CNN Interviews Ford CEO Mark Fields – Ford Investing $1.6 Billion In Mexico Auto Plant…

This is a really important interview to grasp the scope of the America-First economic challenge in front of Donald Trump and specifically U.S. workers.  Unfortunately, what follows below is the best version of the interview we can find and it has edits, significant edits by CNN, to the initial portion of the interview as it originally aired.

For those unfamiliar with how structured these types of interviews are, there are a few key aspects worth noting in advance of watching the video:

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♦ CEO Mark Fields is not alone in this interview.  Off camera there are key corporate executive advisers, PR, Marketing, HR, Risk Mgmt., etc. positioned to give immediate feedback toward any sound bites that can have an adverse impact on the corporate objectives.  There’s a few times when you can see Fields taking cues from those voices.

♦ The CEO corporate culture (starts in MBA school) teaches executives how to use code words and phrases to avoid pitfalls, and unless you are skilled -or familiar- in detecting the nuance, much of the significant verbiage can be missed.  Words and phrases matter.

There’s a big difference between a major corporate CEO saying “investment in North America“, and “investment in America“.  The former references international trade agreements such as NAFTA which apply to Mexico the U.S. and Canada, the latter is directed to the United States.  Pay close attention and you’ll note the importance.

♦  Notice how Mark Fields will not answer key and specific questions directly.  Instead choosing to use parseltongue and politispeak coded language.  This is a trained skill much like a professional politician is trained in non-answers that leave the viewer/listener the impression of an answer.

♦  Pay additional attention to phrases such as:

• “retained or created jobs“, you’ll notice the similarity to “saved or created jobs” vis-a-vis the Obama stimulus.  The use of the phrases holds a similar intent.

• “most of our investment is here in the U.S.“, this is a slight-of-word use.  Of course Ford has most of their investment here in the U.S., the historic valued infrastructure is part of that phrase.

The issue for this conversation is “future investment or reinvestment”, and that’s where you see the verbiage shift (use of) “North America” coming into play.

• “value market” is the term for cheaper cars.  In this example the Ford Focus model.

Notice also Poppy Harlow was finally able to pin Fields down on “40% labor savings”. That specific number is where you hear the counter Trump approach of a 35% tariff which would eliminate that incentive.  If Ford saves 40% labor cost on Ford Focus vehicles by building in Mexico, and they face a 35% Tax upon re-import, the incentive to have Mexican workers build the vehicle is lost.   Notice Mark Fields avoids answering that question.

Notice also Harlow asks about the 40% savings and where that profit is reinvested.  Notice how Fields says the monies return to the corporate structure (U.S.A.) where reinvestment determinations are made.  However, the reinvestment determination, as previously outlined, is “a North American” and/or “global” determination.  Parseltongue.

On one hand the CEO states the goal is to remain competitive in the “value market” (ie. cheap car market like Kia etc.), however, at the same time Fields never mentions lowering the price, because it’s the profit margin actually driving the decision – not any consumer savings.   The U.S.A market (consumer) will not see Ford Focus vehicles drop in price; instead they’re just made in Mexico at a lower cost.

bernie frustrated warrenThis key distinction is the heart of the Economic Patriotism argument.

An argument that Bernie Sanders has made effectively, Donald Trump has also recognized, and one which through the course of time -and history has empirically evidenced- creates terrible long-term consequences for the rapidly diminishing middle class U.S. worker.

The economic patriotism distinction is also where traditionally minded conservatives, like myself, have reevaluated the bigger picture and accepted the following:  In a global world the concept of traditional economic models (for free-market capitalism) are no longer working on behalf of the United States of America – because there is no national pride or incentive attached to the end goal, profit.

Paul Samuelson, the Nobel laureate from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, recalled that John Maynard Keynes once was challenged for altering his position on some economic issue:

“When my information changes,” said Keynes “I change my mind. What do you do Sir?”

While I have never agreed with Keynesian economic theory, Keynes attributed quote itself is never more apropos than today’s 2016 American economics argument amid various conservatives.   What good is Mark Levin’s definition of conservatism, when there’s no middle class America left to conserve?

What good are George Will’s free market theories when the end result is the outflow of American wealth into poorer, less economically developed countries, while we EBT ourselves into a national debt crisis because we are trying to sustain the diminished value of the American worker?

Not only is this historic approach now rapidly becoming the pathway into an unrecoverable American economic death spiral, it is also global wealth distribution done by Wall Street, not Main Street.

The result, our result, is an ever expanding, seemingly impossible to stop, wealth gap, creating an unnatural and profoundly unhealthy class system, in America, between the “Rich” and “Poor”.

We do not need socialism to fix the problem, we need economic patriotism from industrial giants, Main Street, who value the principles behind putting American-workers-First.

Now, watch the video [*Note* ignore the pontificating liberalism of Poppy Harlow or you’ll miss important stuff]:

Ford is willing to spend $1.6 BILLION to create 2,800 jobs in Mexico, to save 40% on the price of their “value product line” of automobiles.

If a Ford Focus costs $8,000 to manufacture (in Mexico). How many Focus’s would they need to sell at an additional 40% profit margin to make up for their initial investment of $1.6 BILLION. Do the math, and you’ll realize why I shall never again purchase a Ford vehicle.

Ford CEO Mark Fields, like many modern vulture capitalists, is a globalist – not an America-First CEO.

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324 Responses to CNN Interviews Ford CEO Mark Fields – Ford Investing $1.6 Billion In Mexico Auto Plant…

  1. zephyrbreeze says:

    When’s the last time we saw a popular employer standing with his employees, cheering them on and thanking them for their great work, and speaking of more work to come?

    It was Mr. Trump, in the ballroom, with the microphone.

    This Ford Overlord along with the Carrier Overlords have been the abusive bearers of bad news, breaking the hearts of American workers and their families.

    Who can’t tell the difference between light and darkness?

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    • Well this type of thing happens at Verizon all the time…but ahhhhh…the employesss are primaraly H 1 B visa holders.

      So Verizon has these “town halls” with the employees, the “brass” shows up once a month and “rah, rahs” the employees, but like I said…the employees are mostly Indians, Chinese and Russians…but many, many Indians by far!

      I recently walked away from a $156,000.00 a year job with Verizon because of this…I am not kidding…I walked! I refuse to be apart of this sick practice of H 1 B hiring before Americans!

      Below is my resignation letter (email). The Indian connection as I call it, is horrifying! These folks hire one good American worker so that five inept Indian workers can stay here on their H 1 B visas. 85% of management is Indian men, from the VP, Directors and Managers…SAD!!! I sent this letter to the CEO of Verizon along with a multitude of directors and managers!!! Enjoy!!! 🙂

      To Diversant and Verizon Telematics August 8, 2016
      Letter of Resignation and Exit Statement

      I must at this time render to Diversant and its client Verizon Telematics my formal resignation.
      After serious consideration and soul searching I can in no way in good conscience continue to work for your client, Verizon Telematics. My reasons for decision can be found below and is as follows:
      Addressing what my specific work requirements actually were during my time at Telematics were if nothing less…confusing. It was my understanding that I was hired to assist in Telematics ongoing Micro-Services Cloud Platform project. About four months ago my manager brought me in to Telematics not so much for my technical expertise (though I have much) but for my organizational skills, keen insight skills, work ethic and “get it done” attitude. I was brought in to assist in the design, implementation and organization of a new Micro-Services in-house cloud platform for the Micro-Services portion of Verizon Telematics (at least this is what I was told). The new platform, as it was explained to me, was to be the foundation for a new and improved methodology for bringing development processes for new products from development to testing and into production quicker, easier and in a more standardized way. Literally, taking the idea of DevOps and bringing the idea to reality.
      It wasn’t long before I realized that what was actually happening was not an endeavor to bring a trusted and dependable Micro-Services in-house cloud platform environment to reality. An in-house environment built on tested industry standard hardware and software technology along with it use policies.
      No, what was actually occurring and is now still occurring is an attempt to save the face of a middle management structure that has dismally failed to plan and document the current Micro-Services in-house cloud endeavor requested by Telematics upper management. A project that from the director level down to the individuals doing the work seems to be unrealistic, in fact the magnitude of ineptness of the team (if you can call them that), is monumental!
      If this seems unfathomable, all one needs to do to prove my assertions is to actually ask for the Micro-Services in-house cloud plan documentation as it exists today. The facts are the facts, and the fact is this documentation does not exist, at least not in any discernable format. Nor, does an actual project plan with attainable milestones and goals in any form exist for this endeavor!
      There has or should I say hasn’t been completed the following basic items for successful completion of this project (here are the top 10 issues):
      No formal scope of work.
      No formal cost analysis for hardware or software needed.
      No formal time and finance analysis for human resources.
      No formal proof of concept (POC) for any of the work either past, present or future.
      No formal project plan defining resources, milestones and deliverables.
      No attempt to formalize concepts for security and its planning.
      No attempt to formalize solutions for the many technical gaps in the existing environment.
      No formal cross department communications and cooperation to achieve goals for a successful outcome of the project.
      No contact with the business to discuss policy and process continuity.
      No accountability for project deliverables.

      What does exist concerning this endeavor is a half built platform with many technical gaps, sparse, inaccurate and dated documentation (if any at all), the covering up of mistakes by stakeholders and middle management concerning the platform’s design planning, the scope of the platform’s use, and its completion into a viable asset for Telematics Micro-Services or any other part of the business and a series of appalling missteps of unbelievable magnitude.
      In my opinion there seems to be an ongoing, in grown “save face” crusade by middle management concerning this project, meant to deceive an upper management hierarchy that demands results, as well as a push to meet a November 1, 2016 go live date, that in my opinion is impossible to meet, at least with the existing platform. Of course, with no real project direction or plan who is to say what the outcome requirements actually are?
      Again, if I am overstating these issues simply ask for the documentation…what you will find is exactly as I have stated. In fact, I have never seen such ineptness and such little attention to detail in my entire career. Any hope that this project in the state that it is presently in will actually become reality yielding any type of actual value to Telematics Micro-Services or any aspect of the business is a pipe dream, at least by November 1, 2016. It is my hope that after reading my statement that Verizon Telematics is able to address some of these issues in order to complete their project.
      My actual work for the last few months was to gain knowledge of the existing platform, along with the business requirements and assist my management with the identification of problematic areas, both technically and structurally with the present platform and its plan of implementation.
      Much was done to identify such problematic areas, however the method that was required for such identification of problematic areas was in and of itself problematic. Though the techniques we used were unorthodox we did manage to complete formal Gap Analysis dealing with problematic areas of the current platform, here are some of the issues that surrounded completing the Gap Analysis.
      No formal documentation exists for the existing platform or the process of its past work so individual interviews of those who worked on the platform were conducted in almost interrogational fashion.
      Multiple meetings with directors, stakeholders and venders were scheduled.
      Meetings were often rescheduled or canceled altogether by different stakeholders.
      Required project stakeholders would often be absent from meetings that actually occurred, or came late to the meetings.
      Meetings to discuss discovered platform gaps were often backlogged as not important (meetings occurred days or weeks apart)
      Stakeholders seem to give little importance to completing this project.
      Once problematic areas were identified, no actual action took place to resolve these issues.
      Stakeholders finally admitted that the existing platform had severe issues but this didn’t take place until Thursday August 11, 2016 to my knowledge.
      A formal comprehensive analyses (Gap Analysis) of the current platform’s short comings had been completed at least forty (40) days prior to August 11, 2016.
      No indication was ever given that the actual Gap Analyses documentation was ever presented to upper management either formally or informally.

      To be clear, my time with Telematics was not what I had hoped. What occurred Monday, August 15, 2016 was as follows.

      I was informed on Monday, August 15, 2016 by Telematics management that I would no longer be needed or working within the work scope that I was originally hired. It was my understanding and it was originally stated to me that I would be working on the Micro-Services Cloud Platform Project, but as of Monday, August 15, 2016 I was informed that this was no longer the case and that I was no longer needed for that specific project.
       
      I was informed Monday, August 15, 2016 by Telematics management that I had the option to stay with the firm and re-scope the work for my position at Telematics, which was to architect the ongoing Splunk and Dynatrace projects that are currently in progress but severely behind schedule. It was stated to me that I could take these projects on and that I would not be permitted to change the “go live” date for the completion of these projects. Telematics management gave no other information about the re-scope nor did they mention a change in compensation for this re-scope. I was simply told that they were redefining my position there.

      I have made the decision not to accept this re-scope and have decided to not accept the offer that Telematics has proffered.

      Since the original scope of work has been changed concerning me, and it was Verizon Telematics decision not to move forward with the project to which I initially joined their firm I don’t feel that I have violated the contract between Diversant and myself by offering this resignation. I also feel that since I have fulfilled my obligation for the scope of work and that Telematics has decided to move in a different direction that I be formally released from any contractual obligations between Diversant, Verizon Telematics and myself.

      Thank you
      William Ray

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      • PreNanny says:

        Good luck William you did the right thing, hope no blowback comes your way.

        Liked by 1 person

      • Somewhere in Dixie says:

        You can thank Teddy “The Swimmer” Kennedy for the Indian invasion in IT and other professions. His 1986 immigration law did this to America.

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      • Paco Loco says:

        Situation Normal All F…cked Up (SNAFU). Corporate governance from the top executives to middle management in all of the great American corporations ( IBM, AT&T, HP, GM) has become an albatross. In today’s corporations, management by “circle jerk” has replaced management by objective. US corporations were able to put a man on the moon in seven years after Kennedy’s stated goal. This was accomplished through using basic performance evaluation techniques, without personal computers and without all of the smart apps available today. It was done through effective “goal driven” personal management by employees who actually cared about the work product and were AmeriCANs first and corporate employees second. Ford management cares only about market share and quarterly earnings to keep the stock price up and their bonus packages. If it means screwing American workers to achieve these goals, too bad. “We’re a global player, and we don’t need no stinking UAW (high labor costs a what’s behind Ford moving to non-Union Mexico) treating to strike and all of the over priced “bennies”. The Democrats and their big Union labor cronies ( think Trumpka) are the reason that Ford and others US corporations move off shore.

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      • F D says:

        Thank you for your service, William, and fortitude. Your familiarity with the industry and my belief that dollars are spent on America first companies makes a difference, may I ask which carrier is best to patronize?

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    • skipper1961 says:

      zephyrbreeze,
      LIKE A BOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • tempo150101 says:

      Trust me when I say this, the announcement was no accident. Ford has the best advertising and PR people in the world. These announcements are always time to for a reason. They easily could have waited until after the election to make this announcement. There is no pressing need to make the announcement now, that is unless they wanted to help Trump.

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      • Clancy Haber says:

        To be fair, for many years in the 90’s and 00’s, Ford was very vocal about currency manipulation and unfair trade. It seems, though, as if twenty-eight uninterrupted years of globalist U.S. Presidential administrations forced Ford to turn that way too, as it was all just shouting in the wind during the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama years. No one in D.C. cared.

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  2. andi lee says:

    This is kind of interesting. Ford builds cars in Russia, too.

    (Thought Russia was the mortal enemy of America)

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    • rmnewt says:

      it was the Soviet Union that was our “mortal enemy”

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      • tempo150101 says:

        Exactly. The Soviet Union was a Godless, atheist, communist state intent on invading other countries and exporting communism around the world. Russia is a Christian country that only wants what rightfully belongs to it and otherwise wants to be left alone. Another Christian country is not my enemy although the warmongers in our government don’t quite see it that way.

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  3. yohio says:

    Another great explantion here from Sundance and posters. Thanks

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  4. Troublemaker says:

    Why did Ford need H1B visa workers?

    “Ford Motor Company has filed 194 labor condition applications for H1B visa and 39 labor certifications for green card from fiscal year 2013 to 2015. Ford Motor Company was ranked 1027 among all visa sponsors. ”
    http://www.myvisajobs.com/Visa-Sponsor/Ford-Motor-Company/201421.htm

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  5. Gov Jay says:

    Trump usually mentions that one of his friends builds industrial plants and is the biggest in the world… Does anyone know the name of this person?… My guess… and it’s only speculation primarily based on the “biggest in the world” criteria… is that the person is Stephen Bechtel… Anyone?…

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    • MVW says:

      There will be a lot of new factory construction money to be made in the next 8 Trump years in the USA.

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    • grainofsalt2 says:

      Bechtel Corporation was very huge way back in the 1980s. I used to work for Bechtel Corp.

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    • RP says:

      Hmmm – probably. Interesting to me, have an acquaintance with a fellow that manages/supervises the concrete flooring in these mega-factories. He does very, very well but must travel for extended periods of time away from family.

      Over beers and chicken wings one day he was describing the scope of effort and explaining just how important and fascinating something as mundane and overlooked like a concrete floor is in a warehouse with all the precision equipment and robotics now a days.

      I don’t recall the exacts but he was saying that the floors in some of these warehouses are dozens of football fields in size and they must not exceed more than 1/32″ or 1/64″ variance over a distance of something like 2 football fields.

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  6. goswell says:

    Ford has been in the UK news lately with its decision to scale back investments, after getting special government deals to reinvest over recent years. Global Ford is a good company to work for until they see a cheaper place to make cars or car parts, at which point they pay off people as cheaply as they can and abandon the manufacturing site. It won’t end well. Open borders and movement of labor doesn’t fool people. That business model is unstable. If Ford units that move out of Bridgend, Wales, resurface somewhere in Mexico or perhaps Turkey, there will be trouble and it won’t be because of Brexit, it will be because European labor representatives don’t want to be toyed with.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/06/ford-scales-back-investment-in-bridgend-engine-plant/
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-37366633

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  7. MVW says:

    I think about Ford like I think about the Gordian knot solution… Cut it by electing Trump. Trump is the knife. End of story.

    I want to hear the Primal Libtard scream on November 8. Counting the days, hours, and minutes.

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  8. Lulu says:

    Look at the German unions and they still build cars there. I’m not saying the unions don’t hurt themselves, but non-union American companies have left as well. It’s that they have no country or loyalty.

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  9. thesavvyinvester says:

    Not to stick up for Fields, but the total picture is not being discussed. What is going to be built in the Wayne Assembly Plant with small cars going to Mexico? The Ford Ranger ( which is now a non-US product only ) and a variant aka “The Bronco” make a comeback, both higher margin Vehicles. This was leaked by the UAW, read the Detroit centric auto media going back over a year ago…
    Now… If DJT gets rid Obamacare, lowers Corp Tax too 15%, and Obama’s new work rules, THEN maybe Ford’s margins will be great enough to build the small cars here. The burden of Regulation and threat of lawsuits drive the cost of cars up dramatically ( Source, rapid interview with Bill Ford in Detroit Business Magazine ) That is the real issue, My hope is DJT makes the the playing field much greener for all Manufacturers in all Industries….

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    • Hillbilly4 says:

      Listen to Springsteen’s song: Your hometown.
      partial lyrics follow-
      Now Main Street’s whitewashed windows and vacant stores
      Seems like there ain’t nobody wants to come down here no more
      They’re closing down the textile mill across the railroad tracks
      Foreman says these jobs are going boys and they ain’t coming back
      To your hometown
      Your hometown
      Your hometown

      Your hometown

      Substitute ‘textile mills’ with just about ANY manufacturing , and you get it.

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    • Paco Loco says:

      Exactly! Cut the overhead, increase margins and compete on quality and price.

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      • thesavvyinvester says:

        “Exactly! Cut the overhead, increase margins and compete on quality and price.”

        Paco, it is not only that, IMHO it will be a task to get Millennials interested in cars and driving again. I went down the internet rabbit hole last night and stumbled upon a series of You-Tube movies that were almost invites for venture capital for a range of: fold-able bicycles, electric scooters of all types ( one with fat tires that was deemed the “Harley” of scooters, yes it was cool) and even electric skateboards. Why? that inventor market is hot right now. IMHO the younger generation is looking at these vehicles as a replacement for the auto ( until kids arrive ) especially if they commute via mass transit and can take the “fold-able” with them to get to their sometimes multiple jobs. They don’t see the car as end all be all, they will work or buy around it, which is a challenge for the Ford’s of the world, they might end up competing against these contraptions. Now IF Donald J. Trump can get the economy going where they get a job that makes entertaining a car an option, that is a solution not for Ford but so many other industries of which this younger generation might have just shrugged at buying their stuff, because they have given up on stuff, not that stuff is a good thing, which is a different argument. Add this Demographic issue and driverless cars to the mix and IMHO ALL the auto manufacturers face strong exogenous headwinds. You and I agree, if I may re-write it, a bit, Cut the “Goverment-Created-Overheads” and then fight on Quality and Price!!!

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  10. Jack says:

    I used to believe the Labor unions were the bad guys. They’re not. It’s the only weapon workers had against the (((Oligarchs))) in the 20th Century. Look at those same Oligarchs today, hiring H1B visa over Americans, and locating IT “offshore”, shifting their “global footprint”. It’s all B.S. Sundance is right. Conservatives have been sold a bill of goods by (((no-conservative))) globalists who plunder American workers. They want the protection of U.S. laws and U.S. economic stability, but not U.S workers.

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      I agree regarding the labor unions. However, there is a big problem, and I am not sure what could be done to address this: the Marxists coming in and unionizing everyone in an industry just to get the power and money, and probably to weaken U.S. economic power.

      A great many of those active in union infrastructure never worked in the actual business. I heard from friends a couple years ago that a long-time fellow-traveler democrat was working with a union – this guy was itinerant – never worked a union-type labor job in his life. He just shared the politics of the union, and they had an opening for an activist.

      Ways to break this: never have mandatory membership; allow more than one employee “union,” and ??

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      • I have a way to fix it – my solution fixes most of the Country’s problems. Return to the states authority over labor. That, and no government jobs can be unionized. Allowing that was absolute insanity.

        Restoring the original division of supreme powers between the states and the federal government fixes almost everything. It’s a simple solution, but not an easy one.

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      • Democrat – you are right here. I’d add: a) Take the hints from laws pushed through Wisconsin legislature by Gov. Scott Walker on public unions and extend where appropriate to private industry unions; and b) Get government OUT of labor negotiations and industry regulations.That should give corporate American massive incentives to stay in the US.

        BTW, I’m in Switzerland right now and see Fords all over the place, including some not made or sold in the U.S. I’m guessing that most if not all small Ford cars and trucks will be sold south of our border, not in the US. I don’t know why the Ford CEO didn’t say that.

        Final BTW – “economic patriotism” is one of the most chilling phrases I’ve ever read. It smacks of some form of government coercion which NEVER works to produce positive results.

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    • I like Trump’s idea to refocus on American manufacturing but managing the process will be a bit of a balancing act. ‘Protected” companies and labor will certainly have the temptation to abuse their new found position and abuse us, their ultimate consumer via costs and quality. It’s a delicate balance but the road we are currently on is rather suicidal in the long run.

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  11. lastinillinois says:

    This is truly disheartening.

    My wife has never owned, but always wanted, a Ford Mustang.
    We are currently considering a Mustang purchase, possibly end of model year 2016.

    Now I have no desire to make this purchase.

    Corporate America/world is rapidly working at leaving us ZERO alternatives in our seeking out of America first companies.

    Ugh.
    Damn.

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    • dave says:

      At least the Japanese build their cars here. My Toyotas were built in Texas.

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      • Paul Killinger says:

        Increasingly, Japanese cars are NOT built offshore, which has resulted in a boon to their domestic economy. Like Donald says, they’re SMARTER than we are..

        It’s simple to find out where your car was made. If the VIN begins with a “1” it was built in the US, if it begins with a “J” it was made in Japan .

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    • PreNanny says:

      Buy her an older Mustang that is what she has dreamed of all these years anyway, perhaps the model year you got married? No money goes to Ford and she melts in your arms for being so romantic win win 😉

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    • Jett Black says:

      Buy a pre-1971 classic. All American and awesome!

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    • thesavvyinvester says:

      LL, see my post above for perspective, we are not getting the full story IMHO. Wish I could afford to buy a new Stang’, dang, I’d love to have one too.

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      • Saw one of the new Mustangs here in Switzerland yesterday! Unaware of this thread, and accompanied by a friend who is not into cars, I couldn’t give you more details except that it was GORGEOUS! Details would have included where it was built and sold.So sorry.

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  12. Pigg says:

    I’ve recently read where the peso is in a downfall against the dollar. This is yet another incentive to get Corporations to move to Mexico. Sounds similar to Trumps argument against China.

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  13. bulwarker says:

    SD wrote: “What good is Mark Levin’s definition of conservatism, when there’s no middle class America left to conserve?”

    I’ve heard Levin squawk several times about how great “free-trade” is because of the low level service jobs he encounters while shopping for a cheap, flimsy $3 trinket at Walmart. Because those, according to him, are apparently good jobs and Americans need access to junk (abject materialism). No mention of the numerous recalls of said junk because of inferior production practices in China and Mexico. No mention of why I should want a cheap $3 plastic colander that leechs BPA and breaks after six months instead of a solid metal $12 American one that will last a lifetime, other than initial cost. No mention of the lower class service jobs replacing industrial ones, the latter once being a gateway to the middle-class and skilled labor. No mention of the danger inherent in allowing our global enemies, like China, to control the majority of materials production essential when guaranteeing our sovereignty in times of conflict/war. Nothing other than how people have a “right” to cheap $%&@ made by slave labor to lower standards than we’d accept here.

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    • dave says:

      AND; in a major world war (think Allies vs. Axis style) from whom will we buy our weapons? Where will we get the steel? How quickly could we ramp up production of shuttered oil wells? Have we still got sufficient intellectual capital?

      dave

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    • The ghost formerly known as Prince says:

      Levin is an ideologue. He discusses the benefits of free trade on some ideal plane, without any regard to what happens in the real world today.

      The so-called “free-trade agreements” we have are not free trade as Adam Smith would have understood the word. Rather they are crony capitalism international.

      As Donald Trump has said, the foreign companies and they were American quisling allies would rather make money moving things out of the United States then making them here. It’s all about dollars and cents, the environmentalists and other government social justice regulators drive companies offshore, and their crony capitalist buddies make lots of money doing that.

      Mark Levin is the kind of guy who, hearing somebody complain about undrinkable contaminated water in Flint Michigan, begins to rail that water is the best beverage for your health and then goes on the long tirade about how bad sugary drinks are. No concept of reality.

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    • Hillbilly4 says:

      You would be better to listen to your hairstylist on economic issues than Levin. No where on the vast internet is Levin listed as an economist. ON this issue he is a poseur.

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  14. The ghost formerly known as Prince says:

    Actually, this case is far more instructive about what s difference Trump’s comprehensive, integrated economic policies will make in creating an environment where companies WANT. to stay in the US, compared to the piecemeal and incoherent policies we have now.

    Ford (the only American automaker that DIDN’T take a taxpayer bailout in 2009) and the other automakers are compelled to sell a certain number of these “value” economy cars in order to meet the EPA’s fuel economy goals (CAFE standards) which are arbitrary and keep increasing based on the whims of the greenies running that agency. These cars are sold at very low margins, often zero or even a loss (negative contribution margin – it doesn’t cover the overhead) to insure enough of them sell to meet the government mandate. In other words, Ford is required to sell at a loss to avoid costly government fines.

    The second thing to recognize is that liberals progressives look at corporations like Ford as nothing more than a piggy bank to fund their utopian social programs. They impose all sorts of taxes, expensive regulations, and other restrictions on employment in the United States that increases the cost of our labor, which is already expensive. And then they seem to be surprised when, having done everything they can to make American industry and labor under competitive in a global market , Companies move overseas.

    Furthermore, they compound this by incentivizing “global trade”. So in essence, the government requires companies to undertake expensive projects that make no business sense whatsoever, in order to meet some bureaucratic goal, and then they do everything they can to force companies to leave the United States, and yet incentivize them to bring it in from other parts of the world. Part of the reason is they would rather offshore the pollution to please the United States based greenies.

    Donald Trump, as a businessman, understands that everything needs to work together furthering the same goal. He has said that the package he proposes is comprehensive in making companies want to stay in the United States, expand in the United States, and dis-incentivizing moving off shore. That is why I think Trump has a much better idea about how to fix the economy then his opponent, who is frankly clueless about damn near everything. Except graft and corruption.

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    • Paul Killinger says:

      This is also why pickup trucks, which are less expensive to produce than sedans, now sell for $50-$60 thousand each. Compelled to build small cars to meet ever increasing CAFE standards, automakers must make up the difference elsewhere to come out.

      Hence, when you buy a pickup or SUV, you’re actually SUBSIDIZING the cost of a smaller car. But the biggest problem the Greens are facing is with increasing US gasoline supplies, their “Model” no longer works at all (especially for electric cars).

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    • JC says:

      Ford did accept a $5.9 billion dollar loan from U.S. taxpayers in June, 2009.

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  15. JoAnn Leichliter says:

    One cannot but wonder whether, given a more competitive tax structure and fewer burdensome governmental regulations (be they environmental or otherwise), corporations would remain in the U.S. l think that, by and large, they would. If we were to institute a national sales tax (as outlined in the Fair Tax legislation that has languished for years), there would be an influx of capital investment the like of which we can hardly imagine, because savings to businesses and consumers would be huge. No other tax: just the sales tax, and that only on new items. Of course, Congress resists it, because–no matter how beneficial it might be to the country–it would deprive legislators of a weapon with which can punish and extort.

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    • No sales tax!!! Not beneficial. It is not the TYPE of tax that must be changed, it is the TOTAL AMOUNT of taxes collected that is important to the country. Don’t be fooled by changing names of taxes. All taxes are bad and unfair and punish one or more victim groups, so concentrate on reducing ALL govt spending. I like Trump’s “one cent” plan!

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  16. Pam says:

    Yes, if you ignore Poppy and just listen very carefully to Mark Fields, you will hear him say the words global and North America repeatedly. No wonder some of these union workers are ignoring their union boses and voting Trump. They realize that if they still have a job now, that eventually, they won’t.

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  17. Qbinky says:

    We decided to buy a Ford for our last car purchase specifically because they did not go the government buy-out route. We are in the market for a vehicle now. If, Sundance, you’ll never buy another Ford, then what car brand is there we can turn to? Seriously, I “vote” a lot with my money and my feet by trying to choose made in America products and not shopping at businesses that don’t share my values.

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  18. I need to buy a new car soon. Which manufacturers do protect American jobs?

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  19. JoeS says:

    I agree with everything that you said here, and this quote stands out to me:

    “In a global world the concept of traditional economic models (for free-market capitalism) are no longer working on behalf of the United States of America – because there is no national pride or incentive attached to the end goal, profit.”

    I think that “free-market capitalism” is not only not working for the USA, but also it is not working in any place else.

    The reason that I think that is that there is no “free market capitalism.” Free market capitalism is a misnomer. The world economic system is more like crony capitalism or, better, FEUDALISM!

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  20. duchess says:

    I will NEVER buy Ford again. I also am in the market for a new car as poster above-but will look elsewhere. This is a really great expose by Sundance. Kudos.

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    • JC says:

      Same here, Duchess. Never.

      Seems to be common consensus among conservatives that the Prius is a “tree-hugger” car driven exclusively by brain-dead liberals, but I owned one of the first manufactured. Best car – by far – I have ever owned. I took off on a 17,000-mile road trip of the U.S. and Canada in an attempt to recover from serious “serial trauma” incurred over a period of years. Second catastrophic house fire was my last straw. I put everything into storage, took off in a 2003 Prius and criss-crossed America. The Prius allowed me to do so economically. Best decision I ever made, both the trip and the car. My Toyota Prius was made in Kentucky.

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  21. Duhders says:

    I’m disappointed in the shift of fact in this article. The labor cost of a car is not the full cost of the car (it’s estimated to be near 10%), therefore a 40% decrease in labor cost is not going to result in a 40% profit margin increase based on labor savings alone.

    There was so much more that could have been included, but this article is clearly published to induce specific political reaction that easily could have the same results without the above manipulation.

    So many factors go into a decision to move operations and I wish those factors had been elucidated as they would have shown how the disastrous policies implemented since the early 90’s have a combinatorial effect to the detriment of the USA. Not only that, but the decisions that were made by Ford could have easily been tied into many other previous fantastic articles here…the one that particularly sticks out in my recent memory is the article about how food items, energy and other essential costs for living have increased while TV’s, shirts, foreign made items cost less than they did 30-40 years ago.

    Why did Ford decide to invest in Mexico? Let’s look at all the factors:
    1. Supply chain – Ford already has 2 stamping plants and a motor plant in MX.
    2. Shipping – Not only will shipping time (and probably costs) of materials to produce the vehicle be reduced, but also shipping of the finished vehicles to their intended markets be easier due to trade agreements, but also shipping time will be reduced.
    3. Energy costs – assuming Ford doesn’t go totally green energy will be less costly (this argument would be moot if they go green because they could achieve same results in parts of USA…like TX!)
    4. Already discussed in article, labor costs.
    5. Read “The ghost formerly known as Prince’s” comment above about CAFE.

    Taking these few broad factors into consideration the only one decision that was not affected by political policy would be location based on shipping time to market.

    Finally, someone above mentioned 35% tariffs wouldn’t eliminate the decision to move. I agree, however if you combine that with Trump’s proposal to decrease the corporate tax rate then the synergy of these two policy shifts would have kept plants like Carrier, Ford, etc…not unlike when you give someone a job that is on welfare you create a doubling of your money effect.

    Thanks for reading.

    Sources:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/10/business/economy/10leonhardt.html?_r=0
    http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2016/04/06/6-reasons-ford-mexico-new-plant/82693218/

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    • Charlie says:

      American Worker!!! Did you forget the human factor? Disconnected to human dignity.
      “Political reaction”, “shift of fact”, God help us if you employ people.

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      • Duhders says:

        I don’t think you understand what I wrote and your response proves my point about this article’s intent to evoke a political response. Specifically, re-read the last eleven words of my second paragraph. I never said the move by Ford was a good thing. I said this article misrepresented the 40% fact. What brought me here in the first place was the use of facts free from manipulation to elucidate how we are being lied to by those in charge for their own gain. The factors I listed, with references, tell the more encompassing story without the need for manipulation. Again, even though my verbiage may be critical, my end message was the same as SD’s article.

        Concerning your final statement: you have your right to your opinion despite your not knowing my character, but business is not all touchy and feely. And to ease your mind I don’t employ people, although I was once in a position of leadership. In the most general of considerations, would you rather have an executive/manager/leader make a tough decision that hurts a % of their employees or continue on the same course so everyone lose their job when the company fails?

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        • Charlie says:

          Globalist greed creates the multitude of bad decisions which is very different from main street businesses. Colateral damage IS main street America because bean counters/lawyers/politicians need their heroin fix (power). Societal breakdown has created this monster and middle America is currently on the menu for destruction.
          Yeah, remember “%” has a face, this is the disconnect.

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  22. trapper says:

    Twelve foreign car companies build cars in America.

    https://www.thestreet.com/story/13244632/2/10-foreign-cars-still-made-in-the-usa.html

    What’s Ford’s problem? Couldn’t Ford just purchase the shuttered Mitsubishi plant in Bloomington Illinois?

    http://www.pantagraph.com/business/local/mitsubishi-plant-sold-to-michigan-auction-firm/article_eb921a5a-37fa-5b33-ade8-4003786b1a55.html

    The answer is that Ford is not just looking to walk away from its UAW wages. High management salaries at US plants would also be left behind. See here for some background:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-true-price-of-auto-labor-costs/

    Instead of staying in America and hashing it out with its American citizen employees (both UAW and white collar), Ford is jut walking away from all of us and moving to Mexico, not terribly different from the fair weather patriots who renounce their citizenship to save money on taxes. They are globalists who consider themselves something else first before they are Americans. Screw them. Screw them all.

    How about this: in addition to a tariff calculated to be triple the amount of their total calculated savings, any American company that moves it manufacturing overseas will no longer be eligible to bid on any federal contracts. No more fleet sales to the federal government for Ford if they do this.

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    • Paul Killinger says:

      What an EXCELLENT idea!

      And it will be relatively easy for us to get our state and local politicos to adopt “American Made” auto fleet purchase policies. Also a great way to make sure they’re they’re really thinking “America First!”

      And how about this… Why stop with vehicles? Let’s “encourage” them to go “America First” with everything they buy! (After all, we’re the ones actually PAYING for it all, aren’t we?)

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      • The ghost formerly known as Prince says:

        Trump’s overall idea is even better still: Quit making companies WANT to leave, and instead give them a reason to stay and grow and expand HERE.

        I think the whole notion of “penalizing” companies that leave is a throwaway, to neutralize the Hillary Clinton proposal.

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    • Ozzie says:

      The thing is if we banish these companies from America they will not go away they will learn to thrive. Adversity is opportunity! They have become hopeless with the climate here that is why they are leaving. We need to deal with the problems here like the unions. Unions were a necessary thing but, crime got in and now the democratic party/organized crime use it to destroy. Alot of other organizations also, Government is one huge one protecting the criminals.
      All we need is good people to stay quiet and still and this country will fall.
      Tree house is excellent in exposing and research on all of this. As a country we are going to have to move somehow someway in removing crime in high places if we want to survive.
      Trump has been a motivator, I hope when or if he gets in office he will motivate the great people of America to take this country back. We have the power we just need to use it.

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  23. Hillbilly4 says:

    When the Mexican laborers realize they too can demand wage increases, Ford’s move will seem silly. And, in fact, ALL of the GRINGOs moving to Mexico are to be warned: You will be living in one of the most ruthless societies on earth because of the Cartels. It will not be long before we hear of tragic kidnappings, shootings, extortions. Who wins? Not the USA. not Ford….the CARTELS win. All they can think is ‘happy hunting’. Chicago will seem like a safe haven.

    And, you may not agree with the sentiment but it will make a difference: Conservative Americans will not but Ford mini-cars made in Mexico. The next football commercial on TV promoting Ford will have EL TRI waving in the background…bet on it.

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    • CotlLending says:

      A lot of what you have said is fact. In my trade an American operation built a plant in rual Mexico and American workers there that I spoke to said it was a nightmare on so many levels. One example, payoffs so your household belongings don’t disappear while you’re at work.

      That is not meant to be an indictment on all Mexicans, but the fact is, the Mexican way of life is rife with bribery. It’s a caste system. Society. That is not likely to change with foreign investment. It’s in Mexico’s DNA as a country.

      Here’s the flip side to Fords global investment in Venezuela:

      http://www.wsj.com/articles/ford-to-take-800-million-pretax-charge-on-venezuela-operations-1422021412

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    • coltlending says:

      Correct.

      I’ve known people who have worked in Mexico for large American corporations with plants in rual provences of Mexico. Security for personal safety and payments so your home belongings don’t dissapear while you’re at work are not uncommon.

      This is not an indictment of individual people of Mexican heritage, but the fact is Mexico is a caste social and economic system, rife with bribery. That’s why so many native Indian Mexicans come here.

      Foreign investment by Ford or anyone else is not likely to change that. It’s in Mexico’s DNA as a country. Ford will have to pay-to-play there. Increasingly so, as they get more established.

      Here’s an example of the flip side of global in investment by Ford in Sean Penn’s utopia, Venezuela:

      http://www.wsj.com/articles/ford-to-take-800-million-pretax-charge-on-venezuela-operations-1422021412

      So if things go sideways socially or economically in Mexico….?

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  24. Jon612 says:

    800 jobs lost when they closed the Ranger plant in St. Paul. That does not include suppliers, rail employee’s or the bartenders that served them. This was part of Ford’s restructuring plan, known as “The Way Forward.” Sound familiar?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_Forward

    Ever wonder why Ford stopped production of the “E” series vans and replaced it with the Transit Connect? The Transit Connect is labeled as a passenger vehicle rather then light truck. Mercedes and Dodge Sprinter are passenger vehicles too. Imported light trucks have a 25% tariff, passenger vehicles do NOT. These vehicles are imported with windows, seats and seat belts. After they enter the country, they get stripped down and converted back to light trucks.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

    Read about the Subaru Brat. How long before F-150, Silverado, and Ram start placing seats and carpet in the bed of the truck? Or does TPP make it easier by eliminating the Chicken Tax?

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    • Paul Killinger says:

      You are exactly right about that…

      Primary manufacturing jobs account for 4-8 additional jobs downstream, depending upon the industry.

      So when Donald says a community has lost a quarter to a third of its manufacturing employment, the REAL job losses are a helluva lot worse than that.

      (Which, when spread across our entire economy, is also why so many of our fellow Americans now have the “PRIVILEGE” of working for a minimum wage.)

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  25. barton2016 says:

    Scumbag. Makes me want to quit my job at the F500 company I work for.

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  26. Dan Morgan says:

    Our company fleet (Ford) has reached the end of its useful service life, and we are about to replace 13 trucks, of various trim levels.
    We decided to go with the Toyota Tundra, because it is an excellent product, built in San Antonio Texas, by non union labor.
    We are a Texas company, and we operate under sound, conservative business principles. We also remember who built our business, our Texas and US customers, and no matter how far we expand internationally, we will never forget where we came from.
    Ford had the option to move production to non union, southern States, but chose instead to go to Mexico. Ford has forgotten where they came from.

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    • Texian says:

      Your decision to choose the Tundra is a noble one for Texans and Texas but it is just a band-aid compared to the larger issue. While it does provide a job for Texans it doesn’t stop the money flow out of the Country, draining America of its wealth. I would like to see a wealthy Texan start a new automotive brand built and produced in Texas. [On a lighter note, their Hummer style vehicle line could be called the “Alamo.” Their fast sports car could be the “San Jacinto.” Their heavy duty work trucks could be called the “Sabine” (i.e. alluding to the 2nd Battle of Sabine Pass). Their tiny two cylinder economy car could be called the “Santa Ana.”].

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      • Cute – love the new car names! BUT, the “money leaving the country” argument needs clarification. Wages, suppliers, secondary businesses (bars) and raw material costs mostly go to American companies. Only the profits (5-10%) go to the home country. That is what happens to American companies as well.
        True free markets – willing buyers, willing sellers – are good as long as govt stays out of it. Union agreements remove much of the freedom from the labor portion of a business. The less freedom, the less efficient a company will be. Econ 101. Q.E.D.

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  27. boutis says:

    Ford should have studied the fate of Volkswagen “Mexican” cars. Nobody wanted the shoddy, clanking, crooked doors things. Killed the Volks market in the US. Go ahead Ford. Build crappy little underpowered putt-putts.

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  28. sDee says:

    Excellent analysis!

    I spent over 30 years working for and with large international corporations. I was fortunate to have been brought in as a technical expert in many deals, mergers, etc.

    The minute I heard this guy talk in their announcement this week, it was clear he was put into Ford to distribute its assets. A globalist yes-man. A corporate pimp.

    There was a time in America when a weasel like Mark Fields would be instantly devoured if he entered the kind of shark tank Donald Trump thrives in.

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  29. Paul Killinger says:

    You guys n gals are SO all over this I would rate everyone a “+10” on the Like scale.

    I believe Ford is moving automaking operations to Mexico primarily because their competitors are and they don’t want to be left behind. With NAFTA in place they assume they can ship vehicles built there duty free Globally.

    But the TRUTH is they can’t, except to “stupid countries” like the USA. And this fallacy further fails to take into account that Mexico is a THIRD WORLD NATION in every sense of the term, which includes massive Govt corruption, extortion, Drug Lords, and kidnappings among a variety of other criminal enterprises.

    So I’m with you folks. Until OUR multi-national corporations wise up and become LOYAL to their existing CUSTOMERS, I’m done with Ford, Nabisco, Carrier and the lot of them making FOOLS of us!

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    • sDee says:

      I agree. Even though State Media has conflated the terms, there is a big difference between a multi-national company and a globalist company.

      One is capitalism, the other, global fascism.

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  30. Michael Hennessy says:

    Looks like we’ve been hornswaggled once again. Remember back in the good old days of bailing out Wall Street and and particularly the automakers, the cry buy Ford since they refused TARP money?

    Well it turns out they in fact received a total of $5.9 bil in TALF loans (one of those meaningless acronyms representing Obama’s “Investment in clean energy”) and upwards of $15 bil in additional loans which rescued them from the ledge.

    The $5.9 bil was to be repaid ” starting” last year and fully paid off by 2022 ( try to get those terms on your next car loan). The other loans, well do a Google search seeing how much they still owe and then do a “Where is Jimmy Hoffa buried?” search and see which produces mode info. Of course you could always right Crazy Uncle Joe’s TARP transparency office. I’m sure he’ll be forthcoming!

    And now the exit stage left in an Armored car convoy to produce a “Built MexicoTough!” Ford Focus the government lady you’re talking to at the Unemployment Office drives to work everyday!

    As my Dad used to say while pointing at himself, “Let Stooopid pay for it!”

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  31. Sandra says:

    Fields (at 4:50) wants “a level playing field when it comes to trade agreements”. Totally understandable. Then let’s fix THAT problem so we stop hemorrhaging jobs.

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  32. Truthfilter says:

    Lots of people want to blame unions for what has happened to our auto-manufacturing industry. Many states have had RTW laws for decades. Many southern states, in particular, have lower corporate taxes and offer other incentives for manufacturing/industry. An example is the Nissan plant in Canton, Mississippi. It employs over 6,000 people.

    Didnt Ford initially plan to build its new plant in Tennessee? There’s no good excuse for moving to Mexico. U.S. consumers have been loyal and good to Ford.

    We drive Ford trucks and bought stepdaughter a Ford Focus two years ago. We won’t be buying anything “Ford” in the future.

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  33. Tparty says:

    ” …. and unless you are skilled -or familiar- in detecting the nuance, much of the significant verbiage can be missed. Words and phrases matter.”

    Yes, I have always been a stickler on context and verbiage. Great job SD and keep up the good work. Looking forward to someone acquiring the full interview. There must be some real gold on the cutting room floor.

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  34. unseen1 says:

    the really funny thing is these CEO will be out of business when the socialists globalists take over and those socialists no longer have to raise money to run for elections. It is the foundational documents of the USA and the UK (western civilization) that allow capitalism to exist. Take away those and the communists win and all the CEO will be desinvested from their money. as the socialist leaders let lose the masses of hate like Lenin did to the Czar.

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  35. unseen1 says:

    The fact that China does not recognize IP should be a very big wake up call for globalist capitalists that their days are numbered if the globalists socialists wins

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  36. unseen1 says:

    The MBA in our colleges miss the big picture. Who the hell is going to buy their cheap products when all the jobs are moved overseas. We are already seeing this happen as the middle class turns to more and more credit. Do you think the mexico worker can afford a $30,000 car?
    Good luck with that. Higher wages while a drag on profits increases demand this recession/depression is demand driven. There is no demand because wages are too low and prices are too high. To fix the recession DEFLATION must occur with an increase in wages so that the demand part of the demand/supply graph is increased. The answer by the leaders has been cheap money to increase demand but that only works so long as people take on increasing amounts of debt until they can’t even make min payments and defaults occur. This happened in the housing bubble. It will happen in the college bubble, in the credit card bubble etc. They are all a feature of a lack of demand brought on by low wages and no jobs.

    profit margins have to fall wages have to go up and prices must reflect the new reality of an out of work america.

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  37. Paul Killinger says:

    [SD, this is one of the most informative and enjoyable post and comments I’ve read since I’ve been here. Thank you, sir.]

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  38. tempo150101 says:

    Ford could have waited eight weeks to announce this if they wanted to. But they chose to announce it during the election. The only reason for this has to be that they are sympathetic to Trump.

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    • Actually, Ford announced this a long time ago – maybe a year? Trump has been pounding on them ever since. They’ve issued press releases noting the huge amounts of money they invest in US production, but the major media just didn’t want to talk about it. Too complicated for the little snowflake reporterettes, I guess.
      And I totally agree, this has been an excellent discussion, enriched out with important, fact-filled personal experiences.

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  39. beelza says:

    We blue collar, union people in Detroit and Metro-Detroit know Ford is led by Globalist’s. They may equivocate all they like using phrases like ‘a global company,’ and ‘North America.’ But the people in SE MI, the major population center in MI, know the difference between a Globalist and a global company. We are further aware of Ford’s announcement deliberately timed with Trump in MI and see it as a rebuke of the average ‘line worker’ and a rebuke to America First. We Regan Democrats are back in MI and OH and we are voting Trump. DJT is all the talk in the lunchrooms, lunch counters, local bars and diners. MI goes Red.

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  40. Ozzie says:

    What has me thinking is, why would ford move knowing trump will put a 35% tariff on ford goods? They are investing in the future bigly on the assumption our condition will not change. Why is that?
    Why not put if off till after the election, it’s just a couple months? That to me is the elephant in the room question.

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    • tempo150101 says:

      Because they are secretly trying to help Trump. I don’t think Ford has trouble with NAFTA or global trade, but I think they are looking at the bigger picture. It would be nice to have a president and political leadership that is friendly to manufacturing instead of Wall Street for a change.

      They know what they are doing. They are getting him extra votes. Otherwise they would have waited until after the election.

      My cousin’s husband is an executive at a big lawn mower manufacturer. He is all in for Trump. He doesn’t want any special benefits for his company, but he doesn’t want the governments stupid policies to hobble the company either. Fair trade!

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  41. mossback says:

    We just bought a Ford and it will be the last one…….in a couple of years I’ll be buying a new pickup……..want one made in the USA…..but not a Government Motors vehicle…ie: GMC or Chrysler…….Toyota Tundras are built in San Antonio, Texas…….probably one of those.

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    • EDowd says:

      Sure I get your point, but remember Ford was the only US auto manufacturer that did NOT take a government bailout. Ford is fully aware of the strategy they have in play. Another point, go ahead and purchase that Tundra, that hard working Americans built and got paid well to do so….But don’t be fooled, the profits are not staying in the US. Those profits are going back to Japan. Just like the VW plant in TN. There are plenty of others, Acura in OH, Subaru in IN, BMW in SC. Having said all that, the MOST american made car is only roughly 65% manufactured in the US. These are all global companies and these practices of cross border assembly, etc won’t change any time soon.

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  42. Bendix says:

    Investment no longer means what it used to mean. I’m not exactly sure what it does mean now, but I think it’s something similar to “colonization”.
    Someone should ask Hillary why, with all the jobs leaving for Mexico as a result of her husband’s policies, she still finds it necessary to reassure children of illegal aliens that their parents won’t be sent back to big, bad Mexico on her watch. Mexico isn’t even a Third World country anymore. Nice of us to up and take their excess population so their economy will get the biggest boost from all this new “investment”. Will unemployed Americans be allowed to cross the border to take those jobs?

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    • Concerned says:

      Excellent points. It’s infuriating. Why doesn’t anyone in the media ask Clinton how the influx of illegals and so-called refugees help US citizens?

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  43. Ford jobs in Mexico at 2,800 come to one-tenth the Ford jobs in the US, at 28,000, if facts used in the video and SD’s article are accurate. So, that is not ALL the jobs.

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  44. Scott says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the labor savings are more than 40%. What’s disgusting about Ford is that they don’t pass a penny of the savings along to the consumer. To give one example: the Fiesta car line has been made in Mexico for years. Yet the Fiesta is a fully priced automobile, with no discernible discount versus the Focus, which has a few more options and is made (for now) in Michigan. And one other thing about the Focus. I dare Ford to make the new high end RS in Mexico. It’s now made in Germany but you know Ford wants to make it in Mexico. If they do their sales will tank!

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  45. The Recent Republican says:

    Can we keep the jobs and send this tieless twit to Mexico instead?

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  46. Screwtape says:

    If the US had sane corporate tax laws this type of thing wouldn’t happen. I understand Trump wants to reform the corporate tax code but will he have enough support from the Hill to do anything meaningful?

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