Abandoned by his father to a troubled single mother; eventually raised by grandparents. He is then recruited from an Ivy league law school by shadow figures, a specific billionaire and a network of interests. He changes his name, writes a book about his life story, and with the support of the aforementioned – who eventually pays for a strategic campaign, becomes a Senator for 2 years before being quickly elevated into position in the White House.
Many people reading that paragraph are familiar with the life story of Barack Hussien Obama. However, that paragraph is not describing Obama, that paragraph describes James Donald Bowman, aka J.D. Vance.
On one side, we have an emotionally constructed political figure for the left. On the other side, we see an emotionally constructed political figure for the right. Each person, each emotional narrative, carrying the specific nuances to appeal to their audience; both follow the same playbook.
J.D. Vance was born James Donald Bowman in Middletown, Ohio (August 2, 1984). He then changed his name to James David Bowman. He then changed his name to James David Hamel. Eventually, in 2014, notably after Yale Law School (class of 2013, and after marrying his wife Usha, now age 30, he changed his name to write a book.
It was 2014, that’s when J.D. Vance was born.
Vance’s book, Hillbilly Elegy was published by Rupert Murdoch’s publishing house, Harper Collins in 2016. The book was made into a Netflix movie, [Reed Hastings] created by Imagine Entertainment and directed by Ron Howard (2020).
However, the interesting background on J.D. Vance goes back to Yale, and the Obamaesque tap on the shoulder that comes from a billionaire most are familiar with, Peter Thiel (PayPal and Palantir).
Thiel first recruited Vance into his circle while Vance was still a student at Yale Law School. Shortly thereafter, Vance joined Thiel’s investment firm Mithril Capital, where he worked for two years before joining Revolution Ventures. Vance played a major role in Revolution’s “Rise of the Rest” seed fund whose major investors included Amazon’s Jeff Bezos. {Citation}
J.D. Vance then launched his own venture capital firm Narya Capital in 2020, using startup money from both Peter Thiel and former Google CEO Eric Schmidt.
From this timeline, we can see how J.D. Vance went from no money (student loans) in 2013, to big money in 2020. Everything came via Peter Thiel and Eric Schmidt, but mostly Thiel.
To understand J.D. Vance as an Ohio Senator, we visit the inflection points in 2013 and the subsequent relationship with billionaire Peter Thiel (Palantir Technologies). The timeline from 2013 to now becomes important.
Billionaires Eric Schmidt and Peter Thiel are key members of the steering committee of the controversial, closed-door, and overtly globalist Bilderberg conference. Newsweek once called Schmidt and Thiel the two most influential figures at Bilderberg.
Peter Thiel’s company, Palantir Tech, is the driving force of a global surveillance system using artificial intelligence (AI).
Palantir has massive contract interests in U.S. military and intelligence communities.
Keep in mind, Palantir is the current company creating the tech mechanisms for the U.S. government to conduct foreign and domestic surveillance.
The actual technology needed by the Deep State, to advance their interests, is provided by Peter Thiel. {Citation}
According to the popular narrative, J.D. Vance opposes the Intelligence Community deep surveillance state, while simultaneously being the political front for the interests of Peter Thiel and Palantir Technology. This doesn’t reconcile.
Peter Thiel was the money and network behind the 2022 Ohio Senate race between J.D. Vance and Tim Ryan.
It was Peter Thiel who took J.D. Vance to meet President Trump in Mar-a-Lago to get the needed endorsement to launch Vance into the U.S. Senate. Without Peter Thiel there is no Senator J.D. Vance.
It is also important to remember that prior to 2018, prior to Peter Thiel becoming aligned with the FBI as a confidential human source, and prior to Vance needing the Trump endorsement, J.D. Vance was a staunch never-Trumper.
J.D. Vance went from calling President Trump “a literal Hitler,” to appreciating Trump’s incredible leadership – a remarkable shift in opinion. To his strategic credit, Peter Thiel was successful in gaining both the Trump endorsement and the winning outcome of the 2022 Ohio Senate race. That success was now Senator J.D. Vance.
Within the Thiel network, you will note the aligned interests of another key financial friend and big federal contractor, Elon Musk. Together, Elon Musk and Peter Thiel form the core of a very wealthy group of modern tech political influence agents, including another Yale Law School graduate and J.D. Vance supporter, Vivek Ramaswamy.
J.D. Vance named one of his three children Vivek. Suffice to say, they are close.
What you have read so far is the background of how a billionaire, Peter Thiel, deeply enmeshed in the surveillance state, creates the process for the advancement of his interests. A few dozen millions are a worthy investment if the investment creates and supports the objectives of the billionaire (Palantir Technology).
As an outcome of an influence network in 2006, Senator Barack Obama was successfully installed. As an outcome of an influence network in 2022, Senator J.D. Vance was successfully installed.
Both Barry Sotero (Obama) and James Bowman (Vance) are mirror images of each other; the playbooks used to create both are identical. One went through the path of community activism, the other through the military. Both paths have a target audience.
We have long discussed the UniParty operation in Washington DC. What was once a radical concept and controversial, is now accepted as reality.
We have also outlined the how the Fourth Branch of Government was created under Obama. What was once conspiracy theory is now accepted as the truth.
Once we accept how both wings of the UniParty operate, we then see how the system works. The Obama network ultimately led to the modern IC surveillance state. The Vance network now appears to be positioned to benefit from it.
Unfortunately, much like an abuser toward the abused, our ideological enemy uses our virtues of love and trust as weapons. We are in an abusive relationship with government.
♦ STRATEGIC OPTIMISM – In everything that happens, the geopolitical power players -including the Intelligence Community- have what are called “strategic interests.” Meaning, they plan out their future position based on current events (data), pathways and predictions.
Some of these power structures are, putting it mildly, not good. In fact, they are eroding liberty, freedom and making us serfs, while creating a system of political elites. We feel it daily.
In order to best weaken, or make them more vulnerable, the best strategy is to put them into a position where they cannot plan for the future because they cannot predict the waypoints in their path.
Having a known 2028 U.S. presidential nominee gives them the ability to plan for it. They are able to make moves to get beyond the 2024 to 2028 challenges they face; they look toward who they will be faced with as an opponent in ’28.
From that position, they conduct enemy operations against Trump’s strategy…. they essentially plan to outlast him, ignore him, put on a mask when they talk to him, etc.
President Trump, making it known who will be the ’28 nominee, gives his opposition power. Essentially making Trump’s position less strong.
Had Trump selected a “one-term” running mate (I don’t care who it would have been), the opposition would not know what to expect in 2028. They would be forced to focus every day on what Trump is doing. The opposition cannot look forward (proactive) beyond Trump. They are forced to react. They are kept vulnerable.
Do you want your enemies planning, or do you want them reacting to the unknown variables?
Do you want them focused on your attack, or do you want them brushing you off as irrelevant in the longer term?
Do you want them on their heels each day/week as they try to figure out what you are doing…. or do you want them to know the destination ahead, regardless of the daily or weekly policy moves?
By selecting a VP nominee that will be the 2028 presidential nominee (what 90% of short-sighted people wanted), Trump would give greater power to the ideological enemy.
For the next 3.5 years, to achieve the maximum benefit from President Trump, the deep state at home and geopolitical enemy abroad must not know what they will face in the future.
From that position of potential vulnerability, they are forced to focus on daily events and counterstrategies, while unable -by design- to compromise the future opponent.
I never resign Trump to a failed position, as long as there is a way to turn a necessary decision into a winning and more powerful position.
The problem of Peter Thiel, his network, and the potential problem J.D. Vance represents can be dealt with.
President Donald J. Trump makes it very well known, and constantly reminds people for 3 years, that if J.D. Vance sucks, flinches, is inept or doesn’t follow orders, then J.D. Vance doesn’t get the 2028 endorsement.
Thankfully, we see indications of this beginning with President Trump’s acceptance speech at the RNC Convention and continuing throughout today – including during an interview this week on Fox and Friends, where Trump noted Marco Rubio would be a good option for 2028.
For Trump supporters and all supporters of the goal to deconstruct the worst and most toxic elements of the Deep State, we should support a tenuous 2028 endorsement message. After all, we are expecting Vice President J.D. Vance to uphold actionable policies against the interests of his benefactors.
Those benefactors, and the aligned Vance influence network, include Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Bill Ackman, David Sacks, Chamath Palihapitiya, Jacob Helberg, Vivek Ramaswamy and of course, many more.
I don’t care about anything that happened prior to the 2013 inflection point, the tap on the shoulder at Yale.
James Donald Bowman, aka J.D. Vance’s background construct, as lived or as sold, is irrelevant to me. We do not have the time to be emotionally attached to any individual. We need actionable results.
We are not going to be battered conservatives, pushed yet again into the position of Charlie Brown to Lucy’s deep state, ‘trust the plan‘ football. The trust account of the American electorate is bankrupt. Corruption is running amok.
The threat to J.D. Vance’s political career must be actual, loud and repeated often to keep the toxic IC and domestic Silo operators guessing. While simultaneously, every righteous attack takes down a small IC silo segment like a bite out of an elephant.
We also accept that this rather deliberate approach is likely to make Peter Thiel, J.D. Vance and the entire Thiel/Musk network quite unhappy.
♦ SURVEILLANCE STATE – The research article positions the relationship between J.D. Vance and Peter Thiel as a serious challenge – here’s why.
Since his original endorsement of Donald Trump in 2016 (a good thing), billionaire tech executive Peter Thiel has expanded his company, Palantir Technology, to be the leading edge of an AI enhanced data-processing system.
The Palantir tech is designed to use artificial intelligence (AI) to crawl through massive sets of surveillance data, phone data, facial recognition data, metadata (writ large) etc.
In essence, Palantir Tech is receiving government contracts (Defense and Intel) to use the Palantir AI tools to analyze/filter a massive amount of electronic data, and take action based on results from the data, or what might be called SIGNIT (Signals Intelligence). There are billions at stake in this relationship.
In short, Thiel has a vested financial interest in providing AI surveillance filtration tools to the U.S. government.
Ok fine. That’s just a simple acceptance of what Thiel’s company does now. And Thiel recruited J.D. Vance, back in 2012/2013 while at Yale law school, and personally financed JD’s entry into the world of politics in 2020/2021.
Thiel leveraged his relationship with Donald Trump to get J.D. Vance the Ohio primary endorsement in 2022, and the rest is history. Fair enough. Nothing disputed.
Here’s where things get sticky….
Thiel’s company, Palantir Tech, provides the AI metadata analytic tools used by the U.S. government in their national security efforts. The government access to that metadata comes, in part, as an outcome of the legislative FISA authorization.
As a consequence, eliminating, say… FISA(702) surveillance processes, is against the financial interests of Peter Thiel. If the U.S. government cannot access the dataset, the U.S. govt doesn’t need Palantir’s AI filtration tech. That’s just the nature of the relationship.
Again, this is just a cold, factual acceptance of the situation.
Would J.D. Vance support the elimination of FISA(702), FISA Courts, or the National Security Division of the DOJ (something that forms the foundation of removing the worst elements of the Deep State), knowing that action would be adverse to the interests of his benefactor and mentor, Peter Thiel?
Again, just a question. Perhaps he would, perhaps not; however, a review of history shows the odds are not in our favor.
I mean, there is a reason why Thiel recruited, financed, supported and guided Vance to the position he is now in, correct?
Elon Musk’s entire business model, sans X (maybe) is contingent upon government contracts and policy.
Regardless of his altruistic disposition, or lack thereof, Musk’s enterprises, Tesla and Space-X, do not exist without direct government funding or indirect govt support via policy.
Peter Thiel is essentially in the same position with Palantir Tech, unless the U.S. Government gave him permission to sell his services to foreign adversaries. Not likely.
Many are looking at J.D. Vance as the guy, maybe one of the ‘guys’, who can finally confront the worst elements of the Deep State. However, the worst elements of the Deep State, the surveillance and control silos, are in a synergistic relationship with Vance’s benefactors.
Will Vance willingly tear apart the surveillance state that will create a negative financial outcome for those who put him into office? My note of caution is, ‘Don’t get your hopes up.’
I mean, seriously think about it. Musk puts up USG satellites that monitor stuff. The low-earth-orbit monitoring results (data signals) are returned to the USG. The data signals are then analyzed by AI tech created by Thiel.
Another way to look at it: Elon Musk puts the camera on your face; Peter Thiel tells the govt where you went.
♦ BIG PICTURE – Are the newest group of billionaire Silicon Valley tech leaders currently supporting MAGA Trump/Vance, really a modern assembly of the Green Dragon rebels in Boston, plotting the next Tea Party rebellion? Or are they simply just the other side of a new modern Technocratic control system, aligned with and dependent on government?
The Obama-era ‘Technocracy‘ was based on public-private partnerships with social media. This was the origin of the surveillance state that now scours, controls, filters, censors and ultimately monetizes your social media data profile. The operational and business model is cemented into the process now. Everyone accepts it. Terms and conditions apply, and if you don’t agree, you can’t use.
Is the pending Trump-era ‘Technocracy‘ a rebrand, pushing social media off to the side (that part is done) and bringing data processing control agents, artificial intelligence software designers, big money venture capitalists, banks and those who are creating digital id systems? Do Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Bill Ackman, David Sacks, Chamath Palihapitiya, Jacob Helberg and Vivek Ramaswamy, now occupy the empty chairs around the table of Technocracy?
Was the 5/10-year business model, in the mind of tech billionaire Peter Thiel, what led him to recruit J.D. Vance in 20? Was it a financial decision blended with ideology to guide, finance and support J.D .Vance all the way to 2022 and 2024? Was J.D. Vance an investment?
Truly, I suspect our gut knows the answer.
That’s why my approach is to say, “Here’s the factual data – trust your instincts.”
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Around this time someone will snark, saying my assembling this perspective indicates President Trump is an idiot, or something.
NO! President Trump is not stupid, or naïve!
CTH has painstakingly outlined how the silo process within the Deep State works. You have more information about that process. You have more knowledge about that process.
All of us, courtesy of dozens of brilliant researchers here and in lots of other places on the internet, have a far more comprehensive understanding of how the systems within the D.C. administrative state work than any subset of professional politicians or their staff.
Are you stupid or naïve? No. None of us are.
However, many of us are sick and tired of having the virtue of our patriotism weaponized against us. For reference, see DHS, ODNI, CISA, TSA, The Patriot Act, or any other of the myriads of crisis-created legislative solutions, later turned into tools by bad actors that inevitably diminish freedom.
I was sitting at dinner with a good person, who happened to be the head, the tipy-top, of one of the most connected IC silos in Washington DC, and that person laughed recalling situations where they walked into their office many days and frustratingly shouted at their staff, “Who the f**k is leaking information to this guy,” meaning me. No one was leaking anything, and the entire organization was just as surprised as the leader of it.
My point is that many ordinary Americans know far more about the interconnectedness of DC silo operations, than the people within the individual silos can fathom. They are stuck inside a created system of compartmentalization; we are not.
The overwhelming odds are that you know more than your federal representative. That fact doesn’t make you smarter than President Donald J. Trump, it just means you have a different set of researched datapoints that create a different understanding.
Additionally, President Trump doesn’t “vet” anyone; someone else does the “vetting” for him. That vetting helps him to make decisions, it doesn’t exclusively determine the final decision.
No one is stupid in this discussion. No one knows all the information. The fact-finding is a process of information assembly, that permits guidance to decision making. That’s it.
The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) might have been a good decision at the time, until it starts getting weaponized later on.
Given the nature of the political landscape, Senator J.D. Vance was a good selection for Veep. A candidate for the office of the vice presidency that positioned President Trump, and the people around him, to be able to start putting countermeasures into place to stop government weaponization, a seemingly out of control surveillance state.
Senator J.D. Vance helped to unite the various Republican clans.
Perhaps more valuable, his selection reduced the possibility of the Silicon Valley Technocrats working against OUR interests – as we look to control THEIR influence.
More importantly, Senator J.D. Vance made winning in November of 2024 slightly more likely. That was the key value in his personage.
Perhaps Vance is a technocratic tool; perhaps he’s a MAGA ally; who really knows?
The bottom line is we must understand the context of everything that comes with Vance, nothing more.
Trust God, and for everyone else – watch them like a hawk, while you live your best life.
We won in November. We have an opportunity to start putting countermeasures and guardrails into place that will seemingly impede the efforts of the bad operators within each IC silo. Simultaneously, we need to identify who each bad actor is. We can see DNI Tulsi Gabbard working earnestly on this effort.
This larger mission is the reversal of weaponization, and a restoration of representation that believes in freedom. I am both optimistic and clear-eyed about the nature of the challenges we face.
“Pray for a good winter, but plant lots of cabbages.”
PDJT has devoted a decade of his life to giving us ONE LAST CHANCE at serious Redress and Reform of corrupt bureaucracy. WE are the government. Not the bureaucracy. DJT is doing all one man can do on our behalf. The silos are satanic.
Figuratively speaking, it is up to us to utterly destroy the silos and salt the satanic ashes. How?
Read this. The British Crown Corporation acting as the government of this country can be liquidated like any other if it won’t heed it’s contract.
capitoloccupation.pdf
Actually, DJT spent his entire life devoting it to America. It just had different stages.
I believe that too. The inertia to overcome is immense. PDJT had a fortune amassed, he has income and buffer. He has resources to fight back.
Though I am a practicing physician, the role I chose in primary care, and also choose not to be employed by someone telling me to compromise my values — puts me operating closer to the edge of financial failure. The overhead to stay in practice as a small practice is immense.
But Donald Trump, it cannot be denied, has pledged and is undeniably risking his life, his fortune, and his sacred honor. He has more wealth to lose than I do, but once we’ve lost it all, there isn’t any more.
He is making a greater difference. I don’t know which hill to charge that will make a difference. But the basics that Sundance preaches are sufficient to guide me day to day.
Somehow, however, we all have to get to that point and start charging all the hills that matter in front of us where we are. Trust our gut, speak our mind, live our priorities, love those around us but not let ourselves be abused or taken advantage of.
I see AI as an inevitability. It’s already here and being used for good things. My latest eyeglasses were made with AI technology for the lenses. My diabetes app is AI driven. Instead of spending hours in lines at the airport I can whisk through in about ten minutes thanks to AI and the infrastructure, and no that’s not in the US airports.
Or, we can go back to manual chokes and vacuum wipers. Those of you that are younger will have to ask your parents what those are.
I sure wish J.D. Vance could sit down with Sundance on a news show.
J.D. Vance would say. “Sundance , do you hear yourself ?”
AI is saving lives, creating jobs and saving TAX payer money by helping us catch criminals.
AI is a tool that can be used properly or improperly just like the internet. Change always brings trepidation and fear.
The biggest threat is its use in schools. Kids don’t bother to think for themselves anymore, they want to AI everything. I say this as a middle school teacher English teacher. It’s a problem
Sorry but the biggest thing AI is doing is making humanity LAZY. Your eyeglasses were most likely “finished” by AI from the results of human minds, spirits, and hearts (which AI will never, ever have). As for the app, those things are a penny a million. I’d love to know what AI does for apps or anything else that flesh-and-blood people (which feed the AI in the first place) can’t do.
Too bad you feel that way.
Too bad you feel that way too.
Well, here is another aspect…and is happening now:
https://www.mlo-online.com/information-technology/news/55276148/northwestern-medicine-and-vitestro-collaborate-to-advance-autonomous-robotic-phlebotomy
It’s the parts they’re not telling you abouthat has to watched for. Agenda 2030, anyone?
I remember the old days and
love to listen to my 98 year old dad
talk about growing up on a farm.
We have come a long way.
You had a mat?
I am so old that the first merry go round at the playground, the first one I rode on…..I cannot find a picture of ‘that’ one, its so old.
😎
No such luck. Soccer, baseball, and Track (a field). Of course, some of our exercise was our 1/2 to 3/4 mile walk to and from school.
Brings me back to St. Augustine School in suburban NYC, circa 1972. I shimmied up that rope, palmed the ceiling, and began descending but lost my grip 10-15-ft. from the floor and encountered the knot at the bottom of the rope. Worst testicular demolition that I ever experienced. Terrified that I’d be noticed and mocked in my agony, I sprinted around the gym a few times top speed until the pain subsided. It must’ve appeared like one of those over-the-top end zone celebrations that became a thing years later. It wasn’t a walk in the park back in those days, but we gritted our teeth and went at life full throttle.
Mine was a “window prop” from Shop. Years passed before my next ‘build’… a water bed frame. Decades later, I built my first log home… which burned down. I built our present one, also of logs. (a long way from a window prop)
Good one!
….or a paperweight made with a rock, some magazine clippings and varnish.
It was used to turn the high beam lights on with your foot.
Yes, way over the hill.
It will be used to control every aspect of your life. There will be no privacy and no freedom.
Actually I have found that AI in ordering online has messed things up that employees have no means to correct just as an example. I have caught AI, ignorant of history, advancing the erasure of history by fudging answers with logic and sadly logic doesn’t always take us to the correct answer. AI is basing much of its decision making off of its unprecedented access to records and many of our records in many fields have massive flaws and overt lies but apparently nobody with a platform cares. I had a hell experience recently with AI now running emergency services and yet everyone seems to think it’s funny that AI is running emergency services or perhaps when I point out issues with AI functioning off flawed records they just are laughing because I’m old and can’t get Tech? Actually I’ve been kinda shocked lately looking around because while some people have careers engaged with saving lives and anti-war at the same time they’re all in on population reduction by whatever means necessary apparently. Love manual chokes BTW.
So, a word to all the other potential 2028 candidates; the decision of who to back will not be made until late in the game.
Game on.
At least I hope President DJT keeps everyone in the dark until the very, very, last minute.
The GOP/MAGA bench is deep and getting deeper every day. I hope that President Trump backs a candidate and doesn’t let the GOPe divide us. DeSantis will most likely be the GOPe candidate and standing alone on that side of the party and on the other side could be 10 great candidates taring into one another, allowing DeSantis to become the front runner.
If Sundance’s concerns about Vance is spot on then the 2028 republican primaries may end up with Vance -v- DeSantis, in other words, heads they win, tails we lose.
DeSantis is as Deep State as you can get? Are you totally unfamiliar with his totalitarian RPOF and all of the MANY things that have gone down in Florida??
You mean heads they win tails they win?
Maybe PDJT is prepping for
The Presidential Apprentice ’28.
Think about it?
Vance
Rubio
RFK Jr
Gabbard
Bondi
You are joking about blondie right? RIGHT? The woman the tried and failed at aura farming Epstein, but just ended up making a mess for POTUS.
Byron Donalds
I think Tulsi Gabbard would make an excellent Madame President.
At least she knows what her job is.
I agree!!! I have always liked Tulsi and now I like her even more. She would definitely be an excellent President!
and she’s honest, loyal and strong!
Ditto!
I am going to suffer for saying this — but a woman should not be President. Look at all the countries in the world who demean women. Madeline Half-Bright was laughed at by the ME leaders when she was Sec of State — as was Hillary (actually Hill was laughed at by most of the world).
We need a WARRIOR as President — and one with balls. Dont answer me by saying Tulsi has balls, she does not. I think she is great — just not for President.
And as those cabbages grow, hope that the Palantir stock you bought a few months back (on Sundance’s recommendation) also grows in value.
Thank you again, Sundance. Must reading for all.
Thete us likely muvh more than FISA for Thiel to eirk on, including a massive NSA database and 19 intell agencies?
** Regarding our knowledge level **
A good friend has a solid University degree (where we met), top Ivy League school for a flim-flam one-year important sounding grad degree. Teaches college in DC, has followed politics closely for 40+ years, travels extensively, has met Trump and Newsom several times.
– he didn’t know what the SES is
– he thought we would beat Russia
– he seemed confused when I told him the USA, NATO, and EU ammo stockpiles were threadbare
– he suggested we nuke Russia
– doesn’t know about Judge Collyers 99-page legal finding
– seems unaware of Western Europe falling (though he goes there frequently)
– etc
In a bubble in DC! Most people have no idea what is going on in the real world. Sundance and the treehouse are an incredible find!
I don’t mean to be rude. But if your friend is a college professor…….
Well I know all about college professors too
Notice that Sundance puts, Trust God in bold.
The highlight is to put emphasis on the terms.
Trust
God
As it exists today, I trust no one but God. My own beloved mother I trust not nearly as much as I trust God.
I am not beholden to any personality. That includes Sundance, my Pastor, my family or friends. I suggest the same for everyone else.
Mine is not a message rooted in ideology, religiosity, or personal beliefs. It is knowledge and wisdom by which I make my statement.
To that end, I also say to not vote for any incumbent. Nor for any person who had formerly held office to which they were elected or appointed by a political office.
Yes, I know there are some fine individuals in office. I disagree that they ‘deserve’ to be reelected.
This is a new position for me. Formerly I would roll my eyes at those who said, Vote no.
But by their own hand have they shown themselves unworthy, not fit for the office Doing what they should not; not doing what they should: all have acted to betray The People and the Republic.
That chatter of ‘perfect of being the enemy of the good’ is an excuse.
Would you accept that from your wayward child, your spouse, an employee? I should hope not!
If you are beholden to any personality, go stand before the mirror and ask yourself, why? Be serious and honest.
Trust God. More than words, a way of being. The way.
The full phrase is, “Trust God, clean house.”
I’m not clicking on thumbs up because I like it but because I hope every one of them suffer the consequences they are wishing on the President and others.
We need school choice.
God is not allowed in our schools.
Parents need to invest in their children. They won’t though. And don’t tell me they can’t afford it. Many third world parents pay for their children to go to school.
If you have new cars, Netflix, an I Phone, vacations, restaurant meals, convenience foods, more than a few pairs of shoes, etc., you could pull your children from public schools.
The overwhelming majority of parents send their kids to public schools despite boys in girls locker rooms, sex ed, girls being handed birth control or taken to abortion clinics, bullying, school violence, Marxist indoctrination, anti-Christian indoctrination, grade inflation, dumbed-down curriculum, widespread illiteracy and innumeracy, etc.
Or, it grieves me to say, in many, many churches.
“God is not allowed in our schools”? You make God sound like some dweeb not allowed into the cool kids club.
By all means don’t surrender your family to the education machinery without a fight.
Ted Cruz Lite
I happen to hate cabbage. Brussel sprouts, cauliflower, beets and rutabagas too.
Same here…With the exception of pickled beets and sauerkraut on my Nathan’s hot dog…
Cabbage is for slaw only
Love cabbage, raw or cooked… the only veggie that I could ‘pass’ on, would be parsnips.
The humble cabbage makes the most tasty things to eat!
Lots of us do and did but I have started cooking with it for a few years now and everybody is loving the smell and asking what is it? Yep, believe it or not. An easy start is bok choy with sesame oil and soy sauce over rice with eggs and bacon but that’s not the dish whose odor got the most positive attention from visitors.
Name changes make sense when you come from an extremely chaotic and dysfuntional family. Especially when there’s numerous step siblings, half siblings, moms new boyfriend is “dad” until he’s gone then being raised by grandparents, aunts, etc.
Believe me, my family is a mess and there have been name changes.
Plus it wasn’t random. His mother’s maiden name was Vance, and he was primarily raised by her parents. The previous name changes were made by his mother.
His lack of stability growing up is another argument against him. I think BO had some serious issues related to his upbringing that shaped his character and beliefs.
We are not to be judged or limited by the sins of our parents.
He was born James Donald Bowman in Middletown, Ohio, on Aug. 2, 1984, his middle and last names the same as his biological father, Donald Bowman. His parents split up “around the time I started walking,” he writes. When he was about 6, his mother, Beverly, married for the third time. He was adopted by his new stepfather, Robert Hamel, and his mother renamed him James David Hamel.
When his mother erased Donald Bowman from his and her lives, the adoption process also erased the name James Donald Bowman from the public record. The only birth certificate for Vance on file at Ohio’s vital statistics office reads James David Hamel, according to information provided by the state.
Beverly kept the boy’s initials the same, since he went universally by J.D., Vance explains in the book. He didn’t buy his mother’s story that he was named for his uncle David, though. “Any old D name would have done, so long as it wasn’t Donald” (Name of bio Dad)
Vance spent more than two decades as James David “J.D.” Hamel. It’s the name by which he graduated from Middletown High School, served in Iraq as a U.S. Marine (officially, Cpl. James D. Hamel), earned a political science degree at The Ohio State University and blogged his ruminations as a 26-year-old student at Yale Law School. Those facts are borne out in documentation provided by those entities upon request, or otherwise publicly available, and were confirmed by campaign spokesperson Taylor Van Kirk.
But the situation gnawed at him, particularly after his mother and adoptive father divorced.
“I shared a name with no one I really cared about (which bothered me already), and with Bob gone, explaining why my name was J.D. Hamel would require a few additional awkward moments,” he writes in “Hillbilly Elegy.” “Yeah, my legal father’s last name is Hamel. You haven’t met him because I don’t see him. No, I don’t know why I don’t see him. Of all the things that I hated about my childhood, nothing compared to the revolving door of father figures.”
So he decided to change his name again, to Vance — the last name of his beloved Mamaw, the grandmother who raised him.
It didn’t happen on his wedding day in 2014, as the book implies, but in April 2013, as he was about to graduate from Yale, Van Kirk said. It felt right to take the name of the woman who raised him before dying in 2005, as he was putting the struggles of his early life behind him and launching into this new phase.
This is all known about JD if you were paying attention during the runup to the nomination and election. It is good to refresh and remind ourselves about these things as well. The comparison to Obama ends quite quickly after grandparents. JD was not raised by communists, did not pal around with commies, does not claim roots in Africa, was not involved in Chicago politics, was not mentored by a terrorist bomber, etc etc. Peter Thiel is super connected but he is not communist.
Also JD has stepped up with actions, where Obama was words and passive aggressive government coerciveness.
Good points.
Thiel believes in transhumanism and gets transfusions of children’s blood to keep him young. He is not a good person.
Source?
You can type Thiel and transhumanism into the search engine of your choice and read his thoughts on it, watch videos where he discusses it, or read industry media about him and the subject.
As for the blood transfusions… Prior to 2017/18 he openly discussed the use of child blood transfusions and funding the research. Then in 17/18 when the creepiness of the idea and him started being discussed he denied getting transfusions, but still funds the research. Again search engine of your choice.
If you search, you can choose your own sources because everybody and their brother has talked about Thiel and these issues including Thiel.
Where did this information come from?
Don’t have to go to the dark web but the fringe web places that have been posting perpetual alternative reality sites some even still posting Qdrops, there’s alot. I go looking once in awhile just on principle because just because I find it impossible to believe this stuff has been going on for years so traffic is funding these sites (or someone is.). I’m not going to name sites here but it’s true that adrenochrome is available to anyone who wants to buy it but Hunter Thompson in his book “Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas” illuminated that desiccated adrenochrome in capsules does nothing like adrenochrome fresh blood from just tortured children . . . Supposedly fiction but others argue not. Just type a question about perhaps fresh adrenochrome and things will come up and you will need to decide if you believe it. White hats is usually in there somewhere. I was wearing a white hat that I pulled out of my husband’s closet but it seemed EVERYONE was making a political judgment on me I actually started feeling unsafe wearing a white hat to protect from sun exposure – like I might actually get attacked for wearing a white hat so I had to find another color hat. So yes people are really believing on all this and ready to fight that it’s true with only evidence is on internet.
Extraordinary claims should be accompanied by extraordinary detailed and verifiable evidence. Do you have any such proof for your claims or is that too much to ask?
Or go to a search engine yourself and take 5 seconds. There is so much info on this and so many interviews with Thiel where he shares his thoughts on transhumanism you could spend hours. If you are remotely interested rather than trying to play gotcha you will go look.
I am not going to play the game of that’s the NYT, or ABC News, or I’ve never heard of that source, or even though that’s Thiel in the video I don’t like Tik Tok or Bitchute or Glenn Beck (or anyone else talking about him or to him) is crazy. I suspect that’s the game you are playing here.
Look don’t look – I don’t care as I have no intention of voting for the fake Hillbilly with a manicure and a billionaire backer. I also know AI is inevitable and that the technocrats are going to do their best to take control of the planet no matter who we “vote” for in 2028.
You believe in anything. Seriously delusional.
That’s a broad statement – have you made the effort to look up the things that Lulu mentioned?
IMHO, it’s okay if you don’t even want to delve into the subject matter regarding Peter Thiel and transhumanism, blood transfusions, etc. then say that but is it fair to say to Lulu “you believe in anything” and that she is “seriously delusional”?
Regardless of whether these things are true and real it’s very important to know what is going on in people’s minds and be aware of different belief systems around you. Sitrep.
I’d like to add some clarity to the name changes. This information is readily available and was discussed in JD’s book.
1. Born to the marriage between Donald Bowman and Beverley Bowman (nee Vance) he was named James Donald Bowman.
2. Donald Bowman and Beverly divorced when JD was six years old, a time he identifies as the saddest day of his life. Donald mostly was and is out of JD life from this point forward. He writes that he lived with a revolving door of father figures in his young life.
3. Beverly remarries Robert “Bob” Hamel, her third marriage. JD did not “change his name” as we would think of an adult going to the court house and legally his name. Instead, he was adopted by Hamel. His last name was changed as a young boy as a result of the legal adoption. Apparently his mother, wanting to wipe out the middle name of Donald switched the middle name to David. The David was consistent with the nick name J.D. He had been known by. JD addresses in his book that his mother told him the middle name David was that of an uncle. JD did not believe this.
4. JD’s birth certificate bears the name of James David Hamel. This is the name JD went by through high school, through the military and into Yale.
5. The third marriage of Beverly with Hamel ended. Given her drug problems JD and his sister moved in with his maternal grandmother and grandfather, last name Vance. His “mau ma” Vance had a strong influence on his life.
6. JD had lost contact and connection to Hamel, his adoptive father. He had little if any connection to Bowman. Approaching graduation and marriage, and facing the beginning of his professional life, he says he saw no reason to maintain a last name Hamel. He wanted to change his name to Vance , his maternal grandparent’s name. He did this especially, he says to honor his grandmother. This is the name he graduated with, was married with, and registered for the bar exam with.
Thanks for sharing the facts on name change.
Are Thiel or Musk Communists? Is Vance? Are any of the Muslims? If not, I don’t care about his benefactors.
I like Sundance and agree with him a lot, and this article is interesting, but it’s also filled with a lot of inuendo. For example, that picture? I married a Filipina from Manila, R.P., who came with her N. California extended family to MY home down to wed me. I did the same thing Vance did, i.e. wore traditional Filipino garb and executed a sentimental ceremony I felt was absolutely compatible with my Christianity. My picture would not look dissimilar to Vance’s own. The name chances? Uhh … where did he start? Who and where was his dad? His mom? I’m gonna give him a bit of slack on that.
My bottom line is “Trust, but verify”, a.k.a. “I don’t trust anyone”, implicitly, or absolutely. Right now, most of what Vance is saying and doing is great? Vivek? He’s not my first pick, but his support for H1B’s doesn’t immediately alienate me, despite the fact that the H1B sellout ruined my personal, 35 year IT career (and I wasn’t alone). I’m not a “single issue” voter. I’m a “Constitutional Republic” voter.
My biggest concern? It’s the fracturing of the MAGA alliance. I’m not quite a “Reagan big tent” guy, because I’ve seen the corrupt GOP betray both Reagan and his voters for over 45 years. The GOP consistently doesn’t give a damn about the Constitutional, about freedom, about the sacrifice of America blood and treasure for show and profit, and they are doing it even today (I’m looking at you, Idaho’s two Congressmen, and Senators Risch & Crapo). How is driving Thiel and Musk and everyone else the MAGA populists hate, away from the movement, help us preserve our Constitutional Republic? It’s self-defeating. It’s just more GOP SOP. I like Bannon, too, but the list of people who he thinks should be out of MAGA is growing endlessly.
Good Sunday morning from the Visayas.
You are herby found guilty of the crime of making way too much sense.
You haven’t had a constitutional republic in 160 years. Read this:
capitoloccupation.pdf
The incorporated entity presently “operating” as the government is British.
Gotcha! So .. ahh … another Obama or Biden or Clinton or AOC, is WAY BETTER, than another MAGA win with someone like Vance heading the ticket. Go back to Qanon.
Don’t forget another Jimmy Carter or Woodrow Wilson !!
So, are you saying OldSalt should NOT continue to vote for a constitutional republic? That he is wasting his vote? Tilting at windmills? Don’t beat around the bush – Say what is on your mind.
All in4 Freedom is a follower of the Alaskan Judge Anna von Reitz. It’s very involved, lots of reading and it may be correct but I just can’t get myself to go there. The ideas have been around for decades and at one point some of them were actively recruiting my husband and I put my foot down no. It’s another alternative reality to be aware of. I think that Lavoy Finicum and the Bundy Bunch were a part of that group. They aren’t all wrong but I don’t think they’re all right either and Lavoy Finicum isn’t all right since he was shot dead by the feds. Some of the people involved with the Malheur protest just stank of trouble. Like the draw Mohamed contest in Garland Tx also just reeks.
Thanks the constitution is whatever a majority of 5 judges in the Supreme Court says it is. That was firmly established in 1804 Marbury vs Madison
Or whatever county state judge or appellate court days it is
The founders inherited English common law Based not on laws but judicial decisions that became law. They were also huge fans of Montesquieu. A French judge that wrote The Spirit of The Law. That book advocated that every law decreed by a king or passed by a parliament council whatever should be subject to being approved or disapproved by judges.
It’s common in America today. Every time a sensible law is passed; such as no transgender surgery on children anti affirmative action DEI Those laws are often overturned by judges.
In fact, every time a law is passed by a legislators or voted in a referendum the opposition files a lawsuit to overturn the law in court the next day. The lawsuit was prepared and written long before the new law was passed. Ready to be filed as soon as the votes are counted.
500 years later American law follows the Montesquieu system
Lincoln ended the Constitutional Republic.
Sorry, but I think the “Progressives”, a.k.a. Teddy R. and Wilson had a whole lot more to do with it, than Lincoln. The Progressives evolved from Bismark’s 1880’s socialist Germany, which was all the European rage after Darwin discovered that God didn’t exist (i.e. we evolved, were not created, because there’s no Creator to hold us to account anymore), and the German Marx between Darwin and Bismark showed the world, the new Communist way. Everything “all the rage” in Europe quickly migrated to the (East Coast) American elitists, who also loved the new way of socialism. Hence, the great American socialist Presidents, T. Roosevelt, Wilson, and FDR, and all those “old school”, corrupt Democrats who adopted their mantra.
(And, no, I’m not quite as ignorant of American history, as you evidently presume. You’re just plain smarter than I’ll ever be.) 🙄
No need to be snarky and nasty. But you do you I guess…
Actually –
Charles Darwin described himself as an agnostic, stating in 1879 that he had never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a god, and that “an Agnostic would be the more correct description of my state of mind”. He expressed a belief that the universe was not the result of chance, indicating a conviction in some form of underlying principle or first cause.
However, he rejected the idea of a personal God who intervenes in the world, particularly in the context of suffering and natural processes, famously questioning how a beneficent and omnipotent God could have designed creatures like the Ichneumonidae (a species of wasp), which feed on living caterpillars.
His religious believes were similar to those of Thomas Jefferson, Mark Twain and Abraham Lincoln.
Also –
In a major statement of the Roman Catholic Church’s position on the theory of evolution, Pope John Paul II has proclaimed that the theory is “more than just a hypothesis” and that evolution is compatible with Christian faith. In a written message to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the pope said the theory of evolution has been buttressed by scientific studies and discoveries since Charles Darwin. “It is indeed remarkable that this theory has progressively taken root in the minds of researchers following a series of discoveries made in different spheres of knowledge”‘, the pope said in his message Wednesday. “The convergence, neither sought nor provoked, of results of studies undertaken independently from each other constitutes, in itself, a significant argument in favor of this theory“.
The Pope’s message went much further in accepting the theory of evolution as a valid explanation of the development of life on Earth, with one major exception: the human soul. “If the human body has its origin in living material which preexists it, the spiritual soul is immediately created by God”, the Pope said.
– Chicago Tribune (10/25/96)
The first few name changes were not JD’s decision. He was a just a minor. His mother’s choice of male companion determined the first few of JD’s names.
I have trouble believing JD’s mother is part of the grand Bilderberg conspiracy.
What was Obamas name change? I never knew that.
Great article with lots of good info that I will definitely keep in mind. Some things I’m ok with like Vance name change and naming his son Vivek bc that’s a very popular name in his wife’s culture.
aka Barry Sortaro
Soetaro
Barry Soetoro.
Keep trying…..
Vance will bring about the blooming of StableCoin into a $20 Trillion monster with partnership of X and Meta.
We can and will do better than”JD”.. he is a Techzilla ringer..
Glad you came back, Jinxy! We missed you.
Sundance, may The LORD continue to BLESS and Keep you.
May HE continue to grant WISDOM, Strength, and Endurance to you, Sundance!
BLESSINGS!
In The Precious and HOLY NAME of JESUS our LORD and SAVIOR,
AMEN, AMEN, & AMEN
I knew exactly who Sundance was referring too, and Obama never crossed my mind. Thank you for all the great information. I never really liked Vance to begin with and now I’m liking him even less! Obama fundamentally changed our country and we certainly don’t need anymore of that. I don’t like tech at all because I always feel like someone is watching or listening. Liberty and freedom are the most fundamental rights we no longer seem to have!
Excellent work, Sundance. Thank you! X is still a POS. Censoring me 100% because I dare to speak the truth. Musk is a POS too. Trump will buy us some time before the collapse, but there is no doubt that the collapse is coming. God help us all.
I am also still censored 100% off X because I expressed how I feel about H1b visas replacing American workers. Musk is a back stabbing pos who should be watched very closely, imho.
Long article but
worth the read.
Good info. Who will DJT pass the torch to?
WE ARE THE ONES WHO DECIDE WHO CARRIES THE TORCH.
We get to decide via the Republican Primary who we desire for Presidential Candidate.
We are NOT OBLIGATED to choose Trump’s pick.
In fact, it would be better for us if he did not endorse anyone because we need to STOP the reliance on others and become more self reliant and self educated politically.
Any other method will mean we did not wish to keep The Republic.
That is the most refreshing comment I have read in quite a while. Thank you!
🎯
Well, we could be watching Tim Walz at this time…………….
Fair weather friends. So excited last November. Now eating our own.
You can scroll through these comments sections and see the astroturfers representing the various political factions. Lord, how they glow!
with all this info on JD Vance and the other info on Obama from the past stuff you researched, it could be a best selling book … showing how the Uniparty crafts and promotes “unknowns to be President” .
I’m sure many of us just want to know that TRUMP is aware of all this info, and the behind scenes stuff you probably have waiting in the wings.
Nice Job Sundance! You are our go-to guy for giving background Deep State and TECH history for MAGA.
The surveillance prison is being built for ALL OF HUMANITY. They’re, left/right and in between, ALL in on it. Our only hope is federalism and some or all of the individual States stepping up to protect us ALL or all is lost. So far I only see a very few trying to protect their State citizens. Our overlords corporatized the Sovereign People decades ago. To the feds, we are corporate citizens of DC and have only the rights that they give us. The Constitution only applies to the Sovereign People, not corporate citizens.
Watch this:
https://x.com/solari_the/status/1958995986090455179?s=19
This is one of your best-and there have been many. jrd
Although J.D. seems to be following President Trump’s agenda so far, I don’t know how much I trust someone who grew up in Hillbilly land agree as a Catholic convert to put that red Hindu dot on his head to please his wife and her family. Doesn’t he realize her family will never consider him an equal?
It’s funny how you seem to know how his family in law feels. SMH
No different from Protestants Jews other religions being forced to be married in a Catholic Church if they want to marry a Catholic. Especially considering weddings are family affairs. And there was such a contrast in the families.. big rich Indian family contrasted with his.
Indians are obsessed with skin color. Maybe her family considered it worthwhile to have fair skinned grandchildren. Who knows. I’m glad Trump Vance won. But I consider the US government to be the enemy of all Whites. Unlike progressives and conservatives I don’t expect that the US government will ever do anything that’s a positive good.
This article was over at the Burning Platform but wasn’t listed as a Sundance article?
Sundance has always said to take his articles and post them. He doesn’t care if he doesn’t get the credit. That said, I think it in poor taste not to
Why didn’t anyone tap me on the shoulder when i was in kollege? Ugh!
Very very thorough research as usual, with understandable and valuable caveats, points well taken.
The only problem I have with it is that I just can’t believe that people around President Trump and President Trump himself are not aware of the potential problem or that this is not their concern as well. It’s not that obscure. For one thing surely there are perceptive research people around Trump or who support Trump, like Laura Loomer, who stay aware of everything Sundance writes and report it to the Trump team.
But I do have a question, probably revealing my own ignorance or naïveté, but why couldn’t it ALSO BE TRUE, be the case, that Peter Thiel and the whole Palantir enterprise et al, and VP Vance are true patriots who would favor full legislatiive regulations on AI that protects and secures Americans from the seditious AI treachery and security breaches we all we fear.
No, Thiel is a transhumanist. Vance is someone who got tapped and backed by a wealthy benefactor and took the opportunity.
“………..who would favor full legislative regulations on AI that protects and secures Americans from the seditious AI treachery and security breaches …………….”
“Hi!! I’m from the government, and I’m here to help!!”
BBB institutes the ubiquitous AI and makes it illegal for any state to attempt to legislate any problems with AI for 10 years. There’s LOTS of problems with AI including that it’s functioning off our own flawed records without filter or verification and it’s such a problem that I can’t believe that there haven’t been many complaints although to be fair there’s been many articles coming out with warnings about AI based on behavior exhibited by AI. These people already have world domination in their hands. They are behind the no legislation for 10 years on AI and they may be patriots of a kind but probably nothing we recognize as beneficial for us or for humanity. They’re in with those that want population reduction and orwells boot on the face of humanity forever. I think we are a flawed species too but stifling is kin to killing.
I didn’t realize that Vance’s political resume is that thin. Not that a lot of political experience is always a good thing (See: Joe Biden).
I’m curious how Vance ever showed up on PDJTs radar except with techbro assistance.
Don Jr. introduced him to Dad.
I assumed that Vance made it a point to become pals with Don Jr.
Don Jr. was long ago identified as the weak link, by the Sea Island crew.
Don Jr. liked him.
I do not like JD Vance for president in 2028 or anytime soon.
He lacks gravitas or real accomplishments. His meteoric rise does not seem justified.
Is he his own man? I doubt it.
He is simply too young and he has accomplished too little. All we know of him is he speaks well and is in with the techies.
Could it be they set out deliberately to find a promising youth with an Obama like back story to promote to the highest office in the land in exchange for favors? And he responded and sold his soul in exchange for the power?
I like Marco Rubio and Tulsi Gabbard. I see real gravitas there and real accomplishments.
Rubio? Maybe Sundance will do an update bio on him.
He may be saying all the right things now, but he was a turncoat early on.
Shine the light brother, shine the light (you’re not hiding it under a bushel basket)
Bryon Donalds
Its a Big Club
Every time I see that man I think he’s great.
Thats a lot of deep and helpful dot connecting information which some viewers, especially newer ones, need in order to give themselves permission to stop pretending not to notice things and to make informed decisions.
The rest of us have that sensitive gut feeling we built up over many years of paying attention, a.k.a. Spidey Sense and/or a well tuned Bull Sht Detector which usually points us in the right direction.
Nothing has changed because The Truth Has No Agenda…..
People don’t understand something so they immediately assume that it’s bad.
Cue Satan: Relax, Its just a Halloween Costume.
I think I had a devil costume for Halloween many years ago. Actually it was a mask.
Sometimes when people don’t understanding something they immediately assume that it’s good.
Like a ‘vaccine’ or something
If they had pulled that vaccine thing 20+ years earlier they could’ve gotten away with it but they failed to calculate how they destroyed our trust with their greed for decades.
Christian Bible doctrine does not command us to “respect other religions” especially when those are false religions that worship false gods. The First Amendment is not part of Christian doctrine.
The Bible in fact warns us against listening to those who preach other religions. But as citizens we can try to live in peace with those of other religions provided they do not try to interfere in our faith and beliefs.
Which Bible? The Jewish one? Early Christian one? Roman Catholic one? Orthodox Christian one? Various Protestant ones? Scofield Bible many Protestants consider to be heresy?
Most standard 66 book versions of the Bible starting with the King James Version are very close to each other. I prefer and study using the New American Standard Bible (NASB) 1995 edition.
The Scofield Study Bible deserves none of the criticism cast at it. It has helped millions of Christians learn more about Christian doctrine than most churches teach over 50 years of sermons. Its editor and author of the commentary included within its pages, Cyrus Scofield, followed the Dispensationalist approach to understanding the Bible. Dispensationalism is a Christian theological framework for interpreting the Christian Bible which maintains that history is divided into multiple ages called “dispensations” in which God changes and interacts with different stewards in each dispensation to learn and carry His Word forward across the ages.
I love that he loves his wife so much to respect her family. He’s a good husband.
lol, for all we know their ‘marriage’ was a business arrangement between two countries.
Tradition. You get married in the wife’s locale. A wedding is not a religious ceremony, nor a government one.
“Pray for a good winter, but plant lots of cabbages.”
Commen sense. Better yet, plants lot of potatoes to go along with the cabbages.
I like Winsome Earl-Sears. Wish she was in place of Ms Bondi, or VP Vance. Born in Jaimaca, so not President, but VP?
No. When in the line of succession of the Presidency, only native born Americans should be Vice President, Speaker of the House, Secretary of State, etc.
Can’t be VP either.
.
I like her very much as well.
Barack always set off my intuition, the part of me that can sense evil. JD does not, he could go either way. Pray for him and his family, they need it.
Amen.
“Perhaps Vance is a technocratic tool; perhaps he’s a MAGA ally; who really knows”?
We can almost assume that Vance will navigate both sides of the coin. Trust but verify will never get old. 3.5 years more of winning, winning, winning. God bless Treepers.
I trust none of them. I would trust Eric Trump but I don’t think son of the father would win at this time. I would trust another savvy business person but don’t know if there is one who loves America as much as PDJT.
Political and domestic abusers utilize the same tactics to achieve power and control over their ‘victim’. Financial, stalking, isolation and intimidation.
Like I said on another thread, after Trump it’ll back to voting for the politicians who hurt you the least.
Why even bother discussing whether Vance is a good guy or not?
What’s the point?
Well done! Really. Trust nobody, considering everyone.
Seems somebody here was lovin’ him some Thiel when he was backing DeGov in Florida…
Here’s the other guy, Marco, making a couple good points
Marco Rubio Doesn’t Hold Back on Asylum Seekers
Thank you Sundance, I’ve gotten very creepy feelings with Vance recently. He’s effective but I noticed a couple of months ago, Trump seemed to send Vance elsewhere, not so close, not so involved. I still get that feeling.
His acting is good, but Rubio is not acting and has much bigger responsibilities than Vance. Plus Trump has Rubio always there in the office standing behind Trump at the Oval Office with Vance on the other side. I never saw that with Pence behind Trump, but Trump was just an ornament.
I have more observations on Vance. He was interesting during the election but he’s lost his sheen so to speak a few weeks into office. I don’t see any possibility of Vance disobeying his owners. My instinct mostly is spiritual.
Thx
Oops Pence was just an ornament. Sorry
Pence was chosen for Trump by Paul Manafort, CIA and State Department asset with strong influence over the President of Ukraine prior to 2014.
‘ … Trump seemed to send Vance elsewhere, not so close, not so involved… ‘
That’s not the only person, that is serving elsewhere, at different times.
I suppose that someone also knows that there can be (unsaid) national security risks, back up plans,
in play at times.
( sometimes its wise to avoid having the whole cabinet, gathered in one place, at the same time )
hmmm…
I suppose in other times, it can be helpful to have shiny objects (or persons with topics to address elsewhere) located in different places, at the same time to help to split up the news coverage etc.
Maybe it is standard operating procedure (sop)?
hmmm…
For instance, if there is a speech to a joint session of Congress,
is ‘everyone’ of the cabinet, at the same location?
Maybe not?
Maybe a line of succession is good to retain, in case of (not preannounced) emergency?
hmmm….
Brilliant and humbling. Your devotion to the good and the beautiful is inspiring.
There is a slight, slight chance Vance could become President before 2028. Health issues or Trump could decide to step aside early. Many things can happen in 3 years.
For all talking about AI, I hate it, it should have never got through our forcefield of earth. It’s making people dumber and there is so much more evil it will bring. Theil was talking about the anti christ on good terms lately. AI is not of God. And mankind will never know how to control it. They were warned but that humans want the power over it.
But it’s here. The genie is out of the bottle already.
Cue Satan: Relax, it will make your life easier.
Romans 8:28
“All things work together for good…”