Is This What Ryan Julison Intended All Along? Or Was It Just Acceptable Collateral Damage?

Many people are noticing the uptick in young black males attacking, and in some recent cases, killing, white people.  One of the connections that joins them all appears just below the surface.   Each of these events are connected, and each of these connections are being totally ignored by the media.

Let’s just look at who was murdered in the last week:

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89-year-old Delbert Belton Murdered (left)

27-year-old Nurse, David Santucci (right)

23-year-old Student, Chris Lane (center)

All of the people involved in the murders, and most of their accomplices, have a self-identified position of advocacy for Trayvon Martin via their own social media accounts.   Yet the legacy media, the national press, appear to completely disconnect themselves from this IN_YOUR_FACE similarity.

However, the sheer open advocacy of this Justice For Trayvon™ motive is enough to make you look deeper to see if there really is a Trayvon Martin related violent pattern here.

If you do a little research, and I do mean ‘just a little’, into news articles – what you find is STAGGERING.

These are just a few which are dated from AFTER the trial completed.

The post trial snapshot is presumably AFTER the media had the opportunity to report all the facts which outlined evidence that George Zimmerman acted in self-defense; and protected himself from a vicious attack by Trayvon Martin.

Tray thumb 11. Jogger Says He was Attacked in Retaliation for Zimmerman Verdict

2. Victim: Attack fueled by Zimmerman verdict

3. Brothers Murdered Over ‘Free Zimmerman’ Sticker?

4. Trayvon supporter smashes Oakland man in the face with a hammer

5. ‘It was terrifying’: Zimmerman protester assaults woman driving daughter to the hospital

6. Trayvon Martin rioters attack white news crew

7. Two white marines attacked by black mob day after verdict

8. Trayvon supporters attack random pedestrians in San Bernardino

9. Trayvonistas break white waiter’s jaw during Trayvon rally

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10. Adams Morgan hate crime was motivated by Zimmerman verdict, police say

11. ‘This is for Trayvon’: Hispanic man ‘was beaten by gang of black youths’ in alleged Zimmerman revenge attack

12. Second Hispanic attacked by rioting Trayvonistas

13. Black Bank Robber says he robbed bank in revenge for Trayvon Martin

14. Black killer’s Facebook page had numerous photos of Trayvon Martin

WHY ?

From the Archives in April 2012 – The search for the root cause(s) of why this is happening take(s) us back to March 2012 and how the media narrative was constructed.

Again, it bears repeating nothing substantial ever changed regarding factual evidence against George Zimmerman from the first nationally published statements of Sanford Florida Police on MARCH 5TH 2012, through TRIAL and George Zimmerman’s acquittal, up to TODAY.

Not since the original Sanford Police Department delivered their initial findings on March 5th, 2012 has anything factually changed surrounding the events of the fatal night, February 26th 2012, when George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin in self-defense.

The historical outline, the known truths, we now share, are a general understanding of the manipulative narratives, and agenda driven interests, formulated by a professional team and spearheaded by Benjamin Crump Esq.   We have been following this closely since March of 2012, doing thousands of hours of research.

On Tuesday February 28th after meeting with lead Sanford Detective Chris Serino, Tracy Martin contacted Benjamin Crump, from the law firm Parks and Crump. In turn Crump hired Sanford attorney Natalie Jackson. Subsequently by Monday March 5th, two days after Trayvon was laid to rest, a specific and intentional strategy to manufacture “media evidence” was created by Benjamin Crump and Natalie Jackson. That outline was then presented and sold by the hired Publicist Ryan Julison.

They began a systematic campaign of optical control.

First, they created the outline of their victim “Trayvon Martin”. The goal in this phase was to portray a personality, and to construct a public image of Trayvon Martin to sell to the media. They needed to create the “hook” for interest. The construct itself need not be real, or even accurate; Indeed the outcome was far from the truth, it just needed to be the most marketable for the purpose of “brand imagery”.

They even went so far as to Trademark the Brand they were creating. Control was the key element, as they set about their sales pitches and storyline(s). Everything stemming after that March 5th, 2012 date was an outcome of their intentional desire to control the narrative and formulate the construct of Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman.

Matt Lauer (left) Ryan Julison (right)

Who? Natalie Jackson and Benjamin Crump picked Ryan Julison , from Orlando based Julison Communications, to create the Trayvon “brand”, the Trayvon media ”image“, and plant the seeds for the upcoming storyline and media strategy.

But why Julison, and perhaps more importantly, and what were the prior associations with Julison that led to their decision?

At this point I must break the narrative and introduce the direct contact this site has now had with Ryan Julison. In early April 2012, we had outlined his connection and participation, but the “why” remained a question unanswered.

Within the answer to that question we find the trail to Washington DC and Julison’s prior support, advancement and advocacy for the Black Farmers Pigford lawsuit settlement.

Within the prior networking connections to this lawsuit, and within the media consulting/advocacy, is where the outline of the Congressional Black Caucus and substantive race-dependent civil rights leaders such as Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and the NAACP’s Ben Jealous are connected to Ryan Julison through Benjamin Crump and Natalie Jackson and the Pigford II Lawyer, Greg Francis. (more on that later).

In early research we shared the visible similarity between the Trayvon Martin narrative, the intended civil lawsuits stemming from the narrative, and the Pigford settlement.

In addition the Martin Lee Anderson case followed almost an identical path of narrative construction, public pressure and eventual lawsuit settlement. Indeed, many of the same names and faces are present, including the publicist Ryan Julison.

Early last year we posted a couple of articles describing the narrative Ryan Julison created. Including update #12, and also within a general discussion thread of Unintentional Optical Subliminal Messaging visible on the Julison Communications website.

The primary purpose of the latter post was more of a curiosity about imaging, and specifically what case studies Julison was optically sharing on the site and unintentional visuals surrounding them. Keeping in mind that “media optics” are the Julison professional forté.

We were surprised then, when Ryan Julison responded to the discussion. His comments were as follows:

This is Ryan Julison, the operator of the website whose photos are being analyzed here. Obviously, I never usually comment in situations like these, but felt compelled to respond to provide some background.

I want to compliment the writer of this blog for the passion on display here. While we may disagree, you are to be commended for utilizing your First Amendment rights to the fullest. It is obvious that you have spent an abundance of your time researching and preparing this information.

Without going into too much detail, I wanted to provide some background that may help clear up some misconceptions. I am not an activist. I’m not even political. I’m just a simple PR guy who helps people communicate with the media. i also happen to often volunteer my efforts to help give the ‘little guy’ a voice. I am not making a dime on the Trayvon story.

By way of background, the photos you have referenced here come from my Case Studies section. The reason some of the people don’t look happy is because most of them are going through a traumatic situation. The man in the upper left corner is James Jones. He was arrested for going on his disabled daughter’s school bus and confronting her bullies. I volunteered to help him communicate and it became a pretty big story too. The photo directly below James is of an autistic boy and his stepmom. He was bullied badly and it was put on Facebook. Did that for free as well.

I agreed to help Trayvon’s family because they were simply grieving parents who wanted to do what they could to get justice for their son. I don’t think anybody ever thought this would reach the levels that it did.

It saddens me that this story has been so politicized.

I just wanted to help give a family, one that is certainly not dissimilar from millions of others around the country, a fighting chance when battling government bureaucracy.

Thanks for your time.

Ryan Julison

My response to the dropped comment by Julison was embarrassingly a little snarky; I was angry at how dismissive Mr. Julison seemed at the consequences to his actions:

….I’m just a simple PR guy who helps people communicate with the media. i also happen to often volunteer my efforts to help give the ‘little guy’ a voice…..

I said: Ryan, when you take a break from sewing sweaters for homeless kittens from the hairs on your hairbrush, you might want to update your website with this altruistic voluntary “simple PR guy” stuff. Because in your own words:

Even though we’re not in New York or LA, we know how to get your story in the hands of top-tier media, immediately. Over the past two decades, we have worked on countless national stories that have generated literally billions of global media impressions.

We have developed media relations strategies for a wide-range of complex issues involving including the very public default of a $675 million credit facility, the bankruptcy of two prominent luxury real estate communities, the unfortunate death of a high-profile celebrity’s child, multiple class-action lawsuits that affected thousands of homeowners and club members and many other instances where communicating was beyond challenging.

Defining a person supported and funded by, the NAACP, the CBC, by Jesse Jackson, Rev. Al Sharpton, Ben Jealous, Spike Lee, President Barack Obama (need I go on), as the “little guy” is laughable. Sorry, the readers of this site are NOT Today Show News consumers. It ain’t the “little guys” flying to LA for Rally’s, it ain’t the little guys quitting their jobs to become full-time leaches upon the image you created. It’s called opportunism and you are not going to be afforded detachment or plausible deniability. You are embedded in this one.

Nice spin selling though, but then again, that’s what you do. Professional obfuscation.

But when the truth comes out about how all parties, created and supported specifically BY YOU I might add, are shown to be manipulative liars and sellers of a false reality, the ridicule you will sense will turn your name into a verb.

“Don’t Julison Me bro”…. will be the equivalent of Joe Rice’s famous SOU faux-pas.

You have attached yourself to the image of your creation. Natalie Jackson and Benjamin Crump did not initiate a legal strategy for justice, they initiated a media strategy. You created it. Justice defined as civil lawsuits. “Show me the money”. :(

You, Ryan Julison, purposefully and with specific intent, sold to ABC and NBC a storyline of racism. Racism where no racism exists because it was part of your sales strategy. Do you know how many victims of physical violence YOU have created.

We are working your trail backwards to specifically identify your contacts, how you messaged, what was your pitch, and to what end was the storyline maliciously false, or intentionally uncorrected. You have a lot of blood on your hands for a “simple PR guy”, and there are multiple authors chomping at the storyline involving the media manipulation, you call PR.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/04/21/update-10-part-2-the-trayvon-martin-shooting-deedee-reveals-the-false-truths/

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/04/26/trayvon-martin-shooting-you-will-never-meet-deedee-but-you-can-confront-the-media/

Out of curiosity, while you might not be paid now, are you saying you will never financially benefit from this optic you created?

Several other readers took the opportunity to share their sentiments too. Eventually this led to another response from Ryan Julison:

I came on your site because I was amused that the haphazard website I had thrown together was getting such a thorough deconstruction (why are the white people smiling but none of the black people).

I do have paying clients, which is why I set up the website in the first place, but I volunteered for the family and will not make a penny off this case, regardless of what happens.

I am happy to share the initial media pitch and subsequent pitches with you, there is no reference made to race in them.

I came to your site in a respectful manner thinking it would perhaps be an opportunity to have a thoughtful dialogue. I was being too optimistic, it appears, because I was met with personal attacks and profanity.

For the record, I’m the only person on this site who has revealed their identity.

“Sundancecracker,” you have my email address, feel free to follow-up if you’d like more information.

I have nothing to hide.

After a few hours with no further comments by Mr. Julison we decided to take up his offer and contact him via e-mail. In short we offered him the opportunity to frame his position and outline his involvement directly in his own words. The response to our inquiry was a return e-mail from Mr. Julison with a request for us to call him directly on his cell phone.

We declined the offer for telephonic contact because in essence we perceived he was requesting a filter between him and the answers being sought by readers and those who had significant and specific questions.

In our followup response (via email) we outlined the difference between the “new media” and the “institutional media” as one of filtering. Why would it be better for people to read an interpretation, or our opinion, of his position, as opposed to his direct response in the format he already engaged upon? It just did not make sense.

Nor were we willing to become a part of the Ryan Julison story line. He could, as he can now, simply respond to the questions presented, in his own words and not worry about the words of a person interpreting his position. Alas, while he did confirm his continued readership of the questions and comments, he did not respond to the last email outlining our reason for declining to call him.

Why?   Why was Ryan Julison so darned adamant about getting this one seemingly insignificant self-defense shooting into the NATIONAL PUBLC PSYCHE.   Why?

Sanford, Fla. City Manager Norton Bonaparte, Jr., left, speaks to Rep. Corrine Brown, D-Fla., and Sanford, Fla. Mayor Jeff Triplett, and Rep. Frederica Wilson, D-Fla., before a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, March 20, 2012, to talk about the shooting of Trayvon Martin. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)

During research we identified Ryan Julison and his firm Julison Communications as being the media communications and Public Relations source for the Pigford Settlement. Some of you might be familiar with the Pigford V. Glickman lawsuit against the United States Department of Agriculture commonly referred to as Pigford, or Pigford II.

Essentially the Pigford Settlement was a determination by the Dept. Of Agriculture to settle discrimination lawsuits brought about by black farmers. However, as Lee Strantham has meticulously outlined the original lawsuit, while potentially justified at the time of filing, eventually evolved into a massive fraud by people who never engaged in farming at all.

Breitbart.com has an extensive research library filled with information about the fraud associated with Pigford claims. The entire Pigford story became a political hot potato for anyone who would deny blacks the opportunity for financial gain at the cost of taxpayers.

Indeed the Congressional Black Caucus and civil rights leaders, use the defensive shield of racism against anyone who would question the motivation of tens of thousands of claimants. This, despite the reality of the number of claimants being ridiculously out of touch with the actual number of black farmers who might have been affected.

At last mention there were over 38,000 individual black claimants seeking monetary awards from $50,000 to $250,000. This compares to DOA internal statistics that put the actual number of potentially affected farmers around 5,000.

But what is the DOA going to do? Deny a large contingent of dependent class Democrat supporting, and race sensitive voters, their place at the trough?

A massive class action lawsuit fraught with intentional fraud costing taxpayers over $2.2 BILLION to date from both Pigford and Pigford II settlements.

It appears this is where Mr. Julison gained association with a variety of institutional race based, and race baiting, black leaders. Indeed Mr. Julison appears quite proud of his association with such fraudulent endeavors as described in highly visible links proudly displayed upon his Facebook page:

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On the same date (March 5th) that Ryan Julison was contacted to participate in the Trayvon Martin narrative he released the following press release on behalf of the settlement (pdf file)

In the interests of time, and sheer exhaustive text bordering on unreadable, we are going to have to summarize the tangled network of players upon this story line, and request your research upon your own. If we attempted to outline the entire construct of how each trail leads from one person to the next we would have a considerable volume on just these interconnected associations alone.

Al Sharpton, Martin Lee Anderson’s Mother – Gina Jones, and Jesse Jackson march 2006

However, suffice to say that from central Florida in addition to the prior connections between Benjamin Crump and Daryl Parks via the Martin Lee Anderson Case, and Jesse Jackson along with Al Sharpton, the political tentacles are transparently obvious.

From the civil rights leaders Jackson and Sharpton, you draw a straight line to the Congressional Black Caucus and CBC member Corrine Brown from Florida’s 3rd district which includes Seminole and Orange Counties.

Sanford, Fla. City Manager Norton Bonaparte, Jr., left, speaks to Rep. Corrine Brown, D-Fla., and Sanford, Fla. Mayor Jeff Triplett, and Rep. Frederica Wilson, D-Fla., before a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, March 20, 2012, to talk about the shooting of Trayvon Martin. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)

In addition to the Martin Lee Anderson case connecting Parks and Crump to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, you find a deep connection to current U.S Attorney General Eric Holder via his civil rights affiliation spawned by marriage to Dr Sharon Malone. Malone’s sister (Holder’s sister-in-law) was Vivian Malone-Jones from civil rights fame in the Alabama “stand at the schoolhouse door” with Governor George Wallace.

Vivian Malone-Jones worked her entire career inside the Civil Rights division of the Department of Justice that her brother-in-law Eric Holder now heads. So when you hear Eric Holder say “my people” he’s not necessarily referring to blacks in the aggregate; he is specifically referring to “activist African-Americans” like Sharpton, Jackson, Jealous etc.; and as a consequence black civil rights attorney’s like Daryl Parks and Benjamin Crump and Natalie Jackson Esq.

Additionally, DOJ Civil Rights division head, Tom Perez, received letters requesting assistance from Benjamin Crump, Sanford City Manager Norton Bonaparte, and the Congressional Black Caucus.

Eric Holder is obviously the inner cabinet ear of President Barack Obama. Hence, Trayvon Martin famously became Obama Jr, albeit in appearance only, in the Rose Garden.

Subsequently, the Corrine Brown friendly Congressional Black Caucus took up the immediate cause to advance Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, along with Parks and Crump, to Washington DC for politically expedient, and optically helpful, congressional judiciary committee hearings.

Daryl Parks, Benjamin Crump, Sybrina Fulton, Tracy Martin attend Washington DC judiciary Committee hearing March 27th

From this hearing you heard “Trayvon was hunted down, chased, and shot like a dog“.

Ryan Julison was specifically chosen by Natalie Jackson and Benjamin Crump because he was attached to Jackson/Crump via Pigford and Civil Rights/CBC activists.

Ryan Julison Bragging Rights

Next, we look at culpability in selling a racist narrative, and for that we start by looking at how excited Ryan Julison was to sell the Trayvon story to the media.

These are the stories that highlight his sales pitch. These are his own selections to represent his efforts, and framed/highlighted in his own words. Again, from his own Facebook page:

Chicago Tribune Article

CBS News article

Reuters via Yahoo article:

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is “the 600 pound elephant in the room.”

Whoopsie… Eh, ya might not have wanted to be such a big fan of that one (above) Mr. Julison, it kinda crushes that whole “I never sold race” story you’re trying to hide behind. Hmmm ??? Yeah “check out this story” indeed.

ABC News Article

CNN Story / Article

According to CNN affiliate WFTV, Zimmerman, who is white, described Martin to a dispatcher as a suspicious black man.

Whoopsie, busted again. Yep, as you say: “Now working with CNN on the Trayvon Martin story”. Yep, “working” being the operative word hey Ryan?

ABC “Matt Gutman” story

ABC News has uncovered questionable police conduct in the investigation of the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager by a white neighborhood watch captain in Florida, including the alleged “correction” of at least one eyewitness’ account.

[...] Witnesses told ABC News a fist fight broke out and at one point Zimmerman, who outweighed Martin by more than 100 pounds, was on the ground and that Martin was on top.

“That was my baby, my youngest son,” mother Sybrina Fulton told ABC News in an interview in Miami. “He meant a lot to me, I don’t think the police department really understands that…I need justice for my family, I just want justice for my son.”

Ryan, you “worked with Matt Gutman on this story” March 12th? Seriously Mr. Julison? I mean really? You should have scrubbed your tracks a little better. Your “plausible deniability” meter needle is in the red.

You are so far into this racist narrative, the light from outside of racism’s existence could never reach you.

Everyone needs to read the entire article linked above, ALL OF IT, and see exactly what Ryan Julison worked with Matt Gutman to create. It must have been Matt Gutman who was too lazy to actually look beyond the 2005 arrest report for 248 lb weight description.

Wasn’t Matt Gutman from ABC the “exclusive” guest for the mysterious DeeDee phone call conversation with Benjamin Crump? And spends a lot of time in Miami too, where the source of the original “doctored” 911 calls originated. Hmm funny that.

In addition wasn’t ABC and Matt Gutman, through his producer, Candace Smith, the “exclusive recipient” of the manipulated Sanford Police Station booking footage. And then again the “exclusive recipient” of the bloody head shot too. Hmmm.

You must have liked working with Matt huh?

Inside Edition Report

NBC Today Show

Now that you know the reality in perspective, this video from the Today Show is a MUST WATCH. It was filmed on Saturday March 17th. The morning after the Trayvon Family and representatives met in the mayor’s office and listened to the tapes. Crump claims 3 eye witnesses etc. Just watch it.

The next day, late on Sunday the 18th was when Tracy supposedly discovered DeeDee via phone records.

New York Times Article

MIAMI — Nearly three weeks after an unarmed teenager was killed in a small city north of Orlando, stirring an outcry, a few indisputable facts remain: the teenager, who was black, was carrying nothing but a bag of Skittles, some money and a can of iced tea when he was shot. The neighborhood crime watch volunteer who got out of his car and shot him is white and Hispanic. He has not been arrested and is claiming self-defense.

Whoopsie, there you go bragging again, “Worked with the New York Times on this story”… So now we know it was Ryan Julison and New York Times Lizette Alvarez who created the new ethnicity “White and Hispanic“.

Are you sure you want to stick to your story about not creating the racist narrative Mr. Julison? Really? This is kind of embarrassing to be so easy to point out. Moving on…..

NBC Nightly News With Brian Williams

Wow, another must watch video. This from Sunday night, the night Tracy Martin discovered DeeDee. And once again the specific ethnicity “White Hispanic” is used.

New York Times Editorial

Wow, Mr. Julison you sound pretty proud of this one. …”Doesn’t get much bigger than that“.

Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old student, was shot last month as he walked home one night with a snack in hand. His killing has stirred national outrageand protests because there is evidence he called out in alarm over his cellphone as the armed stranger closely pursued him. At the same time, George Zimmerman, the shooter, was on the phone with a police dispatcher, who told him, “We don’t need you to do that.”

This follows the March 20th 11:30am Major Press conference Benjamin Crump held where he announced DeeDee, and a whole bunch of other now dismissed, and deconstructed, nonsense. It seems odd to see Mr. Julison sharing on his Facebook page how proud he is of the false narrative being on display in the New York Times.

CNN Link

The family of Zimmerman, a white Hispanic, said he has been wrongly described as a racist…

FACEBOOK for Ryan Julison at Julison Communication

So after President Obama spoke, and Ryan Julison finished bragging about the thousands of calls to elevate a prideful self image, he stopped linking the famous outcomes to his Facebook page.

Must be ‘mission accomplished’, huh?

I was going to introduce even more substantive information and link connections between Ryan Julison, Matt Gutman, ABC, CBS, NBC et al, mostly from the South East offices of institutional media sources to show how specifically intentional the selling of a racist narrative was.

However, …. there really is no point. As you can see from Ryan Julison’s own words, he “worked with” the media, “organized” the plan, and “coordinated” the efforts, of the entire Trayvon Martin VS. George Zimmerman narrative.

Within the articles he specifically cites, values, and considers as best reflective examples of his efforts, his agenda is clear, evident, without doubt and certain.

One only has to look at his own words and his own construction. HIS, no-one else’s interpretation of it, his very own. To look back now and see Mr. Julison’s recent attempt at distancing himself from the consequences of the very narrative he bragged about creating, is, well, you decide….

And while you are deciding let me remind you of the consequences again.

Matthew Owens

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154 Responses to Is This What Ryan Julison Intended All Along? Or Was It Just Acceptable Collateral Damage?

  1. justfactsplz says:

    It is good to revisit Julison’s agenda. He, Crump, and Jackson have the blood of all of the victims who were killed or beaten in the name of Trayvon. This guy is a real peace of art let me tell you. I remember when he visited here and asnwered some of our questions. I came away with one impression of him. He was squirming knowing he had not out smarted us.Between Julison’s PR campaign and Omara not publicly standing up against this narrative, George’s reputation was doomed. Shameful. Julison needs to be held accountable. The list is growing.

    • myopiafree says:

      I believe in “Freedom of the Press” – but this Julison truly “skirts the edge” with his incredible lies and distortions. It now has cost the Florida State $1,000,000 to attempt to lynch and innocent man – based on Crump-Julison’s total lies. How do you stop this calumny? Where are the slander-libel laws? Where do these arrogant (and blind) prosecutors (like NiFong – A. Corey) come from. How do you stop them? When does a new FARCE start again, driven by the NAACP, and BGI. Who must suffer under them – yet again?

      • justfactsplz says:

        Sadly it will not stop and will happen again. That is why the light of the truth is so important.
        The things that Sundance has discovered must somehow get out there to the MSM and to the people. How I don’t know.

        • jmf says:

          I think the way forward must be based upon a community of people who do not get their information from sources other than the mainstream media. Do not develop a strategy that depends on the consent and support of the teeming masses, because: a) you do not need it and b) you are not going to get it. Power is born of confidence and passion.

          • jmf says:

            Careless, sorry — people who do not get their information from sources other than the mainstream media

          • justfactsplz says:

            It is the people who do listen to the MSM that I try to get to. One of my daughter’s neighbors right atter the George Zimmerman verdict said to me “Do you mean you think the media would lie to us”? These are the ones I target. I told her they lie every day and proceeded to give her facts that were contrary to what the media was peddaling.

      • inspectorudy says:

        What this monster has done along with the criminals in the Florida Dept of Justice is like the old saying, “You can stand on the rooftop and open up a feather pillow to the wind but you can never put them all back in again”. What this jerk has done is spread false rumors and claims against Zimmerman but they can never be recalled or all refuted by the truth.

    • jmf says:

      Yes, he does need to be held accountable. The same is true for a very long list of people. And if we don’t hold them accountable, we should be held accountable as well.

      I would like to see a movement to act on this. It’s time to stop being amazed by the dishonesty, hypocrisy, or treachery of these people. It’s old news, already been done ad nauseum. Condemnation and assignment of shame are non-events, only talk, which will yield agreement from those who already agree and will have no impact whatsoever on the subjects and supporters.

      What must we do to make these people stop and pay for their crimes?

      • Sharon says:

        What must we do to make these people stop and pay for their crimes?

        Restore our Republic so that we are once again a nation of laws (instead of lawlessness at all levels), where all are equal before the law.

        Lawlessness has been winked at for decades. The chickens are coming home to roost.Lawlessness is now in the place of authority – at all levels.

        The Attorney General of the United States is ok with the current state of affairs, as is the Congress. So this it not about Ryan Julison. He’s a symptom. We are way past the time where it makes sense to be trying to managing symptoms.

        Sometimes symptom management makes sense, as it helps a person endure the unexpected difficulty, but symptom management never stop the disease.

        • jmf says:

          “Restore our Republic…” With all due respect for your sentiments, I don’t think so. Restore a sense of honor and courage to the hearts of the people, perhaps. But America is already gone and it’s not coming back. Trying to go back to the good old days is not going to work. Who we were is a big part of how we got to where we are now.

          A nation of laws is a good place for a swarm of lawyers. The sons of Obama we are discussing are bugs that crawled out of the cracks in the structure of the legal system, where they found refuge and nurture until they matured into the vermin that they now are. They owe their survival to the deference to the law that most people still have. The law is the theater where the Pigford story has unfolded, and the law is that big voice telling you there ain’t nothing you’re going to do about it.

          Justice is one of those equivocal words that means radically different things according to who is using it. According to the law, it means the game gets played and the lawyers always win. Justice of the yearning heart is a far different thing. The Zimmerman verdict was not Justice; that was already done on the night when George met Trayvon.

          We are still a nation of laws. That is the problem. Respect for the law may still generally be a wise strategy for practical reasons, but it has absolutely nothing to do with virtue. Not anymore.

          • Sharon says:

            Are we still “a nation of laws” when lawlessness is the norm for the day, and those who are responsible for enforcing those laws don’t, and those who violate those laws face no ineffectual consequences?

            I agree that America is gone.

            I was simply answering the question raised.

            I wasn’t talking about “respect for the law” but enforcement of the laws.

            Sorry I wasn’t more clear. I’ve never lived in a failed nation state before and have trouble expressing myself accurately.

            • Sonny says:

              I totally agree

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            • jmf says:

              And I don’t want to trample on your message. Yes, a functional society will need laws, and the laws must be enforced. But we need to rethink the role and status of the law. There needs to be a way to override the law in order to enforce Justice.

              • Sharon says:

                Hey, trample away!! ;) I doubt I have “a message.”

                I’m just trying to participate honestly in a conversation and learn how to say what I think and get better at “defending it” if I screw up in how I say it or if someone genuinely disagrees with what I said…and discover if I’m wrong so I can figure out where I’m wrong.

                That, in a nutshell, is the only reason I am here.

                If I don’t reply further, not because of any offense – family responsibilities. Thanks. :)

              • Sonny says:

                Yea I have my own clear view of what’s going on? Hmm, the people getting into Gov and lawyers are just causing this problem for profit and racism, we use to do it in other country’s, now were doing it in our own back yard! These are just opinions? Hmm a Vietnam Vet

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              • Sonny says:

                Ur thoughts are clear and dead on, were in trouble if we don’t get serious soon about RACISM

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  2. PeruvianMom says:

    How does Ryan Julison sleep at night with so much blood on his hands? Julison seems to be the grand wizard of this month’s bloody racial tornado. Julison should go down in history as the neo-racist who created the term “white-Hispanic” for the specific purpose of inciting racial hatred, to gin up sympathy and money in memory of a thug, Trayvon Martin; and notoriety for George Zimmerman, an innocent man looking out for his neighbors and defending his life.
    The Ryan Julison legacy is a trail of dead innocent white people preyed upon by the zombie minions of the Black Grievance Industry. Ryan Julison blew the neo-racist zombie whistle “white-HIspanic.” Shame on you Ryan Julison.

    • Sharon says:

      “How does Ryan Julison sleep at night with so much blood on his hands?” Do you really think he has ever had any trouble sleeping at night? Those who deliberately plan and implement things that endlessly destructive to other people are long past any sleep issues. :( This was not a mistake in Ryan Julison’s world or a miscalculation. It has perhaps been an unintended consequence of choices made.

  3. Vivid Blue says:

    Julison and his ilk are like illegal arms dealers, they don’t care about fallout or causalities of their actions. Money is money- even if it is blood money. He sleeps soundly at night because he fights for the ‘little guy’, even if that person is a thug pounding someone’s head into concrete. Same as the arms dealers, they sell to the ‘little guy’ too. They also sleep well at night in their nice houses from the money made.

    • Sam says:

      A comparison I would not have thought of but apt. Like giving Stinger missiles to jihadis and expecting them to be used only on Qaddafy’s Libyan Army aircraft. It’s all of a piece and the same progressive mindset.

  4. sangell says:

    Great article!

    Of course if there was ever a ‘little guy’ in this story it was George Zimmerman. A man who could not afford to lawyer up, utterly dependent on his own resources to the point he declined a trip to the emergency room despite his head wounds because he was well aware his inadequate medical insurance would leave him exposed to thousands of dollars in medical expenses. For a guy who likes to fight for the ‘little guy’ Julison seems strangely unconcerned with how his PR campaign would affect George Zimmerman.

    I’ve often said there are two ‘sources’ that are completely worthless in news stories about criminal proceedings yet they are invariably included by reporters. The first is the mother of either the defendant or victim. The second is their attorney. A mother or an attorney is going to try and present their child/client in as favorable light as they can and the public understands that because these people are identified as the source of the comments. Where it gets a lot murkier and where a guy like Julison needs to exam his own ethics is where he provides information to news reporters based entirely on what he has learned from the family and their attorney.

    • Big Jim says:

      “Of course if there was ever a ‘little guy’ in this story it was George Zimmerman.”

      Absolutely! And if Julison helps to destroy the little guy’s life even though the little guy committed no crime, well, that’s just all in the game.

    • michellc says:

      I really think Mr. Johnson needs to look at his own son’s FB. I know Mr. Johnson has a FB account that he’s active on. Since the shooting and as of yesterday his son still had photos of him and other boys flashing gang signs.

  5. Troy says:

    For the simple reason that the feral thugs don’t look any farther than the color of skin in their rush for racist revenge, my only hope is that the lies come home to roost very closely to Mr. Julison.

    I know I am carrying much more often now than I used to.

  6. scaretactics says:

    Absolutely horrid. Julison fabricated a story and the MSM, BGI, Trayparents, Nobama….just blindly ran with it! No questioning or thinking involved.

    Contrast their way to the treepers…always lively discussions, respectful disagreements, etc. What a difference.

    The NBC video was vile. And those sweet photos of “my baby” NEVER revealed how he looked as a grown teenager on the night of the shooting. Hmmmmmm…….

    Your response to Julison was spot -on….not snarky at all. Just accurate. How refreshing!

    Yes, Julison is just as culpable for these retaliation attacks and I will respectfully let him know.

    • Sharon says:

      Julison fabricated a story and the MSM, BGI, Trayparents, Nobama….just blindly ran with it!

      Or he was the secretary for the story fabricated by someone else. No less culpable…but his prior connections to the BGI suggest that he didn’t have to “come up with” any story at all – just a new iteration.

    • sangell says:

      Well you can’t blame Julison for the Trayparents. They were the ‘source’ of his good vs. evil media storyline. The only reason Crump, $ybrina and Fruit needed Julison was to feed the story to the media in a digestible form with the Trayparent’s agreeing to pose as Julison knew they must to be media ‘edible’. Fruit would have to appear as $ybrina’s ‘husband’, wear suits instead of lout clothing, stay sober and keep his other women out of sight. $ybrina would transform herself into “Coretta Scott” Fulton with her face frozen in a permagrief with a clean cut Jahvarmint making the occasional appearance as this ‘family’s’ remaining son but with no speaking role allowed since he didn’t appear to know Trayvon very well.

      What this really shows is the media is desperate for news stories, even if contrived, that can be used to portray blacks as conventional people especially if they are simultaneously the victims of ‘injustice’ and not the perpetrators of it. This is increasingly hard to do in modern America as the depravities and pathologies of the underclass spread ever deeper into black America. When Jesse Jackson’s son is sent to prison, when President Bush’s highest ranking black White House advisor is arrested for shoplifting ( and his son for murder), when even the first black presidents personal history is more a mystery than a inspiring story the need to atone for all the bad news the media is forced to present on American blacks the longing for the good ole days when blacks were the put upon victims is somewhat understandable.

  7. czarowniczy says:

    This ‘kill whitey’ ethic is a widening manifestation of the ‘dislike’ for other races that many blacks in the US have. We’ve gone a bit overboard in making white on black crime a worse action than any-other-color on white crime is, we’ve gone way out of bounds in trying to make punishment equal, we’ve slipped 180-degrees from where we were some 50 years ago. I can’t imagine the beating death of a 90-year old black WW II vet by two feral white youth would get less air time than Ben Affleck being chosen as the new Batman – seriously, no exaggeration. Local news here carried the story once and then dropped it while the GZ incident was not only on the air constantly but engendered a rash of gun-culture and white racist and historical/ongoing black oppression issues. The entire flap here over the OK shooting was that bored teens did it – story played just before a piece on how the city has plans to entertain our local little Visigoths to keep as many as possible from pillaging the population. This is starting to smell like a Holder ‘frank discussion on race’, we’ll all discuss how you white folks can become more compliant.

    • sangell says:

      True, blacks do not discriminate in their racial animus. Need I remind everyone of former DC mayor and current councilman Marion Berry’s remark about ‘dirty Asian businesses’ or Jesse Jackson’s contemptuous description of New York as Hymietown? I once went into one of the little corner stores that are ubiquitous in San Francisco and came upon a 14 or 15 year old boy helping his Palestinian mother to her feet with her head bleeding profusely. She had just been robbed and in a totally unnecessary act of gratuitous violence the black thugs who robbed her had beat her over the head with a wine bottle. The head of the Richmond, Virginia police gang unit responded to my question as to what he saw as the biggest problem facing that city and he said the day the Mexicans and Central Americans have the numbers to start retaliating against the black thugs who have been preying on them!

      • czarowniczy says:

        And New Orleans’ ex-mayor Nagin (presently under Federal indictment and facing trial in October) and his ‘chocolate city’ remarks and statements about not wanting his city overrun with Mexicans post-Katrina. We had a lot of heated dislike by the black community directed against the Vietnamese and their achievements during the 80s and 90s which is being redirected towards the Mexican and Mideast achievers who’ve come to the city in the last twenty years.

      • annieoakley says:

        Boy that is the truth! It is why they are pushing this immigration bill! In LA and parts of CA it will be apparent soon and letting thousands of prison hardened criminals with just help this new race war along.

    • michellc says:

      Yes, whites are not invited to this discussion party.

  8. valinva says:

    Joseph Goebbels and Leni Riefenstahl wold be so proud of you Ryan. you have truly mastered the art of propaganda.

  9. Moishe Pipik says:

    Thank you for calling Mr. Julison the murderer that he is, and giving him the “Spike Lee” treatment at the end.

    My guess is he contacted you because somewhere, deep inside him, he knows he has blood on his hands.

    • Sharon says:

      I think he contacted us because sunshine was unexpectedly falling on his clients, and the pattern of the interests of those he served, and wasn’t particularly good for business to let it continue.

      He thought that if he made some placating and patronizing gestures toward Sundance that Sundance would be so pleased at being recognized by a person who serves important/MSM personalities that he would drop his research.

      • Sonny says:

        My personal opinion is he felt power and ran with it and the attention! And like our athletes Carrys on until caught and now willing to see what he’s done! Ur job thank God has exposes the gutless racist for what he is, RACIST, he new what he was doing with out a doubt! GUILTY OF RACISM

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  10. auscitizenmom says:

    Well, I guess the good Mr. Julison has his carry permit, or should, because one of those black, feral, “little guys” may turn around and see his “white” skin one of these days and decide to play the knockout game with him head.

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  12. judylwhelan says:

    Good American Thinker articles make the general surface connection …would be nice to see the depth of information in this post spread far and wide. Such a “well” of Sundance dots again connected for all to see.
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/08/the_hood_comes_to_duncan_oklahoma.html
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/08/how_responsible_is_obama_for_the_oklahoma_killing.html

  13. Warren Bonesteel says:

    They’re fomenting a race war. imo, they’d best be careful. They just might get one. The problem is, they are outnumbered and outgunned by at least three or four to one, just by white conservative gun owners, alone.

    The resulting race war could devolve in a more general civil war. Again, the numbers are against them. The government, our military, and advocates for race wars simply cannot overcome the numbers involved. America would be a bleeding, ruined wreck, but the left and the black racists will inevitably lose such a war.

    All of the resulting death and destruction and dead innocents on both sides…for what?

    Don’t ever give up your guns, kids. Not for any reason. Not to anyone.

    If they continue down this road, prepares to endure and survive a very dark ride.

  14. Shannon says:

    To Ryan Julison: Why didn’t you “volunteer your efforts” to give “the little guy” George Zimmerman “a voice”? After all, you say that’s what you do so why didn’t you do it in this case? Knowing the facts of the case, did you really consider Sabrina Fulton et al more of a little guy?
    Dude, we all have the same facts/data so how do you explain this? Just curious.

  15. I don’t understand how Julison can say “I’m just a simple PR guy who helps people communicate with the media. i also happen to often volunteer my efforts to help give the ‘little guy’ a voice. I am not making a dime on the Trayvon story.”
    WRONG:
    He may have done all the PR for the Trayvon Martin case for “free” but the publicity, connections, bragging rights, etc. it afforded him will MORE than make up for the value of his “time and expertise” and customary charges/fees. It is invaluable to him. Much the way fledgling criminal defense attorneys, trying to make a name and become THE go-to defense attorney, will take on large, complex cases Pro Bono. It’s a marketing ploy and an investment – nothing more.
    Secondly, while the obvious victims in the construct are the Zimmermans and particularly George Zimmerman, they also are guilty of exploiting and using the Martin family for their own purposes. I know that they agreed, trade-marked, etc. the entire “our son, the angel, Trayvon” construct and, as expected, are now living off the largess of the dupes who bought into all of this – but they have been used.
    Whether they were good, bad or horrible parents, they did lose a child in a horrible way (even if he WAS at fault – and he was) and they were/are in the grieving process. They were “boosted” in their misguided “wishful thinking” about their son’s possible culpability, directed in the dialogue and how to present it, encouraged to believe the “lies” created. The “Scheme Team” HAD to had them under their control of there was nothing. So, they were able, with the backing of, to them, powerful people and celebrities, to justify their assertions. Not only that, psychologically, they believe the lies. The parents actually BELIEVE that was Trayvon calling for help. They actually BELIEVE GZ was told by LE not to get out of his vehicle. They BELIEVE he chased down, attacked and then shot their son when he tried to defend himself. Because they have been told this over and over and over – and let’s face it, they’re not the brightest bulbs on the tree. So, they have been taken advantage of, used, exploited and, eventually, will be case aside when the next big BGI/civil rights/money making opportunity comes along. The “Justice for Trayvon” fund will be depleted – their supporters are NOT going to continue funding it month after month – they’ll move on to something else. In the meantime, they have quit their jobs, become jet-setters, celebrity hob-nobbers, etc.
    Once the DOJ, Holder, Scheme Team et al. accept the inevitable conclusion that there was NO civil rights violation, there will be no suit filed (or won) by the DOJ, they will quietly move on. At this point Tracy “Fruit” Martin and MOTY Sybrina Fulton will be cast aside and eventually their calls will go unanswered. THEN, when the dust settles, and the daylight of reality shines through, will they maybe take the time to contemplate that perhaps, just perhaps, that wasn’t Trayvon screaming for help. They won’t want to accept that and they’ll deny it a million times – but the question has to be there – it’s human nature. And once they come to the only REAL conclusion, based on the evidence and facts, they will begin to grieve in earnest and perhaps, once they work their way through THAT grieving process – the death of their son, the death of their son through his own fault, the reality that their son was a thug – maybe they can begin to pick up the pieces and learn to live what, for them, was a “normal” life.
    Many victims of Julison, Scheme Team and friends – including the parents.

    • yankeeintx says:

      It is my belief that Tracy didn’t contact a lawyer to say “my son was killed an his killer hasn’t been arrested”. I think he said “I left my feral, suspended, and violence-prone son unattended in an unsuspecting neighborhood. He beat someone severely and was shot. Can I be held liable, can I be sued?”.
      Based on all the research, the Martin/Fulton gang were not used or exploited in any way. Sybrina let Alicia raise Tracy’s son, she didn’t. Once Tracy’s and Alicia’s marriage was on the rocks, Trayvon was sent back to Sybrina. Sybrina kicked him out of the house on multiple occasions, even calling the police when he threatened to kill her (maybe he learned that from his friend Kit Durrant). Somebody here used the term “emotionally homeless”, and that is what they did to Trayvon. He was an inconvenience to them. They knew what he was, what he had become. They knew what they were doing, and that is evidenced by sealing his records, trademarking his name, and choosing just the right funeral director to follow the their narritive. He was worthless to them in life, but became a valuable commodity in death. What do you think they meant by “Job well done” on his headstone?

      • Yes, I know all about the history of the horrible parenting by Tracy and Sybrina and the history of shipping TM off to relatives, etc. I’m not disagreeing in their complicity or excusing their utter lack of parenting – I’m just saying, neither of them – alone or together – have enough snap to have orchestrated this without their strings being pulled. I don’t doubt that – and have even questioned (as bad as it sounds and as unimaginable as it is) -given an opportunity to have things as they stand *now* (today) or have TM back, they would choose to have him dead and live the lifestyle they’re living. I guess the point I was making was, at some point all their new “fair weather” friends are going to be moving on to brighter pastures and someone else’s life or loss or tragedy to exploit. In that sense, they are being used and are too stupid to even realize it. AND, when that happens, they may realize – because I know that people can convince themselves 100% that a lie is the truth – what Trayvon really was.

      • fedfef1 says:

        “Sybrina kicked him out of the house on multiple occasions, even calling the police when he threatened to kill her (maybe he learned that from his friend Kit Durrant).”

        Do you have any evidence of this?

        • yankeeintx says:

          Read all of the discovery, page by page. Pay special attention to the texts, and check the dates. Keep in mind, the texts in the discovery are from a limited time frame. We have no idea what was going on prior to that time frame. You may also want to try the search feature for more information.

  16. FoxyGranny says:

    The problem, that I see is Mr Julison was not participating in a random act of kindness for grieving Martin family. The ability to anticipate the consequences for our actions is a simple rule taught by parents.
    At dinner just last night, I heard the same tirade…..”he ( referring to GZ) was told not to follow”. “He should have stayed in the truck”. People still believe the media. If I have learned just one thing from this case, it is review the facts before you form opinions.
    The travesty of senseless killing is beyond comprehension.
    Switching gears, as a longtime resident od Florida I had the opportunity to view the limited release of the film Blackfish. To bring readers up to speed it was a documentary about the whale at Orlando Seaworld that killed the trainer. I watched in disbelief, however I came home and researched documents, autopsy reports, witness statements and was staggered to learn of the true facts.
    So bottom line, each of us are entitled to our opinions . Absolutely. However prudence would dictate that statements should be based on fact not conjecture.
    Our youth do not have the foundation of family values. One of my close friends is a first grade teacher of 40 years. She has witnessed the decline in family value, involvement etc for some time. Her recent open house for prospective parents yielded FOUR attendees.
    Our futur leaders….????

    • peachteachr says:

      As an elementary teacher, I begged parents to come to school and meet me. I would send them the requirements for promotion and how far below their child was. In most cases, I did not meet the parents until the end of school party day. Two things were true: they would be dressed in new clothes and they would assure me that their child was able to do these things as home so what was my problem. I’ve been retired 8 years now. I am certain that the problem is worse than when I left. If you are a concerned parent, you need to be sure you are teaching your child in addition to what they are learning at school. Common Core will make us all equally stupid.

      • myopiafree says:

        Hi Peach –
        Some more Tray-Dad and Tray-Mom LIES. Early on I “wondered” what happened to the parents in the FIRST suspension of Mr. Martin. It is rather clear that neither parent “showed up”. I am certain that SOME parent was notified about Mr. Martin’s skipping 53 days of school. Again, the notification, and no response. Trayvon parents had indeed “cut Trayvon loose – on the streets – to become a “Crip” or Gansta wanna be.” After Trayvon attaked George, and killed – they knew they could make MONEY.

      • FoxyGranny says:

        My friend is above all a dedicated and caring teacher. Many times she has funded supplies on the qt for indigent students so they would not suffer the humiliation of being singled out. You have my utmost respect. The responsibility does not equal the monetary compensation for our dedicated educators.

  17. dizzymissl says:

    Comments from one of the thugs FB pages. This is what we are dealing with folks:

    Shanelle Donier B Omg a veteran died boooo whoooo soo if he wasent a vet this would be a lowkey sitsuation! Haha he was wrong he knows that, but leave his page alone! You guys are pathatic talking to a 16 year old like that, you all say hes so dangerous but no, kenan is not like that! He is a good kid, smart boy, that just made a mistake okay he will get time that he deserves but all these threats that he is reciveing is outragous!!

    Jasmyne Bivens So wait, Kenan purposely killed that man? He WANTED to be called a murderer and go to prison? Ohhhh my gosh you guys, I have it all figured out. Thanks to Ms. Hills! NOT. I highly doubt that he wanted to “murder a man in cold blood.” I’m thinking that he just wanted to rob the man and maybe get a few punches in, which isn’t right by any means. But I doubt that he was like “aw, I wanna kill this dude and bring light to a bunch of racist baby adults who don’t know how to keep their useless comments to themselves.” No one wants to go to prison for murder. And unless they’re a sociopathic serial killer, no one wants to kill somebody. That’s just ridiculous. You’re all ridiculous. There’s really no need for this.
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    • lovemygirl says:

      It is frightening to read comments like that. Sociopath is the word that comes to my mind.

    • dizzymissl says:

      There is no way to do that for FB, sorry. And you are wrong, because, since I said, “Comments from one of the thugs FB pages”, they cannot legitimately say this is what we think.
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    • auscitizenmom says:

      May God help us.

  18. FoxyGranny says:

    Sundance
    I also want to thank you and fellow Treepers for extraordinary research. May Sunlight shine on the truth. 🌝

  19. peachteachr says:

    I live just a few miles from Shirley Sherrod and the Pigsford debacle. Every person who had ever planted a tomato plant, and we all do, got a settlement. She is from Albany, Ga. and that is the media for our area. I didn’t really understand until today that Juilson was involved with both cases. As my mama use to say, “Birds of a feather flock together”.

  20. Dan says:

    As part of my college education I took a couple classes that delved into PR and communications.

    His statement of ‘haphazard & thrown together’ is pure bullshit. Everything in that business is done for a reason. Everything… no matter how small the detail. From choice of fonts and the arrangement of pictures to little details of personal dress. All done for a reason, to sell a story.

  21. triage says:

    I am a logical clear thinking man (if i do say so myself) but I cannot see how we can ever live together in this country. We need a split and see which sides life style is effective and survives. We conservatives are being held hostage because we are force to pay taxes to take care of these people and support programs we oppose. We are not given a choice.

    The problem is that the progressive need us but we don’t need them. They hate us but know their system and way of governing would collapse without us. They need a host to feed off and so far have always stopped just short of killing us with taxes and regulations.

    We need to brain storm and find a way to not support them. Homeschool, don’t sent your kids to liberal colleges, and lastly maybe an “Atlas shrugged” type of approach where all the productive people just stay home and bring the revenue flow to government to a halt.

    We conservative need to have nation wide think tank to find a way to not support this government but also not go to jail. They can’t make us work.

    • Sharon says:

      I think they already have a plan for dividing the country (Russia does if they don’t) – the maps have been around for a few years. Don’t worry. Somebodies working on it. It would suit their purposes nicely to shut down inter state commerce, and the NSA and the TSA stand reading to implement the funeral services for the USA.It would take twenty years to bring the cash flow reduction to the level where it would impact them.

      If we do intend to chase this mess down the civil war continuum we need more reality-based reasoning that we are yet willing to bring to the table: using our work ethic/law and order mentality allows for some assumptions that may not bear out.

    • jmf says:

      Build a community, a cohesive network based on real personal relationships and a commitment to shared values. Make it a face-to-face part of your daily lifestyle (posting comments on a website is nice but not nearly enough) and make it grow. Let the politics follow from that; do not create another political party.

      What’s wrong with the Tea Party: a core group sets the agenda and invites you to come jump on their bandwagon, give money, now and then come to some roadside with a poster and holler. But they don’t have regular meetings, don’t have social events, don’t care what you think.

      Assemble a tribe and build power. Secede from the system in every way possible, especially in your own heart and mind, without provoking battles you cannot win. Stay under the radar. In your local area, dispose of the vermin and drive the retards off.

      But don’t revert to “traditional values”, “good old religion”, or “red blooded patriotism”. Although those ideas may have some salvageable features, they have all failed, which is how we got here. Think for yourself, but have an open mind, evolve, and learn from the mistakes of the past.

  22. Postman says:

    Excellent work.

    I think it might have been wise to take up offer of a private phone call.
    We can observe the outlines of what people do, but we hY usually can’t know how they think. Mr. Julison probably believes he’s doing the right thing and may well have been wailing to explain things we can never know from the outside. He did not get results by standing outside the gate yelling; he did it by personal connections combined with targeted media campaigns , seeded, initially staged protests

  23. http://www.examiner.com/article/police-chief-says-fatal-beating-of-delbert-belton-not-racially-motivated

    Police Chief says fatal beating of Delbert Belton ‘not racially motivated’

    My comment:

    What rubbish! So when a good man like George Zimmerman, liked by neighbors of all races, beaten up within an inch of his death, finally defends himself, it’s all about race. On the other hand, when two feral black thugs beat up to death a defenseless old veteran, somehow an idiotic, presumptuous police chief decides on the motivation not being racial.

    How did he divine that? Is he a mind-reader?

    FRANK STRAUB FIRED – IMMEDIATELY!

  24. StormyeyesC says:

    The murders perpetrated by members of Charles Manson’s “Family” were inspired in part by Manson’s prediction of Helter Skelter, an apocalyptic war he believed would arise from tension over racial relations between blacks and whites.
    It looks like Obama is doing what Charles Manson predicted. SMH

  25. Josh says:

    BC tells it like it is. G-d help him – literally. Mr. Cosby really seems to care about “his” people.

    “Bill Cosby speaks about the need for blacks to realize that it is high time to get themselves together and stop perpetuating the stereotype. The title of the video is to point the fact that BET, through its videos, is also perpetuating the erroneous image of blacks as people who just want to party, wear shiny clothes an[d] jewelry, drive cars they can’t afford, and who are promiscuous. ‘All they think about is ass and fun’”

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  27. kathyca says:

    Had to share something I came across while googling the Sanford hammer assualt from 2012 that someone just bumped (wanted to see what happened to them, if anything).

    In this case, the shooter was 13 years old and shot another kid. The little cherub’s name is…wait for it…Le’Genius Wisdom Williams. LMAO

    http://fumaga.com/14404

  28. StormyeyesC says:

    When Robert Zimmerman, George’s brother, was asked if these groups (leftist social action groups), responded to the Martin shooting in a very strong fashion due to fact or personal biases, his answer was clear.

    “Absolutely 100% bias,” he said. “The polite word for ‘agenda” is ‘bias.’ In the midst of an investigation, it is normal for few facts to be known because it is essential that the integrity of the investigation is maintained. There are many who profit from perpetuating the idea of racism and are clearly willing to sidestep facts and insert racial narratives because it is in their organization’s interest not to become obsolete.”

    Zimmerman also stated that “political correctness combined with deceptive portrayals of Trayvon Martin facilitated sidestepping an uncomfortable question: Could Martin actually be capable of doing what he did to Zimmerman? If one were inclined to believe he was, they would be subjected to accusations of insensitivity or racism. The equation would [later] evolve to suggesting that if one believed George had defended his life, the reason is because the person had no compassion for loss of life.”

  29. StormyeyesC says:

    RJ has a way with words and …….a good knowledge of the facts.

  30. StormyeyesC says:

    I meant Robert Junior …not Ryan Julison…..to be specific.

  31. When the light shines on cockroaches, they crawl for cover and no other site shines it brighter that the TH.

  32. If anybody is interested – an interview with the sister of the WWII hero slayed by varmint.

    Affecting because the sister is sober, not-hysterical (compare, actually better not to compare with the cheap ghetto theater of $ybrina looking for a tear which just ain’t in there), extremely honest… we (hopefully) all had a grandma, an aunt like this:

    http://www.khq.com/story/23225525/suspectarrestedinvetbeating

    P.S. It seems callous to say this, but in a way I am glad that the wife of the victim died before him.

  33. Postman says:

    comment cut due to posting from phone-
    — and a combination of strategy, astroturf, and popular action. Only the seeds needed to be astroturfed; there is a ready base of old hands and young tools to inflate the echo chamber we see as acceptable opinion.

    Let’s not be like phone posts, thowing words to the wind. Let’s shape how people think about events like this, much as a once idealist, then corrupted movement has been doing for fifty years.

  34. ctdar says:

    The above group shot of the grifters portrays that Tracy & Sybrina can’t stand each other, in such a moment they can’t bear to told each others hands?
    Shows in a snapshot that they & their supporters are as phony as their love for their son.

  35. myopiafree says:

    Two Blacks and one Hispanic “Gun Down” an Innocent White boy by shooting him in the back.

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/24/20171374-teammates-family-remember-slain-australian-baseball-player?lite

    But don’t worry – this was neither a “race” or “hate crime.”
    Move along people – nothing of interest to see or learn here.

    • justfactsplz says:

      CNN was tauting them as two blacks and one white. That guy is half black. CNN lightened his picture from the other ones we have seen here.

  36. recoverydotgod says:

    I’ve always wondered about any connection between Trymaine Lee and Ryan Julison. Guess I get to keep wondering.

    Dueling scenarios helped shape Trayvon story in epic media battle
    6:54 p.m. EST, September 29, 2012|
    By Hal Boedeker and Martin E. Comas, Orlando Sentinel

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-09-29/news/os-trayvon-martin-zimmerman-media-20120929_1_george-zimmerman-zimmerman-camp-mark-o-mara/2

    -snip-
    The Martin side relied on publicist Ryan Julison, who volunteered to help the family and who had worked with Natalie Jackson before.

    “I never engaged in any racial conversation,” Julison said. “To me, the story was a Neighborhood Watch vigilante carrying a gun who shot an unarmed teenager and wasn’t arrested.”

    But Crump said the case highlighted a double standard on race and crime. What if Martin were white and Zimmerman black?

    “There is no way he would not have been arrested, and that’s the unfortunate and tragic truth of the matter,” Crump said. “I honestly believe that had police arrested George Zimmerman [on Feb. 26], this story would never have gotten this big.”

    Race became a central component in the coverage by high-profile black journalists such as Trymaine Lee of the Huffington Post’s BlackVoices and Charles Blow of The New York Times.

    “As a journalist there was something fundamental about the story that immediately hit me. The loss of life. Martin’s youth. The seemingly inexplicable nature of his death,” Lee said by email Friday.

    -snip-

    On the road with the Dream Defenders
    Trymaine Lee
    08/24/2013
    http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/08/24/on-the-road-with-the-dream-defenders/

  37. Fantasia says:

    I think Jullison is running a bit scared about now. Not long ago, I was working on a writeup about all of this. His website is completely devoid of anything mentioning the Trayvon afair. I don’t know about Facebook, but I recall seeing comments in the old thread he had scrubbed them from Facebook, along with the offending tweets.

    The screen grabs are almost all that is left of this narrative.

    I even tried following the links to the “worked with ABC, CBS” stuff, and the articles are dead. Perhaps moved from the original links, but by the time I reached that point, I was exhausted, and tired of what felt like chasing ghosts. Perhaps if you googled, the searched for cached pages, but it was more effort than I wanted to put into after already spending several hours on it.

    He is not only scrubbing it, it appears he is perhaps getting a little help. What you have is the priceless remnants of a ghost story. Keep many backups. With what seems to be a lot of effort to remove this history from the internet archives, there must be a reason. We just may not know it yet.

    • justfactsplz says:

      Something is up when you try to hide so much. Saving it as it is seen the first time is crucial. Good to see you post. I hope you are feeling well.

      • Fantasia says:

        Thank you. I am feeling better. I changed my work schedule, so now I am not working all of my 12 hour shifts in a row. It helped immensely! This is my first week on my new schedule, and I am much happier and in a lot less pain for it.

        Thank you for the kind reply, and for the thoughtfulness. Hope you are doing well, also.

        • justfactsplz says:

          Yes, I am dealing with it. I too used to work 12 hour shifts with a one hour drive each way. It can be tough. My pain got so bad I had to quit and a month later suffered sudden cardiac death. So my working days are over but I am almost old enough for them to be anyway. God knows best.

    • sangell says:

      Could we dare to be optimistic and believe that Julison has:
      A. Seen the ‘light’ of Truth or
      B. The ‘darkness’ of the Scheme Team

      Wouldn’t be the first time someone enters into a cause with good faith only to realize they are working with frauds and scoundrels. Might we hope he could be Ben Crump’s “Whittaker Chambers” and if not publicly, at least privately, expose the whole rotten BGI? He would certainly know some of their secrets are buried.

      It certainly would be worthwhile to contact him again and see why he is scrubbing his Trayvon association and if is opinion of the case today has changed from before and if so why?

  38. Jeff B. says:

    I can only hope that Karma returns to Ryan Julison in the form of him being jumped and beaten senseless or death by some young black teens…

    I apologize for not being PC and advocating violence but I will make an exception to Julison and I will laugh and applaud if it happens…
    ——————–
    If you actually mean what you wrote in your last sentence, that reveals something about you – not about Julison. Please don’t express such things in these threads. -Admin

  39. justfactsplz says:

    I think it’s about time for Rumpole to post some more vids of Julison. I love watching him dancing his little legs off. He sure knows how to dance around the truth alright.

  40. dodo says:

    Not all democrats are thugs, but just about all thugs are democrat. It’s time for the party of organized crime to be held accountable for encouraging thuggism

  41. You should be ashamed of yourself for this post, I have put YEARS into Pigford and now you’ve given the left a reason to dismiss it. I was friends with Andrew Breitbart and write for his site about issues like Trayvon Martin and race issues.

    This piece is a bullying smear job. It’s NOT the citizen journalism Andrew Breitbart wanted, at all.

    • sundance says:

      Taking time away from writing the warm and fuzzy opinion bits about the poor misunderstood Dream Defenders?

      • stella says:

        You are being paged!

      • Lou says:

        Breitbart was full of sheet. Sundance hits the nail on the head prety much every time. I think having Breitbart on The Conservative Treehouse homepage is putting Breitbart on a pedestal. the only difference is Breitbart was a lot more famous, but famous for stupid stunts. Sundance attacks the racial components of truth nobody in America wants to address.

        • stella says:

          I totally disagree with you about Breitbart. He was a genius when it came to media, which is sorely missing on the conservative side.

      • jmf says:

        You did not deserve that. I will view every word Stranahan writes with suspicion from this day forward. Stranahan + Julison = red flag, red flag, red flag!

    • stella says:

      Mr. Stranahan, I have a question. Why did you read a commenter’s message on the air, and then not include the Admin comment that appeared in the same comment box? The one that said:

      If you actually mean what you wrote in your last sentence, that reveals something about you – not about Julison. Please don’t express such things in these threads. -Admin

      • stella says:

        P.S.: I listened to you in rerun, or else I would have called and asked you live. Wouldn’t want to be called a ‘coward’, now would I?

        ADD: Actually, I think the name you called Sundance was f***ing coward.

    • Sha says:

      Lee Stranahan : You need to be ashamed of yourself ! :evil: If you can’t handle the heat get out of the kitchen. Pigford turned into nothing more than a scam. Lawyers using uneducated people to gain money for themselves and never giving the money to the rightful people it belonged to. As far as Julison is concerned he deserves for people to know who and what he is !

      • stella says:

        Besides, all of the information printed here is public – copied from his own internet site.

        • Sha says:

          stella : I witnessed people being pulled into the Pigford scam that had never farmed a day in there life. Julison doesn’t have a problem bragging when it benefits him but he doesn’t want to face the facts that the false narrative he created cost people their lives. If Julison really felt bad about the deaths that have occurred because of this case why hasn’t he campaigned against the violence.

          • stella says:

            Sha, Mr. Stranahan has written extensively about Pigford, and is very well aware of all aspects. I don’t know why he’s defending Ryan Julison, except that I heard him mention that Julison arranged a contact for him regarding Pigford. Maybe he considers him a buddy now. He just had Mr. Julison on his internet radio show, in which he completely trashed this site, so I assume he called Ryan Julison to arrange the phone interview. He’s been trashing us all day on Twitter as well.

            • Sha says:

              stella : When people come to this site they will know the truth. Consider it a compliment that the treepers are worth worrying about. We must really be getting under his skin lol ! Sometimes the truth hurts. :) To bad for both of them.

          • WeeWeed says:

            Flak, targets, doth protest too much, etc., etc.,………

    • michellc says:

      Okay Mr. Stranahan I’m 10 minutes into your bs and I’m seeing red. Unlike you and your immature liberal self I won’t resort to profanity.
      If you had been paying attention or was interested in the truth, you’d know the great work Sundance did on the George Zimmerman case, something I didn’t see you or any other conservative blogger doing. About that little truth, how many friends did you make with the Dream Defenders? You certainly didn’t care about telling the truth about them did you?
      As for telling Sundance to go away that he doesn’t get to speak for conservatives, you don’t get to make that call. I realize being a liberal your entire life you don’t understand conservatives, but we don’t follow along like good little sheep, we choose who we listen to. We however don’t think we get to decide who gets to speak.
      You also didn’t get your facts about this blog and the moderation correct either. Not all comments are moderated before they show up. So of course sometimes comments show up that the administrators don’t agree with. When they discover these comments they either remove them, edit them by removing profanity and/or adding their own remark. Which makes you a bald face liar because the comment you read on air had that remark and you conveniently left that out. That’s okay though, because when people come to the site they will read the comment and know you’re a liar.
      You would like to shut Sundance up because obviously he’s revealed more truth than you can stand. Eventually we’ll all discover what your relationship is with Julison and why you don’t want the truth about him brought to light.
      I was a big fan of Andrew Breitbart and frankly believe his only black mark was you. But some of us know he didn’t put a lot of trust in you and from what I know about him he would have been seeing red just like me if he’d heard your little tirade today.

      I won’t tell you to go away, actually I hope you keep talking because the more you talk the more conservatives will figure out who and what you are and will quit calling you a conservative.

    • diwataman says:

      I just listened to your near complete devoid of any substance blogtalkradio regarding this and wow, what a complete ass you are. Yes let’s run interference for Julison of all people, next I suppose you’ll be defending Natalie Jackson, Crump, Corey, Sharpton, etc.

  42. StormyeyesC says:

    I missed all the excitement I see .I am somewhat confused personally. Can someone tell me what exactly upset Stranahan? Was is the comments (which sometimes go a little far perhaps in the heat of discussions, or is he asserting that the facts were misstated or incorrect? And what made him come here? I do know that he has done a great deal of good work, and his apparent attack of the CTH leaves me puzzled. I told another commenter the other day that I look at things like this: An online blog is like a pot luck dinner. If I see a dish I don’t care for, I skip it and move down the line, picking another dish from the same table. If a comment was out of line (and I thank the admins who work hard to try to keep the discussions civil and in decent taste), I would say that I have seen far worse comments on other sites, and the authors of articles should not and cannot be judged by the comments section. Furthermore, if as Stella pointed out, Mr. Stranahan failed to read the admins. comment on air-regardless of his motive-he was untruthful, and especially in the name of Brietbart, he should not have done so. So, I guess I am asking, what got him angry?

    • stella says:

      Apparently, he thinks Sundance is a bully for picking on Julison, and misrepresented Julison’s involvement in both Trayvon Martin and Pigford, but he didn’t say exactly how. Also accused Sundance of doxing – printing Julison’s personal information (which is on Julison’s website). I think he and Julison are at least distant buddies, and maybe Stranahan needed something to rant about today. Who knows? Called Sundance a number of unpleasant names (over and over again). Also said we should be ashamed to have Andrew Breitbart on our masthead. We admins are now referring to him as WWAD – What Would Andrew Do? He won’t let anyone forget that he was a close personal friend of Andrew Breitbart – so he says.

  43. StormyeyesC says:

    Thank you Stella for responding. I have a heavy heart. “Picking on”? If the cited facts are true about Julison,( and though I did not comment on the thread, I have seen many of Julison’s distortions first hand), then so be it. If some facts aren’t true, I would suggest Stranahan could responsibly post the corrections or misrepresentations and set the record straight. I know the research Sundance does always appears very thorough but he is human. I understand the doxing complaint. In hindsight, if anything other than public information, (i.e. on Julison’s site), was posted, it might have been wiser withheld (or possibly protected). Honestly, I think some comments are occasionally extreme and I appreciate that it is difficult to moderate all so some get through. It is entirely possible that Stranahan himself may be unaware of the history of Julison and the back story and it may be beneficial for him to investigate some facts for himself, then have the opportunity to comment or correct. I must say, I am disappointed.
    I have great respect for both Stranahan and Sundance, for the same reason, they are doing the work of the right. I am sure it takes long hours, hard work, and it is a labor of love for both, so they have much in common. I am going to blog radio now to listen to Stranahan’s program. I do hope that the fine work that Sundance, Sharon, yourself and others here do does not become overshadowed by an occasional inappropriate comment in the “comments” section. In any case, it is true that we all should attempt to learn something new every day. This may be a stepping stone for both Stranahan and the CTH. The difference between a stumbling block and a steeping stone is the character of the person walking the path.

    • stella says:

      Let’s face it – there are unfortunate comments on any blog, and you can’t judge a blog by the comments, even though we do weed out some bad ones. Take Breitbart, for example – they don’t moderate their own comments, I don’t believe. I always use Disqus when I comment there.

      • doodahdaze says:

        I think less than 10% of the population even think about any of these things. They have no ability to put it together or interest in it. From what I can tell most of them just worry about the electric bill and the score of the sports teams. Amazing. Look at the numbers of the media consumers. Not so much when compared to the total population. This is from personal observations.

    • stella says:

      Sundance might be an imperfect man – as we all are – but he doesn’t deserve to be called a f***ing coward. Stranahan says he tried to contact him. Well, he sent an email at noon today – a day when Sundance had a day off from the blog, and none of us checked mail until late. Then Stranahan has Julison on the show – obviously set up in advance – so I wonder what his angle is here. By the way, I don’t know that I would call him a conservative. Not sure of that at all.

      • Yea, interesting how WWAD comes out of the blue (heh) with this but SD is the coward and the bully. I’m sure “my friend Andrew” would be soooo proud. And you’re right, Stella, you can’t even really call this a red-on-red hit…I ain’t feeling this guy as a Conservative.

        And on the subject of imperfection…I’m actually right in the middle of Righteous Indignation, and AB writes a lot about the new frontier we are fighting on…it’s a learning curve. But I suppose perfection is demanded of SD, because…Pigford? Something? I dunno, I find this guy’s rant hard to follow.

      • michellc says:

        Knowing his history before Andrew, that is a huge stretch. If you look though there is plenty out there that he wasn’t really trusted by Breitbart either.
        I personally don’t think the man should be trusted as far as I can throw him.
        I didn’t realize he attacked Sundance or the blog today, but it certainly doesn’t surprise me. To be frankly honest I don’t read Breitbart anymore unless someone links to a certain article and he is one among a few contributors to the site as why.
        They’re certainly people I don’t even want in the fox hole next to mine much less in a foxhole with me.

        • orangeradish (formerly whiteradish) says:

          Well put, mich! Let’s not let this mere pebble darken the admin’s day. SD put so much heart and energy into sun light. Be gone, Stranaham, you *dolt*!

  44. StormyeyesC says:

    I agree, no blog should be judged by comments. I would hope that commenters would try to realize exactly what is at stake here when they comment and keep their heads about them. I think just within the last day or two an admin. sternly explained that to someone who was quoting a FB posting without the quotation marks or links.

  45. StormyeyesC says:

    Maybe Stranahan was having a bad day. I listened to his show. He mispronounced both Jul-i-son (Juliason) and Rachel Jean-tel (Rachel Jeanette). He didn’t sound like he had a relationship with or a working knowledge of Julison , and I am sure he knows much more about Pigford than he does about Julison’s involvement in Trayvon . What PR person gives the national media a photo of a 12 year old Trayvon along with a narrative of mistruths except to illicit sympathy? We know Julison fired the first shots in the Trayvon case. Stranahan failed, as you so swiftly and correctly pointed out, to be forthright about a couple major things, (like the admin. comment below Jeff B. and his claim that there were a number of death threats here.) Irresponsible broadcasting. He who throws stones…………

    As far as his vulgar comment about Sundance, well, that was flat out wrong and offensive. No man gets respect by showing disrespect. He may talk to his buddies that way at a bar, but it doesn’t belong in the language of a person of intelligence, especially one whose work depends on their choice of words. I think I just lost respect for Lee.

    • stella says:

      I’m glad you took the time to listen to it yourself. I think he said something about Julison having helped him with a contact regarding Pigford last year, so he had at least minimal contact with him in the past.

      • jmf says:

        “I have put YEARS into Pigford and now you’ve given the left a reason to dismiss it.”

        I’m not following this. Do you have any idea what is thinking here?

        • stella says:

          Seems to me that facts are facts. The left is looking for ways to dismiss any criticism, but I don’t see how that has anything to do with CTH.

  46. StormyeyesC says:

    I am glad I listened too. He just seemed too angry. I do think Stranahan has been the Pigford lightning rod. It was he who got the NY Times to expose it. While I don’t share all of his views, he has done an amazing job with Pigford and I truly believe this is one scandal that most of America won’t stand for. I hope he cools off and learns about the MO of Ryan Julison for himself.

  47. whiteradish says:

    Who the heck is this Lee Stranaham?

    I browsed around and apparently he is called a liberal by some, blogged at HuffPost, writes at Breitbart, is an independent film maker (*snicker* all the funnier never heard of him). Financial woes can in fact make people turn coat. Is he now the weakest link at Breitbart? His comment went something like………I’m so and so (who knows drop name and drop name) and he provides no evidentiary information to support his POV. I’m sorry SD and the Tree House admins have to deal with these rude arrogant dim wits from time to time. Let’s not get apologetic going after the Truth, which is not the Feel Good Story everyone wants.

    • diwataman says:

      I have no idea. I’ve never seen him post here before this. On his blogtalkradio this is listed:

      “Lee Stranahan is a filmmaker, writer and a teacher who’s taught tens of thousands of people how to create and promote their artistic visions.”

      http://www.leestranahan.com
      http://www.twitter.com/Stranahan
      http://www.facebook.com/Stranahan

      He has all of maybe 10 articles under breitbart.com regarding the Zimmerman case and the majority of those were in March and April of 2012.

      This guy who wrote a whole whopping ten articles in a year and a half who never contributed a thing over here actually has the balls to say this:

      “Blog “The Conservative Treehouse” has gone too far, mangling the facts of two stories I’ve covered extensibely — the Pigford Black Farmers settlement and the Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman.”

      He is a moron.

  48. whiteradish says:

    Films cost a lot of moolah, and can sink a ship.

  49. michellc says:

    Okay I found the video. I will let all of you decide just how conservative Lee Stranahan is. Now some may say he’s a changed man, but why would a changed man leave this stuff on his you tube page? Maybe as he’s had some financial troubles in the past and he has no morals he takes money where he can get it?
    Do not trust this man, I wish I could get the permission I need to give more info on him but I can’t. That’s why I warned Sundance awhile back to not trust him. He will try to destroy you Sundance, you’ve gotten under his skin. He has destroyed others in his path.

    Here is a link to his you tube account.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Stranahan?feature=watch

    Here is what Lee Stranahan was doing in 2004.
    http://www.pigsfly.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=717&st=0

    • orangeradish (formerly whiteradish) says:

      I get that vibe about Stranaham too. Prayers for SD. Do not fear.

      • michellc says:

        It’s not his first time attacking conservatives. I don’t even begin to pretend to know all the conservative bloggers. So I can’t vouch for all of them but if you look you can find many blogs, usually they were just small little blogs where he attacked them.
        I started researching him after an interaction between him and someone else. I knew he was a supposedly former liberal and to be honest after I started finding out so much stuff about him, I was scratching my head trying to figure out why Breitbart joined up with him. Although from things I’ve found Breitbart never considered him a friend and never trusted him regardless of what is now said.
        He’s been a con man pretty much his entire life. You can discover that just through an internet search.
        Here’s another conservative blog that faced his attacks.
        http://gregwhoward.com/wordpress/2012/07/what-does-lee-stranahan-really-believe/

    • jmf says:

      Uh, if anybody is still reading this post: Why does Breitbart even have this guy? “30 reasons i’m voting Obama: Republicans ruin the economy” — maybe he’s not really a conservative? Maybe the Trojan Horse wasn’t a Trojan? Yuh, maybe not.

  50. JoNobody says:

    Stranny has had issues before with truthfulness in the past. He used to contribute to patterico but was asked to leave after patterico caught him in a lie during weingergate I. Patterico has a rule about lying. I keep remembering that as I read these comments about stranny’s current behavior. I too was baffled at his lefty take on the dreamers. He seemed not to know what or who he was dealing with. It was silly really. Anyway, patterico was right and in retrospect provided some foreshadowing of future stranny behavior. AB would not have approved of his take on the dreamers. He would have taken them on, not sat around in drum circles praising them.

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  52. fedfef1 says:

    From the Yahoo article with Julison:

    “”If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order,” said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.”

    This lie about “HE IGNORED THE POLICE” will probably be told decades from now. I hear it all the time to this day. Julison is clearly a principal reason for this lie being embedded into the public conscious.

  53. fedfef1 says:

    And you know, maybe Ryan Julison didn’t know- as all the people who swallowed that bait indicate, it’s not exactly common knowledge. But that’s barely any better for someone who was doing what he did, and to make the accusation of police neglect so central to his story didn’t bother to actually look up how the law works in those regards. Though for someone who sold a story where “police neglect/racism/etc.” was a centerpoint, he never bothered to look into who Zimmerman was and find out he was white. Or he wasn’t a racist. Or that he didn’t weight around 250 pounds. Or that he didn’t unnecessarily call the police many times about black males and such.

    Or ever bothered to ask why the police mistakenly listed him as white.

    Ryan Julison is pure scum.

  54. fedfef1 says:

    found out he wasn’t white*

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