I have been asked to recap some of my research into cited formats of what I believe to be criminal conduct, with specific statutes against them. This is the first of my outlines.
DNI Tulsi Gabbard is not a lawyer. While I may be wrong, I find Tulsi Gabbard to be a patriot. Mrs. Gabbard is focused on providing evidence to the DOJ that essentially forces action. I support Tulsi Gabbard’s efforts.
Amid a series of documents released by the Senate Judiciary Committee in 2020 [SEE HERE] there was a rather alarming letter from the DOJ to the FISA Court in July 2018 that points toward an institutional cover-up. [Link to Letter]
Before getting to the substance of the letter, it’s important to put the release in context. After the FISA Court reviewed the DOJ inspector general report about the Carter Page FISA application, the FISC ordered the DOJ-NSD to declassify and release certain communication related to the Carter Page FISA application.
In the cover letter for this specific release to the Senate Judiciary and Senate Intelligence committees, the DOJ (then headed by DAG Rod Rosenstein for all things Russiagate during the Trump administration and Mueller investigation therein) cites the January 7, 2020, FISA court order:
The FISA Court was ordering the DOJ to tell the legislative branch about a letter the DOJ had sent to the FISA Court in 2018.
Prior to this forced release only the FISA court had seen this letter from the DOJ-National Security Division (DOJ-NSD). The DOJ never sent a copy to any relevant legislative committee. The DOJ was only talking to the FISA court about this matter (FISA predicate).
As we walk through the alarming content of this letter, I think you’ll identify the motive behind the FISC order to release it.
First, the letter in question was sent by the DOJ-NSD to the FISA Court on July 12, 2018. It is critical to keep the date of the letter in mind as we re-review the content.
Aside from the date the important part of the first page is the motive for sending it. The DOJ is telling the court in July 2018: based on what they know the FISA application still contains “sufficient predication for the Court to have found probable cause” to approve the application. The DOJ is defending the Carter Page FISA application as still valid.
However, it is within the justification of the application that alarm bells are found. The FISA Court noticed them after they reviewed the Horowitz report. On page six the letter identifies the primary participants behind the FISA redactions:
As you can see: Christopher Steele is noted as “Source #1”. Glenn Simpson of Fusion-GPS is noted as “identified U.S. person” or “business associate”; and Perkins Coie is the “U.S-based law firm.”
Now things get very interesting.
On page #8 when discussing Christopher Steele’s sub-source, Igor Danchenko, the DOJ notes the FBI found him to be truthful and cooperative.
This is an incredibly misleading statement to the FISA court because what the letter doesn’t say is that 18-months earlier Igor Danchenko, also known in the IG report as the “primary sub-source”, informed the FBI that the material attributed to him in the dossier was essentially junk.
Let’s look at how the IG report frames the primary sub-source, and specifically notice the FBI contact and questioning took place in January 2017 (we now know that date to be January 12, 2017):
Those interviews with Steele’s primary sub-source, Danchenko, took place in January, March and May of 2017; and clearly the sub-source debunked the content of the dossier itself. The FBI then hired Danchenko as a Confidential Human Source and paid him $200,000 to keep his mouth shut during duration of the Robert Mueller investigation.
Those interviews with Danchenko were 18-months, 16-months and 14-months ahead of the July 2018 DOJ letter to the FISC. The DOJ-NSD says the sub-source was “truthful and cooperative” but the DOJ doesn’t tell the court the content of the truthfulness and cooperation. Why?
CONTEXT FOR THIS LETTER IN JULY, 2018 – Keep in mind, according to the recently declassified annex to the Durham report we know FBI leadership, Comey and McCabe, refused to allow FBI agents to interview Carter Page until the FISA was renewed (January) and the operation against Trump gained specific enough speed (March) to warrant a special counsel demand.
The FBI eventually interviewed Carter Page on March 9, 10, 16, 30 and 31, 2017. [The FISA was leaked by James Wolfe and Senator Mark Warner on March 17th. FBI Director James Comey then testified to congress admitting for the first time that President Trump was under investigation for Russiagate on March 20th.]
Despite the five interviews, the FBI renewed the FISA application against Carter Page on April 2nd, 2017. Despite the FISA application accusing Carter Page of being “an agent of a foreign government,” Carter Page was never charged with any criminal conduct, including FARA violations.
Also, keep in mind this letter to the court was written by AAG John Demers in July 2018. Jeff Sessions was Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein was Deputy AG; Christopher Wray was FBI Director, David Bowditch is Deputy, and Dana Boente is FBI chief-legal-counsel.
Why would the DOJ-NSD not be forthcoming with the FISA court about the primary sub-source, Igor Danchenko and his admitted statements? This level of disingenuous withholding of information speaks to an institutional motive to frame Donald Trump. This institutional effort was ongoing in July 2018!
By July 2018 the DOJ clearly knew the dossier was full of fabrications, yet they withheld that information from the FISA court, instead saying predicate was still valid. Why?
It doesn’t take a deep-weeds-walker to identify the DOJ motive.
In July 2018 Robert Mueller’s investigation was at its apex.
This letter justifying the application and claiming the current information would still be a valid predicate therein, speaks to the 2018 DOJ needing to retain the validity of the FISA warrant…. My researched suspicion around motive was the DOJ needed to protect evidence Mueller had already extracted from fraudulent FISA authority. That was the motive.
In July 2018 if the DOJ-NSD admitted the FISA application and all renewals where fatally flawed Robert Mueller would have needed to withdraw any evidence gathered as a result of its exploitation. The DOJ in 2018, under the leadership of Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein for all things Russiagate, was protecting Mueller’s poisoned fruit.
If the DOJ had been honest with the court, there’s a strong possibility some, perhaps much, of Mueller evidence gathering would have been invalidated… and cases were pending. The solution: mislead the court and claim the predication was still valid.
This is not simply a hunch, because that motive also speaks to why the FISC would order the current DOJ to release the letter.
Remember, in December the FISC received the IG Horowitz report; and they would have immediately noted the disparity between what IG Horowitz outlined about the FBI investigating Steele’s sub-source, as contrast against what the DOJ told them in July 2018.
The DOJ letter is a transparent misrepresentation when compared to the information in the Horowitz report. Hence, the court orders the DOJ to release the July letter so that everyone, including congressional oversight and the public can see the misrepresentation.
The court was misled; now everyone can see it.
The content of that DOJ-NSD letter, and the subsequent disparity, points to an institutional cover-up; and as a consequence the FISC also ordered the DOJ to begin an immediate sequestration effort to find all the evidence from the fraudulent FISA application. The proverbial fruit from the poisonous tree…. And yes, that forced review fell into the lap of AG Bill Barr.
Moving on…
Two more big misstatements within the July letter appear on page #9. The first is the DOJ claiming that only after the application was filed did they become aware of Christopher Steele working for Fusion-GPS and knowing his intent was to create opposition research for the Hillary Clinton campaign. See the top of the page.
According to the DOJ-NSD claim the number four ranking official in the DOJ, Bruce Ohr, never told them he was acting as a conduit for Christopher Steele to the FBI. While that claim is hard to believe, in essence what the DOJ-NSD is saying in that paragraph is that the FBI hoodwinked the DOJ-NSD by not telling them where the information for the FISA application was coming from. The DOJ, via John Demers, is blaming the FBI.
The second statement, equally as incredulous, is at the bottom of page nine where the DOJ claims they had no idea Bruce Ohr was talking to the FBI throughout the entire time any of the FISA applications were being submitted. October 2016 through June 29, 2017.
In essence the claim there is that Bruce Ohr was working with the FBI and never told anyone in the DOJ throughout 2016 and all the way past June 29th of 2017. That denial is a lie. Once again, the DOJ-NSD is putting the FBI in the crosshairs and claiming they knew nothing about the information pipeline.
Bruce Ohr, whose wife Nellie Ohr was working for Fusion-GPS and assisting Christopher Steele with information, was interviewed by the FBI over a dozen times as he communicated with Steele and fed his information to the FBI. Yet the DOJ claims they knew nothing about it.
Again, just keep in mind this claim by the DOJ-NSD is being made in July 2018, six months after Bruce Ohr was demoted twice (December 2017 and January 2018) by the DOJ. The lie within the letter is clear by the action taken by the DOJ. If what the DOJ was saying is true, well, then the FBI was completely rogue and running an investigation outside the knowledge of the DOJ, while the source of the knowledge, Bruce Ohr, was the #4 ranking official within the DOJ.
Neither option speaks well about the integrity of either institution; and quite frankly I don’t buy the DOJ-NSD spin.
Why? The reason is simple, the DOJ is claiming in the letter the predication was still valid… if the DOJ-NSD genuinely didn’t know about the FBI manipulation, they would be informing the court in 2018 the DOJ no longer supported the FISA application due to new information. They did not do that. Instead, in July 2018, they specifically told the court the predicate was valid, yet the DOJ-NSD knew it was not.
The last point about the July 2018 letter is perhaps the most jarring. Again, keep in mind when it was written Chris Wray is FBI Director, David Bowditch is Deputy and Dana Boente is FBI chief legal counsel.
Their own FBI reports, by three different INSD and IG investigations; had turned up seriously alarming evidence going back to the early 2017 time-frame; the results of which ultimately led to the DC FBI office losing all of their top officials; and knowing the letter itself was full of misleading and false information about FBI knowledge in/around Christopher Steele; this particular sentence is alarming:
“The FBI has reviewed this letter and confirmed its factual accuracy?”
Really?
As we have just shared, the July 2018 letter itself is filled with factual inaccuracies, misstatements and intentional omissions. So who exactly did the “reviewing”?
This 2020 declassification release raised more questions than any other at the time. That is why the judicial branch sent it to the legislative branch for review. Unfortunately, the legislative branch never grasped the importance of why the FISA Court sent them a copy of the letter. More silo dilution.
Here’s the Full Letter. I strongly suggest everyone read the 14-pages slowly. If you know the background, this letter is not only infuriating, but also the purposeful misrepresentations to the court are completely illegal.
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Don’t forget Bruce Reinhart the Federal Magistrate in WPB who signed and authorized the search warrant for Mar-a-Lago behind the back of Judge Cannon who he reports to and worked for knowing she would have rejected it! From what I hear, Reinhart was rewarded by Garland for his actions by promoting him to a federal judge before losing the election!
Judges can be subpoenaed.
And it’s time to claw back the money the lovers got as a pay off.
And fine the politically biased judge who awarded the amount double the amount because he/she deserves punishment for this abuse of judicial power.
They didn’t need money they were saving America from Hitler, Putin lover, Orangeman bad.
The lovers , Stroke and the DOJ woman,. Im fairly sure, the lovers leaked the story of their affair to the press. As a way of explaining the hundreds of txt messages between them. They did this knowing the number of messages was going to be public. They did not know the contents would come out. The contents are all about the Russia Russia hoax., and business, not personal.
Limited Hangout
Clawback all of the money all of them received.
As Stroker would text “Attention Walmart shoppers, our coup has failed”.
It actually worked.
They wasted Trumps first term of four years.
Installed Biden which set us back twenty years.
Then they ask why he didn’t do much in the Trump first term.
There are a lot more than that.
Indeed! I’ll take BO for $500 Alex.
Sharyl Attkinson does a great job breaking down the coup treason against our President Donald J Trump
“Collusion against Trump” Timeline
https://sharylattkisson.com/2023/06/collusion-against-trump-timeline/
Nice find, Colkitto. Sharyl Attkinson was put threw the wringer almost as much as our VSGPDJT. I read threw the whole timeline (1h. 14min.) and she did a remarkable job in detailing what the cabal did to take down a Presidential candidate as well as a sitting President.
I hope Sharyl sent copies to Pam et al so they have a bit more EVIDENCE to convict, try and hang every stinking one of these egotistical bastards.
Very early in in reading that timeline, you wonder why they went after those near the orbit of President Trump well before he even came down the escalator.
Were they targeting any Republican nominee? Or were they setting the table with Page and Manafort such that they would be used against any of the nominees who won?
Further, based on the early FBI history with Page, it suggests they coerced him into working with them. Did they also suggest he work his way into the Trump campaign since it was clear by then he would be the nominee? Same with Manafort.
Or were both working at the direction of the FBI, and some mole inside the campaign?
Meanwhile, the FBI just could not manage to find criminality with Clinton’s server.
“He was telling us the truth [when he told us that all of his information was made-up lies].”
Context is sort of important.
Context is also lacking in the “fine people” hoax among others.
he truthfully informed the FBI it was all bullshit.
This is hard enough to follow for those of us who have been paying attention. How will they present all this to a grand jury? Maybe a timeline of meeting dates, presidential election date, FISA court decisions, inspector general report, special council report, etc. Hopefully, the whistleblowers can fill in the blanks. With enough pressure, maybe one of the higher ups will agree to testify in exchange for a pardon.
Good rundown of the grand jury process here.
https://www.josephabramslaw.com/the-federal-grand-jury-explained/
I always thought a judge presided over a grand jury, but no. Also, indictments are simple majority, not unanimous.
I’m not so sure it will be hard to get indictments, especially if they have the GJ in Miami. As the old saying goes, “You can indict a ham sandwich.”
The beauty of the GJ is the subpoena process. Yes, DNI, DCIA, and DOJ/FBI are declassifying records. But the conspiracy extends beyond this.
For example, it was widely reported that Weissman directed members of the Mueller team to smash their cell phones. And high profile members of the alleged conspiracy have been working hard to delete their Twitter posts. Those posts can be subpoenaed from the platform.
People given time and information are savvier than we give them credit for. And prosecutors can guide them along.
And their crimes were not just against DJT. By attempting to overthrow the elected government, they committed sedition (or treason…since foreign agents were involved) against the entire country.
Everybody makes this about Trump, which isn’t wrong. It just misses the point. The point of the conspiracy was to overthrow a government they did not like.
A GJ is not going to struggle with that.
The REAL point of the conspiracy was TO KEEP the corrupt “government” that was in power at that time.
Yes, the dims/commies hated (still hate) Trump because they knew Trump and the MAGA movement would put an end to the corrupt, deep state controlled, “government”.
Miami (Dade County) Florida is heavily dimocratic… Indicting a “ham sandwich” in this case may not be as easy as we would like for it to be.
One other point: When officers of the Court “guide people along” it is considered “Witness Tampering” by the Court.
Never underestimate the number of stupid people in circulation.
Did they ever release the full list of all the preemptive “pardons” that covered whatever illegal, treasonous actions that were committed by these coup plotters since 2014 were issued by the former Autopen of the United States?
Would the SCOTUS uphold their validity as constitutional regardless of who actually issued them even though their very nature violates the entire meaning of what a pardon is supposed to accomplish – forgiveness for crimes either charged or found guilty of?
If they were to allow this, it’s a get out of jail free card for an obvious coup attempt and set a precedent for any current or future President or Autopen to get away with TREASON and every Justice in the majority on such a decision should be impeached.
Are you arguing that the United States Department of Justice is so incompetent that it accidentally lied to a federal court for 18 consecutive months?
Are you seriously contending that the DOJ repeatedly misled a federal court by sheer coincidence?
Is your defense that the nation’s top law enforcement agency accidentally committed fraud upon the court for a year and a half?
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A specific group of conspiring individuals in a 120,000 person agency did.
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And I bet there was an even larger group that knew what that specific group was doing yet said nothing.
I saw a lovely quote recently.
‘All lawyers are not corrupt – it’s the 95% who give the others a bad name’
“What’s a “Good Start”?
A “Good Start” is: 95 lawyers on the bottom of the ocean…
YUP! And you forgot the /sarc tag. If you didn’t forget the /sarc tag then you really need a CTH primer.
It all sort of comes back to the intentions of the Founding Fathers for a vastly smaller and less powerful, limited federal government.
brennen and comey did what they had to get Mueller in (investigate, find, and prosecute anything
timeline visual help
the insurance policy was Misfud and Papadopoulous
Im still wondering where Misfud ended up…. He went deep silent quickly
I remember the story that Nellie was using CB radio for her communications, what happened to that.
Sweet Nellie. HAM radio 📻
Wasn’t there something about a ham radio operator’s license, too? Or at least talk about it?
Her hubby, Bruce Ohr (?) was the go between and he looks like someone that if you squeezed, he’d spill a lot of beans.
She used HAM comms, not CB. Do a search here to find the relative posts by Sundance.
I had a long day cuttin’ and splittin’ wood.
THOR III OUT!
I must have missed a few days at CTH school. I do not remember reading anything about the FISA court requesting release of this letter. I made a comment a couple days back on how I though the FISA court was lacking discernment in regard to what at that time was being submitted to them I was wrong. They were lied to.
Don’t let them off the hook too soon.
It’s Official, The FISA Court is Compromised – Presiding Judge James Boasberg Hires Former DOJ-NSD Head, Mary McCord, as Amici Curiae to Advise The Court
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/04/28/its-official-the-fisa-court-is-compromised-presiding-judge-james-boasberg-hires-former-doj-nsd-head-mary-mccord-as-amici-curiae-to-advise-the-court/
Sundance, I find this fascinating.. considering that initially you had been rather skeptical of Gabbard’s boni-fides. Kudos to you for seeing her as a true patriot! She’s the real deal.
Tulsi is: so far so good. Just my opinion.
@Sundance, what role did Jeff Sessions play in this? Did he naively step aside, or was he in on it?
I think he was in over his head.
You are putting it kindly.
That’s a good question. Was he Mike Pence or was he naïve? He had been in DC a long time…
Sessions was the dims/commie’s “insurance policy” in conversations at that time..
Did Nellie Ohr write these reports?
If not…who did?
Inquiring minds because it took a lot of coordination to weave the lies into a “factual” document…
Was Jeff Sessions a dupe or a mole? Without him stepping aside, all things Trump wouldn’t have ended up in the lap of Rosenstein.
He was blackmoled.
So, blackmailed to become a mole? That tracks…
Sundance! YOU are AMAZING and a BLESSING to ALL!
Thank you for being an inspiration and teacher for me!
Love you, MAGA Brother!!
👊👊🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️🇺🇸🇺🇸
Lisa…. After a long day, it’s so nice to read the lovely affirmations you write. Don’t think they haven’t been noticed by all. ❤️
Skanky Debbie Wasserman Schultz is getting mighty paranoid. Yes, they really are out to get you.
Google AI tells me that wilfully making a false statement under oath to a judicial proceeding is perjury. The information outlined in this post’s excellent overview sure looks like a whole lot of perjury by a whole range of people. Of course the actual perjurer
Google AI also tells me there is NO statute of limitations for perjury.
Seems like this perjury, I assume Rosenstein and maybe others, would be a good place to start launching some criminal proceedings.
The perjurer will of course blame everyone feeding him the information. The people providing the information will likely say Rosenstein knew the truth. And voila, we have people lying bout a conspiracy keeping any conspiracy charges within the statute of limitations.
Either way, Sundance identifies a really good place to start launching serious legal proceedings for perjury.
it’s also the get out of jail card for the judges who can just say – it’s not our fault we got the decision wrong – we were lied to.
My guess is that the smaller private sector players, Steele & Fusion (Simpson & Nellie Ohr) will be least likely to be able to afford to defend the case and will be most likely to cooperate for immunity. That would put Perkins and the Clinton campaign in the cross hairs.
Be prepared for many “accidental” drownings, plane crashes, suicides by gun on the wrong side of the head, ambushes on the streets of D.C. (ala Seth Rich). They need to tread very carefully here.
“The court was misled; now everyone can see it.”
“…the purposeful misrepresentations to the court are completely illegal.”
Yet the court appears to believe they are so routinely misled, the best they can do is demand DOJ release a letter?
And would they then expect DOJ/FBI honesty and integrity to improve?
Any chance this Striking Force of Nature at DOJ can have a chat with Demers?
“While I may be wrong, I find Tulsi Gabbard to be a patriot. ”
You are not wrong about Ms Gabbard.
Just before Sundance’s “Moving on…” statement, above, he references the following extremely important directive from the FISC court that gets exactly zero attention in the current discussions of Russia-gate, the greatest political scandal in the history of the United States:
“…as a consequence the FISC also ordered the DOJ to begin an immediate sequestration effort to find all the evidence from the fraudulent FISA application.”
I am certain that what the FISC court is referring to as “evidence [collected] from the fraudulent FISA application[s]” — with regard to which the DOJ was ordered to “begin an immediate sequestration effort” — is all the information gathered not only from the surveillance of Carter Page, but also the information gathered by the FBI as a result of the “Two Hop Rule”, which allows them under the FISA rules to completely surveil everybody that Page communicated with while the warrants were in force, and EVERYBODY THAT THOSE PEOPLE COMMUNICATED WITH. In effect, two hops.
I have tried to make these explanations in these comments before. The two-hop-rule is intended to cast a huge net of surveillance upon a vast number of people who might in any manner be involved with or associated with the original surveillee — Page.
Just think of how many people could have been caught-up and surveilled by the FBI as a result of the four FISA warrants that spanned an entire year. It would include hundreds or even thousands of people in the Trump orbit. And it is the records and information about this broad surveillance net that the FISC court ordered the DOJ to find and sequester, immediately.
My question is this: Where the hell are the records? Where is the list of people that the FBI surveilled under the two hop rule? Where are their records of the surveillance? Where are their notes and data logs? Who in the FBI carried out this surveillance? What manner of surveillance was undertaken? Phone taps? Photographs? Tailings? Computer surveillance? Texts and emails? What exactly did they find from this huge, unprecedented surveillance effort? Whose fourth amendment rights have been horrendously violated?
If this information ever sees the light of day, America’s collective mind will be blown to smithereens. I guarantee it.
Excellent observation, Uwungelema. This goes so deep, it is simply anti-American! It shows how they don’t care about who they harm. An everyday American who is just going about his/her own life can be upended very easily. And, then of course, we haven’t even gotten to J6. This Page surveillance was a precursor to that.
This was not merely to get Trump. The Steele “dossier” was designed to allow for prosecutions of others also, and there are probably other FISA warrants we are unaware of that also used the “dossier” in whole or in part.
The following entities were unsuccessfully targeted by federal / international law enforcement and written about by Glenn Simpson and his wife while they worked for the WSJ (mid-1990’s to 2009), and also discussed in the dossier or congressional testimony relating to this investigation:
Semyon Mogilevich (a Ukrainian, who every investigator of former soviet crime is or should be familiar with)
Felix Sater (Trump connection)
Bank of New York / Glencore (just happened to be doing a business deal with Rosneft, then with Hunter Biden’s CEFC)
Benex
Paul Manafort / Davis Manafort’s Ukraine consulting
Alfa Group/ Mikhail Fridman
Rosneft (US counsel King Spalding / Christopher Wray)
William Browder
Dmytro Firtash
Oleg Derispaska
Carter Page as allegedly offered $13 Billion US dollars in stock.
Add to this Jill Stein and 96 year-old Lyndon LaRouche being included as communicating with Moscow.
They worked with the feds to craft the documents they needed to go after their targets. Kevin Clinesmith was only one of many.
The letter IMO is an attempt to justify how to frame not a ham sandwich, but instead a turd……couple of questions that the FISA court could/should have asked in reviewing the surveillance application: 1. Is the FISA request about Candidate #1 being a foreign agent aligned with Russia, or is this “research” about nothing more than trying to discredit Candidate #1? You state Source #1 and his information as reliable; why have you not vetted/proven either, especially noting that Source#1 was on record as not wanting to see Candidate #1 win and was hired by those linked to the opposing candidate?……FISA denied….
Excellent analysis Sundance.
PBS’s “Frontline” (yeah, I know, PBS…) did a documentary on the Mueller investigation which is probably now debunked with this new information. PBS should be forced to do a “correction” documentary based on Sundance’s work.
When the FBI states “on page #8 when discussing Christopher Steele’s sub-source, Igor Danchenko, the DOJ notes the FBI found him to be truthful and cooperative,” they leave it to be interpreted as the justification for the FISA warrant is still valid.
However, by stating the sub-source was truthful they leave out what he was truthful about.
He was truthful when he said the info was BS.
They left out the BS part.
I have said it before, each one of these treasonous traitors should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law with extreme prejudice added to that.
So, anyone want to bet this “fruit from the poisonous tree” that was clawed back, supposedly by Barr was still leaked to James and that is why/how she brought the fraudulent tax case in New York?