2-J’s has passed.
Reverend Jesse Jackson, aged 84, died Tuesday morning according to his family:
“Our father was a servant leader — not only to our family, but to the oppressed, the voiceless, and the overlooked around the world,” the Jackson family said in a statement. “We shared him with the world, and in return, the world became part of our extended family. His unwavering belief in justice, equality, and love uplifted millions, and we ask you to honor his memory by continuing the fight for the values he lived by.” {link}
Jackson is survived by his wife, Jacqueline Jackson, whom he married in 1962, and six children. Jackson ran for president twice, both times as a Democrat, placing third for the party’s nomination in 1984 and second in 1988, marking the most successful presidential runs of any Black candidate prior to Barack Obama’s two decades later.
May have been a leader to family and others, BUT the man blackmailed (Coke, Toyota et als) $millions over his lifetime.
Calling a spade a spade.
MLK died on the balcony in Memphis
That Jackson was born on. . .
And
Obama
Isn’t
Black
Neither has helped the people they “champion”
These so-called ‘leaders’ always seem to benefit and enrich themselves. Stacy in Ga come to mind?
BLM founders?
Sharpton
And sending their kids to privileged private schools, while condemning all other minorities to horrible democrat schools!
obama is an AWFL in blackface and man clothes.
Exactly like Yasser Arafat.
My old roommate from college lives in Greenville SC. He and his wife used to deliver meals on wheels to jj’s mother many years ago. “Model” person, huh?
When the “reverend” tried to shakedown Anheuser Busch, Augie Busch refused to meet with him. He sent a lower level exec in his stead. Jackson felt slighted and led a failed boycott against A-B.
Apparently there were more beer drinkers fed up with Jackson’s antics than there were people supporting his efforts to strong arm the companies that he targeted.
Observation: perhaps this should mitigate the Dylan Mulvaney mistake.
And yet JJ ended up with an AB distributorship.
Jessie’s two sons were given a lucrative distributorship by Augie Bush. The area was Chicago. This was the payoff to the shakedown.
That was when the family still owned and ran it. A-B now has international owners (InBev in Belgium). The Mulvaney fiasco is all on them.
I pray for his soul. I am trying my best to behave like a Christian.
Christians don’t pray for the souls of the dead.
When you die it’s a done deal.
Catholics do…
The assertion that Christians don’t pray for the souls of the dead is factually incorrect for many Christian traditions, particularly Roman Catholicism – Catechism of the Catholic Church states that the Church can pray for the dead, especially those in purgatory, to help them attain final purification (CCC 1030–1032).
Eastern Orthodoxy, and some Anglican/Episcopalian communities. These traditions explicitly teach and practice praying for the deceased, especially for those believed to be in purgatory—a state of purification before entering heaven. 2 Timothy 1:16–18: Paul prays for Onesiphorus, who is believed to have died, asking that God grant him mercy “on that day.” This is interpreted as a prayer for the deceased.
Luke 16:19–31 (Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus): The rich man in torment is conscious and aware, suggesting souls remain active after death.
Hebrews 12:1–2: The “cloud of witnesses” implies that the faithful in heaven are aware and can be part of spiritual encouragement.
Many Protestant denominations (e.g., Evangelical, Reformed) argue (on which the claim is based) that prayer for the dead is unbiblical, citing:
Hebrews 9:27: “It is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment.”
Ecclesiastes 9:5–6: “The dead know nothing… they have no more share in anything that is done under the sun.”
Luke 23:43: Jesus tells the thief on the cross, “Today you will be with me in Paradise,” indicating immediate destination after death.
Hence, for many Protestant traditions, prayer for the dead is not practiced and is (considered) ineffective on the argument that judgment is final at death.
However, it is factually wrong to claim that all Christians do not pray for the souls of the dead.
Catholic and Orthodox Christians do pray for the dead – on the belief that such prayers are meaningful and scripturally supported through tradition and interpretation.
Thus, the assertion that “Christians don’t pray for the souls of the dead” is inaccurate when referring to the broader Christian tradition.
The Bible describes the final state of the dead as a conscious, intermediate existence until the resurrection, with final eternal destinies determined by faith in Christ.
Eternal torment is not supported by all Christian denominations.
Eternal Conscious Torment (ECT) is held by conservative Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox traditions, including Baptists, Evangelicals, Reformed, and Pentecostals.
They affirm unending, conscious punishment for the unrepentant (Matthew 25:46; Mark 9:48; Revelation 14:11).
Annihilationism (Conditional Immortality) is taught by Seventh-day Adventists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and some evangelical scholars.
They believe the wicked are ultimately destroyed, not tormented forever (John 3:16; Romans 6:23).
Universalism is embraced by liberal Protestants, some Orthodox theologians, and groups like the Unitarian Universalists.
They believe all will eventually be reconciled to God (1 Timothy 2:4; Colossians 1:20).
Purgatory is a Catholic and some Anglican/Orthodox doctrine, viewing post-death purification as temporary, not eternal torment.
In short: Views vary widely—eternal torment is traditional but not universal across Christianity.
Anglican foundational teaching.
The 39 Articles.
Article 22
The Romish Doctrine concerning Purgatory, Pardons, Worshipping and Adoration, as well of Images as of Relics, and also Invocation of Saints, is a fond thing, vainly invented, and grounded upon no warranty of Scripture, but rather repugnant to the Word of God. (my emphasis)
In response to “Christians don’t pray for the souls of the dead” according to examples given; all quoting the Bible,
Arguments..
Pray or don’t pray according to Denominations
Till today, it is fact that “”Views vary widely—eternal torment is traditional but not universal across Christianity.” The doctrine of eternal torment is increasingly challenged, with many evangelicals embracing conditionalism or universalism, and even traditionalists often downplay the “conscious torment” aspect in favor of a more metaphorical or relational understanding of separation from God.
Accordingly, in example given according to Anglican foundational teaching in The 39 Articles, Article 22, says ..
“The Romish Doctrine concerning Purgatory, Pardons, Worshipping and Adoration, as well of Images as of Relics, and also Invocation of Saints, is a fond thing, vainly invented, and grounded upon no warranty of Scripture.”
Again, “In short: Views vary widely—eternal torment is traditional but not universal across Christianity.”
“Where the worm dieth not.”
But we are much more than worms to God.
Correct. I just did a study on universal salvation and it makes sense on many levels, including Scripture.
AAHHHH proof they are not following what is in the Bible.
When Jesus took his last breath the need for a priest was over as he is for all the new priest the doorway to Heaven.
I pray that any Catholic who reads this will dust off that word of God and read to learn how they have been deceived by the Catholic Church. God Bless to you all.
As Jesus meant “Get thee behind me Satan also applies to those who would drag others down to Hell. Someone who advocates “dust off that word of God and read to learn how they have been deceived by the Catholic Church. Literally saying that the Bible was not inspired by God.
Jesus is the God of all.The tearing of the temple curtain at Jesus’ death symbolizes the removal of the barrier between God and humanity caused by sin. This 60-foot-tall, four-inch-thick veil separated the Holy of Holies—where God’s presence dwelled—from the rest of the temple, accessible only by the high priest once a year (Hebrews 9:7). Its tearing from top to bottom signifies a divine act, not human effort, showing that God Himself opened the way to His presence (Matthew 27:51).
Spiritually, this event marks:
Direct access to God for all people, not just priests, through Jesus’ sacrifice (Hebrews 10:19–20).
The end of the old covenant system of sacrifices and the inauguration of the new covenant in Christ.
Jesus as the true High Priest and the ultimate sacrifice, whose broken body provides eternal atonement.
The fulfillment of Christ’s role as the only way to the Father, inviting all to enter God’s presence with confidence. All are invited to enter.
Since His death, Jesus has been waiting for over a thousand years. Jesus is with us on earth.
Jesus waits for believers to come for spiritual communion. Even those who only comes once, at most twice in a whole year; and those who have not been back.
Jesus left Himself on Earth at the Last Supper through the institution of the Lord’s Supper (Communion), a sacred act symbolizing His body and blood offered for humanity’s salvation. This moment was not merely a meal but a profound spiritual act where Jesus made His sacrificial presence available to believers for generations.
What Jesus told His disciples to do:
“Take and eat the bread, saying: “This is My body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of Me.”
“Drink from the cup, saying: “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is poured out for you.”
Repeat this act as a memorial of His death and resurrection, ensuring His sacrifice remains central to Christian faith and practice.
This command, repeated by believers worldwide, is the means by which Christians spiritually commune with Christ, receive grace, and proclaim His death until He comes again.
Greek Orthodox do.
Do a study on universal salvation.
It’s quite ironic that Jackson died on the very anniversary of Rush’s passing.
Part of the “Justice Brothers” aka The Slogan Master.
Yes, but one will be going up and the other down. They will not be sharing space.
Rush, I mourned; doubt they met.
I can still hear “Buckley” saying his name! 😄
Every time I read his name, i hear it in Rush’s voice.
I noticed that too.
Til the day I die, I’ll miss Rush.
I wonder if JJ knows you can’t extort or race bait your way into heaven.
RIP. I pray he truly repented and pleased God.
Amen. Same for us all. And those who have gone before us. RIP to all.
Grandma’s rule.
Yeah, the best I could come up with was; “So long”.
ditto on grandma’s rule.
Race Pimp.
Grifting, self-agrandizing, arrogant, corrupt, race-baiting, opportunistic, immoral , disingenuous liar that never missed a chance to get camera time. Pretty sure I’m not gonna miss him.
Gonna need a larger headstone to fir all his “accomplishments “
Speaking of tombstones, Christ had a scathing comment, which seems relevant.
Matthew 27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
That joke about the 2 guys at Rockefellers funeral..#1..’how much did he leave?’..#2…’All of it’…..
Wait – who are you talking about?
Initials…BO
Save that eulogy, sodaredneck, you can use it again for Al Sharpton. 😄
Transformed MLK’s work into dirty politics and sadly Cleburn and Obama and Abrams followed his lead and they make Jackson look benevolent in comparison. Jackson thought he was tha one .
You left out John (Did I ever tell you I was in Selma?) Lewis.
In another life, when I was fervently a lib, I was active in The Atlanta Project.
Linked up with Jimmy Carter, portrayed as solving all of Atlanta’s social ills
before the Olympics.
Every. Single. Old timer civil rights individual that was linked to that
particular fiasco was, basically, a white collar criminal. The amount of funds
that were laying around loose that walked was mind numbing. Most notably,
anything associated with the Southern Christian Leadership Conference.
One of Joseph Lowrey’s underlings was active in our area. A big kumbaya
meeting at Piedmont Park that had 18 + of the Atlanta Project clusters participate
was held. Pregnancy awareness, proper nuitrition, HIV prevention, drug awareness…
All desirable goals. I lived next door to it, and wished an exit for the kids in my area.
I didn’t go to that meeting. Said underling had a habit of talking the birds out of
the trees, and then dropping the ball at crunch time. Didn’t hear anything about
said person for two months. Asked one of the better, honest individual who was
involved in the Atlanta Project about him.
“Didn’t you know? He took the money and ran?”
“The money” was 15,000 that was to be used for the stated goals.
Anyway: Jesse Jackson . Whenever any of my coworkers would bring either
Jesse, Al, or John Lewis up , I always had a question I asked them. Uniformly,
none of them had an answer to said question.
“Who have you ever met or talked to, or read about that was helped in any
way, shape, or form by Jesse or Al?”
After Barry he and Al Sharpton did more damage to race relations than any 3 people. Booker T Washington warned us about the “race hustler” see Jesse “the Slogan Master” Jackson.
“There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.” Booker T Washington
His meeting with the Good Lord will be interesting, I believe.
Well said by you and Booker T. Washington.
St Peter ain’t opening the gates for this turd
Jesse moves his grift to Hell.
Yet again I’m grateful that at the end there’s only One Judge. May God have mercy on both JJ and on me when my time is ended.
I’m reminded of what may or may not be an apocryphal story about Bette Davis and Joan Crawford upon Crawford’s death. When Davis was informed of her former rival’s passing, she supposedly quipped: “We don’t speak ill of the dead, only good. Joan Crawford has died. Good.”
Like any other human those that were close to him and loved him I offer condolences. For many of us he used race as a divisive issue from which he profited and set back race relations..
And as I remember, fathered an out-of-wedlock child with an employee of his Operation PUSH. He would have been cashiered in today’s “MeToo” movement.
Hope he likes it hot.
Finally something to celebrate. As a Chicagoan this icehole has wreaked more havoc on more people than u can imagine. Did zero
Well, there was this…
He did negotiate some sort of deal to keep St. James Hospital open for a a few years before it was ultimately sold sold and torn down. Those people in Chicago Heights, a very poor demographic, needed that hospital!
Many Chicago safety net hospitals have closed to the take overs by the Corporate Medical Complex. Guess who hurts? The truly poor and needy.
A few years ago, the CEO of St. Joe’s in Joliet, was whining they were 9 million over budget due to the (un)Affordable Care Act…
Guess what that man’s salary was? Nine million dollars.
Back in 1971 I was a brand new teacher in California. During our teacher meetings time just prior to the opening of the school year, Jesse Jackson was our featured speaker. He spoke of the need for black and white students to achieve success through hard work. Too bad he didn’t stick to that theme.
Spit
I will say nothing.
R.I.P.
I think it may be best if I just circle on back to the post about Mr. Duvall.
Interesting how Mr. Duvall was heralded as a fine actor that brought life to his roles and left us a legacy of roles that will be admired for generations to come. Mr. Jackson on the other hand left a legacy of dishonest race hustling and soft grifting.
Two well known Men, One revered and one not many care about. Seems like there is a lesson in how to live to study. Rest In Peace and dignity Mr. Duvall and thank you for sharing your time on Earth with us.
And the one revered wasn’t the reverend.
Our daughter loved Shelly Duvall’s children Bedtime stories……jeez – I didn’t hear she passed away in 2024. Robert – prayers for both of you your daughter and your families…
double jeez….no relation….still same prayers for each…..can’t blame it on AI….
Our predestined appointment
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.”
2 Corinthians 5:10
Yep
Barry wasn’t black. He was bi-racial. Jackson was pure bum.
I voted for Jackson in the primary-long before “Operation Chaos.”
I like how he summarized Bill Clinton; nothing there but appetite
Nothing nice to say, so nothing said.
Donald Trump gave Rev Jackson free office space at Trump Tower to run his Rainbow Coalition Presidential campaign in the late 1970’s. Obama shunned Jackson – wouldn’t even invite him to the inauguration.
And Jackson said some very, very derogatory things about Hussein. I don’t recall just what it was, but it was a nasty racial remark.
Yet wasn’t Jackson up front in the crowd at the speech Obama made at the park right after being elected?
Prayers for his family, but I have nothing nice to say for the man.
The godfather of DEI.
I have my discernment about the man. God will have His judgment.
It is hard to reconcile ” justice, equality, and love” with someone known to so many as a divider, race baiter, and antisemite. Better descriptors might include polarizing, provocateur, and paradoxical.
He will be remembered as writing the script for the modern democrat party.
His words were the opposite of truth.
Jackson was more concerned with his seat at the table of the Democrats than moving forward on race relations. He knew DJT well prior to Trump’s presidential run
Jackson was aware of Trump’s colorblindness when it came to hiring talent for his businesses. When Jackson couldn’t find space on Wall Street for his political activities, he turned to Trump for help. Trump not only found space for him, DJT gave it to him.
But, when Trump ran for president, Jackson couldn’t find it in his heart to supports him. Instead, he half-heartedly played his role as a race hustler to protect his place among the Democratic Party’s power brokers.
Having been pulled by competing loyalties during my business career I know how difficult these decisions can be. It is not my place to judge him. My intention is to relay where his loyalty resided.
Those who loved him shall miss him.
Those who love sin miss it too.
Will the golden casket with the slot now be circulated ?
Soon Al Sharpton and Benjamin Crump and probably Bondi will be praising JJ
” Some will take the easy way out”
While I mourn for his family’s loss, Jackson and a few other race-baiters (e.g. Al Sharpton) are responsible for destroying the racial reconciliation begun in the 70’s, building careers and achieving notoriety with racial division.
Bye….
Race baiters don’t get any more than that…..
Rot…
Hey guys, having lived in northern IL for over 40 years….., I get it and am no different….but let’s remember, and its hard, we will all stand before our Maker, and be given the task of our life review and be subject to the Book of Life. Lets all try to find something good to do…
Tomorrow is Ash Wednesday…
Let’s take the log out of our eyes…and pray and pray that we will all be worthy of the promises of Christ.
I was taught not to say anything if you can’t say something nice.
So you believe that hiding the truth is sacred??? Can you give a Biblical reference, or is it just hearsay?
If there is a liar, or murderer, or thief, we should not warn others, and just let them become victims?
There are sins of co-omission, and sins of omission. Refusing to speak the truth is a sin of omission.
Don’t mean to be disrespectful, maybe, but I’ve seen where is corrupt son is trying to run for some type of position again.
He will go down as the greatest shakedown artist in US history. Al Sharpton is his pupil.
The late Phil Valentine, a Nashville radio host, did some marvelous parodies of Jackson. https://archive.org/details/soundcloud-660327107
The original grifter…met him once, not impressed with his blowing into the small regional airport in ‘his’ Citation dressed in Armani with security entourage in tow. Total empty suit.
As brother texted, “Let the canonization begin…”.
The MSM…including Fox News…will use this as yet another BREAKING NEWS!!! SAVANNAH GUTHRIE’s mom’ news leader…with all manner of Walmart purchase history references…to obscure the fraud and graft by politicians and congress and the fact the Clintons are nowhere to be found, especially not in front of a hearing.
Weirdly, same day as Rush sadly left us.
😷
So I’ll say nada …
Robert Duvall, Jesse Jackson…who will be number 3?
He wasn’t as sleazy as Al Sharpton.
That’s the best I can do.
Judgement is God’s job… and I see the score
Jesse Jackson vehemently opposed abortion. Then he didn’t.
“Theee ahhhh Reverend Jacksonnnn”. El Rushbo.
Positive: His eloquent rendition of “Green Eggs and Ham”.
Negative: The Reverend took the protection racket business model to a national level with the Rainbow Coalition.
A perfect example of “Addition by Subtraction”.
Race baiting Jew hater (“Hymies”) that couldn’t wait to get out of “Hymietown” town.
Jackson has passed away but his grift will live on.