Senator Rand Paul Discusses Potential For Clinton Indictment Based on WikiLeaks Claim…

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has stated his organization believes they are in possession of emails which prove Hillary Clinton was aware of the transfer of weapons from Libya, through Turkey, into Syria.

If Assange is accurate, the prior congressional testimony of Clinton becomes another example of her deception and fraud. Rand Paul discusses at the end of this interview segment:

To understand the scope of the potential behind the WikiLeaks Assange information, it’s critical to understand the facts in/around Libya and Syria in 2011, 2012 through today.  The specifics are outlined in the updated Benghazi Brief.

The “Benghazi Brief” remains the most controversial research report we have ever produced. The brief contains over two years of research and hundreds of very specific factual citations supporting it.  Almost two years later, and not a single aspect outlined within the brief has ever been identified as inaccurate.


We know from the Bret Baier interview with Hillary Clinton that she was physically located at her 7th floor office in Washington DC on the night of the attack 9/11/12.

Unfortunately we also know during the November 2012 Thanksgiving holiday a mysterious fire took place in that building. Well, actually directly above her exact office – cause undetermined.

A “fire” which preceded an unfortunate slip and fall for the Secretary, resulting in a concussion, which led to the discovery of a blood clot, that ultimately delayed her congressional testimony before a Senate Hearing into the events of the night in question.

We know the Libyan uprising began on February 10th of 2011, and we also know that sometime around the end of February 2011 President Obama signed a presidential directive authorizing the State Dept and CIA to begin a covert operation to arm the Libyan “rebels”.

We also know of a Second Presidential Finding Memo authorizing additional CIA covert action in 2012, this time in Syria. However, unlike the 2011 Libyan operation we do not know the operational name of the second action in 2012 (Syria).

We know the Libyan “rebels” were positioned in two strategic places. Benghazi, and the port city of Darnah, both located in Northeastern Libya.

We know this 2011 Libyan covert operation came to be known as “Operation Zero Footprint“.  We know Secretary Clinton and CIA head Panetta were the primary sponsors for the joint State Dept./CIA approach; and we know that specifically because of a U.N. Security Council resolution (unattended by Ambassador Susan Rice) the operation fell under the military command authority of NATO not (important to repeat), NOT, the U.S. Military.

We know by the time operation “Zero Footprint” began, AFRICOM commander General Carter Ham was removed from OPSEC oversight in the Libyan campaign and NATO commander Admiral James G. Stavridis was in charge.

Stavridis was the Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) at the time of the Libyan uprising. He retired as SACEUR in 2013

In 2011, 57-year-old Stavridis was the perfect pick for NATO Libyan intervention considering he is the son of Turkish immigrants. Turkey played a key role in what might be the most politically dangerous aspect of the events to the White House once the goals changed to redirection of the weapons from Operation Zero Footprint.

We know Operation Zero Footprint was the covert transfer of weapons from the U.S to the Libyan “rebels”. We also know the operation avoided the concerns with congressional funding, and potential for public scrutiny, through financing by the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

We also know that officials within the government of Qatar served as the intermediaries for the actual transfer of the weapons, thereby removing the footprint of the U.S. intervention.

We know the entire operation was coordinated and controlled by the State Department and CIA. We also know (from the Senate Foreign Relations Benghazi hearings) that “Zero Footprint” was unknown to the 2011 Pentagon and/or DoD commanders who would have been tasked with any military response to the 9/11/12 attack – namely AFRICOM General Carter Ham.

However, it would be implausible to think that then Defense Secretary Bob Gates or Joint Chiefs Chair Admiral McMullen were completely unaware of the operation.  Even today, despite the numerous hearings and reports, this aspect remains murky.

Both Defense Secretary Gates and Joint Chiefs Chair McMullen were in place when Operation Zero Footprint began.  However, both retired from their jobs in Sept of 2011, and were replaced by Leon Panetta and Martin Dempsey respectively.

Leon Panetta was CIA Director at the beginning of Operation Zero Footprint (March 2011) and was replaced by CIA Director David Petraeus in the fall of 2011 as Panetta replaced Bob Gates and became Secretary of Defense.

However, Panetta (now as Def Sec) and JC Martin Dempsey were the two who initially briefed President Obama on the night of Sept 11th 2012.  This is an important fact to remember – because of his previous CIA role in constructing Zero Footprint, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta definitely had knowledge of the intents of the joint State Dept/CIA mission in Benghazi, Martin Dempsey may not have.

We know the White House appears to have followed “The Intelligence Oversight Act of 1980” in informing the congressional “Gang of Eight” of Zero Footprint.

The Gang of Eight in 2011 would have included: Speaker – John Boehner, Minority Leader – Nancy Pelosi; House Permanent Select Committee on Intel Chairman – Mike Rogers, and his Democrat counterpart Charles Ruppersberger; Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid; along with Senate Intel Chair Diane Feinstein and her Republican counterpart, Saxby Chambliss.

From Hillary interviews we also know the White House liaison for Secretary Clinton and CIA Director Leon Panetta during Operation Zero Footprint was National Security Advisor To the President, Tom Donilon.

With this information we can assemble a cast of people “IN THE KNOW” of Operation Zero Footprint on two specific date blocks. March 2011 through Pre 9/11/12 attack – and – Post 9/11/12 attack forward.

March 2011 through Pre 9/11/12 attack: Who knew of Operation “Zero Footprint”?:

        • President Obama and Vice President Biden (both Dems)
        • Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (Dem)
        • CIA Director Leon Panetta (March 2011 – June 2011)
        • *CIA Director General David Petraeus (?) (Sept 2011 – Nov 2012)
        • NATO Commander, James G Stavridis
        • White House National Security Advisor Tom Donilon (Dem)
        • White House National Security Spox Tommy Vietor (Donilon aide)
        • White House National Security Advisor John Brennan (Dem)
        • Speaker of the House John Boehner (Rep)
        • Minority Leader – Nancy Pelosi (Dem)
        • House Permanent Select Committee on Intel Chairman – Mike Rogers (Rep)
        • Minority House Intel Committee – Charles Ruppersberger (Dem)
        • Senate Minority Leader – Mitch McConnell (Rep)
        • Senate Majority Leader – Harry Reid (Dem)
        • Senate Intel Chair – Diane Feinstein (Dem)
        • Minority Senate Intel Committee – Saxby Chambliss (Rep)
        • [State Dept] U.S. Libyan Ambassador – Chris Stevens
        • [State Dept] U.S. Asst Secretary of State – Andrew Shapiro
        • [State Dept] Senior Head of U.S. Weapons Office – Mark Adams

Along with whomever inside each nation’s state government that was involved in either the finance (UAE), or the logistics (Qatar). [and later, 2012 Turkey]

Obviously the “know” crowd would include the ultimate end destination users, “The Libyan Rebel Commanders”:

        • Rebel Leader (Islamic Fighting Group) Abu Sufian Ibriham Ahmed Hamuda Bin Qumu – Darnah Brigade – Ansar Al Sharia
        • Rebel Leader (Islamic Fighting Group) Abu Khattala – Commander of an Islamist militia group called the Abu Obaida bin Jarrah Brigade (17th Feb Brigade) Benghazi – Ansar Al Sharia

*NOTE* Both of these individuals were labeled as officially recognized State Dept. terrorists in December of 2013. Khattala recently having been arrested.


In addition, the “political face” of the Libyan Transitional Government Justice Minister Mustafa Abdel Jalil, should also be included in this list of people who knew of operation Zero Footprint while it was underway.

Justice Abdel Jalil served as the international face of, and spokesperson for, “the rebels” in 2011/12. He worked closely with Chris Stevens and highly visibly with Secretary Hillary Clinton – However, in my opinion – after extensive research- Jalil was a total patsy. He was paid well to present a comfortable face of the movement, but once Gaddaffi was killed Jalil was quickly dispatched.

This Brings us to who knew about “Operation Zero Footprint” post Benghazi 9/11/12 attack:

To wit you can easily add:

        • CIA Director General David Petraeus
        • Adjunct, and Interim, CIA Director – Mike Morrell
        • U.S. Attorney General – Eric Holder
        • President Obama Advisor and now Chief of Staff – Denis McDonough
        • President Obama Advisor and now Treasury Sec – Jack Lew
        • President Obama Advisor and now National Security Advisor – Tony Blinkin
        • Former UN Ambassador and now Senior Nat Sec Advisor – Susan Rice
        • Chief White House Communications Director – Ben Rhodes

Focusing on the post 9/11/12 team for a moment:

This photo was taken at 1:28am Benghazi time. [7:28pm DC] Following a one hour phone call between POTUS, V-Potus, and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

This photo was taken on 9/11/12 at 1:28am Benghazi time. [7:28pm DC] Following a one hour phone call between POTUS, V-Potus, and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Jack Lew (far right) was Obama’s Chief of Staff. Donilon and McDonough had just left Tommy Vietor in the situation room to update POTUS in the Oval Office. POTUS and VPOTUS had just hung up the phone.

We know McDonough and Donilon were in the immediate loop on the night of 9/11/12 because they were photographed updating President Obama at 7:30pm in the Oval Office along with a curious Jack Lew who was Chief of Staff at the time.

In addition we know from former White House National Security spokesperson Tommy “dude” Vietor, that President Obama was not in the situation room where Vietor and his boss Tom Donilon were keeping up on events.

Here’s where it gets interesting:

Leon Panetta was the CIA Director when Operation Zero Footprint was authorized and began, but he left the CIA about 4 months later (June 30th, 2011) and was replaced by General David Petraeus (August/Sept 2011).

[*Note* it is important to remember when the 2nd authorized CIA program began in 2012 for Syria Petraeus would have been included]

Under this principle you can see that General Petraeus had ZERO liability for the origin of the Benghazi weapons deals – it was a joint State Dept/CIA program already being conducted when Petraeus arrived. If it blew up, it was not his political problem – THIS MADE PETRAEUS A RISK.

We know that during the summer of 2012 “a whistleblower” popped up and gave House Republican Leader Eric Cantor a tip about CIA Director General Petraeus being in an extramarital affair with a reporter named Paula Broadwell; along with rumors Petraeus may have shared classified information with Broadwell during pillow talk etc.

We also know that Eric Cantor told AG Eric Holder and FBI director Robert Mueller about the claim and Mueller began an investigation of Petraeus in the Summer of 2012 before the Benghazi attack in September.

However, we also know that neither Holder nor Mueller (nor Cantor) informed anyone in congress this investigation of Petraeus was taking place. That investigation included Broadwell turning over her computer to the FBI in the same summer, and later a search of her home which did reveal confidential information supposedly leaked from Petraeus.

Sometime in October of 2012 Director of National Intelligence James Clapper had a conversation with Petraeus urging him to leave.

Immediately after the election of 2012 CIA Director David Petraeus resigned (Nov 9th) and interim CIA Director Mike Morrel took over. This is why Petraeus never testified to the Senate, and Morrel took his place.

General David Petraeus and Paula BroadwellLeon-Panetta-and-Michael-Morell-via-the-Secretary-of-Defense-Public-Domain

We also know this timely switch was beneficial to both the Clinton and Obama camps because Morrel was more politically connected to them than Petraeus.

Given the risks of exposure to both “Operation Zero Footprint”, and worse, the buy-back/redirection to Syria, it’s understandable the risk to Clinton that Petraeus carried. However, Petraeus was not of any risk himself; maybe Leon Panetta would be, but not Petraeus – who, it’s important to add, came from the Defense Department to the office of CIA.

Petraeus’s replacement, interim CIA Director Mike Morrel, and White House Communications Director Ben Rhodes, were the two men who constructed the infamous “Susan Rice” talking points.

After Morrel testified to congress about the CIA involvement around Benghazi, and the issues of terrorism vs. Islamic movie (happy squirrel chase) etc. Morrel was replaced at the CIA by John Brennan.

We know that both Hillary Clinton and CBS immediately hired Mike Morrel. CBS News President David Rhodes -who hired Morrel- is the brother of the White House’s Ben Rhodes; who Morrel coordinated the Clinton friendly, albeit controversial, talking points with.

While it may seem suspect to jump to conclusions, the fact that Eric Holder did not inform either Intelligence Committee of the FBI Petraeus investigation -which is generally standard procedure- lends plausible suspicion to an outline that the events were used as leverage to remove Petraeus; and all of the subsequent risk he represented.

If you accept that Petraeus’s knowledge of, but non-involvement in, “Operation Zero Footprint” represented a potential risk to Hillary and Obama; you’d have to admit that Mike Morrel was by far the more White House friendly person talking about the CIA involvement around the joint State Dept/CIA Benghazi objectives.

Also, it would be disingenuous to ignore the fact Morrel’s loyalty therein was rewarded financially.

Lastly, one of the more slippery people to pin down on the Benghazi attack, and subsequent issues, has been Leon Panetta. If you think about Panetta’s role in the origin of Operation Zero Footprint his comment avoidance makes perfect sense.

Trey Gowdy needs to subpoena Panetta for the Special Committee.

OK, sorry that was more than a moment – but was needed.

Now back to Libya 2011/2012 and the Rift Between State/CIA and DoD/Pentagon over the arming of the “Rebels”. THIS IS REALLY QUITE IMPORTANT because it explains how far out Hillary Clinton had put herself in this covert op “Zero Footprint”.

Duty - by Robert Gates

A few reminder articles will outline and refresh why the White House kept DoD and The Pentagon at arms length throughout their covert operation:

[…] defense leaders in Washington [March 2011] slammed the brakes on the extent of US help to the rebels. Top officials said that some country other than the US should perform any future training and equipping of the Libyan opposition groups. Under withering congressional probing and criticism of what was described as an ill-defined mission to aid a rebel force that officials know little about, Robert Gates, the US defense secretary, sketched out a largely limited role for the US military going forward.

Gates and Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told members of the House Armed Services panel that many other countries have the ability to train and support the rebels. “My view would be, if there is going to be that kind of assistance to the opposition, there are plenty of sources for it other than the United States,” said Gates. “Somebody else should do that.” Gates and Mullen told Congress that future US participation will be limited and will not involve an active role in airstrikes as time goes on. (link)

From a New York Times article about the same hearing -AND- the discussion of the CIA involvement. Again, remember this is 2011 – you have Secretary Gates, Joint Chiefs Mullen, and CIA Director Panetta:

2011 […] Gates and Mullen were testifying before the House and Senate Armed Services Committees in the wake of revelations that small teams of CIA operatives are working in Libya. Gates declined to comment on the CIA activities in Libya. US officials have acknowledged that the CIA has sent small teams of operatives into Libya and helped rescue a crew member of a US fighter jet that crashed.

The CIA’s precise role in Libya is not clear. Intelligence experts said the CIA would have sent officials to make contact with the opposition and assess the strength and needs of the rebel forces in the event Barack Obama, the US president, decided to arm them. (link)

In hindsight we are now fully aware that unknown to both Mullen and Gates -at the time they were speaking- was President Obama having authorized Operation Zero Footprint several weeks earlier, and Panetta carrying it out.

The State Dept (Hillary) and CIA (Panetta) were now in the execution mode of the covert op.

We now know against the March/April 2011 backdrop of growing information about al-Qaeda’s presence within the rebel units – there was a genuine difference of opinion on whether even getting involved was a good idea.

The Defense Department (Gates, Mullen) was saying no, the State Department (Clinton, Rice), was saying yes.

Remember too, this covert operation was going to require NATO Admiral James Stavridis to allow the weapons into Libya. So lets look at what he was quoted saying around the same timeframe as Mullen and Gates, *knowing Stavridis was one of the actual key figures to make the weapons delivery possible*:

2011 – […] Now, as the White House and NATO continue to debate the possible ramifications of arming the Libyan opposition, the Haqqani network-linked Afghan commander says Libyan al Qaeda affiliates seem to be more “enthusiastic” about the war against Gaddafi every day.

And from what the Afghan Taliban commander has seen, there appears to be more than “flickersof al Qaeda’s presence in Libya, the description given by NATO commander Admiral James Stavridis. (link)

There is Stavridis playing down the possibility of al-Qaeda ideology within the make-up of the Islamic Fighting Group – which is important because by the time this quote was attributed Stavridis was already part of the team coordinating the shipments.

Samantha Power - Susan Rice - President Obama

Also, remember R2P? This March/April 2011 time frame is when “Responsibility To Protect” came up as a justification for our engagement. Samantha Power, Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton all wanting to fully support “the rebels”.

Ultimately Obama/Jarrett (The White House) agreed with Hillary Inc (State Dept); hence “Zero Footprint” got the nod – well, let’s be really accurate: it “sort of” got the nod.

Think about it. President Obama authorized arming the Libyan rebels, but the covert nature of Zero Footprint actually reflects the political filter through which all Obama White House decisions are made. A White House team that always looks for an escape hatch in case any decision is ever publicly wrong.

If the rebels were al-Qaeda, the covert op lends plausible deniability.

Isn’t it strange how in 2014 hindsight you can clearly see exactly what we now know as the “Benghazi narrative”; the use of their exact escape hatch because they were al-Qaeda, and it did go horribly and publicly wrong.

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Operation Zero Footprint Becomes Political and Legal Risk

It should be noted, and actually emphasized, that Operation Zero Footprint, at least in 2011, was not illegal. Indeed, all indicators are that President Obama followed his constitutional responsibility as he carried out his executive authority.

We know in late February 2011 President Obama signed a Presidential Finding Memo authorizing the State Department and CIA to engage in actions within Libya to identify a course of action.

We know in March 2011 when Hillary Clinton (State Dept) and Leon Panetta (CIA) constructed “Operation Zero Footprint” that President Obama approved the covert action and then informed the Gang of Eight of the weapons transfer operation.

Both of those known facts speak well to the Executive Office following a legally outlined process. This does not, however, dismiss the concern, which became the reality, that the action itself was terribly flawed and horridly imprudent.

During March, April and May 2011 there was enough intelligence information flowing to the White House informing them of exactly who would be the beneficiaries of U.S. Libyan involvement and specifically providing weapons. It did not take long to identify the Benghazi and Darnah “rebels” were actually affiliates of al-Qaeda.

While no-one reporting in 2011 was aware of Operation Zero Footprint, there were literally hundreds of media reports showcasing the ideology of the Libyan “rebel” uprising. Indeed there were numerous reports in mainstream media outlets of al-Qaeda fighters (numerous factions) flowing to Libya to oust their life-long nemesis, Gaddaffi.

From a policy standpoint it will have to be left up to historians to pore over the facts and ultimately decide what was *this* White House goal in the entire region.

      • Ben Ali removal -Tunisia- seemed OK to the administration, Obama and Clinton.
      • Hosni Mubarak removal -Egypt- seemed even more ok to Obama and Clinton.

Both of the above were viewed as potential sources for favorable policy outcomes. Indeed the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt -and election of President Morsi- did not seem to be a concern for the White House.

However, when you get to Gaddaffi’s removal -Libya- you see a serious split between ideologies within the U.S. political class as Obama/Clinton actually pushed the outcome. The U.S. defense department saying they were apprehensive about this outcome, and Obama/Clinton going “all in” for Gaddaffi ouster with French President Sarkozy.

The same interventionist Obama/Clinton motivation was evident with Syria’s Assad as yet another uprising surfaced in yet another Mid-East nation – again in March/April 2011.

We know on October 20th 2011 Libyan Leader Muammar Gaddaffi was finally captured, then killed by “the rebels”.

Gaddafi being shotDead-Gaddafi

From the standpoint of “regime change” operation Zero Footprint was a success.

The Libyan Transitional National Council was now in control. Well, maybe in charge, or, well, sort of.

The TNC (pictured below 4 days later) may have been the face of Libya the Obama/Clinton team wanted to portray. But they were merely just that, a face.

Abdel Jalil and the Libyan National Transitional Council

We know Eastern Libya was then (2011), and is now (2016), a hotbed of radical Islam controlled by the Libyan Islamic Fighting Groups, the very people who benefited from the arms that were part of Zero Footprint.

We know by the Fall/Winter of 2011 the U.S. State Dept and CIA were joined and trying to re-secure the same weapons they provided in the Spring/Summer.

December 2011 – New York Times:

“Assistant Secretary of State Andrew J. Shapiro raised the American desire to arrange a purchase program in a meeting this month with Libya’s new defense minister, according to American officials familiar with the proposal.

The United States has committed $40 million to secure Libya’s arms stockpiles, much of it to prevent the spread of Manpads. No budget has been designed for a purchase program, and the price to be paid for each missile and its components has not been determined, the official said. (link)

We know from a speech delivered by Asst. Secretary of State Shapiro in Feb of 2012 the actual program to recapture the Zero Footprint weapons began in August of 2011 about two months before Gaddaffi was killed:

“Once the stalemate broke and the fighting rapidly shifted in the TNC’s [Libyan Transitional National Council] favor in August, we immediately deployed a State Department expert from the MANPADS Task Force to Benghazi.

Mark Adams, who you will hear from shortly on the panel, is the head of our MANPADS Task Force and spent considerable time on the ground in Libya.

[… ] The initial primary objective was to reach an agreement with the TNC to set up a MANPADS control and destruction program that would enable us to set up what we call our Phase I efforts.

Phase I entailed an effort to rapidly survey, secure, and disable loose MANPADS across the country. To accomplish this, we immediately deployed our Quick Reaction Force, which are teams made up of civilian technical specialists.”

We know those “civilian technical specialists”, being talked about in August 2011, were contractors, CIA contractors, hired by the State Department to recapture the weapons – some of which they provided as a specific consequence of Operation Zero Footprint.

If the story ended there it would be bad enough. A flawed policy, a secret mission arm the Libyan “rebels” without a great deal of thinking through the longer term consequences. A flawed policy with political consequences.

But when you think about the larger picture you understand why the details of the covert weapons operation Zero Footprint were so tightly guarded among select members of Congress (the Gang of Eight), the CIA (Panetta), the State Department (Clinton) and the White House (Donilon).

Each of them was trying to manage a covert operation that would expose a U.S. policy decision to arm al-Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamist militias.

But that’s only “IF” the story ended there, in Libya, at the end of 2011 into the beginning of 2012. It didn’t, the decisions got worse – much worse.

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The uprising in Syria was only a few months behind the uprising in Libya. Arguably if the timing were reversed you could ponder that Assad would have met Gaddaffi’s fate, and Gaddaffi would be as alive today as President Assad.

Whichever rebel group got the attention of the R2P crowd was sure to be the first to get assistance. The Obama R2P Doctrine is so tenuous, and so lacking in political principle, it’s subject to change based on the political whims of capitol hill at any given moment.

The Libyan “rebels” got all the weaponry love – the Syrian “rebels”, not-so-much. At least in 2011; by mid 2012 that sentiment appears to have changed.

Enter Hillary Clinton. As she reiterated vehemently to Greta Van Sustern during a recent interview, it was Hillary who wanted to help the Syrian rebels when no-one else wanted to assist them. Secretary Hillary Clinton wanted early and direct interventionist action in Syria to topple Assad just like Gaddaffi.

Obviously consequences from the first covert weapons mission in Libya made a stark case for not repeating it in Syria. Another huge factor against helping the FSA was Israel. Ultimately Israel could not afford to be put into such a risky position if Syrian rebel forces were given arms that ultimately might be used against them.

Additionally, you would think there’s no way congress, in an election year, would approve of funding Syrian rebels against the possibility of it hurting Israel; And the White House was not about to do a known and official covert operation which had a great potential to go sideways, and become far too politically dangerous. 2012 was an election year.

But they did.

Who wanted to aid Syria more? President Obama or Hillary Clinton? That is a question for later year historians. Regardless of how the idea came up, we know a decision was made to do it, and to do it covertly.

Arming the Benghazi Darnah rebels was, well, stupid. It was actually stupid, and politically stupid, but it was not illegal.

Arming jihadist fighters in Syria likewise ended up being stupid but by all appearances NOT illegal.


In August 2012, one month before the attack on the Benghazi Compound, the following Reuters article appeared. This is how we find out about the SECOND presidential finding memo which again authorized covert CIA involvement, this time in Syria:

WASHINGTON, Aug 1 [2012] (Reuters) – President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing U.S. support for rebels seeking to depose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his government, U.S. sources familiar with the matter said.

Obama’s order, approved earlier this year and known as an intelligence “finding,” broadly permits the CIA and other U.S. agencies to provide support that could help the rebels oust Assad.

This and other developments signal a shift toward growing, albeit still circumscribed, support for Assad’s armed opponents – a shift that intensified following last month’s failure of the U.N. Security Council to agree on tougher sanctions against the Damascus government.

The White House is for now apparently stopping short of giving the rebels lethal weapons, even as some U.S. allies do just that.

But U.S. and European officials have said that there have been noticeable improvements in the coherence and effectiveness of Syrian rebel groups in the past few weeks. That represents a significant change in assessments of the rebels by Western officials, who previously characterized Assad’s opponents as a disorganized, almost chaotic, rabble.

Precisely when Obama signed the secret intelligence authorization, an action not previously reported, could not be determined.

The full extent of clandestine support that agencies like the CIA might be providing also is unclear.

White House spokesman Tommy Vietor declined comment.


A U.S. government source acknowledged that under provisions of the presidential finding, the United States was collaborating with a secret command center operated by Turkey and its allies.

Last week, Reuters reported that, along with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Turkey had established a secret base near the Syrian border to help direct vital military and communications support to Assad’s opponents.

This “nerve center” is in Adana, a city in southern Turkey about 60 miles (100 km) from the Syrian border, which is also home to Incirlik, a U.S. air base where U.S. military and intelligence agencies maintain a substantial presence.

Turkey’s moderate Islamist government has been demanding Assad’s departure with growing vehemence. Turkish authorities are said by current and former U.S. government officials to be increasingly involved in providing Syrian rebels with training and possibly equipment.

European government sources said wealthy families in Saudi Arabia and Qatar were providing significant financing to the rebels. Senior officials of the Saudi and Qatari governments have publicly called for Assad’s departure.

On Tuesday, NBC News reported that the Free Syrian Army had obtained nearly two dozen surface-to-air missiles, weapons that could be used against Assad’s helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft. Syrian government armed forces have employed such air power more extensively in recent days.

NBC said the shoulder-fired missiles, also known as MANPADs, had been delivered to the rebels via Turkey.

On Wednesday, however, Bassam al-Dada, a political adviser to the Free Syrian Army, denied the NBC report, telling the Arabic-language TV network Al-Arabiya that the group had “not obtained any such weapons at all.” U.S. government sources said they could not confirm the MANPADs deliveries, but could not rule them out either.

Current and former U.S. and European officials previously said that weapons supplies, which were being organized and financed by Qatar and Saudi Arabia, were largely limited to guns and a limited number of anti-tank weapons, such as bazookas.

Indications are that U.S. agencies have not been involved in providing weapons to Assad’s opponents. In order to do so, Obama would have to approve a supplement, known as a “memorandum of notification, to his initial broad intelligence finding.

Further such memoranda would have to be signed by Obama to authorize other specific clandestine operations to support Syrian rebels.

Reuters first reported last week that the White House had crafted a directive authorizing greater U.S. covert assistance to Syrian rebels. It was unclear at that time whether Obama had signed it. (read more)

Note how the FSA says they didn’t get missiles, and yet missiles were shipped. This is important against the backdrop of the reality the extreme elements we now call ISIS were operating in Syria and openly laughing at our inability to identify them:

“NO ISLAM WITHOUT JIHAD” – members of the Free Syrian Army. Abu Khuder and his men fight for al-Qaida. They call themselves the ghuraba’a, or “strangers”, after a famous jihadi poem celebrating Osama bin Laden’s time with his followers in the Afghan mountains, and they are one of a number of jihadi organisations establishing a foothold in the east of the country now that the conflict in Syria has stretched well into its second bloody year.
They try to hide their presence. “Some people are worried about carrying the [black] flags,” said Abu Khuder. “They fear America will come and fight us. So we fight in secret. Why give Bashar and the west a pretext?” But their existence is common knowledge in Mohassen. Even passers-by joke with the men about car bombs and IEDs.

(JULY 2012) As they stood outside the commandeered government building in the town of Mohassen, it was hard to distinguish Abu Khuder’s men from any other brigade in the Syrian civil war, in their combat fatigues, T-shirts and beards.

But these were not average members of the Free Syrian Army. Abu Khuder and his men fight for al-Qaida. They call themselves the ghuraba’a, or “strangers”, after a famous jihadi poem celebrating Osama bin Laden’s time with his followers in the Afghan mountains, and they are one of a number of jihadi organisations establishing a foothold in the east of the country now that the conflict in Syria has stretched well into its second bloody year.

They try to hide their presence. “Some people are worried about carrying the [black] flags,” said Abu Khuder. “They fear America will come and fight us. So we fight in secret. Why give Bashar and the west a pretext?” But their existence is common knowledge in Mohassen. Even passers-by joke with the men about car bombs and IEDs.

According to Abu Khuder, his men are working closely with the military council that commands the Free Syrian Army brigades in the region. “We meet almost every day,” he said. “We have clear instructions from our [al-Qaida] leadership that if the FSA need our help we should give it. We help them with IEDs and car bombs. Our main talent is in the bombing operations.” Abu Khuder’s men had a lot of experience in bomb-making from Iraq and elsewhere, he added.

[…] Abu Khuder split with the FSA and pledged allegiance to al-Qaida’s organisation in Syria, the Jabhat al Nusra or Solidarity Front. He let his beard grow and adopted the religious rhetoric of a jihadi, becoming a commander of one their battalions.

“The Free Syrian Army has no rules and no military or religious order. Everything happens chaotically,” he said. “Al-Qaida has a law that no one, not even the emir, can break.

The FSA lacks the ability to plan and lacks military experience. That is what [al-Qaida] can bring. They have an organisation that all countries have acknowledged.

In the beginning there were very few. Now, mashallah, there are immigrants joining us and bringing their experience,” he told the gathered people. “Men from Yemen, Saudi, Iraq and Jordan. Yemenis are the best in their religion and discipline and the Iraqis are the worst in everything – even in religion.”

At this, one man in the room – an activist in his mid-30s who did not want to be named – said: “So what are you trying to do, Abu Khuder? Are you going to start cutting off hands and make us like Saudi? Is this why we are fighting a revolution?”

“[Al-Qaida’s] goal is establishing an Islamic state and not a Syrian state,” he replied. “Those who fear the organisation fear the implementation of Allah’s jurisdiction. If you don’t commit sins there is nothing to fear.” (link – more)

Against the backdrop of ISIL 2014 does this Sound familiar ?

It should also be noted this is the exact time (August 2012) when the U.N. and Kofi Annan gave up trying to influence a peaceful outcome in Syria – things had escalated beyond any hope for a diplomatic resolution.

We know the basic set up to arm the Syrian rebellion was generally not too complex.

Turkey would be used as the distribution hub, and the U.S. had Sunni friends in Saudi Arabia, and Qatar -who were more than willing to see Assad removed- and financially assist in arming the Syrians without too great a concern for what could happen to Israel.

For Obama/Clinton to get weapons to the Syrians, against the shadow of Operation Zero Footprint, without going extensively through congress, could be done covertly and easily. Either ship weapons just like Operation Zero Footprint, Saudi ==> Qatar ==> Turkey ==> Syria, OR, buy back the weapons already floating around from Operation Zero Footprint and redirect them to Syria through Turkey.

OR both.

The Saudis would be a willing financier if the State Dept needed additional money to facilitate the transfers.

We know Ambassador Chris Stevens set up a formal U.S. Embassy consulate in Tripoli around May 26th of 2012; and we know the State Dept and CIA set up their joint operations in Benghazi around the same time. We also now know this is around the EXACT time of the second Presidential CIA Directive.

Looking at the historical timeline, and knowing the contacts developed, gives a great perspective into what would have spurred the CIA/State Department to set up a more expansive presence and operation in the coastal region of Eastern Libya May/June 2012.

The official U.S. State Dept Libyan presence was vacated on Feb 25th of 2011 when the embassy personnel were evacuated. Stevens was re-establishing the diplomatic office and acting as Ambassador to Libya during the 2012 reconstruction phase.

What we did not know at the time was that Chris Stevens was also acting as the facilitator for U.S. arms shipments OUT OF LIBYA, through Turkish diplomatic couriers and into Syria. While coordinating a second covert action to arm the Syrian resistance.

A very strong argument can easily be made that Chris Stevens was a CIA operative inside the State Department. Many people within the State Department are CIA personnel using the State Dept as part of their visible cover.

In Eastern Libya June, July, August 2012 – Obviously the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, Ansar Al Sharia, aka 17th Feb Brigade, and all of their commanders knew of the U.S. Benghazi weapons programs. Both the 2011 distribution, and the 2012 repurchase.

Considering the redeployment to Syria – for the most part the Benghazi and Darnah brigades would have been in alignment with their Jihadist brethren in Syria being the beneficiaries of any additional shipments.

But there was in 2011/2012 – as noted in the above articles – an ideological rift between the newly emboldened Muslim Brotherhood and the ‘more initially moderate’ Free Syrian Army (FSA). As the Libyan conflict rolled on through the summer of 2011 more al-Qaeda elements flocked from other engagements into the Syrian fight. Moderates were replaced by extremists.

By the time of the second presidential directive, as Hillary and Chris Stevens were working on support for Syria, Summer 2012, the radical Syrian opposition was embedded inside the FSA. Arguably in hindsight they were the majority element.

The Syrian opposition had three al-Qaida arms operating within it. Including one that also operated in Libya:

      • Jund al-Sham, which is made up of al-Qaida militants who are Syrian, Palestinian and Lebanese;
      • Jund al-Islam, which in recent years merged with Ansar al-Islam, an extremist group of Sunni Iraqis operating under the al-Qaida banner and operating in Yemen and Libya;
      • Jund Ansar al-Allah, an al-Qaida group based in Gaza linked to Palestinian camps in Lebanon and Syria.

It would be into this eclectic mix of Jihadist ideologues, which later became ISIL, that any diverted U.S. arms would flow. It’s no wonder that Senator John McCain was so confused when he was calling them “moderates” in 2012/2013. Almost no-one knew the severe elements in Syria would rise to the surface and become the modern ISIS now capturing all of the global attention.

ISIS John McCain - Abu Mosa

al-Qaeda with flags

And…. If you just realized…. Yes, ISIS or ISIL currently on the march in Iraq, came from Syria, fought in Syria and more than likely was armed by the U.S. inside Syria and Turkey.

They were more likely trained, in Adana, a city in southern Turkey about 60 miles (100 km) from the Syrian border, which is also home to Incirlik, a U.S. air base where U.S. military and intelligence agencies maintain a substantial presence; by the same CIA operatives used by the State Dept to send Syria weapons from Benghazi and Darnah back in Libya.

If Operation Zero Footprint in Libya was stupid, arming the Syrian branches of al-Qaeda two years after the FSA was thoroughly corrupted by al-Qaeda, is infinite degrees beyond stupid.

But that’s hindsight for ya….. or as Secretary Clinton would say “Whether they were, … at this point, what difference does it make?

By June of 2012 the New York Times was reporting that the CIA is operating a secret arms transfer program to Syria that sounded exactly like the re-diversion plan Clinton developed with Panetta/Petraeus.

According to the Times suddenly, there is: “…an influx of weapons and ammunition to the rebels.”

The Reuters article in August 2012 confirms the earlier report.

We know on September 5th 2012 – A Libyan flagged ship called Al Entisar (“The Victory”) docks in the Turkish port of Iskenderun. It is carrying 400 tons of cargo including many weapons such as rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs) and shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles (MANPADS) destined for Syrian rebels 35 miles away from Iskenderun.

The ship’s captain told the Times of London that the Muslim Brotherhood and the Free Syrian Army broke into a fight over the arms.

Operation Zero Footprint

In response to the Times of London report, and in a generally dismissed part of her congressional testimony, Senator Rand Paul asked outgoing Secretary Hillary Clinton a very specific question – (See @2:20 of this video and pay attention to the “duping delight”):

Which would bring us to a series of now reconcilable questions surrounding the joint State Dept. and CIA Benghazi Mission.

The entire weapons operation 2011 was labeled “Operation Zero Footprint”. The intent is outlined in the operational title – to leave no visible record of U.S. involvement in arming the Libyan “rebels”. No visible footprint.

We know from congressional inquiry Ambassador Chris Stevens had asked for more security in the months prior to Sept. 11th 2012. Requests sent to the State Dept that were denied.

We also know that NO MARINE DETACHMENT was ever put in place to defend the Benghazi Mission.

We also know the Benghazi Mission was initially, and mistakenly by media, called “a consulate”, or a “consulate outpost”. But there was no State Dept record of any consulate office in Benghazi.

All of these seeming contradictions can be reconciled with the simple understanding that this “Mission” in 2011 was unofficial. Remember the goal – No visible footprint.

We also know the Second Operation, in 2012, to arm the Syrians’ was also covert – No visible footprint.

Why were security requests denied? Remember the goal – No visible footprint.

We know from General Carter Ham (AFRICOM Commander now retired) the Department of Defense was not even aware the State Dept was operating a mission in Benghazi during 2012. Remember the goal – No visible footprint.

How could Hillary Clinton, Charlene Lamb, or Patrick Kennedy approve or request a marine security detachment knowing the entire mission around both Benghazi operations was covert?

Such a request would have traveled outside the small group of State/CIA insiders. The request would have gone to DoD. Short answer, they couldn’t.

Hence the disconnect between what seemed to be obvious and/or simple questions and the inability to accurately discuss in the public venues of congressional inquiry.

To the public Chris Stevens was a U.S. ambassador, a diplomat. To the folks inside the State Dept and CIA, Chris Stevens was a U.S. Ambassador, AND a CIA operative coordinating covert arms sales.

In 2011 those arms shipments were to aid the Libyan rebels, in 2012 those same arms were redirected to aid the Syrian rebels.

Even after death the public face of Chris Stevens, the official role, was the only role able to be discussed. The covert, or unofficial role, was not. Again, we see the disconnect between inquiry that could be answered, and inquiry that could not be answered. Many irreconcilables  surface because of this intelligence role – even through today.

The second role of Stevens, the covert and CIA aspect, still causes problems for people trying to understand the “why not” questions. The broader public asking why have we not seen, or heard from the survivors of the attacks?

The short answer is:

we have not heard from the survivors – but the intelligence community has.

Twice some of the survivors have given testimony to congress. The problem for the public is that those hearings are closed door, classified, intelligence hearings – led by then Chairman Mike Rogers and the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Again, go back to the beginning of Operation Zero Footprint and you see the congressional Intelligence Gang of Eight were fully aware of the intents.

The Gang of Eight in 2011 / 2012 was: House Speaker – John Boehner, Minority Leader – Nancy Pelosi; House Permanent Select Committee on Intel Chairman – Mike Rogers, and his Democrat counterpart Charles Ruppersberger; Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid; along with Senate Intel Chair Diane Feinstein and her Republican counterpart, Saxby Chambliss.

Why was Speaker Boehner reluctant to establish a Select Committee on Benghazi ?

Simple, again he is one of the Gang of Eight – and he was briefed on both operations. How is he going to call for a select committee to investigate when he knows the substance of the committee investigation is classified under national security. Such a committee would not, because it could not, deliver what the public was requesting, sunlight.

The only reason Trey Gowdy was finally assigned the task of a Select Committee, was simply because the public lies of the White House and administration were contradicting themselves.  More trumpet, more noise, was needed to cloud the stark reality that both political parties held oversight over the entire Benghazi debacle.

The White House “talking points“, which was/is a ridiculous squirrel hunt, were created to reconcile the problem faced when unable to discuss a covert operation.

It is far easier to look at the reality of the problem faced by the White House and CIA than any nefarious intention.

Unfortunately for the administration, or for any administration, they are not that good at controlling facts when questions that cannot be answered publicly are asked publicly.

Team Obama was so committed to keeping the covert operation “Zero Footprint” a secret (because of the political embarrassment from factually arming al Qaeda) that the cover story they manufactured (on the fly) was fraught with contradictions.

How could President Obama dispatch help to the Benghazi team, when DoD was not even aware of it’s existence? Sending help would have compromised OpSec, Operational Security.

The dispatch of F.E.S.T. would lead to increased knowledge of a covert operation.

Hopefully you are beginning to see the root of the contradictions. Once you understand the truth of what was going on within the back story – there’s almost nothing left which would dangle as an unanswered question. It all reconciles.

Back to the FALL of 2012 – On September 5th/6th 2012 the Turkish vessel “Al Entisar” docked in the Turkish port of Iskenderun. 400 tons of serious cargo including weapons destined for Syrian “rebels”.

In the U.S. that September 5th night former President Bill Clinton was introducing Candidate Barack Obama at the DNC convention in Charlotte North Carolina. In Afghanistan that night something happened that had already become a serious concern for the operatives within “Operation Zero Footprint”.

Chief Warrant Officer 2 Thalia Ramirez. Ramirez was killed when her OH-58D Kiowa Warrior helicopter crashed in eastern Afghanistan Sept. 5, 2012. Ramirez was assigned to Troop F, 1-17 Air Cavalry Regiment, 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade, 82nd Airborne Division. Photo: Photo Courtesy Pro Image Digital;Inc., Courtesy / U.S. ArmyAt the exact time Clinton was speaking in North Carolina, halfway around the world in Afghanistan Army Chief Warrant Officers Thalia S. Ramirez, 28, of San Antonio and Jose L. Montenegro Jr., 31, of San Juan, in the Rio Grande Valley, were killed while flying an OH-58D Kiowa Warrior, a Defense Department news release stated.

On September 5th 2012 – A U.S. organized ship loaded with weapons including missiles was offloading at a Turkish port. Bill Clinton was introducing Barack Obama, and the first black female combat pilot was shot down and killed by a shoulder fired missile in Afghanistan.

The relationship between the three events reflects the absolute political fear that revolved around Operation Zero Footprint.

The CIA and Intelligence community had stated earlier the biggest concern anyone held about arming the Libyan Rebels was the possibility those weapons might leave the Libyan conflict and travel to other locations where they would be used against our own soldiers. More and more evidence of this happening was growing.

In 2011 a total of four air assets were destroyed by enemy fire in Afghanistan. Two of those helicopters happened at the same time in August 2011 when we lost the Navy Seal unit that killed Osama Bin Laden. 22 Americans killed.

We had been in close quarter full combat operations in Afghanistan for 10 years, and we never had a problem with close air support. We had never faced the concern of our enemy having MANPADS.

From 2002 through 2010 Combat Operations saw zero occurrences of SAMS, Stingers, or MANPADS in general.

Within months after delivering weapons to the Benghazi and Darnah rebels (May, June and July 2011) we began facing MANPADS in Afghanistan.

Four instances in late in 2011 including the 22 lives lost in what came to be known as Operation “Extortion 17”.

In 2012 it got worse, much worse: June 1st AFGHANISTAN:

A combined patrol discovered a weapons cache containing three shoulder-fired, surface-to-air missiles, three anti-tank mines, 423 RPGs, 118,600 7.62 mm rounds, 30 rifles and other ordnance in the Tarin Kot district of Uruzgan province. The cache’s contents were destroyed. (link)

We had a serious problem and it was picking up speed exponentially. June 6th 2012 we lost another crew. July 25th 2012 yet another. August 16th 2012 again more losses. September 5th 2012 more deaths. It just kept getting worse.

By September 5th 2012 in the preceding nine months we had lost 11 helicopters to shoulder fired missiles in Afghanistan. The following headline hit the media:

America Suffers Worst Airpower Loss Since Vietnam

One of the incidents revealed details of what was being faced. The July 25th 2012 downing of a CH-47 which was found to have been hit with a “new generation” stinger missile. The risks were no longer mere worries, they were real:

[O]n July 25, 2012, Taliban fighters in Kunar province successfully targeted a US Army CH-47 helicopter with a new generation Stinger missile.

They thought they had a surefire kill. But instead of bursting into flames, the Chinook just disappeared into the darkness as the American pilot recovered control of the aircraft and brought it to the ground in a hard landing.

The assault team jumped out the open doors and ran clear in case it exploded. Less than 30 seconds later, the Taliban gunner and his comrade erupted into flames as an American gunship overhead locked onto their position and opened fire.

The next day, an explosive ordnance disposal team arrived to pick through the wreckage and found unexploded pieces of a missile casing that could only belong to a Stinger missile.

Lodged in the right nacelle, they found one fragment that contained an entire serial number.

The investigation took time. Arms were twisted, noses put out of joint. But when the results came back, they were stunning: The Stinger tracked back to a lot that had been signed out by the CIA recently, not during the anti-Soviet ­jihad.

Reports of the Stinger reached the highest echelons of the US command in Afghanistan and became a source of intense speculation, but no action.

Everyone knew the war was winding down. Revealing that the Taliban had US-made Stingers risked demoralizing coalition troops. Because there were no coalition casualties, government officials made no public announcement of the attack.

My sources in the US Special Operations community believe the Stinger fired against the Chinook was part of the same lot the CIA turned over to the ­Qataris in early 2011, weapons Hillary Rodham Clinton’s State Department intended for anti-Khadafy forces in Libya.

They believe the Qataris delivered between 50 and 60 of those same Stingers to the Taliban in early 2012, and an additional 200 SA-24 Igla-S surface-to-air missiles. (link)

In Afghanistan the DoD field response was immediate; all Close Air Support was cancelled.

The White House had a problem – “Operation Zero Footprint” missiles were now being used against us, but DoD didn’t know the origin because the Defense Department did not know about Zero Footprint, the State Department and CIA did.

The killing of Army Chief Warrant Officers Thalia S. Ramirez, 28, and Jose L. Montenegro Jr., 31, might not have been the final straw – but their September 5th 2012 deaths coincided with an absolute change in direction.

While the ISIS-minded Syrian Muslim Brotherhood and the Free Syrian Army were arguing over who gets what from aboard the Turkish vessel, back in Benghazi, Libya it was obvious the ideology of the Syrian factions were too extreme and the CIA could no longer control who would use such weapons.

God forbid DoD ground commanders in Afghanistan find out the MANPADS they were facing originated by our covert efforts in Libya.

Tayyip Erdogan - Turkey, David Cameron - U.K.

Tayyip Erdogan – Turkey, David Cameron – U.K.

Strangely one must give credit to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. As unbelievable as it might sound he was the lone Islamic voice in March 2011 saying “don’t arm the Benghazi rebels“:

March 2011 – Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish prime minister, has said he does not support the idea of arming Libyan rebels fighting to oust Muammar Gaddafi from power.

Speaking at a joint news conference with David Cameron, the British prime minister, in London, Erdogan said: “Doing that would create a different situation in Libya and we do not find it appropriate to do that.”

Erdogan also said that that sending weapons to Libya could feed terrorism, saying such weapons shipments “could also create an environment which could be conducive to terrorism”. (read more)

Erdogan and U.S. Defense Secretary Bob Gates were of the same mindset.

“My view would be, if there is going to be that kind of assistance to the opposition, there are plenty of sources for it other than the United States,” said Gates. “Somebody else should do that.” (link)

However, for Syria in 2012 Erdogan had a divergent opinion. He was all for arming the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda. This article, again from August 2012 – one month prior to the attack against Chris Stevens, outlines the goal of both Erdogan and President Obama:

(August 2012) President Barack Obama and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan spoke by telephone Monday “to coordinate efforts to accelerate a political transition in Syria,” the White House said.

This “would include the departure of (Syrian leader) Bashar Assad and be responsive to the legitimate demands of the Syrian people,” the statement said.

Obama and Erdogan shared their concerns over the Syrian regime’s crackdown on opposition “and the deteriorating humanitarian conditions throughout Syria as a result of the regime’s atrocities.”

Both [Obama and Erodgan] promised to coordinate efforts to help the growing numbers of Syrians displaced by the violence within Syria or forced to flee over the border to take refuse in Turkey or other nations in the region.

The statement said US and Turkish teams “would remain in close contact on ways that Turkey and the United States can work together to promote a democratic transition in Syria.” (link)

Obama Erdogan - Turkey

Alas, given the backstory of DoD not wanting to arm the rebels, and given the unintended consequences of 2011/2012 from Operation Zero Footprint, and given an upcoming election in November 2012, you can see why in post September 11 of 2012 the Obama administration would want to discontinue this operation and throw a bag over the events of the past 17 months.

Perhaps following the fiasco at the Port of Iskenderun a week earlier, Turkish Diplomat Consul General Ali Sait Akin arrives at the Benghazi Mission on Sept 11th 2012 to talk about the ongoing efforts to support Syria.

Perhaps, the conversation was about the increasing risk of arming a rising group of radicals against the backdrop of MANPADS being used against U.S. forces in other fields of combat.

Regardless of motivation Ali Sait Akin and Stevens were most certainly discussing the current situation with Turkey suffering the consequences and pushing a greater sense of urgency.

Indeed Turkey’s border region was filled with historic numbers of Syrian refugees fleeing the fighting which was completely out of control. The Scale of the crisis was staggering and out of control. Over 500,000 Syrians were now seeking shelter in Turkey.

Meanwhile the ideology of the radical elements controlling the arms shipments was openly becoming a danger to the entire region, and especially U.S. interests beyond Syria.

This would have put Stevens (U.S.) and Akin (Turkey) as opposing ends of the issue.

What we now know as ISIS – originated inside this group of Zero Footprint recipients, and Erdogan, a Muslim Brotherhood supporter, wanted to see Assad removed at any cost.

The rabid ideologues (now known as ISIS-2014) were quickly evolving into a risk for the region.  The U.S. policy team would have viewed the risk far differently than Turkey.

As the New York Times reported in an Oct. 14 2012 article, “Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster.”

We can only imagine the conversation within the Benghazi compound as both Ali Sait Akin and Chris Stevens parted ways for the final time on September 11th 2012.

Outside the compound walls, the 17th Feb Brigade – Ansar Al Sharia – were also assembled to deliver their final goodbyes.

The Turkish delegation was able to navigate the roadblocks without issue. And within 30 minutes of Consul Akin leaving the venue, Ansar Al Sharia executed their attack.

The Benghazi and Darnah Brigades already knew the compound inside and out, as well as the CIA ANNEX compound, a kilometer away, which contained four warehouse type buildings used by the CIA during the collection, distribution and delivery of Zero Footprint’s objectives over the past 17 months.

In June of 2009 the primary Benghazi Mission compound looked like this:

In March of 2011, when Operation Zero Footprint began, the Tactical Operations Command building (TOC) was added and it looked like this:


In December of 2005 the area which became the CIA Annex compound held two buildings:


In 2009 two more buildings were added bringing the total to FOUR:


By the time the CIA took over 2011, and when the compound came under mortar fire 2012, it looked like this:


Author’s notes:

patriotThe primary reason for outlining this brief is to deliver a greater understanding of why things happened the way they did in the post 9/11/12 attack media frenzy.

If you understand what took place from March 2011 through the night of the attack itself all of the contradictions reconcile, and most of the questions become answered.

Factually, I would challenge anyone who reads this brief to actually have a question left unanswered.

The events of the attack itself are gut wrenching and troubling. Our brave operations folks had to fight their way out of a situation where they literally were on their own due to the political risks inherent in carrying out their objectives.

However, they knew they were beyond the wire, they knew they were covert – they knew there was no manner, method or possibility of protection…. And this is the point everyone seems to miss:

THEY HAD TO KNOW THE DoD WAS IN THE DARK ABOUT THEIR ACTIVITY. There was NOTHING the Pentagon could have done to help them. Those people inside the Eastern Libya City of Benghazi, operating on behalf of the administration, were, for all intents and purposes, GHOSTS. They did not “technically” exist.

Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with the mission they were tasked to carry out, there is no doubt they worked honorably to serve their nation. Ultimately the leadership within the State Department, The CIA, and the White House are responsible for the outcomes of policy.

Our hope is that this outline will stimulate journalists to question those who were at the heart of these two operations. Ultimately the Trey Gowdy select committee will find there is no venue to discuss intelligence operations with public sunlight. While both Zero Footprint in 2011, and the Unnamed CIA operation in 2012 were flawed policy – they were not necessarily illegal.

There is a matter of an unidentified State Dept $6 billion contractor fund missing from Hillary’s term as Secretary of State; that might bear investigation. However, beyond those smaller questions there is little if anything to gain.


~ Sundance

Common Questions: The AFTERMATH – “The Cairo Protest VS The Benghazi Attack”

Here is where people get confused – because the U.S. State department wanted people to get confused.

On 9/11/12 the State Department was originally trying to deflect attention away from the Cairo Embassy Protest.

CNN correspondent Nick Robertson interviewed Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohammed Al Zawahiri on the morning of the planned Cairo protest 9/11/12. Zawahiri and team told Robertson they were rallying and protesting for the release of the Blind Sheik.

The protest turned violent and the U.S. Embassy was overrun by extremists who eventually hoisted the black flag of al-Qaeda within the compound.

The State Dept was trying desperately to cover their ass and frame the narrative so the optics of the al-Qaeda onslaught to the Embassy could be controlled.

To hide the intentions of the protesting mob (release of the Blind Sheik) the U.S. State Department fell back on a story about the Mohammed video – which they found out about two days earlier.

Against the backdrop of an upcoming election, and with Republicans beating up Democrats over the short-sighted foreign policy, the State Dept did not want the Muhammed Al Zawahiri narrative. The compound being overrun was a political embarrassment so they used the silly video to explain the protest:

(Remember this is all early in the day – prior to the Benghazi attack)

However, Mitt Romney jumped on this State Dept. Press Release to make the case that the U.S. appeared weak and apologetic. It created an immediate stir.

Unknown at the time was an UNRELATED attack was taking place at the Benghazi compound. The attack at Benghazi Libya had nothing to do with the protests at the Cairo embassy.

However, once the Benghazi attack took place, the State Dept needed a cover story which would sell to the U.S. electorate to explain the Benghazi issues. What Hillary and team did was sell/use the Cairo story as an explanation for Benghazi.

This is how the U-Tube video came into play.

The U-Tube video had nothing to do with the Cairo Embassy Protest.
The U-Tube video had nothing to do with the Benghazi attack.

Nothing about the U-Tube story was correct. It was all manufactured excuse-making, strategically put into the media cycle to protect the administration from the reality of flawed policy.

The U-Tube video had nothing to do with the Embassy protest in Cairo, nor the Benghazi attack in Libya. By now I think everyone would concur, albeit the media never went back to the Cairo motive to discuss because it became a secondary issue.

Did the Muslim Brotherhood leadership in Cairo, or specifically Muhammed Al Zawahiri, coordinate in some way with Ansar al Sharia in Libya, specifically on 9/11/12?

That’s a good question – unfortunately however, it’s a question without a factual answer. I don’t know; and an argument can be made that given all of the players and the influx of their communication it’s quite possible there was some coordination of effort.

What is factually certain is any communication they did have had nothing to do with a ridiculous U-Tube video.

The Cairo protest was 100% certain to be about the release of the Blind Sheik.

Was the Benghazi attack related in some effort to gain a hostage (Chris Stevens) as leverage toward that Al Zawahiri effort? Possible. I’ve seen that argument made, but have not been able to definitively connect the two.

It is a hard question to answer because the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood, Muhammed Al Zawahiri (the brother of al-Qaeda’s #1 Ayman Al Zawahiri), and the leadership of Ansar Al Sharia were not necessarily telling the foot soldiers the plans or larger objectives.

We do, however, believe the answer, if known, would be known by Fattah el-Sisi in Egypt and his team of military and intelligence people. The most reasonable approach is to listen to the Egyptian intelligence leadership on this point.

putin and el sisi 2

However, in the years between the attack (2012) and today (2016) the U.S. political relationship with Egypt has completely collapsed.   When you consider what Fattah al Sisi might know about the Benghazi cover-up, you discover another motive behind the horrendous diplomatic relationship the White House has with Egypt since the forced removal of Mohamed Morsi.

The last thing President Obama wants would be to see Western/U.S. journalists talking to al Sisi; and Obama most certainly wouldn’t want Sisi on U.S. soil as some political delegation.

…. Which also takes a person to accept that Egypt (Sisi) and Jordan (Abdullah), are now very close with Russia’s Vladimir Putin.   Much closer than they have ever been historically.  That relationship also carries the very real potential to explain why there is additional vitriol between Clinton and Obama toward Putin.

Putin could very well be in possession of all the information about everything outlined above.  AND be very smug in his knowledge that at any time he could use this information to leverage Clinton and/or any of the characters that surround Clinton who participated in the Libyan and Syrian operations.


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342 Responses to Senator Rand Paul Discusses Potential For Clinton Indictment Based on WikiLeaks Claim…

  1. Paco Loco says:

    In parliamentary governments, when there is illegal activity or even the smell of a scandal, the minister of parliament “culprit” typically accepts responsibility and then resigns. Here in the US, they never take responsibility and never resign (except for Nixon) when they commit a crime. Trump needs the Justice Department to investigate all of Obama’s and Hilleries crimes and bring the house down on all of the supporting cast who aren’t pardoned.

    Liked by 16 people

    • The Devilbat says:

      Obama’s pardons (along with everything else he has signed) can be overturned once Trump gets into office and releases hard evidence that Obama is a usurper.

      Liked by 11 people

      • jbarntt says:

        Trump can indeed reverse all of Obama’s executive orders, but pardons are not reversible. Pardons are one of the very few absolute powers of the President.

        Liked by 1 person

        • soozword says:

          So where is it written in law that pardons are not reversible by the subsequent president? Trying to differentiate custom from law.


        • Betty says:

          The operational part of The Devilbat’s comment is: “… once hard evidence that Obama is a usurper.”

          If it is important enough in the restoration of the rule of law in our Nation and President Trump goes there – what becomes of “absolute powers” then? What is the precedent regarding “absolute powers” of a pretender?

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        • oldtoenail says:

          But I don’t believe you can blanket pardon people for things they have not be convicted of. In other words if they have not went to trial and convicted what would you pardon them for. I never heard of a “general” pardon. That is what they would need.

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      • soozword says:

        Is there any historical precedent of a sitting President overturning pardons from a previos adminnistration? I don’t care if there are none, but it would make it a bit easier politically. Trump has already said he would do so on executive orders so don’t see pardons as much different.


        • JeremyR says:

          A legitimate pardon cannot be over turned. It is an unquestionable act. In the case of the piap, since Barry was party to any action she took because of her place in his administration, he cannot legitimately pardon her as I understand the law. I am no liar err lawyer though, so my opinion is just that, one opinion among 370 million.

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    • Paco Loco. Liked the information. Yes Both of them need to be investigated. But it seems no one will do it. Justice dept has been very sorry for the last years. No backbone and all payoff’s.


  2. Sentient says:

    Mike Rogers has been named as a foreign policy advisor to Trump. Does Trump understand that he is compromised?

    Liked by 3 people

    • singingsoul says:

      Trump might not know. Trump’s people need to read this article.

      Liked by 6 people

      • You are not giving Mr. Trump enough credit. I believe he knew well before he announced his run for POTUS.
        Mr. Trump has always had an active interest and role in politics and as a international businessman has close, personal advisors on such matters.
        I don’t understand why people continue to underestimate Mr. Trump’s abilities, knowledge, campaign and his intended message.
        He educates the people everyday using all media outlets and his rallies; it’s all very plain and open for all to see. That is why Obama is making direct shots at him from the OVAL OFFICE! Unprecedented!

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      • Clc says:

        I think Mike Rogers wife was CEO of a global security firm that provided security for embassies. I think including Benghazi. This is how elected folks get rich. Wonder if he had any pull on getting her those contracts?

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        • Clc says:

          Isn’t it odd that in one of the most dangerous cities on earth they provided the consulate with guards armed with nightsticks and flashlights while the annex was guarded by well trained contractors? Thank you Mike Rogers and wife.

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        • Sandra-VA says:

          Hillary Clinton is also involved in that company.. Blue Mountain, a UK firm, was selected as the vendor to provide LOCAL security in Benghazi. One has to ask why a UK firm was tasked with providing security to a US op.

          This is a very deep and dark well.

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        • jbarntt says:

          The U.S. embassy to Libya is/was in Tripoli, not Benghazi. The Benghazi operation wasn’t even a consulate. It was a covert CIA post.

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        • anthonydog says:

          Kristi Clemmons Rogers was named CEO OF Aegis US. reportedly at a salary of $10million. This interests as Clemmons Rogers was a lobbyist before the unprecedented rise.

          It interests that the only place Clemmons Rogers supplied subpar security was to Benghazi.

          In addition, the White House leaked 24 hours before the Benghazi hit to the WH papers of record, the WaPo and the NYT’s, that Obama did not read his daily security briefing but for 38% of the time.
          Were one suspicious one might think those leaks were a set up for President Plausible Deniability–particularly from a WH known for no leaks.

          Mike Rogers and his wife should be held accountable. That Mike Rogers was an FBI agent (in Chicago) makes his treachery that much more despicable.

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    • yadent says:

      I’m hoping Trump is following the old saying, “Keep your friends close, your enemies closer”. Neocons will infiltrate wherever and whenever they can. The amount of money involved is too great. As SD has pointed out many times there is much at stake for the powers that be. They will do WHATEVER it takes to maintain that power/money structure. Virtually no one is immune from the neocon influence…..even Trump. He’ll have to deal with it sooner or later. How he does EFFECTIVELY has yet to be seen.

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    • WSB says:

      Was Mike Rogers put on the team to expose or contain?

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    • Really?! Oh, that’s not good. I really hope he has someone close to him that reads CTH regularly.

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  3. Rex says:

    Sundance has done well to identify who, what, and when. “Why” is yet another interesting question. Is the answer political power? graft? obeying their masters? How do they profit from setting the middle east on fire? What’s their plan?

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    • @Rex: one does not have to posit a motive to simply observe that the policies of the Clintons, McCain, etc. are objectively pro-Islamic. It goes back at least to Jimmy Carter’s support for the “Mujahideen” against the Soviets in Afghanistan, and has continued forward under the Globalist wing of both branches of the Uniparty. The US has led pro-Islamist policies and/or direct military interventions on the side of radical Islam in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Serbia, Kosovo, Albania, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Syria, and currently Turkey.

      Trade deficits matter. When for several generations we buy oil from Islamic countries, those dollars will eventually be spent here in the US. Because our system is corrupt, those dollars are used to purchase influence via lobbyists, foundations, etc. We’ve made Islamists rich, it is only natural that they will use their wealth to pursue their own interests. And boy are they doing so! Consider the daily censorship of any criticism of Islam on all social media and the concern-trolling of all mainstream media and mainstream Christian denominations in the aftermath of every terrorist attack: hyping fear of a “backlash” that has never happened, but which is frankly long overdue.

      The smug self-righteousness of those who adamantly support Islamic immigration is matched only by their failure to even attempt to articulate how such a thing could even remotely be in the national interest.

      On the other side of the world, our trade deficit with China has led to a similar purchase of pro-Chinese political policies. The Chinese are snapping up real estate on the West Coast paying cash money dollars. Americans are being priced out of the housing market in places like San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, and elsewhere, and there’s not a damn thing anyone can do about it.

      The source of political correctness is the UN. Policies favor Islam, “minorities”, “women’s issues,” and are the source of the clamoring for gun control by our prostiticians, in flagrant disregard of the Bill of Rights. The UN is an un-elected body that is unaccountable to anyone. It legislates, and it is viewed by Progressive judges as being a source of law that is superior to the US Constitution.

      We need to fix our rigged political system. We need to de-Islamize. We need to get the UN out of the US, and get the US out of the UN. If anyone can do it, Trump can. It may be too much even for him, but if #CrookedHillary (or anyone other than Trump) becomes president, the US is finished. Toast.

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      • ECM says:

        IOW, “follow the money”, as in almost all things.

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      • Jedi9 says:

        “The UN is an un-elected body that is unaccountable to anyone. It legislates, and it is viewed by Progressive judges as being a source of law that is superior to the US Constitution.”

        Hmm! Sounds a lot like what the EU is. Is it no wonder that BREXIT was able to prevailed? It is for this very same reason that Trump has become such a phenomenon. Fighting fire with fire is what is going to be needed, and throwing the kitchen sink at every opportunity to expose the Clinton’s can not be stated enough!

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    • rmnewt says:

      Rather than money or ideology, I suggest the reason may be simply power and control. Money is a tool or means just as religion is a means to influence the masses. However, evil in pursuit of power and control over others use all means.

      I think it interesting, this administration pulled out the US military from Iraq and kept them minimally engaged in Libya so as to enable their “questionable” scheme. Let me restate, evil scheme that has led to the devolution of the ME and N Africa. I dont think the US military would have put up with it. Are we on the wrong side of good?

      We see a similar approach to reforming the US into a gov dependent and controlled society. Destroy the institutions and rebuilt a new nation into one that is subjugated to the elites.


    • Thomas says:

      To millions of young Islamic men an opportunity to move to Europe, add to their wives, and assist the fall of Western cilivilzation (aka civilization). Plus $6 billion in gold held by the government of Libya. $6 billion here, $6 billion there, pretty soon you’re talking real money.


    • DD More says:

      Rex – See Doug Hagmann, who has uncovered more about this mess and earlier than anyone else. Starting September 16, 2012 or 5 days after the attack.

      Part of the Saudi & UAE agenda is to rid the Middle East of Assad, and their plans intended on using our intelligence agencies, military subcontractors and others to do so. Race against Russia and Iran to build a pipeline to supply gas to Europe. Iran, due to Shia, had the lead across Iraq & Syria. Crooked Cash Foundation expected to work a little for the bribes.

      Also(1) the vidio was not shown on Egyption TV, just a 2 minute traller.
      Hillary or Brennan the Source?
      video trailer under the title Innocence of Muslims, which existed in virtual obscurity for a significant period from its production until September 11, 2012, has been traced to a now defunct Internet YouTube news channel that appears connected to the company formerly known as Stanley, Inc., a subcontractor to various agencies of the U.S. Federal Government that provided products and services to the U.S. military, the U.S. State Department and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, among others. Stanley, Inc. was acquired by the CGI Group in 2010.
      It is relevant to note that Stanley, Inc., based in Arlington, Virginia, was awarded a $164 million contract to print new U.S. passports in 2006. It is even more important to point out that two employees of Stanley, Inc., along with a third individual employed by another defense contractor identified as The Analysis Corporation, were identified as the perpetrators who breached the records of the U.S. passport office on three occasions in 2008 and “improperly accessed” the passport records of Barack Hussein Obama, Hillary Clinton and John McCain.
      Investigation verified that the CEO of the Analysis Corporation at the time of the passport office break-in was John O. Brennan, who served as a close advisor to Obama in 2008 on matters of intelligence and foreign policy. Brennan also contributed to Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign and had a 25-year career in the CIA. John O. Brennan is now the head of the CIA under Obama.

      on September 24, 2012, I found an Internet video titled “Proof Positive—In My Opinion” posted by an individual on the YouTube channel under the user name “Montagraph.” Interestingly, I found that many of his findings mirrored mine (or mine his), as we both traced the Avatar image metadata used by the NewsPoliticsNow channel that changed the name of the video during the early morning hours of September 11, 2012, and hosted the video to then government contractor Stanley, Inc., since acquisitioned by CGI.[the Affordable Health Care Act (ObamaCare) website folks]

      In summary, process of changing the name of the video and disseminating it during the very early hours of September 11, 2012, corresponding with nearly the exact local time in Libya when the attack on the CIA compound was beginning, appears to be legitimately traced to an Internet entity tied to government contractor Stanley, Inc., based on detailed forensic examination.


  4. duchess says:

    Bravo Sundance. Thank you for the work you did on this.This is the best analysis I’ve ever read re connecting all the Obama-Clinton dots/timelines etc. It took me quite a while to read much to digest. As a previous poster said, it is no wonder so many are scared to death of Trump getting into the White House. I pray for his safety daily.

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    • SZ says:

      Ditto, duchess…Sundance’s brief is brilliant to say the least.

      Anyone who is a writer would know how difficult it is to put all the facts together in such an understandable way… a brief that has such timelines and complexity involved…

      All I can say is WOW (Wonders Of Wonders) this brief by Sundance is really important as now the average reader can easily follow the facts of how everything unfolded.

      May this reach the masses.

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    • duchess says:

      I have sent this to many of our friends abroad. Responses thus far have been very sobering in that our friends who live in places like Canada, Germany, Australia, NZ, Argentina , England, Spain, have NOT has such a concise overview EVER.

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  5. AdamSelene says:

    Amazing. I had not read that before. Thank you Sundance.

    One thing you might want to update in light of the email releases. You say:

    “Additionally, you would think there’s no way congress, in an election year, would approve of funding Syrian rebels against the possibility of it hurting Israel; And the White House was not about to do a known and official covert operation which had a great potential to go sideways, and become far too politically dangerous. 2012 was an election year.

    But they did.

    Who wanted to aid Syria more? President Obama or Hillary Clinton? That is a question for later year historians. Regardless of how the idea came up, we know a decision was made to do it, and to do it covertly.”

    We now know from that the goal of regime change in Syria was to aid Israel and make Israel more comfortable with a nuclear Iran. Essentially Iran funds Hezbollah in Syria and Iranian nuclear deterrence would hamper Israel’s efforts to strike Iran in retlation to terrorist attacks originating from Syria.

    Back to Hillary’s bad judgement, this seems insane. Sure, with Assad gone it may no longer be Hezbollah attacking Israel from Syria, but the long term goals of the jihadi forces who would take charge in Syria would not coincide with those of Israel.

    Also, I support the state of Israel, and do not want them to suffer terrorist attacks. However, I question Hillary’s judgment. Great, Syria is no longer a useful base for Hezbollah, but in exchange for stopping some terrorist activity against Israel, we got 400k war dead in Syria, Europe destablizing due to the migrant crisis, and ISIS attacks in Paris, Nice, San Bernardino, Orlando, etc. This is not a good trade.

    Finally, the email says the point of destablizing Assad is to make Israel comfortable with a nuclear Iran. This ties into the ridiculous Iran deal. Why on earth is a nuclear Iran such a given that it was worth toppling Assad, creating ISIS, destabalizing Europe, and everything that entails? If our policy had been “no nukes for Iran” couldn’t we have avoided all of this mess?

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    • Marc says:

      Why is the US in a position to say or prevent Iran from having nukes? By what authority does the USA have to decide what nations can and can’t have nukes? The Israel fear is a throw off. Those emails you spoke of talked about Israel wanting to remain the nuclear hegemony in the mid east. This isn’t about safety but power and until the average American pulls their head out of their ass, we will continue thinking Israel is worried about their existence(they’re not).


    • skifflegirl says:

      Regarding Libya, Sundance wrote: “This March/April 2011 time frame is when “Responsibility To Protect” came up as a justification for our engagement. Samantha Power, Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton all wanting to fully support “the rebels”.”

      The United States continually finds reasons to intervene in other nations civil wars, always under the banner of ‘human rights’ or ‘sanctions didn’t work.’ These people are obsessed with interfering for other reasons (hence the “we came, we saw, he died” statement when Qaddafi was killed). I seriously doubt that Hillary EVER does anything to protect or assist anyone but herself. We can watch ‘Clinton Cash’ the movie to see how she and Bill enriched themselves while leaving the Haitians or African nations in ruins.

      Did Hillary, Samantha Powers and Susan Rice join with France (and others like Soros?) supporting the overthrow of Qaddafi because the banking interests didn’t want Libya to establish an alternative to the franc?
      From Sidney Blumenthal to Hillary Clinton April 2, 2011: “Qaddafi’s government holds 143 tons of gold, and a similar amount in silver. During late March, 2011 these stocks were moved to SABHA (south west in the direction of the Libyan border with Niger and Chad); taken from the vaults of the Libyan Central Bank in Tripoli. This gold was accumulated prior to the current rebellion and was intended to be used to establish a pan-African currency based on the Libyan golden Dinar. This plan was designed to provide the Francophone African Countries with an alternative to the French franc (CFA). (Source Comment: According to knowledgeable individuals this quantity of gold and silver is valued at more than $7 billion. French intelligence officers discovered this plan shortly after the current rebellion began, and this was one of the factors that influenced President Nicolas Sarkozy’s decision to commit France to the attack on Libya.”

      I always wondered WHY did we interfere so much in these Middle Eastern nations if it wasn’t for oil? Turns out there are lot’s of different reasons and none of them are good.


  6. truthandjustice says:

    Everyone needs to be educated also about the history and what ideology has been ruling us & how, etc. It’s Cultural Marxism, which Hillary, Obama & past Admin. pushed – (Alinsky/Trotskyites) Excerpts

    “In 1934, the school was reborn at Columbia University…
    It was at Columbia University that the school honed the tool it would use to destroy Western culture..
    Critical Theory….
    is a play on semantics. ..criticize every pillar of Western culture—family, democracy, common law, freedom of speech, and others. The hope was that these pillars would crumble under the pressure.

    Next was .. redefined traditional American views on gender roles and sexual mores as “prejudice.” ..
    ..pushed its shift away from economics and toward Freud by publishing works on psychological repression.
    Their works split society into two main groups: the oppressors and the victims. They argued that history and reality were shaped by those groups who controlled traditional institutions. At the time, that was code for males of European descent.

    From there, they argued that the social roles of men and women were due to gender differences defined by the “oppressors.” In other words, gender did not exist in reality but was merely a “social construct.”

    Marcuse coined the term “liberating tolerance.” It called for tolerance of any ideas coming from the left but intolerance of those from the right. One of the overarching themes..was total intolerance for any viewpoint but its own. That is also a basic trait of today’s political-correctness believers.

    “Logic is not independent of content.”

    In turn, this has contributed to the undeniable breakdown of the family unit, as well as identity politics, radical feminism, and racial polarization in America.

    .., the political establishment in America has fully embraced the ideas of the Frankfurt School and has pushed them on American society through public miseducation.

    Obama and Hillary , the beacons of progressivism, are both disciples of Saul Alinsky, a devoted cultural Marxist.

    And so we now live in a hyper-sensitive society in which social memes and feelings have overtaken biological and objective reality as the main determinants of right and wrong.
    Political correctness is a war on logic and reason.

    To quote Winston, the protagonist in Orwell’s dystopia, “Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2=4.”

    Today, America is not free.

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  7. Tony Stark says:

    Congress will never do anything about it, not while Ryan and McConnell have Obama’s and Hillary’s backs.

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  8. Clc says:

    The Benghazi and Darnah Brigades already knew the compound inside and out, as well as the CIA ANNEX compound, a kilometer away, which contained four warehouse type buildings used by the CIA during the collection, distribution and delivery of Zero Footprint’s objectives over the past 17 months.
    I do have a question about this. did they know of the annex? I have read where even the neighbors who lived around the annex were unaware of what was going on there or so they told news media after the attack. I still think the attackers were going to rescue some companions who had been hijacked by cia. they went to the known compound, the consulate, and then followed the americans over to the annex.


  9. rondo says:

    In a world that truth does not matter, this is just another example of getting the Rightwing excited about something that will never happen.

    Hitler could be on the Democratic parties ticket and they would still vote Democrat.

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  10. Bull Durham says:

    About the DOD not knowing, kept out of the loop, not a player or planner, unaware:

    I offer one name to begin with: Michael Flynn, Lt. Gen.,ret., Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, from Jul 24, 2012- August 2, 2014.

    Quick wiki backgrounder as reference:
    Michael T. Flynn (born between November 29, 1958 and May 24, 1959)[2][3] is a retired United States Army lieutenant general[4][5] who served as the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, commander of the Joint Functional Component Command for Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance, and chair of the Military Intelligence Board from July 24, 2012, to August 2, 2014.[6] Prior to that, he served as Assistant Director of National Intelligence. He consistently pushed for greater information and intelligence sharing and was a leading figure in coalition and special operations intelligence operations.

    Flynn, as a fanatical man about Intel in the entirety of his career would have known it all. He would have penetrated any veils of civilian-CIA linkage as merely routine business he needed to know. And especially, that AFRICOM, to whom and from whom he would have had deep stovepipes of Intel, for General Ham and from General Ham, and from the use of Predator drones from various bases all over Southern Med and North Africa, and from other militaries of nearby countries, even from countries who were not our allies. China was heavily involved in infrastructure in Libya and they always have PLA on the ground (very heavily in Gabon, South Sudan, Iraq). The sources Flynn would have had would have been in the counter-terror world of Russia, Israel, China, France, Britain, and Jordan. There is no way Flynn didn’t know everything. Nor General Ham. (I’ll get back to Ham shortly.)

    Flynn’s focus of course was Syria, because that war was going on steroids and would fracture the lynchpin nation of the Middle East. Lebanon and Jordan and Israel all leverage upon Syria. Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the other Gulf States all wanted Syria broken into pieces for their pipelines to go through Syria. Russia has always had a naval base in Syria at Tartus. And Flynn knew of all the Turkey-Libya-Qatar process and all the weapons and training going on.I knew it from reading the news about it. Flynn knew it.

    Flynn’s business was to know it all. To know more than the CIA Intel sector knew. (The Clandestine service was doing the dirty work.) Flynn also was in a position that had replaced the CIA serving Intel to the DOD. That changed under Obama.

    (here’s link to some info: )

    Flynn had a role in forcing Intel gathering and sharing among agencies. He shook up the US Intel world in 2010 going to an outside Think Tank to publish his small manifesto of what should be done in the US world of Intel.

    More from Wiki:
    Flynn’s military career was primarily operational, with numerous combat arms, conventional and special operations senior intelligence assignments. He also served as the senior intelligence officer for the Joint Special Operations Command, where he was credited with creating innovative techniques for interrogation operations and operations-intelligence fusion, leading to major breakthroughs in counterterrorism operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere against Al-Qaeda and its associated movements. (note “elsewhere”)

    So, Flynn, in my view of things from Flynn’s career arc and advancement with his ideas and purposes would have known everything. He also is a keeper of secrets. He would know what was legal, what was criminal, what was classified, what could be hinted at. He has stayed mum. But his agency knew everything. And they knew what would happen but could not prevent it nor stop it.

    Now, General Ham. Ham, as Commander of AFRICOM knew everything going on in Libya, all of North Africa and especially the terrorists operations facing Gaddafi and Egypt.
    (from wiki: The U.S. Senate, in November 2010, confirmed Ham’s nomination to become the next Commander of U.S. Africa Command, headquartered at Kelley Barracks, Stuttgart, Germany.[5] He assumed the post on March 8, 2011.

    He was in charge of AFRICOM for 1 year and 6 months when Benghazi happened. He had been in command of US forces during the NATO operations installing the no-fly zone ove Libya. Ham also has stated to the Trey Gowdy investigation that he altered the deployment order from Panetta to land at Tripoli and not Benghazi. Carter Ham knew everything. That night of Benghazi he was in the Pentagon and redirected drones over the scene and sent live video to the WH, the State Department and the Pentagon for all top officials from about 4:30 in the afternoon onward, DC time. He said the drones were unarmed. (I don’t believe that. Certainly, a second one or maybe a third one would have been armed.)

    So, the DOD, the AFRICOM and the DIA all knew everything in their Command area. To say because the very un-cleaver Ben Rhodes and his ilk in the WH, combined with the incredibly stupid State dept. and others from CIA Langley and the base annex operation (Base Chief Bob as the contractors referred to him later) had an operation that was off the books, covered by classification and under executive order was unknown or unknowable is not reasonable.

    And now we know that Flynn and Trump are teammates.
    And Russia is the lead force against ISIS.
    And Turkey is now allied with Russia.
    And Obama and Hillary are Siamese Twins sown together with Panetta and all the underlings and the Congressional front men and women, and all the neo-con think tanks and retired military and clandestine operatives in the continual arming of radical Islamic terrorists.

    God Help America. God Help Americans save this nation.

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    • AdamSelene says:

      So is what you’re saying that Flynn is so pissed now because he knew what was going on, but not “officially,” so he was sending the drone footage to the WH and State so they could man up and call in the cavalry…but they didn’t?

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      • Bull Durham says:

        Flynn was pissed that he never got into the Oval Office during his time as DIA chief to brief the President. Obama kept all Intel briefs away from him for deniability purposes. That was why he was never in the Situation Room that evening or night. Obama refuses to be blamed for anything. He doesn’t take his daily CIA briefs. He stiff-arms anything that might point back to him or is not pro-Islamic.

        Flynn was brought in close to shut him up. He got out before they compromised him.

        The feed for drones to the US, I heard on TV from Intel people, goes automatically to the three places. This was that sort of Emergency. Everyone was in on all of it and they all lied and said otherwise. Ham was part of the forced coverup. Obama had already fired an Admiral because he spoke up about trying to send planes to assist. Ham shut up for a month and retired fast. He knew it all.

        Flynn now has staked his future work for America with Trump. He knows only Trump can reverse the intended internal destruction of the USA by the Liberals if Hillary gets in.

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        • Jimmy Jack says:

          Flynn has been furious with Obama for years now and has repeatedly tried to warn Americans Islam is at war with us and we need to recognize it. Also, don’t forget he worked with Mcchrystal in Afghanistan, giving him access to special forces info, and working against (essentially) Petraeus vision of the war effort as “building hearts and minds”. Obama turned on McChrystal/Flynn and moved on to Petraeus. When Petraeus was a threat to Obama, Obama sold him down the river.

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          • Bull Durham says:

            I concur. Your comment is correct.
            Most of the deaths in Afghanistan since 2009 are Obama’s. it’s been his war, his policies, his double-dealing with our own men and women fighting there. He’s sold out everyone.

            I am betting that they never informed him they were going after Bin Laden until it was too late for him to stop them. Look at him in the Situation Room. Terrified. A child. I don’t believe he made the decision or approved of it. All that risk came back to him and he would have no deniability. Impossible. But he took all the credit for it.

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      • Mark says:

        “Stop the world and let me off”. Merle Haggard


    • farmhand1927 says:

      Excellent, Bull. Thank you.

      Liked by 3 people

    • SZ says:

      And to take it further…

      Now we know why all of those people are really railing against Donald Trump.

      Donald Trump continually reveals the truth.

      It never has been about Donald Trump and what he says…it’s about them being exposed as betrayers, liars, and under-handed, double-dealing crooks in their betrayal of America and all Americans.

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    • quintrillion says:

      When will the public wise up to the fact that Valarie Jarrett and the Muslim Brotherhood are running DC? We should be revolting like the Egyptians and rise up. Cold anger is getting a bit frosty while the fascists, leftist and Islamists have declared a hot war against all people that remain sane and moral.

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      • Dommy says:

        “When will the public wise up…”
        Sadly, the time’s past on that one. Don’t hold your breath.

        Trump-Pence is our country’s only — and last — chance.

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  11. Victorious Grace Good says:

    In reading the Benghazi Report (approximately 800 pages), watching the hearings regarding the Cl


  12. calchase says:

    Absolutely amazing work – I’m probably going to have to read it about a dozen times before I can absorb everything. Have there been any updates to the referral paperwork Chaffetz filed after the Comey questioning? That would cover her lying (1 of many )to Jim Jordan during the Benghazi congressional hearings. I also have another question – in the beginning of his questioning, Chaffetz specifically asked where her servers was located. Comey said the operation server was in her basement in New York. Then he said when they were decommissioned they were moved to other facilities. I’ve heard rumors – that there were servers recovered/found in Benghazi with possible evidence?

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  13. truthandjustice says:

    Interesting about how Hillary became our “Hillary”, Wicked Witch of the West – from Kelleigh Nelson, who knew her in high school when she was different. Seems it’s all due to falling under the evil influence of a new “free thinker” Methodist youth minister, of all things – who liked Alinksky and introduced her to him………it was downhill from there.

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  14. rashamon says:

    HEADS UP: Sunday’s New York Times Magazine devotes the entire publication to “Fractured Lands: How the Arab World Came Apart” by Scott Anderson in five parts.


    • Tony Stark says:

      That will be the sanitized and heavily redacted version to remove the blame on Obama and Hillary.

      Liked by 3 people

      • rashamon says:

        Isn’t it called “getting ahead of the story”? I can’t remember when the NYT ever devoted this much space to any one topic, but then I gave up reading it when I finished J-school back in the days of the dinosaurs. 🙂

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        • Sandra-VA says:

          There is another NYT reporter who has been exceptionally good in her tweet storms about isis/aq. Don’t dismiss the article out of hand – there are a few good journalists still working there. HOWEVER, you better believe that it has been “vetted” and “adjusted” for the viewing audience 😉

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  15. Wow, Sundance, well done!

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  16. barton2016 says:

    Lick her up!!!🚌


  17. If more people had the guts like Rand Paul, to publicly speak out about how corrupt the system is, I think this country would be better off. I say Lock Hillary up and throw away the key!!

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  18. Joe says:

    No wonder Sundance was all for Rand Paul for VP!

    Tried to post the link at several media outlets including ABC News, converted the link using tinyurl…none of the outlets would accept the link.

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  19. dekester says:

    This site, and Sundance’s enlightening articles have been immensely educational. I had no idea the depth of the corruption at all levels of government, and in both parties.
    One thing that always surprised me was the capitulation of McCain back in 2008. It all becomes clear now.
    The fear he had for exposing Obamas Marxist and Islamic roots shocked me. Looking back on it now, it is apparent that the MSM’S love affair with McCain, was because he is a plant.
    He was always on T.V., and was always front and centre on committees of real influence.
    My intuitions were never good about the man..whatever that is worth.
    The Islamic seeding of your nation is by design and is un-fettered.
    Western Europe is done..Canada has a few more decades. ( Its vastness has protected it so far.)
    If your #nevertrumpers throw this election Clinton’s way it will be all over for you guys.

    The same suspects are present in all affected countries. A commenter on this site disagreed that many of the countries were run by communists, he may have been right. However most of the communists are not stupid enough to disclose their allegiance. They fly under the progressive banner.

    Our Prime Minister ( Trudeau.) is the son of Marxist Pierre Trudeau.. that attended the London school of economics. The father used nearly exactly the same playbook as Obama, and that was back in the 60’s. When he was elected as a Liberal!! He systematically began to dismantle all that was traditional in Canada, and implemented multi- culturalism
    Fast forward to last year, and Obama’s people came north to assist Trudeau junior in his election to our highest office. He will do whatever Mr Obama says.

    Who would have believed Russia would be seen as more of a protector of Christian values, than your President and many of your elected representatives.

    For the record I have never been a church goer, but I do have belief in good.
    Mr. D.J. Trump is inherently good, and my strong desire is that the Christians who are still a majority in your fine country, unite. Then. Protect and elect him.

    The day then may be saved, and the future bright.

    Thank you all, and I am truly sorry if this was off topic, or more than a little tedious.

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  20. Sandra-VA says:

    Excellent, writing, Sundance! You have outlined the connections very well.

    I have not read all the comments yet, but in addition to blowing up the ME, Obama/Clinton are DIRECTLY responsible for the migration to Europe and possibly the fall of same in the not too distant future: Not to mention putting the USA on the path to islamic takeover. This HAS TO BE STOPPED now, or we will look like the UK does now.

    Just an example of some of what is still going on at Calais:

    THIS is Obama’s legacy. A most dangerous man.

    I fear that Mr. Trump is up against an incredible force this election because of all the secrets and lies that he will become privy to (I think he knows a LOT already), and if he makes it to the White House it will be because the PEOPLE have finally had enough and will give him the election in a landslide.

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  21. Joe says:

    If you want to get an idea of the type of weaponry being used in Syria – much of it American and / or western sourced – check out LiveLeak, the Syria tab. Many of the military organizations fighting, in Syria, upload propaganda videos of them killing their enemy’s. What I find so compelling are the weapons that these groups use TOW missiles being among them – – seems like ALL sides have gotten ahold of these things. Link here to LiveLeak Syria:

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  22. Spencer's Mom says:

    Sundance –


    I’ve read through the brief once – but will need to read through several more times – and take written notes – to really fully understand all the “loose ends” that feed into complex story. This is something i’ll get to later today…

    Meanwhile – thank you, thank you.

    My only regret is that many American voters who don’t normally follow current events would not be able to truly savor your entire revelation of the FUBAR situations that resulted from our “leadership” that wasn’t up to the task leading up to events occurring during the 2010-2012 timeframe.

    It’s even somewhat difficult for me – and I am already familiar with most of the players – this admission from a self-admitted current events junkie.

    Still – dare I speculate a firestorm that would erupt if more (wikileaks or other sourced) emails were to be released? If they showed that our Secy of State lied to congress — proving that she DID have knowledge of the situation in Libya, arms transfers, etc., that would be something that the average American could follow.

    Too bad our MSM is no longer interested in real investigative journalism – rather not when it endangers the reputation of a Democrat.

    Again – Bravo – and thank you!

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  23. RP says:


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  24. Concerned Virginian says:

    Sundance, thank you so much.
    Read through your brief once already. Am ready to do second reading with strong cup of coffee.
    I do have one question: Trey Gowdy.
    Was he put in charge of the farcical “hearings” because he was truly ignorant of the truth behind the scenes, or was he in charge because Boehner/McConnell/White House/Hillary Clinton were “grooming” him to be a tool? I guess a related question then is, Has Trey Gowdy woke up?

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  25. joshua says:

    Benjamin Franklin was tasked in the summer of 1776 by the signers of the Declaration of Independence with designing the Great Seal of the United States.

    Franklin chose as the motto to be adopted as part of that seal, “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.” Thomas Jefferson liked that phrase so much he adopted it as well.

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  26. James F says:

    The Clintons have deep tiies to Turkish Islamist Mullah Mulen dating back to 1997.

    In this video released yesterday, Sibel Edmunds exposes how the Clinton administration/CIA flew Gulen out of Turkey in 1998 and helped establish a terror network using his heroin profits.

    Edmonds has actually been talking about this for years but Assange announcing the release of leaked emails exposing the Clinton/Gulen partnership have the potential of providing more evidence to back her up.

    WikiLeaks, Hillary-Gulen Intimate Ties & How Clintons Gave Birth to Mullah Gulen’s Terrorist Network.

    Liked by 1 person

  27. Afterthought says:

    Why are we still interpreting this battle to be between two factions in a single nation?

    It’s two nations vying for the same territory. They aren’t going to vote against their own people for any reason, (emails especially) just as we would not.

    We’re going to keep losing until we get this.

    Liked by 1 person

  28. TrumpUup says:

    And people say journalism is dead,great piece,absolutely spot on…


  29. keebler AC says:

    Liked by 1 person

    • three by one says:

      They have been the #1 visitor to the WH.

      Use a gmail account? They data mine it. Your entire search history? Use an Android?

      They need an administration that will let them do what they please. Anti-Trust is their mortal enemy. They support the candidates they can buy.

      In return, they censor like crazy, manipulate search results, “suggest” where they want you to go.

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  30. nwtex says:

    THAT is the longest post I have e.v.e.r. seen. Don’t know how Sd does it. He’s got the be the most organized person on the planet.

    Liked by 1 person

  31. keebler AC says:

    Crooked Hillary getting botoxed because she looks awful.

    Liked by 2 people

  32. Rural NC says:

    The following video explains much, and it is a sad one to me. In it do we see Libya as a third-world country; do we see Gadhafi hated by his fellow citizens? The video is entitled “Libya Truth 8/27/11” as Gadhafi rides through the streets. His death along with our American heroes in Benghazi will never be erased from my mind.

    Liked by 2 people

    • Wend says:

      Gaddafi did a lot of good for that country.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Trumped says:

        He did a lot of bad things to many families to achieve that too. Doesnt work otherwise in these countrys.
        Overall the world and his country was better of with him then with the guys running around now 😦
        Same with Assad and Saddam. But hey that was the goal right? To create more chaos so that they can control more out of the chaos.

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  33. sysconfig says:

    This is as riveting as the Clinton For Cash Narrative, it leaves us knowing the choice we must make in November, and the hard work we must do to help Mr. Trump clean out the entire house.
    RIP all those pilots…who lost their lives as a result of this ill conceived project and countless others. It will be no surprise now to me when those weapons come here to roost. It does not even have to be from land but sea routes commercial planes fly over.

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  34. Joe says:

    How ironic.

    Obama turns out to be maybe, the most gun running President in history.

    No matter domestic or international policy, Obama’s answer is to covertly run guns: 1). Domestic Policy: Gun control. Obama’s answer? Sell fully automatic guns to the Mexican drug cartels hoping they indiscriminately kill innocents to birth gun grabbing legislation. Think about that. 2). International policy: Obama’s answer? Arm supposed rebels that turn out to be ISIS & Taliban. Who knew?! Swing and a miss I guess, too bad the Seal Team & America’s first black female combat pilot (among others) took the hit!

    Yeah, just “bad” policy. Sure.

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  35. three by one says:

    Save a copy of this masterwork. For that matter, save anything that is important. On a separate drive.

    Print out a dated copy, so when the NYT or WaPo decides to frontrun the story the way they want it told, you have hardcopy of who was first with the correct story and who tried to massage it.

    Will they continue to deny or sacrifice a knight or bishop to protect their queen?

    Who is expendable in the above cast of characters? Someone on which they have so much dirt they’d take a fall.

    All Hillary has to do is stall, delay and deny until November. More leaks are supposedly coming, but we must push for action. Spread copies of information. Tell your Congressman you want answers on this in exchange for your vote. If your local media still uses comments, ask why they are not covering the leaks and related stories.


  36. Dommy says:

    Marshalling evidence?
    Here we go again.
    Reminds me of the early days when sincere patriots were frantically marshalling evidence that His DownLowness was not a Natural Born Citizen and therefore not eligible to be president of the U.S.
    We all know where that went.
    One can have all the evidence in the world, but if elected powers and unelected judges are ALL corrupt, compromised, and/or cowardly whatever you’ve got is going to fall on ‘deaf’ ears.
    And after the Comey travesty? I’m convinced the best we’re going to get is a congressional rap on the knuckles, posthumous at that.

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  37. After reading this it sounds like Hydra out of Marvel comics. People still don’t think the system is rigged? You would have to be a Benedict Arnold or complete Dumb@$$ to risk HRC getting elected.


  38. TheLastDemocrat says:

    Great post.
    One aspect that jumps out at me is the strategy of moving people in government positions so that the person or the agency cannot be effective. This works in two ways. One is that you lose the built-up knowledge, expertise, and ongoing effectiveness of the person in the responsible position. The second is that the regime change itself takes time, so momentum is lost.

    This political strategy was distinctly described by Samuel Yette in his 1972 book, “The Choice: The Issue of Black Survival in America.”

    Yette was a Newsweek journalist who got snapped up in the Nixon/Johnson administration as part of the federal level response to the complaints about the plight of the African American male job-seeker.

    After a while, Yette resigned. Because he figured out 1. There were serious policies that could have been pursued to address the issue of African-American employment and employability; 2. These were advanced or nominated to the handful of people supposed to be tasked to addressing this problem; 3 these things did not happen; 4. other efforts were made; 5. These other efforts allowed the fed government to claim that they were addressing the problem, so the political pressure was reduced (lip service); 6. The efforts actually undertaken were efforts taken along the “job readiness” avenue rather than “job training,” and so involved a bunch of modern-hype teaching with computers and training firms – ALL of which was done by cozy-relationship private businesses, including defense contractor – yes, more ‘you scratch my back…’

    So, in short, the fed govt players in the latter 1960s/early 1970s KNEW how to control things by moving people from one position of power to another.

    Yette says a whole lot in this book about how politics develops to serve the insiders while sustaining the veneer of altrustic “public service.” It is a no-punches-pulled barn-burner. I don’t agree with Yette’s political orientation, but there is far too much of honest-to-goodness value in the book to pass it up for that.

    I have learned a lot from being tipped off here and there about some little-known nugget of a book that puts the political world, or the globalists or progressives or the Marxists, into sunlight. Usually, I go to Amazon and find old copies for next to nothing, and just click away. Sadly, the used copies for sale on Amazon of this old piece from Yette are pricey. I am surprised because this should have been a staple of many an African-American Studies course across the years. – if you are interested, maybe you can check a library. Or, pay the $50, buy, read, and resell and get your $50 back


  39. gary lacey says:

    The big why?
    The Obama administration attempted to turn Egypt over to the Muslim brotherhood and that failed.
    Was Obama attempting to set the countries(Syria and Egypt) against Israel for its destruction?


    • Clc says:

      Other way around. Protect israel by eliminating strong leaders in surrounding hostile countries. Sending those countries into chaos and destruction.


  40. Mikeydoo says:

    Okay so I’m a bit nervous about the recent polls… when is this all going to be widely exposed? Trump hints at it saying hills and Barry are founders of ISIS… when will the average voter know the truth in that?

    Liked by 1 person

    • Ace says:

      Never. They don’t and will never know about any of this stuff. I test people all the time. Most of them know absolutely nothing. try it yourself.


    • swissik says:

      I too am nervous and getting more so by the day. As I said somewhere else, I can’t trust the Trump advisors. Everybody says Trump needs political insiders to guide him. Trump has dealt with politicians all his business life and knows what he is up against. He should proceed with great caution.


  41. visage13 says:

    Thank you Sundance, that was an interesting and an understandable read. All I can say is you (the administration) reap what you sow. And eventually, it will come back on them, unfortunately, so far, it has hurt too many innocents but I have to believe eventually what goes around comes around.


  42. spacette55 says:

    AT 5:50 am Eastern Time, while Americans were besieged at the Annex in Benghazi, Hillary sent this emal to Huma Abedin.

    Here’s the french language trailer to the video mentioned in the email.


  43. perpetuaofcarthage says:

    One sentence in there that particularly surprised me:
    There is a matter of an unidentified State Dept $6 billion contractor fund missing from Hillary’s term as Secretary of State; that might bear investigation.

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  44. Keln says:

    This “briefing” took forever to get through.

    I can stop complaining now about Sundance’s posts being too short 😀

    Really excellent information, and I think this should be turned into a documentary for YouTube. I “know a guy” if Sundance gives permission, that I can ask.

    More people will watch a documentary than will read through something this long, and I think this information is too important for people to not see.

    Liked by 1 person

    • three by one says:

      One possible format for YouTube might be something in the style of James Burke.

      His “Connections” series was well done and assembled many pieces of information to present a coherent understanding for the viewer. Might break it up into 2 or 3 segments.

      Here’s an example: “feedback”

      Clinton operates without it. She says something, anything, and her sycophants respond with idiotic blather such as, “you’re the star!” (Cheryl Mills actually put that in an email”

      Our policy is open loop. Nobody dares criticize Hillary or Obama. Dumb ideas become disastrous actions.

      This story is feedback.


      • Keln says:

        I don’t really want to break it up. It should be a single piece. I’ve sent a message to “my guy” about it, but can’t do anything unless SD says go. He might not, which I can understand. His written version is a masterpiece. I just wish most people weren’t so damn lazy to not read it. Then a video wouldn’t be necessary.

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  45. Jeffrey Bellinger says:

    Stavridis a Greek name. The family from Anatolia region of Turkey.


    • three by one says:

      Pontic Greek

      What’s more concerning about Stavridis is he was a potential VP for Hillary. Not surprising as he was in the know on zero footprint.

      Someone dropped a dime on him for something:

      “Based on an anonymous complaint, in early 2011 the DOD Inspector General began investigating allegations that ADM Stavridis “engaged in misconduct relating to official and unofficial travel and other matters.” He was subsequently the subject of a May 3, 2012, report by the Inspector General of the Department of Defense[21] and was later absolved of wrongdoing by the Secretary of the Navy on September 11, 2012.

      Maybe he was too busy celebrating to notice the chit shows going on in Egypt and Benghazi.

      “Stavridis earned a Master of Arts in Law and Diplomacy in 1983, and a PhD in International Relations in 1984” – O-6’s and up are loaded with politicians. 7 years of the Kenyan has driven so many good people out of the service.

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  46. wheatietoo says:

    This is stunningly impressive, Sundance.
    Thank you so much, for doing the heavy lifting on this.

    This is the most massive Coverup in the history of our country.
    You have done a truly masterful job of chronicling it…and explaining it.


  47. Jim Poteet says:

    To bad so very many “eligible” voters care so little about how their gov’t. works or does not work. To many it is simply a popularity contest, what’s in it for me, or I’m voting the same as my friends with never a clue as to the dead seriousness of elections. Our founders “lived” both sides of tyranny vs. freedom hence the magnificent US Constitution. JP


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