Not “Outsiders” – Arrest Reports Show It Was Locals In Baltimore Who Rioted, Looted and Turned To Violence…

Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings said she and her administration intentionally gave the violent protesters “space” to “destroy”, riot, loot, cause mayhem and attack people. The Mayor simultaneously said the violence was from outsiders; however, a review of last nights arrest records finds 31 out of 35 arrests were local Baltimore residents.

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BALTIMORE – Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake and a coalition of two dozen interdenominational leaders issued a “call for peace” Sunday after 35 people were arrested and six police officers were injured in protests over the death of Freddie Gray..

The Police Department in the afternoon released a list of the names of the 31 adults arrested, omitting those of the five juveniles.

Despite police Commissioner Anthony W. Batts’ insistence that a minority of out-of-town instigators caused the violence, online court records Sunday showed that only three of those arrested during Saturday’s protests were from outside Maryland.

“While the vast majority of arrests reflect local residency, the total number of arrests does not account for every incident of criminal activity,” police said. “The Baltimore Police Department believes that outside agitators continue to be the instigators behind acts of violence and destruction.”

Multiple storefronts were vandalized and several police vehicles were damaged, police said. Other property damage was reported, but police did not immediately provide further information. (read more)

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150 Responses to Not “Outsiders” – Arrest Reports Show It Was Locals In Baltimore Who Rioted, Looted and Turned To Violence…

  1. mickie says:

    So typical. Who da thunk?

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    • ty says:

      Anything planned for tonight or is it over for now?

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    • Blonde in Red says:

      Special ash-flakes reverting to the jungle mean.

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      • lorac says:

        Check out these special snowflakes. These people are not only black racists, but seriously mentally ill. And they’re making terroristic threats, and no cops came to get them. They claim the bible backs them up, but they seem to be calling themselves black Israelites. Warning – vulgar language and disgusting people.

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        • jello333 says:

          And to think… there are a lot of decent people in this country and around the world who go hungry at night, while the slime in this video have plenty to eat. Now that I think about it, there are lots of non-human animals out there who have to suffer due to lack of food, too. Dogs, cats… mice, insects, micro-organisms… ALL of them would have more to eat, and better air to breath and water to drink if the slime we see in this video would just do us all a favor and LEAVE this planet.

          (Was that too subtle?)

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          • PatriotUSA says:

            I think you were too nice, Jello333. You stated it well and I have to sit this one out just for a spell as I WOULD get into trouble. Agree with all you said, spot on.

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            • RJ says:

              Wait a minute…you can get really po’d at these peoples’ behavior, etc. but they are living in the USA and are part of our social fabric. This means we have “enabled” them to such a degree that they are now “acting out” in ways which, when we see them behave so, we may find such acts repulsive, a reflection of those decisions we, as a society, have made in general, while they in particular have lived with such realities and have chosen to communicate back to us. There is always going to be a percentage of a society that feels left out and walked on by others, a group who feels and believes it is not their fault to be at the bottom of the ladder in life’s benefits, etc.

              Vertical mobility is the issue, being stuck at the bottom is “their problem” not ours, right?

              They desire to make it “our problem” and we don’t want to accept that point of view…automatically.

              Could it be that a “role model” for these people might be the “Clinton Family” we are once again being forced to experience? A “rip off” game is just that, no matter how one tires to “dress it up” to look like anything but…

              Fire alarms are there to warn us, right? Is this disturbance a fire alarm? I think it has always been such and far too often we don’t heed such a warning, paying later a heavy price for this kind of active ignorance. Men who have jobs and are productive members of a society don’t have that much time to get into trouble. We need to keep men at work, work that is constructive, not destructive in nature. Prisons are where we place those who refuse to play life this way, constructively that is.

              If the Clintons skate on their selfish and destructive decisions, how can we not expect these people at the bottom of life to behave such? Let us clean our house first before we go down the street checking on others.

              Throw the political bums out who have helped deny these people at the bottom the freedoms and responsibilities to join our vertical mobility ladder. Bums such as Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, McConnell, Obama, Biden, Kerry….the list goes on and on to even those who hide out in the back benches of our government.

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        • Blonde in Red says:

          Well, lorac, you’ve managed to render me absolfreakin’lutely speechless with that link.

          The indoctrination and ‘blame-game’ idiocy is so thick with these types of ferals that it’s to a point where I think the word ‘hopeless’ is legitimate.

          Every imaginable set-aside and affirmative action racism has been used for Negroids and yet, the majority never rise above.

          Whites give them whole cities with perfectly working infrastructures and within a generation of black majority rule, these once nice places look like a nuke hit them.

          I’m so done with these cretins.

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          • Roy says:

            “Whites give them whole cities with perfectly working infrastructures and within a generation of black majority rule, these once nice places look like a nuke hit them.”

            They’ve been given a country. Just you wait.

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            • ImpeachEmAll says:

              They need to be taken to the ocean

              and told to have a nice swim home to Africa.

              Those in Baltimore are especially lucky.

              It is a port city – short walk to the water.

              Fish menu special tonight – rainbow protesters.

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            • This might come as a bit of a shocker to you Mr Roy, by voting Obama in twice you have already given your country away. Say hello to America’s new reality under one party DemocRatic rule. Do keep on working hard so that the rioters don’t run out of your tax money to spend, you so do not want to see your new masters upset.

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        • ty says:

          I realize it’s just a few men standing on the street spewing vulgar, hate speech, and making threats. But can’t help feeling far more blacks than we realize feel this way. With so many reports of black mobs attacking whites what else could be the reason except hate. The same hate spewed by the men in your video link.

          Even Oprah saying things will be better when old white people are dead. I’m beginning to think maybe 50% or more of black Americans hate and wish white people dead. I can’t see things getting better only worse. The only hope I see is whites coming together like blacks do, showing solidarity and saying enough, no more. If we continue to politely put up with it how can things get better?

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          • Mr. Frosty says:

            I’d say about 30% are violently hateful of whites. About 60% are on the fence, but if they see one of their brethren stomping whitey, they’ll either join in or look the other way. Only about 10% are reasonable people. Remember, 95% voted for Obama, twice. If whites voted like that, there would NEVER be a black president.

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          • Blonde in Red says:

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          • John Denney says:

            We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these Rights are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
            We unite to defend each person’s life, liberty, and property from criminals and enemies who do not subscribe to those self evident truths.
            Some of us are black.
            Our enemies downplay these fundamentals and exaggerate grievances to cause divisions.
            They know that a house divided against itself cannot stand.
            Be an evangelist for the fundamentals.

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        • benzy says:

          In the ultimate irony, the poster they showed depicting what the “so called white people” have done to “them”… one is labeled “Slavery” and shows a black man with a collar and chain,.. the chain is being held by (wait for it……) ANOTHER BLACK MAN

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        • Monroe says:

          Once again stealing someone else’s culture.

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  2. Lou says:

    “outside agitators” has always been a talking point to claim “it wasn’t one of ours”. if you read the comments in some of these videos, you’ll see a common theme of thumbs up comments that these were agent provocateurs. this has been going on for a long time.

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    • kinthenorthwest says:

      In the Paco mess they tried to claim the same thing but it turned out it was Pasco and Tri-Cities…

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    • benzy says:

      Another aspect of that entire issue is that even when it IS “outside agitators” who have caused the violence,… in most cases, those “outsiders” were that at the invitation of the protest leaders in order to bolster the numbers of people on the streets

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      • benzy says:

        I can’t type today… should have said, “those “outsiders” were there at the invitation of the protest leaders”

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  3. freepetta says:

    Baltimore has been a city out of control for a long time with very high crime stats…It’s truly sad how these groups come in and agitate the locals causing mayhem and chaos. Every city run by Democrats becomes full of crime and rage, is it a coincidence?

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  4. jello333 says:

    How is it that “white flight” came to be considered a sign of racism? I say it’s a sign of INTELLIGENCE. And not just for whites, but for ANY race who wants to have a decent life for themselves, including some blacks. ALL decent people should, if they have the means, get out… leave these sink holes to the scum.

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    • Sandra says:

      The Obamas aren’t going to return to the Hyde Park neighborhood of Chicago. Even they are going to engage in flight to get out of a pocket of nice surrounded by ghetto.

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    • art tart says:

      jello333 ~ well said. I agree, any family that can do better for their children seeking a safer neighborhood, low crime stats city wide, better educational opportunities, & that includes all races as you point out. Why hang around & watch your home decrease in value?

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    • michellc says:

      I highly recommend as far into the sticks as you can get.:)

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      • georgiafl says:

        There are pot growers, meth labs, welfare scammers, criminals, Islamist and black mafia, etc. out in the fly over country too as the horrific murder of Jessica in Mississippi shows us.

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        • michellc says:

          True, but as for the large scale it seems to be in Mississippi, it’s not that way in most areas.
          I do know where a few rural areas are in Oklahoma that I wouldn’t venture into, one of them was a decent place until more of a certain race took over.

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    • partyzantski says:

      When there are sharks in the water, normal human reaction is to get out of the damn water.
      If Libtards stay in the water, I really cannot get too broken up over the red tide.
      Self preservation is a human right.

      Denying this truth and the God-given right to ones self and the obligation to preserve same is Totalitarianism. What next, are they going to force people at the point of the gun to STAY in changing, ever more DIEverse areas?

      Face the music, folks. Silence=Death. The Gaystapo used that one to good effect years ago, time to recycle what works. They were right then as American normal human response is now.

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      • ImpeachEmAll says:

        Red Tide = Too Funny!

        There goes the neighborhood.

        The sharks will leave,

        before eating any Libtards.

        A shark has to much dignity.

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    • Eskie Mom says:

      Tommy Sotomayer has a video out that says this exact thing (something to the effect that White people treat him better than Black people do). There is no question in my mind that good people who happen to be Black are in as much danger as anyone “other than”. The ones who aren’t good people kill one another all the time. Black lives don’t really matter to them. Talk is cheap & lives are even cheaper.

      (aside: Is it just me or does this mayor remind anyone else of Mooch? I can’t decide if they actually favor or if it’s just her expressions or the photos.)

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      • stella says:

        Good point, Eskie Mom. It is apparently easy for some to lump everyone with a similar skin color into the same basket. We would be wise to remember that the majority of any particular group – and that includes people in the inner city – are not violent, and only desire normalcy in their daily lives. Many people we encounter in our daily lives are not like us, regardless of their skin color. It is a mistake to mentally categorize people on that basis. I recently read this comment on Facebook, and it’s something to think about:

        I have been expecting the United States’ method of bogus racial classifications to collapse someday — of its own “internal contradictions” as a commie would say, or from its dishonesty, as a normal person might say.

        The identity boxes you’re supposed to check off are not grammatically parallel. White is a color. Nobody is that color, of course. Even albinos are pink. Black is just as fake. Asian is a geographic designation that includes over half of humanity, from fair Russians to dark Tamils, both of whom were classified as “caucasian” not long ago, as if the Caucasus were the font of half of humanity.

        Turks, Vietnamese, Israelis (whether Arab or Jewish) Malays and about a jillion other groups are all “Asians,” too. That’s not what they meant when they designed the checkbox; they meant “Chinese-looking.” Most Chinese are fairer (i.e. “whiter” than southern Europeans. Has anyone asked the Chinese how they feel about being called non-white?

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    • stella says:

      The so-called “white flight” began after WWII – in the 1940’s. Although I am sure that crime in the city was one reason, it was also a desire for men and women to find a better life in a time of prosperity for themselves and their children. Mothers and fathers sought a small plot all their own to raise their children. A place where the kids could play in the yard, and ride their bikes to the local park or school playground, a place that was safer and happier. A place where they could enjoy themselves and entertain their family, neighbors and friends.

      That is what all decent people want for themselves and their families.

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      • jello333 says:

        Yep, I’ve said before that the people I feel most sorry for are the decent black people (especially elderly ones) who are STUCK in bad inner-city neighborhoods that once may have been nice areas. But now they just don’t have the means to get out, and basically have to lock themselves inside 24/7. And oh, even if they HINT that they’d like to get out then… well then they’re labelled as sell-outs, or “trying to be white”, etc. Really sad…

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      • Eskie Mom says:

        The Facebook post makes a valid point. People were much more simplistic when “White, Black, Yellow (Yellow? Yellow is jaundice.), & Red” became the “designations/ descriptors” for race. I believe it was actually more about features (facial features & stature) than skin color.
        Here is something interesting. In color theory, white is all color reflected, & black is all color absorbed.

        Personally, I think that much of what’s wrong with society is the deprivation of a safe personal space- which is really unhealthy, & cramming people together. It’s stressful. And that makes people short tempered & raw. Stuff builds up because people can’t “get away” & recharge. It’s expedient for the commies (easier to herd & control) & the left wants to portray it as this “happy, stress free” way of life but it’s the opposite.

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  5. BertDilbert says:

    if the mayor gives space to destroy and you or something you own got destroyed, do you have a legal claim against the city?

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    • Les says:

      Or against the mayor?

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    • jello333 says:

      I know there are some who think there’s no need for government. I agree that it’s way overbloated, and does a lot of stuff that’s totally unnecessary, but I also think there ARE some important roles of gov’t. And one of them is to hold violent criminals accountable for their actions. Because otherwise, if it appears they will NOT be held to account, then people will start to take matters into their own hands.

      Heh… now that I think about it, I guess it’s not so clearcut whether or not that would be a bad thing. :/

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      • libby says:

        Scratch most greenies and underneath most are commie red, but many are anarchist through and through.
        To me the anarchists are the worst. They dont want any government

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      • Millwright says:

        jello333, All you have to do is think back to the Newark, NJ riots of 1967. One remaining “secret” from them is the real body count vs. the “official ( 26) ” one. Given what I see as an emerging (and rapidly growing ) animus among the law-abiding public – regardless of race/ethnicity – the threatened “long hot summer” may well turn out far different than these hoodlums anticipate.

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      • nimrodman says:

        jello said: “… important roles of gov’t. And one of them is to hold violent criminals accountable for their actions.”

        Unfortunately, those presently in control of government seem all to willing (and determined) to coddle and excuse these violent criminals than to hold them to account.

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    • You beat me too it, I was just about to ask this. I would be furious if the leadership of my town allowed something like this too occur. It seems too much like a dereliction of duty.

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      • John Denney says:

        During the Rodney King riots in L.A. and in the Ferguson riots, the “authorities” let innocent businesses by looted and burned.
        But in both L.A. and Ferguson, there were shop owners who defied the authorities and stood their ground with assault rifles to dissuade the rioters.

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        • Eskie Mom says:

          That’s the difference. The Koreans (at least at that time) had not been indoctrinated & weren’t targeted by the left for some ancient guilt trip. Their strong sense of values knew that what was happening was wrong & also compelled them to protect their property, their neighbors, & their community. It should make the rest of us ashamed. Obviously, it doesn’t- or not enough.

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    • LiveFreeOrDie1776 says:

      Excellent post. That’s the question isn’t it? You should have a legal claim, but I doubt it would have any legs in the current environment.

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  6. seabrznsun says:

    Perhaps the mayor should personally cover the damages since she gave them space to destroy. Why should taxes or insurance go up to cover losses approved by the agent provocateur.

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  7. bofh says:

    I’m a little unclear about what part of the law gives a mayor the right to “intentionally [give] the violent protesters ‘space’ to ‘destroy’” other people’s private property..,

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    • BobNoxious says:

      The mayor, like many agitators turned elected officials, has no real world experience. She truly believes “it’s only property and a few windows” that can be replaced. She has absolutely no concept of insurance premiums, deductibles and other costs associated w/ actually going about getting things replaced. Private ownership is simply a foreign concept to her; she has been told her whole life that capitalism is evil and the cause of all her troubles.

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      • Les says:

        Or a concept of the brow sweat needed to produce money for premiums and deductibles and the initial investment for stock to sell in stores.

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      • jello333 says:

        And it’s a lot more than just the cost to repair the damage to physical objects. How are they gonna repair the PSYCHOLOGICAL damage to all the decent people who had to live in fear as this was going on? Even if not a hair on their body was harmed, they still WERE harmed. What about THEIR rights? Look at the people trapped inside that restaurant… what about THEIR rights?

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        • dalethorn says:

          I don’t think that unless there were a critical life-saving reason to “back off” on arresting these criminals, that anyone should have backed off. That situation would not have been tolerated where I live, and police from federal to local have already demonstrated that here. So why did they allow that to happen there? To let the creeps incriminate themselves? I dunno about that – what’s next, hundreds of trials and plea bargains for these criminals who are already in the system and costing taxpayers money? Is Obama going to announce a strategy that will crack down on this nonsense violence? It was one thing to have spontaneous riots all over the U.S. in 1968 when King was shot, but this stuff is spreading now and attacking the justice system at its core – how can we allow police to be targeted by this conspiracy and hope to maintain civilization? The president really needs to get some, uh, you-know.

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  8. True Colors says:

    Two common excuses used to explain away these BLM acts of violence.

    1) the protests were “mostly peaceful”
    2) the violence was “mostly outsiders”

    AS IF that somehow justifies this garbage.

    AS IF we should somehow be less outraged.

    Black skin has now become the #1 sacred cow in all of America. It is the ultimate blank check to get away with anything. Literally anything.

    TC

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    • Les says:

      To “appear” to get away with anything. Their communities and color will pay for it. White people are not as willing to hire them. Hispanics will benefit from the failures of the black man.

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      • franker01 says:

        I’m thinking the coming Internecine Warfare will be between Blacks and Hispanics.

        Whites seem incapable of banding together in the tribal/racial/whatever way that we have plenty of video showing that (some) Blacks are enthusiastic about.

        Don’t know that Hispanics will put up with that should it be directed at them.

        White People seem pretty much committed to calling 911 or just taking pics when others of their race are having the crap kicked out of them.

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        • jello333 says:

          I realize that when it comes to gangs, there are some really bad young Hispanics out there (as there are some whites, and even a few Asians and others). But that’s where it seems to end. When you find a violent, arrogant, scumbag Hispanic out there, the vast majority of time they’re involved in gangs. But what’s up with young blacks*? Only a small percentage of the ones causing the trouble seem to be directly involved with gangs… most are just freelancing. They seem to be doing it not because of gang warfare or some kind of “initiation”. No… they seem to be doing it just… well, almost as entertainment. And to me that’s FAR scarier than if it was gang-related.

          (* I’m just talking about SOME young blacks, of course.)

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          • franker01 says:

            You make an excellent point that will go unexplored by Academe, DOJ, the MSM and pretty much everybody else.

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          • Les says:

            Probably related to drug use/distribution and theft. “Git munny.” They don’t work or study or do anything constructive. That leaves a lot of time for foolishness.

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          • bofh says:

            “Only a small percentage of the ones causing the trouble seem to be directly involved with gangs”

            I’m not so sure about that. When was the last time you saw a photo of a black teen or young man that wasn’t twisting his fingers into contortions that look more like cerebral palsy than anything else? Perhaps “gang signs” don’t always match up with “gang membership”, but it at least shows what’s in their heads and in their “culture”.

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          • Spar Harmon says:

            The social peer media is a powerful force little considered, jello. Remember the force of peer pressure when you were a teen; that seems even greater now. If parenting is weak, teacher influence weak, adult influence in general weak, then the peer group with the cell phone providing powerful networking unifying immature views becomes the most powerful influence in young minds. Disastrous recipe!! Very manipulable by the unscrupulous — — — plus Lord of the Flies Syndrome!!

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    • georgiafl says:

      Four are tied for the #1 sacred cows – Islam, Illegals, Blacks, Democrats and LBGTXYZ – not sure which order.

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  9. TexasRanger says:

    But Now, Police Bracing For Outsiders Joining Baltimore Protests……

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  10. GoneGalting says:

    Full disclosure: I’m a software developer. So I tend to think very logically. Here is what bothers me with the excuses that the troublemakers were outsiders: if your community can be looted by outsiders, then isn’t that an admission that the men in your community aren’t worth much? Or maybe the men are missing as CNN says.

    The fact that outsiders were even scapegoated says more about the low expectations of black people and the lawless communities we (I’m black) create.

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    • Les says:

      May I ask a blunt question of you? It’s pretty rude, so I’ll understand if you don’t answer…

      Should white people be upset about this or are we overreacting? Are the protestors really that mad at police or are they really angry at The Man? I am interested in your point of view.

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      • spottedpony says:

        I see A LOT of smiling faces among the protesters so that might be part of it and also, in general blacks are taught to feel ‘disrespected’ at the tiniest slight but whites are taught ‘sticks and stones….words will never hurt” ——> WHY?

        Many blacks seem to have a huge chip on their shoulder and whitey will face the brunt of it. They seem to think we have it easy……and they may feel less valuable because of individual circumstances.

        Worlds apart…….

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      • GoneGalting says:

        You should be mad as hell. But, it’s hard to say how mad you should be at this point.

        This isn’t a fight worth winning anymore. Jamal Bryant, the NAACP, NOI and the like have taken over Baltimore. I doubt the mayor has much sway at this point.

        As I said, black people like strong men or the charismatic. Rawlings-Blake is neither.

        I mentioned my race and profession earlier. I think it is important in assessing blacks. It is my opinion that any black working in a field close to a true meritocracy will be very different than these community organizing types.

        Obama (said as much in his book). Rawlings-Blake. Michelle. Blacks that can’t make a living in the private sector blame their failures on whites. And no amount of wealth or power can overcome it.

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        • jello333 says:

          Thanks… oh, and please stick around. 😉

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          • GoneGalting says:

            I’ve been here since Zimmerman. I’m one of the only black people I know that never voted for Obama.

            In fact, voting for Obama is a proxy of sort. I wouldn’t date a woman or befriend that voted for him.
            Especially the 2nd time. Or their opinion on Trayvon/Mike Brown/Eric Garner.

            I’m also a landlord in DC. As well as a software dev. Suffice to say, I’ve done a bit of building things in my life. That ‘you didn’t build that, by Obama still makes me angry. These community organisers don’t understand hard work, blood, and sweat that goes into building a business.

            In some movie, there is a quote about a time for choosing. I have so much anger at what I see of young and old black people. If there is ever a race war, I couldn’t fight alongside cowards that would attack the elderly, shoot babies in their strollers, etc.
            They need to be destroyed. Law and order should not be used to keep them alive.

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            • Jett Black says:

              Thanks for your perspective and very glad you’re here and also doing what’s “of good report” out in the world. Role models matter. I would say the same things you did about a whole lot of white, hispanic, and asian people. The wrongs that they do tend to be violent or physically destructive less often, but their manipulation of information and institutions to advance degenerate ideologies and practices may be even more destructive in the long run. As you have done, it’s time for all of us to demand of ourselves, our neighbors, and our government officials individual responsibility, completely regardless of race.

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            • Re: “You didn’t build that.” What, I believe, they are missing is that people that build small businesses (or similar) work the early days for long hours and low pay that likely calculates out to less than “minimum wage” At some point that work SHOULD pay off and not be taken by the government as if it were ill gotten gain.

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            • Les says:

              Thanks, man. I know the black community is split (same with whites) between people who do right and people who don’t even understand what is right anymore. I wish more people would speak up publicly. There are as many crazy white liberals as they are angry black folks.

              I hate the division we live with now. It was wrong 150 years ago and it is still wrong today. I don’t like the “it’s your turn to suffer” mentality because human history is older than 200 years. If you weigh up all the historical rights and wrongs, you will find we are all pretty even karma-wise. It’s a short-sighted view.

              I hate being judged for being white. I would rather be judged for my smart-alecky mouth.

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            • ImpeachEmAll says:

              You might be surprised what you would do;

              if the elderly were wearing a bomb vest;

              or the strollers contained a bomb beneath the baby.

              War is Hell.

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            • jello333 says:

              Yeah, I’ve apologized profusely to everyone here about my voting for Obama in ’08. No I didn’t believe the majority of the hopey-changey junk, but I DID think he’d make drastic changes where human rights, constitutional rights are concerned. I stupidly believed that he’d order investigations into some of the stuff Bush had done. HA! Instead, he doubled down on it all…. and quickly became even more dishonest, arrogant, and dangerous than Bush EVER was. Oh, and of course I absolutely did NOT vote for the man in 2012. In fact I did whatever I could to try to PREVENT him from being re-elected… to no avail, obviously. 😦

              But anyway, major respect to you. I just don’t know what the answer is. A person like me (white) who speaks the truth is labelled a “racist”. And a person like you (black) who speaks the truth is labelled an “Uncle Tom”. Or worse… I personally don’t think it was at all coincidental that the accusations against Bill Cosby only came out strongly after he had begun to speak out against problems in the “black community.”

              I just don’t know the answer…

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        • dalethorn says:

          The overarching problem is mindless indoctrination, mostly from addictive habit. There’s little of substance in these protests, but lots of anger built up from imagined hurt fueled by paranoia. As a white person, I have little or no sense of culture outside of church (perhaps), but even that has pretty well gone away. TV and Hollywood culture has mostly or entirely replaced whatever culture us anglo-types ever had. Maybe there are some remnants of ‘white’ culture remaining – Italians, Germans, Jews, whatever – not fully absorbed as yet – but most of that is fading away. Black culture though – from my perspective – seems nearly as strong as ever, and a large percentage of that culture looks to me to be negative. It doesn’t look like that’s going to change, meaning these protests and other related problems will go on forever, needlessly, and they’ll continue hurting the black victims. When and if these violent episodes threaten white communities directly, you will see the beginnings of a race war of sorts, and it doesn’t take a genius to imagine how that will end. If we have ANY leadership in this USA, those leaders need to stand up right now and scream at the top of their lungs “Hey people, when you’re detained by police, do not argue with them outside of presenting facts that they need to know, do not ever touch them or ‘get in their face’, and never, ever resist arrest or run”. If that advice coming from a leader should sound too oppressive, then the minority communities have a serious problem that needs real leadership to fix.

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        • oldiadguy says:

          “I mentioned my race and profession earlier. I think it is important in assessing blacks. It is my opinion that any black working in a field close to a true meritocracy will be very different than these community organizing types.”

          I would add married black working men to that positive group. I’ve met many over the years. They work hard, stay faithful to their wives, own and maintain their homes, go to church, educate and raise respectful children. They are the opposite of the stereotypes of black men that you often hear or that we see in the videos.

          One such gentleman grew up in the shadow of Pruitt Igoe. He was an over the road truck driver, married with a couple of kids. He bought a rundown building, rehabbed it and moved in. He then bought the building next door and rehabbed it and had family move in. This went on for years, till he rehabbed most of the block. I don’t recall ever having a call for service on that block. He was a good man.

          Later, after I was promoted and transferred to a north end district. I would drive an area of fine old homes on quite Sunday afternoons. These homes were built by wealthy families at the beginning of the 20th century. I saw the present owners working hard to maintain these grand old houses.

          On one occasion, the owner saw me admiring his house and he invited me in for a 10 cent tour, complete with the history of the home and the families that lived there. I was amazed at his knowledge of the home, it’s inhabitants and the knowledge concerning the architectural features and exotic inlaid woods. He beamed with pride discussing the home he had obtained and maintained for his family. He was also a good man.

          After viewing video after video of black thugs acting out, we tend to forget that they are a small part of the greater black community. For every black thug out stealing, fighting or rioting, there are thousands of hard working black men and women who are just trying to get by like the rest of us. In my career, I learned that thugs come in all flavors, black, white, red, yellow and brown. However, most folks, no matter the skin color, are just folks wanting the best for themselves and their families.

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        • John Denney says:

          “Blacks that can’t make a living in the private sector blame their failures on whites. And no amount of wealth or power can overcome it.”

          The Four Pillars of Personal Prosperity:
          1) Can-do attitude – You can’t succeed unless you keep trying.
          2) Diligence – Hard to be a success if you’re a slacker.
          3) Continuous Learning – Knowledge is indeed powerful
          4) Trustworthiness – If people don’t trust you, they won’t even let you walk their dog.

          These apply regardless of age, gender, skin coloration, even disabilities.
          They can be given to no one, only encouraged, and their opposites discouraged.

          So, what’s the governments part? The main job of the government (We the People) is to defend each person’s life, liberty, and property.

          BTW, I’m a software engineer too, and glad to have you here. 🙂

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    • oldiadguy says:

      Welcome to the Treehouse. Like you, I started lurking during the Zimmerman case. I started commenting during the Mike Brown case, as it was in my backyard and I had some experience in the issues being discussed.

      I would not underestimate the possibility of outsiders being behind the violence during the demonstrations. Lets using Ferguson as an example. According to info I received from numerous officers, they started receiving intelligence from sources the evening of the shooting that “outsiders” were trying to agitate violence among the local thugs. The information was very specific and indicated that extreme violence was being discussed. That is one of the reasons the LEA involved came out with the SWAT teams and Bearcats so early.

      By the next day, I started hearing the same information from neighbors who had friends or family in the area. Over the weeks that followed, I had the opportunity to speak with a number of black Ferguson residents who said the same thing. People outside the community came in and started to call for violence against the police, the City and the white business community. An intel officer I knew from my PD days told me that he had worked the detail and he identified a couple of the local professional agitators standing behind the mobs.

      In the case of Ferguson, the agent provocateurs had a fertile ground to plant the seeds of violence. Did it happen in Baltimore? Don’t know, but a lot of the players seemed to be in place.

      Take Care

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      • Dixie says:

        Maybe Sundance had the benefit of your experience, or not…regardless, obviously CTH got it right. He certainly did identify all the agitators immediately.

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        • oldiadguy says:

          Yes, Sundance and the CTH did in fact identify many of the agitators and groups. However, the agitators that we identified were the ones operating in plain view. The agitators I’m concerned with were operating in the shadows. There was a lot more going on that was never reported by the media or law enforcement.

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  11. Justice_099 says:

    Anybody else think the reason liberals want these riots, out of control crime, and white victimization is to force whites to ask for segregation, undoing the civil rights, etc? Is this their way of getting back at republicans for winning at civil rights? Like an ‘I told you so!’?

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    • Blonde in Red says:

      Wow. That would certainly be an odd, bizarro-world twist.

      I dunno, darlin’ J_099. The Leftist m00nbats are shuffling in the illegal Brown, diseased hordes and cray-cray Muslims and forcing them into ‘little town USA’.

      I think there is something far more scary and nefarious going on.

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    • Lou says:

      I think Section 8 housing needs to be scrutinized more closely, and maybe that’s the endgame. not exactly sure.

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      • GoneGalting says:

        I’ve been a section 8 landlord. It needs to be abolished. Let them live 8-9 to a house. Just recently in Philly, a “family” left the stove on and burned down their home and the neighbor. The negligent family simply moved next door to grandmas house. My question is: shouldn’t they have been consolidated in one house anyway? The ability to squirt out a baby shouldn’t qualify you for housing.

        O/T: years ago I enter a section 8 tenants home. Flat screen TVs. No surprise. But what shocked me was the expanded cable package with multiple cable boxes. She was having her 4th kid. On phone with the father in prison, she says to me, “I’m moving as soon as I have this baby; they are giving me w bigger voucher (4BR).” She later had a miscarriage. I Came away thinking she was more distraught about losing the new house than the baby. Just another eye opener in my journey to becoming a race realist.

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    • Eskie Mom says:

      No. They are doing this to bring about their “glorious revolution”. When 0bama said “fundamentally change America”, this is what he meant. This is what all the swooning was about.

      They will continue until either they succeed or the rest of us put a stop to it.

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    • Mr. Frosty says:

      The plan is to grind the mostly white middle-class between the hoodrats and DHS. They want a group of legal, gun owning whites to open fire on “protesting teens”. A huge race riot will break out and DHS will ignore rampaging diversity and attack/disarm the “racist” middle-class whites. Then they can continue to import diversity until they are 51% of the population. At that point they will hold referendums to abolish the constitution and seize all white-owned assets, just like Zimbabwe and South Africa.

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  12. LiveFreeOrDie1776 says:

    This “giving space” BS on the part of Democrat politicians has got to stop. If we had a real opposition party in this country they might want to bring that up.

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    • Mr. Izz says:

      There is an opposition party, but if they say anything, they are labeled racist. When the entire media alphabet is calling all republicans racist, it really hurts the party. It sucks all around.

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  13. czarowniczy says:

    Soooooo – early on she thanks the NoI for their parts in preventing (greater) violence and now she excuses from any part in it the imported vandals. Wow, too bad the POtuS is such a lame duck (whoops, almost put an ‘i’ in there) or he could make her am ambassador. I haer the Rwanda and Zimbabwe slots are recruiting…
    BTW, is it just me or is the POtuS’s ‘bitter clinger’ remark taking on a whole new shading?

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  14. misterpasta says:

    I wish to ‘destroy’ sometime tomorrow around noonish. I’d like to destroy several vehicles and throw trash cans at black people. Will I be ‘given space’ for this?

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  15. mickie says:

    Les, I don’t think your question was rude at all. I hope you get an answer, I’m curious as well.

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    • GoneGalting says:

      I answered. I have plenty to say. A good friend lives the life in SoCal. Very successful guy in IT. He absolutely hates black people.

      We often talk about how our race will be our uniform in any race conflict. Sadly, nothing has made me more anti-black in my 40 years than dealing with blacks. If there were ever any sort of conflict, there are a lot of blacks that would want the whites to win, if not outright helping white people.

      If it were left up to us, we’d solve this overnight.

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  16. yakmaster2 says:

    Perhaps the Obama Administration’s use of the narrative of police brutality towards Black men (reinforcing a pre-existing suspicion/perception of Blacks) is a red herring.
    I believe the strategy, aided and abetted by the msm, may be to divert attention from Obama’s real objective—the DEMISE OF NATIONALISM, which paves the way for a new world order. The EU model of multicountry governance (originally thought of as security) has turned Europe into immigrant pockets of cultures who often don’t assimilate into the destination countries.
    Now here, Obama has thrown open the doors to refugee immigration and illegal immigration while, at the same time, everyone in his administration preaches multiculturalism as if the concept is their religion. Rather than assimilation, the new ideal becomes accomodation. On every level, pay homage to whatever a particular culture identifies with and whatever country they identify with. Bye Bye Nationalism and eventually, Hello World Without Borders. Run by people who know what’s best.
    Just sayin’.

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    • dalethorn says:

      This makes absolutely perfect sense. NAFTA and GATT, followed by secret deals with Iran, ISIS, and who knows what else – all lead to internationalism, but the people themselves aren’t as easy to change as signing papers on trade deals. There’s an old saying that money talks and BS walks … and that tells me that the real goal in internationalization is to protect the banksters and their wealthy clients’ money from being seized or otherwise tampered with by outbursts of nationalism on the part of any people or nation. A secret deal can be made and millions of people die, and nobody is the wiser.

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    • John Denney says:

      American nationalism is different in that rather than being defined by boundaries and ethnicity, we’re defined by an idea:
      We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, that among these Rights are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
      We unite to defend each person’s life, liberty, and property from criminals and enemies who do not respect those Rights.
      All are welcome to join us, as long as they subscribe to the same fundamentals.

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  17. Hot Potato says:

    The Whitehouse is sending 3 aids to the funeral of Freddy Gray. I am so disgusted that I can’t even speak!

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    • dalethorn says:

      Only Communists and their allies could be so heartless as to stomp on thousands of American veterans, but send emissarys to honor a career criminal.

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    • georgiafl says:

      Politics – Obama gotta keep ‘my people’ in the Democrat corral.

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    • BobNoxious says:

      You are not serious…. They cannot be so dumb…

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    • ThankYou,Treepers says:

      Described in black street slang, BHO is “a chocolate coated white boy faggot from Hawaii” who knows he’s not “real”.

      There have been videos on the net with black guys expressing just those words about him, one of whom was a federal government employee.

      Additionally there is a Chicago native black actor about his age who has disclosed that back at the beginning BHO’s handlers hired him to train BHO to sound and act “like a an educated south side African-American”.

      http://www.infowars.com/mancow-muller-obama-is-an-actor-trained-by-harry-lennix/

      BHO’s biggest insecurity among many is the fear of suffering the ultimate humiliation of this age when Blackness is worshiped by the left and corporate media of having black popular opinion denounce him as the artificial contrivance of American rooted black manliness that he is.

      So because of his insecurities about being completely foreign to the black American experience, BHO’s constantly overcompensating in hope of avoiding scrutiny / rejection by blacks.

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  18. BobNoxious says:

    Here’s the full version of the video of the attack on the bat near Camden Yards…. You cannot tell me racism isn’t involved and motivating these “protesters”… Women, including one IN A WHEELCHAIR, aren’t safe…

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    • benzy says:

      I can only HOPE that the guy wearing the “Security” sweatshirt wasn’t PAID for his “work” at the game. He didn’t even make an attempt to say “stop” or “don’t do that”… just stood there and watched it all unfold.

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    • Jett Black says:

      Wonder what happened to the first guy who responded to the thrown trashcan? The pack went after him, one guy stole his jacket and wrapped it around his neck, then you see the pack pushing down the street and off camera to the left. It’s like they’re taking the guy away for more abuse. I can’t imagine he didn’t get seriously beaten, given what the ferals did seconds later to the big guy three ferals hit with the redbull table. Note to self–don’t ever expect scumbags to fight fair.

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  19. TKim says:

    What many black people don’t understand, I think, is that the majority of white people–seemingly passive and busy with our lives and never making waves– are not their problem. Many blacks believe we tell one another racist jokes, use derogatory terms for blacks, cheer when a black man dies in police custody.

    You screech that Black Lives Matter to a majority of people who think that is bizarre because to us, all lives matter. From conception to old age, we cherish life. All lives.

    But somehow you believe those who are not back see you as less than human, your life without value.

    Well, sorry, the ranters and ravers of the black conspiracy industry have sold you down the river. I can assure you that the average white person is not plotting ill toward you, doesn’t have a race based agenda, and if he or she has a free moment is–sorry– not obsessing over what blacks are up to.

    Sadly, there is a minority of whites who ARE. They live on the fringes, live and breathe the kind of raw hate and aspirational violence that would give a night rider pause. It is the kind of demonic hate you may be familiar with by watching and reading the type of hate and violence porn put forth by say, leaders of the NBPP.

    They are out there, itching for a race war. And their ideation is not to jump on a single black man walking to work, or to shoot a black baby in a stroller. They are the ones who dream of huge terrorist acts, who envision mass murder with the casual air a normal person gives to wiping out a nest of hornets or an ant pile.

    It isn’t about avoiding the chilling hate sites; most are underground, hidden in the deep web to stay one step ahead of LE. But one can almost feel them rumbling beneath the surface.

    When your vicious gate groups spew their rhetoric, please remember the laws of physics. I would prefer that the white hate groups not be provoked to action, but instead exchange their evil thoughts and beliefs underground. Even your biggest pro violence, anti white groups are a minority. The majority of all races wants peace. Please, enough provoking. Evil has taken enough of our country. Do not for a minute believe that you are going to remain uncontested.

    The white hate groups may be a minority, but dear Lord they have the power of Hell in them.

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    • Jett Black says:

      You are so right. Neither the street scum nor the dindunuffins in goobermint realize what their stupid acts and enabling of black racist violence could and probably will at some point unleash. Do they really think all the evil types who bombed churches and schools and did lynchings and assassinations are just gone? Only very few were ever prosecuted. They’ve just been quiet. If black racism crosses certain lines, which it may have done in Baltimore, even reasonable people will feel compelled to join or at least quietly support those who will take the action goobermint won’t. Watch for such actions in Dundalk and Hampden, if Baltimore turns out to be the “canary in the coal mine.”

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    • spottedpony says:

      When you have the likes of Barry and Eric instigating this hatred toward whites – I’d say we have a huge mindf@ck going on here. Blacks come in all shades and not all are alike but …… the majority of blacks are easily manipulated. They are not that far removed from their tribes in Africa, as whites or half-whites we must remember that.

      I saw a video of Baruti (top agitator behind scene) hours after Brown was shot, telling the local Canfield folks that the white authorities are the DEVIL. To me, calling me the Devil is not a big deal but to an African – well, it’s like saying this person is the VERY WORST the world has to offer.

      The black organizations (NOI, Panthers, etc) feel the South belongs to them. They want it back…… so if I lived in the South (south of 40 degrees or so) I’d think twice about staying. Too much money has been put into ‘Operation Take It Back’ for it to go away anytime soon.

      Stay safe out there.

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  20. Page Turner says:

    Blacks are rioting against their own incompetence. The mayor is a black woman (4 of the last 5 mayors were black, O’Malley the one exception); the police commissioner is black, the deputy commissioner is black, the school superintendent is black, the majority of the city council is black and 65% of Baltimore is black.

    Furthermore, Baltimore has had Democrat mayors since 1967.

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  21. BobNoxious says:

    CREDIBLE THREAT AGAINST BALTIMORE POLICE:

    Crips and Bloods are teaming up to “take out” Baltimore cops…

    http://www.wbaltv.com/news/police-gangs-team-up-to-take-out-law-enforcement-officers/32590564

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  22. joesbabygirl says:

    But wait, MSM was screaming that all the “violent” looters and rioters were juveniles.

    Amazing how all those “juveniles” who were rioting and looting were bussed in by the main agitators. Shouldn’t they have a law against bussing juveniles to a city to commit crimes? But when the mayor makes a “safe space for them to commit crimes, that is giving them the go ahead to be criminals. So, they are not criminals at all. (sarcasm)

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  23. yakmaster2 says:

    Lynch is in and Holder is out as of today’s swearing in so surely our Justice Department will now be working diligently through CRS to tamp down on the street violence and targeting of police officers. After all, much has been made of Lynch’s high regard for law enforcement. (sarc)

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  24. Roy says:

    “her administration intentionally gave the violent protesters “space” to “destroy”, riot, loot, cause mayhem and attack people.”

    This is a criminal decision. I hope every business owner and individual harmed by her decision to encourage and permit wanton destruction sues her personally, and the city.

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    • J.Taylor says:

      We all know what she meant. I may not agree with certain political figures, but I’m not petty enough to believe she wanted people to destroy her city.

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  25. Lars says:

    The Government has technology designed to disperse crowds of any size, it is call microwave and causes a perception that “hey my skin feels like it is burning”. Duh

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  26. TKim says:

    Black kids get the message load and clear: if you served in the military honorably, or you laid down your life as a firefighter or police officer, if you labored for years as an inner city teacher, a missionary, a storekeeper who made sure your area of the ghetto had fresh vegetables and baby formula, your black life meant little. But thugs? Things get riots and protests, a remark from the POTUS, a huge funeral with civil rights activists sitting side by side.

    Freddie Gray may have–figuring the statistics–been a few short weeks away from being shot by a rival thug. Or his best friend. Then instead of a state funeral his family would have been scrambling to pay for a casket and a burial plot. Because a black life ended by another black doesn’t mean squat.

    Why do they want to give us ALL of the power? We even make their deaths with noting.

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    • Eskie Mom says:

      What happened to Freddie Gray could have, originally, had nothing to do with this arrest but just been a cruel twist of fate. I had forgotten about it (mid 80s), but my mother had an injury to her cervical vertebrae (she was stopped to turn & someone hit her, going 60 mph, & didn’t even hit the brakes) that essentially made her a walking time bomb. She could have had high risk surgery (paralysis) to fuse the vertebrae & if she didn’t, as little as an ordinary fall (just the right jolt to her neck) could have severed her spinal cord &/ or crushed her trachea. God obviously Watched out for her, but we worried about it for a long time.

      Freddie Gray & his family wouldn’t have known about this unless he’d had an MRI. My mom wasn’t in any real pain after a while & only pursued it, legally, because it totaled her brand new, expensive sports car. She found out about the severity of the injury incidentally.

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  27. J.Taylor says:

    Outsiders were the agitators, traveling from city to city, firing up already emotional people. The police have even found links to social media accounts from each city…it’s not so black & white, it’s gray. Remember, all it takes is one person in a theater to yell fire or on a plane to yell bomb…

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