Massie is going to be a problem.

Okay…while we wait…something about someone being obnoxious and disliked….

And all y’all knew at some point I would post this….

Treepers: Our resident classicist and phenomenal poster, Ausonius, has shared with us a great German word for all that is going on today: Strassentheater (or roughly, street theater).

Thats all this is…the BBB will pass. The holdouts need to play their predesignated roles; the Media needs to ramp up the angst and drama (like the background music in Jaws) and when it passes, all the performers high five, and walk off the stage arm-in-arm.

Their principles end when the vacation bell is about to ring.

Can’t see how you can be in a ‘freedom’ caucus and vote for your country to stay under siege. Don’t get me started on what I think of our representatives having clubs that serve the interest of that club rather than the people who elected them. Want to make America better. Get rid of those clubs. Put them back to serving those who elected them. .

Finally, got it done to 7 holdouts and the vote is 213 Yea, and 212 Nay.

Course, one of the holdouts may vote Nay.

Another baseline + budget.
I hear a few good things.
Probably just sugar coating on the poison pill.
There is just too much all at once, and every CR is like Christmas for Politicians.
They don’t care it isn’t THEIR money at all.

so what? the only things that matter are permanent tax cuts, and $100 B for DHS (illegal immigrant deportations). 2nd tier: reduced regs, full expense deductions to keep $ rolling into investment; support key military improvements. 3rd tier: everything else.

Susan Kokinda discusses Donald Trump’s unique approach to American politics, highlighting his resistance to public sector cuts and his efforts to revive the American economy through tariffs, immigration reform, and tax policy. She contrasts Trump’s policies with traditional austerity measures, often propagated by British-influenced economics and conservative groups. Kokinda also addresses Trump’s significant geopolitical moves, including efforts to end conflict in Africa and reduce America’s involvement in perpetual wars. As America’s 250th birthday approaches, Kokinda emphasizes the ongoing struggle between American sovereignty and British globalist influences, urging viewers to join a movement supporting Trump’s vision for a sovereign American future.

My hunch is that this will be sent back to the Senate with revisions… I imagine it will be weeks before it is passed….Unless this is all Kabuki theater

I’m really going to be pissed if Massie and his posse block the bill.
I may only be a little ol’ farmer, but I have reach…

And Elon is in the permanent circular file.

Thank you, Sundance. Time for all to Double Down and Do It.

To Freedom Caucus: phone home.

So is it true or not that taxpayer funded transgender surgeries are still in the bill? What about not fully removing illegals from Medicaid? Simple yes or no. Seems more than reasonable to expect them to not be included. If in there, get those out and pass the bill. Jeesh!

<sigh>

I suppose this thing is “safe and effective”

Only way this would be big and beautiful would be if it cut us gov spending in half

Going to make this short and sweet. Nice try slick but you made some pot hole errors that exposes your leftward anti-MAGA tilt that raise serious questions about validity of your doom and gloom everything is lost diatribe. Note tax cuts on personal income do not cost the government anything. In fact, historically every tax cut has generated increased revenue to the government. With respect to the deficit/debt while this bill was being processed through the House and Senate the deficit/debt theorectically went down approximately $2 trillion as a result of early tariff revenues and the impact of DOGE actions. And of course that does not take into account the finalized full impact of the tariffs and increasing impact of the exponential savings that has and will continue to occur with the government efficiency effort (reduced employees, eliminated agencies and sold vacated government properties). Last but not least every deported illegal represents paydown the debt money. Also, note if the House and Senate bill are different, they have to be reconciled. But the bottom line is trusting POTUS Trump. He’s got a good track record and has delivered before whereas the RINOs (including some HFC members and so-called MAGA supporters) and of cource Democrats always flame out because of their lies plus false projections. So good luck slick because the guy in the POTUS chair knows more about lighting a fire under this country’s economic potential and other key elements than all the co-called experts and oponents.

Is this latest 15 minute vote turning into a record at over 4 hours long and still going?

Speaker Johnson has left to pick up his wife.

There are 4 Republican holding everything up. Since they are not petitioning Speaker Johnson or meeting with President Trump there is only one other thing they are doing. They are talking with the Dems in my view. The Dems have been calling for exactly four Republican to turn on their constituents.

Disgusting and traitorous to their voters if true. Does anyone know why they are holding out now otherwise?

One of the reasons why there is always a group of Republican “holdouts” when there is an important bill that the Republican leadership must make sure is passed is because those holdouts know that leadership is going to come to them with all kind of offers that the holdouts desire, usually having to do with bringing home the bacon or something else that the voters in their states or districts want. And so eventually leadership will pick off just enough of the holdouts to pass the bill. And if the bill is really important, then the price each Republican holdout demands will be very high. Happens every time.

On the other side, Democrat leadership typically handles it differently. Since increasingly the Democrat party nowadays is a leftwing party of European outlook, their leadership insists on something called party discipline. There are few holdouts, if any, because it is not the holdouts who demand a price, it is the leadership that exerts a price if any of them dare holdout and not vote the right way. How they handle it is most often to extract one of two kinds of price. First, if you really want to vote against the party, then forget about getting that committee assignment you really desire and have been waiting for. Or, you may lose one or more of the committee assignments you already have.

Or for the second kind of price, you might just get primaried in the next election. For members who toe the line, the Democrats try hard to have only one candidate going into a primary, but if you don’t toe the line, they may arrange an opponent for you. And you won’t just have an opponent, but you will find all the party campaign money and all the best donor money will go to your new opponent. You really don’t want that.

This is how the Democrats almost always enforce party discipline, and it is why we so seldom hear about Democrat holdouts. Republicans almost never pay a price for being a holdout – they always get offered something of value not to be a holdout. Like Murkowski in the Senate just got a big rural healthcare package that she really wanted to bring home to Alaska, which she needs because she is not too popular these days.

Republicans in the leadership need to learn how to keep members in line more like the Democrats do.

Breitbart is reporting positive signs bill will pass tonight.

Ralph Norman has been a major opponent of the bill, so his comment below surprised me:

“Breitbart News Deputy Political Editor Bradley Jaye reported in a post on X that Rep. Ralph Norman (R-SC) had “suggested that the White House is making progress closing the deal” on the Trump-backed bill.”

“Our meeting opened a lot of questions that we want to make sure is right,” Jaye wrote in his post, adding that Norman said, “The White House enlightened holdouts how its implementation” the Big, Beautiful Bill “would accomplish what they want, but wouldn’t give specifics.”

Also per a Politico reporter says Mike Johnson “stated that the House of Representatives was going to get the bill “there tonight,” adding that they were “working on it and very, very positive” about the progress.”
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/07/02/white-house-closes-in-on-house-passage-of-trumps-big-beautiful-bill/

Republicans all talking down their own bill. What a pack of morons.

What the hell are these GOP holdouts gonna argue? “We just had to allow the largest tax increase in history to screw the taxpayers.”

OR, “We have to allow ALL illegal immigrant trespassers to get federal Medicaid benefits paid for by American taxpayers.”