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Benjamin Crump and Subornation of Perjury – The “Horse Shedding” Of Witness #8 (Repost with full prior comments)

Natalie Jackson and Benjamin Crump
Natalie Jackson and Benjamin Crump

Trayvon Martin family attorney, Benjamin Crump, is both an attorney for the Martin family, and simultaneously an identified, albeit unlisted, material witness in the case against George Zimmerman.

Crump is a material witness because of his specific and intentional engagement of Witness #8, Dee Dee, and her subsequent presentation to the State of Florida.

Benjamin Crump has also been assigned special status, as co-counsel of sorts, for the prosecution, by Florida Judge Nelson when she ruled he was not subject to deposition by the defense.

Subornation of Perjury – In American law and in Scots law the subornation of perjury is the crime of persuading a person to commit perjury — the swearing of a false oath to tell the truth in a legal proceeding, be it spoken or written. The term subornation of perjury further describes the circumstance wherein an attorney at law causes a client to lie, or allows another party to lie, under oath.

In legal practice, the condition of suborning perjury applies to a lawyer who presents either testimony or an affidavit, or both, either to a judge or to a jury, which the attorney knows to be materially false, and not factual.

In civil law and in criminal law, the attorney’s knowledge that the testimony is materially false must rise above mere suspicion to what an attorney would reasonably have believed in the circumstances of the matter discussed in the testimony. Hence, the attorney cannot be wilfully blind to the fact that his or her witness is giving false, perjurious testimony.

Moreover, an attorney who actively encourages a witness to give false testimony is suborning perjury, which is a crime punished either with formal disciplinary action, disbarment, or jail, or a combination thereof.

Likewise, a false statement by an attorney in court also is a crime similar to subornation of perjury, and is punished accordingly. Hence, in the professional conduct of an attorney at law, there is a fine delineation between assisting a witness to recall occurred events and encouraging him or her to give materially false testimony. (more…)

Witness #8 – First Crowdsourcing Thread – Deconstructing The lies – – – *Update – Videos Added!

Bearing false and improper witness

Witness 8

I am stupid busy right now trying to get back home and out of this damned rest area using a broadband connection that stinks. (Also traffic just sucks) AND I have to be back over here at 8:30am tomorrow  – (we will put up video of W8 testimony asap) 

In the interim, remove your snark hats, remove your emotional dropped jaw, and focus, focus, focus on what she said today – while contrasted against:

1.)  Her first original interview with Ben Crump and ABC.

2.)  Her first written statement.

3.)  Her first interview with State of Florida LEO

What specific aspects are lies and faleshoods.   After you have provided the context for the falsehood identified, then outline the possible line of inquiry that West/O’Mara might take to expose the lie in court.   Again, be intellectual in analysis – not emotional.

Provide the substance and How the question would be appropriately framed.

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Thread 5 – Day 13 (Week #3) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread

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Today, June 26th, is DAY #13 (of 3rd week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case. An explosive second day of deconstructed witness testimony took place yesterday. Which leads to the “big question”: Will witness #8, Rachel Jeantel, be called to the stand today? (more…)

Thread 4 – Day 13 (Week #3) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread…

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Today, June 26th, is DAY #13 (of 3rd week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case. An explosive second day of deconstructed witness testimony took place yesterday. Which leads to the “big question”: Will witness #8, Rachel Jeantel, be called to the stand today? (more…)

Thread 3 – Day 13 (Week #3) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread…

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Today, June 26th, is DAY #13 (of 3rd week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case. An explosive second day of deconstructed witness testimony took place yesterday. Which leads to the “big question”: Will witness #8, Rachel Jeantel, be called to the stand today? (more…)

Thread 2 – Day 13 (Week #3) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread…

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Today, June 26th, is DAY #13 (of 3rd week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case. An explosive second day of deconstructed witness testimony took place yesterday. Which leads to the “big question”: Will witness #8, Rachel Jeantel, be called to the stand today? (more…)

Day 13 (Week #3) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread…

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Today, June 26th, is DAY #13 (of 3rd week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case. An explosive second day of deconstructed witness testimony took place yesterday.  Which leads to the “big question”:  Will witness #8, Rachel Jeantel, be called to the stand today? (more…)

How Bad Was The Initial Media Lying?….. Beyond Insufferable

Again, this is 4 and 1/2 minutes of your life you can never get back – But it helps to understand just how ridiculously biased the media was at the beginning of the entire fiasco. This audio/video was the example, the origin which followed our conversations with Ryan Julison, where Ytz4Me and myself decided to take on Matt Gutman specifically.

There have been many media journalists who have malpracticed with this case. But if you had to pick the top three I think Matt Gutman would be on everyone’s list. His reporting ran on ABC news morning, noon, and night – and was picked up by ABC online print broadcasting. After listening to this you can understand why Ryan Julison and the Scheme Team picked him for so many exclusives. Including taking him along to Mayor Tripletts office for the 911 call tape meeting; and the infamous “Dee Dee” interview of 3/19/12.

Tree House Housekeeping Stuff….

Two pictures that bring a smile. The first picture is what Truth does within a discussion of witnesses. When a witness is presented, and the accused has no ulterior motive, no ill intent, and is not constitutionally guilty of what he stands accused of; he has the capacity to talk to the truth of people as they present themselves.

This is what it looks like when you are confronting false witness.

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The second great picture is the O’Mara expression all those who would bear false witness should see.  This is the deliberate look of comfortable in confrontation. When you understand what exactly “FALSE WITNESS” means  -in its purest original form-  then you understand there’s no other confrontation method that works.  Period.

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