What is surfacing now, five years later, is a stronger understanding of just how the establishment medical complex determined the safety and efficacy protocols of the COVID-19 vaccination. They had theories, they had speculation, they had scientific discussion; but ultimately, they did not know to what extent the vaccine was safe – and statistically it wasn’t safe.
Looking back on recent history, the COVID experience stands out. The lessons from observing the government’s response, and how people reacted to it, have influenced our perspective on many topics related to liberty and freedom.
I turn to faith, read the gospel and recognize in more than a few ways the COVID experience was a generational test.
It is generally accepted that somewhere around 60 to 70% of Americans accepted the COVID vaccine, although a great many of those who took the vaccine did so under tremendous pressure, essentially under duress and without fully informed consent.
There really was no way to apply “informed consent” to the process because the ‘information’ that should have supported the consent was skewed, shaped and in many instances intentionally manipulated. Again, the pressure for compliance to the process was extreme; beyond extreme. I said at the time we had never seen such a pressure campaign on any topic or issue as aggressively oppressive as we endured during two-years of COVID vaccination compliance pressure.
I do not fault anyone who took the vaccine. In fact, I hold great empathy toward those who now live with the hindsight question of their life potentially being shortened. Everyone has been impacted by this medical experiment and the subsequent sociological implications in the aftermath.
A few days ago, a person wanted to discuss Dr Anthony Fauci’s testimony with me. I never bring up the subject of the COVID vaccine; not ever in personal discussion. However, if it is brought up to me, I will engage carefully, honestly and with empathy. I was asked about Fauci taking the fifth amendment and his previous grant of immunity by Joe Biden.
My response was short, purposeful and direct. Why would Anthony Fauci need criminal immunity? A lengthy reframing of the question resulted from my friend, who essentially then repeated it. Again, I responded, “why would any agent of the United States govt even begin a thought process that immunity for criminal activity would be needed?”
Silently, inside my mind I wonder if perhaps I’ve spent too much time learning about the way Russian people think. They are like American mid-westerners of old; the questions are much shorter and more direct; there is no pretense.
Why did Fauci need immunity? Why indeed. Someone knew something, eh?
That sense, the one we all carry that alerts us when something just doesn’t add up, doesn’t sit right, doesn’t reconcile unless we pretend something else exists in the sentence to explain the stuff that doesn’t reconcile. The stuff inside the sentence we create in order to explain or justify is the nonexistent stuff, the pretending stuff. Take the pretending out of the thought, and suddenly you know the answer. [Again, now you are thinking like a Russian.]
We are in an abusive relationship with government. The COVID-19 experience created a shortcut to show us just how extensive and abusive that relationship is. How many Americans have physically been harmed in this example, and how many millions more are suffering the downstream consequences of continued codependent denial.
COVID-19 was the embodiment of the truism: “when push comes to shove.”
How far are you willing to go -what pain are you willing to suffer through- to retain your definition of liberty, freedom and sovereign control. Is there a price? The COVID-19 experience gave us all the uncomfortable answers….. and now the discussion necessarily gets quiet in mixed company.
Many people are angry. Many people have every emotional right to be angry. The scale of vaccine compliance suffering runs the gambit from collapsed friendships to lost jobs, broken marriages, to painful isolation and yes, to death itself.
There is no way to measure cold anger at a scale not entirely visible.
Several years ago, CTH said to gently avoid touching the sensitive nerve of those vaccinated, there is no way for them to retreat from the decision. Done is done.
Genuine human empathy must be applied generously, while simultaneously a pragmatic perspective must be maintained.
Each person can define and judge but choosing to express that judgement is a different matter entirely. Remember, for the vaccinated all discussion is zero-sum.
As the revelations about the vaccine administrators, their thoughts, their severely compromised and corrupt activity continues to surface, it is worthwhile reminding ourselves that some people need to retain cognitive denial in order to avoid seeing the vaccinated person in the mirror.
The credibility of all U.S. government institutions has collapsed; all of them.
Let me repeat. When you stop pretending you accept the credibility of all U.S. government institutions has collapsed in our lifetime. The only people left covering for this collapse are those who need to retain the illusion of institutional credibility.
The Food and Drug Administration permits toxic chemicals in food and is controlled by Big Rx.
The United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) is controlled by Big Ag.
The corporate media are controlled by their corporate advertisers.
Manage your personal affairs accordingly.
We may not live there, but we are all Russians now.
This is a must watch clip from the pandemic.
2021. CNN hunts down and confronts a doctor for spreading “misinformation” online. What was some of the “misinformation” he was spreading? Masks may not work and vaccines can be dangerous.
CNN hunted this guy down at his home and… pic.twitter.com/e7NIH1vCLl
— MAZE (@mazemoore) August 11, 2026
Making medical decisions based upon Pro-Trump or anti-Trump reasoning was an obvious fools errand. That was the first clue.
No better spokeswomen than Kamala Harris before the 2020 election – would you ever take drugs recommended by Donald Trump she scoffed. Then after Biden won, she was on the front lines cramming it into everyone’s arms.
That was not medical advice, it was a political con job. Take a bow, Kamala. How many now dead babies are on your watch too?
<...it was a political con job.>
Political con jab 🙂
It was better at killing the jabbed than giving immunity from, or stopping the spreading of the Fauci virus.
What I’ve been angriest about from the beginning was the children. It was known and well publicized from the outset that children with no major underlying health problems would not notice the difference between COVID and a cold. There was never any justification for requiring children to be vaccinated.
Yes, obviously there was never any justification for adults either, but it’s just more evil to do that to kids. And even more evil than than to push it on pregnant moms.
I wonder if Texas and other states can criminally charge Fauci for fraudulently pushing an abortifacient without the mother’s knowledge.
The clot shot should have been given to the border jumpers.
The fact that it wasn’t was a HUGE tell.
This!
the deep staters probably chuckled knowing it would harm/potentially kill children. They do, after all, worship Moloch.
CNN begins with an unsupported, non researched conclusion and turns it into religious conviction. Every comment aims to accuse and condemn without a trace of intellectual curiosity. Their well-paid mouthpieces are drones without a mind of their own, like Scientologists repeating Hubbard dogma to anyone watching. I could not hate the media enough. God alone will judge them as it sure won’t happen here.
Shocking how Americans are so overwrought daily about their “health.” It has become some strange addiction. My generation spent decades NOT fixated on “health”. We just lived w/o constantly being obsessed with every tiny issue.
I have felt like I was in 2020 most of my life.
I have been labeled an “aginner” more than once.
It sure gets interesting when you see people later after it is proven your position was the right one.
Had a co-worker during peak COVID shenanigans and he and his parents were from Communist Russia. His affect was bleak. I asked him about his parents, what happened to them prior to them immigrating here, in light of what we were all going through with the vaccine mandate. Interesting conversation. Ultimately I decided to move out of state, like lots of other people, and I remember him asking me: what if the gov’t never stops coming after you, what if you go through all of this trouble and in the end you cannot stop it? I told him, then they will have to put a bullet in my head. He was somewhat surprised at that.
Anyway, I have been living like his bleak dreary affect ever since.
Pay attention. Now the flu “vaccine” is mRNA crap. Same outfit (Moderna) and the hype machine in overdrive. Wouldn’t surprise me if that clot shot comes with a little bonus of COVID “vaccine”.
I absolutely regret getting the clot shot. Thankfully, I haven’t had any ill effects (that I know of). I was effectively forced by my employer at the time (one of the other big pharmas) to get it because they were a government contractor and they had to get everyone vaccinated. I began to be concerned when I drove up to the company inoculation operation and noticed an ambulance parked in the background of the car parking lot where we sat for 30 minutes (doors unlocked, please — we don’t want to break your windows if you pass out). We had lots of lectures about PPE and distancing and how to cover a sneeze, but never once did they trot out an actual scientist or medical doctor who would explain how the mRNA stuff was supposed to work. That should have told me all that I needed to know.
In a front page headline, in the winter of ’22, the Toronto Star ordered the injected to kill those who were not, including immediate family, to protect themselves from the Covid Pandemic. Forgive? Never! Forget? Never! They must be identified and labelled; denial is impossible.
I wonder what kind of roles will be expected from those who refused the vx. Will we be the only ones healthy enough? The only ones left? I feel like we are in an unending episode of The Outer Limits.
I remember vividly the day I had the realization that they wanted us dead. Sick from the disease, sick from the cure, and empty grocery shelves.
Listening to the CNN tape above brought back such anger. Everyone of us who refused the vaccine have paid a price in our private ad professional lives and I am sure many of us, myself included still suffer the loss of relationship–for me, with my son and his wife. We all knew eventually this day was coming when the truth would come out but the anger of listening to how Dr. Mercola, among others, was vilified, targeted, and mocked has not diminished but intensified.
Looking back, scientific theories and medical speculation seemed to have its most legitimate place in the early days when there were some reported issues on the clotting front and the corresponding impact on treatment protocols. This was in the relatively short period of time where people generally seemed to be trying to get a grip on those differences amidst the first few reports that accompanied photos of caskets in Italy appearing to be stacked up like cordwood. The lack of robust efforts in many places for proper context may have appeared to set the tone for what followed.
Once it became clear that this was not Ebola but was a particular strain of a “coronavirus“, one would’ve hoped that treatment protocols and other prevention/minimization of impact approaches would’ve taken hold. At that point, there seemed to be simply no cause for treating this like viral Ebola calling for the quarantine measures at the level that were advocated for and then mandated from governmental bodies.
I seem to recall Fauci in particular appearing to disavow masking of the kind that came into vogue, as this was a “virus” that thus would be able to permeate. That would have seemed to make superfluous and even ridiculous the masking that ended up being in fashion. However, when masking became the symbol of “doing something“, even hospitals where they had apparently eschewed masking for generations related to lack of viral efficacy reportedly started being in lockstep in their aggression about it.
Places like Sweden and Florida (after they opened back up) were standing as examples over the long interval of (mask-free) normal-sized gatherings before a purported vaccine would even be rushed into production. Even in places besides those, whatever somebody was going to be doing over the period of time – – almost a year – – between the initial shutdown and the vaccine rollout to stay alive would’ve seemed to have made more sense on a prevention and personal / herd immunity front. That could include trying not to let your immune system tank and treating early — maybe leaning a little more on the isolation front for a few days or a week — rather than powering through it.
Later reports seemed to indicate that any other approach or protocol on the hospital treatment front could’ve potentially knocked down remdesivir as a front line hospital approach. Also, anything else found to be effective reportedly may have affected — and possibly even negated — the “emergency” status that allowed the purported vaccines to go out and be deployed the way they were. Thus, many scientific theories and medical speculations at the time – – such as people not even catching the virus, let alone passing it along to others if they received the shot – – may be viewed with that as background context.
I recall having heard this first take from Fauci, which amounted to “all the things that we say each year”. When the messaging seemed to go definitively the other way so soon, that seemed problematic and telling to me.
February 17, 2020: “Top disease official: Risk of coronavirus in USA is ‘minuscule’; skip mask and wash hands”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/02/17/nih-disease-official-anthony-fauci-risk-of-coronavirus-in-u-s-is-minuscule-skip-mask-and-wash-hands/4787209002/
“Fauci says skip the masks unless you are contagious, don’t worry about catching anything from Chinese products and certainly don’t avoid Chinese people or restaurants. “Whenever you have the threat of a transmissible infection, there are varying degrees from understandable to outlandish extrapolations of fear,” Fauci said.”
“Masks. The only people who need masks are those who are already infected to keep from exposing others. The masks sold at drugstores aren’t even good enough to truly protect anyone, Fauci said. “If you look at the masks that you buy in a drug store, the leakage around that doesn’t really do much to protect you,” he said. “People start saying, ‘Should I start wearing a mask?’ Now, in the United States, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to wear a mask.””
“Fauci doesn’t want people to worry about coronavirus, the danger of which is “just minuscule.” But he does want them to take precautions against the “influenza outbreak, which is having its second wave.”
“”We have more kids dying of flu this year at this time than in the last decade or more,” he said. “At the same time people are worrying about going to a Chinese restaurant. The threat is (we have) a pretty bad influenza season, particularly dangerous for our children.”
Fauci offered advice for people who want to protect against the “real and present danger” of seasonal flu, which also would protect against the hypothetical danger of coronavirus.
“”Wash your hands as frequently as you can. Stay away from crowded places where people are coughing and sneezing. If in fact you are coughing and sneezing, cover your mouth,” he says. “You know, all the things that we say each year.””
I find it highly ironic, that the average citizen does not wash their hands after using the restroom. Lots of university studies verify that…am curious about the difference with the ‘rona…suddenly every one is now washing hands and wiping things down with expensive disinfectant wipes…why not before?
“Why would Anthony Fauci need criminal immunity?”
I am reminded of the sage words of James Tiberius Kirk, Captain, USS Enterprise, United Federation of Planets:
“What does God need with a starship?”
–Star Trek V – The Final Frontier (1989)
What did we learn? THEY will kill you, your defenseless aged, your babies, your children. They will maim you, they will foment public unrest, destroy the work of generations. Our current reality is run by psychopaths with no boundaries. Perhaps the most demonic period in human history. And they do not intend to be deposed or accept any accountability.
Why should the v’ax industry have full immunity from lawsuits?
Isn’t that the same thing that a pardon would cover?
“The credibility of all U.S. government institutions has collapsed; all of them.”
I came to this conclusion a few years ago. It was devastating. The largest part of my belief structure had been destroyed. Although difficult to accept, this realization did force me to direct my faith towards God, the only legitimate source of truth, righteousness, and justice. Now, instead of relying on man to extract justice, I live my life patiently knowing that justice will prevail. God has this under control.
“The credibility of all U.S. government institutions has collapsed; all of them.”
When the bio weapon so called vaccine came out I did my research.
there were a few people warning of the dangers of an experimental Mnra shot that would produce spike proteins in cells and cause body harm.
These brave people saved many lives.
Those people who did their own research found the truth.
The jab killed your natural immune system and would cause health problems short and long term if you survived the clot shot.
I saw several people dropping dead on youtube just after getting the jab.
They were promoting its safety?😳
I warned all that would listen to the facts about the deadly jab.
Some said they knew but had to get the jab to see loved ones ir keep a job.
How many of these people are suffering or are dead?
Trump trusted fouchey and scarf lady.
He was deceived as millions of others.
Trump was deceived and telling prople operation warp jab was safe.
People like me knew better by the grace of God.
People for sure are in denial about the jab because they won’t face the truth.
They were duped.
Especially those who got the jab and 4 or 5 jab boosters.
Those are more at risk.
Don’t trust Anyone without getting more information.
Especially if its a no turing back injection into your body.
The medical, pharmacutical and goverment cannot be trusted.
https://vaccines.news
People act like this was a hard call. It wasn’t. That is the scary part.
With that said, and I have mentioned this before, but I have background in biological sciences with more than layman’s knowledge of virology, immunology, cell biology and genetics. The moment learned anything about this virus it was A-bomb level alarm bells. The moment I learned anything about this “vaccine” it was H-bomb level alarm bells. I made a pact with my better half that we would be homeless, starving and jailed before being forced to take that jab.
I lost half my family because I chose not to get vaccinated. Those wounds are only now beginning to heal. I have no forgiveness in my heart For those who brought this upon us. I WILL NOT FORGET!!
Thank you, Sundance!
Regarding the notion of “vaccine hesitancy” – the very phrase connotes all the insufferable posing as if to care for the people being approached – that would include Mayor Bowser of DC trotting along with “Dr. Fauci” when they went to visit folks in Anacostia where it seemed there was a lot of that “vaccine hesitancy” in that DC neighborhood. The gentleman near the end of the video clip made an excellent point, “why is it being incentivized?”
Interesting to read all the stories of people who lived through the Covid experience and how they handled it.
I come from a large family with 11 living siblings. Out of the 11 only four decided that they should follow the science. And they were deathly afraid of the rest of us. I think maybe they still are a bit. I haven’t said a word to the four who succumbed. And none have mentioned it to me lately. But some of them didn’t want me in their house, etc..
I have always been a researcher of all things health related and when I decided I wasn’t taking the shot I knew there must be some other way to boost my immune system and keep myself as healthy as possible so that if I did get the Covid, it would not impact me as much. I couldn’t get hydroxychloroquine so I made my own tonic water from the fever tree bark. I took ivermectin paste from the Tractor Supply. Until I discovered the liquid. I took all the other immune boosting things I could think of like zinc and quercetin and vitamin C, etc.
The biggest impact on my life was that I became disgusted with my Church because they went with the science and made us sit 6 feet apart and wouldn’t let us drink coffee together, etc. Also, I’m an avid Bridge player and was hired to go on a 48 day cruise to help with the games, starting March 13. Which coincided with the time when the bans went out on cruise ships. Then the local club where I played five days a week wouldn’t let anybody in who was not vaccinated. One man who was unvaccinated went to the club anyway, and then got Covid and had to tell them. They made a huge example out of him and banned him from the club forever. The ACBL would not allow anybody to play in tournaments unless they were vaccinated. So I lost three years of my social life and my Bridge life. But I did not bow to the vaccine.
And I’m very happy that I didn’t, especially when I see people around me getting strange forms of cancer and having strokes. I don’t know that they’re having these diseases because they got the vaccine, which I know they all did, or not but it’s very sad to see my friends and family suffer.
“Out of the 11 only four decided that they should follow the science. And they were deathly afraid of the rest of us.”
I think that might show even they somehow deep down, distrusted the vax to really work. Isn`t a vax supposed to protect the recipient?
Thoughtful read.. except which Russians you talking about? Todays or yesterdays?
I know many people that never got the jab yet stated they did… We (spouse, children) did not get the jab.. Wonder how many thought they were getting the jab and got saline instead.. Bet more than we think.. Think about production of 1 billion jabs around the world.. not likely.. Knew 1 that died shortly there after the jab and 3 still paying for their mistake.. these were/are people in my orbit not up the street, over the hill, or around the corner..
Did I mention the personal attacks and insults from my over educated neighbors..? Those are the ones I seldom speak to these days..
It’s a fair question, Sundance.
But what’s the difference between Fauci doing it and Trump doing it?
Trump invoked the Fifth 440+ times during that four-hour civil deposition by Letitia James’s office. He declined to answer questions about his business practices, stating he was targeted by a politically motivated investigation.
Didn’t Fauci essentially claim the same thing? Why is it okay for one and not the other?
The plandemic was to be a blessing in disguise for me personally so my anger is empathetic firstly with family members affected financially and medically, then with the millions of my countrymen robbed of life, health, time with family, social interactions, economic well-being and so much more, including that ever-disintegrating trust we’ve hung onto over the decades watching our government collapse into a thoroughly corrupt corporate oligarchy.
I do not fault President Trump for OWS, as permanent economic lockdown mapped out for Covid’s future mutations would have destroyed America and much of the world and killed millions upon millions through upheaval, anarchy, civil war, and international or even world war. I mean….that was the plan.
The Jab was the sacrament of liberal orthodoxy. We were required not only to get it, but to believe in it.
As the layers of deceit are peeled back, everything is galling. First, Anthony Fauci was paying researchers taxpayer money to invent a doomsday virus in a Chinese lab. When it escaped, we learned that all of our rights could be suspended, by a Declaration of Emergency by our President. So, we really didn’t have any rights.
Then we learned all the measures taken were either wrong or unnecessary, but we had to obey lest we lose our jobs, our relationships, our character. We were unable to ask questions, no informed consent was granted. Our concerns were met with silence.
Those who survived may have submitted to authority, but they cannot trust authority again.
I must confess I dread going to the doctor, these days. I don’t want to be told I need to take a dozen prescriptions. My prescription for good health is to grab a spade and dig in my garden.