President Donald Trump and King Abdullah II of Jordan are having bilateral meetings today on the Israel v Hamas war and the subsequent issue with displaced Palestinians.
During the first press availability in the oval office, both President Trump and King Abdullah delivered remarks about the regional challenges, approaches and overall perspectives on the issues. As expected, both President Trump and King Abdullah noted they await the plan from Egyptian President Fattah al-Sisi who has been tasked with taking the lead on developing a peaceful solution and broader long-term plan for regional stability.
Jordan doesn’t want to take more Palestinian refugees, though King Abdullah did say he was going to take 2,000 sick children for care in the kingdom of Jordan.
President Trump has given Hamas a deadline of Saturday at noon to release all the remaining hostages or, “there will be hell to pay.” President Trump is willing to take part in rebuilding Gaza in the aftermath of the chaos and rubble as soon as Hamas is removed from the issue.

Sounds reasonable to me.
Please tell me how you reconcile “America First” with rebuilding Gaza or acting as Israel’s bodyguard?
I’ll tell you. Finally a BRILLIANT President with a real plan to quiet down the old made-up (by the KGB in the ’50s – 60s, read Pedo Arafat’s history) “palestinian” issue.
Once that’s off the table, a tentative harmony between the Arab world and Israel and the US can be imagined.
A rebuild Gaza should never be given back to the Hamasians, but also not given for full ownership to Israel.
It could become a Switzerland of the Middle East. Crazier things have happened.
Again, how is that America First? I specifically thought America First prohibited foreign adventurism, wars of imperialism, entanglements in ethnic conflicts around the globe, and a boat load of tax dollars to upgrade foreign countries for ill-defined American benefit.
Logically, if you are going to clean up Gaza and possess Gaza, you are going to have to secure Gaza. Creating another Imperial Outpost in disputed territory to build “the riviera in the middle east” seems at best a delusional vanity project and more likely a giant assist to the diabolical zionist agenda of “Greater Israel.”
“Diabolical zionist agenda” – nothing more to be said.
Take your pills, Goebby.
Ok boomer lol. George Bush called, he wants his “you’re with us, or you’re with the terrorists” talking points back.
Don’t go to war to benefit Israel President Trump. Stay out of the entire middle east. Christians should not die for Muslims or Jews.
Trump is NOT sending troops.
So who is going the clear Gaza?
We need to know who’s doing the ethnic cleansing.
I don’t know but Liz Cheney still wants to bomb the place.
Ethnic cleansing? Who’s doing it? well, ya got your durian! Ya got your Turks! Ya got your Palestinians!
Ethnic cleansing ?? Who let RAT-shida Tlaib into the Treehouse ??/s
Christians are Already Dying in Muslim countries.
Thank you.
because in the past we supported a Jihadists…….VSGPDJT….no boots on the ground and no $$$$$…filthy rich Arabs can rebuild a GAZA……
Actually, Christians are dying in their own countries by Muslims. So even if we stay home, we are not necessarily safe from them.
FYI Biblically your so far out in left field it’s ridiculous. Note we’re Christian because we’re grafted in.
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So if Jews are the problem would you advocate for their extermination?…asking for a friend.
“.. as animals to herd and slaughter as needed.”
What people actually think or talk like that about anyone …depraved hamas types and their ilk.
At first I thought you were mentally ill but after consideration I think you are deeply evil.
The only ones who don’t want peace SEEMS to be Israel.
Is that you AOC?
is it you miss Linda ????
No it’s the common sense test of the world tho
Are you joking? Nearly 2000 Jews were tortured and killed on Oct 7 2023. Good grief
False Flag…the deep state is in Israel also.
you mean Jews weren’t slaughtered on Oct 7?..more fake news?
Remember, Bibi went congress after 9/11 and told congress “We are 100% certain Sadam has WMD, and he will use them, or God forbid, give them to Al Queda.” 9/11, mind you, was either facilitated or allowed by CIA and Mossad to get both the Patriot Act and the Greater Israel project neither of which had popular support.
This bald faced lie gave the lunatic necon warmongerer dual citizens of the USA/Israel in the IC the pretext for forever war in the middle east while AIPAC bribed the requisite members of congress for authorizations in Iraq, Yemen, Libiya, Syria, et al.
Bibi’s lie killed and displaced millions of people and cost trillions of American tax payer dollars for the expansion of “Greater Israel” and the diabolical zionist project. Christianity in Iraq disappeared completely.
Knowing what we know now, it is likely the CIA and Mossad facilitated or allowed 1500 dead Israelis on 10/7 to further manufacture consent for the genocide of Palestinian women and children and Zionist enemies in Lebanon and Syria inconveniently living on land included in Israel’s territorial ambitions.
Trump is out of his mind if he aids Israel’s demonic agenda in any way.
Genocide? Israel is utterly incompetent. After 75 years of “genocide”, the “peaceful victims” are tenfold more numerous, not to mention suspiciously obese.
I dunno rsmith1776, I consider the wanton carpet bombing of women, children, and Christian churches to be indiscriminate destruction on par with ethnic cleansing. Zionist sympathizers routinely claim Israel is one of the most sophisticated militaries in the world yet was also unable to avoid dropping 2000 lb bombs on apartment complexes, schools, and churches. The goal was clearly to erase Gaza and kill everything that moved in it. Preventing food and water into the region confirmed the fact.
Personally, I have no dog in the fight. As an American, I tend to think we should refrain from involvement in foreign entanglements of dubious American interest. As a Catholic, I am both uneasy with indiscriminate slaughter and uninterested in the diabolically influenced insanities of peoples who reject the Truth of Jesus Christ.
Not our monkeys, not our circus.
Again, very incompetent “zionists”.
More palestinians die of high cholesterol, obesity, and diabetes than of famine.
Keep up the propaganda. Sock puppets will vote for you.
Christians don’t like to hear facts when it comes to Israel, it interferes with their religious teachings.
Jerusalem Ultra-Orthodox Demonstrators Block Christians from Attending Worship Event – YouTube 👆 👆 👆
CBN news
Occupied East Jerusalem: Outrage over ultra-Orthodox Jews spitting at Christians – YouTube
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Most of them were killed by the IDF implementing the Hannibal Directive as the defence minister recently acknowledged
Nobody wants to talk about that tho
certainly not ..Dee
Precisely. One would expect that to be common knowledge by now. Just as ‘Israel’ are also the side who have perpetually violated the ceasefire/hostage release conditions. Not Hamas. PDJT doesn’t appear to be apprised of this fact for some reason.
Exactly!!
PA says two women, one pregnant, killed by Israeli fire in West Bank; IDF probing | The Times of Israel
Both women and baby died. Yeah…some ceasefire.💔
Hamas threatens to postpone next hostage release, claiming Israel has broken terms of ceasefire deal | CNN
I lost my bet…I gave it until June.
BiBi government was peeved when the
ceasefire was done…one quit another threatened
to quit. Ceasefire was great start for President Trump
going into office…then the ceasefire would stop.
Predictable.💁♀️
The Arab Nations are scheduled to meet
later this month. I believe the 26th. They
will be discussing Palestine.
Bibi now has the new delivery of 2k bombs.
The new bets are how fast he will use them
before the meeting.
Again, predictable.💁♀️🤷♀️
The Arabs for Trump signs have already
been replaced. I saw article this morning.
The signs now say…Arabs for Peace.
I am wondering if the same people who
are giving him the Russian 1 million dead,
Russia economy on the rocks BS….are the
same ones giving him info on what is
happening in the ME.💁♀️🤷♀️
Thank you! 4gypsybreeze. 100000% correct as always.
And your closing paragraph and query is especially pertinent.
I too, have pondered the very same. And as I suspect, have many others.
As an aside – one could rightfully assume that PDJT’s relationship with his morally decent son-in-law aka Michael Boulos (and for that matter his father; who campaigned so tirelessly to secure the American/Muslim vote), is more than a little fractured right now.
That’s just ridiculous
No. What is “just ridiculous” are those unfortunate people who are seemingly incapable of conducting their own independent research to acquire Knowledge, Facts, and Truth. And who therefore can never proffer a cohesive counter argument – apart from a juvenile/trite insult.
Paid for by Obankster and USAID.
Did anyone read what I just read above ? Where did this gaggle of trolls come from ? AI maybe ?
I was wondering that myself.
What “unbiased research?” State it.
Entirely correct. And which has long been a well established fact – admitted to even by Israel. How some people are still unaware of this is incredulous.
Israel allowed that to happen. I do not forgive them for this betrayal.
“The only ones who don’t want peace SEEMS to be Israel.”
Israel is the one that wants peace the most. Thing is, and here’s the catch; they’re not willing to see Israel wiped off the map as a way to achieve that peace.
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Having worked there and made friends I was fortunate to get the insight from the common everyday people aka “we the people” of the region.
They are tired of the constant never ending wars, fear and daily take cover sirens.
They have similar issues as us they despise the leaders as we do.
They also point to the orthodox sect (they refer to as penguins) has the main stirrers of the trouble.
They spend their whole life in a state of fear as their parents did.
While we we workers were there it was a sort of relief to talk to us and laugh with us hooligans.
Most of the people that I met were good, some not so much, it is the leaders that seem to be an issue.
They have a deep state they despise, just as we do. It’s not the Jewish people and it’s not the American people, it’s our freaking Governments that are at faut.
What a load of 💩
First of all he’s talking about the Palestinian Authority. He says that in the first few seconds of the video. He’s not talking about genocide of the whole Palestinian population.
(Although personally, I think that’s not a bad idea)
Secondly, it’s from an Islam media outlet!
Are you a sucker, an idiot, or a Muslim murderer?
You’re ok with genocide? Wow. I didn’t think we had your ilk around here
Pot calling kettle black much? Good lord you’re an idiot
Why don’t you invite some to live in YOUR neighborhood and YOUR house if they’re such great people? Why do you think NONE of their Arab neighbors want them?
Those are evil people. Even the children.
They have been indoctrinated for decades, starting in preschool.
Wise up.
I was being sarcastic, but only by half. They worship a cult of death and send their own children as suicide bombers and killers. You think they love life???
I didn’t think we had your ilk here, but apparently we do.
So you repeat the fraudulent mantra. You think if you repeat the lie often enough folks will believe it.
Who are the folks who are repeatedly head chopping, honor killing, slaughtering infidels, raping, torturing, burning forests and people throughout the world in numerous countries in the name of their god? Everyone who is not pretending knows who.
Clearly he became lost on his way to the unabashedly Zionist propaganda site Gateway Pundit.
No they’re willing to wipe Gaza off the map.
But remember our greatest ally.
If the gazans did here what they did there I would be willing to wipe them off the map.
At the 0:21 mark: “a large scale attack on the Palestinian authority causing them to fear that everything is about to collapse”…..
So I guess you don’t remember that in 2005 Israel forced their own people to leave Gaza and they gave it to the Palestinians, including things like functioning greenhouses that the Palestinians could’ve made an income from, but those people destroyed them.
That’s just one obvious example. A unilateral action for peace.
Why would anyone want peace with the depraved folks who committed those Oct 7 atrocities. I know if they did that to my family I wouldn’t want peace and I certain would not give them any aid or empathy. I expect them to do the same here and I hope we don’t remain naïve.
Realistically you cannot have peace with those types of people ; they will not permit it . It is called a death wish .
Netanyahu went by the name of Ben Nitay when he lived in the US many years ago. Here is a video featuring his defense of his opinions in a 1978 discussion on a Boston TV show:
No they don’t. At all.
And PDJT discovered this way back in 2019, following his very productive talks with President Abbas- whereupon he said to Netanyahu ” You don’t actually want peace do you Bibi?” And to which Netanyahu could not even muster a reply – other than looking sheepish.
As PDJT also said at that time – he had obviously been “very wrong” in assuming that Palestine was “the problem”.
Israel was and still is “the problem”.
Victims of attacks are never the problem. The attackers who cannot stay within their own boundaries are the problem. They make it worse by pointing fingers at the attacked victims and accusing the victims of being the problem, making it psychological abuse on top of physical abuse and murder. Israel has a right to defend itself and it has a right to exist.
At the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, we will see who “the problem” is…
How many ceasefires have there been ? Who violated most if not all ?
YES! Israel has a right to exist.
Bets were already on the table on how fast
and how Israel was going to break the ceasefire.
It has already been reported that BiBi government
not happy with ceasefire and before 2nd phase
implemented it would be broken. That pacified
Smotrich and others who quit and others who
threatened to quit…because of ceasefire agreement.
Predictable……🤷♀️
PA says two women, one pregnant, killed by Israeli fire in West Bank; IDF probing | The Times of Israel 👆 👆 👆
Both women and unborn baby died-killed during ceasefire.
Hamas threatens to postpone next hostage release, claiming Israel has broken terms of ceasefire deal | CNN 👆 👆 👆
Israel has continued shelling, refused aid…and broke
ceasefire agreement. From reports I have read
105 people have been killed by IDF since the ceasefire.
Appears that our propaganda news not reporting stories
on all channels….especially Faux News.
Highlighted links….
. Hamas threatens to postpone next hostage release, claiming Israel has broken terms of ceasefire deal | CNN
PA says two women, one pregnant, killed by Israeli fire in West Bank; IDF probing | The Times of Israel
Again, excellently and accurately stated.
It has also been officially recorded, that Israel have now violated the stipulated terms and conditions of the ceasefire/hostage release over 1000 times!
Whilst Hamas have adhered faithfully to them every step of the way.
How some people remain oblivious to all of this is beyond incredulous.
I think Trump agrees.
Trump says the gazans should be relocated without a right of return. Trump does not pretend that he does not know who they are. Trump sees a Riviera for Gaza but he obviously sees that the gazan culture is incapable of sustaining why would be normal for most other folks.
You can read Trump’s mind, huh?
Israel cannot share a country with savages stuck in the 7th century. This will not stop until Israel wins. Let no stone resting upon another in Gaza. Extreme I know, but history has shown us how God has punished Israel for not defeating their enemies.
Ah….excuse me…..🙋♀️🙋♀️
How are those 5 red heifers doing
that Israel is preparing for some
Ancient ritual sacrifice they are going to do?
And you point fingers and talk
about people stuck in the 7th century??
Oh boy…oh boy..jeez..by golly🤣🤣🤣
🙃 🙃 Funniest comment today.🙃🙃
Yes! Thank you for reminding the perenially ignorant of the “5 red heifers”. Although sadly, of course they would possess zero knowledge of that either.
Who would want a fake, temporary peace? That’s not PEACE. That’s a lull in the killing. They want victory and a lasting solution. That ONLY happens if Hamas is eradicated. Have you not learned ANYTHING in the past 40+ years?
They’ve learned to hate the source of their frustration apparently.
“I was busy with my own stuff! Why couldn’t you just keep letting them kick you in the head? Why did you have to resist?”
People like to think that mentality is exclusive to the Left. Its not. Its human nature to hate disruptions to our routines and to often blame the person who forced them to have to pay attention to something other than their own wants.
That’s pretty ugly. But unfortunately, I think you’re right. Sometimes my fellow conservatives become deceived and thus embrace the wrong side of things. Seeking the truth and checking one’s homework is disruptive and takes time and some folks don’t like to be bothered with seeking the truth or being confronted with it. God will have His way regardless.
Evidently not, based on comments.
Ad Rem: please remove this crap. Posting video that is blatantly false.
I watched the video, it’s BiBi stating they need to cause much fear by grnocoding the Palestinians. It’s right out the horses mouth. Please give us your interpretation of why bibi is saying that in 2001
He’s clearly talking about the Palestinian Authority. The corrupt leaders. Clean your ears out.
Exactly. And as I have previously posted…PDJT discovered this once and for all back in 2019, following his very productive talks with President Abbas- whereupon he said to Netanyahu ” You don’t actually want peace do you Bibi?” And to which Netanyahu could not even muster a reply – other than looking sheepish.
As PDJT also said at that time – he had obviously been “very wrong” in assuming that Palestine was “the problem”.
Israel was, and still is “the problem”.
i Second that John,
This is the obviously a set of targeted attacks to make this website appear to be anti-sematic or to cultivate an unbalanced reaction.
We are sorry that our president has decided to talk to the adults in the area instead of the petulant children. Our deep state managed to fool many people that the middle east could not be at peace until the Palestinian issue was solved. millions of people in the region want to live in peace while the deep state enablers arm a relatively small group of activist to poison the well and stir the pot.
To my Palestinian friends I say, NO MORE overthrow your overloads reject violence as a non-solution and allow your children to live in peace. Stop being patsies for the war machine,
You’re not supposed to notice they’re a bunch of bloodthirsty bastards.
You mean Hamas, I’m just sure. Hamas and its friends who kill whole families, burn them alive, and teach their own babies violence and death from the start.
It won’t work. Why do you even waste the effort on this nonsense? It won’t have the effect you intend.
J
Precisely.
That’s just an insane comment, they are fighting for their very existence
And have been since its inception
That’s a strange gift to a president, isn’t it? Maybe Netanyahu was sending a message.
Sure, the “only ones”. Without Israel, the 20+ Arab countries, 50+Muslim countries are angels of peace, doves of bliss.
There’s only one derangement stronger than TDS – JDS.
We know what the problem is with Jew haters. It’s the “enemy”. “And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.” 2 Timothy 2:26
There seems to be a strong strain of Christian zionism on this thread. Interestingly enough, all neocons in America are either zionists or Christian zionists. Christian zionism is a condemned heresy recognized for all of Christian history but revived in the late 1890s when European zionists ensnared protestants in a scheme to return Jews to biblical lands. This scheme disregarded the fact that God’s old covenant with Israel was replaced by the new covenant in the Word made flesh, Jesus Christ. To be in covenant with God, one must accept the divinity and incarnation of Jesus Christ, and all the other declarations of faith in the Nicene Creed.
Christian zionists are an unwitting tool in a diabolical plot to gain Israel spoils from God for a covenant with Him they broke and reject. I would tread carefully lest I incur His wrath. Follow his commandments, and pray for the conversion of both Jew and Mohammedan.
Pseudoreligious BS to unsuccessfully hide Jew-hatred.
That’s all, Satanus Vult.
The propaganda and brainwashing has
been going on for decades.
I know those in the younger generations
who know more than 90% of the older
boomer generations.
One of my favorite sayings is….
Just because you are a boomer-
doesn’t mean you have to be a boomer!
I also have friends and family who are
boomers—thankfully they are not the
put their head in the sand types….
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I get that sentiment. I will also point out these savages hold American hostages. If the President has a strategy to maximize the pain for these terrorists, that will cause Hamas to lose individual fighters quickly, thus further destroying their leverage both short and long term, good.
Hamas has been starving and torturing the hostages. They are demonic, and permanently unrepentent. They need to be made into an example.
PDJT and Prime Minister Netanyahu hold the sword. If they accelerate their end, as with the Nazis and the allied forces, history will look favorably upon both of them.
Maybe they shouldn’t raise their children from inside the womb to hate people?
When parading the emaciated hostages, Hamas doesn’t look like they’ve skipped too many meals. The prisoners released by Israel haven’t been starved.
Maybe they shouldn’t have attached on October 7th. Maybe they shouldn’t have killed and raped innocent people. Maybe they shouldn’t have broken just about every piece agreement that Israel has ever conducted with them.
Go shed your tears on some liberal blog.
What utter rubbish
Hamas will not allow the masses access to the aid supplies , this is not new . Negotiating with those who do not value human life is an exercise in futility .
Yes. Israel has perpetually violated the ceasefire/hostage release conditions all the way along. Not Hamas – as some unknowledgably prefer to believe.
They are demonic, like their religion…
We’re not going to war period. Trump is a peacemaker. Now, if Israel wants to bomb the crap out of Gaza, maybe we will turn a blind eye.
What in the heck makes you think he would go to war? No precedent for that.
Now there is a precedent for dropping a MOAB.
That would be my idea of all hell breaking loose.
I think the MOAB’s are for Iran’s nuke sites? 🙂
Christ, a Jew, died for you.
A real jew.
Amen, He is our only hope. I remind Him of that daily.
Christians should not die for Muslims or Jews.
Why not? A Jew died for them.
You’re serious?
“After we finish off the Saturday people, we will finish you, the Sunday people.”
Hamas better release ALL hostages (or FAFO) this Saturday.
President Trump is not messing around.
We better pray they don’t execute them all and give Trump the middle finger.
Egypt would give up anything President Trump threatens to take to keep from taking in people of Gaza . Gazans are various Arabs ,there is no such people group. Palestine was a name given To Israel to insult them.
Most gazans are Egyptian descent whereas most PA Arabs were known as “southern Syrians. Neither of them have any racial or ethnic relation to the extinct ancient Phillistines whose “identity” they want to assume. Strangely, Arabs originated in Arabia.
is that an implied threat ,,, just checking because their appears to be a few deep state actors on this thread
I suspect they already killed them long ago.
Yeah just as they had “killed” those very fit and healthy Israeli hostages that they released last year – who were hugging and high fiving their Hamas ‘captors’?!! Wake the hell up!
Conducting one’s own independent research is imperative to acquiring Knowledge, Facts, and Truth.
It wouldn’t be the first time, nor will it be the last. It won’t be long, and they won’t have any fingers.
Well stop your “praying” (even God is becoming nauseated!) – because it will NEVER happen. Such a monstrously evil act would be the absolute antithesis of the Islamic faith. Of which you also clearly possess no knowledge.
How?? did you not witness the Hamas hostages release footage last year; of Israeli’s hugging and high fiving their ‘captors’??
Or were you (even back then), blindly adhering to fake news/Israeli propaganda?
Rhetorical questions.
The evil, sick behaviour which you are attempting to equivocate to Hamas, is ONLY wholly endemically entrenched in Israel and the Zionist ideology. End of story.
As has been consistently proven – particularly with their repeated useage (over decades!) of the Hannibal Directive.
God bless President Trump.
DO NOT BRING THEM HERE FOR ANY REASON !!!!!
What’s wrong with the King of Jordan’s eyes? His blinking gives the impression they are burning. The lights from the tv cameras?
Also – sounds like there is going to be a peaceful and creative process for the people living in the Gaza strip.
The smoke from the king’s Malibu property is bothering his eyes.
Caius, please stop. Thank you
There’s more to blinking than meets the eye and it is not only rude, but thoughtless of the other person; to even draw attention to it. Knowing what’s wrong will not change what the person cannot do anything about.
How did you ever become the most perfect human being to criticize others for being critical?
The perfect person apparently is the one who is criticising me for expressing my opinion that it is rude and thoughtless. Does that make me more perfect than anyone else? More than you? Read your own words, dude. How would you like to be at the end or inane ignorant remarks about your facial tic/twitch?
Blinking code so Jordanians don’t kill him when he gets home.
yep, spilled the coffee 🙂
No, he has that hard blinking condition – its something neurological. Every time I’ve seen him, he’s doing it.
Maybe every time you’ve seen him he has had bright TV Klieg lights pointing in to his eyes.
true
Thank you. There are more than a number of serious health conditions, or some neurological that people have no control over.
Might be caused by a medical condition. This commercial has been on TV for a while….
Or maybe he’s a distant relation to Antony…..BLINKIN’ ….
With all due respect, this is an idiotic and immoral plan, and worse, it endorses ethnic cleansing. The people will never leave their land. I also wish President Trump would be more careful with his words; simple words can start a major war. The Middle East is a very dangerous place.
Concern noted. .is it ethnic cleansing, if they WANT to go?
And frankly, for those who insist they don’t want to go,…they are Hamas, seperate out the palestinians that hamas has used as human shields, and then finish clearing the land, and all of the scum in it.
The so called “Palestinians” have been kicked out of Jordan, Egypt, and Lebanon before because they have been nothing but trouble. They got their State in Gaza and have used it to attack Israel ever since. They don’t want a two State solution. They want one State, and Israel isn’t it. They have reneged on every agreement. Enough is enough, turn Israel loose to do what must be done. No mercy, no more ceasefire, end it.
I completely agree. The idea of a ‘two state solution’ is a Western concept. 70% of Palestinians approved of the October 7 massacre.
They not only approved it, evidence was uncovered that some of them participated in the massacre (source is Amir Tsarfati). Two state so called solution won’t work because the Palestinians will never accept it, and they don’t respect Israeli boundaries.
I don’t think one can argue “ethnic cleansing” to a Jew. Good grief!
Which boundaries? Greater Israel, the boundaries of 1949??? Goal post always moving. Now they have Syria’s Golan Heights
75% of Gazans and 85% of Palestine Authority residents. It’s not just Gaza. They would like to do te same thing here.
I am against 2 state solution. 1 (ONE) state of Israel WITH Palestinian representation in the Knesset. Simply end the apartheid in Israel and there can be one state with different people living in it.
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Trump calls that commonsense…
One, they have no desire to go, and secondly, they will not go. What you just endorsed is quite simply genocide. I, as an American, will not be a part of that demonic brutality.
Nope not ethnic cleansing anyone having a choice of leaving and eating over staying and starving has access to weapons food and tunnels Sorry not Sorry.
Baloney, your assertions are false, most want to go but Hamas and the leaders of the border nations profit from maintaining the conflict, Trump knows this, USAID, UN, NGO’s, etc. it’s a pig trough network worth billions
The Soros foundation and network receives USAID funds – the never ending wars he champions under the guise of humanitarian causes
https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/it-was-shuttered-usaid-routed-funds-soros-causes-terrorists-and
I heard 3 Palestinians say today that they really wanted to leave Gaza behind. I heard 1 say he didn’t. I believe he was an idiot.
correct as usual Dutchman
You do know that the actual directive is to shoot any Hamas vehicle trying to escape with hostages right?
It’s not going around shooting their own people willy nilly. Its shooting at Hamas vehicles that may have hostages in them to disable the vehicles and prevent their getting away with hostages. This may kill some or all of the hostages in the attempt, but the primary aim is not to kill Israelis, its too keep Hamas from escaping with hostages.
Yes.
“Ethnic cleansing” was brought up by a couple of the “journalists” (or Hamas terrorists/propagandists) at the presser.
It’s a dishonest talking point because President Trump’s plan isn’t even remotely connected to ethnic cleansing.
and How long has Gaza Been Homeland??
Do you call it ethnic cleansing to remove a mentally ill person from a condemned building before you demo it, rebuild it, and let them come back?
BRAVO! Once again, excellently and entirely accurately stated.
The Gaza strip does not belong to any people but Israel. No such people as “Palestinians”
Its not ‘Ethnic cleansing’ when Gazans move to Egypt or Jordan. Maybe they shouldn’t have attacked Israel’s people including Americans.
Gazans should have chosen peace.
Peace is a concept which is totally foreign to the gazans…
“Ethnic cleansing” has been endorsed many times in the past, depending on the alliances of whoever is in power.
“Do they still speak German in Kaliningrad?” (Formerly Konigsberg, the home of philospher Kant)
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast
Not odd at all. In 1939, Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union carved up Poland. They were buddies, until they weren’t. Regardless, some 13 million people of German descent (including peaceful Mennonites) were uprooted and fled west at the end of WWII.
Up until around 1950 (around the same time as the founding of Israel) many captives died in Eastern communist prison camps and academics don’t blink an eye… let alone teach their naive students
https://gulag.online/articles/madari-a-gulag?locale=en
I thought Germany invaded Russia. Am I dreaming?
They were allies… until they weren’t. Germany invading Russia is the “until they weren’t” part.
How about Latin or German in the UK? Sometimes people have got to go!
I was ethnically cleansed from my hometown in California 25 years ago. Think I can get some of that USAID money?
It appears that you have to be an enemy of the USA to get any of their money 🙁
What’s really sad is that six people saw fit to upvote you…
How true. President Trump is doing a phenomenal job at bringing world peace, and quickly. NO ONE else could have brought these negotiations.
Furthermore, he is doing it in a magnanimous way which allows the other players to look good in the world’s eyes, and with their own nations while making sacrifices. Presidents Trump & Putin are clearly in sync. Brilliant.
Where is the “downvote” button? I wanted to hit it 12 times!
How is it ‘ethnic cleansing’ when, prior to 1967, Gaza was actually in Egypt and there was no talk of ‘Palestinians’ until Israel won that strip of land in war?
Israel needs to quit giving up the land they win. That way, someday they will have much more 🙂 Perhaps they are learning a painful lesson?
The Arab people of Gaza are not being lined up and shot. Surely you’ve seen the conditions on the ground??? The place is uninhabitable. They need to be moved out for the period of time it takes to rebuild and restore living conditions. Hamas, on the other hand, needs to be completely eradicated – they cannot live in civil society. They are demonic savages intent on subjugating and killing anyone who doesn’t share their death cult ideology. Burning babies in front of their parents??? Cutting off limbs??? Disemboweling people??? Frankly, the Administration should start showing some of those images to the public and stop hiding it.
Wouldn’t the Arabs in Gaza gladly embrace being freed from the ghouls who’ve taken over? They’ve been living in fear – now they live in rubble.
“Burning babies in front of their parents??? Cutting off limbs??? Disemboweling people???”
Those are lies, the only purpose of which is to rationalize atrocities by Israel.
Hamas did commit war crimes on October 7, but one must not confuse those with the atrocity hoaxes you allude to. If anything fits the label “demonic” it is the latter.
You, sir, are the liar. Stop listening to the father of lies…
Those are not lies. I’ve seen the documentation and the interviews. Families burned alive, yes limbs were chopped off. I know of one child who died from that; I watched the paramedic (who tried to save the little girl) tell the story. Accusing Israel of atrocities that Hamas has committed is a heinous lie. Hamas and its allies are con artists but you have the freedom to remain deceived if you wish.
Agree 100%
There is NO PLACE TO LIVE.
Only place to live is the supplied tunnels. The true will choose to die there and kill all they can on the way out. Hamas is a death cult.
No, you are incorrect, Trump has in a non pretending way shined a spotlight on the elephant in the room exposing reality for all to see clearly. PDJT envisions a beautiful location developed into something that all normal people can also envision. However, he knows, as everyone else can see, that the culture of the current occupants are the only element which renders the beautiful vision impossible. Therefore, he proposes what is logical for all non pretenders. Remove the dissonant element.
A couple of decades ago gazans were polled at 50% wanting to leave and now it’s worse. Did you notice the millions of Mid East and North African migrants who “left their land” the last decade? PDJT knows more than you about the realities of the Mid East.
A strong man, with strong words, better not be trifled with…
The key to any success with this intractable problem will be the personal relationships which President Trump always develops with those he interacts with.
When he says of various leaders that they are “friends of mine”, he is not lying or exaggerating. It is his strength, just as is the verifiable truth that his word and handshake are his bond. And those he deals with know it.
An honest broker.
I think Trump’s a genius. Among his greatest strengths is he’s a terrific salesman!
Agree…I should have added that he loves people, Allam. He is at home with any and all. Add that in as well. I believe one can’t be a truly great salesman unless one is.
Genius?
Absolutely.
True that. I am not a great salesman, merely a decent one, but I love my customers, and I want the best outcome for them even if it does not turn out to be with me. Your customers know when you wish them well. Trump has that quality as well.
He is doing the next indicated thing. And with his opportunities and capabilities, that means making America great again and maybe defusing World War III.
Trump breaking all records for transparency. Media heads are exploding.
Only the dishonest left wing crazy media heads.
Palestinians will never leave Gaza or the West Bank because the blood and bones of their ancestors are buried there and leaving would be an insult to their past sacrifice.
If you don’t understand that and can’t/don’t want to process what it means, you will never understand ME politics re: Israel.
They should of thought about that before Hamas and Gazans slaughtered
and kidnapped Israelis and Americans.
The “Palestinians have only ever meant ANYTHING at all, because they had the support of the other arabs; if indeed the Jordanians, Suadis, Exyptians etc. have finally decided to move on, and not support the Palestinians, the issue can be resolved.
Take away the RINOS, and the Dems are lost, leadersless and rudderless, adrift..
Same thing
If you want to understand the ME Alistair Crooke a retired British diplomat is one of the best sources. He has a lot of contacts. He was the British lead on Oslo, for example. He has a weekly Monday AM interview on Judge Nap’s YT channel, start listening to that and you’ll learn a lot. He publishes on substack too…
Since when did we listen to British Diplomats for advice. Hilarious….
He happens to be British, but it’s not because he’s British that I recommended him. If you want an American who understands the ME, go to Chas Freeman, and listen to him. His specialty is China – he was Nixon’s translator when Nixon visited China in the 70’s, but he is a professional diplomat so he gets most theatres including the ME. He’s frequently on both Judge Nap and a YT channel called Dialogue Works. Listen to him for awhile and you’ll learn things you didn’t know.
I repeat, since when did we listen to British Diplomats for advice. Apparently, you didn’t understand my English.
British “diplomats” gave away Hong Kong to the Chinese…reneged on their promise to give those in Hong Kong British passports.
British “diplomats” ignored the desperate pleas from white farmers in Rhodesia turned Zimbabwe when they were being murdered in the most horrific way and their farms expropriated without compensation (as in South Africa today). Refused to give them visas and left them to their horrible fate at the hands of Robert Mugabe, whom they honoured with a knighthood.
British “diplomats” ( and the government and King Charles) last year honoured the murderous SA president from SA with a magnificent State Visit with all that entails.
Just three historically recent examples…I could go on…
British “diplomats” speak the King’s English, are educated at all the “right” schools, dress well, have impeccable manners, and call everyone “Old boy”.
Wouldn’t trust a single one.
Betsey’s right . The “old boys ” have been screwing up by the numbers since WWII . Their only bragging point since is their spanking of Argentina in the Falklands skirmish.
Boston Tea Party by the Sons of Liberty also comes to mind.
Edited : Boston Tea Party by the Sons of Liberty also comes to mind. As one more example of the British rulers abuse wherever they set foot.
seen to me rather hear …Bliken/sullivan/nuland/kegan/brandon……
What about the Palestinian’s the IDF has slaughtered using US weapons. Aren’t they human, as well? They’re not all Hamas, FFS. Children sniped and shot? That’s been documented by AMERICAN doctors. Educate yourself.
Palestinian’s and Gazan’s agree with Hamas Terrorists. They teach their children to destroy Jewish and Christians.
Question. How many Jewish and Christians live in Gaza? Zero
Israel has Jewish, muslims and Atheists in their country. Hmmm
dee… christians are in the Gaza..
Thank you. My research tells me you’re correct. They teach violence to their children and teach them to hate Jews from babyhood. They pose pictures of their babies with assault rifles in the cradle. I’ve seen it.
Guess you never saw the children choir
in Israel singing the ….Friendship song?
Ghastly. Singing about annihilation.
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Fact-check: Did Israeli children really sing about ‘annihilating everyone in Gaza‘? – YouTube
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People also seem to have forgotten these
incidents. 🤷♀️ 💁♀️
Yeah…it is just the young Jewish kids
spitting on Christians and in front
of Christian Church.
Many videos out there showing the
same.
The individual videos went viral quite awhile
ago.
Occupied East Jerusalem: Outrage over ultra-Orthodox Jews spitting at Christians – YouTube 👆👆
Living in Bethlehem as a Catholic Christian is a questionable choice when it comes to self preservation .
I suggest that perhaps you stop listening to western mainstream media with regard to the Israeli situation. The Hamas Charter called for the extermination of all Jews worldwide. 70% of ‘Palestinians’ approved of October 7.
War is hell.
It’s not war, it’s genocide, aka “ethnic cleansing” in the modern vernacular.
Of children, of women, of boys, of girls. Whole occupied apartment buildings having multiple US-supplied 2,000 pound bombs dropped on them. It’s been happening for over a year now. Millions of hours of documented evidence, up on the web, for all to see.
Million or more casualties. Have to be at least that, but of course, we always need to bear in mind they’re only ragheads, so they’re not real people, at least, this is according to the Western press.
If I was an American, I’d be madder than hell at my country’s proud name being dragged through the blood of those innocent civilians because it’s totally trashed America’s international reputation amongst all right thinking people right throughout the entire world, and makes your job of being a responsible international citizen a hell of a lot harder than it ever needed to be, when all you ever needed to do was for your POTUS to pick up the phone and tell Bibi that no more weapons would be forthcoming until he stopped slaughtering the innocents. That’s all either 46 or 47 has ever needed to do. One phone call.
Instead, the genocide continues, and America’s international reputation continues to be destroyed.
Sorry, but that’s precisely what is happening, in every single non-Western country, and that’s most of them. You don’t see it yourselves, because America is its own planet, it’s not a country, America is a planet. But it’s happening. For real. Right now. And its a tragedy, for you, and for Israel. And hardly any of you, it would seem, are seeing it.
If you are not American, I personally don’t want to read your opinions. You know your USAID check will bounce this month.
No, I’m a Kiwi, from New Zealand. That doesn’t mean I can’t think. That’s what you need on a discussion site like this. You want interesting perspectives from different thinkers. You don’t have to read me, if you don’t want to.
Well, interesting, yes.
Repeating BS you read somewhere ain’t it.
One thing which all JDS have in common is not that they love “palestinian” children. They hate the Jewish ones.
KFIR BIBAS ALONE would have been enough to justify sending the herds of savage, merciless semi-humans away, as far away as possible.
Occupied East Jerusalem: Outrage over ultra-Orthodox Jews spitting at Christians – YouTube
Look at these nice young men🤣🤣🤣🤣😬
Collective judgement is never acceptable.
Collective punishment is never acceptable.
I am an American Christian that can trace
my roots back to 1642. ✝️✝️
Well, you talk like you think you know all about America, and yet you are not American. Go figure. I do agree that a lot of perspectives add to discussion. My perspective is this; your opinions are just that. Your opinions. Not facts.
Using idiotic slogans like “genocide” or “ethnic cleansing” is just parroting the most idiotic mainstream/lying sources, be them academic, media, or ethe “professional diplomats” who got fattened up by tragedy.
NO two state solution. NO Jews and “palestinians” side by side. This was obviously nonsense since the 1990s.
Emotional appeals to “but but but the children”? Address them to their own parents who kill them with glee, for the sake of an illusory retribution which never works in their favor. THEY are the mass-murderers and the criminals.
Question: If Hamas/the Muslim world announced today that they were ceasing all warfare against Israel forever, what would be the result?
Answer: Peace in the Middle East.
Question 2: if Israel announced today that they laying down their weapons and ceasing all warfare against Hamas, what would be the result?
Answer: Total annihilation of Israel.
Here endeth the lesson.
Some of the Palestinian citizens participated in the massacre. It’s documented. Some of them also held hostages in their apartments (also documented). Yet your sympathy goes to the killers. BTW – it’s also documented that HAMAS has used fake dolls that look like children and posed them getting shot and blamed the Israelis. They are con artists. I’ve shared my source in other comments. I’m starting to wonder if you are a Palestinian troll.
Doctors without boarders is a deep state front that uses unsuspecting doctors as human shields and propaganda. Big supporters of Covid lockdowns and shots. Lots of Pfizer money
ALL murdered by their leaders, their father, their mothers, their mullahs, their ayatollahs or however they call them.
Israel has done NOTHING more than the minimum which actions of these savages warranted. If anything, they did way too little.
It is this restraint, these hesitations of decades, that created the present continuing tragedy.
Meir Kahane was ALWAYS right, like Enoch Powell was ALWAYS right.
We’re just catching up. Better later than never.
Somebody please give this troll the boot ! This last statement is absolute fiction .
Ever ask……why?
Nakba – Wikipedia
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Netanyahu enjoys boost in poll after deadly ‘mowing the lawn’ in Gaza – Middle East Monitor
I actually know quite a few 12-15 year old children
who know more about the history and events going
on in Palestine and ME now, than the majority of adults
I talk to.
The adults have been programmed and propagandized
for decades.
If that is true they will leave a lot more blood and bones there.
Those older and even their counterparts in Syria will not do so. The young ones have no direct relations other than if they have older relatives still living who will not leave. The new US owned Gaza slated to be rebuilt to accommodate their existence may find the younger folks staying on.
They go to Detroit.
The Palestinians will have to choose then Lightbringerer.
Excise Hamas and live in peace is one choice.
We know what the other is.
Perhaps Abdullah’s wife, Queen Rania (a Palestinian herself), can bring her influence in this regard to bear.
So you probably think the Maquis in France during WWII shouldn’t have taken on the Germans, because they would have been acting like terrorists, if they did?
Is that what you think?
Actually…. Until Nazi Germany attacked their former ally the Soviet Union, there was very little resistance in France. Educational article:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-10-25-mn-14198-story.html
Don’t compare the French, unsavory as they may be sometimes, with a KGB made-up group of savage murderers who have absolutely no rights to the place they are in.
They tried to assert that nonexistent right, they lost, over and over, now time to go away.
I wish the Democrats would do the same. (-;
Speculating on what someone else thinks and jumping to conclusions is not helpful in a discussion.
Palestinians are not allowed to leave. Most would choose to leave if they could.
Mr. or Ms. Lightbringerer, consider giving President Trump and the process that he is in a chance.
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Perhaps you could consider relaxing and hanging out a bit to see how things work out over the next few weeks and months.
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I have personally known and met many people from Gaza that willingly moved away.
It’s Mr…
Look nothing against it. Just that so far, Trump has shown understanding of only one side of the transaction, and that’s Israel’s, and that will not work. It just won’t. Nor should it, to be frank. You HAVE to, when making a “deal,” understand where BOTH sides are coming from, and why they take the perspective they do on it. So far, in both his first and to date, this second term, Trump has given no indication he appreciates anything of the sort.
The ‘other side’ is the extermination of Israel. What’s to understand??
When you can explain why Israel doesn’t appear on any map in a Palestinian school book, we’ll talk.
Excellent response IMO. Exactly right.
^^ This person is a plant.
Obviously. He chose one of Satan’s Biblical names to go by…
You obviously don’t have a grasp of the Muslim faith . Palestinians ( for want of a better term ) are avoided by all people. The ” leaders ” of Hamas won’t even live there .
If you think Trump understands only one side, you don’t know him at all. In fact, I am sure you don’t know Trump at all. I think you need to clean your binoculars.
Palestinians were either Egyptians or Jordanians prior to 1967. So, no bones of ancestors in Gaza or the West Bank other than those.
There was Goliath and his brothers.
The Palestinians attacked, killed, and maimed Israelis, crossing the boundary and sneaking in to do violence and kill. Some of the regular Palestinian citizens participated (yes, it’s documented). So it’s okay for them to make blood and bones of Israelis because of their ancestry? The attackers burned whole families alive. If they don’t want to leave Gaza, they should have respected the other side of the fence and stayed on their own side, instead of sneaking through the boundary to commit heinous acts on families. They have more than earned some harsh consequences.
So many of these supposed Pro-Palestinian types display utter racism against Palestinians.
“Those poor Palestinians can’t help being raping, murderous thugs. Don’t you understand? They don’t have any moral agency at all! They’re just animals reacting to stimuli and incapable of rational thought.”
I treat the Palestinians as human beings. Human beings who have made the moral choice to inflict pain, suffering and death on those around them who did nothing personally to harm them.
They chose evil and deserve the consequences of choosing evil.
Well said. Yes, I agree. Thank you.
Hamas, the creation of Israel, was allowed to attack and kill about 10 -15 percent of the victims.
Twelve hours later, the IDF swooped in and slaughtered a thousand more under the guise of
official government policy.
Having whipped their population into a blood lust frenzy, Israel continued their reign of terrorism and death to the ‘ other ‘.
Bombing Lebanese apartment buildings, blowing up pagers in open markets and the Israeli
atrocities go on.
Don’t forget that the poor, put upon, just wanting to live in peace Israelis also attacked the
syrian military, rather than the horrible terrorists, ( that they created).
Some of you tools really should do a touch of research.
Start with Syria’s Assad. A well loved leader by his CHRISTIAN, Muslim and Jewish citizens.
Who do you think is buried on the eastern side?
Oh please, blood and bones, what, are you reciting from the damn Quran? Did the pedo Muhammad fly on a white worse to Jerusalem? Did Allah ask him to penetrate toddler Aisha? Please enlighten us.
On the entire Earth there is no group – not nation, group – more barbarian, ungrateful, parasitic, and completely useless than the Arafatians.
VSGPOTUS Trump decided to cut the knot which pretenders pretended not to see for many decades. It was time.
The last thing the U.S. needs is to put itself at the forefront of Israeli human rights offenses in that region and the potential for terrorist reprisals as a result. We didn’t vote for ethnic cleansing in a foreign country. Stick to America First.
Hmmm “if not for Oct 7, as horrible as it was, our current endeavor would not be possible.”
Jordan won’t be taking in people from Gaza because they’ll be soon taking people from West Bank.
That would be interesting. I thought the moment previous Palis went to the west bank Jordan revoked their citizenship.
The West Bank was part of Jordan until 1967. By the way, take an interesting trip to the West Bank via Google Earth. There are 5 star hotels there.
No..Not google earth . Please just go there , you might actually learn the reality . I’ve been to Jordan . It was built by the displaced Palestinians of 1948 . The West Bank did not “ belong” to Jordan . Jordan was created by the British , the territory of the “ West Bank” and Israel itself was always considered Palestinian from Roman times .,There were no Arab states until early 1900’s , when the map was drawn by the British . Palestine as a region , culture and ethnic group existed since the time of Jesus . Jesus was a Palestinian Jew . Yes . Believe it or not . Israel was the name of a people not a land with borders at the time of Romans .
There are numerous maps that have been printed in many books over the recent centuries that show Palestine as a place.
It’s a bit early to criticize President Trump’s plan. We have had decades of failure trying to bring peace to the Middle East because nobody was bold enough or clever enough to think outside the box and try a different approach.
Let’s see how our President fares with this plan. I don’t recommend betting against him.
Why should Palestinians be forced to leave?
According to Eran Elhaik. an Israeli-American geneticist who is an Associate Professor of bioinformatics at Lund University in Sweden and Chief of Science Officer at Ancient DNA Origins Enkigen Genetics Limited, the Ashkenazim who founded Israel and who still control its government did not originate in the Levant.
The Palestinians, on the other hand, may be the closest living relatives of the ancient Hebrews.
Then again, I suppose that might still makes right, especially when it’s backed up by the wealth that controls the media, the financial sector and politicans.
Genetics of the Jewish People
https://www.thepostil.com/genetics-of-the-jewish-people/
Ashkenazi’s originate in Khazaria, which is where Ukraine is today. They have no relationship with the ancient Hebrews from Judea. They are in fact descended from a Turk-Mongol genome and my theory is they were probably the remnants of Genghis Khan’s army who settled there after he died. They were called “the name stealers” because back in the Silk Road days all the travellers had to pass through Ukraine to get to either Asia or Europe. So they used to lure travellers and their families into their inns, get them drunk, find out the nature of their business, kill them, go and do the business, impersonating the traveller, and stiff the other side. That’s from ancient documents.
If you subscribe to ethnic cleansing according to somebody’s genetic theories, there are further massive wars and migrations in the works.
However, most of the people in India who endured forced migration out of what is now Pakistan, are unlikely to return regardless of their “genome”.
Successful Governments require agreements about what constitutes law and civility. The honor of suicide bombers exploding in pizzerias, cafes and dance halls is not recognized under the Israeli government.
It is furthermore monstrous if USAID has backed these behaviors on behalf of “our democracy”. All this suicidal idiocy needs to end, and the people of Gaza, like the people of Israel and ourselves in the United States, deserve a chance to prosper and live like human beings
Agree 100%
I like the sentiment, but don’t see it put into practice, given Israel’s treatment of the residents in “the occupied territories.”
This has been inhumane for many decades. Same as South Africa has been, for many decades, not just since Trump decided to make it a point of division so he could drive a wedge into BRICS.
Such practices need to be officially acknowledged, officially declared, in official fora, like the UN General Assembly.
Unless and until the West lets this type of action proceed on its own accord, which it currently gives no sign of doing, using its veto over countless UNSC resolutions condemning Israel over this, nothing will change.
This human situation needs to be publicly acknowledged as a public fact. Unless and until this happens, it will fester in the human conscience as a point of infection that won’t go away until surgery is applied.
A theory continued on the internet, with absolutely no scientific information to support it, as the ‘Khazarians’ disappeared in 1079 and left no DNA evidence.
Hmm . So convenient .
Exactly. Just… poof. Vanished. Here one day, not there the next. Well, I never…
But remember, trust the science. That helped all of us through that nasty covid thingy, didn’t it. Can’t even remember it now, it was so long ago.
yes
also the arch of titus was built in 1964 by Marcello Mastroianni
There are no homes to live in.
Bingo .
Not much on who lives where and such but America does not take other people’s land. My thoughts are that President Trump will clean up the land and allow the Palestinians to return if they agree to stop hiding and abiding terrorist groups.
No, they won’t be going “home.”
Some call it…Ethnic Cleansing
Africa calls it..Expropriation
US called it…Reservations-Trail of Tears
Since 1948 Palestinians have called it
Nakba – Wikipedia
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”Removing” a population that has been fighting
since the Balfour Declaration and Sykes-Picot
to keep their land from being taken over by settlers.
Nope…not on board with this-at all!
Perhaps living in the American Southwest gives
me more understanding. 💁♀️🤷♀️
Would you like to live in the rubble of Gaza with your children starving because Hamas steal all the food? What about water and sanitation?
Gaza is destroyed. It has to be rebuilt before anyone can actually LIVE there.
The fact is, Israel gave the Palestinians Gaza and gave them self rule – they even forcibly removed all the people that were already living there. What did the Palestinians do with that? They indoctrinated every child to hate Jews, taught them how to kill them and made them believe that their ultimate destiny was to become a martyr so their family would be given money and heroic status. They used all the aid and materials to build tunnels and torture chambers. They used aid to buy weapons and plot war.
Meanwhile, the world cries for the “refugees” living in Gaza and we must give them more, more, more…. and the rest of the Arab world demands more, more,more… but they do NOTHING to resolve the problems. They won’t even take those Palestinian people into their own lands (which the Palestinians also have a historic right to live within).
So, along comes President Trump and makes an offer to rebuild Gaza and turn it into the mecca that it could have been (had the Palestinians not squandered what they were given). And look at that, suddenly, the Arab world has come up with ideas to FIX IT THEMSELVES.
I don’t care about the historic “ownership” of the land. What I care about is our hard earned tax dollars are CONSTANTLY spent on a group of people who will not, and actually REFUSE, to better themselves and instead constantly make war upon their neighbors.
Enough is enough.
^^ that.
How do you know they refuse to better themselves ? Where is your evidence ?
The gig is up my friend , those of us who have travelled there and seen it first hand know how that propaganda works .
Palestinians built Israel . They had no choice but to work long hours for their occupiers , meanwhile they are denied both citizenship or a Palestinian state . Israel refuses to allow Palestinians to live among them so they are relegated to open air prisons behind walls . They have to go through 5 checkpoints to go work in “ Israhell” , yet you say they refuse to better themselves????
It is obvious they refuse to better themselves because Gaza is a pile of rubble due to their terrorist activities in trying to kill off Israel.
I have been on this earth long enough to see with my own eyes that the Palestinians are a lost cause. I used to feel bad for them… now, I am done with them. I used much the same line of emotional persuasion as you when taking up for them.
Oh, and BS on your claims that the Palestinians built Israel. That is just a lie.
Considering there are many ethnicities/religions already living side by side in Israel, your argument is not a winner.
Why do the Arab states not want the Palestinians?
Could it be that NOBODY WANTS TO HAVE MURDERERS in their midst?
Had they worked to make Gaza into their Utopia, then we would not be chatting now.
You are right. Thank you.
Maybe the fact that we gave them concrete and they built bunkers. We gave them pipes for water and they turned them into rocket casings.
They hate. They kill. They destroy. And contrary to every moral law, you are not required to sit back and let someone murder you. Doing whatever it takes to keep from being murdered is not a crime in anyplace but Leftist fantasy land where all criminals are just misunderstood so you have no right to defend yourself.
At this point their own murderous deeds have led to a situation where there are no good options.
The least bad option left is we take them away from Gaza, rebuild the land properly, and allow the non-raping murder fiends among them to return to Gaza once its rebuilt with basic amenities like running water, electricity and toilets.
Option B is we kill them all because they will not stop trying to kill everyone around them.
I don’t like Option B. So the Least Bad Option is what I’m okay with at this point.
If you want a different option, go over to Gaza and convince Hamas of it.
But you won’t, because you know deep down suggesting anything to Hamas but “Murder the Jews” would see you raped to death and your corpse paraded through the streets because that’s who they’ve chosen to be.
You’re absolutely right (unfortunately). Well said. Thank you.
Israelis built Israel and worked the land with their own hands. Israel was also kind to Palestinians, helped them, and gave them jobs. It was Palestinians who betrayed Israelis, not the other way around. I’ve done my homework on it. I am done.
No, I would not like to live in the destruction that Israel created.
My solution is to move them into Israel and have the Israelis restore Gaza.
I’m sure that will work.
How about if we relocate the Jews to Ukraine ?
Worry not, Jesus will find them when He returns.
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We send over 3 Billion dollars a year
to Israel.
It goes to their hospitals, education,
agriculture, museums and some items
listed on foreign assistance website….
I have NO idea what the money is for!
💥💥Israel has been the highest dollar and
longest running money laundromat…
for decades!
U.S. Foreign Assistance by Country
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I live in the American Southwest, and have little sympathy for their plight; they need to move on.
Get over themselves, and embrace living, instead of a culture of death, perpetrsted by those wjo gain personal power and wealth, by fostering this victim mentality.
Frankly, I am tired of it. The World is tired of it, the Middle East is tired if it, and they better get with the program..
The “leaders” of Hamas live in Qatar…even they don’t want any part of the heap that they’ve helped create and rule over.
So much for not forsaking their “homeland”.
Yes, and somehow those 3 leaders have a net worth of five billion dollars between them. They have now been exiled to Turkey so they can live with the Islamist Erdogan, whose goal is to restore the caliphate with himself as the Caliph.
Bravo
Living in the Midwest here the Indian wars are over we are all assimilated.The melting pot woeks when its allowed to cook.
⭐️⭐️⭐️
“Get over themselves, and embrace living, instead of a culture of death, perpetrsted by those wjo gain personal power and wealth, by fostering this victim mentality.”
While they could “get over themselves” fostering the victim mentality returns a substantially larger profit margin for those in power.
Israel has recently been bombing Lebanon.
Israel has recently participated in the Syria
takeover……
That is just the most recent……
And what country wants to bomb Iran?
And who is the one causing problems ?
yeah….who is the one claiming victim?
🤦♀️ 🤦♀️ 🤦♀️ 😬 😬
There was not much coverage of the “Trail of Truth” horseback pilgrimage to DC recently. I only came across the news on X. Did you read about this?
https://unicornriot.ninja/2024/muwekma-ohlone-tribe-rides-across-the-nation-for-federal-recognition-in-trail-of-truth/
The DC police threatened to take the Ohlone ponies despite prior agreements
In 1948, Gaza was in Egypt. The West Bank was in Jordan. There was no mention of ‘Palestinians’ until 1967.
Look up British Mandate for Palestine . Please do your research properly on this Issue .
Let us remember, the responsible parties for this devastation are Hamas and Iran.
Gaza only exists as an international public housing project. In 1948 the population was 80 K, today it exceeds 2 million. If this is genocide, somebody is not very good at it. Gaza is sitting of prime real estate, what have they done with it?
The international community has sent billions of dollars in aid to the Gaza Strip to provide relief to the more than 2 million Palestinians living there.[8] From 2014 to 2020, U.N. agencies spent nearly $4.5 billion in Gaza, including $600 million in 2020 alone.[8] According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, aid to Palestinians totaled over $40 billion between 1994 and 2020.[9][10] (wiki)
Were these above mentioned organizations related to or received funding from USAID…via the UN? Who has that kind of money?
Asking for a friend…
And most of the ‘aid’ went into concrete, water pipes went into their making missiles, etc., for the terror tunnels criss-crossing under Gaza.
Didn’t USAID give them a grant to build a cement plant in Gaza?
And how much of OUR tax dollars paid for the Jewish state ??
Where did you get your numbers again . I’m seeing close to one million Palestinians were forcibly removed in 1948 .
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-nakba-gaza-strip-trump-a36215ea11cdbae42680ce9ed9febc14
A lot. You can measure return on the investment. You can argue Israel is a bad investment, But when comparing the two investments side by side there are disparate results.
Since 1948 We have given Israel 318 Billion of out tax dollars worth in aid. More than any country in the world.
Have we got our money’s worth ?
https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/oct/18/us-aid-to-israel-what-to-know/
He doesn’t want to take Palestinian refugees out of fear of being attacked by terrorists?
Fear of giving up on the Palestinians because they feel Gaza is their land?
They also feel the land Israel now occupies is their land too and it was stolen?
You are the one spewing propaganda.
Unfortunately, Hamas ethnic cleansed the Palestinians from Gaza.
It occurred to me that Trump’s offer to “rebuild” Gaza isn’t about a “big, beautiful, building” (yes, I know, I’m a little slow). It is a strategic location that allows us to provide better defense to Israel and kick Hamas out of that region. In which case, I’m for it.
It’s very depressing to me to read through the comments and realize that many people would leave Israel hung out to dry. Do me a favor, pull up a map of the region, look at the tiny country of Israel, then note that it is surrounded by countries full of people who wish the Jews dead.
As a Christian nation (yes, we are), it is our duty to protect Israel. Don’t think America thrived and became rich because we are just that good. Nope. It was all blessings from the Almighty God for protecting His chosen people. If we turn against Israel or abandon her, we will be punished too. Just sayin’.
maybe, or maybe not.
Trump honors the SON OF GOD and our country was founded on GOD (and God’s SON). Israel does NOT honor the SON OF GOD and the TRUE ONE GOD, … it honors the lesser god of Jehovah, the god of the nation of israel.
Exactly. Genesis 12:3. Bless Israel and be blessed. Curse Israel and be cursed.
You’re right, I’m a Christian, Jesus is my savior just like all of you who profess that on these pages, so let’s kill all those Palestinians. Just like Dutch posted earlier today on the main thread, wipe them off the map. Yep that’s what Jesus would do.
WTF?
It is also the prime location to route an alternative to the Suez canal (which is no longer big enough to handle the largest container ships) that would run entirely through Israel and be worth billions a year in transit fees alone.
Its basically a potential Panama Canal 2.0 project for boosting global trade and if President Trump is serious, then we’d be the ones owning that canal.
YOU Read The History, eh ?
https://www.newarab.com/news/what-israels-ben-gurion-canal-plan-and-why-gaza-matters
So the Israelis are chosen but Christians are not? That doesn’t sound odd to you?
Let’s pray for peace.
Yes.
There is evidence that some regular Palestinian citizens participated in the Oct. 7th attack on Israel. I’ve seen video of a Palestinian citizen spouting hatred of the Jews. Not all Palestinians are the same, but they are taught as children to hate the Jews. My source is Amir Tsarfati. However, there are some of them who fled because they didn’t agree with what was being taught. I don’t know how much PDJT actually knows about them and their history. There is good reason that Jordan didn’t want them in the country.
I keep hoping that this is just a Trump “the art of the deal” in action. Trying to provoke the countries of the Middle East to step up to solve the problem with a more permanent solution than the failed situation that currently exists.
“The Art of the Deal” in action was near the end of Trump’s previous administration with the signing of the Abraham Accords. It didn’t bring peace to the entire middle east but it was a major breakthrough in getting Arab nations to recognize, and start to do trade with Israel. Had Trump stayed in office after those accords were signed the middle east would look much more peaceful than it does today. As has been said many times; With two nations of differing opinions one of two things will happen, either economic trade will cross their borders or soldiers will. Trump prefers the economic option. As evident in the Abraham Accords, others share in his view.
The only permanent solution is for Israel to recognize the rights of the Palestinan people .
That boat is gone.
No “palestinian” people.
No “palestinian” state.
No “palestinian” rights.
Allahu Snackbar!
Nevermind the right of Israel to exist? Or maybe you believe only the Palestinians have rights but not the Israelis? Sorry but you’re dead wrong if you believe the Palestinian people have rights but not the Israeli people. One great solution would be for Palestinians to stop killing, maiming, and terrorizing. They also need to stop being buddies with Hamas.
King”…..Where’s his crown and flowing robes??
I guess Hamas thinks Trump won’t bomb them as long as they still have hostages. Human shields dead or alive.
I fear they are mistaken.
PDJT had ANOTHER Oval office press conference, with Elon and “X” and it was fascinating, as he pretty much yielded the stage to Elon.
The overall thrust; how can it be controversial to expect that checks say what they are FOR?
HOW can anyone rightly oppose ending waste, fraud and abuse,..and after all that elon has found, how can anyone object to PDJT firing the I.G.’s,who are SUPPOSED to investigate Waste, Fraud and abuse, and obviously weren’t doing their job?
sounds good to me, Dutchman.
USAID sent 59 million to NYC to take care of illegal aliens after the President ordered them to stop disbursing money . 19 million to the luxury hotels they live in. The rest was listed as food and security. In other words 40 million was pocketed by some people.
Only a slight correction.
It was FEMA who sent the $59 million, not USAID.
Doesn’t sound good.
1. What will he do Saturday, drop a bunker buster and kill thousands more, including hostages?
2. So now we’ll spend a few hundred Billion rebuilding Gaza?
3. When there is no stability in place.
Is this what Mrs. Adelson wants?
No one wants the Palestinians. Weird how many people protest on the behalf of a people no one wants.
Yeah, what happened to releasing the hostages? What? A total of three were released?
Jordan doesn’t need any more Palestinians, Jordan is like 25% Palestinians and they do nothing but raise the usual terrorism
The 2000 children will of course come with 2 parents a piece, so
6,000 right there
Sick from what?
“ As expected, both President Trump and King Abdullah noted they await the plan from Egyptian President Fattah al-Sisi who has been tasked with taking the lead on developing a peaceful solution and broader long-term plan for regional stability.”
This doesn’t make sense to me: why would Al-Sisi “be tasked with taking the lead on developing a peaceful solution and broader long-term plan for regional stability.” Tasking Egypt or any arab nation would not be far off from tasking the Palestinians or Hamas.
Diplomat in Chief!
They apparently have Kirsten Welker clones in the middle east, too.
Yes. And sadly, indicative not only of a profound lack of knowledge – but of a base level of consciousness.
The signal to noise ration is low in here today
“Christian heresy” would be denying Jesus is the Christ, denying he is the son of God born to a Virgin, denying he is Risen. Denying his life death and resurrection is payment once and for all for the sins of the world. Denying he is returning, not as a lamb but as a Lion, a King and a Man of War for Judgement on this world. That would be heresy.
Believing that God has a future plan for Israel according to his time and purpose is not heresy.
God has a plan for Israel. That plan involves the unbearable agony of the Tribulation due to Israel’s unbelief.
No thanks…
Your “history” is lacking in accuracy and self serving, for one you conveniently forgot the Hebron massacre of Jews in 1920’s.
Folks like you love to throw around smears of ethnic cleansing, racism, genocide. hoping it will stick. You did the same with PDJT
You also forgot that almost 900, 000 Jews were literally ethically cleansed from arab lands over the last century with no compensation. Perhaps it would be best to complete and legitimize a population swap which so far only the Jews have completed by having the Arab refugees go and live in the homes of the Jews driven from Arab lands. Where are the Jews of Gaza, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi, Yemen, etc
History didn’t start in 1948.
Yes, when a population keeps attacking and killing others they lose their right to peace, life, sovereignty and land. When someone commits crimes they are incarcerated, they lose their basic rights.
Egypt has reportedly “closed the door” to any further discussions with the United States regarding the displacement of Palestinians from the Gaza Strip; with Egyptian Officials having presented several Plans for rebuilding Gaza without any kind of displacement, at least one of these Plans having been delivered to the Trump Administration. Cairo is said to be “outraged” by Statements from both Israel and the U.S. calling for the totally removal of the Palestinian Population from Gaza, sending a Message to Washington, demanding clarification on recent Comments made by U.S. President Trump, stating that Sanctions could be imposed against Egypt if they refuse to accept Palestinian Refugees.
https://nitter.poast.org/sentdefender/status/1889396121585308015#m
Early reports indicate that Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi may postpone his planned trip to the U.S. Capital due to the impasse over U.S. President Donald J. Trump’s proposition to relocate the population of the Gaza Strip while reconstruction occurs. As reported earlier, the leaders of Jordan and Egypt have voiced their reticence to take on such a role as part of the U.S. president’s reconstruction plan for the Gaza Strip
OPEN THE RAFAH CROSSING AND LET THE SCUM SWARM INTO EGYPT
SEE WHAT THE EGYPTIANS DO THEN.
THEIR TANKS ARE MASSED JUST OUTSIDE THE BORDER
King Abdullah II of Jordan, while meeting today at the White House with U.S. President Donald J. Trump, once again politely rejects the plan to relocate upwards of a Million Palestinians from the Gaza Strip to Jordan, but states that Jordan will accept and care for 2,000 Sick and Cancer-Stricken Children living in Gaza.
https://nitter.poast.org/sentdefender/status/1889377742350606484#m
Gosh you keep forgetting the Jews first ethnically cleansed from the Arab perpetrators lands in the same conflict. You forget that the Arab refugees who left did so because the Arab attacking nations promised them to drive out the Jews from Israel and give them the Jews homes and properties. Note that the arabs who remained are citizens of Israel by what happened to the Jews driven from Arab lands.
You are just a taqiyya troll spreading hamas propaganda.
No alcohol necessary, the Arabs have no ethnic or racial relation to the extinct ancient phillistines whose name and identity they hijacked.
Ya know, every time over last several years I heard the King speak I’ve been extremely impressed with his demeanor, comportment , reasonableness concerning subject at hand, dare I say prudence (at least from his perspective) and overall affability. Granted, Jordan is likely a recipient of large amounts of U.S. aid and his is a vested interest BUT, that said , President Trump
and he have a great rapport and genuine friendship and that speaks volumes!
Meant to be a reply to the above. Disregard.
President Trump is the only one offering an alternative to genocide, such is the corner Hamas has painted the Palestinian people into.
Seriously, what is your alternative? Give Hamas free reign to murder all the Israelis? If the Israelis resist then shoot them?
All the good options are gone. Hamas saw to that by murdering people again and again and again.
The least bad option left is relocation until we can rebuild the territory. The only option left is we kill every last Palestinian because they won’t stop trying to kill everyone around them.
We’ve tried all your stupid ideas again and again and again and all that’s happened is more people die horribly.
Appears to be a lot of cleanup down the aisles!
Thank you, to the Admins, you rock! <3
😘 (Appreciate people’s patience. Am in recovery mode from a bad case of seasonal flu!)
Be well soon!
I’m staying out of this one…
IKR?! 😬
Suffice it to say… since it is impossible that PDJT could be unaprised of the well established fact that it is Israel who have perpetually violated all ceasefire/hostage release conditions – and NOT Hamas – we can only trust that he has some covert reasoning behind ‘barking up the wrong tree’ on this.