. Better than the best fiction out there.

    Liked by 24 people

  3. Sylvia Avery says:

    Go get ’em, Wilbur!

    This article suggest Xi suspects what may be coming. I don’t get it. If I saw the Trump Train Express barrelling down the tracks towards me, I’d be trying to stop the train not just frantically trying to burrow under the tracks so I don’t creamed.

    Bad analogy but when I mean is why, if Xi and his henchmen have some sense of what might be heading their way, don’t they play ball with us regarding North Korea since they know that is their ticket to ride? Maybe all of those 25,000 Chinese spies in the US I was reading about are telling Xi not to worry, President Trump will be removed from office any day now. SMH.

    It is interesting to see the pieces falling together. News we can use right here folks, and analysis you aren’t going to find anywhere else.

    Liked by 20 people

    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      North Korea IS China’s saber. And China has been rattling, rattling, and rattling some more.

      Liked by 19 people

      • Sylvia Avery says:

        Yes. I am wondering if Xi is aware of his country’s economic instability and that Trump is likely to make it all fall down if he doesn’t do something regarding North Korea, why would he not actually DO something about North Korea and save his economy? Don’t actually get that.

        I believe I would rather give up my trained monkey, or at least curtail its activities, than give up my economic stability which could lead to political instability.

        Liked by 7 people

        • mimbler says:

          I’m thinking NK is his ace in the hole, and he wants to get top dollar for it. The closer to the edge NK gets, China’s influence over them becomes more valuable.

          China may just be waiting a bit longer to get top dollar in US concessions for them to control NK.

          Definitely brinksmanship on both sides. One thing for sure, China will not “fix” NK. They will just postpone the confrontation for more concessions later.

          I think PDJT will make the best deal possible, but with the cards China holds they will do ok as well,

          Liked by 6 people

          • Sylvia Avery says:

            Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. Sadly. But totally realpolitik. At least I trust our guys who have their hands on the levers. PDJT and team will do a fine job of negotiating for us.

            Liked by 3 people

          • Orygun says:

            North Korea and China have been playing the old “good cop, bad cop” routine for as long as I can remember. The sad thing is the Korean people trapped in that prison of a country and the Communist chinese are just as guilty as Crazy Kim for their plight.

            Liked by 4 people

            • Trent Telenko says:

              The DPRK has long been a tool for China to proliferate nuclear weapons to client/rogue states like Iran and Pakistan in order to destroy US Post-Cold War Hegemony.

              The Norks reputation as a “Rogue state” beyond China’s control was used to intimidate Pres Clinton the same way the Norks intimidated Sony and Cinemark over their anti-Un movie.

              See —

              DIA: North Korea Planned Attacks on US Nuclear Plants

              Five commando units trained for strikes, sabotage
              BY: Bill Gertz
              December 18, 2014 4:59 pm

              North Korea dispatched covert commando teams to the United States in the 1990s to attack nuclear power plants and major cities in a conflict, according to a declassified Defense Intelligence Agency report.

              The DIA report, dated Sept. 13, 2004, reveals that five units of covert commandos were trained for the attacks inside the country.

              According to the report, the “Reconnaissance Bureau, North Korea, had agents in place to attack American nuclear power plants.”

              The document states that the North Korean Ministry of People’s Armed Forces, the ministry in charge of the military, “established five liaison offices in the early 1990s, to train and infiltrate operatives into the United States to attack nuclear power plants and major cities in case of hostilities.”

              “One of the driving forces behind the establishment of the units and infiltration of operatives was the slow progress in developing a multi-stage ballistic missile.”

              North Korea is known to have at least two long-range missiles capable of hitting the United States, the Taepodong-2 intercontinental ballistic missile, and the KN-08 road-mobile ICBM, which has not yet been flight tested.

              The report indicates that power plants would be targeted for attack “in the event of hostilities between the United States and DPRK” – the acronym for the Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea.

              The Reconnaissance Bureau is part of the Ministry of People’s Armed Forces and is in charge of the estimated 60,000 North Korean special operations commandos.

              The heavily redacted report is what is known as a raw intelligence report, consisting of information possibly provided to the United States by a defector or agent, or possibly obtained from electronic surveillance.

              Reconnaissance Bureau commandos have undertaken terrorist operations in the past in South Korea and other locations.

              But the DIA report is the first intelligence document indicating North Korea had planned attacks inside the United States and dispatched agents for the operations.

              Disclosure of the report, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, comes amid threats by presumed North Korean agents to conduct September 11-style terrorist attacks against U.S. movie theaters.

              The threats coincided with efforts by North Korea to prevent the showing Dec. 25 of the Sony Pictures film “The Interview,” a comedy involving a fictional plot to assassinate North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

              The U.S. government determined that the massive hack targeting against Sony, which stole an estimated 100 terabytes of data including unreleased films, has been determined to be the work of North Korean hackers or those working for the regime of Kim Jong Un.

              S.Y. Lee, a Department Homeland Security spokesman, declined to comment on the 2004 document.

              A DHS official said the department is aware of the threat to attack movie theaters.

              “We are still analyzing the credibility of these statements, but at this time there is no credible intelligence to indicate an active plot against movie theaters within the United States,” the official said.

              The official said DHS will adjust its security procedures to protect Americans.

              “This includes continued, regular information sharing with our state, local, federal and international partners, builds on ongoing work, such as enhanced protection at federal facilities,” the official said, adding that the public is encouraged to report suspicious activity to law enforcement agencies.

              The FBI, in response to a Freedom of Information Act request, said it was unaware of the DIA intelligence report on North Korean commando teams. In a July 9, 2012 letter, the FBI stated that it was unable to find any file records on North Korea’s Reconnaissance Bureau.

              An FBI spokesman had no immediate comment. A DIA spokesman did not return emails seeking comment on the documents.

              A second DIA document reveals that an American defector identified only as “Jackson” and as a former Air Force officer was working inside North Korea for the Reconnaissance Bureau.

              The 1998 document stated that the officer had been “captured by North Korea” and was teaching North Koreans “U.S. Special Forces tactics, English [language], and interrogation techniques as chief of psychological operations studies at Madonghui Military College to North Korean seaborne snipers.”

              The American also “visited the 52nd Seaborne Sniper Battalion to teach U.S. Special Forces tactics, American English, and interrogation techniques since before 1983,” the report said, noting that the training was carried out under the Reconnaissance Bureau.

              The reference to “American English” is an indication the training may have been preparation for the future dispatch of North Korean snipers to the United States.

              Mark Sauter, a security adviser to corporations and long-time North Korea watcher said the documents clearly raise alarms about whether North Korea could follow through on threats to conduct 9/11-style terrorist attacks.

              “What they’ve done by the Sony hack is shown they’re certainly willing to attack a U.S. corporation,” said Sauter, who obtained the documents. “Now they’re threating a physical attack along the lines of 9/11 and it is certainly possible they could have agents inside the United States capable of carrying out terrorist attacks.”

              “North Korean agents have committed terrorist attacks and kidnappings around the world,” said Sauter, a former Special Forces and infantry officer. “Why wouldn’t they send agents to the homeland of their biggest enemy?”

              Sauter noted that it took the U.S. government weeks to determine that North Korea was capable of hacking a major company. “It would be a mistake for the government now to assume North Korea is not capable of launching a terrorist attack in the U.S.,” he said. “They may or may not have the desire to attack the U.S. homeland now or in the future, but there’s a good chance they have at least some capability.”

              Bill Cowan, a former Army Special Forces officer, agreed and called the document an alarming disclosure.

              “This demonstrates the North Koreans have capabilities most of us didn’t realize they had,” Cowan said. “It talks about them being on U.S. soil to carry out attacks and that takes the threat to a whole new level. And they’re probably still here.”

              Past Reconnaissance Bureau operations included the bombing in Rangoon, Burma in 1983 in an attempt to kill then-South Korean President Chun Do-hwan. Three senior South Korean government ministers were killed in the attack.

              Bureau commandos also carried out the attack on South Korea’s presidential Blue House in 1968 in an attempt to assassinate then-President Park Chung Hee, father of current South Korean President Park Geun-hye.

              The Reconnaissance Bureau also is in charge of covert operations to infiltrate South Korea through tunnels and seaborne insertion of intelligence personnel.

              North Korean intelligence activities in the United States have been limited.

              In 2003, the FBI arrested Korean-American businessman John Joungwoong Yai, who was identified as a North Korean agent. He pleaded guilty to financial charges and served two years in prison.

              Yai was paid for sending reports to North Korea through China based on publicly available sources. He had been tasked by North Korean officials to locate a North Korean agent who had defected.

              Documents in the case revealed plans by North Korea to try and plant one of its agents inside the U.S. government.


          • Maquis says:

            I think it’s high time to inform Xi that any harm visited upon the US by their useful brat, NK, will fall upon their own heads ten-fold, and that we will extract from them every ounce of wealth they possess to recompense our citizens for their losses, and to ensure China can do no more harm.

            Xi’s rabid dog needs to be seen by China as the liability judgment from Hell.

            Liked by 3 people

        • Coldeadhands says:

          Another intangible is how much economic downturn will the “proletariat” tolerate before getting antsy? 🐜 🐜🐜🐜🐜

          Liked by 3 people

        • wolfmoon1776 says:

          Xi is a fairly doctrinaire communist. One of the first things he did coming in was to show his commie-conservative credentials in a variety of ways by domestic policies. And that means, he is not above making the Chinese people suffer to keep them in line. This guy could do another Tiananmen, no problem.

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      • Q&A says:

        Exactly. China is like the godfather, presenting a benign smiling face, clean hands, and a well-fitting suit while North Korea is China’s thug strong-arm lieutenant who houses the evil laboratories as well as provides dark tech and slave labor to China in the tens of thousands. No doubt China runs North Korea at the highest positions, allowing the chubby one to stay via this arrangement. No small country could execute all their intelligensia and function in military tech. Implanted Chinese are manning the science and tech behind the missiles and computer hacking. China’s economy is very much intertwined with North Korea. Unification of the two Koreas would be China’s nightmare.

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        • TimeIsNow says:

          I think China is ambivalent towards NK. They do not really like insanity, but they would “lose face” helping to take down their former client.

          Liked by 1 person

        • Sylvia Avery says:

          I expect you are right. I wish you weren’t.

          Liked by 1 person

        • Trent Telenko says:

          This was a “regime ending offense” for Syria that the Bush Administration did not have the stomach to follow through on because the trail lead back from the Iran, through the DPRK and ultimately to China.


          CIA: Syrian site was North Korean plutonium-producing nuclear reactor
          posted at 11:15 am on April 23, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

          The CIA will tell Congress today that the North Koreans had begun to build a nuclear reactor at a site in Syria bombed by the Israelis last year. The timing of the briefing appears related to the expected resolution of the six-nation plan to disarm the DPRK in the next few weeks, according to the Los Angeles Times. It may create new political difficulties for the Bush administration, but more likely it is intended to fulfill a Congressional demand for information to clear hurdles for ratification of the agreement with North Korea:
          CIA officials will tell Congress on Thursday that North Korea had been helping Syria build a plutonium-based nuclear reactor, a U.S. official said, a disclosure that could touch off new resistance to the administration’s plan to ease sanctions on Pyongyang.
          The CIA officials will tell lawmakers that they believe the reactor would have been capable of producing plutonium for nuclear weapons but was destroyed before it could do so, the U.S. official said, apparently referring to a suspicious installation in Syria that was bombed last year by Israeli warplanes.

          The CIA officials also will say that though U.S. officials have had concerns for years about ties between North Korea and Syria, it was not until last year that new intelligence convinced them that the suspicious facility under construction in a remote area of Syria was a nuclear reactor, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity when discussing plans for the briefing.

          By holding closed, classified briefings for members of several congressional committees, the administration will break a long silence on North Korean-Syrian nuclear cooperation and on what it knows about last year’s destruction of the Syrian facility. Nonetheless, it has been widely assumed for months that many in the administration considered the site a nuclear installation.

          Members of Congress have demanded a briefing on this subject for months. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI), the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, had actually wanted testimony before the entire Congress to demonstrate the danger of proliferation that North Korea represents. Now, with the Bush administration pressuring Pyongyang to come clean on all of its nuclear activities, it appears that the White House is ready to go public in an attempt to force Kim Jong-Il into compliance.

          This answers a question that really hadn’t generated much doubt. Israel doesn’t usually risk air strikes into hostile Arab nations unless the stakes are significant. Even more revealing, Syria didn’t register any strenuous public objections after the clearly provocative attack on its nation. That could only mean that Syria had something so important to hide that it didn’t want international attention drawn to the site. That either meant a nuclear-weapons site or Saddam’s missing WMD.

          Now we have our answer. It looks like Israel prevented another Osirak from completion, and with it a deadly shift in the balance of power in the Middle East.

          How does this affect the status of the agreement with Kim? It won’t generate meaningful opposition from Congress, which will be disinclined to oppose a multilateral agreement for peace and normalization after years of Democratic accusations of war-mongering against Bush. The agreement itself doesn’t take effect until the DPRK meets its obligations. This looks like a shot across Kim’s bow, letting him know that if he doesn’t start the disclosure process, the US will do so itself in a manner which may cause him problems with his other clients


      • Jenny R. says:

        N. Korea is not just a client state of China (Russia is always waiting in the wings — it always has with N.Korea — and there is a fair amount of tension there that never gets talked about openly by anyone). N. Korea is saber rattling because it knows it has a good bargaining situation with China now; China can not afford to lose it’s influence there, nor can it risk N. Korean aggression setting off a conflict of any type, not really). China should have taken the opportunity to reduce central control and encouraged domestic consumption; then it would be in a better position on the foreign as well as the domestic front. But this would threaten the party leadership’s comfortable lives, so they are going to do what they have always done before rather than trying something new — it will likely lead to problems for them in the future. China could run the risk of either foreign confrontation or domestic turmoil in the not so distant future. China is over a barrel methinks.

        Trudeau is on one hand kissing butt, but on the other he is making statements that could essentially be read as encouraging U.S. governors to resist the America First plan:

        Because rather than protecting his own economy, he has sunk it. And he is so totally bound up in the globalist movement (he just gave a sizeable chunk of Canadian money to both the UN and the Clinton Foundation), he really doesn’t have much maneuvering space at this point.
        Canada is over a barrel as well too, methinks.

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        • maiingankwe says:

          I was a bit surprised he gave the hag’s foundation so much money. I would’ve thought crooked countries would’ve stopped giving them money considering they are no longer in control of government power. So, it really makes me wonder what the heck is going on and what promises the hag and her circle have promised Trudeau.


          • Maquis says:

            Seventh-Floor, US State Department Global Shadow Government…they had planned to retain power regardless of the election outcome. But they got fired. Go T-Rex!

            However, I suspect that Soros and the Clintons have a nice hollow volcano island to reconstitute their Seventh-Circle of Hell Government in Waiting… I wish I was being sarcastic here, but I just know there’s a Hard Coup in their heads,

            I will never trust any Globalist Scum nor their useful monsters. I truly hope that we are watching every move they make, to include former denizens of the Seventh-Floor, every Clinton and Obama appointee, official, and assorted flunkies.

            Soros and his entire empire need to be destroyed.

            All our Vast Leftist Conspiracy friends need to be only one false move away from endless incarceration and eternal damnation.

            Only one.



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            • maiingankwe says:

              You and I are on the same page. I just finished writing to Sylvia on a different thread something along the same lines.

              I don’t trust any of them either and they do scare the hell out of me. I have to just keep reassuring myself we are in good hands and our President is smarter than most. He won’t show his hand, so I’m thinking and hoping he knows more of what they are doing than they think he knows.

              I also just have to keep praying as well as keep an eye out the best way I know how. Being here is a step in the right direction too.

              Be well, and stay strong,


    • Sam says:

      It’s called leverage. China want N. Korea to cause as much trouble as possible so china can extract as much benefit from any trade deals when they come to the negotiating table. As trump say, Xi Ping will want whats best for china and Trump will want whats best for U.S. and that’s OK.

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    • Jimmy Jack says:

      I have read articles suggesting Xi is a CIA asset of some type. His daughter was somehow allowed to attend Harvard under a different name. Bears thinking about in this calculus.

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      • wolfmoon1776 says:

        I’ll be blunt – the way Trump was treated by the Deep State, I’d almost think the CIA was a Xi asset.

        But I hear you. Before Trump, everything was cozy between China and the future USSA. Now, not so simple.


      • A2 says:

        If Xi was a ‘CIA’ asset he would be gone. Show trials.

        His daughter tried to fly under the radar and got her degree and went back to Beijing where she quietly works on humanitarian relief of natural disaster victims, unlike many of the elite’s children who get caught on Page three for their excesses.


  4. Bree says:

    Love how this is playing out. Thirty plus years President Trump has voiced his concerns with China, now he has the power and smarts to do what’s right. America first wasn’t just a saying, it was his promise. Thank you 45, we love ya!!! And is I may, a shout out to one of my fave Wilburine.

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    • piper567 says:

      I Love that photo of our Wilburine (the one w/the N/S Bobbsy Twins) !
      He looks as if he totally knows he just scalped someone, dead-level gaze, walking away in complete confidence, straightening his jacket after dusting his hands off.4Dchess.
      Love me some Wilbur !
      He talks so quietly and carries Such a Big Stick.
      V smart guy…really glad he’s ours.
      Thank God for these men coming forward to serve our fortunate Country.

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    • WSB says:

      “[…] Commerce Secretary Wilburine Ross briefed members of the Senate Finance Committee on the steel investigation on Thursday in Washington.”



  5. Optimistic? says:

    My bet. The Anti-Dumping Public Announcement includes the phrase “other substantial national security objective.” IOW, Sop North Korea, or we really turn up the heat.

    The bad part is that any trade war will affect the US Economy, and the economies throughout the World. But that is China and North Korea’s problem. If Fatty Whitewalls gets rid of its nukes, or China gets rid of him, there will be no trade war. If not, a trade war is still better than emptying an Ohio Class onto the NK population.

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    • Maquis says:

      It’d be rough, but we have men rich off trade with China that could then build factories here with their wealth. Bezos of Amazon fame could not only be the world’s top merchantilist, he could become a Captain of Industry, Making America Great one-thoisand American jobs at a time.

      Trump has also gamed this out a billion times in his head and with some remarkably close-mouthed associates. He’s got this. There is a plan and resources that we can’t even imagine yet.

      I’ve never had this level of confidence in any other human being in my entire half-century sojourn in this World. Though Sundance rates pretty danged high as well.



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  6. joshua says:

    The Chinese do not act quickly, just stealthily with deception. They have gotten complacent via the USA stupidity and self dealing greedy fat cats padding their own pockets….no one expected Trump to be President….and no one thought he was a competent a businessman as he is…..and ALWAYS has been….that is, other than us treepers. We saw what others laughed about in their elite snobbery.

    Now we just have to protect our President.

    I am prepared to not buy anything advertised on any media outlet that continues the anti Trump campaign, and to advise the corporations that I am joined by a lot of people who will never buy anything from them, and will bad mouth them publically until they make the media change tactics or stop advertising with them until they stop the war against Trump.


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  7. TwoLaine says:

    And the fireworks are just beginning. 😉

    Liked by 4 people

  8. Charlie says:

    “It comes from you” brought tears, reality in the name of President Trump.
    Senators – Congressmen – lobbyist, your chickens have come home to roost.

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  9. wolfmoon1776 says:

    America stopped paying for NATO’s military, and Merkel had to abandon “Meals for Muslims”.

    America is going to stop paying for China’s military, and Xi will have to abandon “Bullets for Americans”.

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  10. Alison says:

    Truly, SD & some astute commenters are uncanny in your timing.

    I can go head-to-head with experts on many financial topics. But I confess macro econ, nationalized banking & Fed Reserve simply don’t compute in my noggin’.

    As long as SD is showing pandas vs wolverines, I’m sleeping well at night.


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    • Albertus Magnus says:


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      • The words that brought a chill to me: “. . . managing financial risks and create more cohesive regulation. . . . Xi said, adding the country would increase . . .the supervision over regulatory bodies.”

        If I were a Chinese financial regulator, I would be quaking in my boots. I’m sure there are Chinese historical parallels to late Roman history, when an Emperor made tax collecting a compulsory and hereditary profession. Nobody wanted to work in what used to be a very lucrative profession. The public did not treat them well.

        “Supervision” is a euphemism for process of identifying scapegoats, if necessary.

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        • WSB says:

          Yes, and if you are Apple, Microsoft, or anyone else who is holding anything with a ‘Made in China’ on it…what do you do?

          Liked by 1 person

        • FreeLayerOK says:

          Interesting thoughts about regulation…

          Looking at this from an F.A. Hayek perspective (The Road to Serfdom), when a communist minded leadership increases regulation on its nations industries, it’s because the leaders are in fear of losing control of those industries production.

          Historically, controlling a nations economy centrally always fails only 100% of the time. The communist leader way of thinking (we can centrally plan our industries and what they produce for everyone) proceeds to keep applying more controls, regulation and punishments upon the workers (we want to produce what others actually need). The labor force finally rebels against the government authority. The communists seek to further avoid losing control of the people and see no way out except to choose totalitarianism and absolute power.

          SD says in this post that China has already reached the state of totalitarianism, which indicates a nations leaders very afraid of economic collapse. President Trump’s leverage over China is hefty.

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  11. carrierh says:

    So great to have a leader at the wheel and this means many here and abroad are biting their nails because he doesn’t fit the old pattern. YEA!

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  12. Albertus Magnus says:

    Only because I am stupid unless I have things spelled completely out for me, what are the implications of the VP meeting with Trudeau about trade in all of this?

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  13. alliwantissometruth says:

    The smoke & mirrors of the manipulation of the markets, trade & covert financial dealings are about to be doused & shattered, leaving the elites & their minions with no place to hide

    The weapon is sunshine & the wound is an informed populace

    When people realize the money governments use to wheel & deal doesn’t fall off tree’s, but comes from their pockets, & when they realize they’ve been had & all the benefits from their money goes to the government & those in the upper echelon, the jig is up

    Most people are OK with corrupt government as long as said government is corrupt on the world stage in order to help them, & the profits are put back into into the communal pot. But it never works that way. By the nature of their corruption, they’re thieves & scoundrels, & they’re only in it for themselves

    Business / governmental dealings that are based on negotiation where give & take is the norm, along with transparency & openness, is fair & equitable for all concerned

    The people of the world are sick & tired of being played for fools by the elites & their governmental minions. The people create the wealth, the societies & the systems that govern them, & President Trump is reminding the people of just that

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    • WSB says:

      Just think of all of the high rises we would be seeing in Africa if our ‘Foreign Aid’ had gone to the people rather than the dictators and skimmed back by the Clinton Global Initiative.



      • Alison says:

        and now Bill Gates is recommending – instead of bringing refugees here – that we ‘invest’ in the African continent.

        Sorry, Bill. The UN & NGOs have been stealing our money from US Treasury my entire life. Nothing to show for it but fat cats in walled compounds here & abroad.


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        • WSB says:

          Yup! Let him use his own money.

          Liked by 3 people

          • Maquis says:

            Amen! Why are those guys like Gates so, so, such Skin-Flints!?!

            I mean really, they start foundations so they can distribute OTHER people’s money.

            They harass government to give out OUR money.

            What is the point of becoming rich, if your legacy is ultimately, no more than simple bloody greed?


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  14. uptothere says:

    The Chinese economy has been financed almost entirely with a crazy debt load. Removing just a minor portion of their exports could have a catastrophic negative impact on their economy. The US needs to ensure that, whatever happens, it will have a minimal impact on our own economy.

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    • WSB says:

      If we are able to influence the reduction of Chinese exports, the Chinese will have to creatively think how to offset that.

      The only problem for the Chinese is that they do not have freedom of thought. They only steal it.


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    • FreeLayerOK says:

      “The US needs to ensure that, whatever happens, it will have a minimal impact on our own economy.”

      It would appear that MAGAnomics has this type of thinking reversed — The US seeks to ensure that, whatever happens, it will have the biggest impact on our economy.


      • Tom says:

        I can’t think of a single thing we currently import from China that we couldn’t make better here ourselves, or import from friendlies like Japan or Canada. There is little downside to a trade war with China, unless you own stock in China-mart.

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        • Maquis says:

          Yup. We got petroleum. We can make plastic doohickeys just fine. We spun up pretty quick for WWII’s war machinery, we can do it now. After all, Bezos and a number of other folks have Billions and Billions that could supplant China’s manufacturing behemoth.

          After all, again, in a sense those were our factories that went over there, and some got stolen from here, so it’s only fitting that the profiteers pony up the cash to rebuild them here.

          Americans can build the factories. Americans can run them. America’s fabulously wealthy can pay for that, they’ll be repaid to boot, Americans can make danged great stuff, if you keep the Unions out of the way.

          We’ll buy American, again, and so will the rest of the World, again.

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  15. missmarple2 says:


    Is the stock market continuing to climb partly because of investment from Chinese who are trying to park their money in a safe place?

    President Trump made 3 separate tweets today about the stock market. That seemed unusual to me and I wonder if this had something to do with it. Thanks for an answer when you have time, because I am pretty stupid about this stuff.

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    • missmarple2 says:


      Doggone it, no matter how many times I proofread, I mess something up!

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    • Q&A says:

      Not just the Chinese, but people from all over the world, as well as Americans themselves are recognizing the strength and stability of investing in the US. A lot of institutions have been sitting on their money, waiting for the stagnation to lift, and the rising stock market gives them confidence to invest, to make more in returns than where they have their money parked. The stock market is also reactive, liking Trump’s plans to lift regulations and address other economic issues, including taxes.

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      • Maquis says:

        When Congress grows up and gives up on hoping for that coup, and takes up and passes PDJT’s tax reforms, we will see repatriated trillions(!) of dollars languishing in overseas accounts to take advantage of a one-time big-time tax break to do so.

        The realized tax income, in a single fiscal year or so, from that repatriation of funds from foreign earnings, even at a temporarily reduced rate, would likely be sufficiently massive to fund PDJT’s Infrastructure Renewal plans. I mean, a Trillion Dollars can go a long ways, if Obama isn’t dispensing it.

        We will see decisions to manufacture here, headquarter here, invest here. Do the math. We are talking an unprecedented explosion of sustainable growth and renewal of the American Spirit. Not only will it tempt labor force dropouts to get back in the game, it will make it a necessity via government policy to push Zero’s Zeros off their duffs for the sake of our economy and our “entitlements” outlay.

        One side of the ledger goes up, productivity, another goes down, namely, the Federal Budget. [Entitlements are anything BUT an entitlement. A Communist coined/imposed that warped term of reference, had to’ve been.]

        Congress is so incorrigible, such moral reprobates and utter cowards, I could, well, I won’t say. Its infuriating. They are treasonous losers. Soon, it won’t be cool to thwart Trump. Soon, they will wish they had finished healthcare, as requested, and jumped on the tax reform like white on rice.

        Both of those are absolutely critical for businesses to succeed, for investors to choose America, for titans to suck it up and rebuild the Rust Belt and expand Coast to Coast. Entrepreneurs will risk making their dreams manifest, adding small businesses offering real full-time jobs.

        Tax revenues will very likely double in a decade or so. Our Military can be scaled up to meet the nature of crises that the World will ALWAYS be capable of unleashing. The Cold War dividend was a SCAM! We face more nuclear enemies and pretend friends now than ever. We will address these needs.

        We will go back to Space. The Moon may be passé to some, but there’s not a better place to practice playing house on Mars.

        Yes, we must go beyond our Moon.

        We must become masters of asteroid course changes, to Sol, preferably, unless we have other uses for it. We must aid Privateers to prospect in the Asteroid Belt, process ore on Luna, or Ceres, and manufacture in high Earth orbit.

        We can build massive ships in orbit, slow-boats to the fringes of our Solar System, ten, twenty, thirty year missions. Ships so robust and spacious and accomodating that they will be family friendly ships, their children borne enroute coming home to Earth as full grown well-seasoned Scientists.

        They will have degrees in Applied-Physics with an emphasis on Warp Bubble Research, and Post-Genesis Genetic Manipulation, with an emphasis on Tardigrade Crypto-Biosis for Stasis Applications, Tardigrade DNA-Self-Repair for Radiation Hardening Applications and Tardigrade Vacuum & Temperature Extremes Tolerance for conveying same to Space-Farers as with the previous Applications noted.

        We can explore Mars, then live in orbit on similar ships while Terra-Forming the now dead planet. Making sojourns to the surface and dipping probes through the atmosphere to monitor progress of the patient. I know how it can be done, but it can only be done if many of those other ventures are successful. (Perchlorates, that’s an issue I haven’t resolved yet…)

        We will find hydrocarbons, liquid hydrocarbons, and ponder their economic value, and their usefulness to Space-Farers.

        Much of the latter part is the Jules Verne in me, and many will be multi-nation projects and farther down the road than I am likely to get to see, but it can happen. It can happen. It should, no, it MUST happen. Pray God, we need Humanity to find its way to the stars.

        If we can force the Navel-Gazers to look beyond their Petty, Envious, Greedy, Mypoic, Judgmental, Hateful, Murderous, Muck-Obsessed, Control-Freakish, War-Mongering Socialism Fetish we can elevate Humanity to create and achieve great great things. God Willing. Its what we as a Species, as Americans, were made to do: Spread our Wings and Soar!

        Beginning with: MAGA!



    • Sylvia Avery says:

      I don’t know anything about this stuff, but your question Miss Marple seems really on point to me.

      We know there has been a lot of foreign investment in the market because our market, since November, has provided growth potential big time. The Chinese would be fools not to invest here.

      Dekester had an interesting observation somewhere on this thread about Chinese investing in Canadian real estate. Looking for safe havens for their money, it seems.

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      • missmarple2 says:

        I don’t know much about the stock market, but I do know Trump. He prefers real estate to stocks, over which you often have no control. (I think I picked that bit of info up in “Art of the Deal.”)

        So it struck me as odd that he posted three times today about the record high in the stock market. Many pundits have commented that he shouldn’t do that as the market can turn on a dime. So I asked myself why he did that.

        1. To attract foreign investors.
        2. To entrap someone who is going to attempt to crash the market. (You can guess who I am thinking about.)

        That’s all I could come up with.

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        • Sylvia Avery says:

          There is always a reason behind the tweet. It is never really just what he says. And it is unusual for him to tweet three times about the stock market when he seldom does.

          That makes it worthy of pondering the WHY of it. Your choices make sense to me. And after reading Sundance’s article it is hard to view these tweets outside of that context. Gotta be connected.

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        • 3. To call attention to another big success during his administration.
          4. To counter gloom and doomers predicting stock market Armageddon in 4… 3… 2…

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      • fleporeblog says:

        Don’t forget the Globalist plan that has worked for the past 30 years.

        ♦Multinational corporations purchase controlling interests in various national elements of developed industrial western nations.
        ♦The Multinational Corporations making the purchases are underwritten by massive global financial institutions, multinational banks.
        ♦The Multinational Banks and the Multinational Corporations then utilize lobbying interests to manipulate the internal political policy of the targeted nation state(s).
        ♦With control over the targeted national industry or interest, the multinationals then leverage export of the national asset (exfiltration) through trade agreements structured to the benefit of lesser developed nation states – where they have previously established a proactive financial footprint.

        The ‘America First’ Trump-Trade Doctrine upsets the entire construct of this multinational export/control dynamic.

        These Globalist bastards have dumped a lot of money in the US and our President has completely blown up their game so they have no choice but to invest it in our country and economy. We have destroyed bullets 3 and 4 above!

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      • piper567 says:

        I know this is a sort of micro-example, but I was living in San Francisco when the deadline for the Chinese to take over Hong Cong was fast approaching.
        The rate at which Chinese money came into SF was stunning, as smart folks fled Asia for USA, people and their families finding a way to retain their wealth. Also at this time ME money, the buying up of real estate, for cash, and Real Luxury Cars, for cash, had a long lasting effect on the native population. (This was serious money: one room flats were going for $250,000, and ME men would buy them for traveling family members…and pay actual cash. No one lived in them…the natives were furious.)
        The long term was a decided shift in the population of, particularly, neighborhoods. Just as in dekester’s anecdote, the natives bailed, in some cases families which had lived in various neighborhoods for generations, principally Italian and Irish families. Although many of these families made out like bandits when selling their property, it was a sad thing to watch…
        So, these events which happen on a global scale really do affect even the little folk.

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  16. MakeAmericaGreat says:

    Great stuff, Sundance. Thanks!

    The Michael J. Fox/Jenga joke was high-quality. That literally made me laugh out loud for a sustained period of time.

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  17. yohio says:

    “When considering the trade and economic leverage that underpins the entire construct, China engaging with the U.S. is like Michael J Fox playing Jenga against U.S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross.” I don’t care you you are that’s funny right there!

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  18. US says:

    I hope the thousands of Chicom spies embedded in the US read Sundance and report home their peril if they do not squash North Korea.

    Liked by 4 people

  19. starfcker says:

    What’s up with Pence’s socks?

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  20. omyword says:

    And all XI had to do was shut down the fat boy. Well, as someone use to tell me, you just put that in your pipe and smoke it :/

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  21. TimeIsNow says:

    You people are usually pretty sharp (and Sundance is almost always incredible), yet most of you are behind the times on this one.

    The fat boy of the NK has gone off the rails and is a monomaniac, even by China’s standards. He has, I’ve heard, threatened even China and Russia with nuking their cities if they interfere with his insane designs. He has a god complex. PDJT is likely asking China to take him out by a physical invasion of Chinese ground troops, which is too much for China at this point. The USA cannot invade the NK with ground troops, but the carriers are likely there to supply air support.

    Yes, NK was once an extension of China some years ago, but this is no longer true. Saving face is super important for China though, so it is now that China is caught between a rock and a hard place by their perception. Yet China is freaked out by Nk’s behavior recently, as well as Russia.


    • WSB says:

      All we need to do is turn off the lights and cell towers.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Tom says:

        No, they have little electriciry as it is. What we need to do is freeze all the bank accounts of the NK elite, and the Chinese /institutions who support him.

        Money rules.

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    • Jenny R. says:

      Well of course he is saber rattling in all directions. He promises both China and Russia allegiance at the expense of the other…that way he gets them both to back him up (or rather, prop up his failed state).
      I believe this is known as a shake down — and N. Korea has been doing it for a while(truly, just threatening to take out such places as S. Korea and Japan could cause a lot of harm to especially China’s economy — they have some money parked there)
      older news, but still valid:
      the counter move was increased economic activity between Russia and N. Korea:
      and into the mix you have this:
      Mind you: the Chinese public has developed a taste for Japanese products as of late to compound the issue.
      and then there is the U.S.
      …it’s just recently the Nork ability to shake down the U.S. and their allies has grown a bit stale, so he has amped up the pressure on China and Russia while keeping up appearances by threatening the U.S. and its allies (which plays to both Russia and China). A direct threat from N. Korea is something that has always been in the background for both countries, but they have never had it so…blatantly stated…before.
      Oh well, sucks to get caught in your own webs; there’s nothing new in that basic truth.

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    • Jimmy Jack says:

      NK expert Michael Malice seems to disagree that Chubs is insane. Idk what to think. I believe if he was really threatening China they would level him within minutes with no regrets so I tend not to believe that he is holding them hostage in any way.

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  22. MOA says:

    The tragedy is China will outlast PTrump.
    Who for a minute doesn’t believe the crony establishment administrative Statists will not be back in control in 8 years?
    PTrump is unique, enjoy it while we can, there is no way it can last.


    • TimeIsNow says:

      PDJT is a major hero, but it will not end with him. Trump is correct, this is a MOVEMENT, and it goes beyond even this remarkable man, and this movement will continue to gin force in Europe as well as the USA.

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    • thluckyone says:

      MOA, please consider all that’s been done during – not quite – six months. We have before us – hopefully – 15 more of these six-month periods of ASTONISHING change. Our beloved Lion is making plans and creating methods for generations to come. As I understand it, MANY from the upcoming generations are all-in for Trump’s way of doing things.

      You and I are in agreement that President Donald J. Trump is historically unique. I know I will not live to see the like of him again. Still, I think I see coming even MORE vast change in academia and in international relationships before he leaves the world stage.

      In academia – particularly in poly-sci, economics and diplomacy – I envision the “Trump Method” being taught as best practices for generations to come (not just here but in many places world-wide). If we are privileged to see our god-Emperor live a full number of years, he and his current cabinet members could be writing and teaching for another 15 years beyond his time in office.

      In international relationships, the “Trump Method” could easily influence (in a postive way) well-intended world leaders for the next fifty years or more. Learning the “methods” of President Donald J. Trump requires study but even I – with MUCH help from Sundance and the Treepers – am beginning to see some patterns emerge. And all of this is WAY over my head but I love what I perceive as through a glass darkly. I just can’t believe this is actually happening.

      You want a continuation of a “non-statist” world? Then PLEASE continue praying for our Beloved President and his team. PRAY that others will be inspired by his vision and by his purpose and by his approach. And pray that our Precious Lord will raise up local and world leaders that our world so desperately needs. Leaders who are so spiritually strong that their mission and purpose will be as clear and clean to them as fresh, cool water.

      I know I’m sounding very obvious here but pray for Sunlight. Pray for disinfection of the disease of corruption. Ask your friends to join you in prayer if you’re not already meeting with them regularly. I believe the Holy Spirit of the Only Living God will be DELIGHTED to guide our future, personally and nationally. I also believe God wants to KNOW that we want Him engaged with us.

      There are MANY ways and, as you already know, at the very LEAST we have – through prayer, through service and through activism – the privilege of joining with God in His work of reconciliation. I sincerely believe that is what we’re seeing right this very moment. I intend to spend at least the next eight years being an activist, being a servant and giving praise and thanksgiving to our Lord for His mercy in Christ Jesus and for His work of reconciliation in President Donald J. Trump. I wanna be caught trying to keep intact & to expand the vision and the world that our President is sharing with us. Let’s work on this together.

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      • fleporeblog says:

        MOA is absolutely wrong! Thluckyone you are absolutely right!

        Folks we are WINNING and it is really miraculous when you step back and realize it!

        Generation Z is the workforce that will embrace our Lion’s Apprenticeship program and carry Trumpism forward for the next 50+ years. It is truly a marriage made in HEAVEN!

        From the article linked above:

        You know all those teenagers with their face plastered in their iPhones, the ones skateboarding everywhere and whiling away their free time playing video games? Turns out they’re actually paying attention to politics — and they aren’t big fans of the only political party they’ve known up until now, the Democrats.

        A new national survey by My College Options and the Hispanic Heritage Foundation gathered info from a whopping 50,000 “Generation Z” high school students ages 14 to 18 to gauge their political attitudes on the 2016 election. In what will surely be a surprise to the older generations yelling at Gen Z to get off our lawns, the survey found that a majority identify as Republican.

        While all these kids will be able to vote in the 2020 election, let’s take first-time voters alone to start. The survey found that 46 percent of the 18-year-olds surveyed voted for Trump; just 31 percent went for Hillary Clinton. Sure, 6 percent said they “would choose not to vote in this election,” but just 11 percent went third party.

        THIS IS AMERICANA at its best! Our Lion preparing the way for the future! I got so emotional knowing that the future is bright and AMERICANS will fulfill those 6 million plus jobs because of the Apprenticeship Program! Their kids will be told about the Lion that saved America. They will be brought up in homes that parents are financially able to make it and prosper.

        Here is an image that shows the love between our Lion and his cub (Generation Z)

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        • Jimmy Jack says:

          Gen Z is my hope for the future. I haven’t felt this positive about the future of America on a macro level since studying them more.

          Liked by 4 people

        • piper567 says:

          I visit The_Donald almost daily for the very reason it does my heart good to see all of these young folks who are not only wildly enthusiastic ab TRUMP, but embrace American values.
          Their enthusiasm is just political. They abhor hypocrisy, cannot stand the Rinos,
          support one another when there are problems in their lives, and are huge fans of our military; they mock snowflakes, all liberals, are very tech savvy, and are not afraid of hard work. Many are also huge gunbuffs.
          Very encouraging.So, yes, I have a good feeling ab the future. These youngsters are not likely to change their beliefs and attitudes.

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        • Phil aka Felipe says:

          thluckyone and fleporeblog, I love your posts.

          I want to dovetail with this thought about Trump’s speech in Poland.

          He said he’s doing this for our civilization, the Judeo-Christian western values, heritage, and traditions which have led us from darkness to light.

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      • MOA says:

        Thluck….strength to your arm.
        I pray it is so.
        I know it is not.

        The education system from grade school to college is captured by the left. The Long March through the Institutions by the international socialists has been complete for decades. If you let any Teacher’s Union member “educate” your children you better correct the day’s indoctrination at the dinner table.
        There is no profile heir to Pres Donald. So far the best most successful 180 days in office since 1776.

        In the end we’ll always be just a rag tag bunch of Conservative misfits.
        On the bright side, that’s my preferred fighting position.

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    • Jimmy Jack says:

      I don’t believe it.

      The Vulgarian takeover is in full swing and gathering steam. I believe there is a permanent change in the political landscape at this point.

      Honestly, I am hearing everyday normal middle class Americans saying they are willing to separate as a country or take up arms – literally. And they’re saying this when things are relatively peaceful. Idk how to explain it but something has definitely changed.

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      • Maquis says:

        The Left has over-played their hand, they’ve gone rabid and everyone can see it. All I had to do to love my President was hear my Commander in Chief speak, Ronaldus Magnus. His soul was right there in his voice, the sincerity, the wisdom, the rationality, and yes, the love, the absence of vitriol and hate.

        He was a Good Man. He won me over. I knew the Left in my former home in Oregon was dead wrong about him, and that something was really off about those people.

        I was angry, a year or two after, that prior to the election, which I was too young to vote in, everyone had me thinking ill of RR, not hate, but not yet to the point of disbelief in his detractors; they all lied to me. I was not happy with them. Still not.

        I had yet some learning to do… Once I became full-time Cold War Cannon Fodder I had to break the code on Communism. Read “The Naked Communist” by Cleon Skousen; I was stunned; “That’s Satan’s Plan!” And then, oh crap, the Democrats are down with the Adversary’s plan, it’s just better hidden, but not well enough.

        Read William Buckley and other great Conservatives in the Opinion section of my paper. Buckley expanded my exposition skills dramatically, my head hurt in the early days. Stayed with my Scripture reading too, and it all just jelled, I understood where the line, the divide between Left and Right was, and it’s significance.

        The Right recognizes, and accounts for Human Nature. That laws can have unintended effects. That it is needful to not commit one’s government to the Sisyphean task of pursing the obtuse lie of Human Perfectability. At least, Humans with endless laws and warped dogma have never perfected a person. Ever. Such attempts are most likely to inspire a deliberate effort to resist and go the other way. Way away. Especially when their demands never cease, they create new outrages, new obligatory two-hours-hate.

        The Moralizing Gadflys weren’t the “intolerent Right” depicted by pop culture. I decided I hated pop culture at fourteen. I think I was triggered bt “E.T.”, which I never saw, refused to see, and when Neil Diamond came on the radio prostituting his voice for a score so ridiculously maudlin I felt nauseous and disgusted.

        It was all so over the top manipulative, demanding, and expecting, a specific sappily emotional response in such a cheesy pathetic weak-azz way that, that people were falling for! What morons! Are they sheep? Why yes, yes they were.

        Anyways, it was the Socialist Left that created PC! (oh how I hated that) PC was merely a tool of control, and, ultimately, of debasement. They lied about their opponents, brazenly. Only a fool would believe them, unless they also were liars, at which point they knew it was a lie therefore it wasn’t belief, just; Alinskyism, Liberalusm, Socialism, EVIL.

        Generation Z is pretty smart. They can see the desperation and manipulation inherent in all the ways the Left tries to warp them. No one likes being lied to, as I know I didn’t. No one likes being taken for an idiot, talked down to, to be presumed to be easily manipulated, followed by frantic angry manipulation (“Why aren’t they yielding to us?”) for having the temerity to ignore them.

        Also, our Man PDJT is one brilliant talented guy. He knows his audience. Even the young folk. He knows they don’t wear pink hats. He knows the sheep are out-numbered and irrelevant, staying the annoying presence they are by virtue only of their incessant bleating. Smart people love him. So do smart kids. Wish I had a coupl….um, never mind.

        They see for themselves a genial straight-shooter that doesn’t pander to them or quaver in fear of tbe Left. Mitt Romney lost the election the very moment when Candy {{{shudder}}} Crowley pulled her stunt and Mitt started to put the pieces together then folded right in front of Obama, too afraid to speak truth, or demonstrate the intestinal fortitude to challenge the illegal immoral act and tbe lie within.

        He was a coward. Obama played tough guy there for less than ten seconds, and it knocked Mittens out cold. Kids see that. They sense fear, cowardice, condescension, contempt; they know HRC was as crooked as the day is long. They know the GOP is spineless.

        Reagan also cemented for me the reality of the natural consequences of Conservative governance. It was undeniable. It will be the same here. They are going to be blessed with tbe apprenticeship programs we should have had long ago. Better schooling opportunities without crippling debt. An economy that will let the young folks write their own ticket, find opportunities that kids haven’t seen in generations, if ever, actually. The tone has been set for this century, growth, security, prosperity, comfort with one’s own government.

        They know Obama sucked. They know he and his ilk are liars and destructive. They had watched the generations before them wilt on tbe vine, waiting for Mr Goodtime to pull his head out and fix it, and never happenning.

        These kids saw a generation or two parked right in front of them, going nowhere. Their anxiety must have been pretty high, envisioning the Obama economy waiting for them, the Muslim Superiority Machine on the campi, tbe racial discord, segregated dorms? White Privilege? Supposed to hate cops and be down wit dat rap crap? College debt forever, no other courses of independence evident than the now worthless AA or BA?

        Obama pretended to be a savior, remember all the pseudo-religious Obama as Christ on a Unicorn art in 2008? Yet he is clearly nothing more than a lower caste demon. Trump, now, he will never try to position himself upon a metaphorical cross, but he most assuredly did just save this upcoming generation from the misery that only Jimmy Carter, both I & II, could appreciate.

        These kids see what we see: Hope. Fun, too.


  23. Donna in Oregon says:

    The Wall Street casino is not an economic indicator for the forgotten man and woman. After the last crash and burn most of middle America avoided the stock market. If I were in the stock market I would roll over my 401K into an IRA in a Credit Union or Community bank after President Trump’s MAGAnomics is passed. I think the stock market is over-priced. This is the usual preamble to the huge sucking sound Wall Street makes. Fake excuses, MSM pondering. There is another scam afoot.

    Jamie Dimon griping for some reason seems like a warning. He just had record profits, and he was cursing. He didn’t curse after $40 billion in fines for screwing up. Now this? JP Morgan Chase must be in over their heads with China. I know Chase hired a bunch of Chinese politicians kids to get them involved in Credit derivatives. Maybe China’s fake economy is freaking Dimon out.

    As long as the Fed stays low and the tax, healthcare and infrastructure don’t pass the Globalists seem content. Except for Jamie Dimon. Why is that?

    I never trust big banks, they are always up to no good. Libor, derivatives, the London Whale…..what’s next? Dead Panda?

    Liked by 4 people

    • Joe Walker says:

      Excellent points Donna, I am worried about the stock market as well. Not for nothing, the GNP in the 70’s was above 5% longer the the GDP of the 90’s yet the stock market went nowhere in the 70’s but boomed in the 90’s. Stocks may not reflect the economy, Trump’s economy may boom and stocks go down.

      You are right about Dimon, I don’t remember cursing when JPM Chase was being bailed out back 2008 and interest rates kept at zero for almost a decade so they could recapitalize while we got zero in our savings.

      The Trump tweets on the stock market are interesting also, if I had to bet I would think Yellen is anti Trump, she has raised rates under the six month of Trump, but did not move rates up for the eight years of Obama.

      Also China is not a market economy, they will not politely ask their citizens to bring back money. Many of the mortgages and all cash purchase of houses by Chinese citizens in the US are drawn off of Chinese banks, the Chinese government owns those houses.

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      • WSB says:

        As SD has pointed out, rate oncreases will have less impact as our manufacturing and Main Street create a stronger income average.

        Additionally, the stock market small caps may explode as small companies find success and expand and take on public investors. I do not think we know what territory we are in yet.

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        • WSB says:

          Grrrrrr. Increases…..


        • Donna in Oregon says:

          MAGAnomics will have a more diversified economy. Sick of hearing about services and consumer spending. We will make things again… opposed to Facebook and Google. Digital versions of a library and family albums don’t compare to trips to the moon, traveling at the speed of sound. We still need to get to the speed of light and to Mars. Repair our country? Yes, please. In some states the sewer systems are over 100 years old.

          Our strength has always been innovation and pushing the envelope, making things. Our people are dynamic and revolutionary, not just nerds with joy sticks. Games are a pastime. Fun but not a necessity. We don’t even know what we can come up with next.

          This is exciting. We are going to make stuff again. NASA for years put their inventions up for the world to take. I say we keep those inventions for the USA and build them ourselves. Create some excitement in our country. Get our national pride back!

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  24. MVW says:

    I am always amazed when people think they can know anything. There is no such thing as a big ship in the ocean. The real advantage with free markets is flexibility when big changes occur. The more ‘smart’ people with ‘smart’ understanding there is ‘running’ things from a centralized economy, the greater the chance of being completely wrong and inflexible (stuck).

    Avoid debt in uncertainty. Minimize expenditures ahead of time. Don’t get sucked into believing smart people driving big cars know squat. Granddad would say, ‘Never trust a banker. They screw you when you are most vulnerable.’

    Trump being friends with all the leaders has to do with taking the lumps out. There is a massive inventory of lumps to be taken out as Trump dishes out the medicine.

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    • Phil aka Felipe says:

      That massive inventory of lumps to be taken out as Trump dishes out the medicine could make for a rough ride.

      I remember Don Trump Jr., saying ““We didn’t learn from MBAs. We learned from people who had doctorates in common sense … It’s why we’re the only children of billionaires as comfortable in a D10 Caterpillar as we are in our own cars.”

      I have a vision of POTUS Trump taking out the lumps with a D10 Caterpillar at highway speed!

      Trump said, “We don’t have time to be politically correct”.

      This is as Sundance said, “This truly is the greatest of times to be alive and engaged. All, because, Trump stuff.”

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  25. jeans2nd says:

    13 Jul 2017
    “Hong Kong and mainland China are the most vulnerable economies at risk of a financial crisis over the next three years…according to an investment bank report.”

    “A slew of “early warning indicators” signal a crisis within the next 12 quarters, it said”

    “The country’s total debt rose from 157 per cent of GDP in 2008 to 260 per cent last year and is still rising. Moody’s downgraded China’s sovereign debt rating in May for the first time in almost 30 years.”

    ““Whether China is willing to (let) markets play a more decisive role, remains to be seen.”

    “Remains to be seen” – lolol. Guess we now know, yes? No thinking required.

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    • Jimmy Jack says:

      The Ghost cities of China and throughout Africa should be enough to make anyone wary of what is going on with the Chinese economy, especially when coupled with their purchase of US real estate at a frenzied pace, particularly the most expensive properties in our most expensive cities.

      As a corollary, Americans would be wise to temper their real estate investments to this reality. Foreign purchases have created a bubble in this market. Couple that with the people who’ve bought US real estate only to rent it out on AirBnB as investment property and we could be looking at a second major real estate crash.

      If you have a business that deals with factories out of China, as ours does, and had the opportunity to see China on the ground level the facade of Chinese dominance becomes readily visible. I am not saying this as a discredit to the Chinese but that is what it looks like to me.

      On the other hand we are fools not to recognize Chinese ruthlessness or their culturally different value for human life to ours. We ignore that at our peril from a long term perspective.

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      • jeans2nd says:

        One addition – real estate’s value in China is near/at its lowest level. China is said to be nearing a criisi similar to our in 2008. buckle up.


  26. trapper says:

    This reminds me of a story.

    There was a retailer that had a vicious reputation. It would enter into supply agreements to purchase all the product a manufacturer could produce. The owner of the factory would borrow to expand, add second and third shifts, and thought he was in pig heaven. Until the retailer made him the offer he couldn’t refuse: the retailer was going to cut him off, leaving him with three shifts of payroll and nowhere to sell his product, or he could sell out to the retailer at the retailer’s price and terms. The retailer owned him. The retailer did this over and over again. They all sold.

    Where is China going to sell its rubber dog shit and $3 sneakers if not here? Answer, in case Xi hasn’t figured it out yet: America OWNS China, not the other way around. It’s mate, pal.

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  27. A2 says:

    This ‘expert opinion’ was just published in the Global CPC mouthpiece Times written by a research fellow with the Chinese Academy of International Trade and Economic Cooperation. It compliments this Sundance post. I shall only post a snippet but it well worth a read.

    “China must be wary of risks in overseas investment”

    “At the macro level, potential cross-border financial risk mainly comes from China’s massive overseas investment. Overly optimistic expectations held by destination countries, domestic investors and lenders, unrealistic and aggressive investment plans as well as other factors all contribute to the accumulation of potential risk. At a certain point, a minor disruption may completely reverse market participants’ expectations, breaking the economic equilibrium in the destination countries. This may lead to consequences like currency devaluation, capital flight and a collapse in asset prices, thus triggering a chain reaction that spreads the risk to other countries.”

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    • jmclever says:

      Globalist double talk is also known as gaslighting. It is very tricky speech deliberately constructed to keep its intended target confused and off balance. It is the choice of nearly all abusers. Sundance has already made the connection with abusive personality types (narcissism, borderline personality disorder, sociopaths). This guy talks about their communication style.


  28. A2 says:

    As to Sundance’s humourous comment about Mr Wilbur as “Toto” pulling back the curtain on the Panda wizard exposing the Chinese command and control economy, on Wednesday the Beijing Municipal Housing Authority has already done so for the first time. No market reforms for you China.

    “In an annual white paper released on Wednesday, Beijing Municipal Commission for Housing and Urban-rural Development vowed to block issuance of presale permits to developers if they apply to sell at a price “conspicuously higher than previous ones and surrounding projects’ price”, putting off any room for developers to raise prices.”

    Beijing’s municipal government has imposed the command economy-style practise throughout this year, but this is the first time the government officially acknowledged the policy, sending a clear signal to the market.

    北京住房和城乡建设发展白皮书(2017) The Beijing White White Paper

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  29. Ed. says:

    Don’t forget that China has an ace of Spades up their sleeve, and they have threatened to play it when Bush said he would not be attending the Beijing Olympics. He quickly capitulated for fear of that card. They could easily trump, Trump by simply giving away the 1.1 Trillion dollars we owe them to the American public. The whole fiat Ponzi scheme that is the Federal Reserve Note would implode, and the Renminbi would be king.


    • A2 says:

      Despite China trying the RNB is not fully convertible.The RMB has a long and rocky road before that happens. Look at Chinese local government debt for starters.

      I see this kind of analysis on Zerohedge. LOL.


  30. MOA says:

    “They could easily trump, Trump by simply giving away the 1.1 Trillion dollars we owe them to the American public.”

    Well no. Chinese holdings of US Treasuries would have to be converted to US$ cash and redeposited at a minimum. Easily stopped by regulation. Simple stop currency trading with China or its surrogates
    Any all out currency war will see the US debt to China compartmentalised as a new ‘China Debt Dollar’ conversion for all their Treasuries. The US govt then does what it likes with that instrument.
    Radical Chinese moves to attack the US$ will be met will financially violent countermeasures.

    China has no where to go with this, the smart guys there know that.

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    • Ed. says:

      A US Treasury Bond is a US Treasury Bond, a regularly traded instrument on the open market, anybody can trade them and cash them in. China only holds 1.1 Billion of the 20 Billion out there. Flood the market with free bonds, and all heck will break loose. Will the US refuse to cash in a $100,000 bond tendered by Planned Parenthood if they know they got it from China? Never happen. And as for the RNB tied to the dollar that is also correct however if we start a trade war and they collapse the dollar it will be like rats on a sinking ship searching for anything that floats. China’s only problem will be there aren’t enough RNB to go around. A problem they have been working on with the Brics partnership.


      • Ed. says:

        My Bad 1.1 Trillion, and 20 Trillion not Billions.


        • Tom says:

          China can’t do diddly. They are so overleveraged in their country that the smallest whiff of a trade war and lower trade income has them terrified. Why do you think they have announced a new “stability” council ? $1T in USD doesn’t go far when your state enterprises are nothing but debt machines with dodgy, multiple times rehypothecated collateral nominally underpinning it all. They have 1 billion people to keep happy and fed, and they are a net food importer. China is a total loser in a trade war.


      • MOA says:

        ‘Will the US refuse to cash in a $100,000 bond tendered by Planned Parenthood if they know they got it from China?’

        No problem. Chinese holdings of Treasuries are easily isolated, when the market knows that, Planned Parenthood complies with a no buy policy.

        The boys that do have a problem are in the Yuan Dollar swap area. Derivatives as always are the house of cards in any currency war.


    • redlegleader68 says:

      ONE MORE TIME: “When you owe the bank $1 Trillion, you OWN the bank!”

      Liked by 1 person

      • redlegleader68 says:

        PS: I’m “fairly sure” Wolverine Mnuchin well knows how to handle this. 😉


      • Tom says:

        I don’t think so. The Fed “bought” with funny money $4T in so-called “assets” from 2008 to 2016 and are just now beginning to attempt to unwind it. Could the Fed absorb another $1T ? You bet.

        Altho I despise the Fed and what it’s done to the US dollar, as long as we have the Fed we can use it strategically.

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  31. A2 says:

    On the 19th, Pres Trump’s wolverines will meet with their Chinese counterparts. That should be an epic read here.

    Liked by 2 people

    • MOA says:

      Billionaires working for the USA for nothing.
      Not a community organiser lawyer to be seen.
      Note the difference in gravitas, confidence, skill and personal bearing we get from that over the previous low rent operation…..

      Liked by 3 people

      • Phil aka Felipe says:

        “Billionaires working for the USA for nothing.
        Not a community organiser lawyer to be seen.
        Note the difference in gravitas, confidence, skill and personal bearing we get from that over the previous low rent operation…..”

        Wonder how many of those in the Chinese Gov’t have experience in building and running multi-billion $ enterprises. Any? None?

        Mismatch is obvious.


  32. MOA says:

    Goodness, just do a comparison of Kerry and TRex and try not to laugh at the handwringing beta male socialist.

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  33. jeans2nd says:

    Somewhat related –

    Taiwan’s President Vows to Help China Achieve Democracy

    “If the Chinese Dream is democracy, then Taiwan will provide any assistance necessary to achieve this objective.”

    That last Nork ICBM recently launched? Chinese origin.

    Think China has a bright future? roflmbo

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  34. jeans2nd says:

    11 May 2017
    Experts –
    Asean under pressure due to uncertain US policy, China’s ambitions: researchers
    Honolulu – “Asean will be under tremendous pressure as the United States under Donald Trump’s administration tries to be more engaged without a clear strategy while China competes for the grouping’s favour, experts at the Hawaii-based East-West Center said.”

    “While it was still hard to see what the Trump administration wanted to do regarding the relationship with Asean…”
    Well, alrighty then.

    The National is a Thailand-based newspaper.
    Uncertain. Unpredictable. Unruly. Incorrigible. Deplorable.


    • Maquis says:

      If ASEAN wants the US to continue to maintan freedom of navigation for all through the World’s busiest shipping lanes whilst Chinese Military Adventurism takes the inevitable and unfortunate bad turn that weak previous Administration(s) fostered, they might want to avoid biting our hand. Putzes.

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  35. jmclever says:

    China’s economy is also sustainable only for as long as they can steal intellectual property from the US. That is also coming to an end.

    Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom (2 Corinthians 3:17) Freedom begets creativity and innovation. This is exactly why a Christian America became the innovators of the world and why all communist countries (that by definition refuse Jesus) have never been.

    The greatness of America was a byproduct of the fact that we had put God first. With God pushed to the side by our leaders and a church weakened by the Johnson amendment and removal of public prayer by the Supreme Court (starting with schools) America lost what our founders knew almost instinctively. Now, the only way to MAGA is to once again become a nation that puts Jesus first.

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    • P7rancher says:



      • Maquis says:

        Indeed. The Spirit, when strong and close, only a brief silent prayer required to effectively make one’s appeals, creativity and inspiration flow like water. Takes an effort. Such that is all too uncommon these days.

        Does anyone think that, maybe, Generation Z will prove to be a reinvigoration of faith in America? I believe PDJT is already affecting people, this is so clearly Providence at work, and so many of us are praying for him…recommitting to ones faith and striving to be close to God can only make our prayers more effective. Perhaps, that may be the key to our genuine effectiveness in this Spiritual tug of war.

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  36. Trent Telenko says:

    The following is what the Chinese thought of America in 2010. This is from Talking Points Memo —

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    PRC Daily Views: US Military Strategy As Per DoD Quadrennial Defense Review
    Zhongguo Qingnian Bao
    Online in Chinese – 12 Feb 2010

    “US Arrogance Replaced by Strategic Contraction: Trends of US
    Military Strategy As Drawn From the ‘Quadrennial Defense Review

    by Li Shuisheng, Academy of Military Science

    After the United States was bogged down in the Afghanistan War for
    more than eight years and in the Iraq War for more than seven years,
    in early February, the Obama administration published its first
    “Quadrennial Defense Review” (QDR). This was a report submitted to US
    Congress by the US Department of Defense every four years as required
    by law, and was also a framework document for the future building of
    the US military.

    Against the background of being deeply mired in “one crisis and
    two wars”, this year’s report somewhat restrained the usual “arrogant
    style” appearing in the previous QDR reports, epitomized the more
    pragmatic defense policy pursued by the Obama administration,
    manifested the trend of the United States’ strategic contraction to a
    certain extent. The report also revealed some noteworthy new changes
    in the US military building.

    Prevail in the Current Wars, Move Out of the Strategic Adversity

    The report, for the first time, mentioned that winning the
    currently ongoing wars was a priority task for the US military, and
    also the top priority in the consideration of the US Department of
    Defense on the defense budget, the defense policy, and military
    modernization. To stress the importance of winning the current wars,
    the report took this as the primary objective of the US defense
    strategy. While the counterterrorist wars lasted over a long time in
    an undecided condition, the US military actually faced the question:
    Which should be the priority, winning the current wars or coping with
    future threats?

    In the period of Rumsfeld, the US military stressed that both
    sides were priorities, but the efforts for coping with future threats
    was put to a more important position, and stress was actually laid on
    speeding up the military transformation through the counterterrorist
    wars. However, with the continuing worsening the battlefield situation
    in Iraq and Afghanistan, the US military changed this line of
    thinking, and laid greater stress on winning the current wars and
    coping with the instant threats. In April 2009, US Secretary of
    Defense Robert Gates pointed out in a speech at the US Naval War
    College that the primary task of the Department of Defense was to
    prevail in ongoing wars rather than just continuously making war

    The reasons for the change of the US military’s thinking lay in
    following factors. First, as the current wars dragged on over a long
    time without a decisive outcome, this would further chip away at the
    United States’ strength, aggravate its strategic adversity, and
    increasingly narrow the room for maneuvers on other issues.

    Second, winning the current wars was directly related to the US
    strategic interests. The US military held that failures in Iraq or
    Afghanistan would cause a disastrous impact on the United States’
    reputation and credibility. The United States cannot just concentrate
    on making preparations for conventional or strategic conflicts in the
    future and neglect the necessity of winning the ongoing battles for
    the time being.

    Third, winning the current wars was also a matter concerning the
    US military’s capability of coping with conventional threats in the
    future. The US military held that in a fairly long period to come, the
    pattern of war that they might be facing would be a kind of composite
    irregular warfare, the “age of lasting conflicts” with non-state,
    irregular, and lethal adversaries would not come to an end in the near
    future, and the current wars were actually the “next war”.

    Play Down Challenges From Large Powers, Give Prominence to Regional Threats

    In both the 2006 “Quadrennial Defense Review” and the 2008
    “National Defense Strategy”, the United States laid great stress on
    the challenges posed by new rising big powers to the United States.
    However, the latest “Quadrennial Defense Review” basically did not
    mention this issue, and turned to give prominence to regional threats.

    The report took “deterring and defeating aggression in anti-access
    environments” as one of the six core capabilities of the US military.
    When commenting on the report, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of
    Staff pointed out the two strategic tasks for the US military: One was
    to thoroughly defeat and destroy the terrorist organization of
    Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan. The other was to prevent and
    deter conflicts in regions of great strategic significance, especially
    conflicts with Iran and the DPRK.

    The “anti-access capability” refers to the ability to blunt or
    deny the US military’s power projection. The report held that as the
    regional opponents developed and deployed advanced intermediate-range
    and cruise missiles, anti-ship cruise missiles, stealth submarines,
    advanced mines, comprehensive air defense systems, and anti-satellite
    capability, all this had posed greater and greater threats against the
    US military’s power projection and forward bases. To “deter and defeat
    aggression in anti-access environments”, the report came up with
    following measures for the US military: develop a “joint air-sea
    battle concept”; expand future long-range strike capabilities; exploit
    advantages in subsurface operations. At the same time, the “Ballistic
    Missile Defense System Review” that the US military recently published
    also emphasized the necessity of taking the development of the US
    missile defense system for coping with regional missile threats as a
    top priority.

    Another point that gave expression to the US military’s giving
    prominence to regional threats was that the report, for the first
    time, changed its assessment of China’s status from a “potential
    global rival” to a country ranking side by side with the DPRK and Iran
    that might carry out “regional aggression”, or from a more or less
    ambiguous position to an explicitly-determined status. This showed
    that the United States would take its response to the so-called
    “aggression” by China in the theater of the Taiwan Strait as a major
    task for the US military. In addition, for the first time, the US
    military officially came up with the notion of “joint air-sea battle”
    and took it as one of the measures for dealing with regional
    adversaries. This was also a noteworthy point.

    Respond to Composite Threats, Building General-purpose Forces

    While narrating the operation environments that the US forces were
    facing, the QDR report took on the notion of ” composite threats” in
    the theory of “composite warfare”. The report held that with the
    development of globalization and the influence of technological
    proliferation, non-state actors would use advanced military
    technologies and conventional military means, and it would also be
    possible that state actors use nonconventional technologies and means
    to challenge the US military. The future wars would be more
    complicated; war actors would become more diverse; and the boundary of
    traditional patterns of war would become more blurred. In 2009, Gates
    pointed out in an article: “While determining various types of
    threats, people tend to draw a divide between “high-end” and
    “low-end”, between conventional and nonconventional, between armored
    divisions and guerillas carrying AK-47. In fact, as political
    scientist Colin Gray noted, the boundary of various war patterns is
    getting increasingly blurred, and it is hard to clearly categorize
    wars any more.”

    Taking into account the demands of a complex and dynamic security
    environment, the report required that the US military be more agile
    and more adaptable in responding to challenges across the board, and
    carry out more extensive battle and non-battle actions from homeland
    defense and support for the civil authorities to deterrence,
    anti-terrorist and anti-insurgent wars and then to possible wars in
    the future.

    The report outlined the general parameters of the wartime force
    structure, which fully reflected the US military’s notion of
    responding to composite threats and building general-purpose forces.
    The report expanded the notion of “simultaneously winning two regional
    wars”, made the force structure more complex and more gigantic. In
    fact, the 2006 “Quadrennial Defense Review” already made a change to
    the “two wars” notion. On the premise of not giving up the goal of
    winning two regional wars, the US military then took homeland defense,
    counterterrorism, nonconventional (asymmetric) operations as the
    standards for force building. The latest “Quadrennial Defense Review”
    basically maintained this line of thinking.

    Attach Importance to Cyber Security, Strengthen Cyber Warfare Forces

    The report took effective operations in cyberspace as one of the
    core capabilities of the US military, and took the protection of the
    security of the Department of Defense networks as one of the major
    operation risks in the near term. The report said: The US Department
    of Defense currently operates more than 15,000 different computer
    networks across more than 4,000 military installations around the
    world. On any given day, there are as many as 7 million Department of
    Defense computers and telecommunications tools are in use. The report
    came up with following measures for strengthening cyber security and
    strengthening the capability of operations in cyberspace: Apply
    comprehensive means to integrating the cyberspace activities in the
    Department of Defense as a whole; strengthen people’s knowledge about
    and awareness of cyberspace; strengthening cooperation with other
    government departments.

    In fact, the US military has long realized the importance of
    networks in military affairs, and has taken some relevant measures. In
    2007, the US Air Force came up with the “National Military Strategy
    for Cyberspace Operations”, which, for the first time, defined
    cyberspace as a domain where military actions could be taken. In 2002,
    the United States established the world’s first cyberspace hacker
    force — the Joint Task Force-Global Network Operations. In May 2009,
    Obama released a cyberspace security review, stressing that threats
    from cyberspace had become one of the most serious economic and
    military threats to the United States. In June 2009, the “Joint Task
    Force-Global Network Operations” (responsible for cyberspace attacks)
    and the “Joint Functional Component Command – Network Warfare”
    (responsible for network defense) under the US Strategic Command were
    merged into a new “US Cyber Command”, whose tasks were to coordinate
    the defense of computer networks and direct the United States’
    cyberspace attacks. The new command began its operation as of October
    2009, and will reach full operating capability by October 2010.

    Reduce the Impact of the Wars, Give Consideration to the Stability
    of the Troops

    The report, for the first time, take the work of stabilizing the
    force morale and strengthening force building as one of the US defense
    strategic objectives. This showed that the negative impact of the wars
    in the past eight years on the US military force building had become

    So far, the number of deaths suffered by the US military in the
    Afghanistan exceeded 900, and 4,375 military personnel were killed in
    the Iraq War, plus 31,648 people wounded. In 2010, the United States
    will dispatch another 30,000 troops to Afghanistan. Although Obama
    announced that most combat troops would be withdrawn from Iraq by
    August 2010, and force withdrawal from Afghanistan would begin in July
    2011, the development of the situation would still make such force
    withdrawal plans uncertain.

    The wars that dragged on over a long time not only pushed the
    United States into an adverse condition, but also caused great harm
    and pressure to the American military personnel and their families. On
    5 November 2009, Major Hasan, an Army psychiatrist who were about to
    be deployed for overseas duty, opened fire at Fort Hood, a US Army
    base in Texas, killing 13 people and injuring 30 people. This was an
    obvious instance reflecting the serious psychological problems among
    the American military personnel. The report admitted that care for the
    military personnel was insufficient in the past, and the input of
    resources was not adequate. So in the future, policies, budgets, and
    plans would be tilted more in favor of the benefits of the military
    personnel and their families. In fiscal year 2010, the expenses for
    military personnel accounted for 20 percent of the military budget,
    and increased from $124.9 billion in FY2009 to $136 billion, up by 8.9

    Strengthen the Capabilities of the Partners, Create Conditions for
    Force Withdrawals

    The report took the “strengthening of partner state’s security
    capability” as one of the six core capabilities of the US military,
    and held that developing the capability of the partner states was one
    of the major risks in the military operations in the near term, and
    was also the key to whether the United States could prevail in today’s
    wars. The report came up with following measures for elevating this
    capability: Strengthen and institutionalize the capabilities of the
    general-purpose forces for helping the security forces of the partner
    states; enhance the linguistic, regional, and cultural ability of the
    forces, with $47 million being allocated by the Department of Defense
    for this purpose; strengthen and expand capabilities for training
    partner aviation forces; strengthen capabilities for training regional
    and international security organizations.

    While Nixon took office in January 1969, the Vietnam War had been
    fought for eight years. Nixon came up with a plan of “localizing” the
    Vietnam War, staging a force surge, and then withdrawing the US
    forces. Forty years later, in January 2009, the Afghanistan War had
    dragged on for seven years and the Iraq War had lasted nearly six
    years, when the Obama administration took office. At present, the
    United States is facing an international environment similar to that
    in the Nixon period at least in three points: Multiple power centers
    appeared in the world; the United States was deeply mired in two wars;
    the US economic status continued to decline amid the crisis.

    For this reason, in the whole report, the term “partner” appeared
    180 times; “partnership” 38 times; and “alliance” 148 times. Such
    words averagely appeared nearly four times every page. The fact that
    the US military attached such great importance to the strength of the
    partner states indicated that the Obama administration seemed to have
    an idea about “localizing” the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and its
    policy of force surge and force withdrawal looked the same as that of
    the Nixon administration.

    — Li Shuisheng, Academy of Military Science

    ==copy ends==


    • Maquis says:

      Huh? Major Hassan, a never deployed Army Psychiatrist’s murder of 14 and injuring 30(+?) was an obvious sign of severe psychological problems due to stress of the long-drawn high-tempo wars…

      WTF?! Are you freaking kidding me? What, Hassan had PTSD? PRE-TRAUMATIC-STRESS-DISORDER? From having never deployed? From threatening his superior officers with a PowerPoint presentation declaring his “religious” obligation to kill them and Frag his peers? Due to spineless jellyfish coward superior officers that glossed over their pet Muslim’s silly ideas that he couldn’t possibly reallllly mean, despite ongoing issues due to his complete and utter UNFITNESS TO BE AN OFFICER NOR EVEN A LOWLY PRIVATE DUE TO HIS CAREER LONG TELEGRAPHING OF HIS JIHADI BENT AND INTENTIONS!!!!!!

      Get that, Folks? It was the Army’s fault, the war’s fault, the victims’ fault too I imagine that they imagined, just like they only imagined he murdered while screaming Allahu Akbar!!!!


      This is your man, you Leftist idiots and white-guilt-appeasing dolts forced upon the once greatest nation in the World. The best, the absolute pinnacle of human liberty enhancing self-governance ever achieved reduced to a third-world laughing-stock en route to irrelevancy by her worst enemies stealing into the halls of power, cheered on by absolute fools and arrogant tyrants in waiting.

      That, traitors, is over. America is Woke.

      RANT OUT



  37. Donna in Oregon says:

    Chinese fortune cookies….you’ve been trumped 🙂


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