Dems Make Strategic Healthcare Plan for 2018 – Sanders Will Lead on “Single-Provider” Proposal…

Well, don’t say we didn’t predict this reality.  The Democrats are smartly not waiting for any recovery efforts by Republicans; and immediately following the failure of President Trump’s healthcare repeal and replacement approach, Senator Bernie Sanders begins putting their ‘single provider’ alternative together.

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The strategy is, unfortunately, brilliant.  When Obamacare further collapses, and all Americans are being further crushed by the skyrocketing costs, at exactly the moment when the American electorate are at their most frustrated and everyone is in crisis mode – whammo, here’s the solution.

All of the previous opposition to single-provider has been kicked out of the Democrat party.  [Blue Dogs Dispatched] The DNC will unify, as one single voting bloc without a single representative in divergence, behind the Sanders proposal.

As ObamaCare explodes, the factional infighting between the purists in Hillary’s Favorite Republican Caucus and various GOPe proposals will continue.  Directly into this void of leadership will flow the single-provider plan, just as the Democrats and the coordinated media messaging tell the American electorate the solution is right there:

“Medicare for all”.

The only thing the voter needs to do is get rid of the intransigent republicans and give them back the house in 2018 and maybe the White House in 2020.   The Democrat call will be for a deafening mandate. Every activist and social justice group will respond to the thunder-drums.

In the unseen background, the activist Labor Unions will go along with the Democrat plan.  So too will Tom Donohue and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce (GOPe).

AFSCME, SEIU, AFL-CIO will go along because employer removed health insurance premium costs leave more room for lucrative labor contracts.  Tom Donohue will go along because the cost of Healthcare will remain off the ledgers of multinational Wall Street corporations and global bankers.

The Health Care providers and networks of Big Health Care and Big Pharma will go along, because the Democrat plan will apply the same approach as the Industrial Military Complex to Healthcare.  Expansive crony-healthcare contracts provided at the public coffers, with unlimited taxpayer financing therein.  Everyone can get rich.

Promises of big multi-billion dollar government contracts will go to those within the industry who will sign up to help the DNC execute the 2018 election plan.  Billions will be spent with projections of hundreds of billions in later returns on investment.

This is the extremely predictable end result of the opposition put forth last week by Hillary’s Favorite Caucus HFC (aka House Freedom Caucus).

I hate democrats with the force of a bazillion super-nova’s, because their schemes are infinitely easier to pull off than oppose.  However, this ‘Ice-Cream-For-Dinner‘ was entirely predictable.  Thanks to the #NeverTrumpers, this was almost too easy.

Once the government is responsible for providing all the care,… well, a few decades from now, our kids will meet “The Minders”.

…”That was easy… Now, let me tell you about Muh Constitution”…

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997 Responses to Dems Make Strategic Healthcare Plan for 2018 – Sanders Will Lead on “Single-Provider” Proposal…

  1. Michael says:

    IMO PDJT ought go for broke and issue the TRUMP plan that starts with a blank slate and wraps up an all in one fix and then go directly to the people with the message to harangue your elected into supporting my proposal OR vote them the hell out next election. Either he wins and the country thrives or the country as I knew it is dead and gone. I see no long term viable alternatives.

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    • Howie says:

      Under budget and ahead of schedule?

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    • Will Janoschka says:

      Michael says March 27, 2017 at 10:57 am

      “IMO PDJT ought go for broke and issue the TRUMP plan that starts with a blank slate and wraps up an all in one fix and then go directly to the people with the message to harangue your elected into supporting my proposal OR vote them the hell out next election. Either he wins and the country thrives or the country as I knew it is dead and gone. I see no long term viable alternatives”

      I agree but not for a single pay-or; instead.a single provider for all “necessary medical service to only US citizens”. Not an iota for “enemy mercenary invaders”, called immigrants! The plan must be based on a workable version of the VA system. The government owns the facilities and pays a fixed salary to all permanent employes! PDJT could manage such at a profit, so could the new SS! Where oh where do we get 20 ‘more’ with the integrity and skill of PDJT?????

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      • Michael says:

        I agree no coverage of any sort for alien invaders. I would not (without great reluctance) support gvt ownership of anything beyond national defense. IMO the biggest problem is overbearing gvt interference in the market place beginning with wage controls during WW2. As long as purchasing coverage is a choice there are those who will make bad choices but our society refuses to allow those making bad choices suffer the consequences. I would like to support requiring some sort of catastrophic coverage but the devil is again in the details.
        The Little Red Hen is no longer taught as a cautionary tale.
        TANSTAAFL!

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        • Will Janoschka says:

          “I would not (without great reluctance) support gvt ownership of anything beyond national defense. IMO the biggest problem is overbearing gvt interference in the market place beginning with wage controls during WW2.”

          I can agree with that. But the idea is that the required medical help work for ‘fixed’ wages else costs will again skyrocket. Again only for “necessary medical service”, nothing elective, but this can include preventative medicine. This is certainly a ‘social function’ best funded and administered at the lowest governmental level, county, city, state! The military VA can participate in this helping choose the best provider with the lowest bid for those services on a regular (annual?) basis. Thousands of problems, but as you say TANSTAAFL!

          ” but our society refuses to allow those making bad choices suffer the consequences.”

          Change tort law to apply to the administrators that will make bad choices, rather than some doctor, nurse, only doing the instructions of the administrator. In order for the administrator to receive any salary, that administrator must itself post personal bond to cover its bad choices. 🙂

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      • mike says:

        This business about single payor can be pretty scary taken literally – no medical care outside the authoritarian system.

        It means they can and will kill you on several levels, after sovietizing medicine.

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  2. Pinkie says:

    This is the way the world ends
    Not with a bang but a whimper.

    So too will it be with Obamacare. It will not explode.

    The game was up when Ryan and the other pretenders did not have the cojones to tackle guaranteed issue/community rating for preexisting conditions. This has been the camels nose under the tent all along. No private insurance can cover that and the Dems know it. Insurers will ratchet up rates and leave certain markets. Other markets will remain viable at least for a time.

    A “public option” (which Obama lusted for but which was denied him) will be the first step, perhaps for “high risk pools” or for certain individual markets where competition among private insurers is weak or has evaporated.

    Perhaps it will start with an option to buy into Medicare at younger and younger ages.

    The employer based system will continue to coexist alongside the new public option, at least for a time.

    But however it starts, over time the addiction to the government crack pipe will crowd out private insurers and eventually the employer based system will fade away as well.
    It’s a long game and Dems have been playing it since the 1930s. As Sundance says — it’s diabolically brilliant.

    The land of the free will soon be a foggy memory.

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    • Howie says:

      They ain’t got us yet.

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      • mike says:

        I think what the military calls “unit disinteration” is likely to occur over this latest Treason and Subversion, if it is crammed down like ACA.

        A lot of the single payer supporters don’t realize to what extent SP is their own death sentence too. Many Single Payers opponents are mortally afraid of both its incompetent and murderous potential.

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        • buzzybee says:

          Right on, Mike. “A lot of single payer supporters don’t realize to what extent SP is their own death sentence too.” I agree wholeheartedly. The dumbing down of the sheeple over the past 20 plus years has done its work. The globalists must be drooling.

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      • mike says:

        Your concerns about Sundance’s privacy and anonymity are invasive. The cronies and traitors that we are discussing can be extremely dangerous, even if I share some of your concerns about Ryanocare vs alternative medicine. Privacy and anonymity are extremely important tools in dealing with authoritarianism.

        We all have our differences about specifics

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        • buzzybee says:

          Thanks, Mike. I tend to agree. Perhaps she’s forgotten that all of those in public office have to have security detail. Those of us who are opposed to global communism believe privacy and anonymity for the purpose of discretion/safety is necessary. Sundance has a following, and is making a difference, which makes him a danger to the powerful elitists. That makes the world more dangerous for him and writers like him. When Laura Ingraham mentioned CTH on her show, I knew headway was being made by Sundance. I’ve no doubt Laura and other conservative radio hosts like her also have bodyguards/security detail. It just goes with the territory. It’s either that or do it the way Sundance does.

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    • The land of the free is already a memory, but those who remember it must be over a hundred and four.

      Not with a whimper evidently, but with an endless charade of “government” kabuki theater “debates” and with an endless slave discussion about their choice of the least worst and latest form of tyranny they can “live with”.

      Incredible. The human condition is a wreck.

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      • Michael says:

        Only in my sixties but I (and my friends) used to blow stuff up in the back 40 just because I could. Who knew what you could learn from chemistry and physic books? LOL
        Just boys out havin fun! Now would get me shot on sight or a quick ride to jail and being a natural born Caucasian citizen no sanctuary city is going to protect me.

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    • Buzzybee says:

      So, all the rallies, elections, cries for real leadership, etc. is all icing on a cake still full of garbage? We have PDJT, but we lose the country anyway? What were the lefties crying about then when HillBill lost? Apparently they get their Single Player anyway. Sad, that. (and I do mean Single PLayer)

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      • buzzybee says:

        BTW – my above reply was intended to respond to the cynicism further up thread. Although I don’t fault anyone for the cynicism. My only point is this roller coaster ride of ‘whew!’ we now have PDJT so we won’t lose the country,…. or will we anyway? Time will tell. Perhaps we won’t lose it as quickly at least. But I do not have a crystal ball, and neither does anyone else. Truth has a way of coming out. So we will see.

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  3. Sentient says:

    Healthcare in five years: “Grandma’s knee was paining her, so we had to put her down. Oh well, she had a full life. She was 56.”

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  4. deh3k says:

    Sundance is making a good point here. It will be an easy sell as Obamacare continues going belly up.

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    • Pinkie says:

      It was the plan all along

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      • 7delta says:

        Exactly, Pinkie. It’s been a slow process…dang that pesky Constitution…but they’ve got that under control now. They’ve lived and breathed it out of existence. “They”, the U.S. Department of They, are in both parties, education, media, the courts, and career and appointed government officials.

        Kinda looks bad, but remember, “impossible is just the starting point.” They keep exposing themselves for all to see. No amount of illogical spin and insane ranting can make it logical or believable. Their ship is already sinking, so they’ll double down…again. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

        IMO, above all, pray. As it says in Psalm 92: 6-9, (paraphrased) The brutish and foolish man doesn’t understand that when they, the wicked, are allowed to flourish, it is so they can be destroyed forever. The Lord still reigns on high and His enemies shall perish and the workers of iniquity will be scattered.

        God’s got this, even when it looks like things aren’t going well. We just have to do our part. With God’s guidance and discernment, we each have to decide what our part looks like. I believe…I know…God will not allow the kind of deceit, corruption and evil that’s gone on behind our backs to win or escape. Their plans are the pathway to their destruction. No matter how bumpy it gets, He’s in control.

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  5. MIKE says:

    Should have made them vote on it. Now they remain hidden in the swamp, safe from view of their constituency, and the rest of us. And poised to bring single payer to fruition. Nuke the swamp.

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  6. Oldskool says:

    Interesting scenario SD lays out and probably has been the plan of the Uniparty all along. Their most recent plan was that Trump couldn’t get to 270 electoral votes either, but there were 63M of us that had a different idea. All we have to do is learn from the dems and get organized, mobilize and get loud. Hopefully that’s beginning, witness the recent pro president rallies and standing up to the anarchists. There’s more of us than them, shouldn’t be a problem going forward as we get better at that. Next the politicians. MAGA

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    • Deadbeat says:

      My question is how are you going to sell are pro-market driven plan to the American people and build a solid majority around it when the opposition can sell “Medicare for all”?

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      • Oldskool says:

        The only voice we’ll have is PTrump doing his rally magic and his radio announcements to hopefully lay out a case for easing interstate barriers that could make the insurance companies actually compete for your premium money by offering coverages relevant to your life and contrast that to having a healthcare system like the VA. You want to improve the quality of care, put some regulations on the payment schedules that insurance companies impose on providers. I was surprised at how many doctors in my area in NC don’t accept Medicare and I believe only 38% or so nationwide accept Medicaid, all because the payment rates are so low and it isn’t worth the liability.

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      • Jenny R. says:

        First, give it to them hot and heavy about how much more in taxes they will have to pay; second, let them know straight up just what kind of care they are in for; third, tell them the truth: we can’t afford it unless…we cut the H out of welfare.
        That should give them plenty to chew on — the problem will be how to get it out there.
        And the thing that would really work? Find some workable solution.
        It doesn’t have to be perfect; it won’t be perfect. Medicine, like education, is something that can’t be handled just by economics: there are moral and ethical concerns that have to be taken into consideration — the poor can’t pay (and the poor does not mean the bottom rung of society anymore — it’s over half), but you don’t leave them. Does this open the door for abuse? Yes it does. Do you leave them then because no system will be perfect? No, not unless you’re a damn barbarian (and we have been guilty of barbarism, then when we were informed of it, and it became public, everyone rushed to virtue signal…when they had been guilty themselves of such shattering inhumanity not so long before):
        http://www.newstatesman.com/society/2010/12/disabled-children-british

        I’m not really so much afraid for Grandma (which could and hopefully will mean me soon), I am afraid for small, sick children; babies who aren’t considered up to standard, and the disable — who are always the first to suffer. They are the true innocent (not Grandmas who have helped to make the world as it is) and the ones with truly no protection (Granny gets to vote so politicians may at least do a little something for Granny, the ones I’m talking about don’t have any leverage).

        No, we will have to make several very difficult choices; my hope is that the American people as a whole will choose wisely, thread the needle between the two camps of death, and do the right, if somewhat difficult, thing. In that way are we all saved, but if we get greedy materially, emotionally, spiritually then all bets are off…imhao.

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    • buzzybee says:

      I’m unsure that there are more of us than them (whoever ‘them’ is) because the country is divided. But I think we should continue the movement. There are more of us than there are global elitists in the USA, but there are an awfully lot of dumbed down American sheeple, some of whom are just waking up. We discussed some of this on another thread last night. One of the things we discussed is doing our part to continue to educate Joe and Jane Public every chance we get. That’s what CTH does. The election of PDJT is an example of what’s possible when people decide to take a stand for freedom.

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      • buzzybee says:

        aaaarrrggghh… the above reply was to Oldskool about ‘more of us than them’ but posted further down than I’d intended.

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  7. seabrznsun says:

    Excuse me while I get sick…to my stomach.

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  8. SDK says:

    I’ve been doing some research into the Scandinavian social welfare programs, because whenever I here Scandinavians talk about it, they seem to love it. This is curious to me – why they don’t mind handing over a huge percentage of their income to the government. Income taxes alone range from 30-60%, and even the poorest citizens are taxed at around 30%. They also have a VAT tax around 25%, and lots of miscellaneous taxes, which in the end can total 60% of a person’s pay. The conclusion is that the “free” services the government provides are anything but “free”, and when all’s said and done, Americans and Scandinavians come out pretty equal financially. The difference is that Americans can accumulate a higher net worth because they keep more of their money to spend at their own discretion. Scandinavians trade their wealth potential for social security – the government programs are there as a safety net should anyone go through a financial hardship, or failed to save enough for retirement.

    The ideological problem is that they basically give government control over a large portion of their lives. By law, everyone in the country must register their bank account with the government, which allows the government to make withdrawals for tax purposes. The government is the one that fills out the tax documents and then sends them to you for approval. This is quite shocking to Americans, as it’s done the opposite way here. The level of government intrusion in Scandinavian countries is astounding to anyone who is not a socialist. It all sounds wonderful on paper, but in order for it to work, government has to keep itself in check, and people must be willing to give up a generous portion of their private property to the state. I guess there are a lot of people out there who don’t mind it at all.

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    • Deadbeat says:

      In order for it to “work” you pretty much need a “homogeneous” society. To some degree, racially, yes, but certainly the same value structure. Having socialist program without having common values is a recipe for disaster. The problem is that the Cultural Marxists advocate for “multiculturalism” while at the same time attacking Christian values. Now throw socialist programs on top of that that envies achievement and promote sloth. What you’ll have is a disincentive population that sees sloth rewarded at the same level as achievement. Why the hell bother in that kind of environment.

      This is not new even in our own country. Divorced Fathers have been vocal about such Cultural Marxist disincentives for decades but people failed to listen. Now Marxism is being expanded into healthcare sector via “single payer”. The Marxist Globalist elites despise entrepreneurship and rewarding INDEPENDENT achievement and shared prosperity.

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    • Concerned Virginian says:

      The Swedes have been conditioned to trade just about ALL of their freedom for the doling out of “government comfort” and the welfare state.
      HOWEVER—-now that there are HORDES of “Syrian migrants” and other Muslim/opportunistic immigrants, ALL of whom are most likely getting the “government comfort: and welfare state that Sweden provides, it will INEVITABLY end up with native born Swedes having THEIR “benefits” reduced/taken away, so that the “government comfort” will be “evenly” handed around to ALL. Potential there also for their taxes to rise EVEN HIGHER, native Swedish birth rate to fall, etc. etc.
      Which is what the EU elites WANT to happen—so that Brussels becomes the power/control center of the EU. In the meantime, Brussels will have to fight off the efforts of the Germans and/or the French to assert themselves as EU “leaders”. And to make SURE there are NO more “Brexits”—as for example the Irish are starting to make noises about.
      Again—it’s all in the end about who in the elites has the most power/control over the lives of the people—and how much “freedom” the elites have IN COMPARISON to the people.

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    • buzzybee says:

      To SDK— in case this posts further downthread. My understanding of Scandinavians is that they never grew up with freedom, so they don’t know any different. Freedom is not something they once had and lost. Unlike America, where freedom is something we once had and are losing so slowly that most citizen sheeple don’t realize it. It’s the old frog in boiling water thing. Scandinavians didn’t start out with freedom the way we have, so they’re used to it. It’s something familiar to them. There’s comfort in familiarity, even if it’s something awful. Freedom means we have to get off our butts and do something. But I’m not that well versed in world history. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

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  9. Mickey Wasp says:

    I’ve got a different take on this kabuki theater of ‘repeal and replace’ Obamacare. Here me out.

    Paul Ryan, and his GOPe, along with several members of the FHC and all the Democrats did not want Obamacare done away with. But, the Republicans after campaigning for such (repeal and replace) had to give an illusion to the media and public of keeping their campaign promises.

    Having a vote was a lose-lose for all of them and they knew it. That is why Ryan pulled the vote. If it came up short – every ‘Nay’ vote was recorded and thus would suffer the consequences in the 2018 and 2020 election cycle. And if it passed and President Trump’s team, most notably HHS Sec Dr Tom Price, would get their hands on Obamacare in Stage 2 and strip it down and the changes they would implement, would have proved successful. Thus, a huge win for President Trump and his cabinet.

    The pulling of the vote and the number count has stuck in my gut, as Ryan knew it was going to pass. Because he knew that if Dr Price improved Obamacare in Stage 2 – there was no way of stopping Stage 3 because the public would have been clamoring for passage.
    Now … the numbers. It takes 217 votes and there are 237 Republican members in the US House. Minus the 30 FHC members, you are left with 207 votes. However, President Trump had 12 to 15 ‘Nay – sayers’ changed to ‘Yea’ votes and had as many as 18 of them move to ‘Yea’ votes. That is a total vote of 219 to 225. Stage 1 passes. One can say a few ‘moderates’ in closely battle-ground type districts could have voted ‘Nay’, but that ‘dog don’t hunt’. Because many had stated they were on-board and vote in ‘lemming’ fashion with the House leadership and the kabuki theater was that they wanted it to pass.

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    • Pinkie says:

      Nonsense. This has been an almost career ending humiliation for Ryan and as speaker he controlled whether to bring it to a vote. It clearly would not have passed.

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      • Mickey Wasp says:

        Really? An ‘almost’ career ending humiliation? How is that? While a few in the media are calling for Speaker Ryan to step down, none of the FHC or moderates in the House are.

        The allowing of a vote – would have been the career ending i.e. money donor dry up.
        If the vote had taken place – ALL the ‘nays’ would have been put in public record and Ryan could not allow that. Thus, being ousted as ,’never trumpers’ and against the vast majority of the voters. However, if it would have passed, HHS Sec Dr Price would have stripped all of the Ryan / GOPe / Chamber of Commerce / UniParty legislation they wanted.

        They (Ryan and UniParty) could clearly not allow a vote – they lose either way – a pass or fail. It’s the lesser hurt by not allowing the vote – they can keep up with the ‘we gave it our best’ kabuki theater. It’s a perfect cover …

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        • Pinkie says:

          Still not buyin’ your theory Wasp. Ryan may still be speaker but his reputation is in tatters. And under your theory, Trump and his team would have to either have been in on the fraud or hopeless chumps. Finally for anyone who has been paying attention the Nays are pretty well known. Not only are they not afraid of their votes, many are proud of them.

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          • Mickey Wasp says:

            It was President Trump that pushed for the vote … Because all the congress-critters he had talked with over the weeks, during various meetings, were all on board for the Three Stage Plan. Like it or not, Ryan is a savvy politician and knows how to cloak legislation.

            You say the ‘Nays’ are well known? Name them … can you name 4, maybe 5? Now take that number and minus it from 237 … Still over the 217 mark. Think … why did President Trump tweet out for everyone to watch Judge Jeannine?

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    • buzzybee says:

      Good points, Mickey W., but I do remember PDJT saying they were close but just short about 8 to 10 votes. I think Ryan knew they were short, so pulled the bill and had discussed it with the president first before pulling it (as reported). Why it was pulled instead of letting the chips fall where they may, I’m unsure. But I do not think it would have passed. We have much corruption and infiltration of socialist elitism in both parties. We the people, however, have ‘Trumped’ their aces with the rallies and election of PDJT. Trump himself has held the biggest trump card. They hold the aces. But he has a great trump suit. 😀

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  10. Serpentor says:

    Single payer is you waiting months to get emergency treatment. It’s bad news for you, me, and it’s bad news for the rest of the world as well (because they benefit from our medical innovation).

    Do you want to know the solution to our healthcare woes? Here it is, as succinctly as can be written in a comment:
    1. Enforce anti-trust law
    2. Enforce racketeering laws
    3. Repeal EMTALA
    4. Move Medicare/Medicaid to an EBT style healthcare credit

    Do these four things and “insurance” no longer matters. It will become what insurance is supposed to be (pooled risk against non-probable excessive costs).

    This four part plan can be halfway implemented immediately by Mr Jeff Sessions without Congress or their “reconciliation” process. A few federal racketeering charges against the biggest healthcare providers in the USA and we’d be on our way. Sure, the stock market would crumble, but everyone would be able to afford healthcare again and the budget would balance almost immediately.

    Ask yourself why it’s cheaper to go on vacation to a Western nation half-way across the globe, stay a few months, get all the advanced surgery and care, and return for LESS money than what it cost to provide the same service here.

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  11. Muthaucker says:

    So the Democrats are willing to repeal Obamacare after all.

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  12. freepetta says:

    No No No!!! We don’t want socialized meds!!

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  13. Willy says:

    This self-inflicted ryanocare cluster** has instantly revived the democrats. My guess now is that none of the promises will ever happen. Stopping floods of refugees being resettled in red states?
    Building the wall? Getting rid of tens of millions of illegal alien democrat voters? Where is the justice department? Where is the state department? Where is HHS?

    Why did we even vote, if the swamp controls everything?

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    • Howie says:

      Willy, we have a problem in DOJ and HHS I think so too. The main roadblock looks to be the DOJ to me so far. State seems to be a little better. Price and Sessions ahhh dunno. Not my cup of tea. BTW FREEMEDICARE FOR ALL is not a new plot. It has been on the schedule a while. Both though are far better than what the Beest would have installed. Trump is checking all the boxes in his campaign platform in these 100 days. At least trying his best. DHS is running on all cylinders with Kelley. maybe that is more important than DOJ right now.

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  14. Pinkie says:

    The Patient Freedom Act from Republican Sens. Bill Cassidy and Susan Collins’ is pretty interesting. It seems way better than the Ryan’s abomination. If Cassidy/Collins got rid of the Obamacare taxes for residents of states electing option three it would seem ideal. As an added benefit lot of the 1% might move to Red states.

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  15. john lorenz says:

    The real problem is getting Americans weaned from third party payors which pay for 90%+ of all healthcare expenses back to individual payment for most services. Hence the HCAs.

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    • Serpentor says:

      YES.

      Two choices: just fix it, despite the screaming and pain and watch as the system corrects by the time election comes back around and everyone is happy again, OR educate the people who have been conditioned and dumbed down by the system.

      I do see us making headway in educating. More and more comments here on CTH making sense, and recently Lara Ingraham talking about it, but that’s a long way from educating the percentage of people it would require (say 150 million people demanding it). I say just go for it, without popular consent, and get it done. The system will fix itself by the time an election comes around.

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  16. littlebird160 says:

    If emergency rooms were only for true emergencies and not for people with the sniffles, puddins, or other minor ailments, and were instead referred to critical care clinics with fixed pricing, then you would see a change in behavior. You don’t use insurance for an oil change on your car, do you? Just sayin…..

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    • Michael says:

      Got that right!
      My FIL (ultimately) died from lack of treatment in an ER (stroke) while all the freeloaders with hangnails and overdoses were treated because they were “disadvantaged”. Had he received treatment in a timely manner he might still be with us. He was unfortunately a damnocrat but unlike the current crop he didn’t have a mean bone in his body and was a contributing member of society.

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  17. Enlightened Vulgarian says:

    Forget ObamaCare, RyanCare, Or Any Future ReformCare – The Healthcare System Is Completely Broken:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-27/forget-obamacare-ryancare-or-any-future-reformcare-healthcare-system-completely-brok

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    • Enlightened Vulgarian says:

      “[A]ll institutional care decisions ultimately revolve around thwarting future liability claims and maximizing the billing value of each interaction or procedure….The scams are endless, the skims are endless, the fraud is endless, the waste is endless….”

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    • spaulj67 says:

      Yah, but didn’t you know, its all the HFC fault for why we have problems.

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      • Enlightened Vulgarian says:

        Ah, the kids are alright. Most of them can be properly groomed. The problem is how to dispose of the old folks who have lost their usefulness….

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  19. littlebird160 says:

    It’s the Prog strategy : “top-down, bottom-up, inside-out.” Make it so effed-up that the serfs cry out to their elected “saviors” begging them to fix it.

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    • Blade says:

      Yep. Otherwise known as Cloward Piven. A fancy name for their natural anarchist tendencies but refined and targeted at specific goals.

      How lucky for the leftists that they had embedded allies in the dogmatic (C)on-men caucus of Koch-suckers and CoC-suckers.

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  20. vinchenzer says:

    Thanks Republicans. You did it again. Ridiculous.

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  21. Dennis says:

    I just remembered going to see the Harlem Globetrotters when I was a teenager. The Globetrotters played the Washington Somethings (don’t remember which specific team name). The Globetrotters went out and dazzled and dunked — fake dribbles, completely violating rules of the game but showing off to the max, with its stars allowed solo moments — all set up/allowed by the fake opposing Washington team. People were awed and cheered for Meadowlark Lemon and his teammates. What a great time it was watching them.

    And then I realized — that’s the basis for the Uniparty. The Democrats are re-enacting the Globetrotters, and the Republican party makes up (ironically) the Washington team, the stooges who let the Democrats cheat and show off and violate rules. The game is always entertaining, but it makes no difference what happens in the game — the Globetrotters will win. The entire game is designed for them to win.

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  22. littlebird160 says:

    The sooner the dumb-masses wake up and realize the Gubment is not their friend and savior, and start accepting more responsibility for their future, the better chance we have for securing a better tomorrow for those yet to come. I will not hold my breath, though. There are too many disengaged and apathetic Americans who don’t care about or understand the freedoms that have been secured for them, or the true meaning of liberty. They are all too willing to forfeit an apparent inconsequential liberty for the illusion of security framed in the context of convenience.

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  23. Atticus says:

    Listen to comrade Bernie.
    Single payer is good for you.

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  24. George Hicks says:

    What’s Next for House Freedom Caucus After Poe’s Exit?
    Texas GOP Rep. Ted Poe’s exit from the House Freedom Caucus after it helped sink the Republicans’ ObamaCare overhaul has created widespread uncertainty about the political future of the caucus and its roughly 35 other members.

    The picture emerging Monday appeared to be that caucus members realize that their future largely depends on fulfilling campaign promises to fully repeal and replace the 2010 health care law.

    “You cannot always say no,” Poe told Fox News Monday morning, about 12 hours after his resignation from the conservative caucus and three days after House Speaker Paul Ryan cancelled a final vote on the bill in the GOP-led chamber.

    Poe, who supported the overall plan crafted by Ryan and his leadership team, also addressed the argument posed by President Donald Trump and others that voting against the plan could result in a 2018 re-election loss.

    “I think we will repeal it,” said Poe, a seven-term congressman. “We will do that.”

    Ohio GOP Rep. Jim Jordan, a caucus co-founder, said Monday, “We still have time.”
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/27/whats-next-for-house-freedom-caucus-after-poes-exit.html

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  25. UKExpat says:

    And the American public are STUPID enough to fall for it. So the USA will get its Govt Controlled Health Service just as the UK’s much vaunted Govt and UNION controlled NHS collapses is utter failure,

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  26. itsy_bitsy says:

    That’s it democrats! Obamacare wasn’t bad enough, but now you want to put into action a plan that has failed everywhere it is used!

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  27. PFCal says:

    The Republicans can overtake the Democrats’ “brilliant” strategy by doing what they said they would do as soon as they were in a position to do it. Well, they’re now in that position. Unfortunately, the Ryan bill was a travesty.

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