Tonight Vice President Mike Pence and Senator Kamala Harris square-off in the vice presidential debate from Salt Lake City, Utah. The debate is being held at The University of Utah in Salt Lake City, and is being moderated by Susan Page, Washington Bureau chief, USA Today.
Moderator Susan Page, a deep Washington DC insider and party ally of the Democrats, is currently writing a biography of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and has been working closely with the speaker for several months. [Livestream Links Below]
Trump/Pence Campaign Livestream – CSPAN Livestream – Fox News Livestream Link
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Pence did so well and Kamala so poorly that the bias of the moderator and her questions are being overlooked.
We have a problem with these debate formats and moderators and their questions. (Who approved this stacking of the deck?)
Let’s have the citizens pick the topics and have the candidates ask the questions within those topics to each other. 3-5 minute answers with 1-3 minute rebuttals. No topic to be brought up twice.
And the moderator becomes only the monitor of time.
That’s what people want to see.
No bias or rigged questions or prearranged answers. And watch candidates defend their policies for the good of the American people.
Every question – and some had very long wined ups – were phrased as ‘when did you stop beating your wife’ set ups.
Notice how Page compared our death rate from Whuflu to Canada’s and not the 7 western hemisphere nations that have higher deaths per million than we do?
Every question she asked was tainted like that. “All the experts say” blah, blah, blah. Harris was given the equivalent of a 20 yard head start and Pence still won the race.
I agree. All the questions were framed from a liberal perspective. That said, I think other than the questions, Susan Page had less of a thumb on the scale than Chris Wallace did. She was a bit more aggressive in cutting off Pence, but otherwise both candidates were allowed to respond. She didn’t “correct the record” or try to “hold candidates to account”. So in part, I think the pass she is getting on her partisan setups is that by comparison, Wallace was such a failure.
“Aggressive cutting off Pence”?
It was so obvious that we started to measure it.
Harris was getting as much as 20 seconds over Pence.
Agree the reforms are BADLY needed.
“candidates ask the questions” They will monologue. Count their question time against them to keep control of that.
“moderator becomes only the monitor of time” I was fine with Pence running over, or using time for other questions to return to unfinished business.
BUT …. I remember opening and closing statements at past debates. We need those again; .
THEN … any overages (or under use of time) within the Q&A segment, counts against (or for) the time allowed in the closing statement. And there is a monitor (shot clock) available to each on that, and the mike turns off when the clock runs out.
John Redwood’s Diary contributor?
Allow use of video clips showing the opposing candidate is lying. Most Americans now need to see video clips of Biden/Harris promising to show fracking and other things that they deny in their debates. Americans now don’t listen so well, but will watch and absorb very short video clips.
It’s 2020 and let candidates use video clips related to the topic.
For example when Biden said AntiFa was an idea, Trump’s rebuttal would be a 10 sec video clip of AntiFa in riot gear, with their symbols showing and the arson.
One other thing about this Kamala bint is that she doesn’t have children – thank goodness, imagine her as a Mother??!!
When she married “Dougie,” he had kids, so she is a stepmother. Something they could have brought out but didn’t. They pretty much have ignored his race & their interracial marriage.
She said in an interview when she was running for president that she would legalize prostitution because women shouldn’t be shamed because of how they make money to put food on their table.
I’ll agree with making money to put food on the table but to legalize prostitution in an area that is fraught with other criminal activities like drugs, child trafficking & pornography, black markets, assaults, murders, etc.
Decriminalizing prostitution makes no more sense than decriminalizing fentynal. But I’m sure Creepy Uncle Joe would wholeheartedly agree w/Kamala.
IMHAO, this is all part of the Democrat
Communist Fascists’ scheme to overthrow governments across the U.S., just like the virus & just like the riots.
What a huge tell from the Obama Shadow Government. Harris had the wording prepared and the pause gave it away….
Q: “are you going to ban fracking ?
A: from Harris “Joe Biden will not ban fracking”.
Meaning… rest assured Radical Left we will implement the Green New Deal and we will ban fracking because If elected Joe Biden is out and I am the President ( Obama’s Puppet) the day after inauguration.
Yes that is what it means.
Kamala would shake her head ‘yes’ as the question was being asked as if saying to herself, “oh, I remember my answer for this one”. She would take NO time to start her answer. No thought needed.
I found it a bit telling on the last question from the 8th grade girl how Pence answered first and NAILED IT using the RGB / Scalia love / hate relationship. When it went to Kamala she knew her answer wasn’t good enough so she scrambled and gave a very poor answer.
At one point, the moderator said, “This is a good segue for the next question“ and, immediately, Kamala shook her up and down and said, “Yes, it is” before the next question had even been asked!
Shook her *head* up and down…
She’s got a lot of practice at shaking her head up and down. Ask Willie Brown.
My wife and I noticed that too!
This we noticed too! Yup, she knew the questions. I wonder who the leader was this time?
I really think in some ways, Donald Trump has been about little else but clearing a fresh path for a real, untainted American President like Mike Pence to emerge from this period (2000-2024) of war and insurrection and political feuding. Trump knows Trump means well and that he is doing what’s right for the future but he also knows he’s not really the ideal president, that he’s only doing it to prevent others from hijacking the Presidency. He is in fact, protecting it. And will pass it on safely to future President Pence. Thus all the plots to get Trump out and elevate Pence to the Presidency can be seen as an attempt to remove Pence from the bubble of political protection he currently enjoys, and expose him to ruination before he wins in 2024. Thrust him into the Presidency after getting Trump out by impeachment and they can finally smear Christian President Pence, and start impeaching their true target before he’s truly been elected and made powerful by us.
Not sure it is his conscious plan, but brilliant point re him serving as a holding force while Pence positions himself.
I got the impression last night there is more to Pence than I have credited – he seems anti establishment and “real” for lack of a better word.
God help us all, though, if Trump loses. Truly, a Dark Ages will descend upon us. And even if he wins, the war will probably just be joined at that point – but at least we will have the executive branch.
I would bet if he does win, all bets are off and the indictments (likely to implicated the Annointed One(s)) will begin to issue. And hundreds of exec orders to follow fixing whatever can be fixed (like giving millions a year to left wing undercover groups such as colleges, unions, etc.)
And just like clockwork I hear Pelosi is now looking at the the 25A to “get Trump” out and get the suddenly scary Mike Pence into office and into a bullseye of fake news, daily hate and witchhunty impeachment. The Dems and their CCP overlords see the pieces being arranged by Trump to overturn Roe (Pence, Barrett) and they want to continue their baby killing for profit schemes. God protect Mike Pence, America’s future President.
Not really the ideal President? Oh my……You could not be more incorrect. Pence does fit the suit well…..but Pence could in no way be an effective President under these circumstances. If he does run in 2024 I hope that the last 8 years under the greatest President ever will prepare him for the final take down of the Democrat Party. As a side…If President Trump doesn’t win this hands down then I will be dumb founded. Truly our citizens ….at least half of them are beyond help. I also hope that our half of the citizens will take up the cause and push back mightily. After all it was only a small but courageous group of Patriots that won the revolutionary war. If this election is stolen…and it will be as obvious as the 2018 election…I pray that we are just as Patriotic.
It the election is stolen it will by a Pyrrhic victory for the Progressives, they will likely not be around for ’24. Most likely we’ll have a Civil War, or if we’re lucky, a Coup d’Etat followed by a Deep State cleansing.
BREAKING: President Trump Announces He Will Not Participate in Next Debate After Presidential Debate Commission Changes Next Debate Format to Virtual to Help Joe Biden.
No problem the die is cast. Trump cannot gain grown debating Biden. It’s to much of a mismatch.
The only decisions left are the “undecided” deciding whether they will vote for Kamala Harris or not.
My dots don’t connect the same way.
Can you imagine the field day they would have muting President Trump’s mic indiscriminately and not doing the same to OBiden?? The die is cast. No one will be changing their minds, anyway.
I think an invisible Biden the last few weeks of the campaign will hurt. Political adds (where Biden has an advantage) are not enough to get people off their butts and out to vote. Basement Biden will continue to have tightly scripted, unwatched events and nothing else.
Pence did such a good job explaining and defending the Trump admin, and in highlighting problems with the Harris/Biden ticket, that I almost would not mind if that debate performance hung around a little longer and was allowed to sink in.
The only reason virtual would matter is if Biden is being coached behind the camera. Each candidate should have a person at the other candidates location to monitor that.
If each candidate can see the other candidate fully at all times and they each have a person monitoring the virtual sites, it would not really matter.
After all, TV debates are all virtual to me. They are on TV.
Mike Pence crushed it last night! He out-debated Kamala by a mile. A vote for Sleepy Joe is a vote for Kamala and she has proven that she is not presidential material. She is Obama in a skirt but with Hillary’s nasty personality. The undecided/swing voters better keep that in mind now. Overall, much better debate than the 1st debate between POTUS and Sleepy Joe (although I blame that largely on Chris Wallace). Although the moderator Susan Page was annoying at times with her interruptions, (“thank you, Vice President Pence”), she was far better than Chris Wallace (what a jerk he’s become!). POTUS should take some notes from Pence when it comes to composure while still hammering Sleepy Joe. The base is gonna show up and vote for Trump/Pence anyway. But we need those swing/undecided voters too. The more votes for Trump/Pence the better and we can overcome Kamala/Sleepy Joe’s cheating via voter fraud.
== VP Pence (calm, cool, collective) ==
– nailed Kamala on her record as San Francisco DA (seemed that he remembered Tusli Gabbard’s takedown of Kamala)
– debunked the Charlottsville lie
– pointed out that Democrats didn’t engage in a peaceful transition of power after Hillary lost.
– mentioned the First Step Act passed by POTUS
– warned about massive government takeover if Kamala/Sleepy Joe take over (green new deal, healthcare, etc)
– mentioned that Kamala opposed the USMCA plus Sleepy Joe’s role in NAFTA
– exposed Sleepy Joe’s plagiarism
– exposed Sleepy Joe being a cheerleader for China
– mentioned Obama/Sleepy Joe’s failure with Swine Flu
– mentioned all the jobs lost during the Obama/Sleepy Joe years
– mentioned Obama/Sleepy Joe’s failure to kill terrorist Baghdadi
– all substance
== Kamala (unlikable, snarky, and emotional) ==
– flip flops on fracking
– won’t answer if she & Sleepy Joe will pack the Supreme Court
– lies about the Charlottesville “fine people” hoax
– won’t condemn the violent rioters, looters, Antifa, etc
– won’t hold China accountable
– lied that POTUS called Covid-19 a hoax
– bragged about the neocons & Rinos (John Kasick, Colin Powell, nameless guy’s widow Cindy, etc) backing the Kamala/Sleepy Joe ticket
– said that she won’t take the Covid-19 vaccine (I thought the Dems were against anti-Vaxxers)
– Russia, Russia, Russia!
– lied that POTUS lost the trade war with China
– lied about Trump insulting the troops and even invoked the nameless guy (did they forget that they hated him when he ran for president in 2008?)
– lies constantly and won’t answer the tough questions
– lack of style and no substance
I believe Mike Pence just won the election.
Yes…but all the little snarky children will be talking about flies…..Geez FOX even stooped to that this am Sandraaaa….had to show pics of the fly….man these people are gutter.
Went to look up more about fly-drones. This is Snopes, but it seems plausible (and kind of horrifying). Snopes has a photo:
“Is this a mosquito?
“No. It’s an insect spy drone for urban areas, already in production, funded by the US Government. It can be remotely controlled and is equipped with a camera and a microphone. It can land on you, and it may have the potential to take a DNA sample or leave RFID tracking nanotechnology on your skin. It can fly through an open window, or it can attach to your clothing until you take it in your home. “
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/insect-spy-drone/
You cannot make a sow’s ear into a silk purse!
disman…you can add that Kamala lied about the situation surrounding Lincoln’s late SCOTUS pick in 1864.
The Whole Race-Card Thing Is So “Played-Out” After 8-Years Of Obama That Nobody Listens Anymore.. Kabbala Tried To Squeeze A Couple More Miles Outta That Tired Old “Retread” With The “Tiki-Torche’s” And “Vein’s Bulging In The Neck” Cudgel That Has Long Ago Lost It’s Sting… Seemed Forced And Not Authentic Looking At All….
Why didn’t you know Kabbala was coached by the Butt Bully Bootygeig?
Yep. The “veins bulging!” business makes me want to yawn.
It’s also insulting. Kind of like when you’re a kid and the big kids try to scare you with stories about the “BOOGEYMAN IS GOING TO GET YOU”
Please.
I noticed right off the bat that Harris was closer to the camera & in vivid color.
Pence was minimized & washed out a bit.
You can tell she was magnified by the lettering behind both of them.
The lettering was larger behind her. His lettering smaller.
Very Obvious cheat.
Also noticed her darker makeup on her face compared to her neck…..gotta pull off that…..I am the first Black Woman ….Blah . Blah….Blah….Ha HA HAAAA…Cruella wearing Black Face….
No more debates! They only serve as a gotcha questions platform for the Left. Rallies! Rallies! As far as “undecided voters” -who the F are they? If you’re so much of a retard that you cant see what the two candidates are about then I dont want you’re sorry ass voting anyway. Stay home.
I know. Any voters STILL on the fence after the past four years .. why bother.. they’re clueless. Just tell them you heard that the China flu has mutated this fall, and it now lives inside mailboxes and voting booths! ??
An undecided voter is either 1) a liar or 2) stupid.
The contrast between Pence and Harris was extremely noticeable. Pence is running with a record of Trump/Pence achievements whereas Harris is running from her record of sleazy things she has done in office.
For me, the fly definitely preferred Pence as it seemed comfortable and secure in its “roost” on Pence’s head.
If Kamala/Biden lose, This ends her future Presidential wishes.
She acted like a teenager.
A C- student of Hillary.
This is the dilemma of the Communist. They aren’t used to free elections, number one. We haven’t had one in decades before 2016.
Number two: Communists can’t defend their own platform. They must sneak in the back door, because nobody in their right mind invites them through the front. Like vampires, Communists wither when exposed to sunlight.
So.. lies, disinformation and character assassination is all they got. Their platforms are never up for discussion. Not ever. They simply can’t discuss real issues in a rational manner.
Editorial of The New York Sun | October 8, 2020
The Vice Presidential debate this evening underscored what a wise choice President Trump made when he picked Governor Mike Pence as his running mate. That in and of itself isn’t news (we endorsed Mr. Pence for a second term as soon as it was known with whom Vice President Biden would be running). What we just saw was just how politically skilled the man from Indiana is in the high-stakes arena.
https://www.nysun.com/editorials/trump-chose-well-in-his-vice-president-debate/91290/
Telemundo Deletes Twitter Poll following VP Debate After Kamala Gets CRUSHED by Pence 74% to 26%
By Jim Hoft – Published October 8, 2020 at 8:44am
It was very clear last night that Democrat Kamala Harris got crushed by Vice President Mike Pence in the vice presidential debate. This was despite the liberal moderator and the slanted questions that were all in her favor.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/telemundo-deletes-twitter-poll-following-vp-debate-kamala-gets-crushed-pence-74-26/
Hello everyone! See, this is exactly what I mean about polls can do anything you want them to do and if they do not match your NARRATIVE, you just DELETE them, like with bleachbit, and start over. EASY PEASY!
I only watched about 2 minutes of it. Saw the climate change question to Pence.
Im yelling “Reject the premise of the question! Reject reject reject!”
The whole question was a liberal statement of BS. Entertaining that question with ANY response without FIRST rejecting the assertions made in it is a failure. .
There werent any ‘record-setting’ hurricanes this year.
California wildfires are caused by ARSON and a lack of forest management!
AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH CO2!
If we dont start pushing back on these insane notions right now, we are going to be fighting an uphill battle forever.
You are so right! The climate hoax is a linchpin of UN’s Agenda 21 New/One World Order. It is all about herding people like sheep, erasing sovereign nations, controlling where we live and work, our economy and what we eat.
It’s all about the *control,* but globalists conceal their totalitarianism in a seemingly benign “concern” for the “environment.” How selfless of them //S
Even in an era of 98 percent negative “Mainstream” press coverage (including simple NON-coverage of many achievements) of a Republican president, the incumbency remains a huge advantage. Voters know instinctively that “Ties go to the reigning champion — the challenger has to win DECISIVELY.” The president or vice president thus does any challenger a FAVOR by allowing that challenger to appear on the same stage with the incumbent on an equal footing, often giving the challenger his or her only CHANCE to pull even in the public perception. The incumbent also has the huge leverage of being able to say, without penalty, “Really busy working 16-hour days keeping America safe these days; no time for debates this time around.”
Yes, I know President Trump figures he and his vice president can win, even against a two-person tag team (as indeed they have.) But it puzzles me that the Trump campaign didn’t USE any of that leverage, this time around, by announcing way back in July: “There will be four debates — three presidential and one vice-presidential — right? For any two of those debates, we have no problem with the moderators or panelists being hard-core, “Never-Trump,” registered Democrats who will pursue their standard, made-up narratives, as usual. Heck, you can pick people who have interned under Joe Biden, who are working on fawning biographies of Nancy Pelosi or Saul Alinsky or Vladimir Lenin; we don’t care. But if you want us to participate, simply to achieve something approaching a 50-50 balance, the OTHER two moderators or panels WILL BE selected EXCLUSIVELY from the following list of highly experienced, articulate and capable members of academia and the media, who MIGHT actually ask a tough question or two of the challengers: Mark Levin, Victor Davis Hanson, Maria Bartiromo, Laura Ingraham, Walter Williams, Larry Elder, Lou Dobbs . . .
— V.S.
I noticed when Kamala was talking to the parents of the girl killed as Isis hostage she was smiling and it seemed wrong to me; then watched her speaking of Breonna and her mother and she was very solemn; like the one with Breonna was practiced for effect and the hostage was something she wasn’t prepared for….this bothered me a lot for some reason.
There is a saying about using the words “and” and “but” Using and means you are furthering the statement you are making.Using butt means you are negating your prior statement.
She’s a nice person and I would like to see her be nicer.
She’s a nice person but I would like to see her be nicer.
Kamala said she “feels for the parents of the ISIS victim …but…” then she launched into a Trump attack. She could care less about the victim as it made Biden look bad.
I can barely take Kamala’s smirk. She had plastic surgery to make her appear more pleasant and they put a constant smile on her face. It is such a bad job, it looks like the Joker from Batman.
And her cackle, smirk, and Blasey- Ford little girl voice is so off putting. She is a vapid twit but is also a complete phony. It’s hard to watch.
Fact Check: Kamala Harris Makes Up False Quote from Abraham Lincoln
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/08/fact-check-kamala-harris-makes-up-false-quote-from-abraham-lincoln/
The debate between Mike Pence and Kamala Harris was very interesting. Mike Pence did a great job, and he looked like a Vice President and talked like one. Then there was Kamala Harris, Joe Biden’s pick for Vice President. What a laugh, she definitely didn’t act like a Vice President, and her expressions were EVIL, SCARY and she talked and acted like a wild Psycho. What a difference! Fortunately, the woman moderator was okay, I guess. I wish President Trump would have had her instead of that BIAS JERK Chris Wallace, who should be removed from Fox News. President Trump was called by Joe Biden, Racist, Clown, and even told the President of the USA, Shut Up man. What an EVIL JERK Vice President Joe Biden is!!! Joe was listening through his ear piece to his coach on what to say. This was a crooked Debate and Chris Wallace helped Joe Biden all the time and stopped the President of the USA from answering. Fox News, get rid of this BIAS TRAITOR!!! President Trump is REAL, not a phony lying DO NOTHING Politician like Joe Biden. President Trump has done more great things for this country in 46 months, than Lying Corrupt Joe Biden did in 46 years. Vote for President Donald J. Trump November 3, 2020 and keep our country free from Socialism, opened up to work, safe from ANTIFA, and keep our great Police.
Joe, or someone on his behalf, are running commercials in my area saying that they will cancel President TRUMP’s tax breaks.
Gotcha.
FLY Question
Had noticed but additionally heard in recent days….huge unmoving Fly seemingly appeared out of nowhere near end of debate where Pence was clearly in command of evening with neither Pence, nor the moderator or Harris reacting. You would think Harris would not have been able to keep poker face if she saw it, a smirk would have developed. A member of the audience was interviewed and despite being there, with I’m sure jumbo trons at the ready with live feed, didn’t see it. Huge black thing on white background…how could people there not see it??
I think fly was faked and laid in within the screen via the magic of television to make Pence look in bad light and therefore leave an unfavorable image of Republicans.