Lots of folks are praising Lindsey Graham for his stance about Benghazi. However, it is prudent to remember he has been a face of manipulated optical opposition before. I don’t trust Graham, and this could well be just another decepticon angle to keep the patriots away from the gates as they look back yelling “we got this”. They don’t want you, me, or anyone, looking over the wall or beyond the gate.
WASHINGTON DC - Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) appeared on CBS News’ Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer on Sunday where he pledged to try to block the nominations of both Chuck Hagel and John Brennan in an effort to get more information about the 2012 attack on an American consulate in Benghazi out of President Barack Obama.
Graham told Schieffer that he thought it was unfortunate that Obama did not place a personal call to officials in the Libyan government on the evening of September 11, 2012, when an American consulate in Libya was overrun by militants.
“I do believe, if he had picked up the phone and called the Libyan government, these folks could have gotten out of the airport to the annex and the last two guys may very well be alive,” Graham said. “If he failed to call on behalf of those people under siege, then I think that’s a massive failure of leadership by the commander-in-chief.”
“This seems to be a very disengaged president,” Graham said. “I’m not going to stop until we get an accounting.”
“If they don’t give you an answer, what can you do?” Schieffer asked. Graham replied that he was not prepared to vote to confirm either Brennan as CIA Director or Hagel as Secretary of Defense unless the White House comes forward with more information about the president’s actions on the night of the Benghazi attack. (read more)
Hagel – superstudent.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/02/10/Hagel-Went-to-Five-Colleges-Was-D-Student-Media-Oblivious
Seems to me that the media is evolving on this issue. It doesn’t appear to be bothering them anymore.
C’mon, makes for easier conversation if all in congress are below grade.
A long-time Capitol Hill Democrat astounded by the hearing tells me, “It is very clear from the testimony that Sen. Hagel will not be bringing the potato salad to the next Mensa picnic.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/01/31/hagel-sinking/
LOL
Did Bob Schieffer actually ask a rational question?? “If they don’t give you an answer….what do you do?” I believe he did.
I wonder why.
“I don’t trust Graham, and this could well be just another decepticon angle to keep the patriots away from the gates as they look back yelling “we got this”. They don’t want you, me, or anyone, looking over the wall or beyond the gate.”
I’m with Sundance on this one. I don’t trust any of ‘em anymore.
Oh, I don’t trust ‘em either. But it’s been years since I’ve heard Schieffer ask a relevant question. Just thought it was interesting and astonishing.
Even those with advanced dementia and Alzheimer’s have moments of lucidity.
Prob got a whoopin for that at commercial break from mr producer
WHAT?? We might not give foreign aid to Libya?? OMG!!
Some more info about what happened in Benghazi; Brennan is evil incarnate.
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/11/cia-nominee-john-brennans-secret-war-and-what-really-happened-in-benghazi/#disqus_thread
More about Brennan & reasoning why Obama nominated him.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/shock-claim-obama-picks-muslim-for-cia-chief/
An Obama nomination should suffice for disqualification from office.
I was getting notices on two of my Israeli sites that Hagel was going to be nominated over a week before it was pushed out to the public here. That means the MSM had to now also but waited until the POtuS announced before they began their praise of his wise and wonderful choice. .I know both of my Senators are against him, at least that’s what they say, but in the final analysis their votes will tell. It’s beginning to look to me as if the POtuS is pushing Israel to either totally fold and accept de facto UN/US/Arab oversight or risk launching an attack on Iran alone and accepting the consequences. Hagel is an Obama sock puppet, he’ll mouth Obama policy and absorb incoming heat so that the POtuS can remain serene as he sits under his bodhi tree. As for Benghazi, et al, that’s mostly run its interest course with the public in general, Obama managed to steer it through its news interest cycle and it’s now far behind ‘what donut do I have for breakfast’ in the public’s consciousness. I have seen one brief mention of it, and not in depth at that, in the last three days. Grammies, snow storms, bright shiny things on a string, they all take precedence now. Unless Hagel gets caught in bed with a mullah and a goat his confirmation will seep through the cracks of public interest too if the Administration can drag it out for a few more days.
Why do you think a mullah and a goat would make any difference? I don’t think it would. Evil being what it is…I just don’t think it would.
Probably not but it made for a really great fun thing in my mind.
Sheep-by-day, goats-by-night (Johnny Carson as Carnac the Magnificent).
Oh, dear.
It is interesting to think of what Carnac the Magnificent might do with the massive amounts of raw material with which we are being suffocated.
Probably choke on it. I see Leno laying into Obama now – you know that means the POtuS is starting to wear out his welcome in Tinsel Town.
“Graham told Schieffer that he thought it was unfortunate that Obama did not place a personal call to officials in the Libyan government on the evening of September 11, 2012, when an American consulate in Libya was overrun by militants.”
Zero made the gutsy call: He went to bed.
John Galt, we know that Panetta, and Dempsey, met with Obama at a PRE-planned meeting at 5:00 p.m., more than an hour after the attack in Benghazi started. That meeting lasted 30 minutes. We know that Obama placed a call to Benjamin Netanyahu that lasted from 8:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m.
What we don’t know is what Obama was doing between 5:30 p.m. and 8:00 p.m. and after 9:00 p.m.
Telling Panetta and Dempsey “Do what you need to do” is not executive orders. It is dumping the problem in someone else’s lap that has no authority to order “cross border” actions necessary to try to rescue the four Americans under seige.
I would suggest that all read a) Charlene Lamb’s testimony, not her prepared statement, but her testimony and then compare that with Panetta’s testimony. There are a number of discrepancies in what those two had to say. Their stories don’t jive.
All of this, at least on Panetta and Dempsey’s parts, is to cover up the real truth of what was going on in Libya, Fast & Furious, Mid-East Style. Let’s face it; we were running weapons to people that the UK press reported, more than once, were AQ or spinoffs of AQ. We were arming our enemies.
For what it is worth I mention that Obama went to bed early when Benghazi. First surfaced
1 of the underlings mentioned it. El Presidente had. adate at Vegas
Frankly, I’m a little weary already of all the headlines the last couple of days, “LOOK WHAT HE DID!!!!!!!!
” …………Because everything that Panetta said obama did and didn’t do is pretty much what anyone with normal brain function and an American heart knew within ten days, at the very latest. NONE of this has made me think I was getting fresh insight. None of it.
Grrrrrrrr…………………….. (not grrrr at you, canadacan—that’s a generic grrrrrr at all the stupidity and deception with which our nation is currently afflicted)
The muslim brotherhood are unrepentant Nazi allies from WWII who are joined with the Nazi agenda to exterminate the “stinking Jews” and for whom the decisive adverse outcome of WWII has never been accepted nor the failure to accomplish the fundamental agenda of killing all those “stinking Jews”, so for the muslim brotherhood WWII is unfinished Nazi business which is still being pursued in earnest as a policy and practice. There simply is no “reformed” muslim brotherhood of some new modern kinder gentler ambition and purpose but the muslim brotherhood still are exactly what they always have been which is a flip side of the Nazi coin of the realm ……a hater and exterminator of “stinking Jews”. So put that in context as Obama is gun running to what are essentially a remnant of hardcore Nazis who are the muslim brotherhood and historically reference their organization to the mufti of Jerusalem who was their honcho raghead in the Nazi collaboration days and when that same group I am pretty certain was linked with Rommel’s Afrika Corps killing Americans and anybody else interfering with the agenda of killing every “stinking Jew” on earth. Obama is arming the muslim brotherhood with some of the most advanced weapons like 16 of the F16 jets and 200 Abrams tanks and giving them billions in cash aid and many other arms also….like some Fast and Furious give a Nazi a gun agenda so they can be well equipped to continue to kill plenty of “stinking Jews” today continuing their Nazi tradition “Forward” so there can be “Change” accomplished that is “progressive”. It’s all great for anybody who isn’t a “stinking Jew” huh.
And as a parallel Nazi agenda on the Homeland Security front we see Barack “the Fuhrer” Soetoro advancing another plainly signature Nazi agenda of “universal gun registration” under the false pretense of “public safety” which is precisely the way Hitler did this as part of the gradualistic approach to ultimate gun confiscation of the weapons held by “undesirables” who were ultimately exterminated after being disarmed, with vast numbers of those “undesirables” being made defenseless by design of course being what class of people ….drum roll….you guessed it was a gun control scheme to facilitate the disarming and extermination of “stinking Jews”.
There have been enough derelictions of duty and security threats raised by this Barry Soetoro who has substituted and misused executive authority to circumvent law and to subvert the constitution instead of enforcing the law and bearing true faith and allegiance to the constitution, for such things to more than supply numerous valid grounds for IMPEACHMENT. Articles of impeachment should be drawn up and presented as an indictment and let the investigations proceed where they will and to whatever those investigations and indictments may lead, with the propaganda agencies laughingly called news media providing whatever colored coverage of the matter they may be pleased to offer as obfuscation and redefining of what is occurring as being “partisan politics” or any other way which the propagandists wish to characterize the Due Process that is occurring. That due process exists for getting rid of incompetent or subversive leaders and that process should be used, and whatever Chris Matthews or any of the rest of his same ilk may think about it ….well they can just be damned, along with 51% of the people if that is what it should turn out to be who would like to see their little nuovo black Hitler continue “forward” with his abuses and derelictions and usurpations and LIES. There are millions of self-identifying “liberals” for whom all of these “forward” type actions have simply gone too far already and other than the core racist support that would be expected for a Nazi to maintain, a lot of what was once the support for the tyrant has been nullified already by the excesses which were going to far. I believe impeachment would succeed when all that the man has been doing and its implications are fully laid bare for all to see. Some of that stuff is just too much even for a liberal. So why hasn’t there been any articles of impeachment for dereliction of duty and abuse of executive authority and subversive un-American activities that would make Joe McCarthy roll in his grave ? Is congress asleep or is congress now fully populated with decepticons who have been emasculated and haven’t got the balls to impeach another Hitler who is telling everyone who he is ?
The American Reichstag is too busy lining its own pockets to worry about anything as trivial as the destruction of what little Democracy is left in the country. I’m curious about the thirteen or so Jewish members of the US Senate, all Democrats or left-leaning ‘Independents’, who seem to be so strangely quiet about what’s going on in the White House relating to Israel. Granted they cannot be Zionists and Democrats at the same time, not with the Grand Mufti of Washington sitting as head of their party, but one would expect at least some squeaks of protest as he serves up their brothers and sisters to the Muslim world.
IMO it comes down to whether a person has the balls to call a Nazi what it is and do what is required responding to that evil. Some people have the balls to take care of business there and some don’t and everybody is finding out who is who in that bargain. History teaches where complacency in the face of such evil leads is to the prospering of that evil. Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. And that isn’t typing practice anymore but is a patriotic duty. A beast is on the loose and that beast needs to be put down decisively and its every subversive appendage ferreted out and liquidated. The wheels need to be ripped off that fifth column and its every truck put in the ditch burning.
.Timing is all,; either at some point they’ll end up like the French monarchy, one-by-one in the goodness of time., or the urban steers will whine and bleat all of the way to the ovens and leave the rest of us with the only alternative of being rounded-up like rats. I’m seeing some sort of sea change in the future, I’m just not sure when it will be and what will trigger it. Not a lot of happy campers out there
The smell of cordite in the air seems inevitable. There is open blatant lying by Obama about how most of the members of the NRA favor gun registration which is simply ludicrous. Even if it was true, the NRA is not necessarily the voice of all gun owners by any stretch and millions of gun owners will refuse any registration for the obvious good reasons. It truly is a “tripwire” issue.
We have law-abiding citizens whose right to own a defensive, sporting or collector’s firearm(s) will be limited to such an extent as to make ownership pointless. In the meantime we have groups such as the Fruit of Islam and New Black Panthers who are incorporating as security firms and will be allowed access to and ownership of weapons law-abiding citizens are banned from owing, or need almost impossible to get permits to possess. Soon many other groups such as the Latino anti-American and Muslim terrorist shills will catch on and start incorporating too. Their ‘employees’ will have police powers that vary according to what the jurisdiction that licenses them lets them have (just who is Rahm having patrol Chicago streets?) and weapons training that most law abiding US citizens in urban (and some suburban) areas cannot get. Fee Fie Fo Fum, I smell the blood of a lot of Englishmen in the streets…
It wouldn’t do any good to impeach him as long asReid s running the Senate. He would never allow a trial.
I wouldn’t make it about “politics”. Go to a new level of “communication”. Make Reid an offer he can’t refuse. Make it plain to Reid that clarity is key and take off the gloves to make sure he gets the message real good ….no matter where that leads, choosing peace and good would be his “smart play” instead of going the other way…..same for Pelosi and the rest of the fifth column “crew” ….no more games… no more half measures dealing with subversives and oath violators…..lay down the law and then enforce it… it works for me
Who do you see, in either the House or Senate, who is able and willing to do what you describe?
Actually I was thinking more of military or intelligence, you know those sort of men who have no aversion for wet work or persuasion. Even some of the mafia can be dutifully patriotic when it comes to dealing persuasively with Nazis. When dealing with criminals who aren’t playing by any rules, and doing things the “right way” isn’t getting anywhere, then it is time for plan B… no more mister nice guy.
I understand the desire. Do you believe that is a possibility? At the rate our SEALs are being murdered and Officers are being destroyed, demoted and removed is there a core with the necessarily mobility? Seems like a pretty tiny window of opportunity to me considering the fearlessness of our lawless government.
I think that unregistered “effective lobbying” goes on already a lot more than people will ever know about, and a lot of the bureaucrats who are “fifth column operatives” are already in the pocket or in the service of persons of whom they are rightly fearful. A lot of these congress people are agents for other criminals they represent while pretending to be public servants. Yeah I would say there is a window of opportunity that is being gradually closed by the hour. Gun control is a part of that strategy. The writing is on the wall for where it is all leading eventually if some effective intervention does not occur. Even liberals are rightly concerned about 11 to 20 million illegal aliens suddenly being by edict and declaration or executive order “made to be” U.S. citizens, when the U.S. can’t provide jobs even for the actual bona fide citizens it already has. And many liberals share the security concerns over the counterintuitive to national security, un-American, “muslim brotherhood / Nazi friendly” aspect that has become clear about the present administration which does NOT reflect the wishes or interests of the people.
“….many liberals share the security concerns …”
Really. Too bad they apparently are unable to express that concern.
The propaganda ministries don’t speak for all of them, just like the Republican party does not speak for all conservatives.
I’m aware of “conservative Republicans” speaking up for themelves in many venues. I am not aware of liberals speaking up for themselves in any noticeable way. Don’t mean to just sound contrary, but I will no longer extend the benefit to anyone who doesn’t have scratchmarks all over their face and blood dripping off their hands. Those “rescuers,” those hidden, silent patriots we may be “waiting for”? I no longer believe they exist.
Hmmm about the esteemed statesmen of the House and Senate ….
So, who are these people ? ? ?
36 have been accused of spousal abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
19 have been accused of writing bad checks
117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
3 have done time for assault
71, I repeat 71, cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
8 have been arrested for shoplifting !
21 currently are defendants in lawsuits, and
84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year !
Can you guess which organization this is ?
it’s the 535 members of the United States Congress
The same group that cranks out hundreds of new laws each year
designed to keep the rest of us in line.
and if they had to apply for security clearances like the rest of us
– They Would Not Get Them !
Oh my good Lord no wonder the prison population is down…They are serving in the House or Senate..
Now you know why we really don’t need any infringement of the second amendment ….the leadership of the country is a bad neighborhood which requires armed adult supervision
Which is precisely why I’ve been pointing out for at least two years that that group of 535 ne’er-do-wells are ok with the things that this administration is doing.
Your listing of the Congressional rap sheet nicely illustrates why there is no reason to look to them to implement the law, apply the Constitution or think that impeachment (and a trial in the Senate) are necessary or desirable.
We are no longer a republic functioning under the rule of law and have not been for some time.
Actually I knew something bad was up when Nixon took away minting of silver coinage and trashed everybody’s pockets with non silver sandwich coins. It was the jingle of real silver in pockets that helped keep the world sane and when that sound went away it has been downhill ever since. Like the day the music stopped one more time .. bye bye miss american pie
I understand your point–and realize that personally, I’m still in the process of backing up further and further–to try to see the big picture.
What were Nixon’s motivations for introducing the sandwich coins? And who behind him was wanting that to happen?
I think JFK was killed over opposing it. I’m a little slow on my history right now but IIRC it is an age old illuminati banking scheme that was worked previously against the Bank of England by the same crew. Liquidate a country and essentially seize control in the shadows through the banking system. Shadow governments are real. It could explain a lot that just doesn’t quite add up about our own government.
Actually I never stopped carrying silver coins in my pocket, just to remind me what it feels like in a world before the forced march to the land of make believe. I bounce a silver dollar on a counter and at the sound a dozen people turn and look at the odd sound of real silver ringing …….I find it highly amusing to do this from time to time, and then to say oops I can’t spend that one …here take these coins instead and then I pay with the lesser value stuff.
Daylight savings time and political correctness were additional aspects of the brainwashing of the masses being conditioned for the forced march to the brave new world. The silver was just one aspect of the plot. I saw it for the scheme it is and have never been deceived by any of it. There is duality about this world, the world we are shown …..and there is another more real world we do not see, reserved for the elite.
Due to Graham’s support of the Drone mess, I am not sure how I stand on him anymore.
I am beginning to wonder if he is looking for another higher office…
Even Romney made the huge mistake of supporting NDAA and other blatantly unconstitutional “security related” kinds of issues. Those things are NOT conservative credentials but are all about unlimited discretionary POWER being placed in the hands of one man. That runs absolutely contrary to the concept of checks and balances and the rule of law based upon the constitution. It doesn’t matter how wonderful the man is, there are good reasons WHY no one man should have so much authority and why no one man should even seek such authority because of the dangerous precedent and mechanisms that it puts in place, which could be abused by a less noble successor unworthy of such discretionary executive authority. The president is not and never should be a king, even in an “emergency”.
Great post!
You. always make an intelligent case Walter pic .
I’m sure how I stand: he’s a useful idiot. And maybe he can occasionally be our useful idiot.
Good timeline of events in Benghazi using recent testimony:
http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/2013/02/pentagon-knew-stevens-smith-were-dead-at-530-pm-obama-not-notified-until-4-am-next-day-what-about-the-5-pm-meeting/
The survivors of the Benghazi terrorist attack on the CIA ammo and munitions dump have been sequestered incommunicado for a reason and Congress needs to talk to every one of them and find out what are the reasons they have been boxed and gagged.
Just recently we saw the celebration of the survivors of the ones Reagan got set free when he became President.. Yet, does anyone know WHO the H3LL got out of the embassy???
Nope.
Thanks dizzymiss!