“The Most Consistent Conservative”? Ted Cruz 2011 -vs- 2015 on Birthright Citizenship

Senator Ted Cruz entire campaign is built around his projection as “the most consistent conservative”.  This video does not show consistency.  The topic is “birthright citizenship”:

Apparently the U.S. Constitution became much more flexible between 2011 and 2015.

This entry was posted in Election 2016, Notorious Liars, Ted Cruz, Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink.

483 Responses to “The Most Consistent Conservative”? Ted Cruz 2011 -vs- 2015 on Birthright Citizenship

  1. Jay says:

    The only difference between Cruz and Obama is we know for sure Cruz was not born in the United States. How is this NOT a problem?

    Liked by 8 people

    • Doodahdaze says:

      A most important fact in the timeline. 2005 when he “applies” for US citizenship. If true he is 100% ineligible.

      Liked by 4 people

      • booger71 says:

        I thought that was Daddy. As far as I know, Ted has never applied for citizenship.

        Like

      • Ivyredneck says:

        There is more to the comparison between Cruz and Obama than questions about their being natural-born Americans. Did they both have fathers that supported Marxism? Wasn’t Rafael Cruz Sr. arrested in Cuba in the 1950s (before the revolution) for supporting Castro’s insurgency?

        If that is true, then it would also explain why Cruz Sr. did not apply for U.S. citizenship until 2005; back in the 1970s, when I applied for U.S. citizenship as a Cuban refugee, I had to attest on the form that I had never been a Communist. That seized to be an issue by 2005 because by then there was no Soviet empire left.

        Senator Rafael (“Ted”) Cruz could clear all of this up, including whether both his mother and his father were Canadian or American when he was born in Canada in 1970, by making a full disclosure of all the documents relating to this issue. Americans deserve to know who Ted Cruz really is.

        Liked by 4 people

      • Jenny R. says:

        Most interesting thing in the timeline: Rafael Cruz’ green card and when he decided to up and move to Canada….why not get your citizenship, you wouldn’t be high on the draft lottery with a wife (and kids? he did have kids already, correct?); and I’ve known a lot of immigrants who didn’t have a problem fighting for their new country…new patriotism and all…

        Like

        • Michael Chan says:

          I will let the power to be to decide if Cruz is a natural born citizen. My lack of support for Cruz is not on his platform but on the fact that he just denounced his Canadian citizenship and claimed to be an American 18 months ago. I have been a U.S. citizen for almost 50 years and gave up my British citizenship over 45 years ago. So, it does not sound like he is an U.S. loving individual until now that he is running for president. Also I heard that you need to submit the paper work to do the switch and has not?? These are my concern and will not vote for him even if I can as I am closer to the Demo. platform. Sanders has a combined elements of Trump and Hillary and I think American want someone with out of the box thinking, willing to challenge the known sysyem, and not tied to so many lobbyist, and or bribes and owing favors or having to pay back their supporters. I think Sanders is going to win.

          Like

      • upaces88 says:

        EXACTLY!!

        Like

    • hocuspocus13 says:

      What decides if your an American Citizen is who your parents are

      Like

    • sammyhains says:

      0bama’s experience is that of a slick-talking Constitutional lawyer.
      Ted Cruz’s experience is that of a slick-talking Constitutional lawyer.

      0bama was only in the Senate for 2 years before he started running for President.
      Ted Cruz was only in the Senate for 18 months before he started running for President.

      The same people supporting Cruz today that are claiming he is “imminently qualified” said that 0bama was “dangerously unqualified” in 2008.

      Liked by 3 people

    • upaces88 says:

      He only gave up his Canadian citizenship when he decided to run for POTUS.

      Like

  2. pyromancer76 says:

    No one who seals their records in any way should be eligible for election to any office, period. Apply This Principle retroactively and it goes for the current POTUS as well. President Donald should be able to nullify everything the former pretender touched because he was not eligible — once the new President declares This Principle “law of the land” by “Executive Action”.

    Liked by 8 people

  3. I’m sure everyone’s seen this but Trump is launching missiles on multiple targets, Hillary’s women problem

    https://t.co/kmayp807Al

    Liked by 3 people

  4. Putting the eligibility issue aside looking at cruz all you have is a flip flopper who is over all weak no way he can take down Hillary and these cruz supporter’s still think he is dreamy its mind boggling to me they want to ruin this race for everyone by voting for cruz who can’t win.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Sentient says:

      It’s one thing to change your mind on an issue (or many issues). It’s another thing altogether to change your position (like on whether the Constitution mandates birthright citizenship) yet claim that you’ve never changed at all. It means you’re a liar, but it’s also just plain weird. Does Cruz not think there are videos of him?

      Liked by 6 people

    • stringy theory says:

      snaggletooth, I agree that Cruz has a multitude of problems, but saying “putting that aside” regarding his eligibility to be POTUS is a bit like saying: “Other than that, Mrs. Kennendy, did you enjoy the parade?”

      Liked by 3 people

    • Toronto Tonto says:

      They aren’t Cruz supporters. Hillary and Jeb supporters want Cruz. Jeb thinks he can win the conservative contest with his record. Hillary is salivating over Cruz as the nominee.

      Liked by 3 people

      • I really doubt she is actually. Right now, according to RCP rolling average, Hillary Clinton and Ted Cruz are tied while Donald Trump trails by nearly 5 percent. Ted Cruz would be a much tougher opponent because he knows the Constitution very well, has argued nine cases in front of the Supreme Court, and Ted Cruz would be Hillary’s worst nightmare as her opponent in Presidential debates.

        Like

        • Raymond, the debate will not be about the Constitution, as important as that is. It will be about whatever the dominant personality makes the topic. Trump first created the topics for discussion among Republicans, and now he is defining the parameters of the General Election by forbidding Hillary access to her war-on-women propaganda.

          Cruz is ideologically rigid, like Goldwater, and not a populist – like Reagan.

          His self appointed and sanctimonious support of the Constitution will place him in the minority corner and Hillary will do what Democrats always try to do or actually accomplish – describe Republicans as a minority that does not understand or appreciate the majority.

          Democrats are the majority party and verge toward mob rule and mass democracy – dictatorship of the majority. A patriotic populist can counter this, an intellectual ideologue can not. Trump’s unusual street sense must be a waking nightmare to Hillary.

          #LoseWithCruz

          Like

  5. Paco Loco says:

    Raising the issue of Cruzes eligibility was the proper thing for Trump to do. The RNC should have vetted all candidates so that there would be no legal challenges to the presidential nominee. So the RNC is really complicit in this and either doesn’t care about the legality of its candidates or they are hoping for a Cruz or Rubio nomination, only to see it scuttled by a law suit by Alan Grayson et al. I.e. uniparty dirty tricks. I’m becoming extremely cynical about the whole election process especially since Obama’s legality to be POTUS has never been resolved in a court of law…see Orly Taitz web site. The countries political process is being undermined by not having a difinitive ruling by the Supream Court as to who is a ” natural born citizen” and who isn’t. My opinion and yours doesn’t really matter until there’s a final adjudication by the SCOTUS.

    Like

    • Doodahdaze says:

      McLame would have been the only one who could file against Obama.

      Like

    • sixgeese says:

      ‘ruling by the Supreme Court as to who is a ” natural born citizen”.’ I think it is best for the Supreme Court not to rule at this time, lest such a ruling be too much influenced by current political expediency. Obama clearly has issues in international matters; for example I doubt that most Americans would have felt it necessary to return Churchill’s statue. Similarly, Rubio and Cruz probably have feelings about relations to Cuba that may not be in tune with how most Americans feel. It is best to have a president that can evaluate America’s national interests without special personal attachments. Perhaps there will be a time when we can rely on the Supreme Court to understand this.

      Liked by 1 person

    • stringy theory says:

      I think the RNC probably hoped Cruz would take out Trump then the GOPe and their string-pullers would take out Cruz giving us jebita.

      Liked by 3 people

    • SharonKinDC says:

      You know, people who filed suit for Obama were deemed not to have standing. Maybe Republican citizens need to file against the RNC for negligence and fraud for not vetting and screening out ineligible candidates.

      Liked by 2 people

  6. Brad says:

    The BEST part about this is Millions of Americans are learning that Ted Cruz was born in Canada and not in the United States. Many assumed he was born in Texas or Florida. Even if he is eligible it doesnt matter. Just like MOST Americans are not okay with their President to be a Muslim, MOST Americans want their President to be born in the USA. This will be a major hit for Cruz. Rubio comes next and Trump will tie Rubio into this wormhole once the Cruz threat is destroyed

    Liked by 5 people

    • Doodahdaze says:

      He is a Goat Roper.

      Liked by 1 person

    • I knew Cruz was born in Canada to what I thought was an American mother and a Cuban refugee father. It was big news to me that Ted Cruz’s father was a Fidel Castro SUPPORTER and that was why he had to leave Cuba in 1957. I had assumed he was fleeing the Castro regime. The more I learn about Ted Cruz the more questions I have about him.

      Liked by 2 people

  7. Paco Loco says:

    …and goat ropers need love too!

    Like

  8. There actually is an easy way to interpret the intent of our Founders and define the literal meaning of the “natural born citizen” requirement in Article II.

    First of all, we have voluminous writings and correspondences by our Founding Fathers. On the subject of foreign entanglements and the nature of the Executive Branch, these writings overwhelming favor a native or “natural” born president.

    For example:

    John Jay wrote in a letter to George Washington dated 25 Jul 1787:

    “Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen. “

    As for the “natural born citizen” term itself, it came from one source and one source alone – Emerich de Vattel, author of “Law of Nations”. The concept did not exist before Vattel and the definition of the term was proprietary to Vattel and Vattel alone.

    Vattel was a rock star in his time, he was a central figure in the “Age of Enlightenment”. He was widely-read by our Founders. He was so famous at that time that when our Founders inserted his principle of “natural born citizen” into Article II, it was almost certain they assumed that the meaning of term was so commonly known that there was no need to define it further.

    Vattel defined “natural born citizen” as a native birth to two citizen parents.

    This is really a no-brainer. The only people who pretend that this issue is not settled have ulterior motives. But the intent of the Founders is clear from their writings, and the definition of the term “natural born citizen” came from one source and one source alone – Emerich de Vattel.

    There exists NO alternate meaning or secondary source of the “natural born citizen” concept.

    Liked by 6 people

    • Jett Black says:

      Vattel=Occam’s Razor. You’re absolutely right and this simple, clear solution is being obfuscated by those who would destroy this nation, its Constitution and laws. Sadly, I have little faith that SCOTUS would be intellectually and historically honest about this. I pray they will and that they will get this right and soon, so the depredations of the previous 7.5 yrs can be invalidated and put in the garbage where it all belongs.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Doodahdaze says:

      The very same people who rightly questioned Obama now blow this off. Not good.

      Liked by 6 people

      • stringy theory says:

        They’re like ducks, every day is a new day.

        Like

      • Jenny R. says:

        It does (or will) make the Republicans/conservatives look like hypocrites — and the Democrats will bring it up. How many people will then be soured and switch to the Dems? Even Hillary.
        A Cruz nomination will assure Hillary in the White House and more hostility towards her opposition (as they will be seen as liars and hypocrites themselves, two things leveled against her, quite rightly).
        This would be a disaster for our country.

        Liked by 2 people

    • Serpentor says:

      “Vattel defined “natural born citizen” as a native birth to two citizen parents.”

      I believe this is the logical definition and should be codified. But of course it would have to be after Obama. Let there be no doubt with this definition.

      Liked by 4 people

      • Wendy Forward says:

        Seems so but good luck with codification of anything sensible and nationalist these days.

        Liked by 1 person

      • yohio says:

        Exactly very simple! I know this maybe a little different cause involves Cruz mom. I’m just tired of seeing students my wife teaches four girls from Palestine one family arranged marriage at 15. They send back to middle east, ALL come back at 7-8 months pregnant and have baby and leave again. It’s been six boys three girls, mothers not over 20. You are telling me all these children are citizens and can be President. Ridiculous!!!!!!

        Liked by 2 people

        • About Cruz’s mother…

          A couple weeks ago as I began to research the Cruz family from the late 1950’s – “Ted’s” birth, I began to have grave suspicions about the biography we were being given. That family was a total mess. There are multiple step-siblings from various combinations of parents, separations, LOTS of drinking, and on and on.

          On a hunch, I began a process of contacting the State of Delaware to see what i could find out about Cruz’s mother, Eleanor Darragh Wilson. At first, I found nothing and thought nothing of it. But that bothered me a little, so the next Monday (Dec. 21) I called the Dept. of Vital Statistics. I was assured that there were NO BIRTH RECORDS on file for Cruz’s mother.

          Fast-forward to last Monday… I sent a registered letter formally requesting confirmation that there were no records on file re: the birth of Eleanor Darragh Wilson c. 1935 +/-.

          If I get a letter officially confirming what I have already found on my own, I will post it here before blanketing Breitbart with it.

          Stay tuned…

          Liked by 5 people

    • coltlending says:

      Levin was really pooh poohing the “Natural Born Citizen” class destinction today. He was all Cruz is a legit presidential candidate.

      That is really aggravating to me because, the consensus seems to be, the meaning of “Natural Born Citizen” as never been fleshed out, affirmed by the SCOTUS where a presidential candidate is concerned and I’d darn well should be, by now.

      Although, I can see the concern of those who point out the make up of the current court.

      Common sense tells me it means born on U.S. soil by two citizens of the USA.

      Like

  9. bertdilbert says:

    Hey, Cruz is a good lawyer, he will vehemently defend whatever position he is thrust into and make a convincingly good show of it.. It works, just so long the jury box is always filled with new people and you don’t get repeat jurors.

    Like

  10. aBirdToldMe says:

    Wait a minute. What is going on? If this goes to court and Cruz IS Eligible, than so will thousands of Jihadis born in the Middle East. How is this good? This is an awful precedent

    Liked by 2 people

    • georgiafl says:

      Cruz is NOT eligible and Trump knows it – he is toying with Cruz…like a cat with his prey.

      Liked by 5 people

      • georgiafl says:

        BTW – I have joined the Legions of the Banned at RS for posting the Cruz citizenship Timeline.

        IMO – RS, Levin and the true colors of many others will be revealed by their positions on Cruz citizenship.

        QUOTE from the Timeline:
        As of February 4, 2015 – No evidence of any US Citizenship has been released to confirm anything at all about the true citizenship status of Ted Cruz.

        Because Ted Cruz has been confirmed a legal citizen of Canada up until renouncing his Canadian citizenship in May of 2014, and because he has been confirmed a citizen of Canada at birth, and because his father is on public record stating that he and his wife became citizens of Canada during their eight years living in Canada and because Rafael Cruz remained a citizen of Canada until he renounced and applied for legal US citizenship in 2005, there is simply NO WAY that Ted Cruz was, is or ever can be a ‘natural-born Citizen’ of the United States eligible for the offices of President or Vice President.

        So, does this mean that members of the Tea Party are engaged in an overt effort to defraud Tea Party members who are Ted fans, by all this legal fancy footwork?

        The facts are all well documented. You decide….

        One who inherits their Citizenship at birth via nature alone, from their natural birth Father, is a natural born Citizen of the United States. According to all available information on Ted Cruz and his family, Cruz was a native born citizen of Canada and not a natural born Citizen of the United States. No, Ted is either not too bright or not too honest…But he is at least one of the two…and what about the Tea Party leaders behind this legal shell game?”
        http://www(dot)scribd(dot)com/doc/256409078/Cruz-Citizenship-Timeline-documented

        Liked by 4 people

        • Doodahdaze says:

          Yes. Including Steve King.

          Like

        • Wendy Forward says:

          John Eastman, law professor at Chapman College in SoCal is the man to see about all this stuff. He’s been deconstructing the 14th Amendment=birthright citizenship=born on American soil shibboleth for years and could no doubt immediately figure out Ted’s eligibility.

          Liked by 2 people

          • Doodahdaze says:

            There are 6 exceptions. Ted may only qualify as to the 7th and last one. Maybe but i doubt it.

            Like

            • Wendy Forward says:

              Thanks again for Timeline all who went to trouble to get and post it-I used to (try) and do the same thing with my messier immigration cases-some of them were too out there though-all I can say is it’s horrible that a sitting Senator (from TEXAS of all places!) and candidate for POTUS has this many tangled webs around the most basic qualification. Another wonderful gift from He (Oblowme) who keeps on giving!

              Liked by 2 people

        • georgiafl says:

          PS – Unless I missed it the first time, evidence has been added a couple of times over the last several days to this Timeline, so be sure and check back to get the latest.

          Liked by 1 person

        • I lost some respect for Levin back when he continued to be associated with the Right Scoop after their horrible treatment of Trump supporters commenting there trump sure has exposed so many people for us, nothing will ever be the same again and I mean that in a good way.

          Liked by 7 people

        • stringy theory says:

          Georgia, don’t worry. You are in good company. I was banned there during the last election for saying I didn’t vote for McCain for president. Leon Wolf, Streiff (is he Sam T. Reiff?) and the rest of those who run RS are nothing but thugs who ban any and all who dare to dissent to their Cruz is God party line and Trump is an inhuman. You can tell most sensible people left RS a long time ago as most of their threads get 5 or fewer comments, other than those bashing Trump which are their main staple these days. Even Eric Erickson had the good sense to leave that sinking ship. Stay here where the white hats post. Sundance and TCH is the place.

          Liked by 5 people

          • georgiafl says:

            I could go back and post using my google and other accounts, but I don’t want to give them the support..and, eventually, they would just ban me again and again.

            Like

          • georgiafl says:

            What I like best about CTH is that when people dissent with us about Trump, there is no name-calling, no personal attacks, ridicule, obscenity, etc. It’s a civil conversation and evidence is presented and weighed. Only obscene and abusive posts are deleted.

            Liked by 1 person

          • coltlending says:

            It seems some of these sites really go on tilt if you go off the reservation.

            I got launched from Lucianne for questioning Bush’s spending & the way Sandy Berger was given a pass for his destroying the National Archive documents and my posting in ’08 my realization the De and Re had more of a stakeholdership with eachother the they did with most Americans, thus the Uniparty (though I’d never heard of that term at that time).

            Many say, the operators of sites can do what they want and that is true, but if you’re going to pass yourself off as conservative and open to political discussion, going it’s our way or no way, with little dissention is not the way to go. JMHO

            I go back to L.com to get a summary of headlines posted to scan & read what interests me, sometimes reading the replies. I’ve noticed there is nothing near the volume there once was as far as comments. Evidently, they ran a lot of people off.

            Seems to me Sundance rules his/or her space pretty fair. S/he gives us some pretty good leeway.

            I just have an issue with some posters that get unduly rude with their witicisms and snappy comebacks and label anyone who questions in any manner whatsoever their anointed one or vears from the prevailing consensus of the TH community on some particular topic. The label troll gets thrown around far too easily.

            That being said, those instances are pretty rare. This is one of the greatest sites on the net with some of the greatest posters and one of the greatests hosts of all-time, Sundance ( & Associates).

            Liked by 1 person

          • Doc says:

            TRS used to be my first viewed site in the morning when I got to work. Not because of it’s great analysis but just because it always had good clips and updates. I’ve always used CTH as my ‘source’ of information. But TRS lost me once I went from anybody but trump to hmmm trump looks like the only one who could win. I was a Cruz fan, and may still be today if not for the complete idiocy presented at TRS and soopermexican. Same with Ed at Instapundit. Now, I just don’t give them any clicks. I view that as the best I can do. I view this election as a litmus test to see who has which fingers in which pie. I always liked Levin’s commentary, however he has shown a LOT by his grandstanding and obvious prejudice towards all things Cruz. So again, you aren’t alone. I’d rather click 50 times to see if anything is updated HERE than see the latest ooh and ahhh at Cruz with a double down lie at Trump over at TRS. And it’s not going to change after the election. They are dead to me.

            Like

      • And by being coy about it Trump is bringing this into the picture where Rubio must be shaking in his new shiny boots as well…

        Liked by 5 people

      • Doodahdaze says:

        No doubt.

        Like

  11. Doodahdaze says:

    Steve King just said Cruz is not a naturalized citizen therefore he must be natural born. This does not pass muster if the timeline is correct and he applied for citizenship in 2005.

    Liked by 1 person

  12. Paco Loco says:

    Hannity is now following Rush’s line that Cruz is “natural born” , closed issue, bla bla bla….what a couple of non-conservatives!

    Liked by 2 people

    • RINOKiller says:

      EXPOSED!

      Liked by 3 people

    • stringy theory says:

      Hannity is a fraud like the other teleprompter readers at Faux. He and the rest do whatever Rupert Murdoch tells them to do. Right now, he’s telling the lot of them over there to push Cruz–push, push, push. Murdoch fears Trump as do the rest of the uniparty and their masters.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Summer says:

      They are circling the wagons, that’s all. Rush was always complaining about GOPers throwing Palin under the bus.
      That said, it is just their personal uneducated opinion vs my personal uneducated opinion.
      That means if Cruz is not getting an official court ruling SOON, he is going to be judged in the court of public opinion. Which tends to be negative towards non-charismatic conservatives born abroad. The vast majority of voters has never heard of Levin and don’t listen to Rush.

      Liked by 4 people

  13. RINOKiller says:

    So

    The Furher’s spokesfollower during a PC today said that the Cruz birther concern should be a “non-issue”

    Of course it would be a non-issuer coming from the one who was ineligible in the first place!

    Liked by 2 people

  14. Mo says:

    One other interesting point in the timeline is that Rafy Cruz (Eduardo’s papa) WORKED in the Castro regime. And was jailed by Batista’s, i.e., Castro’s enemy! Cruz is toast.

    Liked by 2 people

  15. yohio says:

    Some of the new people here who like Rush, boy he sure was defending his boy Cruz. Saying Trump can’t attack him on conservative record, so brought this up. No one can hit Cruz on his record. He didn’t flip flop on ethanol, real conservative. Poor Cruz sure does need someone to defend him it seems, and can’t stand-up for himself. Rush & Levin have to come to his rescue. The truth is all Cruz has to do is unseal his records and prove it. Bottom line is he won’t because something not right and he knows it. The problem is the country don’t need this AGAIN

    Liked by 2 people

    • ediegrey says:

      Rush has a lot of nerve forbidding Donald Trump from criticizing Rush’s darling Cruz – Rush evidently is in charge of what people can say or not say. Unbelievable, who made Rush God?

      Liked by 2 people

      • USA Patriot says:

        The same Rush that carried GWB’s water and the GOPe for years and thus made conservatism sound like economic Globalism and thus gave us Obama. We the People finally have awakened to the fact that true Conservatism is Patriotism, thus the rise of Pro-American Donald Trump.

        Like

    • SharonKinDC says:

      Another common characteristic w/ Barky. Others defend him/carry water. Cruz, the few times he’s had to defend his position, does NOT come off well. It’s one thing to be a great debater. It’s another to have to think on your feet to hide your own hypocrisy or lies.

      Liked by 2 people

    • irvingtwosmokes says:

      I’ll bet he applied to get foreign aid for college.

      Like

  16. Sanj says:

    What if Cruz renounced his citizenship 18 months ago….and it was Pakistan? Do you think that would be a problem?

    Like

  17. Notmeagain says:

    The best part about all this is that the conversation about what “natural born” means has exploded. It was suppressed by Obama supporters for obvious reasons. I find it very cheering to read all the comments on many sites by people pointing out that if having one American parent is all it takes, then any illegitimate child of soldiers, any child of an American raped by a Muslim, and so on, would qualify to run for President. Hopefully, more people will begin to realize that birthright citizenship is a bad idea, and “natural born” is a higher bar than “citizen.”

    Liked by 6 people

  18. American Dream 12 says:

    Hello

    I read this blog everyday and love it. First time posting but I have to say: on 300 millions American NATURAL BORN citizens we cannot find ONE who is a REAL American – born in the US from 2 AMERICAN parents to run for the presidency???

    When will we have a son of Bin Laden to be president???

    I used to like Cruz – a lot – but I am over it now because when he says he is natural born he is not! Natural born means born on US soil – can be abroad but in an embassy or military post – US SOIL! And both parents US citizens. His mother was born here but his father was not when Cruz was born.

    He is a citizen – but certainly not a natural born citizen which is an absolute requirement from the founders. The main reason was that they were afraid of having a president with different allegiance. See what we have now??? Exactly what the Founding Fathers were afraid of. And we see the results. As the one said – paraphrasing: “if the wind comes from the wrong direction I will always side with the muslims” – there you have it. Allegiance.

    So what’s wrong with our beautiful America that with 300 millions people in this country we cannot find one TRUE American to run for President?

    Incredible!

    Liked by 4 people

    • American Dream 12 says:

      Oh … and BTW I was also banned from therightscoop for defending Liberty Health Share – they did not believe me so they banned me even though you can find all the info online about them. Me and another guy who is also with Liberty and was explaining how it works – we were both banned! And since I am for Trump I hardly go there anymore anyway.

      Liked by 1 person

    • stringy theory says:

      Great comments. I agree we want 100% real Americans running for the job. And welcome to TCH as a poster.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Rene says:

      What is wrong is the dirty, corrupt politicians want to choose someone they can control. They do not care about the Constitution. Only care about themselves. You see where this has gotten us and now you see why Trump resonates.

      Liked by 2 people

    • ediegrey says:

      Thank God for Donald Trump, a true American who loves America and the American people.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Bobbi D says:

      on 300 millions American NATURAL BORN citizens we cannot find ONE who is a REAL American – born in the US from 2 AMERICAN parents to run for the presidency???

      Donald J. Trump…..Father born in America, Mother born in America…Donald J. Trump born in America…..2 parents born in America, a real ‘natural born citizen’ running for POTUS the right way!!!

      Liked by 1 person

    • singtune says:

      Thank You~! My thought’s exactly.

      Like

    • stobberdobber says:

      One big difference in what you say. There are many American citizens who work abroad that are not with the military who have children while there. Since they were not born on American soil, does this NOT make them citizens? The reason I bring this up is because of John McCain. He was born in Panama while both parents present but working on the panama canal. It was settled, IN the U.S. Senate, that he was a “natural born citizen”. That decision is of course non-binding and only a constitutional amendment will really solve the issue. Personally I adhere to what I believe the founders meant for it to mean. Found here http://www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citizenship/original_intent.html

      Like

      • yes, but McCain was born in The Canal Zone, which was the American Territory of Panama at the time. Even so, it is a moot point:

        The 1790 Naturalization Act provided the definition of Natural Born Citizen – a child born of two citizen parents, even if outside the country. Clearly, they had the diplomatic corps in mind, as well as business people, travelers, etc. The notion of Natural Born being within native territory was not incorporated into this definition provided by the Founding Generation. Clearly, it may have been a common understanding, but was not codified into law.

        Like

  19. This out of memory of Ted’s rise in Texas.

    Way, way back, when he was first getting started and attended many of the Tea Part meet ups in the Dallas area. One or two come to mind in regards to something my “recon” trained eyes noticed and made note of.

    He had a very large group of “suits” with him when he came to talk and would arrive just in time to enter the hall for his time to speak, did not mix and mingle and the same type entrance each time. Two to three of them would come in first and trail to one side of the hall , never down the center, and then he with one or two of them walking with him. After he got to the speakers stand or seated on the stage these ones would spread out around the place. Once he was done they met him as he came off the stage and sort of ran interference for him out of the place. Now I did go to one where it was small and paid up front and by invitation only. Not as much security then but some of the same suit types where there standing around.

    Thing is this was as he was running for U. S. Senate in the R primary.

    Now that I remember that is a bit odd for a “man of the people” type person he presents himself.

    Just odd now that I think about it.

    Liked by 1 person

  20. Rondo says:

    Trump knows Cruz is eligible to be President and so do most lawyers. Trump is planting the seed of reasonable doubt into masses. The Art of the Deal. Trump is always 1 or 2 steps ahead.

    Like

    • Martin says:

      Wrong.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Rondo says:

        Your merely a pawn you don’t see the play here. People are asking do we really want a President that may or may not be eligible and so on.

        Trump will be the next President.

        Like

        • singtune says:

          We that are Natural Born,~~do Not want a President that is NOT~! We KNOW what the “Founders” said ~~~& it has Always been that way since the “Founder’s” wrote it.. This only CHANGED when the NWO Global Elite were able to Place “Obama” in the Presidency, with much Deception. It also was done with~~ “Total Complicity “~~of a Paid Off “Uniparty” Congress. ~~~
          NOTE: This Clause not Only Protects the “Natural Born Citizen”,~~it Protects ALL Citizen’s here in the USA.. This Clause states that it take 2 parents to have this Child here in the USA on our Soil. {The Exceptions have to do with being Assigned to Military Duty Or Foreign Diplomacy -Elsewhere}

          There is NO PLAY at all~! It has to do with Following the “American Way & “Our Constitution”~! TRUMP Values the American Constitution & What is Says~!

          Those that do not Value the “American Way” are Not “NATIONALIST’S~! they are “Globalist’s”~!

          Like

    • boutis says:

      We do not know the full immigration history or documentation of his parents. He may be or he may not be. I honestly do not know. But simply declaring that he is and saying it is over is not going to solve the problem.

      Liked by 5 people

      • phil fan says:

        Way I understand it is that his Father was not an American citizen for sure at the time of his birth. Therefore disregarding his mothers status Cruz was not, is not and cannot be a Natural Born Citizen on that basis alone.

        Globalists would like to make this more complicated for their own evil purposes. I include Rush and Levin pushing this fraud on us.

        Liked by 2 people

  21. Rondo says:

    This is what I hate about some Trump supporters they hate every other candidate more than they love the truth. Exactly like Liberals. Facts are not important.

    I support Trump.

    Like

  22. Paco Loco says:

    The Cruzbots are going crazy over at BB reacting to two articles on Cruz’s elgibility for POTUS. It’s like someone swatted a hornets nest. The facts are hard to take sometimes when you become overly armored with someone. Cruz is going to have to deal with this sooner than later as its not going away anytime soon.

    Liked by 4 people

    • boutis says:

      I looked at a few Cruzzy sites this afternoon too. They will not acknowledge any mention, suggestion, or possible proof of his mom being a Canadian citizen at the time of his birth. That has not been verified that I can tell but his father was a Canadian citizen until 2005 when he was naturalized as a US citizen. His father said in some article that he and Mrs Cruz had become Canadian citizens. Now as far as I can tell they are hanging their hat on the definition of natural citizenship at HER birth of his mother and completely ignoring and refusing to acknowledge any change of her citizenship when Ted was born. It is weird.

      Liked by 2 people

      • kinthenorthwest says:

        White washing is happening . Try and find anything on Cruz’s mother, its really hard. Like I said there was a whole separate article over at Wikipedia on Cruz’s mother and its now gone.

        Liked by 2 people

    • boutis says:

      I talked to a friend this afternoon about this who is a employment lawyer and sees really weird (to me) stuff. He suggested that when the Cruzs’ came back to the US they had documentation as they had both been prior US resident or citizens. Green card for Mr and Social Security card number and birth certificate for Mrs. May they have come back to the US without the bother of applying for green cards and residency, etc and left out the part about acquiring Canadian citizenship? If they were in a hurry to get to a new job or get out of Canada that would be understandable but dishonest and they wouldn’t want it advertised or necessarily look forward to dealing with it after the fact. The problem of Ted’s Canadian birth certificate could be dealt with by filing a report of foreign birth to the State Department (if done when and was it after they returned to the US) which would on the surface look legal but it would/could have been a lie to make Ted appear a foreign born US citizen. Anyway this is not settled and all of the information is not out there for a reason.

      Liked by 1 person

  23. kinthenorthwest says:

    The presidential citizenship law needs to be interpenetrated by SCOTUS, its too ambiguous.
    I say this again. If Cruz was the brilliant constitutional lawyer he and his supporters claim, Cruz would know that the presidential citizenship law needs SCOTUS intrepretation Cruz should have also know about is dual citizenship. His attitude and claimed lack of knowledge toward both of my points make Cruz look VERY Stupid.

    Liked by 2 people

    • boutis says:

      Now the Cruz supporters (some of them anyway) are saying that a dual citizen CAN be US president and how dare you not say so you ignorant idiot. So they are finally acknowledging that this is hinky. Trying to insult and “shut up idiot!!” this away is not going to work. The constitution says nothing about dual citizenship nor that waiving the non-US one makes you a natural born citizen born in another country to two non-US citizens at the time of birth. What a mess and they are freaking out.

      Liked by 2 people

      • kinthenorthwest says:

        Do you all realize that when Cruz became a Senator, Cruz could have run for an office in Canada.
        Cannot believe that Cruz people are falling for this. Cruz is just like Obama and his know nothing see nothing and heard nothing.
        Cruz and Cruz supporters say that Cruz is this brilliant Constitutional expert, yet he didn’t now about his dual citizenship. BULL$HlT

        Liked by 3 people

    • SharonKinDC says:

      Frankly. if the parties and Fed Gov simply adhered to the Constitution and existing Acts, along with case law, there wouldn’t be this situation. President Trump can ensure his Executive branch upholds/defends and puts out, in writing, what defines a NBC. (After he appoints Constitutionalists to SCOTUS) Let others challenge it. Not the other way around.

      Liked by 3 people

      • singtune says:

        Right~! The “Constitution” & Laws have always been there~~but the Globalist’s in this Government have Totally Ignored “Our Constitution”~ & will continue to do so~~until TRUMP becomes President. It simply Needs to be Applied once again~!!

        Liked by 1 person

  24. Stephen Mac says:

    It has been brought up in this post under the current precedent now set you could have a ISIS couple have a baby here and he would be eligible to run for POTUS. This is another result of radicalization of political correctness. The qualifications for POTUS were there to protect us. Face it, there gone.

    Liked by 1 person

  25. Pingback: “The Most Consistent Conservative”? Ted Cruz 2011 -vs- 2015 on Birthright Citizenship | standupspeakoutblog

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s