Confirmed – Philando Castile Was an Armed Robbery Suspect – False Media Narrative Now Driving Cop Killings…

The Falcon Heights, Minnesota police shooting of Philando Castile is based around an entirely false narrative.  Castile and Ms. Diamond Reynolds (Facebook video uploader) were pulled over by police because Castile matched a BOLO Alert for an armed robbery suspect from four days prior.

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Unfortunately, the false statements in the video – which have gone viral, and are being pushed by the mainstream media – have created a backlash against police officers.

Police officers in: Dallas (link), Tennessee (link), Missouri (link) and Georgia (link) have been Shot or killed in the past 24 hours as a result of a false narrative driven by the Black Lives Matter movement. It is important to get the truth out quickly.

Saint Anthony, MN, Police Officers Jeronimo Yanez and Joseph Kauser pulled over Mr. Castile and Ms. Reynolds because the driver, Philando Castile, matched the suspect profile in an armed robbery which occurred on July 2nd, at a convenience store, only a few blocks from where their car was pulled over.

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The armed robbery occurred on July 2nd 7:30pm (Sat).  The CCTV images were given to media and LEO by detectives on July 5th (Tuesday).  A BOLO (Be On Look Out) alert was issued the same day, Tuesday July 5th.  Philando Castile was pulled over on July 6th.

From the radio dispatch of Officer Jeronimo Yanez:

I’m going to stop a car. I’m going to check IDs.  I have reason to pull it over.”

The two occupants just look like people that were involved in a robbery. The driver looks more like one of our suspects, just ‘cause of the wide set nose.” 

A minute and a half later, the recording captures the first report that there was a shooting. (link)

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mn shooting 5Ms. Diamond Reynolds narrates the now viral Facebook video with several false statements.

Reynolds claimed they were pulled over for a broken tail light, false.

Ms. Reynolds also claims her boyfriend, Castile, was holding a concealed carry permit for a firearm that was resting on his left thigh.  This also appears to be false.

According to a question presented to the local county sheriff who oversees the Concealed Carry Permit process, Mr. Castile had never requested a concealed carry permit from their office:

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It is possible a CCP was obtained in another county, however the media are conflating “permit to purchase” with “concealed carry permit”.  For some reason the CCP ownership is being amplified; it really has no bearing and is largely irrelevant for the context of the situation.  That said, there is no factual evidence Mr. Philando Castile had a CCP.

Due to the rear facing camera option on the phone Ms. Reynolds was using, the uploaded video everyone has seen is a reversed mirror image – making it appear she was in the drivers side, and Castile was on the passenger side.  However, that impression is incorrect, Castile was driving the vehicle.  The uploaded image is reversed by Facebook Livestream Video.

However, correcting the mirror image, in part of the video it is possible to see a hand gun located on the thigh of Philando Castile.  This also appears to be why Officer Yanez repeats to Ms. Reynolds not to reach toward her boyfriend:

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This hand gun also appears to be the same type of hand gun used in the Convenience Store Armed robbery four days earlier (7/2/16):

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In addition, Mr. Castile also matched the physical description of the suspect as given by eye witnesses:

[…]  The other suspect was described as a black man with shoulder-length dreadlocks, who wore tan pants, tan shoes with white soles, a green jacket, a green baseball cap and glasses, the release says. He also had some of his hair pulled into a bun through the strap on the back of his hat and had a small mustache and facial hair on his chin. (link)

Similar clothes as noted on the robbery suspect are also noted in the Facebook images of Mr. Castile.  However, whether Mr. Castile is actually the person who committed the armed robbery is -again- essentially a moot point.  Officer Jeronimo Yanez gave the reason for the stop over the radio to his dispatcher as a possible ID on an “armed robbery suspect”:

“I’m going to stop a car. I’m going to check IDs.  I have reason to pull it over.”

“The two occupants just look like people that were involved in a robbery. The driver looks more like one of our suspects, just ‘cause of the wide set nose.” 

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(link) SIDE NOTE from the BOLO article:  “According to a press release from the St. Anthony Police Department, which contracts for police service in Lauderdale, the two robbed the Super USA store in the 2400 block of Larpenteur Avenue around 7:30 p.m., taking cash from the register and cartons of Newport cigarettes.”

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(Above is a screen grab still frame image of Diamond “Aka Lavish” Reynolds during a press conference early morning 07/07/16 –  link at 09:45)

It is with that “armed robbery suspect perspective” the approach toward the vehicle was made by officers Yanez and Kauser.

Mr. Castile, fitting the physical description, being in the same geography, generally matching the BOLO CCTV image, and then having a handgun on his thigh only made the suspicions gain exponential weight.

Any behaviors or sudden movements by Mr. Castile would only increase the anxiety and increase the officer’s perception of Castile as a threat.

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St. Anthony Police Officer Jeronimo Yanez (pictured) was identified as the patrolman who fatally shot Castile during a traffic stop.

 

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Given that police around the country are being targeted based on an entirely false premise, it is critical the truth behind the entire incident be revealed with the same veracity as the MSM narrative.   Unfortunately, lies travel around the world twice – before the truth even has time to put its boots on.

update-1Update: Having outlined the factual reason/intent for the St. Anthony officers Yanez and Kauser to initially pull over Mr. Castile and Ms. Reynolds, it should also be pointed out the timing of Diamond Reynold beginning her Live Stream Video.

As you can tell from the video she uploaded, her four year old daughter was NOT in the vehicle when Ms. Reynolds began broadcasting.  Whether her daughter was factually inside the vehicle when the shooting took place is unknown, Ms. Reynolds has never claimed that to be the case.

What is known is there was no activity to remove the child from when the video began uploading (Facebook), to when you see her daughter in the arms of an officer when Ms. Reynolds exits the vehicle (continuously live streaming).

In essence, there is a lot of time not captured between the stop, the shooting, and when Ms. Reynolds begins using her phone to broadcast the post shooting events.  [ There is footage from Yanez and Kauser’s dash-cam which should clarify this missing timeline ] Ms. Reynolds begins broadcasting AFTER her daughter was removed from the vehicle (video below for reference):

Lastly, it appears the family circle around Philando Castile is moving quickly to raise funds from the event.  There are currently at least THREE Go-Fund-Me Donation, accounts set up by entities within the familial circle, currently running to raise money:

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♦ Lavish “Diamond” Reynolds has raised $16,564 so far with a goal of $50,000

♦ The “Family” has raised $149,720 so far, exceeding their goal of $100,000.

♦ Big Sister “Allysza” has raised $55,866 so far, with a goal of $80,000.

GRAND TOTAL $222,150 raised under various Philando Castile Go-Fund-Me Accounts.

Another Self-Promoted Video Uploaded by Lavish “Diamond” Reynolds Two Days Prior To the shooting, July 4th 2016

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1,701 Responses to Confirmed – Philando Castile Was an Armed Robbery Suspect – False Media Narrative Now Driving Cop Killings…

  1. ZZZ says:

    Just got back from the range – I asked George, the DNR Officer for the range, what his thoughts were on Dallas. “They think we’re stupid” was his comment.

    Great time with my son. 🙂

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  2. Howie says:

    There is no proof that the guy had told the cop he had a gun other than this black womans word. I have not seen the cops report. Did he say the guy told him he had a gun. All I heard was he told her that he told the guy not to go for his gun. We need evidence.

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    • ZZZ says:

      he should have lived streamed it to facebook, narrated during the assault, and started a gofundme account…ah, but law abiding citizens aren’t quite with the program are they?

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    • Dixie says:

      Everybody needs to go to that link and watch the video. Not just from the standpoint of the Trump supporter but what one black lady stepped up to say which was so true. Paraphrasing, “The EDUCATION to correct this violent behavior needs to start from the womb.” Worth watching.

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  3. Hats of to the Conservative Treehouse. The truth founds it’s way out thanks to this site. The references to the facts are being posted every where. Great Job. Again!

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  4. Backspin says:

    There does not even need to be a ‘ false flag .’ If more than one bad guy , it looks like a terrorist hit job. Perhaps the standing order is to downplay / conceal attacks as a ‘ National Security ‘ excuse .
    You know , to avoid panic , deny publicity , ect. ( Nothing to hide ? – Lets see the camera footage from the parking garage and other buildings. )

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  5. CoolEdge says:

    wow … lotsa comments. Maybe this is already mentioned, but the cop was “Latino”, and his lawyer says he reacted to a gun and the display of that gun.

    An attorney for a suburban Minneapolis police officer who killed a black motorist says the officer reacted to the man’s gun, not his race.

    Minneapolis attorney Thomas Kelly told The Associated Press on Saturday that St. Anthony Police Officer Jeronimo Yanez was reacting to “the presence of that gun and the display of that gun” when he opened fire on Philando Castile.

    http://bigstory.ap.org/e3e327eacdc44b2097afa893ea6bd90a

    So it seems more likely considering that statement, that when the cop said “I told him not to reach for it” he was referring to the gun that was “displayed”. Displayed where, if not in his hand? Seems most likely now he had the gun in his lap (or waistband, but shirt would have covered it?), which seems pretty stupid.

    I’d think the police would have released this earlier to stop rioting, as well as the BOLO info. They need a rapid response for when these stories go viral (like the fake “hands up don’t shoot” narrative that survives as urban legend)

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  6. Jean BYNOG says:

    We need to stop this foolishness.Ms.Robbie (of Sweetie Pies Res.)closed her (at risk restraunt)because of riots due to”black lives matter”.Black lives matter killed innocents of EVERY race because they are out of control.
    If black lives matter,why have you condoned black police murders?Are they less black because they wear a uniform?
    PURE FOOLISHNESS because Fools feed the media.And worthless people want to loot buinesses to add to hate.

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    • flyanddive says:

      #BLM is just a front for George Soros Operation Chaos agenda. We are fighting the wrong enemy. Taking opposition to #BLM is exactly what he wants.

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      • If Congress declared war on him, and dropped the big one, I’d be grateful.

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        • Howie says:

          If the rules of procedure and evidence are followed by an impartial trier of the facts. The truth will emerge. These rules were not made overnight, but over 200 years of jurisprudence. They are not perfect, but they are the best way on earth to find the truth. Now the Administration and media seeks to shortcut the law and rush to the mob rule of social justice. This must be stopped or we will go down in flames.

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          • Stopped or matched. Technology may force society to simply do what courts have ruled repeatedly in favor of journalists under the First Amendment for years – get the facts out immediately. FOIA on steroids. Yes, cops will have to change how they do things. But I think O’Keefe nailed it about hidden camera uplinks being transformational. I’ll go further. Rapid Universal Truth is transformational.

            Cops shouldn’t fight it. They should out-think it and get ahead of it. Like scientists, they are experts on truth-finding.

            I repeat. Truth delayed is truth denied.

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      • Howie says:

        We have an adversarial system of justice. The media advocates for the left. We advocate for the right. I oppose the BLM. The media favors the BLM, BGI, and all other grievance identity groups. I oppose those ‘groups’ and advocate for unity, not diversity. I oppose social justice and like Law and Order, rules of procedure and evidence, and equal justice for all. I oppose mob rule and rushing to judgement by an Afrocentric Administration. I oppose Soros agenda. That is why I ‘take opposition’ I care less what Soros wants.

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  7. Polish Rifle says:

    Is this the same Diamond Reynolds?

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    • John Galt says:

      Gross, but yes, has to be her. Note the little girl off to the left.

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    • janc1955 says:

      Lovely “song” lyrics to go with the twerking. I’m thinking she made that for a reason. Wonder where she uploaded it?

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    • aichawallaby says:

      I don’t think so – though it’s funny. Lavish/Diamond has a large gap between her two front teeth which seems to be lacking in our twerker – going by the small thumbnail of her face.

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  8. E says:

    How did their daughter get there, if she was not in the vehicle? It can clearly be seen in the video that an officer is holding her when the order Diamond out of the vehicle at gunpoint. Are you surmising that she was walking down the road behind her parents’ vehicle and happened along the crime scene so the officer picked here up? It is absolutely plausible that the officer who has her took quick action to remove her from the vehicle after his partner shot Mr. Castile. Let’s hope the dashcam videos 1) are released and if they are 2) are unedited as Ms. Reynold’s video is, this will fill in the missing time so that is more clarity as to why Officer Yanez felt a need to put 4 bullets into a man who was of no imminent threat to him and why he felt it necessary to shoot into a vehicle occupied by a young child.

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    • Abster says:

      Kid could have been laid out on back seat and officer initially did not see her. If he saw gun, no kid, obviously, all eyes on weapon and any hand movement. Let’s just hold out for facts and evidence.

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    • CeeCee23 says:

      How do you know he wasn’t an imminent threat to the officer? Is there video proving your statement? Or are you just going by the words of the woman in her video? As for the child in the car, I do believe that the question is when was the child removed from the car and who removed her, not if she was with them in the car at the initial stop. I can tell you, as a mother, the way that woman behaved in that video is appalling to me. I would be begging for them to give me my child not calmly videoing with my dead boyfriend or husband in the car beside me. I also would never put my child at risk in any way, especially when dealing with a gun and police officer. But that’s just me I suppose.

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    • janc1955 says:

      Lose the dramatic “4 bullets” thing. It’s played out. Self-defense 101: shoot till the threat is neutralized.

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    • Esperanza says:

      Ah, that’s it. the car seat was behind Lavish. The second officer could easily have opened the door and got the child out.

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    • Josh says:

      The Officer had every reason to believe the loser was an “imminent threat”.

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  9. Philip Chin says:

    ARREST RECORD ANALYSIS

    POINT 1 of 5 – The guy in Minnesota has a really long arrest record Fifty-Five (55) Arrests! Two Minor Drug Convictions but dismissed. Probably has lots and lots of plea bargains that wiped clean his record.

    POINT 2 of 5 – With 55 traffic related arrests, isn’t he a danger to other drivers?

    POINT 3 of 5 – Many of those 55 traffic related arrest are repeated disregard for the judges and entire justice system. Hence, this criminal has proven to have no regard, or respect, for the justice system and all the judges he has encountered. Likewise, why should this criminal listen to basic commands from any police officer since he clearly has not listened to any judge.

    POINT 4 of 5 – One should consider it very odd to arrest a guy almost 55 times with of those arrest over no insurance (or driving when license revoked) as what visual signs did these police officer see to pull this guy over on the highways so many times? Hence, it was far more than driving without insurance (or while his driver’s license was revoked) and what you see on the court record is most likely a lot of plea down bargains to a lesser offense. And driving without a muffler? Wow, could anyone even hear sirens as that’s really loud?

    POINT 5 of 5 – Really knows the loopholes in the law, or has good defense attorneys, but still a big time REPEAT OFFENDER.

    SUMMARY: For around 55 times, criminal didn’t listen to judges on driving with no insurance (or driving when license revoked), hence, why should this guy listen to the police officer when pulled over this last time?

    Philando Castile: Arrest Record, Criminal History & Rap Sheet
    http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/philando-castile-criminal-record-arrest-record-police-racial-profiling-criminal-history-rap-sheet-felon-crime-falcon-heights-minnesota-police-shooting-facebook-live-video-watch-lavish-reynolds-diamond/

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    • stringy theory says:

      Good summary Philip. I think his record jibes nicely with the pics of him picked up from various social media websites. He was a “gangsta” and proud of it.

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    • rokshox says:

      Stopped some 55 times by police. Presumably he notified the officer each time that he had a permit to carry. Yet something went tragically wrong on stop 56.

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      • Esperanza says:

        I don’t believe he had a permit. No way you can get a permit driving without a permit FOR YEARS. Also with weed in the car.

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    • janc1955 says:

      55 arrests, yet people (including some here the other day), were defending him because they were mostly traffic violations.

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    • Dixie says:

      Why was he even driving at all? If we violated the law that many times, we would be walking or sitting in a prison, all cars confiscated and sold at auction by the state. At least that’s the way it works in this state and I know from experience.

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  10. geri says:

    Omg!!!!please don’t let me find out this is the truth!!!!

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  11. not for nothing, but i’ve seen numerous links to this CTH article posted on facebook, twitter, american thinker, bretibart and a few others since just this morning. have also noticed a lot of “wow i didn’t know all that info” type comments. word is getting out.

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    • stringy theory says:

      Yes, I got the same sort of responses when I emailed links to this to my friends. One said this is 100% opposite what the MSM is saying. Sundance aided by many smart Treepers has drilled down to the truth in this story. I think the media will soon be putting this story on the back pages, so to speak.

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  12. aichawallaby says:

    Man, this video has been heavily messed with. Lavish/Diamond is using it spout a narrative but it’s useless as evidence.

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    • Abster says:

      Not for purpose of fueling racial fire and fleecing those dumb enough to donate to Go Fund Me – particularly without a morsel of facts or evidence.

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    • That is the way we eventually win. Line by line, precept by precept.

      We fight them every false narrative every time. The MSM has never had to own up to the pressure of someone calling them out before, even if it is on social media.

      The old dinosaur MSM will eventually give a great big sigh and roll over. One way or the other.

      They will start telling the truth or die out.

      We will win this war, battle by battle. We have much smarter and more dedicated soldiers than the other side.

      Good job Treepers! Keep passing the truth along.

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    • Howie says:

      It will be a call as to whether or not her statements are self serving hearsay or excited utterances. But the video is evidence that can be used I think. If he was thinking he was going to be arrested again that is also evidence as to his motives I thinks. The media, The President, and BLM and the rest should wait for the evidence to come out. It is just proof that Obama is Afrocentric that he comments on it and encourages The BLM. To me that is a slam dunk on Obama motives.

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      • aichawallaby says:

        I understand what you’re saying. I guess what I’m saying is: at several points the video and audio are obviously not in sync. This video is no evidence of (at least some) things which were supposedly said at that time.

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    • Jeffrey Coley says:

      That’s what initially struck me as odd – her composure in the live stream. She seems amazingly calm for someone who just witnessed a shooting with the dying man still groaning beside her.

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  13. czarowniczy says:

    There were two shootings, we’re being told, that sparked the Dallas murders. We’re talking about the first here, allow me to comment on the Baton Rouge shooting.
    Early in the morning on 5 July a homeless man calls 911 to report that a man outside of a convenience store threatened him with a gun. Police respond and for whatever reasons, most likely because it’s a ‘man threatening with a gun’ call and there may have been hesitation in his compliance, they take him down. The short version of the video we were shown (term ‘edited’ is bring avoided) shows the guy on the ground, cops on top,of him, officer pulling his service piece and shooting prone suspect pointblank in the chest. This video was not only selectively shortened but the audio was cut out.
    Received a call from an officer I’ve known for years who saw the full video with audio and he told me that when the press starts showing the unedited true version to look and listen closely. Last night I saw it for the first time and as the officers wrestle with him, and before the officer pulls his weapon, you can hear another office in the tussle yelling ‘gun, gun’. Officer pulls his pistol, places it in the perp’s chest and you hear two shots, then more shots. Problem is that the first two shots are more muffled and slightly different sounding than the following shots leading one to think that they may be from the perp’s gun. Did the perp resist and, for whatever reason, reach into his pocket to grab his gun, accidentally or purposely firing shots, triggering (so to speak) the other officers to react?
    Suspiciously the press is reporting that the dead man was referred to as ‘a gentle giant’, which is frequently used as a PC way to refer to someone with a learning disability. Only one source has reported that the vic had also recently spent two years in prison for a weapons possession charge. It’s not all that usual for this charge to result in probation as it’s a misdemeanor, you don’t get into a two year sentence (which even then can be a misdemeanor or a felony) until there are extenuating factors. This sounds like a plea deal from a greater charge but unless someone will dig into the DA’s records we won’t know.
    The Press has also been referring to the caller as a ‘homeless’ person, using a dismissive tone as if to say the call was somehow suspect or should have been treated as such. They’ve also presented the storeowner’s statements in a light that doesn’t shine favorably on the officers even though the statements really mean nothing.
    The new, Democratic activist/populist governor didn’t help the situation when instead of issuing some cool-down, boilerplate political ‘I hear your concerns’ speech he comes out quickly and states that to him the videos are troubling. That was all the professional agitators needed.
    We have two seperate shootings by police that professional agitators have already defoned as sanctioned murder, two shootings that politically intainted investigations msy hsve shown to be justified. Two shootings by officers who’ll probably go bankrupt from the costs of defending themselves in state criminal and civil courts as well as, regardless of the states’ courts decisions, Federal court. Two shootings and a bunch of officers who will doubtfully ever receive a fair hearing due to the poisoned air two governors and a President have created, not to mention the maze of doubt and confusion the press has caused by its self-serving and biased coverage.
    I know officers who were caught up in shootings that are still reeling from the costs and personal fallout 15 years after the events. State courts freed them multiple times but pols and members of the MSM pursued punitive legal actions against them for their own reasons. It cost the taxpayers millions, shredded these officers’ lives and actually resulted in shortened sentences for other officers who’d been convicted, all for politics and revenge.
    I’m waiting to see if this same social engineering process wiil be used on the officer involved in these latest shootings. These offices’ lives, and the lives of those around them, are irrelevant to these engineers, thry are pawns in their game. Evidence has already been scrubbed and presented to the gullible public as fact; finding a clean jury is going to be a real trick, not that they’ want one. Truth is thevfirst victim, these officers will be the second.

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    • Awesome summary. The full video needs crowdsourcing and extensive analysis.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        When the link comes out I’ll post it. Sound analysis of the shots will be great help, but I have the feeling that these shootings have already served their ‘greater’ purpose as even of all officers were to be found not guilty (something that could also be repurposed to fit the engineers’ needs) you will never hear the end of their being referred to as the ‘police killings of two more black men’. It’s purpose is to be inflammatory propaganda in the cultural wars, death to America, death to truth, all in the service of The Greater Good.

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        • Agreed completely. But our side has the upper hand, for reasons that fellow Treepers can discern, but I am loathe to spell out now. 😉

          The other side is draining their clip, and they don’t have another. All we have to do is keep on keeping on, and not be stupid.

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          • czarowniczy says:

            What we need is the original video, not one that’s been rin thru the net a few times and had the sound quality attenuated.
            As I believe, we have two issues: one is the managed trials of the officers and two is use of the raw shootings as inflammatory propaganda regardless of guilt/innocence.

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          • czarowniczy says:

            This is about the best copy of the longer version:

            Listen and you will hear the first two slightly muffled shots followed by slightly louder shots. No word on whether there was gunshot residue on/in perp’s pants or on his hands.
            Then afain the engineers could just claim the reactionary racist police force planted the evidence to take the blame away from their officers.

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            • CoolEdge says:

              hard to say who shot, but just before the shots the perp does seem to be trying to get his gun out, as his shoulder goes down. He did have a gun in that pocket, he was resisting. The proper response when cops arrive is to put hands up, so cops don’t shoot. He obviously did not do that.

              One witness said the gun never came out of pocket, but if he tried to take it out (attempted murder of cop), that is a millisecond away from pulling it and killing a cop.

              They had (I think) already tazed him, so he was already not complying. Not a lot of choices when a big man (resisting arrest) is struggling to pull out his gun. They spent a lot of time on the woman reading a prepared (by activists) statement.

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              • czarowniczy says:

                First report had storeowner saying police took the gun from his pocket so we know he had a gun on him.

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                • I can hear clear as day somebody yelling that he has a gun. And this is supposed to be some case where the cops did wrong? Sheesh!!!

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  Ecut to he chase: thecGent,ecGiant could have been shooting Nuns and eating live puppies and, had the BRPD have even shoved hom a little, the BGI would have been out there screaming that the evil police arm of the Blue-eyed Devil oppressors was brutalizing him for no reason other than his race.

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              • czarowniczy says:

                Don’t think taser’s a sure thing. There are plenty of videos of perp’s who’ve been taser not going fown and continuing their assault. I’m not saying this is the case here but in their spare time perp’s in jail frequently practice taking a taser hit so they can pull the prongs out. He was also a big guy and it’s easier for a big guy to take a hit.
                I do not believe the officers shot him for the hell of it, question is ‘will the political pressures from certain groups and the activst Democrats in the state government push the investigation away from pure truth and towards a political sacrifice.

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            • ackbarsays says:

              Along that same line of thinking, it’s kind of “odd” the way that the officer who was immediately on top of Sterling sort of jumps off of him at the moment the first set of shots ring out. I hadn’t noticed that before, but it does seem to jibe with the idea that perhaps that first set of shots came from Sterling’s right hip, causing that officer to jump to get out of the way, because he certainly wouldn’t have been jumping towards the other officer’s gun if the shots had come from that gun.

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            • Jon612 says:

              I could be mistaken, but it looks like the officer with dark hair, still has his service weapon holstered as the first shot is fired. It appears that he reached for it, but did not remove it. After the sound of the first shot (before the camera turns away,) it is obvious that it was not fired by the officer (wearing hat) with his weapon out.

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            • Howie says:

              Sounds like 8 shots. Clearly hear he’s got a gun.

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    • skipper1961 says:

      czarowniczy,
      It seems a shame that the very authority that the “consenting governed” have bestowed upon OUR LEOs is so often used to virtually crucify the very same FIRST responders. Do the laws and/or rules that are used to prosecute and/or investigate LEOs vary from state to state? The reason I ask, is that in Florida, the premise and purpose of the “Castle Doctrine” began as a prevention of “frivolous” law suits filed against the “good” shooter, by the surviving family members of the “gentle giants”. Granted, I believe that the aforementioned “Doctrine” applies to civilians, I am unsure if it affords the same legal consideration for LEOs.

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      • Howie says:

        Does anyone remember the Sebblebent in the GZ case with the insooince Company. It has become an industry. If a thug is kilt by the PoPo it is like hitting the Lotto for the fambly and the BGI lawyers. They chopped up Mike Brown in to little pieces over it with autopsy after autopsy.

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        • skipper1961 says:

          I think I remember reading that Freddie Gray’s family witnessed a 5-6 million $$ payout, BEFORE any judgements or sanctions (of which I have heard of NONE so far) werew administered.

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    • janc1955 says:

      Thank you for this. I’m deeply troubled by what the officers in these situations and their families are forced to contend with, typically for years, if not the rest of their lives. Along with the larger message it sends of the persecution and devastation of hard-working, tax-paying citizens (in this case, first responders who keep us all safe) at the hands of takers, do-nothings, the liberal left, and the complicit media.

      We’ve got to figure out how to make things right again so the good guys win and the bad guys lose, as it’s supposed to be.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        I’m prejudiced ( did I hear a muffled ‘duh’?) as I spent a chunk of Katrina with an NOPD officer who deserved a medal or two for his actions. Were it not for him the reconstitution of a department that fell apart due to what can be described as criminal neglect by the city’s pols would have been far more difgicult, his actions got a large piece of it up and working, making many of the security and rescue operations that occured possible. His actions were recognized by thevMSM, many of whom were protected in their Katrina reporting by him and his reconstituted department, as well as the Fed LEA who came here and lived/ate at his headquarters. There’s a hell of a lot more to what he did and I’ve posted on it before in greater depth.
        When Katrina was over the pols who either ran away or cowered in luxurious accomodations while first respobders wallowed in filth wanted the truth reengineered. Thry took credit for singlehandedly rolling back the floodwaters and saving the city – this officer decided to setbthecrecord straight with pictures and proof as to what happened. His truth banged straight into their refabrication of what hapoened and earned him their undying enmity.
        Overbthe next 10 years he was subject to numerous politically motivated prosecutions in state and Federal court andbin every one he was found not guilty. Eric Holder even came down to make a personal appeal that the Federal jury Lynch him and his codefendants – and he was found not guilty. They’re pretty much done with him, they know they won’t get anywhere, and another LEA has hired him, the heat’s off and they aren’t that much into being blackmailed either. He’s ‘free’ but the strain and financial costs will be with hom for a long time.
        He was attacked by a coalition of the usual social engineering suspects, embarassed and vengeful politicians and the MSM. He’s a perfect example of how the courts have lost being about justice and have become tools of ‘change’ agenda.

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      • Howie says:

        Agree they shoulder too much liability in their everyday jobs.

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    • Esperanza says:

      You forgot that the guy is a convicted paedophile. Got a 14 year old pregnant.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Not forgetting, but back when the press first pulled his jacket ALL of his criminal record was there in one lump. Only now is it being sloooooowly leaked and its dissemination managed to minimize the damage it may do to his being held up as a martyr to the struggle against institutionalized racism and police violence.
        Expect press to dig up unsubstantiated rumors and innuendos about the officers involved in thevshootings as they try to portray them as bloodthirsty racists.

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  14. Not sure why I bothered spending time on Twitter trying to show that we don’t “know” facts of case yet. I do not like being called a racist, being judged based on my Twitter bio as anything other than what it states.
    My guts have been aching last 48 hours. Not enough Zantac in the world to stop this burning. Cold anger on the outside can tear me up inside. Need to turn to prayer and meditation today for guidance. I long for serenity, but know we have a long, hot Summer ahead.

    Prepare and Pray. Sundance, as always, thank you!

    Fellow Treepers/Wolverines, I have read every comment and appreciated the insight and feedback of these days.

    Trump2016🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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    • spindlitis says:

      Racist is the word that Lefties use to stop a discussion. Ignore it and keep talking.

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    • Howie says:

      Relax. We shall overcome.

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    • Let the cold anger down into your gut. It is peaceable, and sits nicely around the campfire with more uplifting spirits.

      Cold anger is sustainable. Its most important attrubute is that it wants to go away, but not until its purpose is fulfilled.

      Patience is needed. Let it become a strength.

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    • MK Wood says:

      I love it when they start calling me a racists on other media. It means I have won the argument. I then continue to dump facts on their pointy heads until they silence themselves or block me.

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    • Howie says:

      Hit them with disarming criminal gangs. Watch them run like Rabbits. We must identify and disarm all criminal gang members to MAGA. RICO is the vehicle. Trump should fire the entire DOJ and start from scratch to put all resources in to eliminating criminal gangs. Criminal Gangs are the Roots of the problems. Not law abiding citizens. Criminal Gangs are running wild with the protection of Obama, Lynch, Rynos and the GOPe. It is time for Law and Order.

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  15. There are so many odd things about this entire situation. I cannot get over how unemotional and calm the girlfriend is. This man is dying right in front of her and her first thought is to videotape it?! If someone I loved was dying in front of me, I would be crying and screaming, making every attempt I could to save his life!! In fact, the cop that shot him is showing more emotion and remorse than her! At what point did the video start? People are mad the officer let this situation escalate with a child in the car but not once do you hear the child during the scene in the car. I’m pretty confident a child in that situation would be scared to death, crying. Its not until after the girlfriend exists the car that you see the child being held by another officer.

    Of course, the “facts” stated by the girlfriend are being proven to be untrue – he wasn’t stopped for a broken taillight. It doesn’t appear he actually had a concealed weapon permit since the county he resides in has confirmed this, and reports that his permit was from differing counties.

    Too bad people can’t wait for the FACTS to come out before creating a media uproar, leading to innocent officers being murdered.

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  16. David Strait says:

    I don’t know wasn’t there either. But what gives this report any more credence than the other.We all know that cops and victims don’t lie to achieve their ends.Would’nt surprise me if all this wasn’t half truths from both sides.

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    • coeurdaleneman says:

      Huh? sundance’s material is just an early installment in a longer process that will unfolld over the following weeks or months as evidence dribbles out.

      Stay tuned. Like for other recent high-profile cases of this nature, the conservativetreehouse will remain the clearinghouse for leads, analysis, and investigation into associated matters. That is, if you are interested in more than the superficiality that the media first generates.

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      • Truth must never say it’s OK having equal time with lies. That’s how lies begin to have permanence. We reject any gentleman’s agreement on mutual half-truths. THAT is pure Obama. The genesis of corruption. The Chicago Way.

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  17. IMO says:

    TRUNEWS 07/08/16 Steve Quayle, David Lankford | Igniting a Civil War | TRUNEWS
    http://www.trunews.com/listen

    “Was Thursday’s Dallas sniper-ambush the ignition of a new American Civil War? Today on TRUNEWS, Rick Wiles will be joined by Pastor David Lankford and Steve Quayle to discuss the eerie significance of todays terror attack and the emergence of the militant Left.”

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    • stringy theory says:

      “A new American Civil War”

      I doubt it but, if it is, it will be a short one and I know which side would win.

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  18. Jeffrey Hardin says:

    Reblogged this on Jericho777 and commented:

    Well Folks……There it is.
    This Crisis has been Perfectly repurposed for the sole purpose of elevating a perpetual butt hurt and a fabricated victim mentality…..Never let a good crisis go to waste they say, and these Black Race Baiters are pros at repurposing a fabricated crisis….

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    • Travis McGee says:

      Compliments of the media. Fox did report this morning the reason he was pulled over but BOR continued the narrative last night.

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    • Howie says:

      Our first Afrocentric President will do everything he can to ensure the railroading of all these cops. His media will help in every way they can. The best hope for the cops are the rules of evidence and procedure. I would not be willing to do the job they are asked to do with the liability they face for doing it. All the cops on patrol must be nervous wrecks and stressed out thinking tat stopping a belligerent black can ruin their lives and their family. The stress on them must be immense.

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      • Jeffrey Hardin says:

        They are aiming for a federal police force to take over our State Police Forces…I read somewhere Hillary stating as much…

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    • georgiafl says:

      Election Year Black Vote Scramble aka Race Card Draw.

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  19. cara says:

    Matt Finn with a report from MN right now. Gave just what we’ve been talking about.

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  20. Loree says:

    Another one of Obastard’s fine, upstanding sons. I’m sure he was just another mis-understood young man, who went to church on a regular basis and fed the homeless….now lets get serious. A thug who robbed, cheated and lucky he lived as long as he did. I’m sure his family will buy a GOOD weave and some knock-off purses and will not have a dime left of the free money in a year

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  21. Polish Rifle says:

    Phil’s mama VALERIE CASTILE (05/30/1956) is no criminal slouch either. Her rap sheet includes 2 FELONY CONVICTIONS (SECOND DEGREE ASSAULT & FRAUDULENTLY OBTAINING PUBLIC ASSISTANCE) as well as MISDEMEANOR CONVICTIONS for PROSTITUTION, THEFT (X3), DUI and PUBLIC NUISANCE. She is quite familiar with a jail/prison cell.

    Take a gander for yourself: http://pa.courts.state.mn.us/default.aspx

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  22. coeurdaleneman says:

    Oh, brother. Some basement dwelling turkey named Dan Evon misrepresents sundance’s article at snopes. Typical for that prog propaganda site:

    http://www.snopes.com/philando-castile-was-not-wanted-for-armed-robbery/

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    • Typical Snopes “adjacent strawman defense”.

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    • Howie says:

      Nobody said he was. He just matched the BOLO.

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    • Burnt Toast says:

      “Suspect” does not mean what Snopes thinks it means.

      Snopes thinks it means the person known to have committed a crime… which is one reason why we have the phrase “person of interest” now.

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      • CoolEdge says:

        good point, wikipedia clarifies pretty well. “The distinction between suspect and perpetrator recognizes that the suspect is not known to have committed the offense, while the perpetrator—who may not yet have been suspected of the crime, and is thus not necessarily a suspect—is the one who actually did. The suspect may be a different person from the perpetrator, or there may have been no actual crime, which would mean there is no perpetrator.”

        Castile was suspected of being the perpetrator because he was a close match to the BOLO. If only for the moment, that makes him suspect.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspect

        yeah, snopes has long ago exposed strong bias, much like “Politifact” turns a fully true statement into “mostly false” if it does not promote their PC liberal narrative. WaPo also turned Giuliani’s statement about something like 93% of blacks murdered are murdered by other blacks, into “mostly false”, because they thought he should have given more (PC liberal) context to that correct statistic. They are shameless liars.

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    • Josh says:

      Seriously, no one should take Snopes seriously.

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  23. KenH says:

    The only problem is that BLM and their flock don’t read this site and even if they did are intent on believing the false narrative of murderous white cops bent on harming innocent blacks. I believe the media dropped these incidents on us and spun the coverage to energize the left for the 2016 election, encourage blacks to harm whites and use further gun violence as a means to help the Demoncrats push gun confiscation. FOX’s O’Reilly has joined the left in calling for the government to ban certain guns like the AR-15.

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    • Howie says:

      So will the rest of the RINOS. Bet the ranch.

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    • West Highlands says:

      I believe this has been said before in this forum, but O’Reilly also stated on his show Friday night, and I am paraphrasing here, that Castile’s death was all because of a broken tail light. So much for his much-touted “crack” research team.

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    • Ignore BLM and the racially inclined “true believers”. We need to put out truth for the “believe truthers”.

      BLMers can’t be changed. Don’t try. Trump knows that the wakable majority will severely outnumber the illogical idiots, and America will go back to sanity.

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    • Backspin says:

      I think I read that the gun used was an SKS , not that the press knows the difference.
      Or cares. Will look for link.

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  24. deqwik2 says:

    Update. The Fox reporter just said he went back & looked at the video & there are certain freeze frames that may indicate a gun on Castile’s lap & that he mentioned it to the officer’s attorney. The attorney said it very well could be. Yeah ! Now the attorney knows to look for it.

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  25. Diane D says:

    Thank you sundance. Based on what you are saying I am withholding judgement.

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    • Howie says:

      Everyone should. Especially the POTUS and BLM and The AG and The MSM and The Black Carcass and the NAACP.

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  26. Donna Suarez says:

    SEEMS strange how she was able to pull out her phone and record and then pretend to cry and then not cry….Are you kidding me. I see this shit all the time. Guess they forgot to mention he is a robbery suspect. The media never gets the full story before they report the news. The media needs to be responsible. Listen how she can say Chinese but if the officer said BLACK it would be a problem.
    Then she says how he didnt say he had the gun…

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  27. Sharon Petersen says:

    I think the quote from Scripture is so fitting. I am now thinking of a police officer who came to my parent ‘ s house when my 98 year old Dad was having a terrible dementia attack. This wonderful officer helped my Mom get my Dad in bed for the night. It was not an easy job, trust me, but I will never forget his compassion for my parents.

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  28. Sundance, your going to get a Heisman Trophy award before it’s over I think….
    Your featured on American Thinker Now… http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/07/narrative_starts_to_fall_apart_in_minnesota_police_shooting.html

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  29. Jeffrey Coley says:

    I think this coverage is OUTSTANDING. The only weak link, though, is connecting the stolen carton of Newport cigarettes to the pack Lavish is holding. Nearly all black people who smoke, smoke Newport. It’s like saying a Mexican stole some tortillas and then showing a photo of him eating a burrito.

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    • Howie says:

      True but it is a clue. If the pack could be matched to the stolen cartons. A clue but not evidence….yet.

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    • ccz says:

      Your comment is supported by:

      The Atlantic Magazine (March 25, 2011)
      “Mint That Kills: The Curious Life of Menthol Cigarettes”

      Tom McNichol

      Currently, 80 percent of African American smokers prefer menthol cigarettes, and blacks are four times more likely than whites to choose menthols.

      No one really knows how African Americans came to prefer menthol cigarettes in the first place. But relentlessly targeted marketing campaigns locked the preference in place, part of what Phillip Gardiner, a research scientist at the Tobacco Related Disease Research Program at the University of California calls the “African-Americanization of menthol cigarette use.”

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  30. Howie says:

    Regardless if the suspect had a CCP it is not a defense for his actions. In fact, if he did have one he should know the rules better than a person who does not.

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  31. brcajun says:

    I have noticed nothing on the cable channels stating these results and none on the www about this except CTH. Too bad they don’t spend the hours and days touting this off! Americans are starting to have enough of this tyranny! Mr. Trump is our very last chance to turn things around!

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    • cara says:

      Matt Finn of FX, MN has been reporting for Fox and yes, his reports have appeared on the net. I saw his last one a couple of hours ago.

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  32. Howie says:

    Was he listed in the criminal gang investigation system?

    What are the requirements for getting a permit to carry?
    Must be at least 21 years of age
    Must complete an application form
    Must not be prohibited from possessing a firearm under Minnesota Statute 624.714
    Must not be listed in the criminal gang investigation system
    Must be a resident of the county from which you are requesting a permit, if you reside in Minnesota. Non-residents may apply to any Minnesota county sheriff.
    Must provide certificate of completed authorized firearms training. Training by a certified instructor must be completed within one year of an original or renewal application. (624.714, Subd. 2a)
    https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=624.714

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  33. Esperanza says:

    Sundance, I have a new point.

    According Castile’s parents he still no licence, right?

    That would come up for Castile’s licence plate right? (I’m not a car person).

    But Reynold’s said ‘You told him to get his ID, sir, his driver’s license,” Therfore cannot be true. Why would the officer ask for a licence he knew did not not exist?

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  34. Abby says:

    Very very interesting. Also interesting is how she keeps changing her story on how many times he was shot. “Sir, you just put four bullets into him.” Then later, “Sister, call me. They just shot my boyfriend three times for no reason. Blah blah blah………..then they shot him four or five times.”

    Something else interesting to note is how fantastic of an actress the girlfriend is. So easily flipping back and forth between crying for the benefit of the camera, then speaking very calmly with the police, with no quiver in her voice. “Oh dear god (crying) please Lord wrap your arms around him (more crying) please Lord you know we’re innocent (wailing).” Mere seconds later, “Oh, officer (totally calm and not a single tear in the voice at all) could you get my phone for me? It’s on the floor. It’s right there on the floor. (completely calm and collected).

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  35. lou says:

    Snopes is trying to counter SD’s claims by saying mostly false, but it seems like they have much less info.
    http://www.snopes.com/philando-castile-was-not-wanted-for-armed-robbery/

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    • Sentient says:

      Sundance didn’t say he was wanted for robbery.

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      • Howie says:

        Snopes is incompetent and liberal.

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        • mimbler says:

          Yes, and they are trying to diminish the effective of CTH by proving false things that were never claimed here.
          And saying he was not a suspect in the robbery while saying that he was pulled over because they suspected he might be the robber (I know I am paraphrasing here for effect!) is really overly parsing things.
          Mike

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  36. czarowniczy says:

    Czarina reminded me of another example of mental and moral gymnastics in the pursuit of The Agenga.
    Back before Katrina there was a certain, heavily black area of New Orleans that was particularly crime sotted. Black ministers and politicians raised hell with the City Council, mayor and press about how he city didn’t care about the poor black folk, city just let the police district go all to hell as it was black and poor.
    The city and NOPD took a young, black and extremely qualified (also college educated and a Marine) officer and placed him in charge of the district. The officer spent a few months getting to know the district intimately then implemented a program of saturating street corners and areas around bars with bars officers; the saturations targeted known trouble areas/bars between about 1 and 5 AM. Crime plummeted, dozens of wanted felons were taken off the street and a truckload of illegal guns were confiscated.
    You’d think the black pols and ministers would be pleased that crime in the hood was lower than it had been in years…think again. They complained to everyone and anyone that this district commander was intimidating and harassing young black men for just standing in the streets. Standing in the streets just before dawn by or in high crime areas for sure, but this was unconstitutional harassment of otherwise innocent black men.
    The young comander was rellieved of his command and moved to another job, crime went bavk to its previous levels and the usual complainers went back to making their usual complaints.

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    • Howie says:

      A Gun Control Law I could buy would be to stop any member of a criminal gang from having any firearm. Wonder if Obozo would go for that or does he just want to grab the guns of law abiding white people. Are you starting to see a pattern here?

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      • Howie says:

        Due process would require each criminal gang member notified he or she was going to be designated as a member. Unlike the no fly list where no one is notified and no hearing is available. The person could make his/her case that they are not a member of the gang. This would include all criminal gangs of any race. This is the place to start. See: Chicago. If the criminal gangs were disarmed and the law abiding citizens armed it would make america safe again.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Another piece of info that’s disappeared down the rabbit hole: 1996 and 1997′ two seperate incidents of the Chinese government trying to smuggle hundreds of FULLY, NOT SEMIauto wapons into the US. First attempt was a huge shipment of disassembled M2 carbines and M16s we’d given to the South Vietnamese durind the war. Second attempt was conex boxes full of fullauto Norinco AK-47s. Now who do you think tney were bound for? Chinese were aghast that criminal elements in China would do such a thing but if you know how the Norinco arms segment works, never mind the weapons being shipped across and out of China on Chinese ships, you know that’s pure BS.
        How about them weapons in Mexico and Central America? When they are captured and traced by Latino and US intel you don’tbhear where thryvare from…unless it’s US sources. Sorta like that AK used in the Paris attack allegedly being tracked back to a Fast and Furious transaction…
        No guns for you mouthbreather, you might shoot back.

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    • lastConservinIllinois? says:

      This is what has gone on – and on, and on, and …. – in Chicago for decades now (minus the Marine officer).

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Let’s go back to ground zero – money. The Mexican cartel drug hub in Chicago was responsible for distribution throughout the Midwest and earned more in cash, yearly, than the Chicago Mercantile Exchange did. How do you run something that large and illegal, for years, under Rahm and Obama hometown boyz, without being busted? Howvdo you move that quantity of drugs through Chicago and HTF do you move billiobs of dollars around through our closely monitored national/international banking system? Let’s ask Rahm and the POtuS (no I don’t know which is whom):

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  37. John Gardner says:

    For information: concealed carry permits are issue by county sheriffs and are valid anywhere in the state. So, that fact that his locality sheriff’s office didn’t issue one does not mean he did not possess one.

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    • Howie says:

      One must ‘reside ‘ in the county where the CCP is applied for. Where did Castile reside. One can not be listed in the gang database and get a CCP. I think this person was a Crip. Crips are listed as a criminal gang in Minnisoooota.

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  38. Nettles18 says:

    Officer Jeronimo Yanez talked with State investigators 15 hours after the shooting. I recall in the Zimmerman case, Police Unions advised to wait 72 hours to get over the shock and collect yourself to be able to give a factual recount. Officer Yanez’s lawyer, Thomas Kelly, gave a statement to the press today. Kelly says the gun played a role, not Castile’s race in the shooting.

    “St. Anthony Police Officer Jeronimo Yanez was reacting to “the presence of that gun and the display of that gun” when he opened fire on Philando Castile, Minneapolis attorney Thomas Kelly told The Associated Press. He declined to elaborate on how Castile displayed the weapon or what led up to the deadly traffic stop.”

    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/apnewsbreak-cops-lawyer-blames-drivers-gun-not-his-race/ar-BBu87Uk?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartanntp

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    • Howie says:

      Does matching the description of a suspect amount to probable cause for detainment and/or arrest?
      Reasonable Suspicion. This is developed from specific and itemized evidence. In your scenario above, “matching the description” is pretty vague. If you’re a white male and that’s the only description of my robbery suspect, I don’t have enough for detention. I can ask if you’ve seen anything awry, but I would have to play by the rules of the hunch. Now, if my description is a white male, over six feet tall, wearing khaki pants and a black jacket, and you’re a white male, 6’3, wearing sandy colored corduroy pants and a navy blue jacket, I’ve likely got reasonable suspicion to detain and identify you.

      https://www.quora.com/Does-matching-the-description-of-a-suspect-amount-to-probable-cause-for-detainment-and-or-arrest

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      • Jeffrey Coley says:

        A politically correct news outlet in Asheville, NC (hippie town) reported a robbery and the only description they would give is “5 boys approx. 15-17 years of age”. No race, no physical characteristics, or clothing, nothing else. Local talkshow host said he was calling in the schoolbus that just rolled by, it was full of suspects matching the description.

        Another good one the same news outlet: Suspect in this case was a bearded white man, 50-60 years old, “scruffy and unkempt” with strong body odor. Smelly scruffy old hippie only describes EVERYBODY in that town.

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  39. James F says:

    The attorney for Officer Yanez, Tome Kelly must hace seen proof for the ccw permit.

    Castile) had a permit to carry a gun,” Kelly said. “The officer did not know that at the time of the shooting, and he did not know with any certainty whether the gun was present with a permit or not a permit. Regardless of whether it was permitted or not, the actions of Mr. Castile and his failure to comply with directions from Officer Yanez was what led to this.”

    http://www.fox9.com/news/172206334-story

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  40. tony says:

    so are placing bets on how much money will be for his kids or once its all collected there will a squabble for who gets some.

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  41. Frankly I didn’t see this as a racist issue. I saw this as an “OMG what are the police force getting trained with these days?” issue, and still a very serious issue. As long as this is a race issue the real problem will not get fixed. Cops need to get more used to civilians having guns, even touching their guns, and learn not to discharge their own weapons until the civilian already has the gun in hand is lifting it to initiate a discharge. Until the civilian is HOLDING the gun and has begun to RAISE the gun, the officer’s discharge is WHOLLY INAPPROPRIATE. They should only discharge when the clear observation has been made that a gun has already been acquired. But that is not how they are trained. They are trained to unload upon anyone who is simply equipped to become an immediate risk, regardless of the proximity and legitimacy of the risk presented in the circumstances.

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    • Howie says:

      Wait for the facts.

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    • lizzieintexas says:

      Really? Seriously? If you are serious then you should go through PD training and go out and patrol and walk the street. Walk in their shoes before criticising.

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    • John Galt says:

      “Until the civilian is HOLDING the gun and has begun to RAISE the gun, the officer’s discharge is WHOLLY INAPPROPRIATE.”

      100% false and a recipe which would result in a lot of dead cops.

      https://www.policeone.com/Officer-Safety/articles/3705348-New-reaction-time-study-addresses-whats-reasonable-in-armed-suspect-encounters/

      “You are confronting an armed suspect, no cover available. He faces you, with his gun at his side, pointed at the ground. Your gun is aimed at him and you’re ready to shoot. He ignores your commands to drop his weapon.

      Are you justified in pulling the trigger before he makes any move to point his gun at you?

      According to conclusions reached by researchers in a unique new reaction-time study, your preemptively shooting under such circumstances may well be considered reasonable by the standards of Graham v. Connor.

      If the offender suddenly points his gun in your direction, you are highly unlikely to get a shot off to defend yourself before he shoots, the researchers documented. Even under ideal circumstances, you probably can fire no faster than simultaneously with the attacker.”

      “Analysis showed that the suspects on average were able to fire in just 0.38 second after initial movement of their gun. Officers fired back in an average of 0.39 second after the suspect’s movement began.”

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      • Howie says:

        The gun appears to be in his lap under his T shirt. The cop said he told him not to go for his gun. He went for the gun. At least the cop is alive to face the fury of the Obama Afrocentric Administration.

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      • nwtex says:

        All it takes is a blink of an eye.
        ~~~~
        Gun Owners of America shared a video.
        October 17, 2013
        Watch the video before reading the text!

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    • Josh says:

      Jon Davis (Stimpy77), this has got to be the winner of The Moronic Comment of the thread. You may have tried my patience with this comment alone.

      {breath, Josh, breath}

      Jon Davis (Stimpy77), go take a course in how to handle a gun from a licensed gun range. After you’ve taken the course and have shot a few rounds, you will understand what a moronic comment you’ve made. That is as nice as I can be about this.

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  42. douglas says:

    Obviously you missed the part where the officer says he has a reason to pull them over. That reason being a broken tail light. You can’t pull him over because he looked like a suspect.

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    • nimrodman says:

      “You can’t pull him over because he looked like a suspect”

      I “suspect” you don’t know what you’re talking about.

      See Howie’s comment and link not far upthread.

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    • Josh says:

      Douglas,

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      • jello333 says:

        “You can’t pull him over because he looked like a suspect.”

        ???!!! Uh… wha… what… umm… I, I, I just…. ah… wow, this has me stuttering like Obama, trying to come up with some intelligent response.

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  43. bzz says:


    Check out the hat…and the one in the robbery.

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  44. rsanchez1990 says:

    I used to think that false flag was a crazy conspiracy theorist thing. Now it seems like they happen every week. And we have a president that divides people along racial lines every time events like this happen.

    What a terrible state our country is in.

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  45. nimrodman says:

    So there are many stories that Yanez’s attorney has “released a statement”, but nowhere can I find the actual statement. There are excerpted sentences immediately interrupted by analysis or context setting.

    So there’s apparently a “statement” out there to be had, but I haven’t located it in 10-15 minutes of keyword searching. Maybe someone else can do better.

    Here’s one of the more lengthy articles on it:

    http://kstp.com/news/st-anthony-police-officer-jeronimo-yanez-attorney-thomas-kelly-bureau-of-criminal-apprehension-philando-castile-officer-involved-shooting-fatal/4194371/

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  46. Bryce T says:

    I don’t know either way if that’s Castile or not — looks a bit similar but I can’t say for sure. And I’m assuming we’ll find out soon enough if he mentioned the gun before reaching into his pocket for his license. However, I wouldn’t be so sure the “busted tail light” thing is a lie from Diamond. Keep in mind, the officer only thinks it MIGHT be the armed robbery suspect. He said it looks like it could be one of them, so I think it’s possible he used the busted tail light as an excuse to pull the vehicle over.

    I do think there’s a lot we don’t know.

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  47. tavuka2 says:

    Was the vehicle the robber used the same as the one he was driving?

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  48. Snopes.com says the report that Philando Castile was an armed robbery suspect is false and mentioned Conservative Treehouse specifically. I’m a regular visitor to CTH and want to know is Snopes wrong? Perhaps I am not the only reader who has posted this.

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    • Howie says:

      The Dopes at Snopes are wrong. The officer thought he was a suspect. That is not in the purview of the liberal morons at Snopes to avow or disavow. Snopes are Dopes. CTH has a track record of finding out the truth.

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    • John Galt says:

      Philando Castile was indeed an armed robbery suspect as documented by the police radio traffic. Of course you would know that if you had bothered to read the thread prior to posting.

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    • Josh says:

      In time you will learn that Snopes is not to be trusted.

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  49. sassymemphisbelle says:

    the whole permit issue, as sundance noted earlier, is completely MOOT. mr castille failed to follow the officer’s directions and for that reason ,and that reason only, is now dead. mr castille, according to his police record, was well aware of how to act after being stopped by the police as he survived each stop until now. his death is his own fault, there isnt anyone to blame but him.

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    • Howie says:

      But it has been proffered by the GF. It has been reported all over the Newz. It must be refuted.

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