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Oh Captain, My Captain….

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….”now that we’ve got the 40, you can eliminate the scary ones right”?…  “I mean the ones that just wanted me Dead or alive”…..  Right? ……  Right? 

Sharon said:  

In a trial, all the witnesses swear to tell the truth.  Then a jury is seated for the sole purpose of attempting to determine who’s telling the truth…..

….but wait!

…….there’s a fly in the ointment!

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Retained State V. Zimmerman Trial Jurors

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DATE – JUROR – SEX – AGE (Estimate) – RACE (Unofficial) – DETAILS

  1. 6/10 B-12 F 40s-50s White 1st interviewed, grandmother, lives 10 miles from scene
  2. 6/10 B-29 F 40s Black Moved to FL from Chicago four months ago, mom of 7
  3. 6/10 B-76 F 50s-60s White Seminole resident since 1981, could not ID Trayvon’s mom
  4. 6/11 B-7 M 40s-50s White Noticed people taking sides, worried about anonymity after trial
  5. 6/11 B-35 M 40s-50s Black Tax preparer, no opinion despite “pro-Trayvon” family/friends
  6. 6/11 B-37 F 50s White Animal rescue volunteer, has 2 grown daughters, multiple pets
  7. 6/11 B-51 F 60s-70s White Retired, shooting “sad on both sides,” no interest in “limelight”
  8. 6/11 B-86 F early 50s White School admin. worker, heard Trayvon was “expelled” (more…)

Day #7 (Week #2) Zimmerman Trial – Open Discussion Thread

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Today, June 18, is DAY #7 (of 2nd week) of the scheduled State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case. Continuing jury selection. [Day #6 Summary Here]

(correction)  Jury selection is expected to continue with the “Frye Hearing” set to resume at 4:00pm set to resume on Wednesday with the State Prosecution recalling their expert, Tom Owen, to discuss whether the cries for help heard on the 911 call can be identified.   [Tom Owen stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night]

Yesterday the Defense expert, Dr. James L Wayman, testified from 4pm to 8:30pm – Judge Nelson is expected to rule on whether this information is presented to the jury during trial, or whether it is too conflicting to have divergent experts dispute each other. (more…)

THREAD #2 – Day #6 Zimmerman Trial – Open Discussion (Should Include Frye Hearing)

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Today, June 17 is DAY #6 (beginning of 2nd week) of the scheduled State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case. Continuing jury selection. [First Week Summary HERE]

Jury selection is expected to continue with the “Frye Hearing” set to resume at 4:00pm with the defense providing their expert to discuss whether the cries for help heard on the 911 call can be identified. Nelson is expected to rule on whether this information is presented to the jury during trial, or whether it is too conflicting to have divergent experts dispute each other.

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Day #6 (Week #2) Zimmerman Trial – Open Discussion Thread

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Today, June 17 is DAY #6  (beginning of 2nd week) of the scheduled State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case. Continuing jury selection.  [First Week Summary HERE]

Jury selection is expected to continue with the “Frye Hearing” set to resume at 4:00pm with the defense providing their expert to discuss whether the cries for help heard on the 911 call can be identified.    Nelson is expected to rule on whether this information is presented to the jury during trial, or whether it is too conflicting to have divergent experts dispute each other.

During the Friday hearing one potential jurist slipped close review:  Prospective Juror G81

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“Fire In The Hole” – These folks really don’t want answers to their ponderings….. It’s too difficult to accept.

patriotSometimes you’ve got to call the baby ugly.  

If things were not rapidly approaching a critical mass – this would not be needed.   Alas they are, and it is, and emotional obfuscations and insufferable detachments from reality need to be confronted:

Nettles:    In reading Robert Zimmerman’s book yesterday, I opined the characterization of Mr. O’Mara as a control freak was going to set off Diwataman and Sundance. Not sure if that is why the post today but it’s highly likely.

*yes, Correct.  THAT, and desperate plea(s) for immediate help – were the reasons for sharing the reality that is the O’Mara nightmare…./SD

Sundance is close-minded on the subject. He shut down my voice on it and many others. So with each posting those who disagree will shut-up or get banned. He’s entitled to his opinion as each of us are as well.  (link)

Pinecone (minpin) You guessed correctly Nettles. Yes, sundance has taken the O’mara said he was a control freak statement all the way in his latest trash piece. (more…)

A Father, A Good Man, A Book Review – Robert Zimmerman Senior

Robert Zimmerman SeniorPained, troubled and brave–those are the sentiments, turned adjectives, I would use to describe the word-image when reading the recently published book by Robert Zimmerman Sr.

Knowing the Zimmerman family found some form of understanding through the research we had compiled last year surrounding the entire scheme to arrest George Zimmerman is good. Reading the words of George’s father, Robert, we can grasp the feeling of being overwhelmed. ‘Fleas looking into the furnace of hate’ is how we visualized them last year.

The recent publication outlines that sense with profound affirmation.

As followers of this site will know by now, there was a time several months ago when all of my available options were exhausted. Our promise of intellectual honesty demanded we not pull punches, and speak the truth openly and directly regardless of consequence. But when it came to honest discussion of George’s legal counsel, Mark O’Mara, we knew the ground was precarious and filled with invisible land mines. Trepidations were overwhelming.

So reluctantly, out of fear of undermining George Zimmerman’s defense, and yet the need for a necessarily dictated honesty, we reached out to his Dad. (more…)

Thread #2 – Zimmerman Trial Day #5 – Open Discussion Thread *UPDATE* Added O’Mara Presser

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Today, June 14th is DAY #5 of the scheduled State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case. Continuing jury selection. Yesterday the Court continued its preliminary questioning of prospective jurors, moving through 10 candidates by the end of the day.

The biggest event of the day, however, occurred shortly after the lunch recess when Judge Nelson’s announced from the bench that she would be ordering the sequestration of the jury for the duration of the trial,. She based this decision on the fact that both parties agreed the trial was likely to take two to four weeks, as opposed to the four to six weeks that many had anticipated.

It appeared that she had been inclined to sequester the jury if the sequestration period was not to be too long. With the agreement on the likely shorter duration of the trial, the balance swung in favor of sequestration. [Yesterday summary HERE]

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Three Live-Streaming Links: *By Far the best live – Stream is from FOX and available at the first link: (more…)

Day #5 Zimmerman Trial – Open Discussion Thread

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Today, June 14th is DAY #5 of the scheduled State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case. Continuing jury selection. Yesterday the Court continued its preliminary questioning of prospective jurors, moving through 10 candidates by the end of the day.

The biggest event of the day, however, occurred shortly after the lunch recess when Judge Nelson’s announced from the bench that she would be ordering the sequestration of the jury for the duration of the trial,.  She based this decision on the fact that both parties agreed the trial was likely to take two to four weeks, as opposed to the four to six weeks that many had anticipated.

It appeared that she had been inclined to sequester the jury if the sequestration period was not to be too long.  With the agreement on the likely shorter duration of the trial, the balance swung in favor of sequestration.  [Yesterday summary HERE]

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Three Live-Streaming Links: *By Far the best live – Stream is from FOX and available at the first link: (more…)

Florida V Zimmerman: Uncovering The Malicious Prosecution of My Son – By Robert Zimmerman Sr.

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Quick note from Robert Sr Follows: (Edit for privacy content) […] I believe from your experience in dealing with the media in Orlando, as well as elsewhere, you can see that’s [it’s] not an easy task.   However, I am publishing a book on Amazon /Nook that should be available either Fri or Sat. (Florida v. Zimmerman Uncovering the Malicious Prosecution of My Son, George)

I thank CTH and contributors in the book. (Wave, Wave)

Sincerely, our family truly appreciates the work CTH has done.

Robert Zimmerman