GOPe Leadership and Democrats Preparing To Support Paul Ryan and Wage War Against Conservative Base…

It really is stunning how open the republican leadership in both the House and Senate are with their disdain for the base of their own party. Reports now surfacing that the GOPe has entered negotiations with Nancy Pelosi to support Paul Ryan.

According to Roll Call the Democrats are willing to elect Ryan if the GOPe promise to give them comprehensive immigration reform and amnesty legislation.  Representative Steve King warns of the political bloodbath which would follow such a deal.

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(Via Breitbart) As Rep. Paul Ryan’s history of working for open borders has come under increasing scrutiny, conservative lawmakers have begun to publicly insist that any person who seeks to ascend to the Speakership must oppose amnesty and represent the vast majority of GOP voters who want to close the immigration valve.

As Politico recently reported, conservative Congressman Steve King (R-IA)warned that there will be a “major intraparty battle over immigration if Paul comes forward.” “A majority of the conference is on my side of this argument,” King declared.

Politico added: “King said he would not support Ryan for speaker, noting that he has long opposed leadership candidates who are ‘pro-amnesty’ and that he is still backing Rep. Daniel Webster (R-FL)to take charge of the House.”

Polls show lawmakers could face severe criticism back home—as has already happened with Alabama’s Rep. Martha Roby if they leave the door open to a Ryan Speakership.

That is because Paul Ryan’s signature policy goal—allowing for the free movement of people and goods across America’s borders—is rejected by massive majorities of GOP voters.

A recent Pew poll found that only 7% of Republican voters want there to be more immigration into the United States. According to a poll from Kellyanne Conway, 80% of GOP voters think new immigration into the U.S. should be reduced by 90% or more. Across all voters—Democrat and Republican—Conway’s poll shows that only a microscopic 4% agree with Paul Ryan that any willing employer should be able to hire any willing worker regardless of where they live—the open borders credo.

As Ryan put it, we need to “have an open system where… the work that won’t be done by people who are already here can be filled by the people who want to come here and do those jobs.” “We want an economic based immigration system where… labor and supply and demand can meet each other,” Ryan has said.

Similarly, while Ryan was the architect of Obamatrade, Republican voters, by greater than a three-to-one margin, believe that the “free” movement of foreign goods across U.S. borders kills jobs. By more than a four-to-one margin, Republican voters believe that so-called “free trade” will slash American wages.

The fact that the political class, and punditry class, are fairly unified in pushing Ryan for Speaker demonstrates the double standard for how Republicans and Democrats are expected to choose leaders. No one has ever suggested that the Democrat conference elect leaders who oppose core progressive values—such as the ability to have abortions or protecting the benefit programs established by President Johnson’s Great Society. (continue reading)

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142 Responses to GOPe Leadership and Democrats Preparing To Support Paul Ryan and Wage War Against Conservative Base…

  1. Sentient says:

    Rubio’s Gang of Eight open-border-amnesty bill from 2013 is expired, so any “comprehensive immigration reform” would have to make it through both chambers. I can’t believe they could be so stupid as to try that when Trump is leading by 20 pts largely due to the border/illegal aliens issue.

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    • I hate to say this but I see the GOP Establishment as crooked enough to want amnesty passed in order to steal the issue from Trump. The CoC goal is the flood of cheap labor and am sure the CoC could care less how the GOPe makes that happen.

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      • lastConservinIllinois? says:

        That is just diabolical enough to sound legit.

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      • phil fan says:

        All the more reason to elect Donald to POTUS as the Republican nominee. As such we will be in a better position to undo the hideous damage done to our Republic by the evil alliance of the GOPe and DEM leadership. The open borders issue will not be settled so easily with him as Potus. We will have numerous allies among Democrat ‘ordinary people’ such as ourselves to get super majorities in House and Senate. We will have a Unity party composed of the above and led by you know who.

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        • razor1 says:

          Phil…sorry but this argument is about to hit the more than critical phase. even trump won’t be able to put this genie back in the bottle…1st off let’s just say he wins…immigration law will already be passed, he most likely won’t have house behind him…and dims likely take back the senate. with the gopE he’ll have an infight that will consume most energy…then by mid point without repub support house will swing back to dims.

          now imagine all this with a press that want’s to bury him. I’ll predict right now if gopE and dims conspire to elect ryan…60-90 days later Trump will drop out….doesn’t need this headache coming. By the way I predicted when bonner announced his resignation that gopE and dims would join to elect a candidate…didn’t name ryan however.

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          • phil fan says:

            Razor1 it will be a long fight, all will not be solved with Donald as POTUS. He’s a start, the first leader since Reagan to represent middle Americans. We must think long term and build a coalition/party to face the uniparty/globalists. RINOs have captured the GOP so POTUS for DT is only the first step in a long battle.

            But we must take that step and think ahead: with Donald many will join our efforts even at this very late date

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      • Doodahdaze says:

        I guess they want employable bodies. We already have 90 million unemployables. I think it is more than cheap labor. It is all about globalization.

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        • nimrodman says:

          “… 90 million unemployables”

          They’d sure as he11 work if you had to work to get a seat at the dinner table.

          Instead, the taxpayer supports them via welfare, food stamps, etc. Total disconnect from what used to be the natural societal order.

          Even if you could get a broom or shovel in their hands, they wouldn’t be work a sh1t. Can you imagine the attitude, surliness, slow-shuffling, and overall worthlessness? Let alone the criminality and loss of safe working environment for the capable and civilized workers.

          As I’m fond of saying, we’re paying an underclass to sit on their a$$es and blow blunts all day while importing a 2nd underclass to do the work the 1st underclass won’t do.

          Talk about’cher economic inefficiencies. Takes $3 dollars or more to accomplish what should be societally possible with just $1 dollar.

          But, hey – don’t get me started.

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          • “we’re paying an underclass to sit on their a$$es and blow blunts all day while importing a 2nd underclass to do the work the 1st underclass won’t do.”

            Best comment of the day

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          • I don’t think that this is 100% true. I am sure there are people in that number that want/need to work but can’t find enough employment. And the axiom that is always true is that you are more employable if you are employed — meaning if you are not employed, and apply for a job for which already employed people also apply, they are more likley to get the job than you. It happens all the time, questions arise like why are they unemployed? What is wrong with them? What did they do? I know what they said but what is the real story.

            A&P is about to go out of business. Next week the signs go up. That is a lot of people who will be out of work just before the holidays. Unemployment won’t give them much because they don’t make much. They will be fighting for jobs along with the illegals.

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        • boutis says:

          I am beginning to think it is about terrorizing the public into accepting worse and worse living conditions and more oppressive rule. I think that is what Germany is going through currently. Merkel thinks Germans have it too good and she wants them terrorized into accepting virtually anything to make it stop. It is psychological as well as economic warfare against your own people. Ryan is all in for that. Scumbag.

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          • boutis says:

            It is part and parcel of the collective guilt laid over the US population for slavery and the Germans for world wars and the Holocaust. No one alive now is responsible for these horrors but the socialized guilt is used to grab more and more power (economically and politically) and to create helpless brainwashed populations who are easily taken advantage of. Racism is the umbrella accusation which has nothing to do with hordes of Hispanic invaders to the US nor Muslims overrunning Germany. Conflating these in the minds of the population becomes easier as decades of correct-think are taught for psychological advantage. The US and Germany are being overrun by criminal and violent cultures who terrorize and are parasitic for a reason. An invasion of Canadians in the US or Scandinavians of Germany would not be tolerated as the terror would be minimal.

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        • Jett Black says:

          You win a cigar–globalization and complete control. Forcing formerly free people onto the dole renders them slaves. Lowering the floor for employment to third world levels everywhere, makes all people slaves.

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    • rodney says:

      Yes they will with the help of the Democrats. It’s become abundantly clear the oligarchs who own the GOPe that they will not let anything stop them now and they are pulling out all the stops to turn the U.S. into a giant pool of 3rd worlders they can exploit at will.

      If they get Ryan in, he will immediately push for open borders and amnesty. He’ll push it through the House with the Democrats help. In the Senate the GOP senators will support it and in a short period of time afterwards it will be signed into law by Obama.

      This is their end run around Trump. The splitter strategy is dead. They know Jeb and the others are DOA. Hillary is as popular as genital VD. Everyone hates this scum. So they have chosen take down the entire system by making 30 million new voters who will keep the status quo and wipe out the Tea Party and Trump supporters by sheer numbers.

      The Republic will cease to exist if this happens. Our vote will be irrelevant and the GOPe congresspukes will walk away with golden parachutes and 7 figure payoffs.

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      • Sentient says:

        Well let’s see the vaunted Ted Cruz do his best to stop it, then. Put on his comfy shoes and catheter and get his copy of “Green Eggs and Ham”.

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      • Betty says:

        “It’s become abundantly clear the oligarchs who own the GOPe that they will not let anything stop them now and they are pulling out all the stops to turn the U.S. into a giant pool of 3rd worlders they can exploit at will.”

        It isn’t just that – a strong middle class like we Americans used to enjoy is the only true deterrent to them turning the whole world “into a giant pool of 3rd worlders they can exploit at will.” As long as we exist and other people know it, they will not settle for hopeless servitude.

        And that is their aim, not the benefit to the human race that our Founding Generation envisioned but the slavery of all.

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      • Jett Black says:

        The “authorized” illegals would still not be eligible to vote–though I know that’s another battle that will have to be fought precinct by precinct. In mine, it could get rough, though I’m not sure which side the polling officials would come down on. They have everything to lose and nothing to gain by allowing in the immigrants, but the Demonrats have been telling them big lies for a long time.

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      • “In the Senate the GOP senators will support it and in a short period of time afterwards it will be signed into law by Obama.”

        Correction: In the Senate it will be supported during cloture but voted against during the actual vote – coincidentally by JUUUUST enough Senators to allow passage – which allows the slimey Senators to go home and say “I voted against it!”

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    • 1american1st says:

      This article is about the Speaker of the House, not Prez.

      They need to elect Jim Bridenstine or Newt Gingrich to replace Boehner.

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    • kpm58 says:

      If Amnesty can be passed and put in place before Trump is elected then the GOPe/DEMS have the economic and “moral” arguments of it being too complicated to undo even after Trump’s election.
      Inertia is a powerful force in government.

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  2. WTP.com says:

    We have NO representation, period! If this is true it’s beyond shameful. I’m so over these people.

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    • I think God is sad to hear us say that. True maybe not in congress, but we sure do in the spiritual realm. Perhaps this time SOMEONE will back Cruz? If not, anything can happen if God grants our prayers. Do not give up hope! Do not let fear guide us. Ye have not because ye ask not. Believe! Faith can move mountains.

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      • peachteachr says:

        MoniQue, I don’t think this is about faith. The verse in II Chronicles 7:14 says, “If my people who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and I will forgive their sins and heal their land.” But we won’t. We won’t do any of the things on God’s list: humble ourselves, pray, seek His face, or turn from our wicked ways. We have instead ruled against God’s plan for marriage, we attack with words, and I believe money and weapons, Israel. There seems to be no end to the ways the US has found to dishonor God.

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        • That is true if we look at the majority. But God doesn’t go by the majority. And there are many who seek His Face and have repented in this country. Many who haven’t is true. However, Jesus said “The meek shall inherit the earth.” Can’t have an inheritance without a death.

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    • peachteachr says:

      You are correct. That is exactly how I feel, unrepresented and unappreciated. At almost 67, I have voted in every election that has ever been held here in rural south Georgia. It is the purest reason for my support for Donald Trump.

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  3. mazziflol says:

    I just want one day…just one, of some good news for the Country and the Party.

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  4. joecollins says:

    I’m hoping the GOPe isn’t this stupid.

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    • ediegrey says:

      They are evil if you ask me. It’s all about money. Period. Our worst enemy is our government, both parties. Except for Trump – thanks be to God.

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    • DelAware says:

      Oh, c’mon.

      Look at how weak at the knees GOPers and conservatives have gotten over Scott Walker for bashing the last remaining shield between white middle class and blue collar Wisconsinites and poverty: public sector unions!

      All those industrial and hard-products jobs liquidated in the magic mushroom years of Greenspanism and Reaganismo–voodoo economics pushed by the NWO globalizers–and NOTHING WAS LEFT except a taxpayer funded welfare and education state whose functions are performed by native born white workers trying desperately to parrot the proper PC formulas so as not to lose their fragile hold on their lives!

      I lived in Wisconsin in the 15 years where the Walker buildup was happening. The constant busting of teachers and civil servants. Tommy Thompson’s destruction of the finest and least corrupt civil service institutions in the US. The pandering to the Club For Growth and Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce and their globalizing/open borders ilk and their billionaire foundation thinktanks.

      What we’ve got today is the logical natural intended outcome of GOP policies for my entire lifetime. Bash white workers, destroy wages, destroy high paying jobs, automate some and send the rest overseas, and make sure that hard working orderly productive whites NEVER get a share of the productivity and profits their genetics create everywhere they go.

      So enjoy it, Treefers. Enjoy being replaced. Enjoy watching your life go through what we Rust Belt people went through in the 1970s and 1980s, and we Cheezers went through in the 1980s and 1990s. Just because it’s later to your doorstep doesn’t make it new.

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      • Jett Black says:

        Insightful, though one-sided perspective. Demonrats and rapacious, unethical big organized labor are equally, if not more at fault than the GOP defalcations you site. Public sector unions are a bastard-child of labor–they “protect” people who already have governmental power and (other than teachers–another area that unions have, up to the present, done the opposite of what they should and claimed to do) don’t produce anything Still, you’re at least half right and it’s because we don’t want the whole country to go permanently “rust belt” that we’re pushing for Trump. I’m not worried about any particular race getting their share, so long as the shares can be gotten by productive work and everyone’s opportunity to work is equal and protected by laws that are enforced, rather than ignored (as is and has been the case for too long).

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  5. Centinel2012 says:

    Reblogged this on Centinel2012 and commented:

    The is war between the Tea Party conservative base and the GOPe who are more like Nance Pelosi than anyone in the Tea Party. However if they do this it will destroy the party. There are a great many of us that see what is going on and are very close to bolting. It would seem that the Demorat base is more to the GOPe liking than the Tea Party.

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  6. beaujest says:

    Biden rolled this sissy in the debate !

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  7. There is only one reason for these clowns to vote for amnesty etc. and that is because they already have all the payola they are going to ever get stashed away and no longer need their office to become rich. Any other excuse is pure BS because a vote for amnesty in this climate is guaranteed political suicide.

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  8. lastConservinIllinois? says:

    Important to remember that anymore Republican does NOT = Conservative.

    If R ever did truly = C, that is.

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  9. William eddy says:

    The Tea Party needs to organize into a true third party. I just don’t see how we can fix anything going the GOP route anymore.

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    • phil fan says:

      Let’s get Donald in as POTUS and rally our base and the many disgusted Dems to make super majorities in HOR and Senate. We will have the votes to undo a lot of this damage.

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      • kallibella says:

        Didn’t a third party elect Abraham Lincoln for POTUS and wasn’t the driving issue slavery in the new territories?

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        • phil fan says:

          Yes and the 3rd party was the brand new Republican Party of which Abe was a founding member

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          • kallibella says:

            I’ve heard conservatives express strong reservations about a third party, but I think their reservation is premised on the idea that the current two parties are fundamentally different and stand for different things. That is no longer the case when we have both parties colluding to scam the people and to incrementally change our form of government.
            I think we are quickly approaching the point where We The People may have sufficient force behind us to enable us to make a real conservative change!
            I personally feel Trump may very well be our first spokesman on the many issues but especially on the issue of illegal immigration!
            We must keep our focus and continue to apply pressure.

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            • phil fan says:

              SD has said it’s DC against America. The GOP/DEMs against us. The “us” needs to be organized into a legitimate 2nd party to face the uniparty of DC

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    • chili palmer says:

      I used to think that, but now I think we need a true second party-as of now we have the Uniparty. As happened with the TP, a new party will be co-opted immediately. So-called national TP leaders proved no more immune to GOP E magical attention than our elected officials are. (Some of them were GOP E to begin with). A “fake” TP candidate actually won an election in Florida. It was eventually found out and he lost the next time. A longtime GOP E insider said “co-opting is the secret to success in politics.” One national “TP leader” started a ‘green TP’ group and has since catapulted to national fame, even appeared on a stage in NY with Al Gore–all a result of selling her alleged TP cred.

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  10. BitterC says:

    Sundance, Paul Ryan is not mentioned in the RollCall article you linked to. Pelosi did not mention any names of who she would support. She just stated the conditions she has for getting her caucus to vote for a new Speaker. Are you naming names for her?

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  11. yohio says:

    Is there any way using the influence here and those supporting trump, that we can form some type of vulgarian campaign or party to rally behind the freedom caucus? Like people have said it might not help, but Sundance like you are saying about cold anger maybe they will be able to see the large number or members of support and realize we will bring them all down in the end.

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    • well, i for one am not a vulgarian. THEY are the vulgarians.

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      • SouthCentralPA says:

        Not so much vulgarians, as “barbarian enablers”… ach.

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        • I understand it is all in fun. I get that. But…

          vulgarian is defined as “an unrefined person, especially one with newly acquired power or wealth.”

          this was the insult given to Trump by CARTER OF VANITY FAIR who called Trump a “short fingered vulgarian.” Trump really hated that and is what caused a big riff between the two.

          Trump is actually quite refined and cultured. As we can see even in his children.

          Vulgarians are those like rap stars that go from the gutter to riches yet still have gutter mentality.

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  12. Doodahdaze says:

    The Republicans are merging with the democrats. The result will be The Uniparty. The Republicrat Party. This way they gan get these pesky issues off the table before the election. All that they have to do then is get Hillary elected. It is all so diverse. Neither evil will be the lesser. Maybe they can wrap it all up in one Yuuuge Christmas Package and pass it the Night Before Christmas. This is not a joke.

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    • R-C says:

      “…are merging…”? “…will be…”?

      From my perspective, that should be “HAVE merged”; “…the result IS the UniParty.”

      Just saying.

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      • IntoTheFray says:

        Agree R-C. To talk of a “two party system” anymore is wishful thinking and the Political Elite (PE) are running roughshod over the will of the people. The election of Trump, even if successful, will not change who the PE are or what they stand for, nor will it change the sick desires of George Soros and his cronies. If America is to survive, it is going to be a long, hard fought war, of which electing Trump is only the first battle.

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  13. 1hear2learn says:

    I can see Boehner trying to pull this kind of crap, but I cannot see how Ryan would allow himself to be used for this… even if he personally believes in this issue. They cannot be this blind to the fact that this issue alone would alienate a Yuge portion of Americans that do NOT want this legislation. I don’t think this would be something voters would ever let them forget not that Trump has shined the light on it once again. I think Trump already has the power now to cause a huge backlash and force their Congress critters to vote NO on this.

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    • Doodahdaze says:

      Ryan is one of Boneheads 3 original young guns. Cantor and McCarthy the other 2. He is awful. Total sell out.

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    • R-C says:

      Ryan is a “joiner”, not a “leader”. He’ll want to do whatever he can to be “accepted” by the group he admires.

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    • Betty says:

      1hear2learn, when you write: “They cannot be this blind to the fact that this issue alone would alienate a Yuge portion of Americans that do NOT want this legislation.”

      Your are forgetting that the GOPe has already sold themselves to the globalists (Wall Street, the US Chamber of Commerce etc.) and that the globalist do not care what becomes of Main Street, or the unprincipled, unscrupulous, greedy and odious politicians they put into place (aka the GOPe). The GOPe will be forced to their bidding – to defeat or circumvent Donald Trump and the American people at the cost of their place at the trough.

      The globalist are in their end-game and will kick the fools to the curb as fast as they did us.

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  14. yohio says:

    Sundance if they do this are they not just putting it out there once and for all that both sides are one and the same. A uniparty and they don’t care what the people or constituents want?

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    • That’s the real truth, but it will be disguised as a “Noble Bipartisan Effort” to end a Congressional Leadership Logjam created by the “Conservative Whacko Birds,”

      We will know it’s all BS, of course, but before they’re done,they’ll have half the GOP voters suckered into believing that Ryan was the right choice because he now has Pelosi “Eating Out Of The Palm Of His Hand” …or some such nonsense… and that he’s “The Guy” who is gonna lead the GOP to victory in Congress.

      And I’m getting sick just typing this…

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      • yohio says:

        But are they just not setting up for Trump, to be able to stand up and say I’m the only one who was against this AMNESTY and immigration reform. So I am the only one who will repeal this and I will do it any way I can! Once more people see how willing the uniparty is to force legislation we don’t want down are throats, trumps numbers sky rocket more to win nomination or if done after the nomination he wins presidency in a sure land slide.

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        • Who mentioned Trump? I’m talking about Ryan. The GOPe’s are aligning with Pelosi’s gang so they can install Ryan as SOH. Once there, Ryan will be the new Boehner… capitulating to every want and desire of the Dems, all while blocking every piece of legislation proposed by Conservatives.

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        • Betty says:

          “But are they just not setting up for Trump, to be able to stand up and say I’m the only one who was against this AMNESTY and immigration reform.”

          That question reminds me of a question I had last spring and my only answer was they planned massive election fraud.

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      • stringy theory says:

        Because open borders/illegals polls so low with almost all Americans, there is no way that could pass such collusion off as bipartisan ship. And there is no way this will hurt Trump; it will only help him.

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    • bofh says:

      “Reaching across the aisle.” – the noble goal. Not.

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  15. aprilyn43 says:

    I said it before, the GOPe would rather lose this election than allow Trump or Carson to win.
    I will not vote for Paul Ryan! I will not vote for just any Republican. Actually, I’m sick of Republicans, especially after what they have produced in the House and the Senate!

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  16. Bluto says:

    They really want to go for the kill. It’s disgusting.

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    • R-C says:

      Yeah…too bad they’ll be “killing” themselves.

      The phrase, “Bite of your nose to spite your face” comes to mind. They are willfully creating rifts that will not be mended any time soon.

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      • Betty says:

        It won’t matter “Yeah…too bad they’ll be “killing” themselves.” is not who we are fighting. The forces we are fighting do not care what happens to some lousy politicians after they have done their jobs.

        I can not tell you how many times I yelled to Amy Klobuchar – what do you honestly think will happen to your grand children after you have destroyed our republic for a generation of wealth for yourself?

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        • I’ve thought that so many times, you must have been reading my mind.

          I think they believe the $$$ will protect them and generations to come. I laugh at that. How many families of wealth from earlier days are still around? Upstate NY is riddles with historical sites of these past rich families. GCT has still existing door ways and tracks made specifically for Anderson Coopers family.

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    • kallibella says:

      On the eve of an extremely important election, these people are looking just as entrenched as Oevil did when he saw the wave mid-term election in 2014 and decided anyway to go ahead and decree executive amnesty!
      They will use any means at their disposal to inflict as much damage as possible to the American people and our system of government.
      They do not care about what we want. They will do what they want to do!
      Disgusting! We need Trump to voice our contempt for the whole lot of them!

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  17. emet says:

    Immigration reform? The only reform needed is for our leaders to reform their spines, which have become bent and twisted while groveling to special interest groups.

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  18. tappin52 says:

    In a weird way, this type of nonsense is exactly why Trey Gowdy should blow open the Benghazi hearings. Some of these careers should be vaporized and all of the filth that is the cesspool of politics in Washington laid bare. These vermin will not allow a President Trump to make America great again.

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    • bofh says:

      If Trump is elected, there will be a concerted bipartisan effort to make his term a failure. This is for all of the marbles – they are not about to back off or surrender, and currently they control the legislature and, apparently, SCOTUS. Plus, I’m afraid that Gowdy’s not the man to rely on to expose Benghazi. There is no isolated “Benghazi” – it’s just a single flashpoint that occurred in a huge, long-standing tangled web of deceit and perhaps treason.

      I would love to see Trump start attacking congress, by name if necessary, to leverage the anger of We The People to affect the congressional primary picture as well. Perhaps when the time is right, he will. But clearly, more than just the presidency must change.

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    • John Galt says:

      “this type of nonsense is exactly why Trey Gowdy should blow open the Benghazi hearings”

      Trey Gowdy: “Shut Up”

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  19. PreNanny says:

    While anything is possible, I just don’t see this happening and I am far from naive.
    There is no upside at this point for either side to figuratively blowup the House of Representatives, which is what this would do. Any legislation they would pass would be negated by a Trump admin.
    As Trump’s support grows the terror increases by the selfish prick corrupt politicians.
    They will delude themselves with all sorts of ideas to stop the inevitable day of reckoning.

    They can hear the whistle of that long Trump train.

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  20. SouthCentralPA says:

    There could be just enough of the GrOPe old guard who are old enough to just vote for this and then discover a burning need to “spend more time with their families” (a/k/a “retiring before the rubes throw you out”).

    Worst. Political. Class. Evah.

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    • kpm58 says:

      “Their Families”
      The members of Congress need to be contacted over and over again and told to think about what the America they will be creating for their families will become. They can not be so short-sighted as to think they will be a part of the elite group who will be able to keep what they have gained for their families while the rest of America crumbles around them.

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  21. Praxeology says:

    Not on my watch, Ryan want make it. Bring Newt back

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  22. Praxeology says:

    Boehner and the GOPe are running out the clock.

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  23. racerxx says:

    Yeah I thought it very strange how this issue went quiet. Guarantee it’s because the GOPe is scheming to shoe their man in.

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  24. AdukeLAXobserver says:

    If Ryan becomes speaker with democrat votes it will be a short term as speaker. The republican party will lose seats of this. They might end up being permanently harmed.

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  25. NCPatrick says:

    OK, I’m beyond sick of this argument! We have good and ample reasons to vehemently oppose more immigration, and the outright thumbing of their noses to bring in Ryan as the new Speaker is a line in the sand, kids. It is totally unfair for any of us to say “let Trump fix it when he gets in” as he will have immense problems to deal with. The very least we can do for this great guy is to not saddle him with a smug and corrupt House of Reps who will continue to oppose every change he tries to make.

    Many of our serious problems are a result of the endless river of migrants who have poured into our country almost unchecked for years, and it has been my #1 issue forever. I can’t count the letters, e-mails and phone calls I made in the past 6-7 years, and I know millions of others did as well. Remember when we burned the place down with telephone calls a couple years ago and stopped them from whichever pile of crap they were pushing on us? I say it’s time for us to do more than just whine and moan and think we can wait until Trump is elected (God willing). That is still a long way from now and vast damage can be done by then! I offer the example of present day Europe and particularly the country of Sweden. Sweden is in a state of emergency because of the invaders, and truth be known, US is nearly as bad. Think of Trump’s fight song: We ain’t gonna take it anymore! No Paul Ryan and Louis Gutierrez! NONONO! These lily livered sell outs can and must be stopped! Can we do more than just contact our “elected reps”? Quotation marks because I haven’t felt represented for a long time.

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  26. Ace says:

    How morally corrupt the GOPe is. As a consolation, it will be gratifying to watch them go down in flames.

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  27. allhail2 says:

    If this goes down in this manner, Ryan or anyone else, 2016 will see the largest incumbent primary removal in history….possibly on both sides

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    • PatriotKate says:

      They may be going for broke because of the importance of both Amnesty and the TPP to their plans. We can stop them.

      We need to remind them that we are well organized now, even though they believe that the TP is dead. We need only remind them that ‘they best dance with the ones that brought them.’ We gave them historic victories and we are proving we are most capable of giving them historic defeats (Jeb).

      I will be all over my Congressman and I also suggest that Reince Preibus be bombarded as well: Chairman@GOP.com.

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  28. lovely says:

    Paul Ryan betrayed those who put him in power. Paul Ryan says one thing and does another. He is as in the tank for the GOP as is McCain, Romney, McConnel, Jeb et al. Ryan is interested in keeping his power because he enjoys the power and the wealth. Ryan is as much an enemy of freedom as was Saul Alinsky.

    Paul used to serve his poison in a golden chalice, ah, it looks pretty what harm can there be in taking a sip? Now he simply pounds his fist and demands we drink from his cup while we are blindfolded.

    We need to look no further to find Paul’s duplicity than his response to being Speaker of the House. First Paul said no, then he said only if there is no opposition and now he is ready to go to war with the very faction he once to claimed to be a part of.

    “When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.”

    I always thought that those voting themselves money would be the constituents rather it is the politicians.

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  29. pyromancer76 says:

    Trump’s next big problem after he (and we) survive the nominations machinations (notice, not “if” Trump is a gifted fighter), is how severely voter fraud is cemented in to every place where there could be a close election. Obama’s ACORN agents were all over it before 2008 and acorn has morphed into I don’t know how many organizations. I am convinced that Obama won because of voter fraud in 2012; too many places had close votes where all outcomes went to Obama. This could work because of a close election — how many people were enthused about Romney? And Obama had caused the economy to tank.

    Today we are likely to have a landslide, if true and honest voting were maintained. These next tactics are likely to move to prevent this honest election — just like the GOPe has been gaming the Republican nomination process since, well, forever. I would like to see modules of workers — little engines, so to speak — in every area that can be identified as potentially “close” to inspect and reinspect and reinspect voter rolls in their areas. Plus whatever ever other sleuthing tactics might be possible. It is a tragic day that honesty and integrity are hanging by such a slim thread. Also paper trails. Also who manufactures and programs voting machines? Also where are the votes counted and by whom? I’m sure there are a dozen other crucial questions.

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    • smiley says:

      I hear you and I agree.
      but I really think Trump won’t stand for any shenanigans (putting it nicely) this time around.
      he knows the score here.
      you know he KNOWS.
      but still…it is a major concern.
      one of many, unfortunately.

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  30. Coast says:

    As Ryan put it, we need to “have an open system where… the work that won’t be done by people who are already here can be filled by the people who want to come here and do those jobs.” “We want an economic based immigration system where… labor and supply and demand can meet each other,” Ryan has said.

    OK, fine….Ryan, let me have your job since you won’t do it. See, it should work both ways.

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  31. “King said he would not support Ryan for speaker, noting that he has long opposed leadership candidates who are ‘pro-amnesty’ and that he is still backing Rep. Daniel Webster (R-FL)to take charge of the House.”

    Who also supports amnesty.

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  32. kallibella says:

    Fences and walls work for keeping the waves of refugees out of Hungary. They have seen a significant drop in the numbers of refugees traversing that country on their way to Germany.

    We need the Trump Wall towering over our border with Mexico!

    http://news.yahoo.com/hungary-says-migrant-influx-stops-114617312.html

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  33. mcfyre2012 says:

    The GOPe is the Democrat party of thirty years ago, while the democrats have completely sold out to the progressives.

    The GOPe is just doing what the democrats do…they no longer try to do covert deals…they just do them and ignore the public. The Kardashian-addicted masses will never notice.

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  34. Paul Killinger says:

    Ryan’s election as Speaker would be the BEST THING that could happen to Donald Trump. It would expand his support in the primaries and enable him to run against the Senate AND House leadership in the general election.

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  35. Nessie509 says:

    I think the Ryan selection plan is the clearest indication that GOPe now believe Trump will be president. They want to wrap up their “bought and paid” for agenda before Trump takes over. Surely they must have learned from the current president that any law works only if the executive branch actually enforces the new laws? (DOMA, anyo me?) Trump’s first News Conference: “Yeah, I ‘m working on that amnesty stuff, but first I’m building that wall to make sure we don’t accidentally add more non-citizens than those already here.” To Conress: “You’re going to tell your constituents you want non-citizens to get stuff rather than improving infrastructure in your district?” And then, “I can send them home when work permit ,or visa expires, or after prison release. They didn’t apply for amnesty and must be deported based on the law you passed.”

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    • PatriotKate says:

      The problem is Congress still has the power of the purse and, although they have failed to use it with Obama, what do you want to bet they’ll suddenly find their spine and refuse to appropriate funds for the necessary reversal?

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    • joshua says:

      Trump has a pen and a phone.

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    • phil fan says:

      “I think the Ryan selection plan is the clearest indication that GOPe now believe Trump will be president. They want to wrap up their “bought and paid” for agenda before Trump takes over”

      Bingo. Good thinking. Let’s also think ahead as you suggest.

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  36. shipley130 says:

    Direct contact to John Boehner on his government “speaker” website has been cancelled. Very convenient to not have an official record of people calling him a total drunkard loser.

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  37. joshua says:

    If Ryan takes the Speaker Job he can kiss his political career good bye….and anyone that lunches with him as a lobbyist will get toasted too.

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  38. Redware says:

    If Paul Ryan or any Republican,for that matter,is elected with Democrat help,it will be the beginning of the end for the GOP.Their function as an opposition party will cease to exist.If a conservative third party is formed it will quickly surpass the GOP in strength and influence.Bring it on RINOs!

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  39. regedit says:

    Only way to counter this DEM/RINO coalition, would be for Trump to go 3rd party
    Win or lose it almost doesnt matter -we are screwed anyway
    IT would start the process however of Tea Party types, to primary all Rinos and get them out of Congress

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  40. Janste says:

    I know the new term is GOPe, but really its the FascistR and FascistL vs Conservatives. There is no republican party anymore. Paul Ryan will get in, he and Turkeyneck will get global union treaty ratified in senate and other fuedal goodies to enslave Americans, unless the states break off from the US dollar and federal tax system and form their own sovereignties! States also need to stop the federally backed Hollodamoor of Isis refugees that are being shipped to the states, and the states individually need to back up Native American communities in stopping these refugees from seeking lives there. The Native Americans are being targeted for mass conversion to Islam and so-called “allegiance” with Shari law to than wage war against rest of Americans. Native Americans I pray majority know that joining with radical Islam is enslavement on a scale as bad and worse than the federal system crimes against them. To quote, Russel Means we’re all on the reservation now! Well its time we understand that local communities is the best way to take care of one another. Its not that we can’t work together as larger units for other problems or for common defense, but that humanity of all races strives best with more freedom not less.

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