Will U.S. taxpayers ever see a dime repaid? Probably not, because the proceeds will likely end up in the pockets of the professional political class; however, the concept is a good idea in principle. It is more than likely Zelenskyy has sold his “minerals” to several countries in his perpetual tin cup tour. The ‘investment fund’ aspect is just another way to transfer proceeds into the bank accounts of U.S. Senators.
The previously called “minerals deal” is now essentially a fund created between the USA and Ukraine where proceeds from exploiting Ukraine natural resources will be used to rebuild the country and repay the USA for prior financial support. According to ABC News, “Both sides were ready to sign the agreement on critical minerals and other resources earlier, but the U.S. said it wanted the main minerals resources agreement signed and the creation of an investment fund document signed at the same time, Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal and a source in the Ukrainian president’s office said.”
Thanks to @POTUS @realDonaldTrump’s tireless efforts to secure a lasting peace, I am glad to announce the signing of today’s historic economic partnership agreement between the United States and Ukraine establishing the United States-Ukraine Reconstruction Investment Fund to help… pic.twitter.com/N1jPa35DYh
— Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent (@SecScottBessent) April 30, 2025
WASHINGTON — On April 30, the United States and Ukraine signed an agreement to establish the United States-Ukraine Reconstruction Investment Fund. In recognition of the significant financial and material support that the people of the United States have provided to the defense of Ukraine since Russia’s full-scale invasion, this economic partnership positions our two countries to work collaboratively and invest together to ensure that our mutual assets, talents, and capabilities can accelerate Ukraine’s economic recovery.
Under the leadership of President Donald J. Trump, the Treasury Department and the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation (DFC) will work together with the Government of Ukraine to finalize program governance and advance this important partnership.
“Thanks to President Trump’s tireless efforts to secure a lasting peace, I am glad to announce the signing of today’s historic economic partnership agreement between the United States and Ukraine establishing the United States-Ukraine Reconstruction Investment Fund,” said U.S. Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessent. “As the President has said, the United States is committed to helping facilitate the end of this cruel and senseless war. This agreement signals clearly to Russia that the Trump Administration is committed to a peace process centered on a free, sovereign, and prosperous Ukraine over the long term. President Trump envisioned this partnership between the American people and the Ukrainian people to show both sides’ commitment to lasting peace and prosperity in Ukraine. And to be clear, no state or person who financed or supplied the Russian war machine will be allowed to benefit from the reconstruction of Ukraine.”
Both the United States and the Government of Ukraine look forward to quickly operationalizing this historic economic partnership for both the Ukrainian and American people. (LINK)
President Trump gets things done! Best man for the job — a 21st century Prez committed to American Greatness.
… and a guy who wrote the book on “[business …] negotiation.” And a damned good set of books they are, too. (I have them all in hardcover, well-thumbed.)
maybe not,deatils,
I’d rather we just let them be. Seems like a nice avenue to draw the US into some conflict.
China cut us off. We need the minerals and we would have financed the rebuilding anyway. At least this way we get something for it.
Yes. And it doesn’t look like Greenland wants to talk to us at all. Ukraine really has no choice.
Fwiw…..
Greenland, like Ukraine, will definitely come around when the time is right for them to be in the global spotlight again.
Oh, we could easily get those same minerals from other places – even ourselves. They’re actually not that rare. Nope, there’s got to be a lot more going on that has not been revealed to us yet. (And I won’t waste time speculating about it: “secrecy matters.”)
Very interestingly, a legitimate domestic source of “rare earths” is: tailings piles. Particularly from the 19th and early 20th century, when the minerals in question were either unknown, or not of any interest. These minerals don’t appear in veins of their own, hence “rare,” but they can actually be plentiful in connection with other deposits. In this case, somebody else has already dug them up, then discarded them.
True and the US has the domestic mining production to self supply – the issue at this point in time is the processing capacity is woefully low. Posted an article from Epoch Times the other day outlining both items in regards to our nation.
yes, they are not rare in the definition of scarce. but like oil and gas, which are also not rare, nor scarce, it really depends on the economics of extraction, purity, and an infrastructure and ready work force and transmodal system IN PLACE to take advantage and be competitive.
In this sense, a good analog is helpful: sa has one of the largest oil fields in the world. but even if it was not ginormous it would still be one of the least energy “expensive” to extract and to refine and to transport on a global scale. It’s geography, oil type, and ease of extraction AND that SA has been doing this for well over 100 years.
similarly, Ukraine has deposits of “rare” minerals that are relatively cheap to extract…at least two deep water sea ports, a well established refinery technology base and skilled labor and has also been doing this for quite a long time.
in that sense, Ukraine has some advantages to make it really difficult for other countries to compete against. And that’s what matters. not what you have, but your ability to deliver faster with a better product that anyone else.
that’s my take on it.
Russia is likewise situated but also with rich oil and gas as the other two legs of the chair. It simply needs a deep water port, and less geopolitical hostilities from oil rich countries who are opposed to a new competitor in the energy market making echelon…the only one that really matters….who has the energy has power…
Terrific commentary, regitiger, thank you!
Russia has them, too. Maybe work constructively with them for a change?
YES !!! And it is kind of inappropriate (tone deaf). In the middle of an existential war for both Ukraine and Russia we are inking business deals??? Kind of like signing a deal to explore for oil under Nagasaki and Hiroshima after the A-bombs are dropped. If it is this, I am kind of appalled / sick to my stomach.
The only way this makes sense is if the backstory developed by Tom Luongo and Alex Krainer is true:
Did Zelensky sign the Mineral Deal with the UK before meeting with Trump?
https://rumble.com/v6q1618-did-zelensky-sign-the-mineral-deal-with-the-uk-before-meeting-with-trump.html
UK and Ukraine sign landmark 100 Year Partnership
“It also cements the UK as a preferred partner for Ukraine’s energy sector, critical minerals strategy and green steel production.”
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-ukraine-sign-landmark-100-year-partnership-to-deepen-security-ties-and-strengthen-partnership-for-future-generations
SUMMARY: Before Trump took office allegedly the UK scooped up all of the minerals with its 100 year partnership and stands to benefit handsomely once the war is ended. When Trump discovered this he was pissed off as the UK had done virtually nothing for Ukraine (except BoJo starting the war) so he insisted on a minerals deal that would deprive the UK of the minerals and stick it to Keir Starmer.
I really hope the latter is the correct explanation …but, like you I am worried it could drag us further in.
It ends the war.
These minerals are now off the table and no incentive for Russia to snatch them.
Amazing master stroke by Trump.
Ending a war with a business deal!
Putin won’t dare to attack US assets, while instead of kickback dark money deals,for a few politicians, now real value is extracted out of Ukraine. Same time more acces to minerals meaning less dependent on China etc.
As long as the US enables Z-Man with money and arms … the Russians will take these assets if they can. It is pure arrogance by the US to think that a piece paper protects diddly if our weapons and money keep the war going.
It escalates the war. Russia is not afraid of the US, they have been at war with us since 2014.
Russia was never interested in those minerals, they are interested in Ukraine not becoming a US possession. And they will fight us and beat us to stop that from happening.
You said it!
Russia just wants to be left alone!
“It ends the war.
These minerals are now off the table and no incentive for Russia to snatch them.”
Yeah… that isn’t how it works unfortunately. If this war drags on, and Russia takes whatever area is included in this deal, it becomes Russian territory. And if the US Gov decides to keep sending armaments and providing mil support to Ukraine, it will simply force the Russians to double down.
If diplomacy doesn’t end this situation, then war will end it.
Russia has a lot of skin in the game, they aren’t going to walk away.
More sanctions, terrorist attacks and military threats against them, will have zero impact.
The greatest obstacle to any deal is Zelensky, and his circle of cronies. He has no appetite for peace with Russia, and no regard for the wellbeing of Ukrainians.
He is guaranteed to spike any peace treaty made with Russia.
He gambled, he lost, but refuses to accept it.
“Kind of like signing a deal to explore for oil under Nagasaki and Hiroshima after the A-bombs are dropped.“
That’s actually funny
It’s partially intended to supply a NON-military security guarantee to Ukraine to get them to sign a peace treaty and end the war…
Agreed!
Fortunately its the man who was recently re elected to be Americas President by winning Trumps by winning both the Electoral College AND Popular vote, PDJT, who’s “I’d rathers” trump the “I’d rathers” of unelected, online knee jerk complainers.
Unlike online opiners PDJT and his guy, Bessant, not only know all of the players personally but they’ve also cersonally crafted the deal AND have actually read, understood plus approved the final deal that was just signed.
Btw, this deal is NOT about “muh rare earth minerals”. That was distraction bait which a cross section of Eurozone and American naysayers quickly swallowed, ” hook, line and sinker”.
As intended by Art of War devotee, PDJT.
This deal is about control of EVERYTHING involved with mining, gas and oil plus all related infrastructures which ncludes pipelines, roads, railings AND ports.
The deal includes detailed transparency measures plus auditing requirements to btfo the usual corporate and political vultures who swoop in handle “reconstruction” in war ravaged countries after “peace” has been restored.
Team Trumps “Mineral Deal” which Ukraine officials with the legal authority to do so, just signed off on:
Btfo post war “Build. Back. Better” NWO schemes.
Legally blocks Ukraine from joining the NWOs EU slave system.
Gives DC Neocons the political cover they need to disengage from the Ukraine War without losing their tough guy bona fides or invites appear on FOX News. Fwiw these guys will be the ones who can and will sell President Trumps peace deals to normies who still believe what Conservative TV guys say.
Gives Putin the political ammo he needs to deal with Moscows “NeoCons” who’ve been demanding that he take ALL of Ukraine and hinting that he might be Trumps lap dog who’s selling out to The Collective West instead of being truly Russia First like they are.
Bottom line, THANK GOD for our Very Stable Genius POTUS, PDJT.
As long as we stick with Him AND him, as promised, “the Best truly is yet to come”.
the details explain this is NOTHING,
Then why are we doing the deal if money only goes to politicians. Why not just get out?
Eliminate opposition?
Make sure that others (uk, France) don’t enjoy the spoils when all they have were loans?
Optimal Solution?
If we have access to the rare earth minerals in Ukraine it takes away longterm leverage from China. In the short term we are still dependent China’s supply. I believe President Trump originally wanted this signed before he hit China with the tariffs but Zalensky backout of signing on his visit. My timeline might be off. It’s hard to keep track of announcements.
So after signing a deal with one of the most corrupt rulers/countries in the world, we might get some rare earth minerals? But since we can’t refine them, we then send them to China to be refined? Seems like we should have walked away long ago and spent the $350B on developing our own supply/refining capability … like a serious country would have done.
Seems like some onliners should actually read the final signed deal and listen to the excellent explanations for why this deal is so imortant, offered by its creator and chief negotiator on PDJT’s behalf, Scott Bessant, then ponder what they’ve read and heard so they actually know what they’re talking about BEFORE opining.
Did stupid lecture bot read the final signed deal?
No?
Oh you’re still just being stupid lecture bot then.
PDJT wasn’t President when the war escalated and most of the money was spent; plus, he was even impeached during his first term just for inquiring into what the Obama/Nuland skulduggery had been up to.
Obama and the Intelligence services launched the Arab Spring, remember, along with a “Maidan Spring” in 2014. They also kickstarted the Ferguson riots that led to BLM in the US at that time.
The US likely can’t just get out with the globalist influence of Blackrock etc holding cards in the end game
Agree, the global financial reset Trump is attempting has Larry Fink of Blackrock as one of its stakeholders, and that financial reset will reconnect fiat currency to commodities, that is, minerals and energy.
Then, why do this if it is just another way for the political elite to line their pockets? This gets so old.
Huh? It’s minerals for US companies instead of the usual USA if kickbacks for war machines..
Bingo.
US Company’s and investors plus those who aren’t part of The Collective West’s Cabal of Vampires and Vultures.
For instance $$ bros in the Middle East, especially those who are long time Trump and Friends allies; allies who might enjoy covertly effing with Erdogans schemes.
Let’s just see how it unfolds, it’s a supposition at this point, tho knowing the evil Senate it’s not unthinkable.
“the evil Senate”
Hopefully GREAT NEWS:
“The evil Senates” latest bipartisan scheme to eff with President Trump, lead by Rand Rand Paul and Wyden, just got btfo by PDJTs Senate guy, Thune.
Yes.
I don’t want anything from those thieving Nazi Child Molesters.
Except perp walks at the Tribunals.
Amen, Brother!
Fortunately, President Trumps Deal which Ukrainians with the legal authority to do so, just signed, was never intended to satisfy the self absorbed I-Wants of online veruka salts.
Instead its about ending the death and destruction in Ukraine as quickly as possible for as long as possible.
That’s why it’s called compromise; all life is a tradeoff, and we’ve hardly made a dent in the evil b*stards who are still very much in business.
Those who claim to only want peep walks at Tribunals
remind me of kids who demand dessert before dinner is served.
Just desserts, like all desserts are served at the END. Demanding a different order to the way things have happened since the dawn of human history, is tweenishly endearing yet ultimately futile posturing
tweenishly endearing yet ultimately futile posturing
I’m keeping that for my Jr. High Yearbook!
I love and trust President Trump. And I think this “partnership” with Ukraine is a HUGE mistake….
However, there is probably more to this than meets the eye..
Suspicious Cat is on alert.
Only works when the war is over
Exactly. Isn’t this putting the cart before the horse?
I think it’s actually a bit of incentive
“Isn’t this putting the cart before the horse?”
Nope. In fact, just the opposite.
However, some earnest online alt media opiners, especially eurocentric “intellectuals”, who still sincerely believe, despite 60 + YEARS of evidence to the contrary, that Orange Man is Super Duper Dumb even if he’s well meaning, will probably disagree
Hopefully GOID NEWS.
It “works” as it was meant to work RIGHT NOW by removing covert roadblocks to peace.
Their removal is accelerating, bigly, the speed with which that “when the war is over” time happens.
The naysayers and unsatisfied have a huge point, but yeah, I say we’re talking the art of the possible, not the satisfaction of the just.
Did you lose your English dictionary again, stupid lecture bot?
I’m with you, Lisa.
President Trump commented when Zelensky refused to sign the “deal” when he came to DC a while back that the minerals “deal” would act as an insurance policy of sorts. I don’t remember his exact words, but that it would give the US an “interest” in Ukraine.
Frankly, I don’t trust Ukraine or anyone in it. I remember when President Trump was impeached for talking to this twerp of an actor and asking him to investigate the dealings in his country for corruption and bribes concerning the Biden family.
And now we are “in business” with them? And now we are going to help them rebuild? When will Zelensky do the corruption investigation requested years ago?
I would swear I read maybe in January that the Z man had made a deal with the UK regarding the minerals. How many times is he going to use them as collateral?
It tracks positively on Fox, which is where the admin goes to advertise.
That’s f’d up!
Nazi’s get NOTHING in my book.
Either it’s for us or for the communists. We can’t take all without taking Ukraine over..
Which communists are you referring to?
China?
If there were sizable amounts of rare earths I am pretty sure the crony children of Congress and their Spook handler Joseph Cofer Black of Burisma fame would have leveraged them to the hilt and then some. This whole thing reeks of a scam.
There ain’t nothin there.
Wheatfield contaminated with gunpowder residue?
It’s literally one of the reasons for the war.. Joe Biden won’t send hunter into a war zone to get minerals. Trump got them for the USA on a business deal
Makes one wonder what was said in that meeting (in the picture) that got the ups driver to agree……..
“Extortion Fund” name was already trademarked?
By the way if Zelensky signed his autograph on it, it can easily be made null and void and mean nothing.
Just accuse Zelensky of being illegitimate (term expired May 2024) and state he holds no legitimate binding power when he takes his golden parachute to the West.
Signing under duress (martial law/war) also comes to mind.
Done.
Not the first time Ukraine has gone back on its signed agreements. Think Minsk 1 and 2, Istanbul agreement (this was signed by Ukraine negotiatiors, and then invalidated, as we now know!) Just to name a couple.
GOOD NEWS
Neither Zelenskys presence nor his signature was requested. Instead only Ukrainians with the legal authority to do so signed the final agreement.
So that’s signaling to both Russia and the MIC/CIA that we are no longer using the Burisma Ukronazis as intermediaries, but instead going over their heads.
It’s a signal that Zelensky’s Ukronazi government is no longer in charge…that there will not be a terrible civil war of retribution allowed.
Edit: of retribution by the CIA and Ukronazis; now, a retribution against the Ukronazis is certainly in the cards…which tells Starmer, Macron, and the US MIC to shut their big yaps and keep the he!! out.
If we shut down the Polish-based targeting centers, then we’ll know Trump means peace.
Two caveats:
Allegedly the minister of economy of Ukraine published that she signed it.
The problem there is she has not really been a player of any significance up until this point.
Also any minister would have the same problem as Zelensky: term expired.
The other interesting thing is the agreement needs to still make it to the Ukraine parliament (Rada) where according to [at least one interpretation of] the constitution the only legal power remains.
But there is no mention of timeframe.
Further in the info that this economy minister shared, there is a clause that states the first 10 years there woud not be any payments out of this fund to the US, and this term is To Be Discussed further later.
So it could be that no payments will ever be received in our lifetime, that is even if the agreement ever makes it past the Ukraine Rada, and has no legal challenges whatsoever about legitimacy of its drafting or signing..
A tall order.
No payments is the most morally acceptable in my book though [I admit fully that morals are up for interpretation] The way I see it any dollar that flows INTO the US from Ukraine from selling Ukraine resources is a dollar taken away from [hopefully by then honest and working for the] Ukrainian people. It could be seen as contaminated money or blood money.. money over 1 million Ukrainians died for. I think that money more belongs to stay in Ukraine to compensate Ukrainians for the harm inflicted on them by globalists. Ukraine is already sc*wed by losing a large chunk of its most vital generations of people. No need to further take their money into perpetuity as well. Insult to injury. But that is just my opinion.
Besides this, there is other ways for politicians to get that money without the fund TODAY. Special shout out to Mike Pompeo who recently landed a $600K a year board position with a Ukraine company. Congrats Mike!
The minerals are on territory under Russian control. So this deal requires the US to get even more deeply involved in this fiasco of a war. In other words, Ukraine gets what they want from this, but the US gets nothing.
The minerals are available right here in the US, we just have too many regulations obstructing our mining efforts.
I thought it was the refining of rare earths into a useable form that are toxic to groundwater and everything else that keep us from fooling with them..
“The minerals are on territory under Russian control.” Really? Please show us on a map.
I saw one map and have no idea how if it was accurate. It showed minerals in Ukraine and in the territory Russia has now taken.
Only maps provided by those who created the signed off on the finalized deal are germane.
Other mapd were props used by online guessers and gossips which are no longer relevant unless someone is now trying to gage the accuracy of these guesses.
That might be the same map given to Lindsey Graham to sell him on the idea, when he was flapping his noxious gob about “$Trillions at stake in Ukraine!” like a deranged pirate.
Excellent guess!
Lindsey never looks all that healthy and yet he goes on and on, like the Energizer bunny.
I have heard/read similar things before. Data is extremely limited, but does imply that the majority of resources are in the eastern part of the former Ukraine.
Where are geographic resource maps and data from explorations to be found?
We used to make maps of resources of states and countries in elementary achool social studies….Maybe Burisma (or that other Company based in the USj could provide some well substantiated data about the what and where these things are…
Old Bob Dylan song…
Well Mack the Finger said to Louie the King,
I got 40 red white and blue shoestrings and a thousand telephones that do not ring.
Do you know where I can get rid of these things?
And Louie the King said, ‘Let me think for a minute Son.’
And he said, ‘Yes, I think it can be easily done!
Just take everything down to Highway 61″
There also the last verse about the rovin’ gambler trying to create the next world war
Yup, growing up i the sixties had it’s advantages….Today is the anniversery of the end of Viet Nam war.
Just sayin’. Don’t forget that thing about war. No one who was in battle before wants to go back.
Ah shoot I forgot; that’s why most of Ukraine’s heavy industry was concentrated in the east, because of the access to minerals. Wheatfields to the center and west.
Google “map Ukraine mineral resources.” you can see for yourself.
Minerals are a teensy part of this deal; bait if you will.
Its been interesting to monitor:
who took the bait hook line and sinker
why they took the bait and
what they did after getting hooked
True for some but this is essentially an acquisition of their resources. Which can’t be gained until the war is pver
See the whole board.
There is no way Russia was going to accept a peace deal, that had Ukraine, EU and the U.S. cashing in the $5-600 Billion in frozen assets, ostensibly to pay for reconstruction in Ukraine, and be falsely labeled as the “unprovoked aggressor”.
And,, as they WERE provoked, they are entitled to have those assets returned to them, at the cessation of hostilites.
And President Trump and President Putin have been in agreement on this point, from early on.
Truth is, unfortunately as it was Victoria Nuland and the neocon wsrmongers in the U.S. Govt. that have been behind NATO expansion and the Euromaiden coup, its really the U.S. that should be obliged to pay reparations.
“WE” as in the U.S. Govt. were the aggressor, after all.
Sucks, but its where you are, if you really stop pretending.
Especially seeing as how “we” are still holding onto hundreds of billions of their frozen funds.
The same pipsqueaks squealing about the impact of tariffs said not a word about outright theft on a massive scale (nor the destruction of Nordstream, to boot.)
Proof? Doubt it!
Hopefully GREAT NEWS.
The minerals which are part of this deal actually are NOT part of any territory under Russia’s current control nor in territory that Russia claims but hasn’t taken yet.
Better stiil, this deal involves faaaar more than minerals which was just a term used to brand and market the deal in a way that acknowledged the original deal which had been proposed by Zelensky on behalf of Ukraines citizens.
I’d like to hear what Putin thinks about this.
The next large-scale missile strike will likely convey his views pretty nicely.
J
What does Putin think about this deal.
Since hes been communicating with PDJT for months without the presence og career diplomats, and based on official statements about each one,
I’d guess that he’s unsurprised but pleased to learn that PDJT finally got the deal signed
son he can use it to get his more blood thirsty, Russia First rabids to go along with P&T’s peace deal that does NOT involve conquering ALL of Ukraine.
So glad somebody is paying attention the the slavering Moscow neocons; Putin really is the moderate faction.
So, if the proceeds from the mineral sales will be used to compensate the U.S. and pay for reconstruction of Ukraine, then that means the $300 Billion in frozen Russia assets, held by the U.S. WON’T be used.
Which sets in cement that the U.S. position is that Russia was NOT the “unprovokef aggressor” because the only way the U.S. can “according to International law” seize those assets, is if the international concensus is that Russia was unprovoked aggressor.
Which means Ukraine, and the EU can not keep the $200+ Billion in frozen Russian assets they currently hold.
THATS what this dilly-dallying delay in striking a peace deal, has been all about, IMHO.
Zman wanted to funnel all that $500Billion thru Ukraine, ostensibly for rebuilding, actually syphoning it off and kicking back some to Congress, some to the eurowienies, which is what they wanted, as well.
It took time for PDJT to gradually destroy the “unprovoked aggressor” narrative, in order to bring enough of the World along with him, and into accepting the true history in the region, the actions of Nuland, etc.
Really interesting observation
Yes it is.
I haven’t read his book, but it seems President Trump works so that all parties get something from a deal. For example, it seems he would want the EU to get something. If the EU can’t get Russia’s money, what do you think President Trump will do for the E U? Or is this a case where they get nothing except some of the rebuilding contracts?
What does the EU get?
Enough mercy to avoid public humiliation and total destruction, perchance?
My current guesses about what their tests might be involve PDJT getting:
a Greenland Deal
and then a deal involving Canada’s unincorporated articles territories.
A debt-to-equities swap of some kind, then? Denmark already has a stake in Greenland and Britain/France in Canada, so maybe a secured collateral exchange for countries’ debts. Everybody’s in debt, and their debt is choking all of them with nothing to back it up.
I like your idea. I’ll bet it has something to do with the Trump/Lutnick financial Reset, which involves banking debt repricing in the Treasury bond and eurodollar markets, in regards to counterparty derivatives.
Maybe they get some Russian gas back and the bankster’s Climate Change Cult gets it azz kicked
(that is, no WEF “carbon credit market” revaluation in Trump’s up-and-coming financial Reset.)
BINGO.
PDJT can’t remove most of the sanctions on Russia nor can he release the Russian assets the euro’s seized and the interest they’ve been claiming to use to secure loans for their Project Ukraine contributions.
However, this summer the EU has to vote to renew this seizure or the assets will be returned to Russia which means the EUs interest grift will be gone too.
And the EU schemers have known since January that renewal attempts will be defeated now that PDJT is Americas President again.
Aha! There it is. This summer they have to give the money back.
Like Zelensky, I wonder how much they’ve already stolen.
Brilliant, simply brilliant. No wonder the Euroweenies are barking up a tree, they need both the stolen money and a promise of war loans to keep their dying economies from collapsing on their watch.
I’d prefer that we wash our hands of Ukraine, and just let Russia have the spoils; whatever that might be. If I never hear “Ukraine” spoken of again, I would be happy.
I am disgusted with the DC political class and fervently pray they will receive their just rewards. At this point, I don’t trust anyone in Congress, and I’m ot sure you can hate them enough. They have betrayed us and our country and continue profiting while telling despicable lies about people.
that should be “I’m not sure you can hate them enough”
“I’m not sure you can hate them enough”.
However demons will reportedly continue to encourage people to keep trying….
to hate people more than they already do. 😘
And stupid foreign lecture bots will spam up the whole place with their stupid lectures.
I love the world except for all the people.
We are where we are because of the inherent weakness of a democracy/republic. The concept is flawed and gives conspirators free rein to manipulate needy masses into voting for their selfish, evil proposals, paid for by those masses.
We will never rest as long as we’re trusting in secular leadership. We indulge this stop-gap system as we patiently await for the arrival of his Son. There is no substitute.
Personally “I’d prefer” that everyone who still doesn’t understand enough of what President Trumps been up to on the worlds game board for at least the past 8 +:YEARS will at least, based on what they DO understand about his accomplishments over the past 8+ YEARS will finally choose to embrace Corey Lewandowski’s famous mantra, to “Let Trump be Trump”.
We MUST just get out ! Stop with the deal making with evil doers.
STAY FROSTY EVERYONE !!!!
Also, can we get back to each and everyone reporting on the ground activities where ever you are !
We must get the MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS OUT NOW !
Co-workers where I work have now and for quite some time even been using EBT….. CRAZY as they earn a very good income.
Looking at different sources, there seems to be a difference of opinion on Ukraine’s rare earth minerals even being cost effective to mine.
If they were cost effective to mine, it would seem like it would have been done years ago.
Zelensky is illegitimate so the deal may mean nothing in the end but he caved.
He caved because President Trump likely told him at that meeting in the Vatican that unless he signed this deal and then a peace deal that will follow shortly the U.S. would pull all support and that by October he would probably be in a Russian prison.
💨
The richest soil of Ukraine was in the East. That has become now part of Russia. So Zelensky who is illegitimate is giving nothing to USA and Russia has more territory to acquire such as Odessa which was founded by Catherine the Great and governed for 200 years by Russia. So there will be even less to “give” to USA.
President Trump has unfortunately believed General Kellogg all through the negotiations. Kellogg is the source of Zelinsky’s stubborness.
A 21st century Marshall Plan? Time will tell.
I will be watching to see if any US tax dollars go to the newly minted United States-Ukraine Reconstruction Investment Fund.
I certainly won’t see any benefit from it, therefore I view spending my tax dollars on it as a continuation of theft by government.
Why all the pretending? Do any type of Google search, ask any way you like about what rare earths or minerals are just waiting to be scooped from the ground. There are no commercial mineral deposits to be had. Remember that trillion dollars of minerals to be had in Afghanistan? That idea was floated late in that war.The USA should carry on because the corner in the military campaign was turning in USA’s favor.USA taxpayers would recoup all that money sunk into the Afghan adventure.A Chinese company spent over 300 million to look into it and then abandoned it. Nothing there. This Ukraine minerals deal is a scam.It will put American contractors on the ground.USA also proposed taking over the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Station.If you are losing the military battle ,maybe try the commercial angle.BlackRock has the contract to rebuild Ukraine, but it will all be funded by USA taxpayers.I won’t bother attaching any links.This is just another version of Ukraine is de facto part of NATO/EU etc.The war started because NATO/USA were pushing NATO toward the Russian border.The USA is a partner in this war against Russia.To keep banging on about ”stop the killing”is ludicrous.The USA/NATO are providing everything except the bodies for this war. They cannot be an arbiter when they are a belligerent. The outcome will be decided on the ground. Ukraine and its allies will have to submit.
A very inconvenient question: When will the USA repay Ukraine for all the hundreds of thousands of Ukraine troops Ukraine lost being America’s proxy troops/cannon fodder used up to kill as many Russian troops, and destroy and use up as much Russian equipment, as they could ???
I guess it depends on how much is a human life is worth.
So what if the senators line their pockets, we can now move on. If they are to gain financially from the war ending, then it will end.
Moving on.
I was hoping this wouldn’t ever happen
So what this means we’re not ever gonna be rid of Ukraine.
Yes, Sundance the regular American will be the losers again in this deal.
Well I hope Trump is happy. I know all the elitist in Congress will be. Maybe we won’t have to hear about the minerals in Ukraine anymore.
“the proceeds will likely end up in the pockets of the professional political class;”
Can we put uranium in their pockets?
Asking for a friend……
Marie Curie would have had something to say about handling such things. But they wouldn’t hold onto it long enough for it to “work” that way anyways.
Multiple news outlets are reporting that PDJT dropped his demand for Ukraine to repay, via this agreement, the USA for prior war and fincial support.
Also, no specific mention of “rare earth minerals” is contained in the agreement.
If both the above assertions are true. The agreement is a political sham.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-ready-signtrumps-minerals-deal-within-hours-breakthrough-reached
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Thank you. It worked when I posted it, but not now. The article remains on the zerohedge.com site.
FTA:
Crucially, the agreement excludes any conditions which say it is related to Ukraine’s debt for prior US military or financial assistance. Kiev and many of its European allies had balked at that prior controversial proposal, which had centered on Trump’s insistence that Ukraine pay back the hundreds of billions provided by the American taxpayer after over three years of war.
Bloomberg details, “In another breakthrough, the US has agreed that only future military assistance it may provide to Ukraine following the signing of the deal would count toward its contribution to the fund, according to the document.”
Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal first unveiled Sunday that the Trump administration had dropped this requirement of paying back past debt.
The document “strengthens the strategic partnership between the Parties for the long-term reconstruction and modernization of Ukraine, in response to the large-scale destruction caused by Russia’s full-scale invasion” – but many specifics regarding rare earth mineral access remain unclear as of yet.
An initial version of the deal sought to grant the Untied States access to all existing and future mineral deposits across Ukraine, along with oil and gas throughout the country. It would still have to be ratified by Ukrainian parliament after it is signed, theoretically at least and according to Ukrainian law.
Reconstruction and modernization…Blackrock?
Defacto security with American businesses without being escalatory, neither side benefits until the war is over, extinguished the need or impulse for the frozen asset fund to rebuild.
The little green 🧌 is already saving democracy for me, why would I need more?!?!
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No fan of Ukraine at all. But at this point it’s both parties prolonging this. This seems like an escalatory neutral giving Ukraine some future economic viability and us presence without military involvement.
“Drumbeats pounding rhythm to my brain
La de da da de
La de da de da
The grift goes on
The grift goes on”
And men still keep on marching off to war….
So, how precisely will “the pockets of the professional political class” be sewn shut to prevent those pockets from being filled with Ukrainian graft?
Idly claiming that they will divert the money to themselves with -apparently – no problem means to me that the method is well-known and, therefore, should be easily exposed and blocked.
And why would President TRUMP’S administration be powerless to stop them? Ignorance of how the graft is funneled?
A further, deeper explanation would be nice!
Kind of smells like the game all along was either Russia’s minerals, or Ukraine’s. Total value of Ukraine’s minerals? Just as Lindsey Graham said “They’re sitting on trillion dollars worth of minerals that could be good to our economy so I want to keep helping our friends in Ukraine.”
Didnt the Ukrainian plane just turn around and go home?
per Zerohedge
Why would PT waste his time creating a mineral investment fund only to see the proceeds fall to DC politicians?
Surely he has another angle?
I just have to say that there must be more to this “minerals deal” talk than meets the eye. First of all, “rare earths” are actually not that rare: they simply occur in conjunction with other minerals (such as iron ore …) instead of distinct deposits by themselves. Second, the known reserves of Ukraine are, at best, “typical.” Third, no one’s very likely to be interested in taking on the risk of extracting them. (Wanna get shot at? Me neither.)
So – this “deal talk” is the prominent “bubbly,” but what’s actually going on underneath the surface?
Now – having just said that – I don’t expect to know the answer until the full “Deal” is finally negotiated and published, whatever that turns out to be. As Trump himself said in Art Of, negotiations are [“Top …”] Secret, and the negotiators must know that they will not be leaked or they will not negotiate. I’m merely observing that there must be more “depth” to it than just these bubbles . . .
Wait a sec.,,we are gonna join Ukraine now on “economic”issues??what happens to our illegal Bio labs over yonder?? So,, I suppose we just keep creeping closer,and closer to Russia’s front door,,,eh?? I don’t care,, I call a real big BS on this
(Fly over country translation)
From the fiat currency department in Washington DC:
In recognition of the evil Khazar actor forcing Christians to the front lines in the Ukraine to be openly slaughtered for the Khazar mafia and to demolish Christian heritage dating to the 9th Century.
Further, so the sphincter Europe can be rebuilt rebuilt yet again with the US tax dollar for the new corporate world order Paid for by any Christian not yet beheaded by the ironic Zionist genocide of Christians around the world. …
We who cannot be criticized, bring to the Christian slaves, a new turd polishing tax because 38 Trillion wasn’t enough. /s
Now that’s more like it. Rebuilding Ukraine too.
One step at a time, this one was a step forward.
Let’s see what these next 100 days can accomplish.
Renowned Critical Minerals Expert Jack Lifton Says There Are No Rare Earth deposits in Ukraine…
February 27, 2025 — In a recent interview with Investor.News, Jack Lifton, Co-Chair of the Critical Minerals Institute (CMI), discussed the improbability and inefficacy of developing rare earth resources in Ukraine, emphasizing the lack of viable rare earth deposits and the implausibility of making a profitable business case. Lifton stated, “Ukraine does not have any rare earth theme deposits that I’m aware of…It’s just a waste to do that,” highlighting the non-existence of economically recoverable rare earth elements within Ukrainian sovereign territory. He compared this to places like Inner Mongolia, where rare earths are a byproduct of substantial iron ore mining, contributing significantly to China’s status as a major producer of both steel and rare earth elements.
Stellar, what we really need to know about “rare earths” in just a few minutes.
“Resources” are a matter if getting stuff out of the ground, and making money on doing it (so you can keep doing it.)
Where are these “rare earths” found?
In mine tailings, the byproduct of regular mining. “Tailings” are waste piles dumped on the ground.
Why does China have the “rare earths”? Because of huge iron mine operations in Mongolia, thus, large piles of mine tailings, which they process.
Who else has a ton of well developed mining resources? Canada.
Who also has a ton of rare earth extraction facilities? Canada…and California!
No reason to do business in corrupt Ukraine or corrupt Russia. Lots of safer places exist.
This is a throw away deal to get out of the war. Any valuable resources are probably in the Donetsk. It’s majority Russian, and probably going to be Russian territory. The Germans went after Stalino (what Donetsk was called in WWII) for natural resources. Ukraine will be left with wheat and sunflower fields, and those have now been fertilized again with blood, bombs, and mines.
Waiting for Boesberg to order a TRO so that he can review/deny.
No.
Foreign entanglement.
Cut losses – it can only get worse.
Please.
Hop on a bus, Gus.
This investment fund sounds like a bunch of BS. Expect the USA to put up many billions to rebuild Ukraine at the end of this war — if Ukraine even exists as an independent country from Russia. What if any minerals the USA gets is undefined.
“Will U.S. taxpayers ever see a dime repaid? Probably not, because the proceeds will likely end up in the pockets of the professional political class; however, the concept is a good idea in principle. It is more than likely Zelenskyy has sold his “minerals” to several countries in his perpetual tin cup tour. The ‘investment fund’ aspect is just another way to transfer proceeds into the bank accounts of U.S. Senators.” — Sundance
Such a deal.
The cost of getting our corrupt Congress on board, to replace their MIC blood money profits.
Hey, I am an optimist. However, the Bank of International Settlements, created after War 1, is the king bank of them all according to Catherine Fitts… So allow me the freedom to be pessimistic when it comes to bureaucrats.
“The ‘investment fund’ aspect seems to be just another method of funneling proceeds into the bank accounts of U.S. Senators.”
Really, Sundance? Are you serious? You sound both skeptical and confident that this deal will be corrupt. What leads you to believe that?
Are you suggesting that Trump is pursuing the minerals deal to enrich the senators’ pockets?
I believe you might be misunderstanding both the deal and the situation.
“What leads you to believe that?”
The near impeccable record of Ukraine being one of the most corrupt places on planet earth?
No, he’s saying you’ve got to offer the politicians something to replace their MIC payola, or they won’t cooperate. We sure as shootin’ ain’t going to vote them out.
“Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.”
“And to be clear, no state or person who financed or supplied the Russian war machine will be allowed to benefit from the reconstruction of Ukraine”
this is going to be a non starter for Russia. Deals made in Ukraine that prohibit the gas and oil industry of Russia to “benefit” is what this might be interpreted as. It really depends on the legal and enforceable language of “the deal”.
secondly, just exactly what is composed of “minerals” wrt oil and gas sectors?
returning to the non pretending reality that this is in fact an energy war, what are the advantages of Russia signing off on such a deal or even acknowledging it, if the deal prevents oil and gas industries from expanding into Ukraine?
asking for a friend called reality check please.
noting: I remain supportive of ANY effort to deescalate and to end this insane war. There are simply too many human beings being slaughtered in this war that should have been negotiated decades ago so that both nation, and europe included could have security by means of sustainable highly available energy.
Russia is NOT THE BOGEYMAN…
also noting: in no small way did the Obama and the Joe malarkey charade intensify this war to a breath away from all out nuclear war. We must never forget just how galactically insane those two administration were..and continue to be. Russia Russia Russia. Imagine you are the typical Russian…Vlad himself. What kind of sentiment do you form against the United States. It’s not pleasant I will tell you that. All because the reprobates decided to throw good judgement to the wind and tempt fate.
we ARE LUCK TO BE ALIVE I TELL YOU.
after this entire sick timeline is done and peace is near, I will continue to remind that we never forget the horrors that was the weaponization of the United States Government, that was wicked in purpose and to simply enrich itself with power and money at the expense of the entire rest of the world. That’s a special kind of crime. A special penalty is required.
The very first 1 million dollars of this reconstruction will be a 100 foot tall granite statue of President Donald Trump erected in his honor for the peace he committed to realizing. AGAINST ALL ODDS AND ENEMIES.
that’s the least we can do to respect and honor this man’s legacy.
We must never forget these days.
God Bless America
My take – Russia’s issue is with foreign military members in Ukraine, not businesses.
I also think the press release was poorly worded in regards to the phrase you picked out – my impression is that the statement would be more accurate if it said that they wouldn’t be able to access the reconstruction fund.
That said, ultimately it’s the right of any country to determine what foreign businesses may or may not be involved in their nation. Don’t think on principle Putin has an issue with that – and they have more than enough for their companies to do in the areas they’ve taken control of during this.
Also don’t think that PDJT would put poison pills into the deal that would be deal breakers for Russia and discussions regarding it were likely discussed by his envoy with Putin.
He should get his own mountain next to Mount Rushmore.
Unknown woman signs Agreement in Principle, subject to ratification by Ukraine’s Parliament (Rada) and requiring the signature of a legitimate Ukrainian President.
The only Iron-Clad part of this deal is the metal screen on the sieve.
the woman who signed it is a Secretary of some sort appointed by Zellenskyy an illegal President making all of his appointments illegal. So the document is totally illegal.
Furthermore the US got played big time and lost big time on this deal. Only 1 of 3 documents were signed. Trump’s people said do not come unless going to sign all three documents.
Trump got impatient like usual and they came anyway and only signed the 1 document. Which is a big win for Ukraine.
1) the US cannot remove any money from the fund for the first 10 years. All the money has to stay in Ukraine the most corrupt country in the world.
2) the US can pay into the fund in military hardware.
3) this fund probably will only operate while Zelensky is in power. Anybody else coming in may consider it illegal and cancel it. So this fund serves to keep US involved in supplying military equipment and keeping Z in power.
4) they will not be able to due reconstruction and development until the war is over.
5) The fund says nothing about rare earth mining. Just development of natural resources.
6) 70% of rare earth minerals, iron ore, coal, oil and natural gas are in the 5 oblasts that are officially part of Russia.
7) By the time the war ends Russia will likely control 90% of the natural resources.
8) Russia offered the US a much better deal. Russia was willing to setup a mining partnership with the US for rare earths in Russian territory including territories that were Ukraine. This deal would have worked. The Oblasts in Ukraine area that are Russian have reliable electricity and transportation and housing now as Russia has been busy restoring things plus adding new train routes. Plus US could get their profits to take home right away. Trump turned this deal down.
9) it will be years before Ukraine is restored enough to provide the massive amount of electricity and transportation needed for mining and processing operations.
Bottom Line:
Trump got played so he could get to say some fake headlines. I do not think Trump even knows what was signed and the status of minerals in Ukraine. After all Trump is proving he is not a detail person. And he is very impatient so people can take advantage of him if he does not have wins coming out in his favor.
your entire message is right on point, except for the bit at the end about a 100 ft statue for Trump. That’s a bit extreme, don’t you think, or is this too sycophantic a message board / website to dare say this?
Russia is a failed imperial state whose nature is to attack, ravage, subjugate, undermine, threaten and manipulate its neighbors. The Kremlin narrative that Russia was provoked into war by the “cabal” at the State Department ignores the last 300+ years of Russian imperial tyranny. Putin blew up his own people during “Russia’s 9/11”, the apartment bombings of 1999 in Buynaksk, Moscow, and Volgodonsk, blaming it on Chechens, to pave his road to absolute power: “Finally We Know About the Moscow Bombings” https://archive.is/7UoCT
Could this be the way to stop the war. If USA citizens are working in Ukraine in a sizable number, then can Putin afford to continue to bomb Ukraine and possible killing US citizens working there?
It depends how stupid we are. Russia has generally been very measured, tit-for-tat. If the US can be attributed to an action that causes 100 civilian deaths, I would not want to be 1 of 100 US civilians working in a location in Ukraine
Ukrainian Nazis with a little help from their friends could set up situations where Americans get killed and the Russians get blamed.
Where are all the Ukrainian Nazis and those who have been enabling them wind up?
Gulf of Tonkin on land in Ukraine?
The MIC and CIA are perfectly capable of sinking an aircraft carrier in the Dnieper River.
So Russia gets to mine in Mexico with the backing of the Russian Army?
Any minerals and profits required for the USA can be had elsewhere in the world, without risking a Nuclear dust-up by encroaching on Russia’s border.
Absolute Madness.
Yes. Russia can if it sees its goals violated. US should not put US citizens into Ukraine unless it is to oversee their corrupt government and pull the reigns on any further militia groups forming and attacking the regions controlled by Russia. Russia’s objectives are still their objectives regardless of any US mineral deal with Ukraine. And Trump certainly doesn’t want to see any of our own people get killed. Trump is really not on the side that Zelensky and the EU are on. I hate the whole thing, personally. I think Trump should withdraw support and let Russia do what it needs to do. Too many cooks.