Abandoned by his father to a troubled single mother; eventually raised by grandparents. He is then recruited from an Ivy league law school by shadow figures, a specific billionaire and a network of interests. He changes his name, writes a book about his life story, and with the support of the aforementioned – who eventually pays for a strategic campaign, becomes a Senator for 2 years before being quickly elevated into position in the White House.
Many people reading that paragraph are familiar with the life story of Barack Hussien Obama. However, that paragraph is not describing Obama, that paragraph describes James Donald Bowman, aka J.D. Vance.
On one side, we have an emotionally constructed political figure for the left. On the other side, we see an emotionally constructed political figure for the right. Each person, each emotional narrative, carrying the specific nuances to appeal to their audience; both follow the same playbook.
J.D. Vance was born James Donald Bowman in Middletown, Ohio (August 2, 1984). He then changed his name to James David Bowman. He then changed his name to James David Hamel. Eventually, in 2014, notably after Yale Law School (class of 2013, and after marrying his wife Usha, now age 30, he changed his name to write a book.
It was 2014, that’s when J.D. Vance was born.
Vance’s book, Hillbilly Elegy was published by Rupert Murdoch’s publishing house, Harper Collins in 2016. The book was made into a Netflix movie, [Reed Hastings] created by Imagine Entertainment and directed by Ron Howard (2020).
However, the interesting background on J.D. Vance goes back to Yale, and the Obamaesque tap on the shoulder that comes from a billionaire most are familiar with, Peter Thiel (PayPal and Palantir).
Thiel first recruited Vance into his circle while Vance was still a student at Yale Law School. Shortly thereafter, Vance joined Thiel’s investment firm Mithril Capital, where he worked for two years before joining Revolution Ventures. Vance played a major role in Revolution’s “Rise of the Rest” seed fund whose major investors included Amazon’s Jeff Bezos. {Citation}
J.D. Vance then launched his own venture capital firm Narya Capital in 2020, using startup money from both Peter Thiel and former Google CEO Eric Schmidt.
From this timeline, we can see how J.D. Vance went from no money (student loans) in 2013, to big money in 2020. Everything came via Peter Thiel and Eric Schmidt, but mostly Thiel.
To understand J.D. Vance as an Ohio Senator, we visit the inflection points in 2013 and the subsequent relationship with billionaire Peter Thiel (Palantir Technologies). The timeline from 2013 to now becomes important.
Billionaires Eric Schmidt and Peter Thiel are key members of the steering committee of the controversial, closed-door, and overtly globalist Bilderberg conference. Newsweek once called Schmidt and Thiel the two most influential figures at Bilderberg.
Peter Thiel’s company, Palantir Tech, is the driving force of a global surveillance system using artificial intelligence (AI).
Palantir has massive contract interests in U.S. military and intelligence communities.
Keep in mind, Palantir is the current company creating the tech mechanisms for the U.S. government to conduct foreign and domestic surveillance.
The actual technology needed by the Deep State, to advance their interests, is provided by Peter Thiel. {Citation}
According to the popular narrative, J.D. Vance opposes the Intelligence Community deep surveillance state, while simultaneously being the political front for the interests of Peter Thiel and Palantir Technology. This doesn’t reconcile.
Peter Thiel was the money and network behind the 2022 Ohio Senate race between J.D. Vance and Tim Ryan.
It was Peter Thiel who took J.D. Vance to meet President Trump in Mar-a-Lago to get the needed endorsement to launch Vance into the U.S. Senate. Without Peter Thiel there is no Senator J.D. Vance.
It is also important to remember that prior to 2018, prior to Peter Thiel becoming aligned with the FBI as a confidential human source, and prior to Vance needing the Trump endorsement, J.D. Vance was a staunch never-Trumper.
J.D. Vance went from calling President Trump “a literal Hitler,” to appreciating Trump’s incredible leadership – a remarkable shift in opinion. To his strategic credit, Peter Thiel was successful in gaining both the Trump endorsement and the winning outcome of the 2022 Ohio Senate race. That success was now Senator J.D. Vance.
Within the Thiel network, you will note the aligned interests of another key financial friend and big federal contractor, Elon Musk. Together, Elon Musk and Peter Thiel form the core of a very wealthy group of modern tech political influence agents, including another Yale Law School graduate and J.D. Vance supporter, Vivek Ramaswamy.
J.D. Vance named one of his three children Vivek. Suffice to say, they are close.
What you have read so far is the background of how a billionaire, Peter Thiel, deeply enmeshed in the surveillance state, creates the process for the advancement of his interests. A few dozen millions are a worthy investment if the investment creates and supports the objectives of the billionaire (Palantir Technology).
As an outcome of an influence network in 2006, Senator Barack Obama was successfully installed. As an outcome of an influence network in 2022, Senator J.D. Vance was successfully installed.
Both Barry Sotero (Obama) and James Bowman (Vance) are mirror images of each other; the playbooks used to create both are identical. One went through the path of community activism, the other through the military. Both paths have a target audience.
We have long discussed the UniParty operation in Washington DC. What was once a radical concept and controversial, is now accepted as reality.
We have also outlined the how the Fourth Branch of Government was created under Obama. What was once conspiracy theory is now accepted as the truth.
Once we accept how both wings of the UniParty operate, we then see how the system works. The Obama network ultimately led to the modern IC surveillance state. The Vance network now appears to be positioned to benefit from it.
Unfortunately, much like an abuser toward the abused, our ideological enemy uses our virtues of love and trust as weapons. We are in an abusive relationship with government.
♦ STRATEGIC OPTIMISM – In everything that happens, the geopolitical power players -including the Intelligence Community- have what are called “strategic interests.” Meaning, they plan out their future position based on current events (data), pathways and predictions.
Some of these power structures are, putting it mildly, not good. In fact, they are eroding liberty, freedom and making us serfs, while creating a system of political elites. We feel it daily.
In order to best weaken, or make them more vulnerable, the best strategy is to put them into a position where they cannot plan for the future because they cannot predict the waypoints in their path.
Having a known 2028 U.S. presidential nominee gives them the ability to plan for it. They are able to make moves to get beyond the 2024 to 2028 challenges they face; they look toward who they will be faced with as an opponent in ’28.
From that position, they conduct enemy operations against Trump’s strategy…. they essentially plan to outlast him, ignore him, put on a mask when they talk to him, etc.
President Trump, making it known who will be the ’28 nominee, gives his opposition power. Essentially making Trump’s position less strong.
Had Trump selected a “one-term” running mate (I don’t care who it would have been), the opposition would not know what to expect in 2028. They would be forced to focus every day on what Trump is doing. The opposition cannot look forward (proactive) beyond Trump. They are forced to react. They are kept vulnerable.
Do you want your enemies planning, or do you want them reacting to the unknown variables?
Do you want them focused on your attack, or do you want them brushing you off as irrelevant in the longer term?
Do you want them on their heels each day/week as they try to figure out what you are doing…. or do you want them to know the destination ahead, regardless of the daily or weekly policy moves?
By selecting a VP nominee that will be the 2028 presidential nominee (what 90% of short-sighted people wanted), Trump would give greater power to the ideological enemy.
For the next 3.5 years, to achieve the maximum benefit from President Trump, the deep state at home and geopolitical enemy abroad must not know what they will face in the future.
From that position of potential vulnerability, they are forced to focus on daily events and counterstrategies, while unable -by design- to compromise the future opponent.
I never resign Trump to a failed position, as long as there is a way to turn a necessary decision into a winning and more powerful position.
The problem of Peter Thiel, his network, and the potential problem J.D. Vance represents can be dealt with.
President Donald J. Trump makes it very well known, and constantly reminds people for 3 years, that if J.D. Vance sucks, flinches, is inept or doesn’t follow orders, then J.D. Vance doesn’t get the 2028 endorsement.
Thankfully, we see indications of this beginning with President Trump’s acceptance speech at the RNC Convention and continuing throughout today – including during an interview this week on Fox and Friends, where Trump noted Marco Rubio would be a good option for 2028.
For Trump supporters and all supporters of the goal to deconstruct the worst and most toxic elements of the Deep State, we should support a tenuous 2028 endorsement message. After all, we are expecting Vice President J.D. Vance to uphold actionable policies against the interests of his benefactors.
Those benefactors, and the aligned Vance influence network, include Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Bill Ackman, David Sacks, Chamath Palihapitiya, Jacob Helberg, Vivek Ramaswamy and of course, many more.
I don’t care about anything that happened prior to the 2013 inflection point, the tap on the shoulder at Yale.
James Donald Bowman, aka J.D. Vance’s background construct, as lived or as sold, is irrelevant to me. We do not have the time to be emotionally attached to any individual. We need actionable results.
We are not going to be battered conservatives, pushed yet again into the position of Charlie Brown to Lucy’s deep state, ‘trust the plan‘ football. The trust account of the American electorate is bankrupt. Corruption is running amok.
The threat to J.D. Vance’s political career must be actual, loud and repeated often to keep the toxic IC and domestic Silo operators guessing. While simultaneously, every righteous attack takes down a small IC silo segment like a bite out of an elephant.
We also accept that this rather deliberate approach is likely to make Peter Thiel, J.D. Vance and the entire Thiel/Musk network quite unhappy.
♦ SURVEILLANCE STATE – The research article positions the relationship between J.D. Vance and Peter Thiel as a serious challenge – here’s why.
Since his original endorsement of Donald Trump in 2016 (a good thing), billionaire tech executive Peter Thiel has expanded his company, Palantir Technology, to be the leading edge of an AI enhanced data-processing system.
The Palantir tech is designed to use artificial intelligence (AI) to crawl through massive sets of surveillance data, phone data, facial recognition data, metadata (writ large) etc.
In essence, Palantir Tech is receiving government contracts (Defense and Intel) to use the Palantir AI tools to analyze/filter a massive amount of electronic data, and take action based on results from the data, or what might be called SIGNIT (Signals Intelligence). There are billions at stake in this relationship.
In short, Thiel has a vested financial interest in providing AI surveillance filtration tools to the U.S. government.
Ok fine. That’s just a simple acceptance of what Thiel’s company does now. And Thiel recruited J.D. Vance, back in 2012/2013 while at Yale law school, and personally financed JD’s entry into the world of politics in 2020/2021.
Thiel leveraged his relationship with Donald Trump to get J.D. Vance the Ohio primary endorsement in 2022, and the rest is history. Fair enough. Nothing disputed.
Here’s where things get sticky….
Thiel’s company, Palantir Tech, provides the AI metadata analytic tools used by the U.S. government in their national security efforts. The government access to that metadata comes, in part, as an outcome of the legislative FISA authorization.
As a consequence, eliminating, say… FISA(702) surveillance processes, is against the financial interests of Peter Thiel. If the U.S. government cannot access the dataset, the U.S. govt doesn’t need Palantir’s AI filtration tech. That’s just the nature of the relationship.
Again, this is just a cold, factual acceptance of the situation.
Would J.D. Vance support the elimination of FISA(702), FISA Courts, or the National Security Division of the DOJ (something that forms the foundation of removing the worst elements of the Deep State), knowing that action would be adverse to the interests of his benefactor and mentor, Peter Thiel?
Again, just a question. Perhaps he would, perhaps not; however, a review of history shows the odds are not in our favor.
I mean, there is a reason why Thiel recruited, financed, supported and guided Vance to the position he is now in, correct?
Elon Musk’s entire business model, sans X (maybe) is contingent upon government contracts and policy.
Regardless of his altruistic disposition, or lack thereof, Musk’s enterprises, Tesla and Space-X, do not exist without direct government funding or indirect govt support via policy.
Peter Thiel is essentially in the same position with Palantir Tech, unless the U.S. Government gave him permission to sell his services to foreign adversaries. Not likely.
Many are looking at J.D. Vance as the guy, maybe one of the ‘guys’, who can finally confront the worst elements of the Deep State. However, the worst elements of the Deep State, the surveillance and control silos, are in a synergistic relationship with Vance’s benefactors.
Will Vance willingly tear apart the surveillance state that will create a negative financial outcome for those who put him into office? My note of caution is, ‘Don’t get your hopes up.’
I mean, seriously think about it. Musk puts up USG satellites that monitor stuff. The low-earth-orbit monitoring results (data signals) are returned to the USG. The data signals are then analyzed by AI tech created by Thiel.
Another way to look at it: Elon Musk puts the camera on your face; Peter Thiel tells the govt where you went.
♦ BIG PICTURE – Are the newest group of billionaire Silicon Valley tech leaders currently supporting MAGA Trump/Vance, really a modern assembly of the Green Dragon rebels in Boston, plotting the next Tea Party rebellion? Or are they simply just the other side of a new modern Technocratic control system, aligned with and dependent on government?
The Obama-era ‘Technocracy‘ was based on public-private partnerships with social media. This was the origin of the surveillance state that now scours, controls, filters, censors and ultimately monetizes your social media data profile. The operational and business model is cemented into the process now. Everyone accepts it. Terms and conditions apply, and if you don’t agree, you can’t use.
Is the pending Trump-era ‘Technocracy‘ a rebrand, pushing social media off to the side (that part is done) and bringing data processing control agents, artificial intelligence software designers, big money venture capitalists, banks and those who are creating digital id systems? Do Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Bill Ackman, David Sacks, Chamath Palihapitiya, Jacob Helberg and Vivek Ramaswamy, now occupy the empty chairs around the table of Technocracy?
Was the 5/10-year business model, in the mind of tech billionaire Peter Thiel, what led him to recruit J.D. Vance in 20? Was it a financial decision blended with ideology to guide, finance and support J.D .Vance all the way to 2022 and 2024? Was J.D. Vance an investment?
Truly, I suspect our gut knows the answer.
That’s why my approach is to say, “Here’s the factual data – trust your instincts.”
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Around this time someone will snark, saying my assembling this perspective indicates President Trump is an idiot, or something.
NO! President Trump is not stupid, or naïve!
CTH has painstakingly outlined how the silo process within the Deep State works. You have more information about that process. You have more knowledge about that process.
All of us, courtesy of dozens of brilliant researchers here and in lots of other places on the internet, have a far more comprehensive understanding of how the systems within the D.C. administrative state work than any subset of professional politicians or their staff.
Are you stupid or naïve? No. None of us are.
However, many of us are sick and tired of having the virtue of our patriotism weaponized against us. For reference, see DHS, ODNI, CISA, TSA, The Patriot Act, or any other of the myriads of crisis-created legislative solutions, later turned into tools by bad actors that inevitably diminish freedom.
I was sitting at dinner with a good person, who happened to be the head, the tipy-top, of one of the most connected IC silos in Washington DC, and that person laughed recalling situations where they walked into their office many days and frustratingly shouted at their staff, “Who the f**k is leaking information to this guy,” meaning me. No one was leaking anything, and the entire organization was just as surprised as the leader of it.
My point is that many ordinary Americans know far more about the interconnectedness of DC silo operations, than the people within the individual silos can fathom. They are stuck inside a created system of compartmentalization; we are not.
The overwhelming odds are that you know more than your federal representative. That fact doesn’t make you smarter than President Donald J. Trump, it just means you have a different set of researched datapoints that create a different understanding.
Additionally, President Trump doesn’t “vet” anyone; someone else does the “vetting” for him. That vetting helps him to make decisions, it doesn’t exclusively determine the final decision.
No one is stupid in this discussion. No one knows all the information. The fact-finding is a process of information assembly, that permits guidance to decision making. That’s it.
The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) might have been a good decision at the time, until it starts getting weaponized later on.
Given the nature of the political landscape, Senator J.D. Vance was a good selection for Veep. A candidate for the office of the vice presidency that positioned President Trump, and the people around him, to be able to start putting countermeasures into place to stop government weaponization, a seemingly out of control surveillance state.
Senator J.D. Vance helped to unite the various Republican clans.
Perhaps more valuable, his selection reduced the possibility of the Silicon Valley Technocrats working against OUR interests – as we look to control THEIR influence.
More importantly, Senator J.D. Vance made winning in November of 2024 slightly more likely. That was the key value in his personage.
Perhaps Vance is a technocratic tool; perhaps he’s a MAGA ally; who really knows?
The bottom line is we must understand the context of everything that comes with Vance, nothing more.
Trust God, and for everyone else – watch them like a hawk, while you live your best life.
We won in November. We have an opportunity to start putting countermeasures and guardrails into place that will seemingly impede the efforts of the bad operators within each IC silo. Simultaneously, we need to identify who each bad actor is. We can see DNI Tulsi Gabbard working earnestly on this effort.
This larger mission is the reversal of weaponization, and a restoration of representation that believes in freedom. I am both optimistic and clear-eyed about the nature of the challenges we face.
“Pray for a good winter, but plant lots of cabbages.”
Sorry, I won’t go in on this doom and gloom. What I have seen from Vance, I like a lot. I have changed politically in the last 17 years.
I said it last fall, and I say it again… I support both Tulsi and JD, and will continue.
The times they are a changing.
I hope JD and Tulsi are the team for 2028. Two intelligent and well speaking people. They will put whoever the left anoints to shame.
Agreed! I’m fine with both of them. No more wars.
“Pray for a good winter, but plant lots of cabbages.”
I’m not sure about cabbage…
But lettuce pray 🙂
Lettuce alone, with no dressing.
Aka honeymoon salad.
Thyme will tell.
I understand that – i feel the same – We also need to keep our eyes open !
Despite feel-good impressions, a lot of bad things have happened when politicians have made the people feel good, as animals being fed and pampered until they are owned. It wouldn’t be the first time that people are lulled by hearing, and believing, exactly what they like to hear, and then they are betrayed, when it is too late to change the outcome. So, determination to stand with the speaker of pleasant words bypasses tragedy only when that speaker is being honest. If one is able to be sure that the happy things he has heard are honest words, then may be he know things that the rest of us do not. Congratulations on that knowledge, then, assuming that the confidence that you claim comes not just from feeling optimistic.
If jd is head of the senate why doesn’t he shut it down and let Donald have his nominee s??
He’s only a tie breaker.
“Sorry, I won’t go in on this doom and gloom”
Because your in-depth political analysis blog is sooooo much better than Sundance’s, eh?
We all have minds of our own and different opinions. Remember, that 3/4 of a loaf is better than Gavin Newsom!
We have influencers on here who are threatened by this article.
Notice they post in clumps trying to get us to think there are many like them.
Carefully plotted out by Vance’s masters.
The vociferous defense by many to the other side of the BHO coin leads me to believe that Sundance, once again is directly over the target.
AI surveillance state coming.
Sunsance thank you for accelerating my critical political arena thinking! I hope and pray Trump reads TCT daily before he sleeps.
I’d chew my right arm off before I voted for Tulsi Gabbard for anything.
I’d chew them both off before I voted for her Democrat opponent.
https://www.facebook.com/RepTulsiGabbard/posts/as-the-debate-over-guns-and-our-constitutionally-guaranteed-second-amendment-rig/1713176085435565/
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As the debate over guns and our constitutionally-guaranteed Second Amendment rights continues, what is often overlooked are common sense actions that many advocates on both sides of this issue agree on. There are practical steps that both the public and gun owners recognize as necessary to keep firearms out of the hands of those who should not own or use them. Tulsi is working to increase school security, shore up and reform our mental healthcare system, close the gun show and online loopholes, ban military-style assault weapons and bump stocks, and require background checks on anyone seeking to purchase a gun.
She has cosponsored legislation like the Gun Show Loophole Closing Act, the Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Act, the Keeping Guns from High Risk Individuals Act, the Assault Weapons Ban, the Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act, the Domestic Violence Loophole Closure Act, the Automatic Gunfire Prevention Act, the Gun Violence Research Act, and more.
Write YOUR quotes from 7 years ago
Right there in the first two lines of my post.
Now your turn Lawrence, show where she has reversed any of her previous anti 2nd amendment positions. And although talk is cheap, I’ll even accept verbal rescissions, paltry as they may be.
There are people working today (as in the past) for the appearance and reign in the world of the Anti-Christ.
You don’t hardly post at all, Sepp, but when you do … KABOOM! “The whole world lies in the power of the wicked one” … “I saw Satan fall like lightening from the sky”
We just had four years of it!
right on cue – Peter Thile hosts an upcoming 5-part symposium on the AntiChrist. Not even joking.
Didn’t believe you but
It’s a thing
https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000010244372/peter-thiel-and-the-antichrist.html
Very good, thank you
Skipped over his time as a Marine. Semper Fi can be influential. Thiel has no dynasty. Musk does. The oval office allows an individual to consider who they are beholden to. Not ready to write Vance off. Rubio seems to be red-pilled. If true He is just as viable for 28. Eight years of MAGA Marco followed by 8 years of MAGA JD ought to get me to my dirt nap. I could live with that.
I keep saying I am not sold on Vance. His background is shady with the name changes. I tried to read his book. I read four chapters and couldn’t go any further. It was not that good. He came out of nowhere like Vivek. I believe Trump knows all of this. As for Thiel and the others, it is keep your enemies closer.
Not shady if you understand what it’s like to have a mother going from man to man, no real solid father, and the desperate need for one. Sad, but not shady.
NOT shady if you understand the history of the Bowmans in Tennessee Kentucky.
This from a poster at NY other net home.
The Bowman family have an almost mystical tie to earliest Kentucky settlement as Boone does. His roots are bonafide.
And the fact his momma got herself caught up in dope is a perfectly understandable reason for his name changes to prevent gang blowback during high school. Or dealers preying on him.
His grandmother kept weapons at hand in every room, including her kitchen. She had reason to fear the crowd her daughter ran with awhile.
His granny is a savvy woman and knew her grandson’s paternal ancestry, not her line so much, was the key to his future. He secured benefactors early on. If he is even half aware of his Ancestry (and I think he is fully up to speed by now) JD has big boots to fill and won’t let Kentucky down. John Wayland’s superb book is free online:
https://archive.org/services/img/bowmanspioneerin00wayl
The Bowmans, a pioneering family in Virginia, Kentucky and the Northwest Territory / by John W. Wayland. : Wayland, John Walter, 1872-1962. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archivearchive.org
The “Four Centaurs of Cedar Creek”, have heard the brothers referred to as the Four Horsemen of the Kentucky Blue Grass also.
Warrior bloodline. For now I will wait and see how he matures into his middle years. He may be reserved for 2032 or beyond.
Honestly wish he had kept Bowman surname. He may wish he had also.
But that gets into his father/son dynamic. Bowmans and Vance are allied families thru intermarriages so for those who know, its all the same clan. God Bless Granny that knew her state history and saved the boy.
Vance came with a dowry. That’s why he’s on the ticket.
The next color revolution will be to install our AI / surveillance state overlords. You can see it coming at their airport security line.
Fortunately, “AI” is a smoke and mirrors investment scam. It doesn’t work the way we are being led to believe it does and never will. The bubble will pop soon, and then something else (a new fear) will take its place. Think about how this new fear got unlocked at exactly the same time whole covid nonsense was wrapping up.
Sort of like AI is the next Green New Deal…
Excellent point And even global warming insanity . We hear less and less about it
Every few years some new manufactured hysteria
I just love to visit my friend’s farm to hear the cows fart and burp. I wish I could see the methane coming out of a cow’s hiney and mouth. Yes, I am weird but not as weird as the people who believe in man-made climate change.
It was somewhat shocking to go through airport security/id inspection and have to look into the iPad camera, prior to being permitted to the next point of luggage screening.
So much for my right to privacy.
You don’t have to let them take that photo. I think it was someone on here who told me that several months ago. The last time I flew was in May and I just told them I didn’t want a picture. Didn’t make a lot of difference as far as my privacy. They already have lots of photos along with my real ID and TSA Precheck pass.
But it was a little satisfying to see the look on their faces when I refused. Not angry or upset, just kind of like a “oh, another one of those people“.
The Mrs. and I are of “those people” too!
The poor bastard(s) combing through our online, financial, and political activities – searching for “intelligence”, would remind you of the skeleton sitting at a computer. With a pencil in their eyeball socket.😂
Yes! They have all of it.
I did not know about the name changes. I can understand there may be situations where it is warranted. But multiple times? Something is fundamentally lacking. Just ask John “Cougar” Mellancamp.
it can make sense……..
He was born James Donald Bowman in Middletown, Ohio, on Aug. 2, 1984, his middle and last names the same as his biological father, Donald Bowman. His parents split up “around the time I started walking,” he writes. When he was about 6, his mother, Beverly, married for the third time. He was adopted by his new stepfather, Robert Hamel, and his mother renamed him James David Hamel.
When his mother erased Donald Bowman from his and her lives, the adoption process also erased the name James Donald Bowman from the public record. The only birth certificate for Vance on file at Ohio’s vital statistics office reads James David Hamel, according to information provided by the state.
Beverly kept the boy’s initials the same, since he went universally by J.D., Vance explains in the book. He didn’t buy his mother’s story that he was named for his uncle David, though. “Any old D name would have done, so long as it wasn’t Donald” (Name of bio Dad)
Vance spent more than two decades as James David “J.D.” Hamel. It’s the name by which he graduated from Middletown High School, served in Iraq as a U.S. Marine (officially, Cpl. James D. Hamel), earned a political science degree at The Ohio State University and blogged his ruminations as a 26-year-old student at Yale Law School. Those facts are borne out in documentation provided by those entities upon request, or otherwise publicly available, and were confirmed by campaign spokesperson Taylor Van Kirk.
But the situation gnawed at him, particularly after his mother and adoptive father divorced.
“I shared a name with no one I really cared about (which bothered me already), and with Bob gone, explaining why my name was J.D. Hamel would require a few additional awkward moments,” he writes in “Hillbilly Elegy.” “Yeah, my legal father’s last name is Hamel. You haven’t met him because I don’t see him. No, I don’t know why I don’t see him. Of all the things that I hated about my childhood, nothing compared to the revolving door of father figures.”
So he decided to change his name again, to Vance — the last name of his beloved Mamaw, the grandmother who raised him.
It didn’t happen on his wedding day in 2014, as the book implies, but in April 2013, as he was about to graduate from Yale, Van Kirk said. It felt right to take the name of the woman who raised him before dying in 2005, as he was putting the struggles of his early life behind him and launching into this new phase.
I can understand it, I don’t hold it against him.
His mother was out there remarrying over and over again, I’m sure she was doing the best she could.
She’s changing her child’s name to reflect the current situation with the idea of creating a new family unit- hoping it’s forever..
Kids have no choice in all of this.
As you get older, you don’t even know who you are, some people have no connection at all to these names their parents give them- you just want a name that means something to YOU now that you can finally control your own life.
I have a good friend that got married, he took her name.
He had the name of a step father that meant nothing at all to him, they divorced, he couldn’t stand the man and there he is stuck with this name- he didn’t want it, he certainly didn’t want his new wife and family to have this name he didn’t like or want so he took her name.
I think this all goes on a lot more than people think with divorces and remarriages being so common.
I give her credit for marrying instead of just shacking up. At least she tried.
Agree.
JD’s name changes don’t bother me at all. 2 of my close friends and 2 of my close family members have changed their names — to drastically different names — with 3 changing them for no other reason than they didn’t like any part of their given name.
What I’d like to know is how JD got the money to go to Yale.
He did well in the Marines. Did he use the G.I. Bill to go to Yale? Wouldn’t that be a big stretch financially?
Were “they” courting him while he was still in the Marine Corps and while he was somewhat of a spokes person for the Marine Corps? Apparently he met a lot of influencial people towards the end of his time in service, and felt he’d done an excellent job speaking publicly with confidence, so maybe someone took notice then and decided to target him.
I have no clue, just questions I do not know the answers for, but maybe people here do.
The military paid for Ohio state and Yale. Plus probably student loans and non payable grants.
Thank you, Mari.
Thank you for explaining. I would hope people might bother to find this out or read his book.
If not for his common sense, honesty, intelligence, and articulate speaking talents, Vance
wouldn’t have made it out of hillbilly Kentucky. He deserves a lot of credit for his achievements.
His mother, Beverly, spoke in Lenoir City, TN tonight giving her testimony about her recover and the relationships that were damaged and restored. I have admiration for her grit and perseverence.
Supposedly step fathers if his mother was actually really married to then.
Have you never heard of cross adoption? Where the parents adopt the kids they did NOT parent before the marriage? My bride has 3 last names. LEGAL names. Getting her Birth Cert in order to get her a passport was a HUGE comedy.
He changed his last name to that of his maternal grandparents, who largely raised him. The earlier changes were made by his mother.
I found Hillbilly Elegy about as honest and realistic as it could be, if you’re familiar with the South and Midwest, the poor and middle class. With all the adversity working against him, it’s a miracle JD Vance became an intelligent and successful young man. Many boys with more advantages haven’t accomplished half as much.
As long as he’s not a Romney/Liz Cheney/Bush/Bolton type, I’m going to support him and President Trump.
Vivek is a slick snake oil vendor, a phoney & this oozes throughout his whole demeanor, frankly am surprised he’s been able to fool so many gullible, dimwits. Perhaps his culture/background may shed more light :
https://rumble.com/v5zlqje-jayant-bhandari-immigrants-from-india-are-not-good-for-canada.html
https://odysee.com/@Minnesota-tan:5/Codex-Pajeet-II:4
“Would J.D. Vance support the elimination of FISA(702), FISA Courts, or the National Security Division of the DOJ (something that forms the foundation of removing the worst elements of the Deep State), knowing that action would be adverse to the interests of his benefactor and mentor, Peter Thiel?”
Has Donald Trump supported it?
Two of the name changes happened when he was adopted by his stepfather, and then when the stepfather left. I grew up around a lot of divorce and remarriage, its sad but not that uncommon.
VP JD Vance did speak out recently against Microsoft and other tech companies laying off American workers, and trying to replace them with cheaper H1B visa workers. After Vivek’s and Elon’s rants glorifying foreign workers work ethic over American workers, I was impressed that Vance put a spotlight on the issue and called out how Microsoft and others were gaming the system and hurting our own workers. He said it was BS — something that I would think would make a lot of tech moguls wince. I felt it put some daylight between him and Thiel and the tech billionaires.
OMG, Sundance. So many posts of yours on ‘X’ going back months, especially when I was out of the country and you were my real time news source, I’ve wanted to simply reply “too soon” (2028).
I read ALL of this post. I get it, I get it now.
Thank you, SD, for all your teachings, insider stuff (lol) and research information you share.
Yes Molly. I read the whole post as well. Not like I could stop in the middle of it.
Thank you Sundance for helping me to let the scales of adoration fall off of my eyes re JD. Excellent analysis and writing you’ve accomplished here..
Realize by reading your post that I have been in awe of Vance since the E. Palestine train wreck (less than 20 miles west from home) when as a Senator from Ohio, Vance got his beautiful cowboy boots wet whilst showing the pollution in the water, dead fish etc, while at the same time that the Transportation Secretary Pete B, most lkely was on an unannounced ma/pa-ternity leave chest feeding his baby. Pete can do what he wants, but some things are best kept private and on a need to know basis.
JD Vance is okay by me but I’ll be taking care. Putno idol’s before you right?
I guess I am still in shock that in less than a year, the lais-sez-faire, anything goes in the Biden times are just about cleaned up on every aisle. I give much praise and thanks to the Lord that his is happening.
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The surveillance state is fast at work behind the scenes. Starting this football season all athletic events at the University of Florida will use biometric ticketing aka facial recognition at all sporting events. This will allow fans to bypass the lines they say. Enrollment in the program is free. The ‘program’ they will use is called Express Entry. Selling facial recognition as a convenience.
https://floridagators.com/news/2025/8/12/football-university-of-florida-becomes-first-college-to-launch-facial-authentication-express-entry-for-fans.aspx?
I think the jail breaks in NOLA were to test the system. See how fast problems like that could solved. If you have flown in the last few years, many have signed up for easy pass. Leeloo Dallas Multi Pass….
It makes sense. If you pay by phone it’s usually facial recognition that ensures you are authorized for the charge.
You mean the cellphone camera is recording you and facial recognition is checking you out? Sounds way too creepy for me.
Time to buy silicon masks, like most politicians
Not into cabbage. Can occasionally handle sauerkraut, but only if homemade by someone who knows how to make it. The grocery store stuff – yuck.
Sorry, but this analysis is worth about as much as the Charmin I picked up this morning from HEB. If you can’t see the value in JD Vance vs the alternatives, then I don’t know what to tell you.
Wasn’t talking about JD. Lighten up a little.
Sorry, but if you can’t see the incredible depth of insider knowledge Sundance has, then you don’t belong here. Try Breitbart or Fox.
Yep. Too bad Charmin is the choice of toilet paper for @HSBhorn34.
I think General Flynn will be the next President.
hhahahahah
One does have to come to CTH and read Sundance’s articles to Truly understand who the real Movers and Shakers are in our political economy.
I knew none of what Sundance presented about J.D. Vance.
I am amazed / alarmed / appalled about how much the Powers that Be are willing to sell us a completely fictitious narrative. Problem is, not knowing any better (thanks Fake News!) we fall for the fiction hook, line & sinker!!!!
Sundance, I have to say that you must be really, REALLY mad that PDJT didn’t recruit you personally to be the one to vet and appoint every damn person in the President’s orbit.
The fact that you feel the need to once again write endless articles to prove your point(s) is getting tiresome. The bottom line here is that you, Sundance, do not like J.D. Bowman-Hamel-Vance, no matter what name the guy changes his name(s) to, regardless. This is quite evident. You state your studies and reasoning. BUT, You loose credibility when you feel the need to pummel people with pages and pages of your reasoning.
Next article on J.D. Whatever-His-Name-Is… Make it basic and short. For all readers here who have been following your work for years, WE KNOW we can access additional information, if we want to.
As for how I feel about J. D. __________ I like him. I like how he is quick and is able to think-on-his-feet in pretty hot confrontations. I like this. He looks directly into people’s eyes when he is talking to them. I like this. Do I distrust his being linked to “big pockets”… they ALL ARE in some way or another.
Do I think he is the ANSWER to all questions ‘2028’…I will make that decision much later.
My impression of Sundance over these years is that he would not be mad – really, really mad – about not being recruited personally to vet and appoint every damn person in the President’s orbit. My impression is that he would rather spend precious time researching the articles he presents to us and then as well as he can, enjoy his best life while mulling over the next article! Not hobnobbing with the DC hoi polloi, such as John Bolton!
“You state your studies and reasoning. BUT, You loose credibility when you feel the need to pummel people with pages and pages of your reasoning.”
Stating studies and reasoning often takes pages and pages to do so, especially when the end result shows great credibility.
Pummeling people with pages of reasoning? Don’t read and you won’t get “pummeled.”
You go, ‘patriot’ girl. Go right out the door and keep going and don’t come back, ya hear?
I like J.D. He hasn’t done anything particularly noticeable yet but isn’t that the VP’s job description. Plus break ties in the Senate. But with this article, Sundance pulls together all the relevant facts about J.D. that we need to keep in mind.
As always with Sundance, I didn’t feel like he was trying to make my mind up for me. He was just reiterating facts. Facts that we need to keep in mind when all these “Republicans” line up on stage for the debate.
I agree. I like as much well-researched information as I can get. SD is a treasure. I don’t need to go anywhere else for “news”.
Sundance has a proven track record. He definitely has sources that no one else has. There have been times that I have read his analyses and been quite doubtful, but over time he has been right more than I have. He’s not perfect, because no one is. But I know I’ve seen enough over the years to know that what he writes is usually spot on.
I have no idea about 2028 yet. I know that when they made Trump, they broke the mold – there will never be another. And yet we will have to elect someone in 2028. I was unhappy when Vance was selected for VP. I read his book, and it had a very Uniparty flavor to it. Then there is Rubio, who has performed well over expectations, but the key word is “performed.” To my mind, Rubio is a charter member of the Uniparty. Has he seen the light? I don’t think anyone can see the light in DC.
For now, I think the heir to Trump might be unknown to us at this moment, and that he may emerge later on. The fact is that no one in his administration can fill his shoes. I don’t think anyone, anywhere can. But I’m looking for the person who can come closest, and I haven’t seen that person yet.
I’ve never read any of your posts here before, but I try to read all of the comments others have made before I post It’s okay to disagree with Sundance. But if you are tired of reading his posts, go somewhere else please. I stopped having tantrums about things I didn’t like when I was about ten years old, and I don’t like reading yours. Funny how it is, that Sundance allows you to vent and smear him. Tiresome is NOT Sundance.
What do Peter Theil, Jacob Helberg, Bill Ackman and Scott Bessent all have in common? Deep ties to Soros? No, that was Bessent. All Jews? Not all of them.
All married… to dudes. It was part of the 2024 strategy to fold in more gays to dull the gay resistance. It worked… we got Scott Pressler out of the deal along with J6’r Brandon Straka.
Trump is a horse trader. He will spider-crawl all silos to assemble a stepladder to a destination. He’s used experts in numerous fields to achieve things. Don’t be shocked when he taps our enemies for his goals.
Are they our goals too? Some are but not all… as always, read the signs and be discerning.
Bill Ackman is married to a woman.
Watch your back Sundance as your opinions are historically accurate and prescient and thank you for your unvarnished exposure of the IC. As has been the habit for years, you are in my prayers in the pew tomorrow. God Bless.
I became suspicious of Vance as soon as I first read about him. Yale law school would never accept an unconnected White man from a Midwest state school to its law school. Never ever never. No matter his LSAT scores Yale is and was back then firmly committed to DEI. Aka No Whites Need Apply. He was probably tapped in undergrad college.
criminal old fixer Joe Kennedy had Arthur Krutch write that Profiles in Courage Book for John Kennedy. Ever read it? Very superficial Krutch copied straight from the old Encyclopedias.
Obama ‘s handlers had weather underground terrorists Bill Ayer and Bernadette Dohern wrote Obama’s book. Obama of course, was planned from the time his mother was a small child or maybe from Stanley Anne’s Dunham birth. Her parents were communists under surveillance by the FBI from the mid 1930s on. Parents best friend in Hawaii was Frank Marshall Davis head of communist party Hawaii. Obama’s dad an African communist arrived in Hawaii in mid August. Obama conceived by November. Then the sperm donor disappeared back to Africa Because an American black would have been inconvenient hanging around raising the baby relatives
I first wondered why Stanley Anne didn’t just select one of the thousands of black American military men to be the sperm donor., But an ordinary American father might have interfered with the plan..
No one outside Chicago ever heard of Obama until his autobiography written by radical terrorists Ayers and Dohern arrived to great publicity. Featured in all those big book stores in every mall and downtown.
It’s been a pattern since Joe Kennedy did it for John.
Something most people don’t know. Obama senior was brought to America in the summer of 1959 by the Kennedy Foundation. The radical communist Africans who arranged admission of Africans to American universities didn’t have enough money for the airfare and living expenses.
Sergeant Shriver Kennedy in law was the Kennedy organization emissary to the blacks, both American and African.
Shriver arranged a top secret meeting between the radical communist Africans and John Kennedy in Hyannis Port in summer of 1959. Because the south was still solid Democrat. And Kennedy desperately need the solid south to win the presidency in 1960. The African had to promise to keep the funding top top secret
Kennedy was elected in 1960 Just a few months after the birth of Barrack Obama Jr.
Shriver quickly dispersed the funds and Obama Sr arrived in Hawaii in time to conceive Barack jr. An arranged marriage just like the old royal families. Between an American raised communist and an African communist brought to America by the Kennedy Foundation with the express consent of John Kennedy. Neither old Joe nor Robert not any other advisors and handlers were at that meeting.
It is a pattern obscure young politician writes a book. Or someone writes it for him
. It’s immediately published put on the best seller list applauded and acclaimed and the author becomes famous overnight. Vance even got a movie made.
The African was Kenyan radical communist Tom Myboba.
John Kennedy was very involved in the early 1960s African colonies freedom from the Europeans. So that American corporations could sell products in Africa. For much more expensive prices than the Europeans did . And buy chocolate rubber oil gold and any other African products more cheaply than the protective European colony trade system did. And subject the Africans to the ups and downs of the commodities traders. Which the Europeans protected their colonies from.
Zohran Mamdanis father followed the same route
Mahmoud Mamdani was one of 23 Ugandan students in the 1963 group of the Kennedy Airlift. , a US-funded scholarship program that brought hundreds of East Africans to universities in the United States and Canada between 1959 and 1963.
Mamdani began studying at the University of Pittsburgh in 1963 and graduated with a Bachelor of Arts degree in political science in 1967.
Maybe do a little more homework on JD Vance. His book is well worth reading.
He’s not a Kennedy or an Obama.
Far from it.
I like him because he’s not a democrat. Kennedy didn’t come out of nowhere. But Obama did., more or less like Vance. It’s the best selling book that’s similar with all three. Ben Franklin was a popular author as were other founding fathers. I still think Vance was tapped in undergrad school not Yale. Nothing wrong with that I’m very glad he won. Hope he or another Republican wins in 2028 and serves 2 terms. I wish America would get rid of all the foreign programmers tech people accountants and medical people. Those jobs belong to Americans not Indians Phillipinos or Asians especially Chinese. I’m not really a conservative. I’m a White Nationalist. About all I can do about it is insist on White American men doctors dentists accountants and lawyers.
A DNA test might just reveal that Barry Soebarkah is related to neither Stanley Ann Dunham (CIA second generation) nor to Obama Sr.
Or, for that matter, to Frank Marshall Davis.
His entire story could be a complete construct, starting with his parents and his birth.
At least I recognize that Vance and I share some lineage from somewhere way back in the distant past (those eyes run in some of my family on one side).
There really was a JD Bowman. (And he’s not a Rothschild by-blow like Bill Clinton is rumored to be – if you look as he ages, you can see the resemblance there.)
At this point, tin foil hat firmly affixed, I just want a monthly DNA test and a two year old tugging on faces and hair for any and every candidate, to check for whether we still have a 1.0.
Plus some way to run a screen for the AI ones.
I really think we are on our third Musk and maybe our fourth Zuckerberg. This most recent Zuckerberg is actually attractive, so that’s a big switch. We may be up to our fourth Fetterman, and I’m really not that sure we are still on our first Peter Thiel.
What’s real?
Biden wasn’t. Even if you think 1.0 was still alive past 2020, there’s no way around having to account for the mutiverse versions with differing heights, chins, ears, and eye colors.
We need real elections. Same day, proper ID, paper ballots.
We also need human, non-switching, alive and verifiable office seekers and office holders.
Is it true that Trump’s “The Art of the Deal” was actually ghost-written by Tony Schwartz?
Or is this more bull-puckey by leftist media?
I just I just listed to Tucker interview with Dave Cullum. He has an interesting premiss on what we have been seeing in the media since 2014.
Might be worth the time to hear his perspective.
Rubio and Tulsi. What has Vance done? Threaten the EU/UK. Fight with Zelensky? I’m I missing something that should make JD Vance stand out and be president?
In 2016 if you said you were going to vote for Rubio or Tulsi you would have been laughed off this site.. my how far we’ve come.
In 2020, when incumbent Trump was already the Republican nominee, I voted.for Tulsi in my state primary.
Vance has common sense and honesty, totally unlike most of the Republican elites
and do nothings we’ve tolerated these past decades since Reagan.
You should hear him speak.
Agree. Politically, he brought nothing to the ticket. But he wasn’t an embarrassment like Walz. Economically, though, he is President Trump’s link to AI and the next big thing in our industrial evolution. Maybe that’s what won over President Trump. It’s an area of the economy he might have known little about. See the giant AI investments being made here by domestic and foreign players. Just a thought. His youth and glibness did not make him VP timber. And as I mentioned earlier, he didn’t help Trump win a single state.
well, now now… here’s the deal- PDJT is going to finish his time- and when he is finished, its going to leave the biggest mark on politics ever seen, remembered, loved, or hated. After he is finished, the old ways of doing business are completely buried.
“never wise up a sucker” ha! the general population will be so wise as to what has been going on, there will be NO going back to the old books the career crook politicians are finished exposed ruined the emperor has lost his complete wardrobe.
the next generation of elected folks will be dancing to a whole new beat. wont be no rapcrap move over Beethoven!
most folk will be wise and hopefully mad as hell and GET OFF THEIR ARSES AND GO OUT AND VOTE!!!
JD? he will be required to learn the new dance while new books are written…
The biggest problem with finding a suitable candidate to carry on in President Trump’s footstep is a vexing one…
There are plenty of candidates with benefactors placing bets…
The problem is none of those benefactors are we the people…
That is what makes President Trump a standout…
I’m afraid that whomever gets the nod, they will pale in comparison….
That is our biggest weakness post Trump….IMHO…
Trump is a one in a million person. My expectations are that if a President can do what you expect 70% of the time then he or she is a good President. The alternative is getting a President that goes the other way.
It’s like steering a large ship. They turn slowly.
Why can’t we ever have nice things?
Anyways I’m going online tonight to buy a “Grow Your Own Pol” kit.
“Those benefactors, and the aligned Vance influence network, include Charlie Kirk…”
I knew Kirk was a lyin’ jerk when, during the 2024 Turning Point convention in Detroit, he took a poll to see who those in attendance wanted for Donald Trump’s VP running mate.
The big thing was that kirk the jerk didn’t include any of the names we all knew to be OK up to that point, but he did include JD Vance among other less known names.
JD Vance was nobody up to that point, but kirk the jerk worked the audience, put on his barker’s apron, and sold a ton of snake oil to the crowd that day, in the form of JD Vance.
It’s just like you’ve written for years, Sundance, the deepstate gives us their “choices” to choose from, but first they wrap those choices up and make them look like shiney new things we really want.
Charlie Kirk is part of the deepstate.
so true Raven, in spades!
What we see in Trump is a man working with others for US. Others do not pull his strings. JD has strings, Sundance named them. They pull…
Kirk is not deep state lol. The Deep state hates Charlie with a passion.
Is SKB ?
Amazing. Thank you, Sundance!
AMEN Sundance! I never supported J. D. Vance and I have never trusted Marco Rubio, his having been a member of the “Gang of 8.” Then again I have always had doubts about Tulsi Gabbard and her connections to DAVOS! But Gabbard has “won” me over with her extreme professionalism and Rubio has totally impressed me in interpreting and implementing MAGA policy. I hope Vance may have only been a useful MAGA tool in helping elect 47. Sundance you continue to educate me and expand my horizons.
GOD BLESS YOU!
I read Dreams from My Father and I’ve read Hillbilly Elegy recently. Totally different, clashing worlds.
We have to deal with lots of different people in life, especially if one shows intelligence and talent
like JD Vance. If Thiel is a nefarious actor of the Deep State, then it pays to have some friendlies
working inside. I think Vance is above board and an ally of American Taxpayers.
True. God will prevail. He uses men for His good purposes, and hopefully, we have a few men in high places
who will submit to His will for their lives.
Sundance was not comparing the books but rather that there were books and how both men were groomed to be where they were at certain points.
The similarity was not the content of the books.
Strip away all of it and ask yourself what fundamental things a politician does to expand your liberty.
Are you freer with the laws he has advanced? Has he worked tirelessly to protect you from governmental overreach? Has he been effective at reining in government?
Those are the people that deserve our votes.
I want anyone who will enforce the laws we already have and uphold their oath to follow the Constitution, not ignore it.
I like Vance, but Rubio has been a heavy weight all year. Highly impressive, more qualified than Vance.
Rubio has been in the public eye longer than Vance. That should matter.
After reading Sundance’s essay I say I like it.
However, I have a gut that won’t let me be dislodged from its nagging insistence.
It is the same one that nagged me running up to 2024 and was proven correct.
Without any “hopium” involved, I believe many, many people are going to be surprised in the run-up to 2028.
Instinct? Some call it that. So, I will go with that for now as I keep up with events.
Sundance, the breadth of your vision politically is breath taking!! I am happy to hear you are sharing this vision with at least some of folks who weald power in government. I just wish PDT had you as a top advisor-albeit unnoticed by the world.
I love your story of top IC leader roaring at his staff about your insights!!! Sundance you have been wondering like you about Vance’s true allegiance. I am encouraged big time with fact that Vance has embraced the Catholic faith in recent years and seems to be utterly sincere in service to God almighty. I will continue to pray for his deeper conversion and discernment-while also praying for folks like Marco Rubio and entire Trump team.
Finally I agree that Donald is not stupid and would be wise to keep the enemy guessing as to he will one day be endorsing as 2028 GOP candidate.
God bless you :Sundance and keep up your great work leading us deplorables in pursuit of political truth here at tree house.
Wasn’t it Don Jr. who suggested Vance as VP to DJT? Is ther a connection between Don Jr. and Thiel?
I believe that’s true but it was based partly on the age factor. Trump needed someone younger to help the ticket. Voters didn’t want an older person anymore after the four years of Biden.
I suspect Barron Trump had a say as well as part of the younger generation and that is who the conservatives are targeting as they should.
I trust no one. I’m suspicious until you get your ear shot by turning your head at the last second. I appreciate SD immensely.
That ear did heal perfectly well, like no ear has healed before, too, right? ☺️😎
Facial and ear wounds heal very well due to rich blood supply.
You’re so obvious.
I pulled this little gem out: “Trust God, and for everyone else – watch them like a hawk, while you live your best life.”
That goes in the list of Sundance Nuggets
Vance strikes me as an authentic Catholic convert. Along with his remarks at this year’s National Catholic Prayer Breakfast, this substantial testimony from 2020 is telling: https://thelampmagazine.com/blog/how-i-joined-the-resistance. I don’t believe a fraud who means his country harm could live a genuine sacramental life. Impossible. God’s grace is working in that man, no matter who his supporters may have been along the way.
I heartily agree Thomas. Vance is sincere in his love of Jesus as far as I can discern. Tough to fake this stuff.
Are his children Catholic or Hindu?
He says his proudest moment was when his 7 yr-old son asked for Catholic baptism and that his wife agreed to raise their children Catholic.
Who would have thought Rubio would have been such a great SEC STATE? I thought he was bought and paid for by the USSCI.
WHO KNOWS!?
I have noticed for some months now that JD Vance does not have a privileged role in the Trump administration.
Why that is, is to me, too early to tell.
I get the vibe President Trump doesn’t vibe with him for whatever reason – personalities, interests, doesn’t trust him after Pence or for other reasons.
Sundance:
Unfortunately, much like an abuser toward the abused, our ideological enemy uses our virtues of love and trust as weapons. We are in an abusive relationship with government.
However, many of us are sick and tired of having the virtue of our patriotism weaponized against us. For reference, see DHS, ODNI, CISA, TSA, The Patriot Act, or any other of the myriads of crisis-created legislative solutions, later turned into tools by bad actors that inevitably diminish freedom.
This is certainly true in general.
Health care workers have their desire to help others used against them. We have to do more and more to be paid; to break even. Yet we cannot in good conscience neglect the needs of the patients in front of us, or the peers around us.
So we keep giving to the patients while our handlers: Insurance companies, government, hospitals, licensing boards, risk management dictators, HIPAA compliance officers, “quality managers” — keep adding work to us until we quit, break, become dysfunctional, become heartless and apathetic.
Or we join the dark side and work for the insurance companies or the government, sacrifice care and ethics.
Or commit suicide. The highest rate of suicide among professions is medicine. Higher than war vets.
It just hit me. . .
These messages are written and I always thought they were given as gifts of great information to help me/us learn about many different subjects.
Now I believe there is a much greater purpose for why all this information is presented, for how it is delivered and how it is given freely to be used freely by all.
I believe these posts are written not so much for the little old grandma like me who is just trying to keep up, but for those who are in places of power and influence, so they may, for the first time in their lives, clearly see what is actually going on.
Miller/Tulsi
We always considered LilMarco to be a Rino…..what changed?
He has to do what Trump says according to policies….idk @Rubio
Almost everyone has reasons not to trust them. If everyone is trying to do the right thing in the moment where they are, we all have influence. People are becoming more MAGA. Grifters seeking easy money are having doors or immoral opportunity closed. Consequences are being meted for immoral behavior.
How we live, what we think, what we say matters. Lil Marco may change. Lincoln grew and matured over time. Trump has matured and grown over time. He has been influenced by the American people. He has been influenced by the obvious favor of God supporting him — or as a minimum the fruits of his good choices.
Reagan was a democrat before he was a Republican. So was Charlton Heston.
John Wayne voted for FDR .
Different kind of democrats and different time.
Sorry – I am seeing the opposite. We live about an hour west of Houston. Earlier today, around 5pm, we saw a cute older couple – I’d guess in their 70s – paying for their groceries. They were both wearing Trump shirts. And both got heckled out of the store. I’m assuming this has happened before , and they probably wear Trump gear all the time – they both ignored the noise and kept to themselves.
But this struck me and my wife. This is a mostly MAGA area – we aren’t near Houston proper. And these people were getting booed and called names.
Eye-opening experience, to say the least.
Dan….HOUSTON… is a Bolshevik nest I am surprise you did not know it…..
I am starting to think everywhere is a Bolshevik or NAZI nest.
You are completely full of it. Every single post you make is anti or negative MAGA. You are obviously this week’s commie troll. You make it so obvious.
Exactly..
https://citizenwatchreport.com/when-13-employees-walk-away-from-palantir-and-say-this-we-should-listen/
We are living in an open-air incarceration, courtesy Palantir & J.D Vance is definitely a big,big problem…
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Well super. Indirectly referring to a May NPR (!) article anti-Trump that is complaining about Palantir being able to monitor illegal aliens and give ICE real-time info.
This kind of smear is designed to appeal to every single person who can’t be bothered to actually research the article!!!!!!! Specious and dishonest.
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Vance/Rubio or Rubio/Vance would do it fine. Tulsi needs to be the SecDef next time.
Excellent analysis and no one should look away from the facts. I have three quibbles – 1: Thiel is a major investor of Palantir but Karp runs it. 2: Elon’s business model is not funded by government support in a crony capitalist way. The man virtually created satellite internet from thin air. The guy continues to innovate on several front and any contracts he has won are competitive bids and the states still discriminate against him by not awarding the rural broadband contracts to him when his tech is orders of magnitude cheaper. Lastly, if anything, Trump Quashed the environmental subsidies and destroyed the carbon credits market and Elon’s still thriving. That doesn’t even include his robotics, neuroscience, self driving and xAI. 3: Skepticism is absolutely necessary because these billionaire guys didn’t suddenly become altruists, but they were all disgusted with the communism taking over. In other words, they will continue to lean right and that’s a good thing (if you had to pick billionaires supporting Vance versus those who will get after the Democrat, who would you prefer?)
Politics is a binary choice. So, voters should hold the representatives accountable. God knows we need financial and technical support to keep the party at the forefront of thinking, innovation. And WINNING!
Palantir already had several lucrative government contracts dating back to 2010.
The problem is IMO that without surveillance how will Pres Trump get rid of the 50 million illegals?
How will PDJT keep us safe from the Islamist threat?
How will PDJT keep an eye on the scumbag insiders plotting and trying to overthrow the country and install their puppets?
Plus the identity verification of a voter. Going into a polling place with a heavy paper voter id card that has your name on it won’t cut it anymore.
The time has come,’ the Walrus said, To talk of many things:
Of shoes — and ships — and sealing-wax — Of cabbages — and kings —
And why the sea is boiling hot — And whether pigs have wings.’
We are far down inside the Looking Glass. Kings come and go. Pigs do sometimes fly.
Much can happen between now and 2028. We still have the midterms to get through and the endless stream of rogue judicial decisions. Many things can and will change between now and then.
Remember the most recent VP to make a run for Pres was Kamala.
And there is still the threat of Musk starting an alternate political party. If Musk actually does that will he dilute momentum from Vance? Will Vance jump to Musk’s tech-bro party? Will Musk attempt to reconcile with the MAGA crowd and if so, will he be welcomed back or marked as a turncoat?
Will there be primary challengers in 2028? If there are any they will begin to emerge after the 2026 midterms.
There will definitely be uniparty challengers. I don’t know who just yet, but you can bet there will be. But Trump will endorse who he wants, and IMHO that person will win the nomination.
I say keep your eyes and mind open, don’t do what the democrats did to themselves where everything is emotional and not fact – they all went down with the ship and they don’t even know it. Believing and trusting in anyone beside God our Father can lead to disappointment. Let’s see what happens and if anyone ever gets prosecuted for there crimes and put behind bars. If not this is all a show.
Yes, the dems have been involved in pretend primaries, caucus’s for about 20 years.
[ (to save money and push an untold agenda) untold, the insider$ have their desired, so called ‘electable’ candidate, before the public even begins to weigh and measure….hillary, bernie, tulsi etc know. first hand about the token ‘debates’… and whom get$ the most favored media access (without saying so)…
They also try to see that dems on the down ticket do not primary other dems – to save money. ( untold, erasing public input in the process – without saying so.) ]
The RNC just selected a new chair person.
Do you suppose that both parties behave about the same regarding narrowing the field, before the public actually weighs and measures each candidate
(are some pre-selects, just more obvious than others, perhaps in part based on behind the scenes promises of a seat at the table and / or fund raising ability …)?
p.s.
The (political persuasion) games people play:
I can remember some GOP candidates that had a very good return on the investment based on measurables:
i.e. a low level of fund raising, but a high level of likeability by the voters (huckabee, ’07).
[ and so, to counter that high likeability, the party would allot more funds to the parties untold preselected favorite buy less liked (romney) so as to outspend, out advertise the more likeable (huckabee) candidate. Romney had to spend A LOT to garner votes. ]
[ and of course, the media was untold asked to weigh in,
by early on calling 1 candidate ‘electable’ and the other less ‘electable’ (all contrived). And as such, many viewers would miss buy the repetitive wooden-nickel propaganda
(instead of getting to know the candidate(s) verifiable actions, and making their own assessment(s).)
The table has been pre-set before…
Combine that with some untold ballot (and / or counting) shenanigans….
[ and the usa has ‘election integrity’ problems ]
Some people are aware,
and some of those people are working on remedies. (to help achieve, 1 legal person, 1 legal vote, and counted as 1 vote – verifiable in short time (days, not months, years.)
imho
So SD doesn’t support Vance, Ramaswampy, DeSantaclaus, iffffy on Rubio, none of the other losers running in last primary, so who does he support that doesn’t have baggage that is electable?
Frankly, I Don’t think we have anyone that we can completely trust.
I could support Tulsi Gabbard, Matt Gaetz, current Texas AG, STEPHEN Miller, Michael Flynn, Pete Hegseth, anyone blindly selected from phone book, or a homeless person.
As someone who has followed Peter Thiel and Palantir for quite sometime; I can tell you that their fastest growing revenue source is US Commercial. It now is larger than US Government revenue.
Does Peter Thiel and Palantir want US government revenue to grow? Yes. Has FISA enabled a use of their software that they have profited from? Yes
Does that mean that the Peter Thiel JD Vance relationship is primarily about Peter Thiel’s financial interests? Any answer to that question is speculation.
Personally, I believe the “Tech Bros” who support Donald Trump have done a good job of articulating a quasi conservative/libertarian political philosophy that they see more hope of fulfillment with Trump versus Dems.
What corrupt intentions may lurk in their hearts? I need to look to keeping my own malevolence at bay.
Thank you Sundance for this useful report on a potential Republican candidate. There is a lot in here I knew but a lot I did not know. I would rather have the full story.
I will probably vote for JDV if he is the candidate, because the Dimms alternative are just not acceptable.
Consider, Newsome, Pritzer or one of the other semi-woke Governors from Blue states.
I do have to admit I will always support a governor over a Senator, because the US Senate is corrupt, and a Governor at least has executive experience.
One problem will be the Low Information Voters (LIVs)
While we have a large group we are still small verses the population of voters.
Consider that all of cable news probably only has 3-4 million viewers any night.
The network news probably has even less. The MSM will make sure whoever the Dimms nominate has name recognition.
We will need to make sure whoever the Ripps put up in response has enough recognition for the LIV’s to recognize
Considering this, I would like to request a full dosier like this showing all the background and .influencers into the development of Governor DeSantis as a candidate,
We will probably have Rubio, JDV, and DeSantis as our major candidates, maybe Youngkin, and some others.
As their names come up, I would appreciate a full disclosure report on each one, showing all influences and influencers.
We All should consider that as some of their names come forward, and their name recognition developes, that they may be the person or persons who God wants us to choose from.
Right now JDV, Rubio, and DeSantis seem to have received that “blessing.”
We will have to prayerfully consider each, and pray for his and our Devine guidance, so we all make the right choices.
In my life I have not always had the choices I wanted, but the choices God Gave me. I have learned to be thankful In that case and to do the best with what was provided.
I have come through 71 yeas without having the “perfect” choice or situation in anything, but yet here I am and thankful for what I have. We will have to choose from what we have available in 3.5 years, and here is hoping God will provide something to work with, and we all will do our best.
WATCH: VP JD Vance Buries NBC’s Kristen Welker with a Masterful Response After She Slyly Accuses Trump of Seeking “Retribution” Against Warmonger John Bolton
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/watch-vp-jd-vance-buries-nbcs-kristen-welker/
J.D. wears the “good ole boy” label well.
so, who do u want if not JD? clearly no Desantis —u hate him. Clearly not Rubio who u consider Deep State. and no Cruz either.
so…..who do YOU want?
PDJT for 5 more TERMS
this world is weird and unfriendly.
this is WHY GOD SENT HIS ONLY SON. JESUS CHRIST.
it was a sacrifice conceived by a LOVE that no man human can possibly create.
but this miracle was produced so that we can understand, even basically, what is really means to love …to care…to sacrifice one’s own self and station, even physical comfort so that some one ELSE can have hope, love, enjoyment, prosperity and to live as God had intended..boldly, abundantly, but also forthRIGHT, HONEST, TRUTHFULLY.
I mention these things because they matter the most in “times as this”.
we want things to be different…to BECOME MORE PURE AND OBVIOUS.
to that I say simply: today take your position that you were GIVEN, and use it to make a light that others can see and feel.
and when you are doing this….rejoice and praise GOD the almighty as you are ordered to perform.
it’s not a difficult task this life. All the instructions are quite simple.
make no other person above God. Not even and especially not even yourself.
understand who you are, and why you are here.
and celebrate the extraordinary power of God that dwells in YOU.
and tell everyone about this. everyone
be unafraid
HE IS RISEN.
God Bless America
Make disciples of ALL nations