Now you will see why I said to watch this interview without distractions.
FED Chairman Jerome Powell announced today the FED Board of Governors is keeping the interest rate at 4.25 to 4.5 percent. The Central Bank of the United States is trying to create an unsustainable debt spiral.
The goal of the FED (Central Bank) is to create a debt spiral that leads to a crisis. This is the way the Central Bank controls the activity of the smaller banks. This is the way the Central Bank keeps control over the people in America. WATCH:
Don’t pretend. Stop being a battered victim to an abusive relationship with government.
President Trump is pumping money into the USA economy through economic growth, tariff revenue, federal govt downsizing, expanded private sector employment and wage growth.
The Central Bankers are trying to drain money from the USA economy through monetary policy and control over the behavior of the smaller regional banks and credit unions.
♦ FED. The Central Bank controls interest rates.
♦ FED. The Central Bank (FED) does not control inflation.
♦ BIG BANKS. The credit creation by institutional banks, the creation of money, does create inflation.
♦ BIG BANKS. Money created by institutional banks does not come from the FED.
♦ BIG BANKS. Money created by institutional banks, via credit creation for asset purchases, creates inflation.
♦ BIG BANKS. Money created by institutional banks via credit creation for consumer spending (loans and credit cards), creates inflation.
♦ TRUMP. Money created by regional banks via credit creation for Main Street development, expands GDP, creates revenue and does not create inflation. Additionally, money created by tariff incomes and money delivered by foreign entities to the U.S. treasury for tariff offset purchases, do not create inflation.
THE BATTLE
The FED, representing the USA Central Bank and the interests of the BIG BANKS, are trying to create a massive debt spiral by keeping the interest rates high and making service on the debt unsustainable.
President Trump, representing Main Street USA, is fighting against the interests of the BIG BANKS, and trying to create revenue to avoid the debt spiral the FED is trying to create.
That’s the non-pretending reality of the situation.
Why does the FED (Central Bank) want to create a debt spiral? Because they want control over the economic activity, which includes the destruction of the smaller regional banks and credit unions who are funding the Main Street economy.
The Cental Bank want’s full control.
What the U.S. Marshalls are to the Judicial Branch; the FBI is to the DC system, and the CIA are to the bankers.
Traitors!!!!
They hate us and want to enslave us!!!
That’s the drift, but Trump continues to play the role of Maximus, the man in the arena.
Exactly! PDJT is out in front of this and has contingencies, he KNEW Powell wouldn’t play nice while making the rest of us suffer at the hands of a bunch of unelected FOMC elites feathering their own nests on our nickel. As for Maximus…”Are we not entertained?!”…time to toss the sword back at them sitting on their cushy rear ends.
They are perfecting SLAVERY. It is way past time for Trump to fire this Communists BIOTCH and to destroy the FED forever.,
It was a long road for these people to eventually take control in 1913.
They’re not going to give up that power willingly.
I would argue we’ve been slaves for generations.
That is a Machiavelli principle to understand. Also, its been 112 years?
Centuries ago, that is how the Rothschilds made their money…wars and playing both sides.
Me too!
A 1% cut is no panacea. See my comments below.
They cant be called traitors as they have never been on out side to begin with.
They have us where they want us…if we shut our wallets, demand goes down.
I wonder how this influences the interest rates on our current debt? That We the People get to pay for.
The “it’s a wonderful life” theory of economics — and it’s true.
The question is who is empowered to stop them?
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Nope, not going there
A guy with impoundment authority can literally scoop up the funds for the palace of Versailles that the fed is building with our 💰💰.
Your answer is in the Constitution.
Maybe his arteries will harden at warp speed, him and his purple tie.
So disgusting. They are all anti American
And….. I pretty much hate this guy
Commented last night re the Tucker Werner interview that I didn’t think I detest Powell any more than I already did, but I was wrong. Powell and his Fed trash pals are evil. They could ignite middle American’s prosperity by dropping rates, but choose to keep rates high. They are evil. Their actions go so far beyond greed and hate for PDT, theres just no other way to describe them
Honest question Sundance. If President Trump fired Jerome Powell, is there someone the President could appoint as acting in a dual role, sort of like Rubio is doing now?
Bessent – move it to the Treasury…worth a try…or PT appoints himself as acting? Either would be fine with me.
Hard to comprehend, U.S. financial policies controlled by private banking business under federal regulatory governance but overseen by independent ( business controlled ) board of governors. Add in and eye of newt and a pinch of bullfrog wart and what a we get…?????
Werners answer – He who writes the rules…..
Fox was talking today with Hassert and they said he was Trump’s choice to replace Powell.
Who is Hassert? Bessent?
Just wondering what Jamie Dimon’s position on this is, he seems to be the go-to guy in big finance/big banks, or is he a media creation.
Just another ultra-rich Democrat 1%-er trying to convince the world that the big bankers are Republicans.
His bank is one of the founding owners of the Fed. They are the NY boys who control it.
Fire him….stat.
I watched the first hour but the last hour and forty three minutes will have to wait until the Mrs. goes to bed.😉
Ron Paul was always right.
They love being on the road of FAFO……
I’m sure the federal reserve owns stock in just about every industry including media…
Many many thanks Sundance for this real understanding, grateful for you putting this in context!
Banksters prefer higher rates to lower rates. More money for them.
Is this another truth that can’t be said because the citizens can’t handle it or something?
So we allow the enslavement to continue because “muh institutions”.
In my days of employment, I found myself oft contesting existing policy and procedures, or just stupid decisions by supervisors. In the beginning, I tried to address my concerns on an upward route, much preferred by the employer management levels due to their ability to deny, obscure, and delay the process. I learned that top down had better, tho more nuclear, results, and caused a more immediate and directed result process. That said, this issue of Fed Reserve and Central Bank manipulation needs to be addressed, my knowledge is limited, but those who are in the know should please respond with some ” TOP DOWN ” strategies to address these concerns. Your attention to this matter is appreciated.
why isn’t the administration making these points?
They rarely even communicate that we’re trying to save the country, Social Security, and Medical. Elon Musk did, but not POTUS or JD Vance. Or not starkly and colorfully enough.
Since the mid-1980s, the number of community banks in the U.S. has fallen by more than two-thirds. In 1984, there were over 13,000 community banks. Today, there are about 4,000. That’s a loss of nearly 70%.
At the same time, the largest banks or those considered “too big to fail” have grown larger and fewer. In 1990, the five biggest banks held about 10% of total industry assets. As of 2024, they control more than 45%. While community banks still represent about 90% of all bank charters, they now hold only 15% of the assets.
This is a shift in leverage. Community banks are where local businesses go for credit, where people know their banker’s name. When those banks disappear, decision-making moves further away from the people and into national or even global institutions.
Think about Sundances point. If you want to control a population, you start by controlling their money. Fewer banks means fewer decision-makers and we get more centralized authority over who gets credit, who gets de-banked, and who plays by the rules. A concentrated financial system makes it far easier to enforce top-down policies and stifle dissent through economic pressure. Decentralized banking isn’t just about access to loans—it’s about freedom.
“Thank you for your attention to this matter”- President DJT.
We bank locally, have our own banker who knows us by name, and who works WITH us, not against us.
You analyzed the problem in every economic sector. Small business is being eliminated. They used Covid to shut down small business and keep open big business. Fewer businesses are easier to control by Big Government. All sectors of the economy need to have the big companies broken up.
Remember Ma Bell getting broken up into 6 baby bells. Competition and Innovation exploded. That is the beauty of true capitalism.
Worth the one minute watch
This is what I voted for. It’s working when DC is afraid.
Was he talking about BITE ME’s regime?
Well, that certainly is a feel good video. Cheers to President Trump!
It’s much worse on Republicans when the democrats do it because they abuse power,
At least the democrats will get a fair trial, of course that doesn’t help much when you’re guilty.
They aren’t adversaries of the President as they claim.
They’re adversaries of America.
I hope they get what they deserve.
Propaganda! He has “never seen the fear before”? Then he was not concerned to see it when Joe Biden’s henchmen and Obama-lites were terrorizing conservatives. Start with President Trump, General Flynn and his family, Manafort, Guilani, those still indicted in Georgia on RICO charges, Att. Eastman, EVERY single person who came to DC to support their President on J6, POTUS family members.
Absolute bull, as usual, NYT. Been a while since I had such a strong urge to smack a smug lying face.
They need to be afraid!
Hoax on Hoax? Ex-CIA Official Susan Miller Was Not an Author of Key Intelligence Community Assessment, as Claimed
A former CIA official is suddenly making the rounds everywhere on national media to call Tulsi Gabbard and other officials liars, claims that proved ironic
The only reason those people have to be afraid is if they’re complicit in the treason.
Volume is too low.
GOOD! They’re afraid? GOOD!!!
Its called GUILT.
Shades of Stephanopolous, with a soupcon of Tapper. These hacks define “sanctimonious.”
This has been over a century in the making.
We have a duty to our posterity to oppose these would be tyrants.
What the U.S. Marshalls are to the Judicial Branch; the FBI is to the DC system, and the CIA are to the bankers.
I think this is the first negative I’ve seen towards the marshalls. What have I missed?
The end of Q.
“R” is queued up next. “Q,R,S….said The Count!
The US Marshalls are sitting back doing nothing while the tyrants in black robes are handcuffing MAGA.
I think it’s about who’s protecting who ..
Funny thing about this is it could easily back-fire. Tighter rates for a while could be just what the economy needs after 4 years of an Easy Money orgy – it wouldn’t surprise me at all if it stabilized the system even more! MAGA!
I was thinking along those lines too! And maybe the bankers are up to their wazoos in bad /dead loan products which we just are not seeing or cannot see… Not saying JP is a white hat (or a black hat) here, but people seem to forget that -despite Congress’ best delusional efforts, the role of the FED was, is and always has been to protect the bankers.
Which is why we need to shut down the Fed and put the money management back into the Treasury. Force all the big banks to have to compete on the same level as the little guys.
Right, JP is sort of the Mr. Magoo of Fed Chairman – although he is indeed very insincere he’s also so timid, late, and blind about everything by the time it all shakes out in a Trump environment his net impact ends up being a little bit positive by accident – that could very well be the case here.
Our VSGPDJT will fire him. He has the bully pulpit, and it will be the right thing to do for America. The majority will back him.
Hope so, pretty sure the POTUS can’t stand the guy, like the rest of us can’t stand Jerome either.
why did PDJT appoint this guy in the first place?
Former Trump Treasury Secretary, Steve Mnuchin
He didn’t realize that the hissing sound was a negative attribute and not a positive attribute.
Same concept as setting a backfire.
Controlled burn. Emphasis on controlled.
You have a choice as you are looking at a long planned, unavoidable world destroying bubble that was to be the end game to lead the whole world into WWIII, just like the Great Depression led into WWII. You can either let 1929 and 2008 play on repeat, or you can force the pop a little early while you have some leverage and some control – enough to control the response so as to flip the momentum and change the outcome, killing the masterminds rather than the intended victims (us).
The debt pile on has not only continued unabated but accelerated since 2015.
Trump 1.0 poured gas on the fire.
Why? Why did he do that?
Theory:
Accelerate. Make it occur while he is President and has Bessent at Treasury, and make sure everyone knows whose fault it is – the Fed is the fall guy. Loudly. Repeated and repeated and repeated. “Too late.” Purposeful.
Powell will be hated. Fated to be hated. I wonder whether he is a willing sacrifice? 8th generation American, and not exactly a Warburg by ethnicity either, is he? Unusual characteristics and background for a Fed chair? How many Fed chairs have been Gentiles? None? Maybe 1? Not a member of any of the old Venetian banking families either. Not a Brit either. (Bessent at Treasury – same same, 8th generation heritage American Gentile.)
Operation Warp Speed.
The only way out is through.
Freedom.
Would the devotee of the Art of War have entered the fray without a lock solid plan to blow up the whole minefield and also control the most powerful (open) player on the gameboard? Remember, “I care not who makes the laws . . .” Mayer A. Rothschild
Team Trump didn’t understand all of that going in?
I don’t think so.
It doesn’t mean there won’t be pain. It just means that after the Everything Bubble blows, we will still have a world and the US will still be powerful country afterwards.
The same may not be true of Basel, Geneva, Rime, Brussels, Amsterdam, and the City of London.
Very stable genius.
On his timing, not the City’s.
Can banks use gold and other precious metals instead of dollars to circumvent interest rates? Is that even possible? I assume, without any basis, that to be covered by FDIC then you must accept interest rates set by the feds.
I am no economists, however, we now know the problem and the tools they use to artificially create these financial meltdowns.
So, what can we do?
End the fed! Yes, Ron Paul is and has always been right regarding that piece of work organization. As it has been said, those who control the money control the world. Good article at the Mises institute.
What is Money? Who Controls Money? | Mises Institute
Getting this message out is very helpful. Thank you Sundance. It needs to go viral.
Everyone I know has made negative comments about the Fed this week and the interest rates. People have had it. Highlighting the fact that they are building themselves a Taj Mahal is helpful too.
“President Trump is pumping money into the USA economy through economic growth, tariff revenue, federal govt downsizing, expanded private sector employment and wage growth.”
And by getting the Europeans to pay for more of the US manufactured weapons going to Ukraine.
What happened to this? s/
https://www.lee.senate.gov/2025/3/sen-mike-lee-and-rep-thomas-massie-introduce-bill-to-end-the-fed
Great question, Patience. Same place all good bills go to die.
We know who the enemy is.
Thank you for the explanation Sundance. Such a huge help! You are the best teacher ever.
Can someone please explain why the Federal Reserve is needed in the US or anywhere else for that matter? Is it’s existence required in the Constitution?
Woodrow Wilson – “progressive” President
Seventeenth amendment passes 1913 direct election of US Senators and loss of state gov’t input
1913 Federal Reserve act
Wilson, the 17th amendment, creation of the Fed and a hole in your wallet.
William Jennings Bryan Rep Neb(D) and Sec of State was instrumental in passing the Fed act. He regretted it.
In my long political career, the one thing I genuinely regret is my part in getting the banking and currency legislation enacted into law. (Quoted by Kenan, The Federal Reserve Bank, p. 127.)
Sen Owen was chair Sen banking committee and spent the rest of his days trying to eliminate the Fed that he helped create.
The three points the founders warned against. Primarily do not put the country’s future in the control of a select few bankers and a central private bank:
1) Thomas Jefferson – If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. (Quoted in ibid., p. 247.)
(The Fed is a private bank)
2) When the U.S. Prints Its Own Currency It Has to Pay Interest on ItThe second deception in the whole Federal Reserve System is the fact that the private banks which own the stock in the Federal Reserve System charge the United States interest for borrowing the country’s own currency! Money created from thin air but you and I as citizens are obligated to guarantee it and make it good.
3) As we mentioned earlier, fractional banking was invented in Europe around four hundred years ago. It allows a bank to set up a “reserve” to cover any claims which happen to come in, and then to go ahead and loan many times more money on credit than the “reserve” in the bank. By this means the bank loans out and charges interest on considerable credit it doesn’t even have. For everybody else, it is a fraud to loan, rent, or sell something which does not exist. Fractional banking should have been outlawed many years ago.
Quotes from:
https://nccs.net/blogs/the-urgent-need-for-a-comprehensive-monetary-reform/part-2-how-the-federal-reserve-system-operates-and-why-it-has-failed#1
End the Federal Reserve and unlease America!
What is Debt Spiral?
A debt spiral is a situation where an individual, company, or country finds themselves increasingly unable to manage their debt. This typically begins with the inability to make minimum payments on credit cards, loans, or other financial obligations, leading to the accumulation of debt due to interest rates and late fees. Eventually, it becomes impossible to continue making payments, resulting in defaults and further financial distress.
Debtfare in the war to take down America.
Listen to Tucker and Charlie Kirk. Kirk gets into the problem the next generation is going to face with Debt and not owning anything.
I doubt Sundance put those last two pictures up just for kicks. Kinda like when he talks about hurricanes and how to prep for them. He’s trying to prepare people for stuff they can’t really fathom.
Most Americans are living in a fantasy world of food, water and internet service. Most real MAGA Americans are living in a world that they realize could collapse in a “blink of an eye” but they accept it and are prepared as best they can for the aftermath.
Do we want that to happen? No. Just like we don’t want a tornado to hit our town. But it happens. SHIT happens.
I’m buggin’ in. Can’t bug out. Love those folks who think their fancy generators are gonna save them from starvation. When you have a group of 25-50 bad people who need food, water or guns you better be prepared. Your precious generator now has a BIG BULL EYES on you, your house and your family.
Nobody ever wants to talk about this and neither do I but it’s something that REALLY could happen in this wonderful place we call America. Nobody in Bosnia or (pick a city) thought it could happen there either but IT DID!
I’m not promoting this book nor do I get anything from posting it here but it will open your eyes to what could happen due to the fact that the FED does not want to be destroyed.
But President Donald J. Trump will do his best to do it without destroying the country. It’s a tall task and if any man can do it he can. But he will need our help again. And GOD’s if He so inclines.
Yes, I know some people who live out in what would be considered “the country”. They raise chickens, grow their own vegetables, store meat…and think they will be okay if/when the SHTF. I just smile as they tell me this.
Agree. Nobody will be safe. It will be a free for all and those that live “out there” will eventually have to defend their resources. There is safety in numbers but getting the right number of folks that have the skills (defensive, medicinal, dental, agricultural, mechanical) is not an easy task.
Is the Fed mostly about helping the wealthy and well-connected in high clover?
I think so.
Pity we don’t have Con-gress critters with the guts to just real the 1913 Central Bank law.
Repeal?
They are useless, only making everything worse.
We bailed the banks out to stem the damage when Investment Banks & deposit banks were allowed to merge.
In 1990 the banking elites gave a destruction wish list to Congress to tear down the financial guard rails enacted by our forebearers to correct the damage done to America by the banks circa 1930 (Glass-Steagall, Rule 1.25, etc.).
We are still feeling the repercussions of bank gerrymandering in home values because for decades they have been propping up home values in the foreclosure market by bidding market prices of homes they hold the the paper and carrying costs.
They’ve been doing so since the housing meltdown down and they’re doing it with our money.
It’s outrageous.
How do you as a bank go broke when you can create money through debt?
Greed
The bank may go insolvent but not the big shareholders (See Superior Bank IL).
They’re made whole with our money.
“The Central Bank want’s full control.”
Then it’s time to take the gloves off and declare this is a national security issue and beat back the central bank.
Economic slavery is just as bad as any other slavery under the sun.
I refuse these chains.
I would say it’s WORSE than any other slavery under the sun, considering that Our Lord and Savior said the LOVE of money is the root of all evil.
https://insighttoincite.substack.com/p/mega-post-jewish-expulsion-in-england
Powell’s high interest rates actually offset and outweighs tariff revenues. President Trump said…
“Each point that this gentleman keeps up costs us $365 billion a year,” the President said while highlighting the massive income from tariffs and trade deals. “We should be the lowest interest rate, and we’re not. We’re 38, number 38, because of the Fed.”
Fed interest rates are at least 2% (more like 3%) higher than necessary costing Americans $730 Billion a year in just federal borrowing costs alone. That’s more than double even the best tariff revenue estimate. Powell has the excuse of high tariffs and he’s using it!
In 2007 the 30 year mortgage was 6%
in 2024 the 30 year mortgage was 6.8%
So all of sudden we are falling off a cliff?
Treasury Secretary Bessent should announce that the official treasury funds rate is 3.25% effective immediately for 30 day bills. Ignore Too Late. Then establish a UST auction by coopting the FRB auction platform. IOW, deplatform the FRB.
Is this legal and practical? Has it ever been done before?
Sounds like a great idea and your name is “Bill” which might be an omen!
You’re sounding like an MMTer, though most those guys argue you control inflation through tax policy.
Control inflation through tax policy by balancing spending with taxation…….balanced budget
9 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go to Pharaoh and say to him, ‘This is what the Lord, the God of the Hebrews, says: “Let my people go, so that they may freely serve me.”
They are the Pharaohs of today. They will meet the same fate.
Why should the USA have to pay vigorish to a group of unknown shareholders who have not been audited for printing our money??
We should be printing our own.
And they want us to pay for the renovation of their building????
NUTS!
Economies are non-linear, and whilst I agree with what you are saying, there is another side to this story that works in favour of Trump and main street against the globalists.
High interest rates attract foreign direct investment which leads to greater economic growth and more demand for the US dollar. That should keep the currency price high. A higher currency value means you can buy more with your dollar, especially foreign imports, and that is anti-inflationary.
The secondary effects of the Fed’s monetary policy settings are helpful to Trump because they are inherently anti-inflationary and pro private sector economic growth.
In the end, the strength of the economy will drive the system to a state that reflects the strength of the real economy. The Fed is fighting reality here. As long as Trump contains Government spending, drives economic growth and wages, the Fed’s interest rate will be irrelevant.
Would lowering taxes help alleviate this debt situation?
Would this be a good time to slash the Federal Reserve’s Washington D.C. building plans?
Reducing interest rates by 1% would help, but I believe we’re already below the average historical interest rate.
1. Our spending is out of control, and we just added more debt w BBB. Cuts – always next time.
2. The Covid splurge wasn’t stripped out of the BBB, eh?
3. DOD is spending $1 Trillion, and we aren’t at war!! No DOGE cuts there so far.
4. Congress is slow walking rescission bills to cut spending. Why not a $100 Billion rescission bill?!
5. DOGE has identified $300 Billion in cuts, which is great. $700 Billion to go. Are they on track? Who is their leader now?
6. We could really turn the ship w more substantial cuts, but I don’t see that as President Trump’s passion. Sadly, I think revenues will spike, and when Democrats get back in power, the UniParty will spend like fools – as we go over the cliff.
7. Thune / Johnson preventing 200+ appointees from being confirmed is GOP slow walking.
MTG has said the GOP UniParty can’t wait for President Trump to be gone, which means they’re not pragmatic, MAGA, or practical.
The EU has cut interest rates eight times in the past two years! Canada, Japan and South Korea are all lower than the United States, as well. We need to be 2 points lower based on the inflation rate and our growth. Powell would be tripping over himself to lower rates if Kamala Harris was President.
I know she is right. The biggest pretenders of them all CONGRESS.
I am sure Trump foresaw this ugly path by Powell and his fed gang. Let us pray he can find a way out of this mess. Powell must go as he is clearly evil to the core and bought and sold. And other fed members -can they be replaced? Can Powell be replaced before he terms out? We can pray for discernment for Trump and his economic team. With God all is possible.
I am firmly on the side of Powell here. The trillions of dollars that Biden emitted into the economy with his profligate spending have to come back out, and the only way to do that is high(er) interest rates. 4.25-4.5 percent is not high. 15-20 percent is high, historically.
If anything, the Fed rate should be two whole points or more higher.
The near zero rates of the recent past should be seen as the historical aberration that they are. They would be, if the US population had a memory longer than a goldfish.
The ECB interest rate is 2.15% and the EU is in lot more economic trouble than the United States. We should be 2 points lower at 2.5% at a minimum.
Obviously, Powell is not intimidated by PT. Time for PDJT to make him so.
Just to be sure, the FED did not vote to go 5 trillion more into additional debt.
A bit silly to accuse the FED of starting a debt spirtal. Running huge deficits has been the way of the past US admins.
Trump I did it, Obama did it. Bush did it. Biden did it. Trump 2 continues it.
Even worse, Trump was petitioning Powell to lower the interest rates so he could go into MORE debt CHEAPER and save on interest payments while rolling over existing debt. Doh.
We can just admit the Trump 2 admin does not want to balance the books or lower deficit spending.
That’s fine. Just dont want to be spinning stories how its Jerome Powells fault. Just own the bad fiscal policy then. Call a spade a spade.
President Trump recomended Congress National Endowment for Democracy receive zero, zilch, nada for funds. Congress gave 315,000,000 million dollars + contracts woth even more. All NED does is fund the Democratic Socialists of America. Trump is NOT trying to increase our debt but congress is.