I post the direct statements from President Trump on the calls with Russian President Vladimir Putin because if you read the background, both before and after the Israel strike operation, you can clearly see the strategy. [Check Dates]
President Trump is doing what modern U.S officials never did, showing respect to the aligned nuclear powers and positioning any action for the least amount of geopolitical collateral damage. President Trump knows one of the key geopolitical influences upon Iran is the Russian Federation.
You do not have to be pro or anti-Trump to understand how executive level respect and diplomacy works. This is why the leadership of the Russian Federation respect Trump (firm but thoughtful), even if they are in opposition to his positions.
Remember the statements yesterday in Canada, at the G7, specifically about the Russian sanctions. These statements above should be read with the context of before and after the strikes in Iran began; then overlay the statements yesterday about the sanctions. There is a very clear message conveyed.
President Trump does not want a targeted problem to escalate into a regional geopolitical conflict. So, he takes proactive and ongoing steps to ensure containment. This is the part that French President Macron (doofus) cannot intellectually conceptualize; hence, President Trump’s curt remarks.
Even before the Israeli operation against Iran began, President Trump draws safe proactive perimeters that all traditional agents of governmental influence can understand.
Like you, I completely do not want expanded conflict that could potentially draw the U.S. into something far more dangerous. However, I also don’t see that as a likely outcome. President Trump is in the support position to eliminate the threat of nuclear weapons from Iran; let him work without our dark imaginings injecting something that does not exist.
Don’t buy clicks and hype. Just focus on the prudent approach evidenced in the honest analysis of Trump’s considerations. He’s not shooting from the hip. If you understand this, if you can see this in Trump’s words and deeds, then contrast with Macron.
KANANASKIS, Alberta — French President Emmanuel Macron on Tuesday opposed bringing down the Iranian regime violently as he warned of potentially destabilizing effects across the Middle East.
“The biggest mistake today would be to try to do a regime change in Iran through military means because that would lead to chaos,” Macron told reporters on the last day of the G7 summit in Canada, warning that “no one can say what comes next.”
“We never support actions of regional de-stabilization,” he added.
Macron’s remarks come as fears snowball over the U.S. potentially joining Israel’s military campaign in Iran, which began late last week and has crippled Iranian nuclear sites and killed top regime officials.
German Chancellor Friedrich Merz said on Tuesday that U.S. President Donald Trump was indeed considering that option. On his way back to the U.S. yesterday evening, Trump said he wanted a “real end” to the conflict and that he was “not too much in a mood to negotiate.”
Macron mentioned forced regime changes carried out by the U.S. and NATO allies in Iraq and Libya as past mistakes that should not be repeated, given they had birthed subsequent deadly political instability. (read more)
As we watch how President Trump is navigating this, I can see a strong, thoughtful leadership position within the big picture. A politician like Emmanuel Macron could never fathom calling an ‘adversary’ (Putin) to talk about a potential conflict with a positioned ally (Iran) of that adversary.
President Trump has taken that proactive action with Putin specifically to avoid the ‘expanded conflict’ outcome that is driving the fear wedge within MAGA. These conversations with Putin are EVIDENCE of Trump’s intent not to create collateral conflict, and it looks like Vladimir Putin understands him.
Unless Israel has “tricks up its sleeve,” as PM Netanyahu suggested, I expect the B-2 Spirit bombers, based in Diego Garcia, to head for Iran in a day or two, carrying 30k-lb ‘bunker busters’ that will destroy the underground nuclear facilities in Iran.
That will be the end, for now, of the Mullahs’ nuclear ambitions, and Israel’s continued air war will likely mean the end of the Shi’a Nazi regime; doubtless the Ayatollah will flee.
With any luck, an America-friendly Iranian government will look to President Trump for trade deals and cooperation with Israel that will mean a new era of prosperity and good will in the Middle East.
Remember, you heard it here first.
I think the B-2s already left headed toward the mission, today. At least I thought that’s what Jennifer Griffin said earlier today.
Jennifer wants war.
and hates Trump and then will blame him for escalation.
Yes she and her employer do
Agree. Don’t like her.
Jennifer’s butt.
Everyone knows we have massive military exercises pre-planned for June every year.
would not believe anything she says. she has an agenda.
Jennifer Griffin?? Seriously?
Yes
A country that gives itself permission to go into other countries and kill whomever it likes is not a country that engenders feelings of peace and goodwill.
“A country that gives itself permission to go into other countries and kill whomever it likes is not a country that engenders feelings of peace and goodwill.”
No Sherlock, ummm.
“When you’ve got ’em by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.”
Ah yes, the Darth Vader model of Empire…
Empire? The only foreign land we claim as ours would be Embassies and the cemeteries where we buried our dead, you should be familiar with their sacrifices, it was those sacrifices that enable you to disparage the Nation, and the men and women who protected it allowing you to not only grow, but to developed and express the opinions you do. I have no beef with you Hokkoda, been reading your contributions for a long time now, I do however take issue with the Empire claim so many profess us to be.
We may not possess it totally physically but we are so embedded and good at coups what’s the difference
You mentioned Embassies being a part of our claim of sovereignty. The Ayatollahs are a rogue, illegitimate regime that still has not paid for attacking our embassy and keeping its staff hostage 444 days. And their posture has been hostile to this hour. Forget Israel, the USA, refered to by the mullahs as “The Great Satan”, has been in a state of conflict with the Iranian Islamic Republic since the Autumn of 1979. Trump is cutting the Gordian Knot to close out this chapter.
In the case of the Islamic Republic of Iran, regime change cannot make things worse, but provides a chance to make things better.
For some.reason in some peoples view restraint is only reqiired on one side of tje equation
Trump’s got receipts on two assassination attempts, to say nothing of the 1000s of
Americans killed by proxy via their organized “pets”, terrorists and guerilla thuggery they bankroll
During his first term I watched, in real time, at least 32 assasination attempts, all documented and reported.
Where were you guys, why can’t you even remember them?
Excuses excuses, let’s just keep throwing spaghetti to justify what we want…
That reply is unworthy of even a child.
And both reciepts are stamped “Made in Ukraine” not Made in Iran.
But that’s called: “history.”
What if a large percentage of the population of that country want those people killed? Iran was far more primed for regime change than Iraq back in the day.
The mullahs and their IRGC and Basij don’t exactly win the hearts and minds of their own people.
Yes. The Iranian people (Persians) have been civilized for thousands for years. They speak an Indo-European language (by itself means nothing, but it is another piece of a wider puzzle) and have a history of being a sane people. This changed when WE installed their current clerical leadership. The PEOPLE of Iran are far more ready to join “the rest of the world” more than Iraq ever was. Talk to any Iranian who got out of there, and they kiss Western ground. Talk to Iraqis who got out of there, and while many are glad to be here, it’s more about preserving their ways, which basically means conserving the old Isaac vs Ishmael nonsense.
Do countries that fund and promote terrorism have any right to expect peace and goodwill?
Maybe folk shouldn’t chant DEAT TO AMERICA if they don’t want a JDAM up their arse
So, FDR should have stayed out of the European part of WWII?
Your statement is simplified by you so that it sounds somewhat reasonable,,,but it misses the mark of Reality considering that humans have been at war with each other since Adam and Eve were kicked out of the Garden.
“With any luck, an America-friendly Iranian government will look to President Trump for trade deals and cooperation with Israel”
MMMMNNN… That’s the dream right there, isn’t it?
Don’t stop chasing it.
“Remember, you heard it here first.”
Oh we’ll remember…
Be sure to bring some of yer holiday snaps along, showing us all the smiling faces of all those grateful, liberated Iranians.
Just smacks of “,.. we will ne greeted as liberators!” doesn’t it?
You’ve got it Dutch.
When viewed through the prism of past mistakes, maybe. But I never understand why otherwise sensible people get so wrapped around the axle on things like this.
This is a different conflict at a different time with a different President.
If nothing can ever change, why get out of bed in the morning? If the ending is pre-determined, why do anything?
When you give up on change, you resign yourself to defeat. So, I say continue to dream of a better future where Iran is a peaceful neighbor in the Middle East. It might be hard to imagine but why surrender your ability to envision a better future to fear?
…the Mullahs’ nuclear ambitions
The President’s Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, testified in March that U.S. intelligence agencies believed Iran has not “taken steps toward assembling a nuclear weapon.”
…B-2 Spirit bombers, based in Diego Garcia, to head for Iran in a day or two, carrying 30k-lb ‘bunker busters’ that will destroy the underground nuclear facilities in Iran.
According to Scott Ritter, the bunker busters won’t achieve this result.
With any luck, an America-friendly Iranian government will look to President Trump for trade deals and cooperation with Israel that will mean a new era of prosperity and good will in the Middle East.
Yes, as our history of regime change in Middle Eastern countries has shown…oh, wait…
Scott Ritter isn’t exactly a valuable source of intelligence.
Lol, sooooo true. The man is a proven liar.
Notice her carefully precise wording” has not taken steps to assembling”.
I recall reading Israel maintained deniability of having Nukes, by designing theirs for quick assembly, with specially trained teams that like a marine dissassembling their rifle, could assemble the varios components in a few minutes.
Our history of regime change is it only gets worse. You are correct. Iran is a little different though, if only because their radicalization has been very recent (historically). They were, and still are at their core, a civilized people. We f*cked up Iran to begin with. Regime change there is one of the few places on Earth that I might have some optimism about in my cold, black, dead heart.
I’m not sure why the Israelis just don’t use robots and drones to infiltrate Fordow.
If I were the night watchman at that facility, I might think about calling in sick the next few days…….
heard
I heard it here first but I don’t keep score.
The latest publicly available satellite pictures show that the are now only 2 B-52s there, a few days ago there were 4, with no evidence of B-2 since they all left a month or so ago.
Currently, now Iran’s AD is back to about 75% efficiency, the IAF is not sending manned aircraft into Iranian airspace. The effective attacks they are making are using cruise missiles, big drones from Israel and locally launched small drone plus local sabotage.
The B-2 has yet to attack an enemy with a real and modern AD system like the combo Iran/Russian system Iran has so its performance, whilst likely good, shouldn’t be taken for granted.
As I said yesterday this is existential to Iran. Not that long ago they fought a bitter 8 year WW1 like war with Iraq (Saddam). Iraq didn’t and won’t do surrender.
As Cruz admitted on Carlson, he had no idea of its population size, which is 90M or so. So a large and well educated country, four times the size of France or twice Ukraine.
This is another case of if you want to defeat a bigger opponent make sure its quick or they will grind you down.
So, you are all aboard the regime change train. Since it always works out so well for us.
Yes, it never does. Part of it is the people under the regime are not ready/compatible with Western Civilization. Also, I think part of it is that the West is always playing some sort of game, and invoking regime change while also trying to preserve conflict, because there is money to be made. Are “we” the baddies? Only partially, but maybe we should stop playing games with baddies. Leave them alone or exterminate them. What are we doing?
Tell me this isn’t true…..
https://twitter.com/DMichaelTripi/status/1935163808559030744
Why? Of course it’s true. President Trump has long said Iran cannot have atom bombs.
Haha no. The talking points to “influencers.” I wonder who the influencers are on the rapid response mailing list.
They are not talking points if the comments are actually true, which in this care they are. You only need talking points for influencing when you’re trying to cover up a lie.
The truth is the truth.
So your assertion is that people voting for Trump in November would have been just fine, upon hearing a Trump rally, knowing we’d be ant war with Iran 5 months into his presidency?
That takes some chutzpah and some SERIOUS gaslighting.
If I were a B2 pilot tasked with dropping a 30,000 lb bomb on Iran, I would first update my will because no B2 has ever flown into a country defended with Russian S400 air defense systems.
A B2 bomber would be a sitting duck!
Same for the F-35 too.
I just don’t believe Iran has no air defenses left and Israel has complete air superiority over Iran.
The last time they told us Russia was running out of missiles!
I suspect, we are being lied to again.
That’s what air superiority means.
Israel must be convinced they’ve taken out their air defenses.
There is a difference between “air superiority” and “air supremacy.”
Sure I guess. But you need air superiority before you have air supremacy.
Sorry, wasn’t critiquing you…just letting readers know these are military terms with specific meanings.
Correct. Superiority = bigger, meaner,faster
Supremacy = you don’t fly,period.
So show us, Israel. Fly a few of your own aircraft over Tehran and report the results.
I believe they are.
Bless your heart if you believe that
B-52s are a distraction, a bogeyman the whole world is familiar with.
If we do go in it with GBUs it would more likely than not be delivered via a B1 out of Missouri. S400 will never reach it.
This isn’t a game and we don’t risk assets if we don’t have to.
Keep up.
If you were paying attention, you may have heard Trump say, innumerable times, that Iran will not have a nuclear weapon. Even the International Atomic Energy Agency advised that Iran was about 80% there.
People who have wanted Iran’s leadership smashed since 1979? Yeah.
When you’re about to break one of your marquee campaign promises, it’s important to try and convince people you planned to go to war with Iran all along.
Even though they voted for you because you said you weren’t going to keep getting us into wars.
If I was Putin, I would now fully understand what Trump means by “negotiations” and plan accordingly in Ukraine by targeting all of Ukraine’s leaders.
What’s the over/under on Trump winning last fall if people knew he planned to be at war in Iran within 5 months?
Btw, we know it’s true because Sundance posted a Tom Cotton interview last weekend and he used the phrase “remarkably consistent for 10 years” after being asked why Trump was breaking major campaign promise.
I – and MANY – voted for Donald J. Trump for a myriad of reasons, some more important, some less so.
This great president NEVER hid the fact that he abhors wars and loss of human life while, at the same time, planning to win quickly and decisively if the circumstances ask for it.
I am ready to consider the presidential candidate Hokkoda in 2028 (for Old Joe it’s too late, the senile jerk may not make it). Make your case, enter the primaries, the strength of your agenda will be duly considered by the voters.
Until then, it’s better to shut up than to blather endlessly.
Impotent kibbitzes are a dime a dozen. A baker’s dozen.
May you be too indisposed when the time comes.
Recall PDJT launched 50 cruise missiles, even as he lunched with Chairman Xi, but when Iran shot down a unmanned drone, he refused to take the bait.
As in all things including military actions its all about America First.
Cotton is another derp who twists the truth for his own agenda. Trump’s not dragging us into war. Things aren’t always as they seem.
Really? You really believe Trump wants us to get into a war? Trump has not broken a campaign promise that I know of. And even if he did, he would be in the minority of Presidents that did so.
“no new taxes”
Your quoting one of the most despicable humans to ever walk the earth, and comparing Pres. Trump to him(at the very least equating them).
You should be ashamed of yourself.
“Even though they voted for you because you said you weren’t going to keep getting us into wars.”
He said “endless wars”. This is not an open-ended protracted campaign where the actual objective and end state has not been clearly defined from the beginning. This action is being taken to specifically neuter Iran’s nuclear capabilities. He is making the region, and the world, a safer place.
Shall we review the campaign promises? What are you having trouble with? The cancellation of the Iran deal? Or the absolute obliteration of a recalcitrant regime that is trying to assassinate our President?
There’s two kinds of trolls, the hopelessly immature naive and the cunning agents of chaos.
Make up your mind which one you want to be. Pathetic
Hokkoda is not a troll however this does not sound like the individual that I have given an upvote to many of their comments over the past couple of years.
Facts are a funny thing Old Joe.
They are truths.
Yes they are,tricky little devils, for instance….
If I said the earth was flat, in the context of building a road or a structure i.e. a home. Then yes its a factual statement.
It all falls apart in the context of charting the course of a transcontinental flight.
oh brother…
X says, ” Hmm…this page doesn’t exist.“
true
“Fifteen Nine Elevens” – Old Joe
https://rumble.com/v3qhf4x-bribery-biden-likens-attack-on-israel-to-fifteen-911s.html
Dead X link as of 0830, 6-18-25.
Dear god, please save us from a world war. Please let this conflict end in deal making and bring greater stability to the region and the world. There is nothing to gain and everything to lose for the average American.
If the Mullahs get run out of town, will th3 Regional Muslim countries allow Iran to go unscathed from having a civil war?
That is my biggest concern here.
It’s not our civil war.
The Saudis would definitely welcome an Iran that just stayed on its side of the street and wasn’t a threat. The Turks? Who knows what Erdogan will think from one day to the next, but they could be convinced to stand back and see if a more neutral Iran might be advantageous. Pakistan might be butthurt, but then again they’d be the beneficiary of more China bucks, so they might be happy, and they have their own problems.
Any nuke in Iranian hands is a Shia nuke, Saudi will have no other option but to embrace Pakistan and purchase them.
When everyone has a nuke the are no longer a deterrent.
“let him work without our dark imaginings injecting something that does not exist.”
Are you the teacher in the classroom?
If you’re referring to Sundance:
Why, yes he is.
We Treepers of old know and appreciate that fact.
Absolutely! He eased my mind considerably! And I’ve been a lurker for years until now.
You just might be in the wrong place if you’re asking that question….
That is why we come to this site.
Did you just land here parachuted from Radio Tehran, “David”?
Duh.
Readers are here, to a very considerable extent, because of Sundance.
Nobody’s here because of you or me.
True dat !
Well it is his website so in essence yes.
New here?
classroom
If you don’t know who the mark in the room is, it may be you.
I’m from ROOM 101 and I work at the Ministry of Love.
Kidding. I just made that up.
I’m comforted by the knowledge that we’re just one more bunker buster bomb away from world peace.
And what’s a few hundred thousand more alien refugees in Ohio?
Nobody wants to talk about what comes next because we already know what comes next from the last FIVE TIMES we tried this madness.
Damn!
I wish I had your Crystal Ball!!
Then I would never have to worry or wait for the end result, however long it takes.
Imagine that if you will.
Don’t need a crystal ball, just a rearview mirror.
Ohhh goodie!
Another Armchair Quarterback!
These are all apparent* armchair quarterback postings.
Including the articles themselves.
(* The articles and some of the reader comments are evidently COINTEL: Manipulating perceptions and collecting intel on readers by their postings.)
COINTEL
“Everything is the opposite of what it should be.” – 47
Strzok was the cointel-swinger marinating in the Russian P of his lover’s husband.
You don’t need overpriced counter intelligence if you have artificial intelligence.
No, just the parent of an Air Force CSO who will have to fight these wars for you.
I thank them for their service. As an Air Force CSO they have been targeted multiple times already, even when we are not at war, given the nature of their duties.
It is the nature of the service.
Ooh…Burn! 🔥🔥🔥
History teaches but one lesson, can you handle that lesson?
We remain as we have been for 4.5 million years….separate tribes all competing for the earth’s limited resources with the only difference being today the tribes are much larger, much more complex, and far more lethal than ever before. So what’s the lesson?
There will always be another war, your options are prepare for it or perish in it.
The flaw in your thinking is that age old lie…History repeats. No it doesn’t, human nature does.
If the same people rob my house five times, I don’t need a crystal ball.
No, you need a shotgun.
comforted
When you’re always right, you’re never wrong.
madness
I mentioned… over the coming years we will witness a mass psychosis…
Nation building crusades were popular with Europeans until the Surrender of Granada.
Columbus predicted he would find a new route to the center of the known world.
He never made it, but he made predictions in later life about what comes next.
https://www.historytoday.com/archive/feature/crusades-complete-history
I challenge the people that say “Iran is building a nuclear bomb” to provide one concrete piece of evidence.
I am no sloucher so I contribute my piece of evidence in the contrary that Tulsi Gabbard testified before the senate in March 2025 that where was no evidence that Iran was currently developing a nuclear bomb.
She is the DNI so she should know, right?
It was also testified that if they were to start developing one now, Iran would need at least 3 years to make the necessary progress.
The people who want war with Iran are telling you a lie.
I would tell them to start looking for those WMD’s in Iraq as well.
Also challenge your thinking, why is this the USA’s problem to be the arbiter of the world?
If anything and Iran would be a “rogue state” it will have to go through UN Security Council. Then it would be a WORLD matter not a US matter.
I await the evidence of Iran building a nuke forthwith. I am not too bad to change my mind once I see it.
“Also challenge your thinking, why is this the USA’s problem to be the arbiter of the world?
If anything and Iran [sic!] would be a “rogue state” it will have to go through UN Security Council.”
Wow. Now America First means to rely on the decisions of Pakistan, Algeria, China, Russia, Guiana, France, and Sierra Leone.
I’d rather let President Trump decide, if y’all don’t mind.
Sierra Leone….SMH. Can’t we just cut the U.N. loose?
How many years has Iran been three years away…?
They get to 6 month away about every decade, until Israel knocks them back yet again. Enough. Obliterated it.
Please see:
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/statements/iaea-director-generals-introductory-statement-to-the-board-of-governors-3-march-2025
See also:
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/statements/iaea-director-generals-introductory-statement-to-the-board-of-governors-9-june-2025
You have to scroll through each document to find the parts about Iran.
I’ve gone ahead and quoted the relevant portion from the first link, from March 3.
(Sure does make one wonder about DNI T. Gabbard’s testimony)
Madame Chairperson,
Regarding the issue of Iran’s nuclear programme, you have before you my latest report on verification and monitoring in the Islamic Republic of Iran in light of United Nations Security Council Resolution 2231 (2015).
Following my last report, Iran’s stockpile of uranium enriched up to 60% U‑235 has increased to 275 kg, up from 182 kg in the past quarter. Iran is the only non-nuclear weapon State enriching to this level, causing me serious concern.
It has been four years since Iran stopped implementing its nuclear-related commitments under the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), including provisionally applying its Additional Protocol and therefore it is also four years since the Agency was able to conduct complementary access in Iran.
You also have before you my report on the NPT Safeguards Agreement with the Islamic Republic of Iran. Iran says it has declared all nuclear material, activities and locations required under its NPT Safeguards Agreement. However, this statement is inconsistent with the Agency’s findings of uranium particles of anthropogenic origin at undeclared locations in Iran. The Agency needs to know the current location(s) of the nuclear material and/or of contaminated equipment involved.
There is also a discrepancy in the material balance of uranium involved in uranium metal production experiments conducted at Jaber Ibn Hayan Mutlipurpose Laboratory, for which Iran has not accounted.
Having stated it had suspended such implementation, Iran still is not implementing modified Code 3.1, which is a legal obligation for Iran.
I am seriously concerned that the outstanding safeguards issues remain unresolved. They stem from Iran’s obligations under its Comprehensive Safeguards Agreement and need to be resolved for the Agency to be in a position to provide assurance that Iran’s nuclear programme is exclusively peaceful.
I deeply regret that Iran, despite having indicated a willingness to consider accepting the designation of four additional experienced Agency inspectors, did not accept their designation.
Also, please just do a search on “stuxnet and Iran” and enjoy all the reading.
Here’s one example.
https://www.csoonline.com/article/562691/stuxnet-explained-the-first-known-cyberweapon.html
Btw, that episode, among others, answers those commenters who wonder how Iran has been (allegedly) close to nukes for so many years. Let’s just say that there have been “setbacks” over the years.
This guy would have made the same arguments against the cold war and the buildup which led to it.
We’ve seen this all before:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/nov/08/george-bush-memoir-decision-points
see
Bolton was DNI.
See this mask, it works.
See this mask, it doesn’t work.
Propaganda only works if people see it.
You may be seeing what you were meant to see.
You may not be seeing what you weren’t meant to see.
If you can see everything you don’t need to see evidence.
If you can’t see everything, it may be because you’re not looking.
If you only have One-Commenter, you may need One-Seer to see it.
Ilhan Omar says that the United States is being “turned into one of the worst countries.”
https://rumble.com/v6ux501-ilhan-omar-says-that-the-united-states-is-being-turned-into-one-of-the-wors.html
If she feels that strongly about it she would resign, correct me if I’m wrong but as a elected government official does she participate in the worsening of our country?
You are inconsequential.
I’m going to ask you a very simple question:
If I have an artillery shell filled with VX gas and I make an IED from it, just because I’m too stupid to know the components won’t be mixed properly before detonation, does it mean I wasn’t intent on using a weapon of mass destruction?
You might want to look a bit further than the evening news. We bought all types of weapons from the warlords, might check if any of our troops needed to be treated for exposure as well.
I challenge YOU to show how anyone could acquire evidence at all. Your first sentence is the only one we need to read. It’s a completely irrational statement which presupposes people have such access. This is a common leftist trap based on a very flawed presumption. So I leave it to you to show that such information, if it existed, is even accessible.
Flawed and false premise is the end of reading.
Now let’s compare wives…..LOL….
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Deep Breath
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Now that’s cold! 🙂
wives
Some wives are more woman than others.
It’s not enough to comply, you must love Stalin.
It’s not enough to feed kids hormones, you gotta eat em too.
I’d like someone, anyone, to produce evidence suggesting Trump would be at war in Iran 5 months into his presidency, and that all his voters were super cool with that…
Hence the massive gaslighting operation claiming he’s been “remarkably consistent”.
In another day and another time, CTH would be pointing out the echo chamber.
I have no idea what you are referring to.
In reality, Congress would have to DECLARE WAR with another country for the USA to be at WAR.
President Trump has not declared WAR upon any country in any way shape or form.
President Trump has stated consistently for many years that Iran “cannot have a nuclear weapon”.
Beyond that, I have no idea what you are referring to, other than stirring the proverbial pot to create dissention and chaos.
That’s not MAGA.
Did Congress declare war with Korea, Vietnam, Iraq 1 &2? Or were those not wars?
“Under customary international law, a state of war is normally taken to exist when hostilities actually begin, whether or not a formal declaration has been issued. “
They were NOT DECLARED WARS.
Like it or not.
Believe it or not.
They were an “occupation”, as I recall and I lived through all of them, along with my family members and friends who were stationed there.
So, Do NOT LECTURE ME
.
2 questions amount to a lecture? Here’s one. Have you been to DC? What are those memorials dedicated to?
One question amounts (hopefully) to an answer.
Do you understand what Congressional Resolutions are?
No, but they authorized use of force. Semantics?
In Korea a Democrat President set a precedent.: “In June 1950, President Truman ordered U.S. troops to Korea without first requesting congressional authority. For legal footing he cited resolutions passed by the Security Council.'”
In Vietnam it was the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution. “On August 7, 1964, Congress passed the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, authorizing President Johnson to take any measures he believed were necessary to retaliate and to promote the maintenance of international peace and security in southeast Asia. This resolution became the legal basis for the Johnson and Nixon Administrations prosecution of the Vietnam War.” – Dept of State Office of the Historian
Iraq:
“Passed Senate without amendment (10/11/2002)
Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 – Expresses support for the President’s efforts to: (1) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and (2) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion, and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions.
Authorizes the President to use the U.S. armed forces to: (1) defend U.S. national security against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and (2) enforce all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq. Directs the President, prior to or as soon as possible (but no later than 48 hours) after exercising such authority, to make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that: (1) reliance on further diplomatic or peaceful means alone will not achieve the above purposes; and (2) acting pursuant to this joint resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. Declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization for use of the armed forces, consistent with requirements of the War Powers Resolution.”
That was my point.
What point? Congressional Declaration of War vs, Congressional Resolution Approving the Use Of Force. Either way Congress has given the action it’s blessing.
See War Powers Resolution of 1973.
I’ve always found it puzzling that after the founding of the UN, and the end of WWII, we have never had an official Declaration of War … It’s been stuff “subject to the Nat’l Security Council”, or some such fluff, as if the US lost its sovereign power to declare war, and surrendered it to the UN??
Just curious. And I don’t like it. Never have.
Only if we plan on taking territory.
Hell, they wouldn’t even hold Slow Joe to his CONSTITUTIONAL OBLIGATION to return to Congress after 60 days of unilateral presidential military action in Ukraine, to obtain Congressional consent (i.e., a declaration of war) under the 1973 War Powers Act.
Those ball-less, spineless, bought off wussy boys can’t do anything constitutional. Disgusting.
Might take a closer look at how those conflicts began. Congress hasn’t declared war since 1942 Declaration of war against Romania. The conflicts you cite were all approved via Congressional Resolutions Approving The Use Of Military Force.
“Policing actions”.
That sounds like the silencing of voices you disagree with. Pretty sure MAGA is about free and open debate. You’re talking about European values.
While the issue may be clear for you, for many in MAGA it is not. That doesn’t make those people not-MAGA.
“Like you, I completely do not want expanded conflict that could potentially draw the U.S. into something far more dangerous. However, I also don’t see that as a likely outcome. President Trump is in the support position to eliminate the threat of nuclear weapons from Iran; let him work without our dark imaginings injecting something that does not exist.
Don’t buy clicks and hype. Just focus on the prudent approach evidenced in the honest analysis of Trump’s considerations. He’s not shooting from the hip. If you understand this, if you can see this in Trump’s words and deeds, then contrast with Macron.” ~ Sundance
I agree with Sundance.
I’m not playing political games of division.
In reality, Congress would have to DECLARE WAR with another country for the USA to be at WAR.
Not true. Congress abdicated its power to the president long ago.
See War Powers Resolution of 1973.
My understanding of the WPR was that it specified that Congress & the President shared a joint determination on the matter of war, because of the power of the Commander in Chief.
When neither Congress nor the Prez will address the issue, and both ignore it together, does the US HAVE ANY JUSTIFICATION to get involved in a war?
It appears that the people have no say whatsoever. Really bothers me, has for years.
lol, Congress hasn’t declared war since 1941. Try again.
Produce evidence that Trump’s voters knew full well we would be at war in Iran by July.
This is not some side issue from the campaign. If he sends in the bombers and joins the war on Israel’s side, he is casting aside a marquee campaign issue.
42, and you’re ignoring very specific details.
Massie is floating not attacking Iran in Congress.
There is a campaign for President and then there is the job of actually being President.
We voted for Trump because we knew he was not a warmonger, and he would wisely use our troops as a last resort with our national interest being the focus. And then there are real events that require a President to make the best decisions he can for our country. No more campaigning.
What if China attacked us tomorrow in Pearl Harbor fashion? There are no guarantees.
I can tell you that Iran has been at war with America for some time. They have been killing Americans for some time. You don’t attack American naval vessels if you’re not a war with them and that is exactly what they’ve been doing through their Houthi proxies.
The Presidents change, the policies stay the same.
That is a simple answer to a complex situation.
You really should hope, no pray, that is not the case.
proxy
Christians were massacred by a Himyarite King(Yemen) as Christianity spread through the Red Sea Region.
The Aksumite Kingdom bordering the E. Roman Empire sent an army to annhilate the Sasanian proxy.
The Aksum were considered a major power in the 3rd century with the Sasanian Empire(Persia).
A Christian Himyarite King was deposed centuries later during the Aksum-Persian wars.
The Sultan of Syria may have attacked Americans when he was in Iraq.
There are no guarantees but you can contrast leadership.
May have?….lol
It’s a complicated world.
Bin Ladin was an ally of the US during the first Afghanistan war.
Today, in Trafalgar (arguably the most accurate pollster, see 2020, 2024 etc.):
What is your opinion of President Trump’s position that Iran must be prevented from developing a nuclear weapon by any means necessary?
74.4% APPROVE
I’m looking forward to seeing video of the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant being completely destroyed.
Given its underground, you may not see much.
One of the 3 stooges is all in – Madman Mertz…
Interesting given Germany’s past support of Iran and its commercial ties.
And Germanys humungous muslim population.
humungous
The United States has a remigration program with cash incentives.
https://x.com/_johnnymaga/status/1934412986635923566
Thank you Sundance! You explained perfectly what I needed to hear. I can trust Trump and understand his position again!
I was around when neocons like Bill Kristol worked with George W Bush and Colin Powell to whip up war hysteria over phones “WMD” to attack Iraq at Israel’s direction. When Bush’s con was revealed, his presidency was desolate. Trump is acting as Israel’s puppet contrary to his own and Americas interests. And if he continues to pursue his current course, Trump will destroy his presidency just as Busj did his.
destroy
They’re not after him, they’re after you.
“He came to me to make sure I was supporting his sound policies. Of course, since his sound policies are more like the policies people like me have been advocating for quite a while, I’m happy to support them. He’s a born-again neo-con.”
Bill Kristol declares Obama ‘a born-again neo-con’ days after consulting with him on Libya policy
https://dailycaller.com/2011/03/30/bill-kristol-declares-obama-a-born-again-neo-con-days-after-consulting-with-him-on-libya-policy/
No one, including President Putin, wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon. Trump ran on this very platform. Those who now decide that Tucker Carlson or whichever opposing voice, is more ‘prudent’ needs to think again. Even the Iranian people – those who are not radical fundamentalists – want regime change in Iran. They’ve been waiting for this for almost 50 years. President Trump does not see Putin as an ‘adversary’, IMHO. Actually, I think that, they get along rather well. And that’s a good thing.
Well hell, if it’s that easy, lets just fix every country with a little shock & awe? Kind of like an overbearing HOA for the world. What could go wrong?
Trust President Trump to do the right thing.
Israel should keep bombing to destroy as much as they can. This will create the environment for the citizens to turn on their leader and force him out. When that happens Israel and the US can assist them in going in and assisting the Iranians in destroying it without the MOAB.
Obama was the King of Regime Change. Trump only wants peace and total surrender from the Ayotollah. We’ve been on the receiving end of deth and violence from Iran since 1979 and now with Israel, our ally, leading the charge, it’s time to banish the threat. We’re in this, and have been since 1979 but no one’s had the gonads to ever address it. Thank you Trump. Am with Trump ALL THE WAY
threat
PBS is a threat to democracy.
https://truthsocial.com/@KariLake/posts/114646433296119957
1979
Islamo-Marxists are a threat to democracy.
The media should leave these decisions on the Iran/Israel horror problems to our VSGDJT, and not speculate on what can, might or should happen.
Whatever they are doing now is not smart and certainly doesn’t solve anything. They make themselves the center of attention, to the detriment of peace!
This episode has led me to believe that Trump is just a pawn. This is about regime change, it was never about a nuke. This entire episode was outlined in an old Brookings paper on Iran regime change. The Brooking paper provides a script on changing the Iran regime.
Still support Trump overall, but if he attacks Iran, I think I am done.
US-Israeli War on Iran: The Numbers Game – Iranian Ballistic Missiles vs US-Israeli Air Defenses
The only Iranian I knew personally was a nurse. She had been married to country music star’s drummer. She got fired from her job as a nurse and became a stripper who tried to come on to me. So, that is the extent of my knowledge of Iran. Her family left Iran at the time of the fall of the Shah.
Russian Foreign Minister:
Erdogan:
Khameni had a televised speech and said:
More detail on Khamanei televised speech (other is currently in the bin).
lipstick
The truth, after the fact, won’t help you much.
It’s astonishing how limited the understanding of so many commenters. It’s like a plague where they begin to grow an informed opinion but are unable to maintain a contextual remembrance of facts. If someone references an adolescent and superficial movie from 55 years ago to conceptualize catastrophic geopolitics maybe they should go binge watch the devils handiwork in Canton MA there’s a chance they might learn about the world they live in.
There are wonderful people in Iran who struggle with circumstances beyond there control. Not unlike maga but without any hope from within, constant threats and tyranny. Zero chances of freedom.
The man/boy Macron is a degenerate, an elitist with no concept of human dignity he is by definition ungodly. No regime change anytime, anywhere, especially in Frog land.
Macron opposed forced regime change in Iran, and gives as a main reason that you never know what will follow.
And yet he obviously supports the attempt to cause regime change in Russia, using the Ukraine war as the device to forcs said regime change.
Macron supports keeping the status quo in Iran because….France was the refuge for the original Ayatollah Khomeini. The same Ayatollah who left France to overthrow the Shah in ~’78 and whose “protesters” seized our embassy and held the staff hostage for 440+ days.
Whether France likes it or not – they were the incubator for the Islamo-Nazi ayatollah regime, and here they are supporting keeping in place.
This is precisely why Trump has long been in favor of negotiating with existing leadership in all countries so as not to leave a dangerous and unpredictable power vacuum.
People are asking why the Houthis and other Iran allies/proxies aren’t helping Iran. Answer? Likely because they want to fill in that power vacuum themselves. And I have heard ZERO about a post battle plan following a total destruction of Iran’s government.
I assume Trump sees what we see and has something in mind or else he wouldn’t have allowed Israel to trap the US in this way.
“President Trump does not want a targeted problem to escalate into a regional geopolitical conflict. So, he takes proactive and ongoing steps to ensure containment. This is the part that French President Macron (doofus) cannot intellectually conceptualize; hence, President Trump’s curt remarks.”
This is where I am at as well. I feel like so many others that Israel and perhaps others have intentionally put the US into a very difficult trap. Trump is working his way out of that trap.
But to those blaming Netanyahu, I expect you to understand that MOST governments appear to be run by their deep states. From the outside, it rather looks like it’s harmonious but in the case of Trump, Trump expects to be in control as does the US Constitution. The constitution demands it actually. And it seems to me Netanyahu may have a similar problem. He may be aligned with some of his deep state but how much of that is the other way around?
The deep state behaves as they do BECAUSE they think all of the blame goes to the president or the prime minister.
Trump and other world leaders need to find ways to ensure the deep states players are held to account and we are seeing indications of exactly this with a lot of the firings as well as the investigations into the auto-pen.
What I feel is the signature of the deep state activity in Israel is this action taken without any obvious plan to protect their own people and without any plan for what happens AFTER Iran’s government is toppled. The deep state doesn’t seem to care. They just like to set fire to things to watch them burn.
The Deep State cares nothing for their own nations nor their own peoples.
They serve a master who is the temporary prince of this world.
He hates all of God’s creation, but most especially humans.
We fight not against flesh and blood…
Remember that.
Not a short summary but all to the point. I can’t make memes but it would be glorious to show this twit doing all of the things he has done to stay relevant. Flashback to the first G7 when PDJT was there and how this kid behaved. No different this time – and with his mouth as well.
“French twit – pompous. Meddlesome. Overstepping his bounds – ever the publicity-seeking wanker (sorry, effete French words don’t quite cut it) .. desperate to stay relevant? Whatever the event, whether paying homage to the deceased pope or a G7 meeting, he’s always trying to insert himself front and center. It’s unbecoming as he covers his mouth while whispering needlessly into someone’s ear while cameras roll, as if he’s sharing the secrets of the universe. While more important leaders were seating themselves around the table at the G7 summit in Canada, Macron stood impishly beside the host, smiling and chatting in an untoward attempt to make an impression.
What an a grandiose nincompoop -annoying to both friends (er, wife) and foes.
While unlikable Macron was trying to steal the limelight in unseemly fashion at the G7 meeting in Canada, U.K. Prime Minister Starmer and Trump were actually engaging in significant comity. There was even some humor, especially when Trump dropped a copy of the trade agreement, sending Starmer scrambling to retrieve it. Now there’s a metaphor representing their relative strength and positioning.
Obviously, they have major political differences, but Trump has capacious compassion. Moreover, he genuinely likes Starmer personally. That’s significant, as the UK will receive more favorable tariff treatment partly because, as Trump said, “I like them.”
Said that PDJT left early to work on an Israeli-Iran ceasefire proposal.
PDJT (metaphorically) just slapped him down while his wife literally slapped his slappable mouth.
Likability is an important intangible asset in life, but especially politics (it’s one reason why voters vote such). The personality of the leader (and business and trade negotiators) can be determinative in resolving disagreements. Starmer has, at least for now, won over Trump. Macron, by contrast, hasn’t even won over his wife. Perhaps if she sloshed him harder he would become slap-happy, which would be a personality improvement over his unbearable French pomposity.”
SOURCE : AmericanThinker
The Central Bank of Iran is not a BIS member. If you turn to your Glossary of the Debt-Besotted, you’ll find such bad actors listed under ‘Pariah State’.
These are bad states. But don’t worry. You live in a good state. No pariah state in the history of man has ever possessed the wherewithal to amass $37 trillion in debt. This is a problem. They just don’t pay their freight.
The South Pars oil field ownership is shared between the CIA (or for all you flag men out there, Qatar) and Iran.
In short, the largest NG field in the world lies outside the comprehensive aegis of the bankers. It doesn’t take a genius to see that this gargantuan endowment of nature is desperately in need of financial leverage. Otherwise it just staggers around out there unfettered.
So…Iran has nukes. There. That was easy.
I agree that Trump and Putin working together is very important. But one premise of the conflict is that Iran may not have a nuclear weapon. Suppose they had one, would they use it offensively? If they did, they would be incinerated. I believe that, as crazy as the mullahs are, they would keep them for deterence – just as Israel has hundreds of nuclear bombs, which I believe the crazies in Israel would use at Fordow(sp?), if the US doesn’t use the bunker buster.
Maybe the crazies wouldn’t be able to make it happen, but look what they’ve done to Gaza.
Now will Trump unleash the bunker busters? That is an offensive act in concert with Israel; we would be at war with Iran. Sen Kaine, and Rep Massey are demanding a debate in Congress before that happens – Congress may be crazy enough to give its stamp of approval. Then Trump would have the authority to do it.
I am against that war and believe that Trump and Putin could figure out a means to stop the insanity, but there is the element of might-makes-right that weighs heavily on the side of insanity.
The other premise is regime change which is simply “we don’t like your government, so we are going to eject it” – might-makes-right. It is also invalid in my view.
Anyone hear about the two high frequency coded 246 character announcements made across the world a couple days ago? Also Iran stated that tonight – aka – right now, they’re supposed to be showing the world a surprise that will be talked about for centuries.
This is just a regime change, not a war.
All the Nervous Nellies and Negative Nancys need to settle down.
Reza Shah’s son, the Crown Prince of Iran (also named Reza) is the legal heir to the throne and he will be assuming the throne forthwith.
The Ayatollah/Mullah regime, supported and initially financed by the intelligence/enforcement departments of the Marxist/Globalist Cabal, which has been illegitimately running things in Iran since 1978, is about fall.
Dang near the entirety of the world is more than ecstatic to see them finally get gone.
Most of the military targets have already been destroyed/disabled.
There have been about a dozen “earthquakes” in Iran during the past week.
Those were not regular earthquakes; they were direct strikes that registered seismically.
At least two were close enough to Fordo to collapse the adjoining tunnel systems.
Macron is insignificant and irrelevant; he’s probably in a panic over the number of militant muslims in France and the propensity for them to wreak havoc.
France never, ever should have gotten involved in supporting the Ayatollah/Mullah power structure against the Shah and Macron knows that.
Barring any unforeseen false flags, this should be over soon with limited US involvement.
0.o
France does not know a damned thing about ending wars.
I dunno…
They’re pretty good at waiving white flags.