Interestingly, yesterday I posited some random thoughts about accountability on Teh Twitter, noting that a few dozen random accounts know more about Russiagate individually than any person who has ever sat in a room with President Donald Trump. [FWIW – The author of this story I’m highlighting agreed.]
Miranda Devine notes in a New York Post article (Murdoch publication), polling shows more people are following the declassification of Russiagate documents than ever before [READ HERE]. That’s both a good thing from the perspective of an enlarged awakening but also holds a serious downside if people are focused on the delivery of accountability.
The series of documents declassified by the DNI (Gabbard), CIA (Ratcliffe) and FBI (via Grassley) has not changed the arc of the story; but they have provided strong evidence to support what was already obvious.
Essentially: the Clinton Campaign and the U.S. Intelligence Community, particularly the FBI, conspired together to exonerate Clinton from her email scandal, and frame Donald Trump as a Russian asset to assist her election win in 2016.
Everyone who has walked the deep weeds of Russiagate/Spygate has essentially known this framework for seven or more years. The DNI, CIA and FBI evidence is providing receipts for the operation as it unfolded. The latest evidence has proven the conspiracy researchers accurate, and the corporate media participants who participated in the ruse are not happy.
Miranda Devine breaks down the data on who is following the story and what the releases have done to squash the defenses of those who tried to label the Clinton/FBI operation as conspiracy theory. All of this is a very positive outcome and a greater percentage of the public are now aware.
However, there’s a downside as a result of those who are new to these discoveries. Even more people are thirsting for accountability for the conduct, and those who are very familiar with the story are renewing expectations of criminal activity against the perpetrators of the fraud.
Those who carried out the operation did not leave a trail of signed documents outlining their misconduct. There is no one single element of the very complicated story that provides a ‘gotcha’ moment. Instead, there is an assembly of mounting evidence that showcases how the fraud was perpetrated. Each document release adding more layers of corruption to the pile of fraud as it was manufactured.
The Clinton campaign knew what they were creating. The Obama White House knew what was happening. The CIA could see what the Clintons and her FBI/DOJ allies were assembling, and the FBI was a willful participant. All of this is not refuted, despite the Gordion knot of plausible deniability they wrapped it in.
The problem for the Trump White House is not that Clinton and the IC collaborated to frame Donald Trump in 2016. The problem for the Trump White House in 2025, which now becomes a problem for the Dept of Justice, is that a large portion of the American public expect some form of legal accountability for it.
Absent of criminal liability, people with increased knowledge get angry at the lack of accountability. Simultaneous with this increased knowledge, people are susceptible to the influence of outrage voices amplifying the criminal accountability demand. It’s a precarious position for the White House and Dept of Justice.
If the Trump administration does not ‘punish’ the perpetrators, they run the risk of losing electoral support. However, when you look carefully at how the fraud was perpetrated, the criminal aspect is a very challenging hurdle.
The overarching defense of the perpetrators pertains to the baseline of the fraud itself, which is, essentially, that candidate, then President-elect and eventually President Trump was compromised by Russia.
The Obama White House, FBI, CIA and aggregate IC claim they were investigating whether Donald Trump and members of his administration were taking action to the benefit of a foreign adversary, Russia. Outwardly, President Obama famously warned his officials to make sure all things within their investigation were done “by the book.”
When the CIA or FBI failed to brief Trump-allied Republicans (ie. Devin Nunes), their justification is they were investigating something “sensitive” to the national security of the nation, and therefore unprecedented measures were taken.
Sure, you can argue the officials at the top of the CIA, FBI, DNI and DOJ knew Trump-Russia was nonsense, but how do you prove it… I mean, really prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Even with the mounting declassified releases, you end up in the Horowitz/Durham conundrum, saying “they should have known.” Unfortunately, that’s not criminal.
The CIA or FBI leadership lied to congress, misled congress or were “less than fulsome’ with congressional oversight. Again, they fall back on the unprecedented approach and sensitive national security threat – that’s the shield. Yes, we did not answer the question(s) accurately -even honestly- to the U.S. govt., because we were investigating the U.S. govt.
In these matters of potential national security compromise, the CIA can easily lie to congress and then claim the lie was necessary to protect the government against the threat, and the investigation thereof. The ‘we had to lie’ scenario.
All of the players within the fraud end up carrying some form of plausible deniability, so long as the originating context for the investigation remains valid, even if it is tenuously valid. Something akin to ‘we saw Russian intel intercepts outlining a potential plan by Clinton, but there was also the potential of the Trump-Russia collusion being real’, so we had to look into it…. and we did it, “by the book” where there was no “book” to guide us.
Those legal defenses, while frustrating to accept – and almost entirely based on lies, are valid and purposeful when outlined in legal proceedings. Unfortunately, that legal defense seems to cover all of the 2015/2016 and even early 2017 participants.
Keep in mind, Inspector General Michael Horowitz conducted three investigations with only one criminal referral, Kevin Clinesmith. [(1) IG investigation of Clinton emails. (2) IG investigation of FBI conduct in Clinton investigation, and (3) IG investigation of FISA abuse (Carter Page)]. Additionally, Special Counsel John Durham investigated the origin of Trump-Russia and was never able to penetrate any of the top names for criminal accountability.
All four of these extensive investigations end up as defensive legal shields against any indictment, and the media is already using them to full value. Factually, all those previous investigations create significant “reasonable doubt.”
Intwined inside this legal Gordion knot is the problem for the current Dept of Justice.
Making matters worse still, in a little-known court filing, which has not had enough scrutiny, the President Trump DOJ told the FISA Court in July 2018 that predication for the investigation of Carter Page was valid [SEE HERE].
If the Donald Trump Dept of Justice was saying the warrant against Carter Page was legally valid in 2018, a full two years after the FBI began investigating the Trump-Russia collusion, then how can the Donald Trump 2025 Dept of Justice claim the investigation of Donald Trump was invalid.
We essentially watched any hopes for Russiagate legal liability melt as a result of that July 12, 2018, letter. Which, stands on soapbox, is exactly why I was shouting about it when the letter was finally revealed FIVE YEARS AGO.
The Trump DOJ wrote the letter to the FISA Court after Inspector General Michael Horwowitz released his highly critical investigative findings into the Carter Page FISA application. The Trump DOJ told the FISA Court that despite the information from Horowitz the application was properly predicated. THIS IS IN 2018!
Keep in mind this letter to the court was written by AAG John Demers in July 2018. Jeff Sessions was Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein was Deputy AG; Christopher Wray was FBI Director, David Bowditch is Deputy, and Dana Boente was FBI chief-legal-counsel.
[SOURCE]
As you can see, there are a myriad of defenses for the Russiagate conspirators to draw from, including defenses directly from the Trump administration. Which brings me to the final two points.
For President Trump the most dangerous part of this entire storyline is pushing an expectation that criminal indictments could be possible. Instead, the possibility of criminal accountability is almost non-existent. Expectations need to be managed. Because if people get their hopes up and then nothing happens the collapse in morale could be politically devastating.
I am open to hearing counter opinions established in solid framework; however, based on current evidence, from my perspective the only people who potentially show any signs of legal accountability are the ones who come along AFTER Robert Mueller and Andrew Weissmann begin their 2017 coverup operation.
The court of public opinion is the venue for the rest.



SD, I get your take that no one will pay the consequences criminally. What about civil suits to take their wealth?
break em.
Without truth, accountability and justice our country will continue to crumble into oblivion.
The lying MSM must be eliminated. That, and the 2-tiered justice system we have will be continue to be the weapons for our implosion as soon as DJT leaves office.
Weak and who funds against the opposition’s “USAID”.
Even if not convicted make every single one of them go through the process of being arrested, perp walked, spending millions on lawyers, etc…
If nothing else, suck the Dem donor coffers as dry as possible. Break ActBlue too.
Certainly there were other crimes that can potentially be prosecuted. How does Hilary get a complete wash. Someone needs to be broken. Obama just proveably lied in recent interviews.
Easy!!!!
BioClandestine
I see many people asking when arrests will happen.
The answer is, when the public are ready.
Trump and his team are not declassifying these Russiagate revelations just for fun. The public have to be briefed BEFORE high-profile arrests.
The public MUST be aware and prepared for what is going to happen, otherwise the shock and backlash could be catastrophic and a legitimate threat to NATSEC. Civil uprisings, riots, chaos, etc. (Getting rid of USAID was important to mitigate this and prevent nationwide Soros-funded riots).
The public MUST understand WHY these people are being arrested. The public have been conditioned to trust and believe in many of these people, and the psychological blow is going to be extremely difficult to stomach for millions. They will deny, reject, lash out, etc., and this phenomenon on a large scale could have significant ramifications.
Trump and his team have mechanisms to accurately measure/gauge public perception, and they have a realistic timeline in mind for when public arrests will be feasible.
As for when that will be, I have no idea. I just stick to what we can control, and what we can control is spreading the word as much as possible, continuing to show all the facts related to Russiagate and the ongoing coup against POTUS, and do our part to move the needle of public perception.
Our mission is to combat the propaganda from the corrupt MSM, awaken/guide the public, and win the in the court of public opinion.
We were created for this moment.
The normie public is conditioned by the deep state use of Manufacturing Consent with lies.
The truth doesn’t need manufacturing but the process of gaining acceptance requires the same strategy that is used to push propaganda because the society is pre-conditioned with lies.
Whats a normie.
The very idea of such a term strikes me as ironic, considering the subject matter in which the term is used.
Thank you…..
My thought also.
👩🏫 👩🏫 Educate…Educate…Educate!
I think people can handle far more than “they have to be spoon fed to handle the truth” lie.
The reason you believe that is because you base it off past situations of rioting and destruction caused by Antifa, Minorities, and Liberals who were ALLOWED to run amok by Democrats in power.
They were also highly supported by corrupt politicians, corrupt LEO and the Deepstate to riot. This included millions in financial backing from Soros and USAID to NGO’s to facilitate the uprising and mini color revolutions.
Just look what happened to the riots in LA over ICE enforcement when Trump threatened to go after those funding the money and arrest them. Their paid for riots INSTANTLY died out.
Newsome and the DEI dike sent the signals for them to riot and destroy but Trump brought in the NG and destroyed their plan.
The fact is the American people can handle the truth without having to be spoon fed.
Any rioting liberals mad about Obama in prison can be dealt with swiftly and share a cell with him.
Perfect and spot on
I’ve repeatedly implored everyone here disgusted with the timeline/process to be patient while everyone else catches up
We’re all angry and frustrated over stuff that should be in the rearview mirror, but imagine the potential backlash, for example, of Trump having to explain to those clueless and uninformed how he (Trump) is enabling the “enemy” (Putin) to dissemble all manner of mayhem PREVIOUSLY UNKNOWN, conjured and conducted by our very own institutional employees, disguised, subsidized, and quartered by globalist proxies.
Just ask Kristi Noem shooting her hunting dog after it killed her neighbor’s chickens and bit her when she intervened
We only have one chance to get this thing right, otherwise we’re just a bunch of outrage merchants Sundance so presciently warned us about
I still have not heard B. Hussein Obama deny his involvement.
“Those who carried out the operation did not leave a trail of signed documents outlining their misconduct. There is no one single element of the very complicated story that provides a ‘gotcha’ moment. Instead, there is an assembly of mounting evidence that showcases how the fraud was perpetrated.“
This is no different from any murder case where the murderer gets rid of the murder weapon.
Kohlberger is the latest example of somebody convicted by all the surrounding evidence and yet no murder weapon.
There is enough surrounding evidence that the “signature” or “murder weapon isn’t needed.
Also the one thing I think you’re not taking into account is any of the key players becoming witnesses.
The witnesses that become rats in this case to save themselves are far more valuable to the prosecutor than pieces of paper.
It only takes one Andy McCabe to bring the whole thing down.
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Spot on.
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Comey seems like the weak link to me. I mean he got fired by Trump early in 2017.
He’s definitely neck deep and he’s extremely tall.
The first one to start singing gets total immunity.
Only one immunity card period.
Who wants it?
God bless you Sundance for clearly and honestly presenting the truth.
Truth can be ugly and can cause much heartache, but knowing the truth is still the best path.
MAGA will not win in 2028 with no retribution. Vance, Rubio, etc may win but it won’t be a MAGA coalition. It will be back to the standard GOP voting block.
B.S.
And Sally thats what the Rhino’s are hoping for unfortunately.
I don’t believe that. Trump is still doing the things we hired him to do. We must always be diligent in investigating whom we vote for. And we make mistakes. That’s how this works.
That will only happen if the hopium keeps getting shoveled in like heroin and the eventual crash occurs.
President Trump ran on a helluva lot more than simply retribution, which he is delivering in truck loads, against ever increasing resistance by those who stand to lose $$$.
There is absolutely no one at this moment in time, who has what President Trump has, to carry MAGA forward in 2028. All you have right now is a very crowded Donald Trump Coattail.
I’ve followed the story since the beginning. Everything (on both sides) is theater. Outrage is the fundraising mechanism. I’ve stopped following every detail. If anything more than a strongly worded letter is added to their HR file, I’ll be shocked.
I’m not aware of any “we had to lie” exceptions to the perjury statutes. Minimally, lying and failing to follow Woods procedures seems like obstruction of justice.
Unless it’s the “All Purpose UniParty Get Out Of Jail Free Card” known as “National Security.”
I think many laws were broken, but not prosecutable in current DC courts.
The “I was just a good soldier following orders” defense got overturned at the Nuremberg Tribunals after WW2.
Well, as they say…… Let the Process be the Punishment !
That said, if they venture forth with grand juries, indictments and actual court prosecutions, what will be the political downside if there are no convictions ??? Will the “process” have been worth it ?
And what about the possibility that people might flip on one or another and start testifying, and bringing others down ? Is that a real possibility, or just another pipe dream ?
True. And furthermore, what resources are we “wasting” when there are very important things to be attending to.
Exactly this, GW!!
Let the process take them down by emptying their pockets at the very least.
And those of Dem donors / ActBlue
GW, with regard to your questions I think it is a very real possibility.
Poo poo, make the case against the perps present the evidence to the jury and let them decide . Done, we cannot let any of them off the hook…
Exactly. Looking for perfection? It ain’t there and never will be. Maybe SD knows we don’t have any lawyers with the skill and savvy to prosecute.
Cogent and eye-opening points I was not aware of. Real conundrum of a catch-22 , especially vis-a-vis we
who wish the President well and TRUE success without putting blinders on regarding the unsolvable nature of it all and not falling into the Tik-Tok Hope porn that Trump has got all the conspirators right where he wants them, and it’s all part of his master plan🙄.
Truth has no agenda regardless of our feelings…
Prayers for the POTUS full conversion and prudence ,strength and wisdom to do the right thing on all fronts…
FOX News is reporting on air that DOJ orders prosecutor to take evidence to grand jury relating to 2016 Russia Hoax
🚨 BREAKING: A grand jury has just been ordered to investigate the Trump-Russia Collussion Obama Deep Staters.
Criminal indictments possible.
They are using Tulsi Gabbard’s files.
If this is brought before a grand jury, criminal indictments are guaranteed.
Hopefully Barbie Bondi is finally feeling the pressure to do something besides pose on Fox News.
The Trump DOJ is currently batting “0.000” on this topic.
Same with voter fraud.
A DC grand jury?
You have an excellent point.
I think that would be taken into consideration after all this time.
I would bet the grand jury would be somewhere other than DC.
If it’s in DC, a city overwhelmingly Democrat will not likely lead to any criminal charges.
Saw that. Unnamed prosecutor, Unnamed district, Unnamed perpetrators…
AG Bondi did the first step …
Didn’t mean that in a bad way. Hopefully it’s not in DC. I would have liked some names but I can be patient 🙂
Hopefully Southern District of Florida
It’s better they remain unnamed.
The left would move to target them, dox them, harass them etc.
They need to be able to do their job without the lying media and faux outrage politicians hindering them.
A five year RICO investigation that breaks all the players might do the trick.
Paging Rudy…….
With no disrespect to Rudy, he is extremely senile.
He couldn’t do much in all reality.
Matt Gaetz would be a better choice.
Rudy is an example of how lawfare can ruin someone’s entire life
Correct.
My point is that he’s to senile to lead a RICO case as he did when he was younger and sharp minded.
Sobering analysis. But it seems to me 3 things still pertain:
There are a number of instances of obvious perjury to Congress by several players like Brennan and Clapper. Just as the law never got Capone for murder, they still got him for tax fraud. So go after any and all of these weasels for ANYTHING that they might be liable for.Im persuaded that while it might be difficult to convict on specific action individually, it should be possible to pursue seditious conspiracy based on tne combination of various actions taken.The Left punishes thru the process. They charge and sue even though they know it will ultimately fail. I say charge them all and force them to spend millions defending themselves.Surely there are some bright and clever legal types on our side of the aisle who can figure out ways to assess accountability!
There will be justice. No worries as God is in control. Patience…..
The good news is that everyone can now see that Democrats and Rino’s tried to overthrow the government. The bad news is that since no one will be held accountable, they’ll double down as soon as they can.
That’s the inevitable outcome. They become more outrageous with their behavior when nothing stops them. It’s how we got to where we are now, an invasive species destroying everything in their path to power.
However, now that people are aware they are more likely to see through the antics of the Uniparty.
Disgust will grow and lead to some fashion of cleansing.
BioClandestine!!!
Even though Russiagate was one of the most egregious crimes ever committed, it pales in comparison to what they did in 2020.
After the Russia hoax failed, they quickly transitioned to Covid.
Tulsi already confirmed in May that she was looking into C19 origins. She knows.
Once the public have digested Russiagate, have seen that a Deep State exists, and have seen that the MSM are corrupt, they will be more willing to believe the disturbing revelations about Covid.
Then once the public are told the truth about the man-made origins of Covid, why Fauci’s pardon begins in 2014 (Ukraine), mail-in ballots, 2020 election fraud, etc., the masses will be demanding justice, not just here in the US, but worldwide.
We aren’t talking just treason and sedition, we are talking international crimes against humanity, which is an entirely different ballgame. It would likely be above the jurisdiction of the DOJ, and there are other countries’ militaries who have been demanding justice for C19, namely Russia, who directly alleged Obama, Clinton, Biden, and Soros, are the main “ideologues” responsible for the creation of C19 and the US bioweapon network. The same people who Trump alleged is behind the Russia hoax.
Trump and Putin both want to prosecute the same people. If you think Trump and Putin have never talked about this, you are mistaken. As for how it all shakes out, we will have to wait and see, but we will have to cross this bridge eventually.
I hope against hope that the blame can be laid at their feet where it belongs, along with the CCP. However many want to blame the USA for ALL, and here I think I need a better understanding of some of the tarrifs, as they appear to go well beyond recipricol tarrifs, and BRICS is all about limiting the power of the the US as a bully.
DOJ is moving forward with a grand jury probe.
Bondi ordered an unnamed federal prosecutor to initiate legal proceedings, and the prosecutor is expected to present department evidence to a grand jury to secure a potential indictment, according to a letter from Bondi reviewed by Fox News Digital and a source familiar with the investigation.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-launching-grand-jury-investigation-russiagate-conspiracy-allegations
According to Fox this is NOT a special prosecutor but a regular Federal Prosector being given
power to bring this to Grand jury (nationwide) they are not sure where this is being brought to
as the Federal prosecutor is unnamed. They didn;t know if it was DC , FL or elsewhere..
“I don’t recall” should, in this instance, be considered a confession…
Breaking News!!!
“DOJ Announces Grand Jury In Russia Hoax Probe”
“DOJ Orders Grand Jury In Russia Hoax Probe”
“Bondi Signs Order For Grand Jury In Russia Hoax”
Source: FNC, The Will Cain Show, 08/04/2025, ~4 PM ET
https://thetvapp.to/tv/fox-news-channel-live-stream/
Fox news is reporting that AG Bondi has now sent info over to some
unnamed Federal Prosecutor to bring to a grand jury in this whole
Russiagate .. they didn;t know exactly the people named in any possible
indictment except to say it won;t be POTUS Obama due to the immunity thing
but apparantly a one page document she signed today.This is not a special
prosecutor and they are not WHERE in the country this is taking
place (where this Federal Prosedutor is located)
RICO, bypasses all that pesky “proof beyond a doubt”. They better get these traitors, or it will be a free for all, because too many are outraged over the lies and treason. The traitors can’t use our own laws, that they broke, to protect themselves. There’s laws against that, too. As a matter of fact, there are enough laws on the books to destroy the real insurrectionists. They used those laws against the J6ers who were set up in a frame job by THEM! There is still sedition and an active insurrection happening right now. This is war. If we don’t take these traitors down, they will start WWIII. If they had their way, it would have already started.
Agree as an overview.
In addition, the situation(s) with
-the c c p infiltrations
-the u k r corruptions
-us corruptions and illegal migrations / deportations
-high national debt
-economy
-crime ridden areas
are likely integrated, with a preponderance of evidence, with the u.s. traitors
and as such, an effective ‘art of a deal’
could likely utilize corrective measures
so that trust in ongoing negotiations
is built upon solid grounds via upcoming verifiable action(s).
so as to help to initiate – with others – world peace.
[ and a watered down ‘ol nobel prize going to simultaneous multiple leaders, and helpers,
would be good for the ongoing pursuits of happiness for generations to come. ]
Its not about whom all goes down (which helps in short term),
its about the long term and whom gets built up, now and for generations (by and for, we the people).
imho
Love thy neighbors
“For if it prosper, none dare call it treason” is a quote by Sir John Harrington, written in 1600 a poem “Of Treason”.
See also Cleon Skousen.
I didn’t know that Sir John Harrington was the author of that quote. He is/was an ancestor of mine, a godson of Queen Elizabeth I; wrote some naughty works to entertain the ladies of her court, which displeased the Queen. He also designed/invented the flush toilet which is why we call it the John. My dad used to say it should be called the Sir John!
So, why don’t the powers that be TELL US THIS? We get it.
Miss Pam brought this all upon herself by boasting every night with the blabbermouth Sean about how tough she is and the old “nobody is above the law” drivel.
BTW, is not lying under oath a serious crime that is punishable? Seems like a slam dunk for an awful lot of these bad actors.
The Oath that politicians Swear and the corrupt judiciary have proven it means absolutely nothing and that includes boat loads in military leadership.
So the best we can hope for is a new book expose’ by Jake Tapper?
SD: “That’s both a good thing from the perspective of an enlarged awakening but also holds a serious downside if people are focused on the delivery of accountability.”
I think increased public focus upon and outrage about the lack of accountability for government criminals would be a good thing.
I agree with Sundance.
I have no expectations for criminal
prosecutions.🤷♀️
My focus is on how fast and how much
the Deep State,FBI,CYA and Lawfare is
being …and can be exposed. 👍 👏
😎Expose the corruption first.
👩🏫Educate as many people as possible.👩🏫
Prosecution show trials and special councils
at this point, have potential to side step the
ongoing and still existing Deep State and their
cronies….Lawfare, FBI, CYA and the entire IC
community and corrupt politicians.
They would just be a means to get talking points
in election campaign commercial.
Watch it unfold ….And have no expectations of
criminal prosecutions….just hammer down how
dirty and corrupt Democrats are….and have
always been.👍👏
The Court of Public Opinion
🤷♀️
Sundance….
You got Kudos today from Mike Benz.
He is also doing a pretty good job….IMO..
of exposing the Deep State.
👍 👏
He referenced your 2013 article …
John Brennan-The CIA-Zbigniev Brzezinski-Columbia University and Obama
It is all tied together….🤷♀️
Start at hour 7 minutes.
Mike Benz on X: “The Strange Ties Between John Brennan and Ryan Routh https://t.co/FYVirp1Zie” / X
From all indications…Routh had some very questionable ties😎👻
Well, perhaps not “accountability” for their criminality.
I know this has been mentioned, but they got Al Capone in the end for tax evasion.
Surely in committing their seditious treason, the players have committed prosecutable offenses peripheral to their main crime…
No Epstein List (yes, I know)??
No prosecutions and convictions for tearing this country into shreds, defaming a duly elected President, no nothing which even approaches justice for the innocent people whose lives and reputations were targeted and destroyed with malice aforethought??
Promises, promises which can never be fulfilled?
Danger, Will Robinson…
I dread to contemplate how much.
Betsy…..
I remain optimistic.
It appears that those pushing the Epstein list
are the propaganda pushers. They always seem
to focus on the salacious aspects of a story.🙄
But, what is happening is that a lot of younger
conservative Independent Journalists are focusing
on the other aspects regarding Epstein….
the money laundering, arms and gun trafficking.
The connections, cooperation and corruption
of our politicians, IC community and legal system.
The Russia Hoax is further revealing it all. 🤷♀️👏👍👍
The MSM…Faux News and cable viewers…🙄🙄🙄
remind me of the people who watched Soap Operas
when they were all the rage 😆😆🤣
It is the Independent Journalists..like Sundance and
others who are making a difference.
Just like they did with the Covid Hoax and jab.
Epstein started his career in money laundering
drug and arms trafficking. He had connections.
High connections…..starting back as far as
Iran Contra and our involvement with that.
Some of very same people connected with
the Russia Hoax…prime example…Bill Barr.
I just keep saying….educate…educate…educate.
Build a case.👩🏫👩🏫👩🏫
I remain..optimistic.
At one point he ties in the Clintons and Mena, Arkansas…
a lot revealed.
The corruption of Clinton’s and others
and how far it goes back…
☀️ Is the best disinfectant.
Same Game— with a few new names
going on now…..As we have heard many times….
All Roads Lead to Langley
“Epstein COVERUP Began in 1981!” – DARPA Docs Expert Exposes Truth | Mike Benz • 324 – YouTube
At this point, gypsy, we can dismiss the EL, except perhaps that its existence or not is useful for Deep Staters and the Democrat party.
My stance now on all of this is one of a bystander. What will be will be.
Can any of us help to effect which in saner, more moral times would be justice? Of any description? I think not.
I am grateful that finally the wheels are coming off this execrable, monstrous plot by people I’d describe as socio-/psychopathic. If it weren’t for Sundance’s relentless bloodhound pursuit of the the truth, none of us here…and now elsewhere…would be any the wiser as to the depth and degree of corruption which has eaten through various administrations…and in Congress. I bet when he goes to bed at night, he finds it difficult to turn off, so immersed is he in fulfilling his appointment (I’m sure 🙏🏻) to do all he can to expose who has brought our nation low, has succeeded, and seeks to keep it there.
He is doing the heavy lifting. He has been our Paul Revere on steroids.
I am at the point where I am content to let the Lord our God, Who sees all, handle the vengeance which desperately needs to be meted out. His hand is visible for anyone with eyes to see. We are at this point by His providence. I have faith He is not done yet…and so will not stamp my foot, telling Him to hurry up.
Those who did their worst and thought their wickedness would stay in the darkest places unseen are finding that In their arrogance, they forgot to look up.
How, when, and in what form they will be held to the account they so richly deserve is unknown.
That it will happen is without doubt.
I’ll wait…
Perhaps illegal campaign donations, through using govt and news media to despairingly paint the political opponent as a Russian lackey, will be this generation’s ‘tax evasion’ ; then combine that approach with Hatch Act violations (govt employees cannot use the govt assets for political things), Betsy Jones, you just might be onto something!
I’ve been thinking also about crimes using federal communications, Bessie. Wire fraud for example, though I’m not sure how to delineate it. But something surely!!
Now if only I had a modicum of confidence in Bondi and her loyalties to President Trump and to this nation. I get the feeling she enjoys her position and the title, and the accoutrements which come with it. But I also get the feeling that what needs to be done will seem to much like hard work for her. That is if she is even competent to get it done. I have my doubts about that as well.
A pit bull she ain’t.
I hate to say it, but time (of which there isn’t much for complicated, contentious investigation and prosecutions such as we are praying for) really will tell.
Would permanently revoking all security clearances of those involved have any negative affect for those perpetrators?
Yes, they’ll no longer be able to gain classified information for insider trading which will decrease their ill gotten gains.
…and yet, their ‘networking’ skills, ‘a pen and a phone’,
could q up another crop of perps to infiltrate the system$ (and some have said that is what bren non is doing in spare time… (shhh…quiet…) getting ‘his’ people into dod etc. )
And they will no longer be invited onto the pundit shows. Fade into obscurity.
…and no longer able to plot with inside DS and stop leaks
Dmitri Alperovich
https://nationalsecurity.gmu.edu/dmitri-alperovitch/
“He is a Co-Founder and former CTO of CrowdStrike Inc., a leading cybersecurity company.”
“In 2016, Alperovitch revealed Russian intelligence agencies’ hacking of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), events which unveiled the full scope of cyber influence operations being launched against the 2016 US Election.”
“Alperovitch is currently a Senior Fellow at Harvard Kennedy School’s Belfer Center’s Defending Digital Democracy Project and Senior Fellow at Atlantic Council. He currently serves on the Advisory Boards for NATO’s Cooperative Cyber Defence Centre of Excellence (CCDCOE) and RSA Conference.”
Tulsi Is Knocking On The Right Door With Alperovich
Trump Investigation Getting Very Warm Now They Have Lit On Dmitri Alperovich
https://georgewebb.substack.com/p/tulsi-is-knocking-on-the-right-door
This reminds me of Tom Cruise’s line from the film A Few Good Men.
Managing expectations comes down to a matter of credibility. Who does the American public trust that could tell them the hard truth about the situation AND they would accept it? I can’t think of anyone.
I’ve always pictured the entire hoax being similar to a merry-go-round with Obama/Clinton in the center reaching out the the various actors on their horses dutifully doing their jobs. Team Obama/Clinton just needed to reach out to those various actors periodically to give the wheel a spin to keep it going and to make sure they were perpetuating the lie. Distance and plausible deniability were their goals.
Seems there are small fish to fry such as Stroke and Page cell phone messages. There’s Hillary and her server in a bathroom. So much more. Surely, though the severity of the crimes may have to be smaller, there are crimes that can be proven. Surely, right?
First ..you make this a CCE prosecution…so you are not relying on single events .. but the totality of all events starting with exoneration of Clinton ..not by doj bit fbi director comey…the lead name on the indictment is Obama ..SCOTUS was clear prez immunity does not attach to criminal acts the prez commits .there are at least 30 well known names to indict as co conspirators .. add to that ten of the top journos independently….not their outlets…since they did not act as journos…but as critical co conspirators… Bring in mayor Rudy as a consultant to? the Task Force…since this is similar to major mob prosecutions where ” plausible deniability” is also their defense . However like in a mob CCE prosecution…once you drop the indictment….there will be a race to the doj for a deal…forced everyone to lawyer up ….can’t be ignored by media . A ” Sammy the bull” will surface since a high level flipper is the only you get convictions . Last critical point .. the raid on Trump’s home was florida…this must be brought in florida…obviously they will squeal to move it to home turf in DC…but since maralago raid was a big element in the CCE…you have a huge chance a Florida judge will keep it …just like the rogue DC judges refused over 1200 change of venue requests during the J6 prosecutions .. worse case scenario…everyone indicted will go thru legal hell..and more info will be in the public domain…pray!
So this is the end of The Grand Experiment and we are nothing more than a thugocracy.
I read years ago that the average American worker/union factory worker will accept anything as long as they have enough money in their pocket for a beer and a shot on Friday after work.
I suppose the tick-tock drags on through 2026 and maybe 2028 (we’ll get them if you elect R’s).
Then I’m glad I’m not average.
We were never an experiment.
Our Constitutional Foundation is rock solid…..longest continuous government in modern times. All other nations have gone through multiple iterations of government.
This construct that America is an experiment is a piece of propaganda designed to instill the idea that we, as a nation, will fail. We will not.
We get to choose whether or not we will overcome this Uniparty globalism.
Our Founding Generation knew the odds were against them. Because their cause was righteous they believed that God Almighty would assist them in obtaining liberty that they might worship as they chose.
We have the same opportunity to request Divine Assistance against or enemies both foreign and domestic. With such assistance we will prevail.
I follow you like clockwork, but something has to happen…Even if it is bankrupting some these cretins in endless court cases…
it all needs laid out for the american people,along with the facts of the law. i believe most america now understands the concept of the deep state having the same political party as trump and repubs. we will understand the fact that these scum are untouchable, criminally. sue the crap out of them. put em out in the street. it’s called being ‘flynned’.
Stephen Miller disagrees . Check out his youtube interview with Maria Bartiromo yesterday.
Stephen Miller unloads on Dems allegedly involved in Russiagate scandal: ‘One egregious felony after another’
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller on the origins of the Russia collusion narrative, holding its perpetrators …
Hard for me to say this, but does anyone else get the sense they are being brainwashed?
Who is “they”?
They should have been We.
By who?
Sundance & Team.
I never thought I’d say that.
But after all that has come out substantiating unlawful activity why theorize over the ability to get a conviction?
It’s not like there is a little evidence.
Put it to a Jury.
No everyday citizen would be given a pass like that.
The full force of the DOJ would be trust upon them.
the bar is high, and the offensive team is b-string at best.
Just saw this at NYP:
“Ex-Obama officials face federal grand jury probe into whether they promoted false Trump-Russia ties”
https://nypost.com/2025/08/04/us-news/ex-obama-officials-face-federal-grand-jury-probe-into-whether-they-promoted-false-trump-russia-ties/
Guarantee: If any lawfare is engaged and indictments issued and “trials” initiated, they will labeled as “show trials”.
Respectfully, I disagree.
The fisa warrants. Let’s start there.
It’s documented
Material evidence
Not once but several times criminally filing for surveillance “warrants” upon a predicate that was KNOWN TO BE FALSE.
I agree that the current administration “shares” the same opinion as is written here. We know that. But as long as we are going to pretend that justice IS a possibility with the tv celeb wannabe bondo, why bother…why bother to care one way or the other if justice is pursued.
Ahhh. Now we come to what really matters. What counts. The feet friz of the matter.
You see it’s not forcing a guilty verdict in court…not the goal
The goal is to dematerialize these reprobates financially and sending a multi billion dollar penalty in dimtoward the w cret police spy state actors. Sure you.might get away with the drone, but it’s going to cost you so much defending yourself you’ll eue the day you decided to violate the law, defraud THREE elections, and caused so much harmto innocent people and committed treason to the office in which you were sworn to obey
We destroy your money, your reputations and otherwise terrorize you..
The same exact way that you terrorized THE PEOPLE
we are of course interested in convictions. But will settle for bums on the street.
God Bless Amwrica
Where’s Amwrica?
…agree in general.
Civil matters are often decided based upon a ‘preponderance of evidence’. – there seems to more ‘evidence’ than a single person can fully comprehend, boxes upon boxes of paper and / or terabytes of data,
plus…. manufactured things, stories, data, consistently point to wrong actions and in the same direction
(away from perpetrators, as intended, and towards someone else).
A civil action can have very high costs upon the perps, since the victims (we the people, and people in other countries) have incurred and are incurring ongoing costs as a causal affect of the perps premeditated actions (initial and cover up) …
Criminal matters are often decided based upon ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ – which is possible pending a jury of the peers, if proven or if plea dealed. [ given the spreading of news, it is unlikely that a jury could be found that would not be pre-biased towards what he / she read, or mis read ]
Sometimes, a case won in a civil matter,
can also go to a criminal matter.
Since the ‘national security’ of we the people looks (and beyond that) to be harmed,
a military review could also be considered?
imho
I do not know
Sometimes, a case won in a civil matter,
can also go to a criminal matter.
-and vice versa
Since the ‘national security’ of we the people looks (and beyond that) to be harmed,
a military review could also be considered?
In ol football parlay,
the plays could be the triple options….
for a long, long season, or century…
The future history books have a lot of material,
will it be spun?
Indeed.
Comey’s leak to his buddy.
The Warner leak to Watkins.
On and on.
Wategate was/is a real place in DC. The Nixon take down was much smaller in the number of rats behind it. Can we stop with the -gate for every scandal?
Obamagate has a good ring to it though.
If criminal prosecutions eventually come off the table, there is always the civil court. Perhaps an extensive class action lawsuit is in order. Depending on the class, it could be for billions.
Geez, any possibility that both could occur??
Sundance –
>>> “For President Trump the most dangerous part of this entire storyline is pushing an expectation that criminal indictments could be possible.”
As cunning as President Trump is, he’s certainly acutely aware of this.
My HOPE (it’s all I’ve got) is that there is incriminating evidence that we don’t yet know about, evidence that will be disclosed in the coming days, weeks and months, evidence that will prove guilt and thus require justice.
>>> “Instead, the possibility of criminal accountability is almost non-existent.”
Based on our *current* knowledge.
>>> “Expectations need to be managed. Because if people get their hopes up and then nothing happens the collapse in morale could be politically devastating.”
Truth.
>>> “I am open to hearing counter opinions established in solid framework…”
I don’t have a counter-opinion based in solid framework, all I have is hope and faith in our president, our attorney general and our legal system.
I recognize that this America’s (and indeed, the world’s) last stand, and all I can do is hope and pray that justice prevails.
Thanks, as always, for your honesty (as brutal as it can be at times!), integrity, and diligent quest for the truth. May God continue to richly bless you.
~ EM
We need weekly prime time press conferences where all of these truths are laid bare to the American people.
The fact that President Trump is NOT holding weekly press conferences is quite troubling.
That cat troubles me more.
NO “Russiagate” crime is too small – NOT TO PROSECUTE.
Get them on the little things. EVERY LITTLE BIT.
At a practical level PICK A CONCENTRIC CIRCLE, further out from OBAMA,
Prosecute, prosecute, prosecute: the first of the circles, working your way back to BHO.
DO NOT FLINCH.
NO
PLEA
BARGAINING.
(Convictions on record!)
How about lying under oath? I’m sure a few can be caught doing that.
The British Pilgrims Society’s Shadow Game: How Crossfire Hurricane Was a UK-Led Assault on President Trump
By Anonymous Patriots, April 12, 2025, 9:01 am
https://tinyurl DOT com/3szh8knx
Marshal of the Royal Air Force Graham Eric “Jock” Stirrup, Baron Stirrup, Current Pilgrims Society President, Is the Warlord We Must Expose—Sherlock Holmes’ Creator Knew the Score
The Trump-Russia hoax—Crossfire Hurricane—was no American misfire; it was a British Pilgrims Society operation, masterminded by its current president, Marshal of the Royal Air Force Graham Eric “Jock” Stirrup, Baron Stirrup (left photo, since 2015). This wasn’t Putin’s plot—it was London’s, with Stirrup’s MI6 operatives and City of London aristocrat bankers aiming to derail Trump’s “America First” agenda. Lillian Scott Troy exposed their 24-point plan in 1912 to annex America into a corporatist one-world English-speaking empire. Here’s the twist: Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock’s creator, knew their schemes yet penned propaganda for their British War Propaganda Bureau (1914–1919). From Troy’s revelations to Conan Doyle’s complicity to Stirrup’s 2016 coup, this is a 120-year sting. It’s time to unmask Stirrup’s cabal—starting now.
Fast-forward to 2016: Stirrup’s Pilgrims, armed with the blueprint Troy uncovered and Conan Doyle’s propaganda legacy, targeted Trump. As London’s leader, Stirrup commanded Privy Counsellors, MI6 veterans, and Five Eyes operatives—Lord Malloch-Brown, Sir Geoffrey Pattie, even Tucker Carlson (joined 2004), George Will, and Peggy Noonan joined. Trump’s anti-globalist stance threatened their borderless vision, so Crossfire Hurricane, launched July 31, 2016, became their weapon. Stirrup, former Chief of the Defence [sic] Staff (2006–2010), leveraged his influence, including QinetiQ’s treasonous 2008 U.S. Army inventory-tracking deal during wartime. Troy warned of it, Conan Doyle obscured it, Stirrup executed it. Expose him, and the dominoes fall.
On April 26, 2016, George Papadopoulos, a minor Trump campaign advisor, was ensnared in London’s shadows. Through Arvinder Sambei, a top Crown Prosecution Service prosecutor and Robert Mueller pal, he was approached by Joseph Mifsud, an MI6-connected Maltese academic peddling “Russian email dirt” on Hillary Clinton. On May 10, Alexander Downer, Australia’s ambassador and a Five Eyes operative, met Papadopoulos, dangling a fabricated connection to Putin’s niece—an MI6 plant. Papadopoulos sidestepped the bait, but Downer’s tip to the FBI lit the investigation’s fuse. Orchestrated by Stirrup’s UK intelligence machine, Mifsud played the tempter, Papadopoulos the dupe. The 2025 revelation that Joseph Mifsud was a Western operative, not a Russian agent, lays bare Stirrup’s Pilgrims scattering half-truths to cloak their schemes.