First things first. It might not be the popular thing to accept, but it is increasingly clear there is no way to get to any form of accountability or legal exposure for Russiagate or the manufacturing of the Trump-Russia collusion narrative, anywhere near former President Barack Obama. The concentric circles of plausible deniability are just too extensive.
Essentially, despite the evidence of the FBI participating in a manufactured investigation predicted on false pretenses, all now supported with hindsight evidence, the fact that key IC officials, namely CIA Director John Brennan, FBI Director James Comey and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, presented the illusion of credible concern, inoculates President Obama from scrutiny.
As the Supreme Court noted, the President is protected from liability for “official acts” of his office. Yes, we all know these officials knew it was a ruse; however, in 2016 the CIA and FBI were presenting the information to Obama and saying the investigative value was potentially plausible. As such, Obama would have been within his official duty to tell the IC officials to chase down the information (continue investigating it).
Then, the January 5th, 2017, meeting documented by the infamous “by the book” Susan Rice memo, further inoculates President Obama for telling the IC officials to follow careful procedures as they continued investigating whether or not the Trump-Russia collusion was a factual concern. All of these elements lead to various tentacles of plausible deniability. No court is going to find criminal action within the decision-making, regardless of how ridiculous it may look in granular hindsight.
Are all the characters guilty of perpetrating a fraud for the expressed intent of a political narrative, yes. Are they criminally liable for it, extremely unlikely.
The only criminal liability that appears visible is in the Mueller probe that came along in May 2017 to cover up the prior conduct.
The Mueller/Weissmann special counsel perpetrated fraud in legal filings, lied to the FISA court, and manipulated evidence.
As a result, we must ask ourselves what is the value in this ongoing reveal of information?
Because they were willing participants in the overall operation, the MSM media will never admit their role or culpability in the ruse. That leaves an echo-chamber of alternate media combing through the granular releases and discovering the trail of evidence represented within the declassification.
Put all that alternative media together, and you impact 25 to 40% of the public. The rest don’t really care, and/or dislike President Trump too much to really care that he was targeted by the Intelligence Community. This is not ‘doomerism’, this is the reality when you pull back from the ‘tick-tock’ grifting clickbait.
Worse still, it is clear the ‘tick-tock’ controlled release of information is in full swing again. When you hear John Solomon saying, “we are working to release more information,” it’s worth asking yourself who exactly is this “we” that Solomon is speaking of?
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I’ve come to the conclusion the “we” consists of those within the clickbait industry who seek to make a living from the endless discussion. Solomon is not a reporter, he’s a participant.
Here’s another example, courtesy of Sean Hannity and Senator Lindsey Graham.
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[SOURCE]
To believe there is no potential linkage and no crimes within any of these actions, is complete hogwash.
Russia Collusion
Seth Rich Murder
Impeachment 1 & 2
2020 Election Fraud
Attempted Assassination #1 & #2
Ukraine Money Laundering
Covid Gain of Function
Vaccine testing, approval & injuries
Weaponization of Agencies & fraudulent legal cases against PT
USAID/NGO Money Laundering & Stealing from American Taxpayer
Agency destruction of evidence
Biden Laptop
FISA Court – NSA/FISA surveillance abuse
Epstein Investigation
ActBlue Donations Investigation
Auto Pen Investigation – Who was running the Country?
FISA Court & Unlawful Spying on Americans
Ok, Matlock. Argue the case(s) instead of a list-dump.
Sundance’s is living in reality not by shouting every conspiracy at once.
You don’t win a case by dumping 18 unrelated accusations in front of a jury and hoping outrage carries the day.
You win by building a clean line from motive to method to misconduct. The motive part will be declared these were ‘official acts’ from their perspective.
Maybe you think you are detonating a truth grenade. What you are really doing is making it easy for critics to wave it all off as conspiratorial noise.
Have a good day.
There’s a huge flaw in this argument.
The same approach, if one wants to get down and dirty, can be applied by whomever controls the levers of power.
I was inside the military/gov’t fortress for decades. If you really want to eff someone up, there’s a lotta paths (some take longer than others) to reach that end state. This, of course, raises its own set of ethical challenges. But…..it can be done..
If recent history teaches anything, it’s that all doors are open
I am hopeful that plays out.
My concern is if you lose wrong in the wrong venue, and you have just rewriten the rules in their favor. The outcome gets cited, not the facts. What should have been exposed becomes protected?
Remember Kevin Clinesmith altered evidence used to justify surveillance, admitted it, and still got probation.
I am hopeful they have that issues addressed by venue choice.
That is how you alter the battlefield.
Credible counter!
My larger intent was simply to note that if one is in it for keeps – there are multiple paths. If the legal system is deemed fixed, then a decision has to be made on alternate strategies. Glib though it may be: like everything in life it’s about risk/costs. Everyone except maybe the criminally insane has their personal threshold.
Another way of putting it: if jail time is a low probability outcome, then seek out strategies that redound unprofitably to the perpetrators in other areas. They will have a pain point.
I’m not as sharp as 99.99% of the Treehouse community.
It is inconceivable to me that with what has been revealed none of the participants within three tiers from the top of the Obamination Administration can be indicted for any of this.
I’m shocked by Sundance’s post.
Indicted maybe. Convicted doubtful.
You are most certainly as smart as the rest of us.
I have posited in other posts on this thread, I truly believe/hope a grander game is in play.
You don’t advertise to your opponents your strategy.
Deflect, misdirect, fool them to devote their diminishing reserves to garbage tasks.
I didn’t attend Military school, but I know a few things about fighting bad asses.
I suspect the new Trump Team know more than either you or me., and certainly have more motivation.
Let them at it.
Okay, weaver-of-conspiracy-theories.
But Twitter told me so!
Hell of a laundry list.
Waaay too much for most mortals to tackle.
Vigilantism was necessary in the old west when the lawmen partnered with outlaws and participated in or allowed the continuance of their illicit activities.
It may come to that again if the “law” doesn’t find them guilty of something.
Sir it already did ask Foster or Rich or any of the J6 folks.
Our OK corral was 2015-2024 lots of criminals working with law enforcement to great success.
I am not worried about taking out Obama I want the henchmen I want the underlings.
I want their money sources cut off and 3years of litigation to break them.
Let them go to the cameras and plead their victum status. Beg for help and look as pathetic as want to be facist can.
Let them try to rebuild their powerbase after there leaders money sources and back bench have all been physically and emotionally broken. Take them down “by the book” the lefts book.
Show me the man I will show you the crime.
Truth not only can we handle the truth we want them to swim in it until they drown
Years ago when John and Sarah Carter were working together and said they were “Approached” by “Someone” in the IC and told to continue pushing and don’t stop It smelled.
And how can what Osama and crew did be considered an official Act in office ?
That is the trap. “Official act” does not mean it was good or justified. It just means it was done under the color of office.
If Brennan, Comey, and Clapper tell Obama there is “a credible foreign influence risk,” and he says “look into it,” that qualifies as an official act—even if the entire premise was a political setup.
That is the legal firewall I believe Sundance is describing. They did not leave fingerprints saying “frame Trump.” They left paperwork saying “follow procedure,” and to us that is a smoking gun. But for them, it is plausible deniability.
The system preserves itself not by denying wrongdoing, but by redefining it as duty.
Right. But that might only insulate Obama. If you can show that Brennan/Clapper/Comey were knowingly pushing false intelligence, then you can go after them. I think it’s going to be very difficult to get Obama and probably not worth trying. Probably better to just smear him with mud and leave his reputation in tatters. “You couldn’t convict me” rings hollow when those around you are convicted.
That’s fair. Go after the ones who did the dirty work. Brennan, Clapper, and Comey don’t get the full “official act” shield if they knowingly used false intelligence to trigger surveillance and investigations. That’s where the legal opening may be found in fraud, abuse of process, maybe even conspiracy. Obama floats above it, but if the operators fall, the political fallout still hits him.
More importantly, that’s how you trigger avoidance and course correction inside the system. When lower-level actors face real consequences (💰💰💰, the bureaucracy recalibrates.
And it should not stop at the intelligence agencies. Congressional members who amplified the lies by laundering classified leaks through committee hearings, fed the media, and shielded bad actors need to be exposed too.
Accountability isn’t just about punishment. It’s about disrupting the incentive structure that made this possible in the first place.
Make one tier pay, and the rest will start hedging instead of colluding. That’s how you stop the next version of this before it starts.
Correct .. and following illegal orders or falsifing information under color of law doesn’t work either.
Speaking of color of law… that may actually modify the presidential immunity a bit. You would need actionable evidence of knowingly participating in a fraud.
Certainly Trump as an official act could put a secret Presidential Fisa on Brennan using false foreign intelligence
3 steps would give you everything anyone ever communicated.
Perhaps the games afoot. The history of all this in ten years maybe more valuable to the republic than prosecutions.
The country is headed in a dangerous direction of becoming ungovernable. When no one believes anything government says you get the fall of the Soviet Union.
When the truth finally comes out you have a chance to salvage much of it in that case Russia. If we are to face a tidal wave of truth I would like to have Trump at the helm.
So bring it but be prepared for things you thought loomed large to be folly and things you thought folly to be the real issue.
Rember trillions at stake evil people with no rules, unlimited resources ( mostly your $ ) and smart planners under them with no guardrails.
So…from this point of view that was just presented by Sundance…..It would appear that President Trump could through his “official acts” set up the democrats for a fall through some manipulated process…..or do something to frame Biden or Obama or get real radical and just arrest Hillary Clinton.
It seems you can do what you want an get away with it…..so should President Trump through the same process.
He doesn’t need to manipulate or do what they did with falsehoods and lies….but apparently the TRUTH is worthless in the judicial system or in DC. So if the TRUTH is shoved under the rug and doesn’t put these sob’s behind bars…or better yet on flights to Gitmo for their last meal before nationally televised justice….then why doesn’t he……or any other President ever to come just do what they want…like Obama and his team did under the lies of official duties.
The point is……with no accountability…….we not only have not seen the last of this kind of thing…..it will be a hell of a lot worse to come! Why? Because the message being sent is that it’s accepted and a precedent has been set!
I for one still believe that this will come down and THEY WILL PAY! They must pay! And if nothing was going to come of it…why all the disclosure? Why not just kick the can down the road and be silent on it and do nothing? That’s what typically happens in DC. The do nothing, rotten establishment are professionals at making it look good…like they will or are going to do something….but never do and the whole thing gets kicked to the next Congress who drops it totally. Years go by….Americans yawn and forget about it….mission accomplished!
NOT SO WITH TRUMP!
He went through a lot…….Im thinking he is NOT going to forget about it,
You are right – Trump will run this gauntlet through the courts eventually after he links the 2020, 2022, and 2024 elections that involve the same people. Deep State is going to fight!
The “disclosure” is being done so PDJT and his administration can say “See, we tried. Too bad nothing can be done about all of the malfeasance that took place. But, by God, we’ll get those wrascles next time!” LOL.
Okay well you know how it all ends.
So Bye
If Trump does to the dems what they did to him he’ll go to jail. No DC jury is going to convict a dem regardless of how much damning evidence is provided. Even if they were to convict, no DC judge will send a dem to prison. Conversely, a DC jury would 100% convict Trump even if loads of exculpatory evidence were presented an any DC judge would throw the book at him.
We don’t need a DC Jury, just military tribunals!
And sharpshooters
Correct. The headline of this article should have been, “Our Constitutional Republic is Finished; Get Your Affairs in Order Before the Left Cheats Its Way Back into Power.” VSG (who Thune just blocked from making Recess appointments) should just start arresting and suing all the perps to kingdom come. Every one of them. It mystifies me why Sundance would spend so many thousands of hours–and inspiring us to do the same–investigating, studying, and revealing all the commies’ dark maneuvers, just to conclude that, well, there’s really nothing we can do about it, the ballgame’s already over, the deep state’s unbeatable. We all had better things to do, I’m sure. I’m going back to reading novels.
I see this line – “Left cheats its way back to power” – a lot here and it makes me chuckle.
The number of currently pissed-off Democrats, Independents, and even Republicans far outnumbers MAGA voters.
You have your head in the sand if you think cheating is needed.
Please provide the evidence – including your “pissed off” meter. Cuz, after all, you’re an expert at reading state-of-mind!
Speaking of chuckling.
Since individual accountability is so elusive, and the objective was always to save the institutions from outsider Trump, the goal should be to kill some of the institutions.
That’s as good an answer as any I’ve heard.
I’ve worked on Capitol Hill; the action goes on behind closed doors, not in public hearings.
The hearings are for show, and the show is smoke and mirrors.
We can rank order all the crimes, from a statutory perspective, from a Constitutional perspective, or from a moral perspective.
Men like Obama will have their just due, perhaps not in this life, and the best course of action is to ignore them. Don’t participate in any [netflix] thing that puts money in his pocket.
Let’s uncover what happened to the trafficked children from the prior Administration, then work back in time.
Jesus pains for the violation of pure youth. Too many narcissistic adults and seniors are focused on themselves [Congress].
Let’s find the kids, bring them to safety and love, and then ruthlessly determine what happened and by whom. De-emphasize the criminal adults, ignore them, shame them when they appear in public.
Isaiah 55:8, “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways, My ways declares the Lord.” They will answer to the highest authority.
And that is what “They” count on us believing.
Hmm true believer I see
All should be subpoenaed and asked the questions. It will be good to hear them tell the truth even though no criminal prosecution is coming.
I imagine answering questions in a Congressional setting is quite stressful.
\AND a few accidental comments might be fruitful.
Where there is smoke there is fire and, really, the can of worms has only just been opened. The wheels of justice grind exceedingly fine indeed.
0bama is a lot of things, but he’s not a political fool. He didn’t rise from community organizing in the corrupt politics of Chicago to the White House by following the rules. There’s a lot of “there” here, but none of it will stick to him.
He didn’t rise, he was picked and pushed.
I don’t think Barry is or ever was as smart as people imagine.
I knew frauds like him when I was in prep school.
Retired Magistrate here: Well, there is nothing I can do about any of this. Getting upset won’t do me any good; what it will do is mess with my autoimmune disease.
So, I will enjoy the day that I have in front of me and continue to live my best life. On a beautiful morning, like today, I think of my deceased brother, who would love to still be here with a non paralyzed body to enjoy it. That helps me to put things in perspective. Life is short and as I get older the days fly by faster and faster until the day when I won’t be here anymore.
This is the day that the LORD has made; I will rejoice and be glad in it.
❤️💪
Amen Ms Marcia. Live Your Best Life was the theme of the Celebration of Life for my brother in May of this year. No truer words……
Come on gurl.
Offer some unexpected strategies.
We’re all in this together and need all the talents we can muster.
BS, Obama was presented evidence that Russia-Gate was not true. He told those same people to go change finding to show it was true. Therefore sentencing him And all of them to TREASON. Yes you can convince an Honest Judge.
At the very least they should all be sued in civil court and made to repay the tax payers who paid for the 3 special counsels and Trump and associates should be paid back too.
He was presented with false pretenses and also given what was true. He directed Brennan/Clapper to find “me a crime”
He willfully chose the unlawful path
That has to conflict with official duties. And peaceful transition of power
Which is still willfully going on
For the narcissistic Obama, shame and humiliation may need to be his punishment. Hillary, Brennan, Clapper and Comey must at least be prosecuted, sued, bankrupted and hounded until their last day on this earth.
So, as I have been saying, “no one will be held accountable for their actions and receive the punishment they truly deserve”. SOS on a DD. Typical.
Funny my President doesn’t seem to believe that. So I will double down on the man who always seems to win.
“there is no way to get to any form of accountability or legal exposure for Russiagate or the manufacturing of the Trump-Russia collusion narrative, anywhere near former President Barack Obama. The concentric circles of plausible deniability are just too extensive.”
What many don’t inderstand is that this is a good example of The Chicago Way. Everyone knows what the boss wants, and they set out on their own to get it. Oh sure, some old politicians get sloppy and get caught. And some younger ones get cocky and think they can get away with anything. But the Old School, the old machine guys, know how it’s done, and it ISN’T done by them. It’s done by guys under them who know how to get things done and don’t need to be told what to do. All roads dead end at people under Obama.
Welcome to the real world.
Criminal charges are unlikely. Even those who can be proven to have lied under oath will be saved by statutes of limitation. The Deep State dragged this out long enough.
However, severe pain can be inflicted on all of these people through civil actions. It doesn’t matter what they claim their intentions were, the damage they did to Trump campaign associates was real.
No statute of limitations on Conspiracy, if the conspirators keep at it (e.g. for cover-up). The charge: Seditious Conspiracy, 2015 to Present.
Beware anytime John Solomon rears his ugly head. He offers no truth; he just wants to flood the MAGA faithful in false hopes.
What Osama has continued after leaving office is not an “Official Act” and that protection stopped on day one.
It should not be safe for the purveyors of Russiagate to walk down the street. No official government security should be afforded for any of them. Let them live their constantly looking over their shoulder in anticipation of the public shiv between their ribs
The DOJ should charge all participants anyway. The process is the punishment as Republicans have learned already.
I gotta say it… Well DUH! Obama was never in danger. Wasn’t going to happen. The best I was hoping for was to trash his legacy and catch a couple of the bigger fish in prison. Expose the lie for history. Put a little fear into others for the future. It is a two tier system. Hunter, Biden, Hillary… too many examples. They rigged the 2020 ELECTION in our faces. It was never going to happen. That is why I laugh when people complain that President Trump didn’t do this or that. We were at the edge and still are.
Obama has made alot of money since leaving the presidency. A three step fisa on Brennan would clear up any and all mysteries.
By the way Mr President if your listening. I Heard from a trusted source, Brennan was working back channels in Ukraine and Russia to undermine your official efforts there. I also heard L. Graham was delivery correspondence from Brennan to all the players over there. You might want to put a presidential Fisa on them both for hatch act violations.
Just sayimg
This is still being presented – mostly by Republicans – as a political dirty trick.
Not once have I heard one of Trump’s staff, a Republican pol or even one of the conservative media personalities tie this back to the safety of the nation. These morons set sanctions on Russia based on pure BS. In other words, they stuck their thumb in the eye of geo-political rival that happens to have nuclear weapons.
I didn’t vote for NBC/CBS/ABC/CNN/FOX/NEWSMAX, I voted for Trump. When was this universal rule enacted that says justice can only be served if media thinks it’s important enough? Way beyond infuriating.
Per Sundance: “Put all that alternative media together and you impact 25 to 40% of the public. The rest don’t really care, and/or dislike President Trump too much to really care that he was targeted by the Intelligence Community. This is not ‘doomerism’, this is reality when you pull back from the ‘tick-tock’ grifting clickbait.” emphasis added
Yes indeed!
25 to 40 percent of father’s at the Thanksgiving table.
Media is not the only way information travels.
Also political change does not require a majority it only requires a majority of the engaged.
Not sure i would count open mouth noding of the MSM consumers engagement let them stay bluepilled till we unplug them.
Indict all of them anyways. Make them spend millions on legal fees and lost hours of their lives in a court room… And who knows, maybe some of them will spend time behind bars.
The media industry survives on just this kinda stuff. And the slow release of these much anticipated documents is great for business. I don’t believe anyone knows what will come of this not even Trump knows.
I know this level of corruption is the legacy of people in high positions of power. They seem to always escape somehow.
Habakuk complained to God about the same kinda corruption we have today
God told the prophet speaking of an appointed time for judgement which God calls the “vision” “Judgement is waiting for it’s appointed time, if it seems slow, wait for it, it will surely come, it will not delay”
This has not been a slow release a package a news cycle is quick by any standard.
Also wasn’t it Andy Breitbart who prevered the drip drip drip method of building a story, let them build a defense then shift the narrative in the next drip to make their defense look stupid.
With help from Grok, lets break it down to possible charges for Brennan, Comey and Obama in one section and ,Rice, Monaco, McCabe, Strozk, Page, Clinton, etc. in another.
The probe centers on:
18 U.S.C. § 371: Conspiracy to Defraud the United States: Coordinating to mislead the government, public, or elections through fabricated intelligence, improper surveillance, or a “hoax” narrative spanning 2016-2024. This is the probe’s “umbrella” charge, linking disparate acts. Up to 5 years imprisonment and $250,000 fine. Relevant to Obama for briefings, Comey/Brennan for execution.
18 U.S.C. § 1001: False Statements: Making materially false statements to federal officials, Congress, or investigators (e.g., Brennan’s testimony denying dossier use in ICA; Comey’s briefings on unverified info). Up to 5 years imprisonment and fines. Primarily relevant to Brennan and Comey for congressional testimony.
18 U.S.C. § 1001: False Statements: Making materially false statements to federal officials, Congress, or investigators (e.g., Brennan’s testimony denying dossier use in ICA; Comey’s briefings on unverified info). Up to 5 years imprisonment and fines. Primarily Brennan and Comey for congressional testimony.
18 U.S.C. § 793: Espionage Act (Gathering, Transmitting or Losing Defense Information) Mishandling classified info, such as sharing or manipulating intelligence on Russia/Trump without authorization (e.g., Brennan’s alleged ICA alterations).Up to 10 years imprisonment and fines. Brennan primarily; potentially Obama if briefings involved unauthorized disclosures.
18 U.S.C. § 1503 or § 1512: Obstruction of Justice: Interfering with investigations or congressional inquiries by misleading or withholding info (e.g., altering ICA, hiding documents in FBI “burn bags”). Up to 10-20 years imprisonment and fines, depending on subsection. All three, especially Comey for FBI handling.
18 U.S.C. § 241: Conspiracy Against Rights: Conspiring to deprive citizens of rights (e.g., via illegal surveillance or election interference through FISA abuses).Up to 10 years (or life if death results) and fines. All three; tied to spying claims.
50 U.S.C. § 1809: Unauthorized Electronic Surveillance (FISA Violations)Conducting surveillance without proper warrants or misleading FISA courts (e.g., using flawed dossier for Carter Page warrant).Up to 5 years imprisonment and $10,000 fine.Comey and Brennan for FBI/CIA roles.
8 U.S.C. § 371: Conspiracy to Defraud the United States: Participating in a scheme to mislead investigations, elections, or the public via fabricated intelligence, unmasking, or FISA manipulations as part of an ongoing “hoax” from 2016 onward.Up to 5 years imprisonment and $250,000 fine. All mentioned; Rice for unmasking/briefings, Monaco for probe oversight, Clinesmith/McCabe/Strzok/Page for execution, Clinton for alleged origination.
18 U.S.C. § 1001: False Statements: Providing materially false information to federal officials, Congress, or in documents (e.g., Clinesmith’s email alteration; McCabe’s leaks/statements; Strzok/Page texts implying bias in probes).Up to 5 years imprisonment and fines. Clinesmith (already convicted); McCabe, Strzok, Page for testimony/leaks.
18 U.S.C. § 1621: Perjury: Lying under oath in congressional hearings or affidavits (e.g., Rice on unmasking; Monaco on Mueller-related matters; McCabe on FBI leaks).Up to 5 years imprisonment and fines.Rice, Monaco, McCabe.
50 U.S.C. § 1809: Unauthorized Electronic Surveillance (FISA Violations): Misusing FISA processes, such as omitting exculpatory info in warrants (e.g., Clinesmith’s alteration; Rice’s unmasking requests; Strzok’s role in Crossfire Hurricane).Up to 5 years imprisonment and $10,000 fine.Clinesmith, Rice, Strzok, Page.
18 U.S.C. § 793: Espionage Act (Mishandling Classified Information): Improper handling or disclosure of sensitive intel (e.g., Rice’s unmasking memos; Monaco’s potential conflicts in corporate roles amid foreign hacks; Clinton’s alleged dossier funding). Up to 10 years imprisonment and fines. Rice, Monaco, Clinton.
18 U.S.C. § 1503 or § 1512: Obstruction of Justice: Interfering with probes by withholding or altering evidence (e.g., McCabe’s leaks; Strzok/Page texts on “insurance policy”; potential cover-ups in Mueller era under Monaco). Up to 10-20 years imprisonment and fines.Monaco, McCabe, Strzok, Page.
18 U.S.C. § 241: Conspiracy Against Rights: Conspiring to violate civil rights through unwarranted surveillance or election interference (e.g., FISA abuses targeting Trump team). Up to 10 years (or life if death results) and fines. Rice, Clinesmith, Strzok, Page, Clinton.
I’m reminded of an old political cartoon featuring a bunch of politicians standing in a circle and pointing at each other. The caption was “Who stole the people’s money? ‘Twas him.”
That was the Tammany affair.
That gang didn’t pay either.
Sometimes It takes a few face punches before the victim says “enough.”
We have reached that moment I think.
Make him lawyer up anyway…the people we can prosecute do…down to the copy boy….
Make them pay on the gallows….
Make the petulant commie watch each one swing….
Yank his SS detail as well as any other government provided benefits….
Many ways to make that scumbag pay…
In the meantime….his underlings should pay with thier lives…
NO MERCY!
We are a failed nation. The next communist/democrat controlled administration will be sending all of us to reeducation camps. None of these people will be held accountable. They knew it then and they are sure of it today.
Unlikely!
Watch many enraged U.K citizens on the streets, taking on authority without a 2 A .
I was watching several clips on my iPad last night, and thought wow no wonder countries wish for an unarmed citizenry.
Cheers!
Debbie Downer on steroids !
Why the heck don’t you get out of your basement and challenge a few of your leftie/commie neighbors?
Do a little patriotic work if you are sincere.
Imho,
the consequences of nefarious b o gate are already ongoing:
– not world peace,
– distrust of u.s. foreign policy
( rus knows its legal agreed upon with u.s., Start treaty Planes were attacked – with hidden, back door u.s. assistance )
To gain trust, that back door u.s. miss policy has a need to be closed in a way that can not be re-opened, with action, proof ( not words ).
– people dieing ( not covered well by media ) in ukr and rus
– billions being miss spent
– other countries justifying their own corruption – based on u.s. corruption ( and no honest accountability to the head master$ that are tapped into the u.s. cash flow via laundering funds)
– expensive and vulnerable over land and sea shipping, when more efficient pipelines are blocked ( example see nordstream pipeline – obfuscated story for years )
– other people miss learning. imitating, gangster mentality ( not peace )
There are solutions. If it was easy
then everyone could fix problems.
It is not easy, but, it is worthwhile. : )
The lord knows….
People know…
The more, the better…
Love thy neighbors…
An ex-Installed President participating in an ongoing Conspiracy Against the United States does not qualify under even a dubious reading of “Official Acts”.
A scroll has been released from the Court of Heaven. Frank Marshall Davis III will not escape his verdict, praise God!
Isaiah 41
Amen!
Be not deceived, for God is not mocked; whatever a man sows, that also shall he reap.
By the time this is over he’ll claim Kenyan citizenship as a way to escape.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/875
and
https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-903-false-statements-concealment-18-usc-1001
Interstate Communications
False Statements and Federal Penalties
Be a shame if these creatures committing crimes were somewhere outside DC when they were calling or sending emails in furtherance of their crimes. Real shame.
I understand that getting criminal convictions may be tough BUT I’m all for dragging these people through as many grand juries and congressional hearings as possible in order to bleed them dry financially. If we can get perjury convictions on some, or any kind of courtroom action on Weissman, McCord, Monaco, Brennan, Mueller, Elias, Eisen, Comey, etc., I’d be happy. Use the process to bankrupt them like they did to others.
Sundance, I would like to ask for clarification on your sentence above; “Are all the characters guilty of perpetrating a fraud for the expressed intent of a political narrative, yes. Are they criminally liable for it, extremely unlikely.” Is your point that they are not liable or they are liable and they will never be held to account for what could be identified under 18 USC. Thank you.
“Are all the characters guilty of perpetrating a fraud for the expressed intent of a political narrative, yes. Are they criminally liable for it, extremely unlikely.”
implication: these dark and powerful people are assembling their November 2028 comeback. Enjoy the next three years then prepare to go back to the future.
“If you see a snake, just kill it – don’t appoint a committee
on snakes.”
Ross Perot
We all want justice. That’s a fact. History shows that pure, authentic justice rarely happens in this life. That’s also a fact, and it’s been a fact ever since Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit.
God tells us in the Bible that He is a God of justice and that we must wait patiently for His justice. God will strengthen us and bless us as we wait.
I believe that God saved President Trump’s life and brought him back to the Presidency “for such a time as this.” Is it possible that the task God has given to President Trump is to reveal the truth….and then to let God take care of the justice?
I don’t think any of the high level perpetrators of these treasonous crimes will ever see the inside of a prison cell. That breaks my heart and makes me angry, but that’s the reality. I can stay angry and scream at the darkness or I can “be still and wait for the Lord.”
What I can take comfort in is that, through President Trump and his loyal allies, the truth is being revealed. The release is happening bit by bit, by the will of God, for maximum impact. The truth will be rejected by many, but many others will see and know the truth. For now, that is enough.
God’s justice will prevail at the time of His choosing.
Each person has ( different, some times similar )
gifts from God.
God may appreciate his children exercising ( not wasting ) their varied gift(s) for good, while alive on earth…
( ancestors before us, did so…working to making this a better place than how we found it – for others now and in the future to learn to do similar, or better…for others… it’s a legacy that helps ongoing good works… )
As Roman Saul ( persecutor of faith believers ) whom experienced a pivot point along his life journey
and
eventually
became St Paul ( helpful to faith believers )…
Paul wrote to the Thessalonians 5:21
‘ prove all things,
and hold fast to that which is true ‘
i.e.
As wise Grandpa said in simpler words over 40 years ago – and in honoring him with daily actions…:
‘ don’t take any wooden nickels ‘
Song,
Jesus loves his little children
( and helping hands – adults and children )
Did someone notice that a new medical regulation
no longer
allows
mercury
to be mixed into
any vaccines?
Good works… in motion…
There is plenty of room for more people to become engaged in good works, small or big…
it all matters, for generations to come, here on earth…
..faith and good works…
James 2:22
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/08/02/rfk-jr-bans-mercury-in-vaccines-after-two-decade-battle-no-more-poisoning-pregnant-women-and-children/
The deep state put a gay black Muslim in the White House to mock white America after 9/11 and then had a small surprise in 2016 with the crash of Hillary. They took Trump out in 2020 in a blatant fraud. They shot Trump in a perfect assassination, stopped only by the hand of God and then let him be elected to settle down the rabble rousers for a bit. They will carry on their agenda after the Trump speed bump is done. Their plans have not changed, just extended a bit. Time is on their side.
Time is not on their side…In 2028 Killary will be 81, Slick Willie 82, Soros 99, Schumer 79, Piglosi 89.
The reputations of the above-mentioned creatures’ underlings will be in the trash and no one will touch them with a 10-foot pole. It’s the people that have flown under the radar and did the dirty work that have to be exposed; so they don’t end up in the future being called “Senator” or “Congressman.”
In 2028 most, if not of all, these traitors will be dead.
We need to expose (by their rhetoric and votes) all the scoundrel rinos and dem/commies.
This mop-up takes time, but is worth it.
You can actually eat a whale…one ton at a time.
Director Radcliffe made the statement that Brennan, Clinton, etc. perpetrated a “hoax” on the American people.
Excuse me. It was not a “hoax”, but rather acts of treason. A hoax implies harmless, inconsequential intent and behavior.
Undermining, vilifying and accusing Donald Trump of treasonous behavior – is sedition. It is treasonous pure and simple. The intent was to destroy him — and the will of the people
Indict these bastards — NOW!
IF … such a degree of certitude exists that BHO does manage to evade legal consequences,
FORGET ABOUT Him, at least, in a manner of speaking.
[“They go high, we go low?”]
Burn, metaphorically, the concentric circles around him down to the ground. ASHES.
In terms of legal pursuit – IGNORE Him.
Instead, pick a most practical concentric circle further away from him and burn every dirtied hand in this rotten, dirty affair all the way back to the innermost circle.
AND DON’T FRET ABOUT THE COST OF THAT INVESTMENT. It’s an investment in the future of this land (and beyond.)
Make of this false MESSIAH (thnx Rush!) … a complete and total ANATHEMA.
Get them on the little stuff.
Every little thing that you can. NO PLEA BARGAINING.
Make them spend THEIR money defending themselves.
Let it impact the health of each and every one of them in a way that they find gratifying … when it happens to those who don’t happen to live in the special little elite bubbles that these folks construct for themselves.
People like Foni and Letits are still walking around without a care in the world.
To think a bigger fish Russiagate player being held accountable is a fantasy.
Ok no problem….But we can prosecute HER… there is more then enough documentation that she and her subordinates created and perpetrated this conspiracy… Go after HER and put her in prison once and for all. The Obama people would likely support it as a trade off and most Americans would say long overdue…
If anyone outside of the IC, proper, were to have dirt – and in this case THE dirt that could put this treasonous former President away, the Clintons would have to be near, if not AT the top of that list.
Hillary(!) gets indicted. She wants to make a deal. The Clintons know how to cover their respective asses.
Many true MAGA would believe absolutely that she spills on Obama.
Does the Gov’t make the deal letting HRC off lightly, instead sending BHO to CECOT (Alcatraz)?
Does it send Madam Secretary off to CECOT(!) … and let Barry skate?
If the BIG evidence is there … (despite her long history at this “game”) seems that she was playing second fiddle to him.
My legal understanding is while Obama was president, pretty much anything he did is covered by presidential immunity. Furthermore everything his minions did at his direction while he was president is also covered.
What ISN’T covered is anything Obama holdovers did to subvert Trump after HE became president. Neither is perjury.
All the prosecutable crimes occurred after January 20, 2017.
Well SD you have always been a straight shooter. I respect your opinion.
I will not pay attention to any of this crap from now on.
If I hear Bondi has the balls? to indict some of these traitors I will be pleasantly surprised.
Otherwise I am not paying anymore attention to any of these revelations.
All of these criminals including St Obama will all burn in Hell when they are all dead and gone. That will be the best punishment.
Trust in the Lord. Amen.
What would the response be if Donald Trump or anyone in his administration or family had done even one of these things?
They would pursue him until he was in jail or dead. We absolutely must do the same. NEVER LET THIS GO!
Anybody besides me notice just how physically repulsive HRC is?
This is what needs to happen…Raid their houses at 4 AM and haul their asses away in handcuffs. Charge them with everything possible, including far reaching and highly suspect crimes. MAKE them lawyer up and protect themselves against the full power and might of the US Federal Gov, set perjury traps for them like they did to us, and bankrupt them without regard for their personal finances or situation. Oh…and let them sit in jail for 4 years without charges or bail.
“Crime doesn’t pay.” Oh wait……
Bankrupt them all with continually depositions, court procedings, FBI raids, etc. Do the J6 style investigations knowing they mean little leading to jail time. Use the next 3 1/2 years for this.
Beside the reality of Sundance’s explanation that “plausible threat” allows leeway in the definition of the term “official act” …. the “by the book” lends itself to the “INTENT” defense criteria that was created by the Obama DoJ/FBI and cemented into place by the Trump DoJ/FBI.
Yep … the defense and media will state, without a doubt, that the Obama gang acted “properly” on the “best information presented” (by those evil peons) with good “intentions”.
This also says that any of the peons not in the Obama inner circle who may possibly be thrown to the wolves, to be prosecuted …. will be denounced by the media and Obama Supporters … as liars trying to “smear their superiors” for better legal deal.
The interesting part if any of the peons are brought to trial …. how far down the food chain the peon line drifts.
As Sundance states …. Nobody in the immediate circle of Obama’s White House will be prosecuted.
Time will tell if even the lower tier of criminals even see the inside of a court room … if even only a Grand Jury room. Speaking of Grand Jury … geee wonder if a special Grand Jury has even been empaneled to support the referrals?? One would think with all the bally-hooo in the media about the gravity of the evidence discovered … DoJ would be more than eager to announce a special Grand Jury???